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2001. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:19:12 -0000

Hi Shelley :-) I know a few people who would want to try to beat the new record. And that fairly soon. But i don't wanna give anything away and get myself into trouble ;-) Im sure all u guys feel a bit tired now, but considering Brent stopped 90 minutes before the end of time he has potential to improve :-) I guess his 12 hr record will stand for a while though. Mighty impressive :-) Cheers! -Per PS! Congratz Brentmorganmaster ;-) :D > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a man > with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? > > Rune > > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this > again. > > Shelley >
2002. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:39:08 -0800

I think people out there underestimate the fatigue that plays into this record. I think it would be fair to ask people to break this record unofficially first before they even think about taking it to another level. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 19, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Per Kristen Fredlund wrote: > Hi Shelley :-) > > I know a few people who would want to try to beat the new record. > And that fairly soon. But i don't wanna give anything away and get > myself into trouble ;-) > > Im sure all u guys feel a bit tired now, but considering Brent > stopped 90 minutes before the end of time he has potential to > improve :-) I guess his 12 hr record will stand for a while though. > Mighty impressive :-) > > Cheers! > > -Per > > PS! Congratz Brentmorganmaster ;-) :D > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell > <no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: >> >>> On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a > man >> with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? >>> Rune >> >> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record >> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all > this >> again. >> >> Shelley >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2003. Stackmat
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:02:25 -0000

If i am going to buy a stackmat should i buy gen 1 or 2? Thanks
2004. Re: [Speed cubing group] Stackmat
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:08:10 -0800

generation 2. -Chris On 2/19/06, bballkid2076 <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > If i am going to buy a stackmat should i buy gen 1 or 2? Thanks > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2005. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:45:50 +0100

Yes, I forgot that "7"! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 Not quite... e=2.718281828...that's Feb 7th at 6:28 PM (18:28) Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > And e day=Feb 18th? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:08 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > > > > Pi day = March 14th, 3/14 is how Americans would usually write it, > > although I believe that some european countries do dates dd/mm instead > > of mm/dd . > > > > http://www.mathwithmrherte.com/pi_day.htm > > > > And interestingly enough, the Exploratorium, home to many a cube > > competition seems to have celebrated pi day in the past: > > > > http://www.exploratorium.edu/pi/ > > > > -Daniel > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Parth Upadhyay" > > <parth.upadhyay@> wrote: > > > > > > sorry to ask, but whats pi day? > > > Pi is awesome!! > > > -parth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2006. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:57:19 +0100

>From your answer it´s clear that a new attemt must be held under the jurisdiction of Caltech? ----- Original Message ----- From: "aznseashell" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: > On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a man with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? > Rune The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this again. Shelley Yahoo! Groups Links
2007. Re: [Speed cubing group] Stackmat
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 02:59:56 -0800

Well, I don't think you have a choice...? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 19, 2006, at 10:08 PM, Chris Hunt wrote: > generation 2. > > -Chris > > On 2/19/06, bballkid2076 <bballkid2076@...> wrote: >> >> If i am going to buy a stackmat should i buy gen 1 or 2? Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2008. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:00:57 -0800

No, that's not true. The attempt needs to be held under the jurisdiction of the WCA so if you're in Europe, you might want to start being really really nice to Ron and Gilles, because you're going to need to get them to donate 24 hours of their time. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > >From your answer it´s clear that a new attemt must be held under the > jurisdiction of Caltech? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "aznseashell" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:30 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: > >> On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a man > with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? >> Rune > > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this > again. > > Shelley > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2009. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:18:31 -0000

> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this > again. > > Shelley > > Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a motivation to try this too sometime... :p
2010. Re: follow-up cross question
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:41:14 -0000

Hi Macky! I mostly solve with the cross on bottom, but in 25% of the cases I solve it on top becaause I can perform it much faster, and I don't loose much time while orienting the cube because I get to see more cubies while orienting it. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > What I wrote was about the rest of the solve, not the cross itself. > > Do most people solve the cross on bottom from the start now? I > remember it being pretty rare in 2002-3. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Yeah, most people keep it on the D face, AKA "D-Cross." That way, you > > don't have to flip the cube over and you can go straight to F2L etc. > > not necessarily better.. depends on your own preference: e.g. Jean > > Pons solves it on top. > > > > From Macky's site: > > > > Q5: > > Will it really make a difference if I put the cross on the bottom / > > left instead of on the top? > > I don't feel like throwing away the eight algorithms I memorized. :( > > A5: > > I use to do F2L with cross on U-face, but switched to D-face after > > getting sub-35. And trust me, it really makes a big difference, as I > > got a sub-30 average within a week after making that change. > > > > Here are a the two big advantages of D-cross F2L in speedcubing: > > 1. You use a lot of U and R moves, which allows you to execute algs > > quickly using FSC's(Finger Short Cuts). For example, one alg in > > U-cross F2L is FDF', but using D-cross F2L, it can be done as RUR' in > > about 0.3 second. ( ! ) Dan Knight's Speedcubing Page has some good > > FSC videos. See how Dan turns the cube using just one finger? That's > > what you will want to be doing if you want to average sub-20. > > > > 2. By using D-cross F2L, you can look for the second corner-edge pair > > while you're doing the first, third when doing the second and so on, > > so that you can turn the whole F2L non-stop. It takes a lot of > > practice to be able to do this, and I think it's not too much to say > > that this non-stop F2L is what separates sub-20 cubers from the rest. > > Oh, and yeah, try turning the algs from www.speedcubing.com and then > > you can learn the ones that you like. > > > > One more thing: GO SLOWLY ON F2L! This is the best advice anyone can > > give you. > > If you go too fast, you won't be able to see the next corner-edge > > pair, so you'll have to > > stop and search for the next pair, which is definitely not a good > > thing in speedcubing. > > > > Darren > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" > > <pawsnwhiskers@> wrote: > > > > > > Greetings. > > > > > > When solving the cube using a cross method, what is the typical > > > orientation of the cross face (white for instance)? Do most people > > > hold the cube with white on the D face or solve it on the upper face > > > then flip over? Thanks. > > > > > > Roger Wood > > > > > >
2011. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:47:43 -0000

I wanted to ask the french guys to try to beat the record, but after all, I'd better not say it too loud :-) There's something I'd like to know from Brent (by the way, no need to congratulate you on your record, it's just incredible). I'd like to know if such a marathon helps in improving some skills. - Consistency. - Dexterity. - Etc. Or, on the opposite, is it a way to develop bad habits, because when you get tired, you have to rely on robust and easy recognition techniques that may not be as effective? You'll tell us in a few weeks. Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > No, that's not true. The attempt needs to be held under the > jurisdiction of the WCA so if you're in Europe, you might want to start > being really really nice to Ron and Gilles, because you're going to > need to get them to donate 24 hours of their time. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > From your answer it´s clear that a new attemt must be held under the > > jurisdiction of Caltech? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "aznseashell" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:30 AM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > >> On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a man > > with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? > >> Rune > > > > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this > > again. > > > > Shelley > > > >
2012. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 04:28:12 -0800

Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this on a whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew to assemble this record together. We all have school work, and everyone took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make this happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the event. It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try just because you feel like it. Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it yourself unofficially in your own home. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > >> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record >> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all > this >> again. >> >> Shelley >> >> > > > Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a > motivation to try this too sometime... :p > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2013. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:11:21 -0000

Ok.. But what is a few hours, compared to all the time people like us put into cubing? I agree that it's inconsiderate for someone to break this record next week, but in a few years...? I mean, records are there to be broken. Cubers do it all the time. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this on a > whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew to > assemble this record together. We all have school work, and everyone > took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make this > happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the event. > It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try just > because you feel like it. > > Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it > yourself unofficially in your own home. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > > > > >> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > >> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all > > this > >> again. > >> > >> Shelley > >> > >> > > > > > > Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a > > motivation to try this too sometime... :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2014. Re: I cant seem to even get close to solving the 3x3 cube even with the solution
From: "ashvinz11" <ashvinz11@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:22:38 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "ashvinz11" <ashvinz11@...> wrote: > > I have the 25th anniversary 3x3 cube. I have used several solution > tips and things (for example, the petrus method). I just can't seem to > get close. the only time i figured it out was wiht a solver, so i > didnt really figure it out. Can anyone help? also, what are algorithms > or whatever? Thanks in advance! > Bump
2015. Re: I cant seem to even get close to solving the 3x3 cube even with the solution
From: "ashvinz11" <ashvinz11@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:23:46 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Greetings, > > I'm a new solver myself, but work on the cross first. Then work on > inserting corners and edges to solve the first 2 layers (F2L). > Cubestation.co.uk is a good site to start on. On the left side of > the webpage, there is a link for a beginner solution. > > Ciao. > > Roger Wood > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "ashvinz11" > <ashvinz11@> wrote: > > > > I have the 25th anniversary 3x3 cube. I have used several solution > > tips and things (for example, the petrus method). I just can't > seem to > > get close. the only time i figured it out was wiht a solver, so i > > didnt really figure it out. Can anyone help? also, what are > algorithms > > or whatever? Thanks in advance! > > > THANKS! I havent seen that site yet so i'll check it out... Thanks again.
2016. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:51:41 +0100

I think you have missed this post, Joël. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! No, that's not true. The attempt needs to be held under the jurisdiction of the WCA so if you're in Europe, you might want to start being really really nice to Ron and Gilles, because you're going to need to get them to donate 24 hours of their time. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > From your answer it´s clear that a new attemt must be held under the > jurisdiction of Caltech? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "aznseashell" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:30 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: > >> On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a man > with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? >> Rune > > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this > again. > > Shelley > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2017. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:04:59 +0100

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! Gotta get a bit faster before that, though. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2018. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:09:24 -0000

No... You're wrong about that. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I think you have missed this post, Joël. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > No, that's not true. The attempt needs to be held under the > jurisdiction of the WCA so if you're in Europe, you might want to start > being really really nice to Ron and Gilles, because you're going to > need to get them to donate 24 hours of their time. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 12:57 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > From your answer it´s clear that a new attemt must be held under the > > jurisdiction of Caltech? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "aznseashell" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 12:30 AM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > >> On the other hand the road now lies open to a new record for a man > > with stamina and motivation. Maybe mr Pochmann will be the next? > >> Rune > > > > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all this > > again. > > > > Shelley > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2019. Re: I cant seem to even get close to solving the 3x3 cube even with the solutions
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:15:07 -0000

Hi, I think for beginners, the Petrus method is a bit complicated... I have a beginners method available on my site, and frequently get e- mails from ppl who say the explanation is quite good (not want to brag about it, but it's true). You might want to try it: www.solvethecube.co.uk. E-mail me if you get stuck somewhere... Good luck! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "ashvinz11" <ashvinz11@...> wrote: > > I have the 25th anniversary 3x3 cube. I have used several solution > tips and things (for example, the petrus method). I just can't seem to > get close. the only time i figured it out was wiht a solver, so i > didnt really figure it out. Can anyone help? also, what are algorithms > or whatever? Thanks in advance! >
2020. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:22:17 +0100

That´s nonsense. You don´t have to get faster! Have you checked which average needed to make 3142 cubes in 24x60x60s? Stamina! Stamina! And remember; no stayer will open with the speed of a sprinter. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:39 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > . Gotta get a bit faster before that, though. >> > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2021. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:35:35 -0000

I agree. This is like saying that you worked for a couple of years for the 3x3x3 speed world record, so please don't anyone else try and beat it for a few months/whatever. If people can solve more than 3141 in 24 hours, let them, they shouldn't be frowned upon because they put in more effort to do more cubes. I'm not saying you didn't put any effort in, I think it's a great acheivment, I just don't think people should be banned for a few years from attempting it just because you already put in a lot of effort into the old one. I say banned because it'd be pretty hard to attempt to beat the record if Tyson disagrees with it. I'm sure Jess wouldn't have minded someone beating his record a few months later, it doesn't detract anything from his acheivment. Great effort brent & caltech. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Ok.. But what is a few hours, compared to all the time people like > us put into cubing? > > I agree that it's inconsiderate for someone to break this record > next week, but in a few years...? I mean, records are there to be > broken. Cubers do it all the time. > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this > on a > > whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew > to > > assemble this record together. We all have school work, and > everyone > > took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make > this > > happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the > event. > > It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try > just > > because you feel like it. > > > > Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it > > yourself unofficially in your own home. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > > > > > > > >> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > > >> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do > all > > > this > > >> again. > > >> > > >> Shelley > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a > > > motivation to try this too sometime... :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2022. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:09:03 -0800

I never said "a few years" and I never said banned so please don't start putting words in my mouth. If you're interested in doing this record yourself, first attempt it at home and show us you clearly have a legitimate shot at breaking the record. Then, find someone willing to run the record. You might want to even consider financially compensating them for their time. It is certainly not a pleasant event for us to run. You'll probably have to find someone in Europe to do it for you. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 7:35 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > I agree. This is like saying that you worked for a couple of years for > the 3x3x3 speed world record, so please don't anyone else try and beat > it for a few months/whatever. > > If people can solve more than 3141 in 24 hours, let them, they > shouldn't be frowned upon because they put in more effort to do more > cubes. > > I'm not saying you didn't put any effort in, I think it's a great > acheivment, I just don't think people should be banned for a few years > from attempting it just because you already put in a lot of effort > into the old one. > > I say banned because it'd be pretty hard to attempt to beat the record > if Tyson disagrees with it. > > I'm sure Jess wouldn't have minded someone beating his record a few > months later, it doesn't detract anything from his acheivment. > > Great effort brent & caltech. > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@...> wrote: >> >> Ok.. But what is a few hours, compared to all the time people like >> us put into cubing? >> >> I agree that it's inconsiderate for someone to break this record >> next week, but in a few years...? I mean, records are there to be >> broken. Cubers do it all the time. >> >> - Joël. >> >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> >> wrote: >>> >>> Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this >> on a >>> whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew >> to >>> assemble this record together. We all have school work, and >> everyone >>> took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make >> this >>> happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the >> event. >>> It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try >> just >>> because you feel like it. >>> >>> Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it >>> yourself unofficially in your own home. >>> >>> Tyson Mao >>> Astrophysics '06 >>> California Institute of Technology >>> >>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record >>>>> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do >> all >>>> this >>>>> again. >>>>> >>>>> Shelley >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a >>>> motivation to try this too sometime... :p >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2023. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:26:36 -0800

Seriously, why are people claiming that I say all these things? If you review the posts, you'll see that I requested that someone should be very serious about breaking this record. One way of proving to us that you're actually serious is to break the record yourself unofficially at home. I feel this is a reasonable request given the number of hours it requires a team of people to ratify the record. In the United States, there are libel laws which prevent people from making up false statements about other people. I never said this record was "banned" nor did I say the record would never be attempted again NOR did I say that we wanted to wait a few years. And it's not just a "few hours" of our time, it's days. An event like this disrupts our lives. We take out large portions of our day, rotate off, and then we end up having to sleep. It's disruptive, we lose at least a day of not being able to do homework, and everyone feels miserable afterwards. Furthermore, you make it sound like we don't do any acts of selflessness for the cubing community. It seems to be that you've forgotten that we actually run competitions and put a lot of effort into those ourselves. See, I guess I forgot that I'm obligated to do those types of things. They have it in my contract, because a cuber spends years cubing, then I have to take my time to fuel their obsession. My friends and myself put a lot of effort into running competitions. We've donated well more than our share of time to the cubing community. What's a few hours to you? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 5:11 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > Ok.. But what is a few hours, compared to all the time people like > us put into cubing? > > I agree that it's inconsiderate for someone to break this record > next week, but in a few years...? I mean, records are there to be > broken. Cubers do it all the time. > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this > on a >> whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew > to >> assemble this record together. We all have school work, and > everyone >> took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make > this >> happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the > event. >> It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try > just >> because you feel like it. >> >> Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it >> yourself unofficially in your own home. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: >> >>> >>>> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record >>>> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do > all >>> this >>>> again. >>>> >>>> Shelley >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a >>> motivation to try this too sometime... :p >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2024. 24-hour policies
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:47:48 -0800

These are in no way final, but this is what the Caltech Cube Club will expect from you if you want to break the record. First of all, we don't plan on running another event like this again until the summer. We simply don't have time, and I think I can safely say, unless you go to a tech school in India, we have more homework than you. Our schedule is booked until the summer. If you are interested in breaking this event, you'll have to wait until June. We are currently busy working on a competition for March 11, March 27, and April 22, as well as US Nationals. You must provide 10 cubes. These cubes must all be approved by the WCA. You might want to have more just in case some break. Yeah, I personally don't have 10 speed cubes. Find some friends and borrow some. We need 10 cubes because it assists in the counting. Actually wait... you're going to need to provide 12 cubes in case one breaks so we have 10 cubes in the cycle. We had about 15 cubes available for Brent's record. You will provide some staff. Our club will provide two staff positions. The cube scramble checker, and the counter. You must find people that can read notation and scramble a cube relatively quickly, and furthermore, you've got to get them to agree to scramble for 24 hours, or you're going to need two people to switch off, or three people, etc. Basically, you provide the scramblers. That's about it. If someone is interested in an attempt to break this record, contact me and we'll work it out. That's how Brent and I coordinated. We've been talking to each other back and forth for several months and we were able to work something out. If you want to do this, shoot me an e-mail. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2025. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:09:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > True, though... I think most things "pi" related don't usually round... > gosh, what geeks are we debating the rounding of pi! With "pi" day, > it's generally on March 14, at 1:59 PM, That's more like "pi" minute. Pi day is just March 14th (or maybe 1st May in the UK ... ). >and well, I guess you could > carry it out for more decimal places, and in this case as well, > rounding makes no sense. > > We actually had Brent do the F2L on the cube. Given it's a 7 step > situation, it comes out to about .59... I think? Eh... I'm not sure. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 19, 2006, at 2:56 AM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I think Brent Morgan is going to stop after 3141 cubes. He'll > >> probably > >> solve half a cube after that, but exhaustion is definitely setting in. > >> Tune into the webcast to see the finale! > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > > > > I think that guess came a bit late in the day! > > I'm kind of curious, given the subject, why not go for 3142. Rounding > > off to 3 decimal > > places and multippying by 1000 would give 3142. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2026. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:08:39 -0000

No, I was only being half serious. You would feel this way too the day after a 24 hour cube marathon. Besides, Brent did set the bar pretty high. If you want to try it, do so unofficially first. The record may look easy until you've personally experienced the fatigue that sets in after 12 hours of virtually nonstop cubing. Shelley --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > > > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all > this > > again. > > > > Shelley > > > > > > > Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a > motivation to try this too sometime... :p >
2027. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:15:44 -0000

First of all, I never said you said them. Someone else said the few years thing and you assumed we were talking about you. This isn't a closed conversation. I never said we were banned. I was exagerating because all of a sudden after brent set his record there was a big, unprovoked "DON'T TRY AND BEAT IT PLZ!!" and since you'd be mad at it being tryed again soon, there would effectivly be no point in doing it if all you got was a bad reaction. I never said anything about doing this myself, either now you're putting words in _my_ mouth. Apparently we're forgotten everything you've done for the community because I disagreed with people not doing this for a few years. You appear to be making assumptions. Of course I havn't and I congratulated you last post because I said you took a great effort to get it all done. I'm glad you've done everything for us, but please don't rant at me because I disagree with someone having to wait a few years if they wish to try this again. They should be allowed when they want. Also, I wasn't even talking to you initially, I think you kind of dove into the conversation after the initial backlash. Also see: > The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do all > this > again. > > Shelley I hope you understand my actions now :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Seriously, why are people claiming that I say all these things? If you > review the posts, you'll see that I requested that someone should be > very serious about breaking this record. One way of proving to us that > you're actually serious is to break the record yourself unofficially at > home. I feel this is a reasonable request given the number of hours it > requires a team of people to ratify the record. In the United States, > there are libel laws which prevent people from making up false > statements about other people. I never said this record was "banned" > nor did I say the record would never be attempted again NOR did I say > that we wanted to wait a few years. > > And it's not just a "few hours" of our time, it's days. An event like > this disrupts our lives. We take out large portions of our day, rotate > off, and then we end up having to sleep. It's disruptive, we lose at > least a day of not being able to do homework, and everyone feels > miserable afterwards. Furthermore, you make it sound like we don't do > any acts of selflessness for the cubing community. It seems to be that > you've forgotten that we actually run competitions and put a lot of > effort into those ourselves. See, I guess I forgot that I'm obligated > to do those types of things. They have it in my contract, because a > cuber spends years cubing, then I have to take my time to fuel their > obsession. > > My friends and myself put a lot of effort into running competitions. > We've donated well more than our share of time to the cubing community. > What's a few hours to you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 5:11 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > > > Ok.. But what is a few hours, compared to all the time people like > > us put into cubing? > > > > I agree that it's inconsiderate for someone to break this record > > next week, but in a few years...? I mean, records are there to be > > broken. Cubers do it all the time. > > > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this > > on a > >> whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew > > to > >> assemble this record together. We all have school work, and > > everyone > >> took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make > > this > >> happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the > > event. > >> It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try > > just > >> because you feel like it. > >> > >> Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it > >> yourself unofficially in your own home. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > >>>> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do > > all > >>> this > >>>> again. > >>>> > >>>> Shelley > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a > >>> motivation to try this too sometime... :p > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2028. [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:20:02 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > > I consider myself a bit of a geek but I never realised my birthday is pi > day. Not even close to a geek then. When I was running up to the last couple of weeks I had a counter running down to my 1 billionth birth second. : ) I'd accounted for the leap seconds etc. but I was only able to nail the exact time down to +/- 60 seconds. [Time of birth is only recorded to the minute. : ( ] I took a lunch break so I could celebrate. Also last time I was in NY I arranged to see a friend for my 1/3 century. (Although this was just 33 years + 4 months rather than exactly 100/3 years. I was in the UK at the erxact time, which was the previous day.) And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. Unless you are in the original sideshow sense! >Problem is that outside of this community I don't know anyone who > would find this the least bit interesting. Well I'll just have to be > satisfied with my own sense of happiness on this one. > > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 2:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > > > > True, though... I think most things "pi" related don't usually round... > > gosh, what geeks are we debating the rounding of pi! With "pi" day, > > it's generally on March 14, at 1:59 PM, and well, I guess you could > > carry it out for more decimal places, and in this case as well, > > rounding makes no sense. > > > > We actually had Brent do the F2L on the cube. Given it's a 7 step > > situation, it comes out to about .59... I think? Eh... I'm not sure. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 19, 2006, at 2:56 AM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I think Brent Morgan is going to stop after 3141 cubes. He'll > >>> probably > >>> solve half a cube after that, but exhaustion is definitely setting in. > >>> Tune into the webcast to see the finale! > >>> > >>> Tyson Mao > >>> Astrophysics '06 > >>> California Institute of Technology > >>> > >> > >> I think that guess came a bit late in the day! > >> I'm kind of curious, given the subject, why not go for 3142. Rounding > >> off to 3 decimal > >> places and multippying by 1000 would give 3142. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2029. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:22:15 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > Nah. > > Feb 7th at 1 o'clock. That would be e hour rather than e day. You could have Feb 7th or 27th Jan for e day. > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> > > wrote: > > > > > > And e day=Feb 18th? > > > > Probably more like 27th January. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@> > > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:08 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > > > > > > > > > > Pi day = March 14th, 3/14 is how Americans would usually write it, > > > > although I believe that some european countries do dates dd/mm > instead > > > > of mm/dd . > > > > > > > > http://www.mathwithmrherte.com/pi_day.htm > > > > > > > > And interestingly enough, the Exploratorium, home to many a cube > > > > competition seems to have celebrated pi day in the past: > > > > > > > > http://www.exploratorium.edu/pi/ > > > > > > > > -Daniel > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Parth Upadhyay" > > > > <parth.upadhyay@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sorry to ask, but whats pi day? > > > > > Pi is awesome!! > > > > > -parth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2030. [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:24:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > Not quite... > e=2.718281828...that's Feb 7th at 6:28 PM (18:28) > That's e minute not e day. > Tim > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > And e day=Feb 18th? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:08 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > > > > > > > Pi day = March 14th, 3/14 is how Americans would usually write > it, > > > although I believe that some european countries do dates dd/mm > instead > > > of mm/dd . > > > > > > http://www.mathwithmrherte.com/pi_day.htm > > > > > > And interestingly enough, the Exploratorium, home to many a cube > > > competition seems to have celebrated pi day in the past: > > > > > > http://www.exploratorium.edu/pi/ > > > > > > -Daniel > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Parth Upadhyay" > > > <parth.upadhyay@> wrote: > > > > > > > > sorry to ask, but whats pi day? > > > > Pi is awesome!! > > > > -parth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2031. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:40:18 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > That's more like "pi" minute. Pi day is just March 14th 22nd July (22/7 in the UK) is close enough for me. Mike
2032. Re: follow-up cross question
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:42:35 -0000

Hmm? But I updated the page a few days ago, and now it says this: "Will it really make a difference if I put the cross on the bottom / left instead of on the top? I don't feel like throwing away the eight algorithms I memorized. :( Yes, it does make a huge difference. I use to do F2L with cross on U-face, but switched to D-face after getting sub-35. I got a sub-30 average within a week after making switching to cross on bottom. I would recommend doing every step of the method with the first layer on bottom. These are the two advantages of placing the cross on bottom: # It lets you use U and R turns, which allows you to execute algs quickly using finger tricks. # It gives you a much better view of what you're solving and lets you look ahead." I think your browser didn't reload the updated page. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Oops, I guess I didn't read carefully enough ^^; I just googled > D-Cross and found that.. cause some of your pages are gone.. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > What I wrote was about the rest of the solve, not the cross itself. > > > > Do most people solve the cross on bottom from the start now? I > > remember it being pretty rare in 2002-3. > > > > Macky > >
2033. Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:46:14 -0000

Very nice description of the requirements needed to set a new 24-hour cubing record, but I just disagree with you one point: > I think I can safely say, unless you go to a tech school in India, > we have more homework than you. I am not really disagreeing but I'm eager to know how you make that conclusion? Under which assumptions? Is it really that hard? Sven
2034. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:48:32 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > That's more like "pi" minute. Pi day is just March 14th > > 22nd July (22/7 in the UK) is close enough for me. > > Mike > Yes, that's right. Must have lived in the US for too long. I was thinking of 1st May ("31st" of April) instead of 22nd July but it is true that 22nd July is used here.
2035. Re: follow-up cross question
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:02:10 -0000

Thanks for the input Tim, Darren and Macky. What's the best way to approach cube inspection to formulate the cross plan? I can't formulate that many steps ahead yet in my head. Is it best to write it out at first and then execute to see if correct? Thanks again. Roger Wood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > Hmm? But I updated the page a few days ago, and now it says this: > > "Will it really make a difference if I put the cross on the bottom / > left instead of on the top? > I don't feel like throwing away the eight algorithms I memorized. : ( > > Yes, it does make a huge difference. I use to do F2L with cross on > U-face, but switched to D-face after getting sub-35. I got a sub-30 > average within a week after making switching to cross on bottom. I > would recommend doing every step of the method with the first layer on > bottom. These are the two advantages of placing the cross on bottom: > # It lets you use U and R turns, which allows you to execute algs > quickly using finger tricks. > # It gives you a much better view of what you're solving and lets you > look ahead." > > I think your browser didn't reload the updated page. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Oops, I guess I didn't read carefully enough ^^; I just googled > > D-Cross and found that.. cause some of your pages are gone.. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > What I wrote was about the rest of the solve, not the cross itself. > > > > > > Do most people solve the cross on bottom from the start now? I > > > remember it being pretty rare in 2002-3. > > > > > > Macky > > > >
2036. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:03:36 -0000

Yes, I know, and I might be able to come close to it or even beat it already. But unless I really have a robot (not anytime soon, probably) I only have a very limited number of attempts because I need people to help and I probably won't find them very often. So I'd rather make sure I can beat it, and that's why I'd like to get faster first. Also, right now I'm improving quickly, so why waste an attempt now? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > That´s nonsense. You don´t have to get faster! Have you checked which average needed to make 3142 cubes in 24x60x60s? > Stamina! Stamina! > And remember; no stayer will open with the speed of a sprinter. > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:39 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > > > . Gotta get a bit faster before that, though. > >> > > Cheers! > > Stefan
2037. Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:37:27 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Very nice description of the requirements needed to set a new 24-hour > cubing record, but I just disagree with you one point: > > > I think I can safely say, unless you go to a tech school in India, > > we have more homework than you. > > I am not really disagreeing but I'm eager to know how you make that > conclusion? Under which assumptions? Is it really that hard? > > Sven > I'd be surprised as well. I looked at the original post - maybe it was set in some more restricted context but was it really meant that CalTech has more homework than any other educational establishment in the world outside of tech schools in India? From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be amazed if that statement was true. I think the words "I think I can safely say" are very ill-advised unless of course he has experienced full-time education at almost all educational establishments.
2038. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:48:50 -0000

Tyson, YOU never said 'a few years', but someone else did, and it sounded a bit weird to me... And I never claimed YOU said 'a few years', so I am not putting words in your mouth. It's just that you are feeling like I am putting words in your mouth. > And it's not just a "few hours" of our time, it's days. Compared to the 1000's of hours that speedcubers like us put into cubing, I think an event like this is taking just a few hours (for each person involved). You didn't do this all by yourself did you? > It seems to be that you've forgotten that we actually run competitions and put a lot of effort into those ourselves. No, Tyson.. How can I forget? You remind me of this all the time. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Seriously, why are people claiming that I say all these things? If you > review the posts, you'll see that I requested that someone should be > very serious about breaking this record. One way of proving to us that > you're actually serious is to break the record yourself unofficially at > home. I feel this is a reasonable request given the number of hours it > requires a team of people to ratify the record. In the United States, > there are libel laws which prevent people from making up false > statements about other people. I never said this record was "banned" > nor did I say the record would never be attempted again NOR did I say > that we wanted to wait a few years. > > And it's not just a "few hours" of our time, it's days. An event like > this disrupts our lives. We take out large portions of our day, rotate > off, and then we end up having to sleep. It's disruptive, we lose at > least a day of not being able to do homework, and everyone feels > miserable afterwards. Furthermore, you make it sound like we don't do > any acts of selflessness for the cubing community. It seems to be that > you've forgotten that we actually run competitions and put a lot of > effort into those ourselves. See, I guess I forgot that I'm obligated > to do those types of things. They have it in my contract, because a > cuber spends years cubing, then I have to take my time to fuel their > obsession. > > My friends and myself put a lot of effort into running competitions. > We've donated well more than our share of time to the cubing community. > What's a few hours to you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 5:11 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > > > Ok.. But what is a few hours, compared to all the time people like > > us put into cubing? > > > > I agree that it's inconsiderate for someone to break this record > > next week, but in a few years...? I mean, records are there to be > > broken. Cubers do it all the time. > > > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Well, it would be very inconsiderate for someone to just do this > > on a > >> whim. Please consider the total number of hours it took our crew > > to > >> assemble this record together. We all have school work, and > > everyone > >> took a considerable amount of time away from their lives to make > > this > >> happen. We had Adam and Matt also drive up to help out with the > > event. > >> It's not something "trivial" and it's not something that you try > > just > >> because you feel like it. > >> > >> Honestly, don't even think about doing this until you've done it > >> yourself unofficially in your own home. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 3:18 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>> The Caltech Crew would appreciate it if people left this record > >>>> untouched for at least a few years. We're not too eager to do > > all > >>> this > >>>> again. > >>>> > >>>> Shelley > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Is that a serious request? A few years? To me it feels like a > >>> motivation to try this too sometime... :p > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2039. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:53:04 -0000

If anyone ever needs my help with something like this, I am very very willing to help, btw (as long as it is not in the next few months ;)). I am sure you will find a lot of cubers that like to participate, as it is another excuse for organising a meeting again :). --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Yes, I know, and I might be able to come close to it or even beat it > already. But unless I really have a robot (not anytime soon, probably) > I only have a very limited number of attempts because I need people to > help and I probably won't find them very often. So I'd rather make > sure I can beat it, and that's why I'd like to get faster first. Also, > right now I'm improving quickly, so why waste an attempt now? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > That´s nonsense. You don´t have to get faster! Have you checked > which average needed to make 3142 cubes in 24x60x60s? > > Stamina! Stamina! > > And remember; no stayer will open with the speed of a sprinter. > > R > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:39 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number! > > > > > > > > > . Gotta get a bit faster before that, though. > > >> > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan >
2040. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:31:28 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > And it's not just a "few hours" of our time, it's days. > > Compared to the 1000's of hours that speedcubers like us put into > cubing, I think an event like this is taking just a few hours (for > each person involved). You didn't do this all by yourself did you? > I don't think the time we volunteered for this event is comparable to the thousands of hours speedcubers put into speedcubing. Most of those hours are people practicing on their own time for the sake of personal improvement. We took several hours out of our daily lives and homework schedules which we would much rather be spending doing something else, and got little to no compensation in return. Shelley
2041. Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:59:36 -0000

What, just because we have a lot of homework we can't have our hobbies? I'd also like to point out that "the amount of cubing that seems to go on in Caltech" is centralized around a small handful of people, out of the 900+ undergraduates that go here. Shelley --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be amazed if that statement was true.
2042. Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 22:21:11 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell <no_reply@...> wrote: > > What, just because we have a lot of homework we can't have our > hobbies? I'd also like to point out that "the amount of cubing that > seems to go on in Caltech" is centralized around a small handful of > people, out of the 900+ undergraduates that go here. > > Shelley > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be > amazed if that statement was true. > Not at all - I'm saying is that if CalTech really has more homework than any educational establishment on earth (except in India) then nobody would have time to do so much cubing. Are you confirming the statement about CalTech having more homework than all those other places?
2043. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:41:46 -0800

Perhaps the small group of people that cube at Caltech have the ability to focus on something they are really truly passionate about? I don't see the correlation. Maybe we're different from most people out there? Perhaps we really can succeed at cubing, in even a highly stressful academic environment. Yeah, I'm pretty confident that our undergraduate core curriculum is one of the most intense academic workloads in the world. It's impossible to rank them numerically, but I'll say we're definitely in the top 1/2%. In any case, it's true. The hours people spend cubing are for their own benefit. The hours we spend running competitions and assisting in everything else gives us no such self-gratification. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:21 PM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell > <no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> What, just because we have a lot of homework we can't have our >> hobbies? I'd also like to point out that "the amount of cubing that >> seems to go on in Caltech" is centralized around a small handful of >> people, out of the 900+ undergraduates that go here. >> >> Shelley >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 >> <no_reply@> wrote: >> >>> From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be >> amazed if that statement was true. >> > > Not at all - I'm saying is that if CalTech really has more homework > than any educational > establishment on earth (except in India) then nobody would have time > to do so much > cubing. Are you confirming the statement about CalTech having more > homework than all > those other places? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2044. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:59:53 -0800

Why is this topic even changed? The comment about "tech schools in India" was a small sarcastic remark in the middle of a set of guidelines we would request if someone wants to break the record. Stop picking on this little small thing and look at the big picture. We put in a lot of our time and energy so that other people can have the fame and glory. I think it's perfectly reasonable for us to ask people to put in some effort themselves if they want this 24-hour record. You will do it alone for 24 hours just so that you understand the excruciating pain that you will feel, and then you will provide some staff to help out. I'm not responding anymore about our academic workload at Caltech. It's not relevant at all. I have made it clear that I am open to running another 24-hour marathon. I do not see the necessity of continuing this discussion unless someone feels that guidelines that I have set forth are unfair. This is not a forum to discuss Caltech's homework load. The reason for bringing that up was simply to say that we're busy students, and if we are expected to take time out of our lives, you should be willing to help us out and make things easier for us. And Joel, if you want to seriously attempt this record, I'd be willing to run the event if you would be willing to fly to the United States. Otherwise, you're better off coordinating something with Ron. It's unfortunate that we're all separated geographically. I know Richard Patterson was talking about breaking the record. If he wants to try it, I'm open to it. Unless the guidelines I posted earlier are unreasonable, there's no need to argue. Personally, I'd love to see one of you guys try to break the record. It would be very entertaining for me, to see the human limits pushed as far as possible. Also, the dialogue that results from sleep deprivation because very very funny. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: > Perhaps the small group of people that cube at Caltech have the ability > to focus on something they are really truly passionate about? I don't > see the correlation. Maybe we're different from most people out there? > Perhaps we really can succeed at cubing, in even a highly stressful > academic environment. > > Yeah, I'm pretty confident that our undergraduate core curriculum is > one of the most intense academic workloads in the world. It's > impossible to rank them numerically, but I'll say we're definitely in > the top 1/2%. > > In any case, it's true. The hours people spend cubing are for their > own benefit. The hours we spend running competitions and assisting in > everything else gives us no such self-gratification. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:21 PM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell >> <no_reply@...> wrote: >>> >>> What, just because we have a lot of homework we can't have our >>> hobbies? I'd also like to point out that "the amount of cubing that >>> seems to go on in Caltech" is centralized around a small handful of >>> people, out of the 900+ undergraduates that go here. >>> >>> Shelley >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 >>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>> >>>> From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be >>> amazed if that statement was true. >>> >> >> Not at all - I'm saying is that if CalTech really has more homework >> than any educational >> establishment on earth (except in India) then nobody would have time >> to do so much >> cubing. Are you confirming the statement about CalTech having more >> homework than all >> those other places? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2045. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) (off topic)
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:08:14 -0000

> Yeah, I'm pretty confident that our undergraduate core curriculum is > one of the most intense academic workloads in the world. It's > impossible to rank them numerically, but I'll say we're definitely in > the top 1/2%. I agree now, but that's far different from saying > I think I can safely say, unless you go to a tech school in India, > we have more homework than you. Knowing that there are at least 25'000 universities in the world (8,407 of them being in India... I was very surprised actually but you can check at http://www.aneki.com/universities.html), you might say that Caltech is probably in the 125 *hardest* university. But knowing that the cubing community is a very specific portion of the overall studying population, I can imagine that you are making a huge mistake by saying "we have more homework than you"... >From my personal experience, I can definitely say that homeworks/courses at CMU (Carnegie Mellon University) in computer science (CMU is ranked between 1st and 3rd rank for its undergrad CS dept.) do NOT take more time than attending classes at my home university. My point is that you shouldn't make assumptions not based on any experienced situations. Sven
2046. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:11:35 -0000

Sorry for making a big mess out of this... I just like to create some stupid conversations sometimes. :-( Again, I congratulate Brent and the Caltech cubing crew for making this record possible. Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Why is this topic even changed? The comment about "tech schools in > India" was a small sarcastic remark in the middle of a set of > guidelines we would request if someone wants to break the record. Stop > picking on this little small thing and look at the big picture. > > We put in a lot of our time and energy so that other people can have > the fame and glory. I think it's perfectly reasonable for us to ask > people to put in some effort themselves if they want this 24-hour > record. You will do it alone for 24 hours just so that you understand > the excruciating pain that you will feel, and then you will provide > some staff to help out. > > I'm not responding anymore about our academic workload at Caltech. > It's not relevant at all. I have made it clear that I am open to > running another 24-hour marathon. I do not see the necessity of > continuing this discussion unless someone feels that guidelines that I > have set forth are unfair. This is not a forum to discuss Caltech's > homework load. The reason for bringing that up was simply to say that > we're busy students, and if we are expected to take time out of our > lives, you should be willing to help us out and make things easier for > us. > > And Joel, if you want to seriously attempt this record, I'd be willing > to run the event if you would be willing to fly to the United States. > Otherwise, you're better off coordinating something with Ron. It's > unfortunate that we're all separated geographically. I know Richard > Patterson was talking about breaking the record. If he wants to try > it, I'm open to it. > > Unless the guidelines I posted earlier are unreasonable, there's no > need to argue. > > Personally, I'd love to see one of you guys try to break the record. > It would be very entertaining for me, to see the human limits pushed as > far as possible. Also, the dialogue that results from sleep > deprivation because very very funny. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: > > > Perhaps the small group of people that cube at Caltech have the ability > > to focus on something they are really truly passionate about? I don't > > see the correlation. Maybe we're different from most people out there? > > Perhaps we really can succeed at cubing, in even a highly stressful > > academic environment. > > > > Yeah, I'm pretty confident that our undergraduate core curriculum is > > one of the most intense academic workloads in the world. It's > > impossible to rank them numerically, but I'll say we're definitely in > > the top 1/2%. > > > > In any case, it's true. The hours people spend cubing are for their > > own benefit. The hours we spend running competitions and assisting in > > everything else gives us no such self-gratification. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:21 PM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell > >> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>> What, just because we have a lot of homework we can't have our > >>> hobbies? I'd also like to point out that "the amount of cubing that > >>> seems to go on in Caltech" is centralized around a small handful of > >>> people, out of the 900+ undergraduates that go here. > >>> > >>> Shelley > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > >>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>>> From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be > >>> amazed if that statement was true. > >>> > >> > >> Not at all - I'm saying is that if CalTech really has more homework > >> than any educational > >> establishment on earth (except in India) then nobody would have time > >> to do so much > >> cubing. Are you confirming the statement about CalTech having more > >> homework than all > >> those other places? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2047. Re: follow-up cross question
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:46:36 -0000

Oh, yeah.. I clicked on google's Cached version of the page.. ^^; --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > Hmm? But I updated the page a few days ago, and now it says this: > > "Will it really make a difference if I put the cross on the bottom / > left instead of on the top? > I don't feel like throwing away the eight algorithms I memorized. :( > > Yes, it does make a huge difference. I use to do F2L with cross on > U-face, but switched to D-face after getting sub-35. I got a sub-30 > average within a week after making switching to cross on bottom. I > would recommend doing every step of the method with the first layer on > bottom. These are the two advantages of placing the cross on bottom: > # It lets you use U and R turns, which allows you to execute algs > quickly using finger tricks. > # It gives you a much better view of what you're solving and lets you > look ahead." > > I think your browser didn't reload the updated page. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Oops, I guess I didn't read carefully enough ^^; I just googled > > D-Cross and found that.. cause some of your pages are gone.. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > What I wrote was about the rest of the solve, not the cross itself. > > > > > > Do most people solve the cross on bottom from the start now? I > > > remember it being pretty rare in 2002-3. > > > > > > Macky > > > >
2048. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:49:29 -0000

Thanks for the offer organising a 24 hour cubemarathon once, but I think, if I really want that, I expect that I can find some people who can help me out with that. No need to go to the US for that. And I don't think the regulations are unreasonable. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Why is this topic even changed? The comment about "tech schools in > India" was a small sarcastic remark in the middle of a set of > guidelines we would request if someone wants to break the record. Stop > picking on this little small thing and look at the big picture. > > We put in a lot of our time and energy so that other people can have > the fame and glory. I think it's perfectly reasonable for us to ask > people to put in some effort themselves if they want this 24-hour > record. You will do it alone for 24 hours just so that you understand > the excruciating pain that you will feel, and then you will provide > some staff to help out. > > I'm not responding anymore about our academic workload at Caltech. > It's not relevant at all. I have made it clear that I am open to > running another 24-hour marathon. I do not see the necessity of > continuing this discussion unless someone feels that guidelines that I > have set forth are unfair. This is not a forum to discuss Caltech's > homework load. The reason for bringing that up was simply to say that > we're busy students, and if we are expected to take time out of our > lives, you should be willing to help us out and make things easier for > us. > > And Joel, if you want to seriously attempt this record, I'd be willing > to run the event if you would be willing to fly to the United States. > Otherwise, you're better off coordinating something with Ron. It's > unfortunate that we're all separated geographically. I know Richard > Patterson was talking about breaking the record. If he wants to try > it, I'm open to it. > > Unless the guidelines I posted earlier are unreasonable, there's no > need to argue. > > Personally, I'd love to see one of you guys try to break the record. > It would be very entertaining for me, to see the human limits pushed as > far as possible. Also, the dialogue that results from sleep > deprivation because very very funny. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: > > > Perhaps the small group of people that cube at Caltech have the ability > > to focus on something they are really truly passionate about? I don't > > see the correlation. Maybe we're different from most people out there? > > Perhaps we really can succeed at cubing, in even a highly stressful > > academic environment. > > > > Yeah, I'm pretty confident that our undergraduate core curriculum is > > one of the most intense academic workloads in the world. It's > > impossible to rank them numerically, but I'll say we're definitely in > > the top 1/2%. > > > > In any case, it's true. The hours people spend cubing are for their > > own benefit. The hours we spend running competitions and assisting in > > everything else gives us no such self-gratification. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 2:21 PM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell > >> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>> What, just because we have a lot of homework we can't have our > >>> hobbies? I'd also like to point out that "the amount of cubing that > >>> seems to go on in Caltech" is centralized around a small handful of > >>> people, out of the 900+ undergraduates that go here. > >>> > >>> Shelley > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > >>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>>> From the amount of cubing that seems to go on in CalTech I would be > >>> amazed if that statement was true. > >>> > >> > >> Not at all - I'm saying is that if CalTech really has more homework > >> than any educational > >> establishment on earth (except in India) then nobody would have time > >> to do so much > >> cubing. Are you confirming the statement about CalTech having more > >> homework than all > >> those other places? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2049. Re: follow-up cross question
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:54:03 -0000

It takes a lot of practice (yes, pretty blank statement..). you can try writing it out for starters, then move on to memorizing. a few hints: 1. know your cube's color scheme 2. explore different ways/shortcuts 3. you should be able to do it without looking 4. position the pieces relative to each other then align them by doing D turns (provided that it gives an optimal solution to the cross); this is related to knowing your color scheme 5. check out some websites that talk about the cross.. i remember there were a few floating around here good luck Darren --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Thanks for the input Tim, Darren and Macky. > > What's the best way to approach cube inspection to formulate the > cross plan? I can't formulate that many steps ahead yet in my > head. Is it best to write it out at first and then execute to see > if correct? Thanks again. > > Roger Wood > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > Hmm? But I updated the page a few days ago, and now it says this: > > > > "Will it really make a difference if I put the cross on the > bottom / > > left instead of on the top? > > I don't feel like throwing away the eight algorithms I memorized. : > ( > > > > Yes, it does make a huge difference. I use to do F2L with cross on > > U-face, but switched to D-face after getting sub-35. I got a sub-30 > > average within a week after making switching to cross on bottom. I > > would recommend doing every step of the method with the first > layer on > > bottom. These are the two advantages of placing the cross on > bottom: > > # It lets you use U and R turns, which allows you to execute algs > > quickly using finger tricks. > > # It gives you a much better view of what you're solving and lets > you > > look ahead." > > > > I think your browser didn't reload the updated page. > > > > Macky > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Oops, I guess I didn't read carefully enough ^^; I just googled > > > D-Cross and found that.. cause some of your pages are gone.. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What I wrote was about the rest of the solve, not the cross > itself. > > > > > > > > Do most people solve the cross on bottom from the start now? I > > > > remember it being pretty rare in 2002-3. > > > > > > > > Macky > > > > > > >
2050. Re: DIY Center pieces
From: "cantspelwright" <cantspelwright@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:02:26 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > The new 2006 ones stay on with a square piece of paper wedged under > the cap. The old ones I always had to glue. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" > <cantspelwright@> wrote: > > > > Anyone find a way to keep them on without gluing them and such? > > > I bought mine at the end of Janurary, and hints in where/how to wedge this paper underneath?
2051. [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:31:40 -0000

Hi Tyson :-) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Seriously, why are people claiming that I say all these things? If you > review the posts, you'll see that I requested that someone should be > very serious about breaking this record. One way of proving to us that > you're actually serious is to break the record yourself unofficially at > home. I feel this is a reasonable request given the number of hours it > requires a team of people to ratify the record. This is an unreasonable request. There is ONE guy who is gonna solve cubes for 24 hrs or up to maximum 24 hrs. If someone feels he/she is up to it then why not go directly for official record? U Tyson would not be involved. So what does it matter to u ? If the person going for it has enough scramblers/helpers why should he have to do it twice (unofficially then officially). I can't see that u Tyson can request this. It doesn't make sense to me ;-) After all the cube is just a puzzle. And if the person fails badly to beat the current record, so what ?? Cheers! -Per
2052. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:38:56 -0000

Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all up... Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will also add that competitive edge to it. And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to do this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the counters and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some extent. Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but to ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit for it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a lot of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, as Per said... Craig
2053. Re: DIY Center pieces
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:42:28 -0000

Cut a piece of paper square so that it is roughly the same size as the center (including the thickness of the walls). Put it over the opening. Then put the cap on, pressing the paper evenly on all four sides as you push the cap in. The tension created by wedging the paper holds the cap in place quite nicely. Be careful if you lube, not to get the paper wet. Silicon-soaked paper doesn't work as well! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" <cantspelwright@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > The new 2006 ones stay on with a square piece of paper wedged under > > the cap. The old ones I always had to glue. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" > > <cantspelwright@> wrote: > > > > > > Anyone find a way to keep them on without gluing them and such? > > > > > > I bought mine at the end of Janurary, and hints in where/how to wedge > this paper underneath? >
2054. Re: follow-up cross question
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:47:17 -0000

I would suggest "feeling your way" through a cross solve, if you have trouble seeing ahead. You need to be able to anticipate at least 1 or 2 turns ahead. Try for the first piece, then move on to the next, and so on. Count the number of turns, and try to keep it 8 or less. With practice you will be able to anticipate and see the whole thing in advance, because you will have seen the patterns before. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > It takes a lot of practice (yes, pretty blank statement..). you can > try writing it out for starters, then move on to memorizing. a few hints: > > 1. know your cube's color scheme > 2. explore different ways/shortcuts > 3. you should be able to do it without looking > 4. position the pieces relative to each other then align them by doing > D turns (provided that it gives an optimal solution to the cross); > this is related to knowing your color scheme > 5. check out some websites that talk about the cross.. i remember > there were a few floating around here > > good luck > > Darren > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" > <pawsnwhiskers@> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the input Tim, Darren and Macky. > > > > What's the best way to approach cube inspection to formulate the > > cross plan? I can't formulate that many steps ahead yet in my > > head. Is it best to write it out at first and then execute to see > > if correct? Thanks again. > > > > Roger Wood > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > Hmm? But I updated the page a few days ago, and now it says this: > > > > > > "Will it really make a difference if I put the cross on the > > bottom / > > > left instead of on the top? > > > I don't feel like throwing away the eight algorithms I memorized. : > > ( > > > > > > Yes, it does make a huge difference. I use to do F2L with cross on > > > U-face, but switched to D-face after getting sub-35. I got a sub-30 > > > average within a week after making switching to cross on bottom. I > > > would recommend doing every step of the method with the first > > layer on > > > bottom. These are the two advantages of placing the cross on > > bottom: > > > # It lets you use U and R turns, which allows you to execute algs > > > quickly using finger tricks. > > > # It gives you a much better view of what you're solving and lets > > you > > > look ahead." > > > > > > I think your browser didn't reload the updated page. > > > > > > Macky > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oops, I guess I didn't read carefully enough ^^; I just googled > > > > D-Cross and found that.. cause some of your pages are gone.. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What I wrote was about the rest of the solve, not the cross > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > Do most people solve the cross on bottom from the start now? I > > > > > remember it being pretty rare in 2002-3. > > > > > > > > > > Macky > > > > > > > > > > >
2055. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:57:46 -0000

Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to provide some proof it'll be worth their time? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all up... > > Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 > people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > also add that competitive edge to it. > > And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to do > this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the counters > and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for > it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some extent. > Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but to > ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit for > it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a lot > of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself > through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, > as Per said... > > Craig >
2056. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:00:52 -0800

It doesn't have to involve me, but it needs to involve someone from the WCA for the record to be official. I personally am not a big fan of taking out hours out of my day if someone has no chance for the world record. If they can find another WCA official to preside over for them, then fine, go for it. If you want to do it at Caltech, we request that you practice once. I believe people underestimate the power of fatigue. We at the WCA need to design a system for dealing with records like these. With all of the other records, there are competitions scheduled so you go to a competition and you do your thing. For a record like this, it's obviously done in a different manner. Obviously, I can't accommodate every single person who has an inkling of a desire to break this record. One possibility is to have a one-hour competition and the winner of the one-hour competition gets a chance to break the 24-hour record. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Per Kristen Fredlund wrote: > Hi Tyson :-) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Seriously, why are people claiming that I say all these things? If > you >> review the posts, you'll see that I requested that someone should be >> very serious about breaking this record. One way of proving to us > that >> you're actually serious is to break the record yourself unofficially > at >> home. I feel this is a reasonable request given the number of hours > it >> requires a team of people to ratify the record. > > This is an unreasonable request. There is ONE guy who is gonna solve > cubes for 24 hrs or up to maximum 24 hrs. If someone feels he/she is > up to it then why not go directly for official record? U Tyson would > not be involved. So what does it matter to u ? If the person going for > it has enough scramblers/helpers why should he have to do it twice > (unofficially then officially). I can't see that u Tyson can request > this. It doesn't make sense to me ;-) > > After all the cube is just a puzzle. And if the person fails badly to > beat the current record, so what ?? > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2057. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:07:27 -0800

Hi Stefan, Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some type of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't have time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial work of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's commitments to other aspects of their lives. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that > if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@...> wrote: >> >> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > up... >> >> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 >> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will >> also add that competitive edge to it. >> >> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to > do >> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > counters >> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for >> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > extent. >> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > to >> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > for >> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > lot >> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself >> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, >> as Per said... >> >> Craig >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2058. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Guess The Number!
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:13:08 -0600

> I don't think the time we volunteered for this event is comparable to > the thousands of hours speedcubers put into speedcubing. Most of those > hours are people practicing on their own time for the sake of personal > improvement. We took several hours out of our daily lives and homework > schedules which we would much rather be spending doing something else, > and got little to no compensation in return. not to be too technical, but did you mean you could have been doing something else instead of would much rather have been doing something else? I mean, if you guys were there, you obviously had some interest in it and weren't forced to do it. or am i mistaken? -- -cubekid
2059. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:16:47 -0000

Ok :-) Point taken. You are solely talking about involving people at Caltech for an official attempt. Got it :D So this was a dispute over nothing basically ... But i would still claim regarding the fatigue that 1 hr cubing is not really related to 24 hr cubing. Someone doing worse than another guy for 1 hr cubing may have more stamina for the 24 hr cubing. I don't think that too many ppl are gonna attempt to break the record anyway. And most likely next attempt will be in europe ... ?? Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some type > of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't have > time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial work > of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > > I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's commitments > to other aspects of their lives. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that > > if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > > provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > >> > >> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > > up... > >> > >> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 > >> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >> also add that competitive edge to it. > >> > >> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to > > do > >> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > > counters > >> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for > >> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > > extent. > >> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > > to > >> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > > for > >> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > > lot > >> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself > >> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, > >> as Per said... > >> > >> Craig > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2060. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:24:38 -0000

Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he have scramblers? Or did he scramble himself? Cause seriously, that's 39.96 seconds per cube which would be quite slow if you had people scrambling for you. So, who knows? Cheers! Stefan
2061. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 01:36:16 +0000 (GMT)

I think he had scrambles...take a look at the gallery on www.rubiks.dk ...there's at least one guy scrambling...or solving...or trying...or what? hehe Pedro Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> escreveu: Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he have scramblers? Or did he scramble himself? Cause seriously, that's 39.96 seconds per cube which would be quite slow if you had people scrambling for you. So, who knows? Cheers! Stefan SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2062. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I cant seem to even get close to solving the 3x3 cube even with the solution
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:41:09 -0800 (PST)

ok, so like at the end... like theres that one algorithm thing that messes up everything at the end... like exept the top, just keep going, and like at the end of it, it will work out really well. otherwise look at jessica fridrich's solution. or jasmine's. by tthe way, you have to hold the cube exactly like it is in the solution book.. like yea... ok.. w/e bye. --- ashvinz11 <ashvinz11@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "ashvinz11" > <ashvinz11@...> wrote: > > > > I have the 25th anniversary 3x3 cube. I have used > several solution > > tips and things (for example, the petrus method). > I just can't seem to > > get close. the only time i figured it out was wiht > a solver, so i > > didnt really figure it out. Can anyone help? also, > what are algorithms > > or whatever? Thanks in advance! > > > > > Bump > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2063. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I cant seem to even get close to solving the 3x3 cube even with the solution
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:48:22 -0800 (PST)

an algorithm is like a function... if the cube is in this place, use this combo to do this move sort of thing... i hope this clears it up.. --- ashvinz11 <ashvinz11@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "ashvinz11" > <ashvinz11@...> wrote: > > > > I have the 25th anniversary 3x3 cube. I have used > several solution > > tips and things (for example, the petrus method). > I just can't seem to > > get close. the only time i figured it out was wiht > a solver, so i > > didnt really figure it out. Can anyone help? also, > what are algorithms > > or whatever? Thanks in advance! > > > > > Bump > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2064. [Speed cubing group] solve blindfold! =)
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:52:02 -0800 (PST)

whooppy do. i can solve a cube blindfold... but unfortunatly, i can only do it if the peices are permuted but not oriented. i am working on permutation.. meow... can anyone give me a good site to solving a cube blindfolded thats like really good and stuff... step by step instructions ... i gues... yea.... meow... im kinda shy too... meow... prrrr..... im too cool for y'all!!! i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2065. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:00:29 -0000

I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, its not all one person saying I want to do this... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some type > of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't have > time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial work > of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > > I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's commitments > to other aspects of their lives. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that > > if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > > provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > >> > >> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > > up... > >> > >> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 > >> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >> also add that competitive edge to it. > >> > >> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to > > do > >> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > > counters > >> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for > >> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > > extent. > >> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > > to > >> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > > for > >> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > > lot > >> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself > >> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, > >> as Per said... > >> > >> Craig > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2066. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:31:23 -0800

I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we help you? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > its not all one person saying I want to do this... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Hi Stefan, >> >> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some type >> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single >> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't >> have >> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good >> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial work >> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. >> >> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life >> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's commitments >> to other aspects of their lives. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: >> >>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that >>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to >>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? >>> >>> Cheers! >>> Stefan >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" >>> <logitewty@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all >>> up... >>>> >>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 >>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will >>>> also add that competitive edge to it. >>>> >>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to >>> do >>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the >>> counters >>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for >>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some >>> extent. >>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but >>> to >>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit >>> for >>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a >>> lot >>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself >>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, >>>> as Per said... >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2067. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 02:50:18 -0000

But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > help you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > > do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > > you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > > its not all one person saying I want to do this... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Stefan, > >> > >> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some type > >> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > >> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > >> have > >> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > >> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial work > >> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > >> > >> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > >> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's commitments > >> to other aspects of their lives. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > >> > >>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that > >>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > >>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > >>> > >>> Cheers! > >>> Stefan > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > >>> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > >>> up... > >>>> > >>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 or 3 > >>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > >>>> > >>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to > >>> do > >>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > >>> counters > >>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for > >>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > >>> extent. > >>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > >>> to > >>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > >>> for > >>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > >>> lot > >>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself > >>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the getgo, > >>>> as Per said... > >>>> > >>>> Craig > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2068. Should I take it back? Stiff Walmart 25th anniversary cube.
From: "stuarthall_ct" <stuart.a.hall@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:03:47 -0000

For Christmas I got myself a 25th anniversary cube from FAO Shwartz (with regular colors including a white side), and I have never played with a cube that rotated as smoothly. Today I went to Walmart and bought a 25th anniverary edition with a silver side instead of white. This was to be my work practice cube. I excitedly ripped it out of the plastic casing only to try to turn it and it is so stiff! I can barely turn each side. Being a newbie and only able to compare the two cubes, I am sorely disappointed with the new cube. Should I return it, or is it worth taking it apart, sanding the cubies a little and adding some silicon spray? For the price it wasn't bad, $9.97, and the store is not far away. I think there were another 5 or 6 on the shelf... maybe I just got a bad one? Or do they all need a little work to get them just right? Thanks for the advice.
2069. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:08:45 -0800

Why do you need 10 people? You just need people to scramble cubes for you. They can count as well. Basically, you're not willing to put for the effort to even practice something once and you want us to organize everything for you? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through >> the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for >> themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing >> 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we >> help you? >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: >> >>> I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I >>> do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, >>> you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, >>> its not all one person saying I want to do this... >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Stefan, >>>> >>>> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some >>>> type >>>> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single >>>> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't >>>> have >>>> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good >>>> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial >>>> work >>>> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. >>>> >>>> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life >>>> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's >>>> commitments >>>> to other aspects of their lives. >>>> >>>> Tyson Mao >>>> Astrophysics '06 >>>> California Institute of Technology >>>> >>>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > that >>>>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to >>>>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> Stefan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" >>>>> <logitewty@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all >>>>> up... >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > or 3 >>>>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will >>>>>> also add that competitive edge to it. >>>>>> >>>>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able >>>>>> to >>>>> do >>>>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the >>>>> counters >>>>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit >>>>>> for >>>>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some >>>>> extent. >>>>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but >>>>> to >>>>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit >>>>> for >>>>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a >>>>> lot >>>>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put >>>>>> yourself >>>>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > getgo, >>>>>> as Per said... >>>>>> >>>>>> Craig >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2070. My 24 hour Marathon attempt
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, caltechrubiks@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:10:43 -0800 (PST)

Hi Everyone, Firstly I'd like to thank all of the people who were interested in my attempt. I laughed at Stefan's pictures and some of the guesses were close. I would also like to thank the Caltech members who participated in my attempt, and who worked _very_ hard to make this possible. I would like to officially thank the following people: Mark Polinkovsky, Mark Sullivan, Daniel Lo, Shelley Chang, Leyan Lo, Michael White, Michael Inadomi, Eileen Xie, Christopher Kreuger, Matthew Wallisa, Adam Zamora, Tyson Mao, and Chris Hunt. Chris, thanks for your timer- I think we ended up using a combination of Netcube and the Marathon timer... Not sure :). Thanks to my mom who took care of the transportation while I was half asleep. People have asked what it's like- the fatigue, the results, etc. Let's just say my wrist went out within the first 2 hours- so imagine at the 12 hour mark it hurt pretty badly. I guess this can be fixed with a set of super loose cubes. The pain goes away after a very long hour nap though :). I think my arms are twice as strong now that it's over.... I do think I could have done 2001 at 12 hours flat, if I didn't take the 15 minutes of break within the first 12 hours. It's tough- nonstop cubing. The hardest part is keeping the time down with no-preinspection. A little more practice with no inspection would have helped. Nonetheless, it's very good practice for 24 hours straight. Honestly I do think 4000 is possible, with the motivation and training. I agree with the Caltech members that it was tiring for them; some of them were doing homework and were up as long as me (some even more, some less). I respect the fact that people like this exist in the Cubing community to make things like this happen. I did enjoy this, because the Caltech people were pretty cool about it. I see a few people have become interested in this category now, and see it possible to beat. That's really awesome- go for it! If anyone is up for a try at it, I do say that I'll be willing to do this again; actually, I'm up for a dual match. In other words, I'd do the next attempt racing head on (one vs. one) with anyone else who wants to do it. Personally I wouldn't ask Tyson and his crew to do this again- they're all cool, and I respect their successful effort in helping me, but they probably have more important things to do :). So if anyone wants to break 3141, I'm up for a head on one-to-one 24 hour marathon race with someone else setting it up. If you're interested, send me an email. I'm game. By the way, after the 2001st solve at 12 hours and 8 minutes, I took an hour break. By the time I finished, I had about an hour left, so I did have some time left. I do think 3141 is possible to beat, but... If someone else is willing to break it, I'm willing to do a 24 hour marathon again to race with them. Again, if you're interested, email me. I respect that Tyson and his crew are setting up Nationals later this year and that's super duper cool enough for me. And thanks to all the people who personally emailed me about it- that's pretty cool. Thanks to Frank Morris for sending me a cube to practice on before nationals, and thanks to everyone else. If I didn't include your name and you were a part of this, I deeply apologize, and you can email me about it. Besides, the scramblers seemed to have increased their speed as well ;) [namely Matt Wallisa]. Racing the scramblers was a motivation, too, to keep the pace. It worked for many hours... For the caltech people, I do ask one more thing: can you send me the data of my solves vs. time graph you had? I would appreciate it. Thanks a bunch. Again, if you're interested in a 24 hour marathon attempt, maybe we can get all the people interested at one time and race head on, so email me. I'm definately game. I completely understand if Tyson's crew can't do it for a year or whatever- it's all good with me, because they worked hard as well, and they shouldn't be "the" people to do this every time. Peace everybody, -Brent Morgan :) --Brent --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2071. Re: [Speed cubing group] Should I take it back? Stiff Walmart 25th anniversary cube.
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 19:21:18 -0800 (PST)

i also have a 25th anniversary cube that was very tight the first days or so.... just take the thing apart and spray the center mechanism with silicone, let it dry and put it back together.. you dont have to mess with the other parts. you should also consider buying better stickers as the crappy 25th anniversary ones rip off easily. --- stuarthall_ct <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > For Christmas I got myself a 25th anniversary cube > from FAO Shwartz > (with regular colors including a white side), and I > have never played > with a cube that rotated as smoothly. > > Today I went to Walmart and bought a 25th anniverary > edition with a > silver side instead of white. This was to be my work > practice cube. I > excitedly ripped it out of the plastic casing only > to try to turn it > and it is so stiff! I can barely turn each side. > > Being a newbie and only able to compare the two > cubes, I am sorely > disappointed with the new cube. Should I return it, > or is it worth > taking it apart, sanding the cubies a little and > adding some silicon > spray? > > For the price it wasn't bad, $9.97, and the store is > not far away. I > think there were another 5 or 6 on the shelf... > maybe I just got a bad > one? Or do they all need a little work to get them > just right? > > Thanks for the advice. > > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2072. Re: DIY Center pieces
From: "cantspelwright" <cantspelwright@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:33:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Cut a piece of paper square so that it is roughly the same size as > the center (including the thickness of the walls). Put it over the > opening. Then put the cap on, pressing the paper evenly on all four > sides as you push the cap in. The tension created by wedging the > paper holds the cap in place quite nicely. Be careful if you lube, > not to get the paper wet. Silicon-soaked paper doesn't work as well! > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" > <cantspelwright@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > The new 2006 ones stay on with a square piece of paper wedged > under > > > the cap. The old ones I always had to glue. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" > > > <cantspelwright@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone find a way to keep them on without gluing them and such? > > > > > > > > > I bought mine at the end of Janurary, and hints in where/how to > wedge > > this paper underneath? > > > Thanks a ton! for the past month I've had tape on them and it was all annoying
2073. Re: [Speed cubing group] Should I take it back? Stiff Walmart 25th anniversary
From: "cantspelwright" <cantspelwright@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:36:18 -0000

Don't try to sand it, I did it to one of my cubes and it totally ruined the whole cube. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...> wrote: > > i also have a 25th anniversary cube that was very > tight the first days or so.... just take the thing > apart and spray the center mechanism with silicone, > let it dry and put it back together.. you dont have to > mess with the other parts. you should also consider > buying better stickers as the crappy 25th anniversary > ones rip off easily. > > --- stuarthall_ct <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > > > For Christmas I got myself a 25th anniversary cube > > from FAO Shwartz > > (with regular colors including a white side), and I > > have never played > > with a cube that rotated as smoothly. > > > > Today I went to Walmart and bought a 25th anniverary > > edition with a > > silver side instead of white. This was to be my work > > practice cube. I > > excitedly ripped it out of the plastic casing only > > to try to turn it > > and it is so stiff! I can barely turn each side. > > > > Being a newbie and only able to compare the two > > cubes, I am sorely > > disappointed with the new cube. Should I return it, > > or is it worth > > taking it apart, sanding the cubies a little and > > adding some silicon > > spray? > > > > For the price it wasn't bad, $9.97, and the store is > > not far away. I > > think there were another 5 or 6 on the shelf... > > maybe I just got a bad > > one? Or do they all need a little work to get them > > just right? > > > > Thanks for the advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! > > i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2074. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:20:42 +0530

Hello all. Sorry for being a little late but i couldnt help noticing this comment... On 2/21/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > Why is this topic even changed? The comment about "tech schools in > India" was a small sarcastic remark in the middle of a set of > guidelines we would request if someone wants to break the record. Well i am from an "indian tech school" . The Indian Institute of Technology , Bombay. Which i am proud to say was ranked third in teching in the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Institutes_of_Technology I guess you made this requirement to stop people from having a go at this record but now you cant stop me! :) Anyways if this was meant as a scarcastic comment then i guess its your ignorance. And since now that i am now eligible, i can start practicing for the record :-) Sachin.
2075. Re: [Speed cubing group] Should I take it back? Stiff Walmart 25th anniversary
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 03:51:04 -0000

I dunno...might as well try considering how stiff some of those 25th ones are. I mean, it's not like you're losing much, considering how bad they can be, and considering how easily replaceable (sp? sorry, it's too late to try to spell) they are. Oh, and get rid of the damn reflective stickers. I had a friend who was solving one of those with a red shirt on...not cool. Any reflective sticker on the F face looked red. They're so distracting. And, even with a non-speedcuber using it, at least three stickers fell off (down to the white thing) within a week. Four days, more like. Really, the stickers are poorly designed. Rubiks should get a truckload of cubesmith stickers. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" <cantspelwright@...> wrote: > > Don't try to sand it, I did it to one of my cubes and it totally > ruined the whole cube. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller- nicolato > <maltmn@> wrote: > > > > i also have a 25th anniversary cube that was very > > tight the first days or so.... just take the thing > > apart and spray the center mechanism with silicone, > > let it dry and put it back together.. you dont have to > > mess with the other parts. you should also consider > > buying better stickers as the crappy 25th anniversary > > ones rip off easily. > > > > --- stuarthall_ct <stuart.a.hall@> wrote: > > > > > For Christmas I got myself a 25th anniversary cube > > > from FAO Shwartz > > > (with regular colors including a white side), and I > > > have never played > > > with a cube that rotated as smoothly. > > > > > > Today I went to Walmart and bought a 25th anniverary > > > edition with a > > > silver side instead of white. This was to be my work > > > practice cube. I > > > excitedly ripped it out of the plastic casing only > > > to try to turn it > > > and it is so stiff! I can barely turn each side. > > > > > > Being a newbie and only able to compare the two > > > cubes, I am sorely > > > disappointed with the new cube. Should I return it, > > > or is it worth > > > taking it apart, sanding the cubies a little and > > > adding some silicon > > > spray? > > > > > > For the price it wasn't bad, $9.97, and the store is > > > not far away. I > > > think there were another 5 or 6 on the shelf... > > > maybe I just got a bad > > > one? Or do they all need a little work to get them > > > just right? > > > > > > Thanks for the advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! > > > > i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
2076. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:30:34 -0800

On Feb 20, 2006, at 16:57, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just that > if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > provide some proof it'll be worth their time? It's so crazy it might just be true!! I don't know that I've ever seen such lack of sense of humor as in this discussion. Was every cuber in the world up for 40 hours straight staring at the webcast and then started posting?? Also, on a cubing note, the ultimate blindfold cube is now on the market: http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2006/02/ touch_based_rubik_cube.html - - - - - - - - - - - - "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." --- Terry Pratchett Lars Petrus - lars@... http://lar5.com
2077. Where can i find????
From: ary_2155 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 05:37:23 -0000

teh Rubiks DIY Kit cubes...tehy are all sold out on teh website at rubiks.com
2078. Re: [Speed cubing group] Where can i find????
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 21:50:13 -0800

yes. They are out of stock at the moment...but this is where you get them: https://secure.rubiks.com/lvl3/index_lvl3.cfm?lan=eng&lvl1=produc&lvl2=rubbrn&lvl3=rbkshp&lvl4=cubasy -Chris On 2/20/06, ary_2155 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > teh Rubiks DIY Kit cubes...tehy are all sold out on teh website at > rubiks.com > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2079. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 08:26:35 -0000

I realised after I had posted that the reason I never noticed the pi connection to my birthday is because in the Uk we write dates logically in increasing order of unit size - days/months/years. Doesn't look quite so pi like then! Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> > wrote: >> >> I consider myself a bit of a geek but I never realised my birthday is pi >> day. > > Not even close to a geek then. > > When I was running up to the last couple of weeks I had a counter running > down to my 1 > billionth birth second. : ) > I'd accounted for the leap seconds etc. but I was only able to nail the > exact time down to > +/- 60 seconds. [Time of birth is only recorded to the minute. : ( ] > I took a lunch break so I could celebrate. > > Also last time I was in NY I arranged to see a friend for my 1/3 century. > (Although this was > just 33 years + 4 months rather than exactly 100/3 years. I was in the UK > at the erxact > time, which was the previous day.) > > And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. > Unless you are in the > original sideshow sense! > >>Problem is that outside of this community I don't know anyone who >> would find this the least bit interesting. Well I'll just have to be >> satisfied with my own sense of happiness on this one. >> >> Duncan >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 2:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 >> >> >> > True, though... I think most things "pi" related don't usually round... >> > gosh, what geeks are we debating the rounding of pi! With "pi" day, >> > it's generally on March 14, at 1:59 PM, and well, I guess you could >> > carry it out for more decimal places, and in this case as well, >> > rounding makes no sense. >> > >> > We actually had Brent do the F2L on the cube. Given it's a 7 step >> > situation, it comes out to about .59... I think? Eh... I'm not sure. >> > >> > Tyson Mao >> > Astrophysics '06 >> > California Institute of Technology >> > >> > On Feb 19, 2006, at 2:56 AM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: >> > >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I think Brent Morgan is going to stop after 3141 cubes. He'll >> >>> probably >> >>> solve half a cube after that, but exhaustion is definitely setting >> >>> in. >> >>> Tune into the webcast to see the finale! >> >>> >> >>> Tyson Mao >> >>> Astrophysics '06 >> >>> California Institute of Technology >> >>> >> >> >> >> I think that guess came a bit late in the day! >> >> I'm kind of curious, given the subject, why not go for 3142. Rounding >> >> off to 3 decimal >> >> places and multippying by 1000 would give 3142. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
2080. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:33:21 +0100

Maybe you haven´t noticed it in the UK but there is an UE standard for writing dates: YYYY-MM-DD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > I realised after I had posted that the reason I never noticed the pi > connection to my birthday is because in the Uk we write dates logically in > increasing order of unit size - days/months/years. Doesn't look quite so pi > like then! > > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:20 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> I consider myself a bit of a geek but I never realised my birthday is pi > >> day. > > > > Not even close to a geek then. > > > > When I was running up to the last couple of weeks I had a counter running > > down to my 1 > > billionth birth second. : ) > > I'd accounted for the leap seconds etc. but I was only able to nail the > > exact time down to > > +/- 60 seconds. [Time of birth is only recorded to the minute. : ( ] > > I took a lunch break so I could celebrate. > > > > Also last time I was in NY I arranged to see a friend for my 1/3 century. > > (Although this was > > just 33 years + 4 months rather than exactly 100/3 years. I was in the UK > > at the erxact > > time, which was the previous day.) > > > > And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. > > Unless you are in the > > original sideshow sense! > > > >>Problem is that outside of this community I don't know anyone who > >> would find this the least bit interesting. Well I'll just have to be > >> satisfied with my own sense of happiness on this one. > >> > >> Duncan > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> > >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 2:49 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > >> > >> > >> > True, though... I think most things "pi" related don't usually round... > >> > gosh, what geeks are we debating the rounding of pi! With "pi" day, > >> > it's generally on March 14, at 1:59 PM, and well, I guess you could > >> > carry it out for more decimal places, and in this case as well, > >> > rounding makes no sense. > >> > > >> > We actually had Brent do the F2L on the cube. Given it's a 7 step > >> > situation, it comes out to about .59... I think? Eh... I'm not sure. > >> > > >> > Tyson Mao > >> > Astrophysics '06 > >> > California Institute of Technology > >> > > >> > On Feb 19, 2006, at 2:56 AM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > >> > > >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> I think Brent Morgan is going to stop after 3141 cubes. He'll > >> >>> probably > >> >>> solve half a cube after that, but exhaustion is definitely setting > >> >>> in. > >> >>> Tune into the webcast to see the finale! > >> >>> > >> >>> Tyson Mao > >> >>> Astrophysics '06 > >> >>> California Institute of Technology > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> I think that guess came a bit late in the day! > >> >> I'm kind of curious, given the subject, why not go for 3142. Rounding > >> >> off to 3 decimal > >> >> places and multippying by 1000 would give 3142. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2081. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:40:15 +0100

How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:24 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) > Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he > have scramblers? Or did he scramble himself? Cause seriously, that's > 39.96 seconds per cube which would be quite slow if you had people > scrambling for you. So, who knows? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2082. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:25:04 -0000

Well, I can surely say, I will never attempt to break this record. I don't have the motivation for it. I've done 1hr cubing and that made my tired so 24hr is out of the question. But if any of you other fast guys will be going for the record, I wish you good luck. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Ok :-) > > Point taken. You are solely talking about involving people at > Caltech for an official attempt. Got it :D > > So this was a dispute over nothing basically ... > > But i would still claim regarding the fatigue that 1 hr cubing is > not really related to 24 hr cubing. Someone doing worse than another > guy for 1 hr cubing may have more stamina for the 24 hr cubing. > > I don't think that too many ppl are gonna attempt to break the > record anyway. And most likely next attempt will be in europe ... ?? > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao > <tmao@> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some > type > > of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > > cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > have > > time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a > good > > shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial > work > > of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > > > > I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > > revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's > commitments > > to other aspects of their lives. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > > > Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > that > > > if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > > > provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > >> > > >> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it > all > > > up... > > >> > > >> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > or 3 > > >> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it > will > > >> also add that competitive edge to it. > > >> > > >> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be > able to > > > do > > >> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > > > counters > > >> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit > for > > >> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > > > extent. > > >> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of > this...but > > > to > > >> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting > credit > > > for > > >> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes > a > > > lot > > >> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put > yourself > > >> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > getgo, > > >> as Per said... > > >> > > >> Craig > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2083. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 10:31:08 -0000

Maybe, a middle-way can be to do an average of 500 or 1000 and see how you're feeling. I'm sure most cubers will be really excausted, but if there is a fast cuber that feels that he/she can go on after that many cubes, he/she maybe can be qualified for breaking the record!? /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > > the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > > themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > > 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > > help you? > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > > > I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > > > do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > > > you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > > > its not all one person saying I want to do this... > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Stefan, > > >> > > >> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some type > > >> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > > >> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > > >> have > > >> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > > >> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial work > > >> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > > >> > > >> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > > >> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's commitments > > >> to other aspects of their lives. > > >> > > >> Tyson Mao > > >> Astrophysics '06 > > >> California Institute of Technology > > >> > > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > >> > > >>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > that > > >>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > > >>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > > >>> > > >>> Cheers! > > >>> Stefan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > >>> <logitewty@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > > >>> up... > > >>>> > > >>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > or 3 > > >>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > > >>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > > >>>> > > >>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able to > > >>> do > > >>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > > >>> counters > > >>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit for > > >>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > > >>> extent. > > >>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > > >>> to > > >>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > > >>> for > > >>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > > >>> lot > > >>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put yourself > > >>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > getgo, > > >>>> as Per said... > > >>>> > > >>>> Craig > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2084. Re: [Speed cubing group] Finnish cubing
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:11:52 +0100

Hi Anssi, Why so silent? Are you ill? Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Finnish cubing Yes, but I'm saving my feetcube for competition.
2085. Marathons
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:31:18 -0000

Don't you think that 24 hours is too much (competitor + organization)? Unless you need to ruin your health, I feel that a 1-hour cube marathon could be a good format. It would require fewer people / competitor, allowing more competitors to race at the same time. It could even be a side event in a competition, media would like it. Gilles.
2086. Re: Marathons
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:57:54 -0000

Yes.. I like the idea of having competetive marathons, Gilles. It will take al lot of organisation, though, so this is only a good idea if a lot of people like the idea. But I would love to try it. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > Don't you think that 24 hours is too much (competitor + organization)? > Unless you need to ruin your health, I feel that a 1-hour cube marathon > could be a good format. > It would require fewer people / competitor, allowing more competitors to > race at the same time. > It could even be a side event in a competition, media would like it. > > Gilles. >
2087. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:38:45 -0000

You said that you needed 10 people to do this...If I were to do it unofficially then I would need 10 people to do the same duties... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Why do you need 10 people? You just need people to scramble cubes for > you. They can count as well. > > Basically, you're not willing to put for the effort to even practice > something once and you want us to organize everything for you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > >> the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > >> themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > >> 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > >> help you? > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > >>> do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > >>> you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > >>> its not all one person saying I want to do this... > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Stefan, > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some > >>>> type > >>>> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > >>>> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > >>>> have > >>>> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > >>>> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial > >>>> work > >>>> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > >>>> > >>>> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > >>>> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's > >>>> commitments > >>>> to other aspects of their lives. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Mao > >>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > > that > >>>>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > >>>>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers! > >>>>> Stefan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > >>>>> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > >>>>> up... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > > or 3 > >>>>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >>>>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able > >>>>>> to > >>>>> do > >>>>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > >>>>> counters > >>>>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > >>>>> extent. > >>>>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > >>>>> to > >>>>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > >>>>> for > >>>>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > >>>>> lot > >>>>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put > >>>>>> yourself > >>>>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > > getgo, > >>>>>> as Per said... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Craig > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2088. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 12:50:02 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Maybe you haven´t noticed it in the UK but there is an UE standard for writing dates: YYYY-MM-DD. Have missed out on that, but I see that it is consistent with the UE standard for writing EU. Mike
2089. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:08:44 -0000

Ah, yes, I've found it now. For the benefit of any other unenlightened Brits, this is good old EN 28601. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > Maybe you haven´t noticed it in the UK but there is an UE standard > for writing dates: YYYY-MM-DD. > > Have missed out on that, but I see that it is consistent with the UE > standard for writing EU. > > Mike >
2090. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:12:52 +0100

The age! The age! (Somebody said he was "nitpicker"). ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:50 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Maybe you haven´t noticed it in the UK but there is an UE standard for writing dates: YYYY-MM-DD. Have missed out on that, but I see that it is consistent with the UE standard for writing EU. Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
2091. SV: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Terje Kristensen" <terje.kristensen@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:57:34 +0100

This discussion is getting quite annoying, and i dont get the problems here. A few ppl has put a lot of effort into helping someone attempt a cube record, and that is great. It was a great achievement, and everyone applaud the record, and the helpers, right ? The record was a lot of hard work, both for Brent and for all the ppl helping. Can everyone agree on that one also ? If any of you were to attempt to run a marathon, 42 K, they would probably train a bit and attempt to run atleast 20 K as a preparation for the marathon, right ? So then why is it so hard to grasp the concept that in order to attempt a 24 hours cube marathon, one try to cube for quite a few hours, preferably 12 hours to see if they have the stamina. Of course if would be nice to have a few scramblers, but as i see it, just solving and scrambling the cubes yourself for 12 hours should give you a good idea if you are able to do a genuine record attempt. And I have always regarded the cube community as a lot of open minded friendly ppl, so I just cant see why this discussion has escalated this way. Regards Terje -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] På vegne av Craig Bouchard Sendt: 21. februar 2006 13:39 Til: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Emne: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) You said that you needed 10 people to do this...If I were to do it unofficially then I would need 10 people to do the same duties... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Why do you need 10 people? You just need people to scramble cubes for > you. They can count as well. > > Basically, you're not willing to put for the effort to even practice > something once and you want us to organize everything for you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > >> the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > >> themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > >> 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > >> help you? > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > >>> do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > >>> you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > >>> its not all one person saying I want to do this... > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Stefan, > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some > >>>> type > >>>> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > >>>> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > >>>> have > >>>> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > >>>> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial > >>>> work > >>>> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > >>>> > >>>> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > >>>> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's > >>>> commitments > >>>> to other aspects of their lives. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Mao > >>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > > that > >>>>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > >>>>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers! > >>>>> Stefan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > >>>>> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > >>>>> up... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > > or 3 > >>>>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >>>>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able > >>>>>> to > >>>>> do > >>>>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > >>>>> counters > >>>>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > >>>>> extent. > >>>>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > >>>>> to > >>>>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > >>>>> for > >>>>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > >>>>> lot > >>>>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put > >>>>>> yourself > >>>>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > > getgo, > >>>>>> as Per said... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Craig > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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2092. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:15:42 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > The age! The age! (Somebody said he was "nitpicker"). Sadly, that's undeniable: I found a headlouse in my hair only the other day. (True.)
2093. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:59:18 +0100

Have you tried NITMIX? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > The age! The age! (Somebody said he was "nitpicker"). Sadly, that's undeniable: I found a headlouse in my hair only the other day. (True.) Yahoo! Groups Links
2094. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:13:45 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Have you tried NITMIX? No, I have another product at hand (also good) which I recently treated a daughter with. "My" louse was picked up then, no doubt.
2095. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: DIY Center pieces
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:26:35 -0500

I traced the center cap on notebook paper and cut that out. The paper square is slightly larger than the center cap, as tends to happen wh en you trace something. Then I cut the corners off the paper square to make an octagon. This was very quick and has worked well. I think a thicker paper would have worked better, as the caps do sometimes pop off if I drop the cube. But they stay on just great otherwise, and I can easily take them off with my fingernails if I need to adjust the springs. On 2/20/06, cantspelwright <cantspelwright@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > Cut a piece of paper square so that it is roughly the same size as > > the center (including the thickness of the walls). Put it over the > > opening. Then put the cap on, pressing the paper evenly on all four > > sides as you push the cap in. The tension created by wedging the > > paper holds the cap in place quite nicely. Be careful if you lube, > > not to get the paper wet. Silicon-soaked paper doesn't work as well! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" > > <cantspelwright@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The new 2006 ones stay on with a square piece of paper wedged > > under > > > > the cap. The old ones I always had to glue. > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cantspelwright" > > > > <cantspelwright@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Anyone find a way to keep them on without gluing them and such? > > > > > > > > > > > > I bought mine at the end of Janurary, and hints in where/how to > > wedge > > > this paper underneath? > > > > > > Thanks a ton! for the past month I've had tape on them and it was all > annoying > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2096. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 15:51:27 +0100

I think the comparison between standard and cube marathon is not correct. If you run 20 or 42 km, you do it in daytime when you brain is fresh (if it is relevant). If you cube 12 h, your brain is (more or less) fresh (which Is relevent). But what will happen after 16-17 h? You will never get to know, if you so repeat your 12-hour training a 100 times. I think One method to get an answer could be the following: Live and act as usually during daytime. After 15-16 hours you get tired and will go to bed. Don´t! Start cubing and go on for some 8 hours. Now you´ll get an approximate answer on how you would react in the end of a cube marathon. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terje Kristensen" <terje.kristensen@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: SV: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) This discussion is getting quite annoying, and i dont get the problems here. A few ppl has put a lot of effort into helping someone attempt a cube record, and that is great. It was a great achievement, and everyone applaud the record, and the helpers, right ? The record was a lot of hard work, both for Brent and for all the ppl helping. Can everyone agree on that one also ? If any of you were to attempt to run a marathon, 42 K, they would probably train a bit and attempt to run atleast 20 K as a preparation for the marathon, right ? So then why is it so hard to grasp the concept that in order to attempt a 24 hours cube marathon, one try to cube for quite a few hours, preferably 12 hours to see if they have the stamina. Of course if would be nice to have a few scramblers, but as i see it, just solving and scrambling the cubes yourself for 12 hours should give you a good idea if you are able to do a genuine record attempt. And I have always regarded the cube community as a lot of open minded friendly ppl, so I just cant see why this discussion has escalated this way. Regards Terje -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] På vegne av Craig Bouchard Sendt: 21. februar 2006 13:39 Til: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Emne: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) You said that you needed 10 people to do this...If I were to do it unofficially then I would need 10 people to do the same duties... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Why do you need 10 people? You just need people to scramble cubes for > you. They can count as well. > > Basically, you're not willing to put for the effort to even practice > something once and you want us to organize everything for you? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:50 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > But even in the unofficial setting you need 10 people...You can't do > > all the scrambles yourself, and still have the same effect, and also > > it may be considered that you are cheating and doing the scrambles > > backwards...doing it unofficially and officially are the same, except > > 1 is recognized, and the other isn't... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I guess the way I feel is that people should be willing to go through > >> the inconvenience of trying the record in an unofficial setting for > >> themselves before bothering an entire cubing team and inconveniencing > >> 10 people. If you aren't willing to put in the effort, why should we > >> help you? > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > >> > >>> I agree 100%, not just anyone should prance around trying this, but I > >>> do disagree that people should have to do it before hand...Of course, > >>> you guys can use your discretion on who you will let do it too...so, > >>> its not all one person saying I want to do this... > >>> > >>> Craig > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi Stefan, > >>>> > >>>> Yeah, that's basically the idea. I mean... we have to have some > >>>> type > >>>> of standard right? We don't have enough time to give every single > >>>> cube-solve out there a chance at this record. We especially don't > >>>> have > >>>> time to let people "try it" just for fun, if they don't have a good > >>>> shot at doing this. A record attempt like this is not a trivial > >>>> work > >>>> of organization for us and is very disruptive to our lives. > >>>> > >>>> I agree, world records are meant to be broken. But nobody's life > >>>> revolves around cubing, and we need to respect everyone's > >>>> commitments > >>>> to other aspects of their lives. > >>>> > >>>> Tyson Mao > >>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 20, 2006, at 4:57 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Could it be what Tyson and Shelley actually tried to say is just > > that > >>>>> if you want *them* to host your record attempt then you need to > >>>>> provide some proof it'll be worth their time? > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers! > >>>>> Stefan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > >>>>> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Well, I've sat back and waited to post, and I'll try to sum it all > >>>>> up... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why not get multiple people to try it at the same time...Like 2 > > or 3 > >>>>>> people, as long as they supply the scramblers (as you say) it will > >>>>>> also add that competitive edge to it. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> And about the doing it Unofficially first...You wouldn't be able > >>>>>> to > >>>>> do > >>>>>> this, because, as you said, it would take the scramblers, the > >>>>> counters > >>>>>> and everything for officially, you just wouldn't get the credit > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> it...I can understand why you would say this, but only to some > >>>>> extent. > >>>>>> Maybe try a few hours, or something along the lines of this...but > >>>>> to > >>>>>> ask someone to do the 24 hours on their own without getting credit > >>>>> for > >>>>>> it. Its a good idea, but unreasonable. As you said this takes a > >>>>> lot > >>>>>> of time to organize/do, so why do it unofficially, and put > >>>>>> yourself > >>>>>> through it twice, and not go for it officially right from the > > getgo, > >>>>>> as Per said... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Craig > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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2097. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:11:58 +0100

Sorry, I´m not an expert in this field. Our little friends seem to have been exterminated here in the middle forties. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:13 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Have you tried NITMIX? No, I have another product at hand (also good) which I recently treated a daughter with. "My" louse was picked up then, no doubt. Yahoo! Groups Links
2098. [Speed cubing group] (off topic) P. humanus capitis -- was 3.14159...
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:13:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Our little friends seem to have been exterminated here in the middle forties. I have a field guide on insects which tells me that headlice are "rare" in the UK. So much for the fieldguide -- the author should visit a British primary school! My mother (now 75) was checked for them regularly (at school and at home), but says that she never knew anyone who had them. Nowadays there is less awareness of the problem (no checking at school, AFAIK), even though most children get infested at some point: all 3 of mine have had them. So: the headlouse is possibly extinct in Sweden, but thriving in the UK. Does anyone know what the situation is elsewhere in Europe? Mike
2099. Re: [Speed cubing group] (off topic) P. humanus capitis -- was 3.14159...
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:34:17 +0100

I must say I was a bit axaggerating. In any case we have got them back - as immigrants (on immigrants). ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] (off topic) P. humanus capitis -- was 3.14159... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Our little friends seem to have been exterminated here in the middle forties. I have a field guide on insects which tells me that headlice are "rare" in the UK. So much for the fieldguide -- the author should visit a British primary school! My mother (now 75) was checked for them regularly (at school and at home), but says that she never knew anyone who had them. Nowadays there is less awareness of the problem (no checking at school, AFAIK), even though most children get infested at some point: all 3 of mine have had them. So: the headlouse is possibly extinct in Sweden, but thriving in the UK. Does anyone know what the situation is elsewhere in Europe? Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
2100. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Marathons
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:00:46 +0000 (GMT)

That's a good idea, Gilles. Maybe when I get a little faster (and stronger...and older...and richer) and go to competitions I'll take part on that kind of event. Pedro Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> escreveu: Yes.. I like the idea of having competetive marathons, Gilles. It will take al lot of organisation, though, so this is only a good idea if a lot of people like the idea. But I would love to try it. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > Don't you think that 24 hours is too much (competitor + organization)? > Unless you need to ruin your health, I feel that a 1-hour cube marathon > could be a good format. > It would require fewer people / competitor, allowing more competitors to > race at the same time. > It could even be a side event in a competition, media would like it. > > Gilles. > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@...m Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2101. Very important update to my site!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:19:54 -0000

Hello guys, I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... In my view one of the best updates ever, especially because there are not somany websites that explain how to use commutators to solve puzzles. I think my tutorial is quite easy to read, especially for experienced cubers. www.solvethecube.co.uk Enjoy! - Joël.
2102. [Speed cubing group] Re: Marathons
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:38:12 -0000

Tyson suggested this format. Proposing such a race in all competitions for many competitors is not possible. Too many people would be required. But in a big competition, if let's say 3 top speed-cubers with about the same skills want to race each others and break records, that would be a nice show. I'm talking about this because 1 hour rewards consistency, but with a much narrower time frame, whereas 24 hours is more about stamina, and that's not what I prefer personally (I don't read the Guiness book). Another kind of race would be cool and easier to organize for a larger number of competitors. 10 (or at least 5) identically scrambled cubes per competitor. Standard timing, no-inspection protocol, with 1 cover on the cubes before the timer starts. Gilles. PS: We would need a scrambling machine! An army of DeepCube(TM) robots! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > That's a good idea, Gilles. Maybe when I get a little faster (and stronger...and older...and richer) and go to competitions I'll take part on that kind of event. > > Pedro > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> escreveu: > Yes.. I like the idea of having competetive marathons, Gilles. It will > take al lot of organisation, though, so this is only a good idea if a > lot of people like the idea. But I would love to try it. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > > > > > Don't you think that 24 hours is too much (competitor + > organization)? > > Unless you need to ruin your health, I feel that a 1-hour cube > marathon > > could be a good format. > > It would require fewer people / competitor, allowing more > competitors to > > race at the same time. > > It could even be a side event in a competition, media would like it. > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2103. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:56:29 -0000

Very cool tutorial. Btw, I just started learning OLL and found that your OLL page is very nice and actually enabled me to learn a lot faster the algorithms! I would recommend it to anyone who wants to learn a 2-look LL. Nice job at keeping your site updated. Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hello guys, > > I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... In > my view one of the best updates ever, especially because there are not > somany websites that explain how to use commutators to solve puzzles. > I think my tutorial is quite easy to read, especially for experienced > cubers. > > www.solvethecube.co.uk > > Enjoy! > > - Joël. >
2104. Re: solve blindfold! =)
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:00:33 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller- nicolato <maltmn@...> wrote: > > whooppy do. i can solve a cube blindfold... but > unfortunatly, i can only do it if the peices are > permuted but not oriented. i am working on > permutation.. meow... can anyone give me a good site > to solving a cube blindfolded thats like really good > and stuff... step by step instructions ... i gues... > yea.... meow... im kinda shy too... meow... prrrr..... > > im too cool for y'all!!! > > i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato > This post got progressively more weird as I read through it, but I can confirm that this means you can't solve the cube blindfolded in general, but only a small subset of cases. On the other hand, your post seems to indicate you may have a good chance of becoming the first lycanthrope to solve the cube blindfolded. I could point you to some sites that would help you with the orientation, but you might be too cool for them. > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2105. Re: [Speed cubing group] solve blindfold! =)
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:06:03 -0000

Orientation doesn't exist... If you use Stefan Pochmann's BLD method: http://www.stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/blindsolving/3x3/ I think solving orientation and permutation at the same time is the future of BLD cubing, btw. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller- nicolato <maltmn@...> wrote: > > whooppy do. i can solve a cube blindfold... but > unfortunatly, i can only do it if the peices are > permuted but not oriented. i am working on > permutation.. meow... can anyone give me a good site > to solving a cube blindfolded thats like really good > and stuff... step by step instructions ... i gues... > yea.... meow... im kinda shy too... meow... prrrr..... > > im too cool for y'all!!! > > i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2106. Re: [Speed cubing group] solve blindfold! =)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:15:34 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Orientation doesn't exist... If you use Stefan Pochmann's BLD method: Well, it does exist, though only for the already correctly permuted cubies. But that guy is too cool for me and my method anyway. Cheers! Stefan
2107. Brent's 24 hours
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:21:10 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? You can see he had blue, orange and white on the back face here: http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/brent_counter.JPG So if he used standard BOY then I'd say cube orientation was not fixed at all. Cheers! Stefan
2108. Re: [Speed cubing group] solve blindfold! =)
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:28:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Orientation doesn't exist... If you use Stefan Pochmann's BLD > method: > > Well, it does exist, though only for the already correctly permuted > cubies. > > But that guy is too cool for me and my method anyway. > > Cheers! > Stefan > Well.. For the correctly permuted pieces: you can also think of a twisted corner as a three-cycle of stickers... If you use the 'pure' version of your method ;). - Joël.
2109. Re: solve blindfold! =)
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 18:33:02 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > permutation.. meow... can anyone give me a good site > > yea.... meow... im kinda shy too... meow... prrrr..... > > your post seems to indicate you may have a good > chance of becoming the first lycanthrope to solve the cube > blindfolded. I'm sorry, but lycanthropes don't purr or miaow: they /howl/ when the moon is full, which it isn't right now. But this might instead be a friend or associate of the puzzling Mr Dennis Abner: http://tinyurl.com/9869a I don't know whether Mr Abner can solve BLD. Mike
2110. 1980 cube
From: "ericdstalter" <ericdstalter@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:26:50 -0000

I just got a 1980 Ideal Hollis cube off of eBay for $2, but I just realized that on speedcubing.com that is a cube NOT recommended for speedcubing...why? bad quality? no screw? etc? I don't have it yet, I will have the cube soon. Anyone no why the bad recommendation?
2111. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 11:52:07 -0800 (PST)

Hey Rune- No, the cube had to be random every single time, so each cube was a different color on top each time. -Brent M Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:24 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) > Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he > have scramblers? Or did he scramble himself? Cause seriously, that's > 39.96 seconds per cube which would be quite slow if you had people > scrambling for you. So, who knows? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2112. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:19:12 +0100

I see. Just one question. Don´t you think you started in too high a speed? Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Morgan" <brentmorganmaster@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) Hey Rune- No, the cube had to be random every single time, so each cube was a different color on top each time. -Brent M Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:24 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) > Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he > have scramblers? Or did he scramble himself? Cause seriously, that's > 39.96 seconds per cube which would be quite slow if you had people > scrambling for you. So, who knows? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
2113. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:15:10 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hello guys, > > I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... Hi Joel, very nice, I like it a lot. But of course I have to write some suggestions/comments anyway :-) - To show the commutator structure and the "little overlapping" rule I like to compare "shoe off, sock off, shoe on, sock on" with "shoe off glove off, shoe on, glove on". - On the cube the "little overlapping" becomes nicely visible if you take the T-perm as P, and for Q first use D, then L, then U. Shows how larger overlap results in larger effects. - Example 1: (B L2 B' R B L2 B' R') has the nice alternative solution (R' U L' U' R U L U'). - Can you give unique numbers to all examples to make referring to them easier? - What's (P = R'UL' and Q = U') supposed to do? - For the 4x4 applets, I'm sure there's a way to turn the algorithm display off, but I don't remember how right now. - (P = l r' u2 l' r') should be (P = l r' u2 l' r) - Why always only outer slice turns for Q, never inner slice turns? For example (U R' U') M' (U R U') M. Also results in a nice alg with setup move R: (R U R' U' M' U R U' r'). Inner slice turns for Q is also very helpful for 4x4. - Gosh did I have a sunburn. Cheers! Stefan
2114. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:19:25 -0000

Also, Brent, what was your goal before you started? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I see. Just one question. Don´t you think you started in too high a speed? > Rune > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brent Morgan" <brentmorganmaster@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) > > > Hey Rune- No, the cube had to be random every single time, so each cube was a different color on top each time. > -Brent M > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top?
2115. Re: [Speed cubing group] Brent's 24 hours
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 20:56:40 +0100

A chosen snapshot? The combination here excludes even the possibility of "one of two certain complement colours on top". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:21 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Brent's 24 hours --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? You can see he had blue, orange and white on the back face here: http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/brent_counter.JPG So if he used standard BOY then I'd say cube orientation was not fixed at all. Cheers! Stefan Yahoo! Groups Links
2116. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:02:05 -0000

Hey Stefan, Thanks! I guess you're right about most things.. I'll try to make the adjustments soon. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hello guys, > > > > I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... > > Hi Joel, > > very nice, I like it a lot. But of course I have to write some > suggestions/comments anyway :-) > > - To show the commutator structure and the "little overlapping" rule I > like to compare "shoe off, sock off, shoe on, sock on" with "shoe off > glove off, shoe on, glove on". > > - On the cube the "little overlapping" becomes nicely visible if you > take the T-perm as P, and for Q first use D, then L, then U. Shows how > larger overlap results in larger effects. > > - Example 1: (B L2 B' R B L2 B' R') has the nice alternative solution > (R' U L' U' R U L U'). > > - Can you give unique numbers to all examples to make referring to > them easier? > > - What's (P = R'UL' and Q = U') supposed to do? > > - For the 4x4 applets, I'm sure there's a way to turn the algorithm > display off, but I don't remember how right now. > > - (P = l r' u2 l' r') should be (P = l r' u2 l' r) > > - Why always only outer slice turns for Q, never inner slice turns? > For example (U R' U') M' (U R U') M. Also results in a nice alg with > setup move R: (R U R' U' M' U R U' r'). Inner slice turns for Q is > also very helpful for 4x4. > > - Gosh did I have a sunburn. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2117. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:32:22 -0800 (PST)

I don't think so... I was going relativity smooth/slow as it was. I just went slower as time went on :-p... -Brent M Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: I see. Just one question. Don´t you think you started in too high a speed? Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Morgan" <brentmorganmaster@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) Hey Rune- No, the cube had to be random every single time, so each cube was a different color on top each time. -Brent M Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@....se> wrote: How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 2:24 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) > Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he > have scramblers? Or did he scramble himself? Cause seriously, that's > 39.96 seconds per cube which would be quite slow if you had people > scrambling for you. So, who knows? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2118. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 13:33:53 -0800 (PST)

I was thinking of 4001 when i started. For the first 8 hours or so, i was at the rate of doing 4100-4200 or something... but when i hit the 2001 mark at 8 minutes slow of 12 hours, then i decided to change my plans... -Brent M Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Also, Brent, what was your goal before you started? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I see. Just one question. Don´t you think you started in too high a speed? > Rune > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brent Morgan" <brentmorganmaster@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies) > > > Hey Rune- No, the cube had to be random every single time, so each cube was a different color on top each time. > -Brent M > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2119. Re: solve blindfold! =)
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 21:35:32 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > permutation.. meow... can anyone give me a good site > > > yea.... meow... im kinda shy too... meow... prrrr..... > > > > your post seems to indicate you may have a good > > chance of becoming the first lycanthrope to solve the cube > > blindfolded. > > I'm sorry, but lycanthropes don't purr or miaow: they /howl/ when the > moon is full, which it isn't right now. > I was referring to a werecat not a werewolf though. > But this might instead be a friend or associate of the puzzling Mr > Dennis Abner: http://tinyurl.com/9869a > > I don't know whether Mr Abner can solve BLD. > > Mike >
2120. Heuristic Algorithm?
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:02:34 -0000

I have a problem that I have to solve that's very similar (I assume) to solving a rubik's cube. It's a finite state machine with a large number of states, a few number of possible moves, and one solved state. It has considerably fewer than a rubik's cube though, only 3^16. Initally I used a depth first search, and I don't know how long God's algorithm for this will be, but from empirical tests, it's more than I can solve efficiently. I've been looking all over the internet to try to find a clear explaination of the algorithm used to solve the cube. All I can find is that it is a heuristic algorithm, nothing more. If anyone knows how to implement this algorithm or can direct me to a page that can tell me, that would be great. -Ben.
2121. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:25:31 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > [...] > - Why always only outer slice turns for Q, never inner slice turns? > For example (U R' U') M' (U R U') M. > [...] U2 M U2' M' ?
2122. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: solve blindfold! =)
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:34:12 -0800 (PST)

im just a fuzzy wiw kitty yea fuzzy mmhhmmmmm prrrr rowr meow? ftttt! prrrr...... my cat plays the guitar. im just too cool for y'all, yup... --- GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > GameOfDeath2 > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > permutation.. meow... can anyone give me a > good site > > > > yea.... meow... im kinda shy too... meow... > prrrr..... > > > > > > your post seems to indicate you may have a good > > > chance of becoming the first lycanthrope to > solve the cube > > > blindfolded. > > > > I'm sorry, but lycanthropes don't purr or miaow: > they /howl/ when the > > moon is full, which it isn't right now. > > > > I was referring to a werecat not a werewolf though. > > > But this might instead be a friend or associate of > the puzzling Mr > > Dennis Abner: http://tinyurl.com/9869a > > > > I don't know whether Mr Abner can solve BLD. > > > > Mike > > > > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2123. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:35:36 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > [...] > > - Why always only outer slice turns for Q, never inner slice turns? > > For example (U R' U') M' (U R U') M. > > [...] > > U2 M U2' M' ? > Yeah I know, but that one doesn't really fit into Joel's "single piece overlap" idea that runs throughout his tutorial... Cheers! Stefan
2124. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:52:36 -0000

I did think about adding that one... But a lot of people will probably find that one by themselves... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > - Why always only outer slice turns for Q, never inner slice > turns? > > > For example (U R' U') M' (U R U') M. > > > [...] > > > > U2 M U2' M' ? > > > > Yeah I know, but that one doesn't really fit into Joel's "single piece > overlap" idea that runs throughout his tutorial... > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2125. Re: [Speed cubing group] Very important update to my site!!
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:56:47 +1100

On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:19:54PM -0000, Jo�l van Noort wrote: > I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... In > my view one of the best updates ever, especially because there are not > somany websites that explain how to use commutators to solve puzzles. > I think my tutorial is quite easy to read, especially for experienced > cubers. Regarding the 9 basic corner commutators and their conjugates, they are also described here, but with a different mental process: http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~rheise/cube/step3.html The goal was to develop a thought process (or a way of thinking) that could be effective in speedcubing. There is more I could write now, although I haven't really updated the page since first publishing it. The site as a whole describes a method for solving the cube "move-by-move", i.e. without any fixed or memorised sequences, that also achieves a low move count and supports fast recognition. It's a rather long term development, but I hope that it will pay off in the end. Ryan
2126. [Speed cubing group] Re: Marathons
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 22:59:32 -0000

Hi All :-) Personally i think only timed solving of 42 cubes, consecutively without inspection, should be called cubing marathon because the number 42 is involved. 42 cubes to be solved ;-) Those other 2 categories should simply be called 1hr cubing and 24 hr cubing, so as not to confuse these 3 very different categories of cubing. Then there could also be 5 hr cubing, 12 hr cubing. So easy system :D Just my 2 NOK :-P -Per- > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > Tyson suggested this format. > Proposing such a race in all competitions for many competitors is not > possible. Too many people would be required. > But in a big competition, if let's say 3 top speed-cubers with about > the same skills want to race each others and break records, that would > be a nice show. > > I'm talking about this because 1 hour rewards consistency, but with a > much narrower time frame, whereas 24 hours is more about stamina, and > that's not what I prefer personally (I don't read the Guiness book). > > Another kind of race would be cool and easier to organize for a larger > number of competitors. 10 (or at least 5) identically scrambled cubes > per competitor. Standard timing, no-inspection protocol, with 1 cover > on the cubes before the timer starts. > > Gilles. > > PS: We would need a scrambling machine! An army of DeepCube(TM) robots! > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@> > wrote: > > > > That's a good idea, Gilles. Maybe when I get a little faster (and > stronger...and older...and richer) and go to competitions I'll take > part on that kind of event. > > > > Pedro > > > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@> escreveu: > > Yes.. I like the idea of having competetive marathons, Gilles. It > will > > take al lot of organisation, though, so this is only a good idea if a > > lot of people like the idea. But I would love to try it. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > > <grrroux@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Don't you think that 24 hours is too much (competitor + > > organization)? > > > Unless you need to ruin your health, I feel that a 1-hour cube > > marathon > > > could be a good format. > > > It would require fewer people / competitor, allowing more > > competitors to > > > race at the same time. > > > It could even be a side event in a competition, media would like it. > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2127. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:23:01 -0000

Looks interesting Ryan... It would also be cool to have a 'thought proces' that will make this usefull in BLD cubing.. In Stefan Pochmann's method, I can often succesfully apply commutators, solving 2 edges (orientation and permutation) at once in a lot of cases. For corners however, it is much harder... - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:19:54PM -0000, Joël van Noort wrote: > > I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... In > > my view one of the best updates ever, especially because there are not > > somany websites that explain how to use commutators to solve puzzles. > > I think my tutorial is quite easy to read, especially for experienced > > cubers. > > Regarding the 9 basic corner commutators and their conjugates, they are > also described here, but with a different mental process: > > http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/~rheise/cube/step3.html > > The goal was to develop a thought process (or a way of thinking) that > could be effective in speedcubing. There is more I could write now, > although I haven't really updated the page since first publishing it. > > The site as a whole describes a method for solving the cube > "move-by-move", i.e. without any fixed or memorised sequences, that also > achieves a low move count and supports fast recognition. It's a rather > long term development, but I hope that it will pay off in the end. > > Ryan >
2128. Re: Heuristic Algorithm?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:27:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > I have a problem that I have to solve that's very similar (I assume) to > solving a rubik's cube. > > It's a finite state machine with a large number of states, a few number > of possible moves, and one solved state. It has considerably fewer than > a rubik's cube though, only 3^16. > > Initally I used a depth first search, and I don't know how long God's > algorithm for this will be, but from empirical tests, it's more than I > can solve efficiently. > > I've been looking all over the internet to try to find a clear > explaination of the algorithm used to solve the cube. All I can find > is that it is a heuristic algorithm, nothing more. > > If anyone knows how to implement this algorithm or can direct me to a > page that can tell me, that would be great. > > -Ben. Unless your task is really ugly or your computer is from stone age, I'd suggest using breadth first search. Cheers! Stefan
2129. mefferts 4x4 and megaminx question
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 16:07:31 -0800 (PST)

Just got my 4x4 minicube and megaminx from mefferts today. 4x4 is difficult to move... megaminx is very hard to move, gets stuck very easily, and is extremely prone to popping pieces constantly... my question: is this normal? will it improve, and to what extent do I just need to "get used to" these different puzzles? Thanks! David ps-where's an easy solution to the megaminx? my friend mixed it up and now i can't solve it.. was able to do one layer only -_-; thanks --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2130. Re: mefferts 4x4 and megaminx question
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:36:01 -0000

See my recent posts (and Stefan's helpful replies) about the Megaminx mech. I have links to photos. Once you take it apart, you will probably notice that some centers are looser than others. You can remove the center cap and adjust the screw. That should fix the popping. Then go ahead and lube both puzzles with just a few drops of silicone oil (or spray if you prefer). The Eastsheen 4x4x4 (Meffert Mini) mechanism is less forgiving than a Rubik 4x4x4 for alignment, but will turn very smoothly when lubed. I can solve it in about the same time (Rubik or Eastsheen) but you do have to adapt your finger technique slightly to each version. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Just got my 4x4 minicube and megaminx from mefferts today. 4x4 is difficult to move... megaminx is very hard to move, gets stuck very easily, and is extremely prone to popping pieces constantly... > > my question: is this normal? will it improve, and to what extent do I just need to "get used to" these different puzzles? > > Thanks! > > David > > ps-where's an easy solution to the megaminx? my friend mixed it up and now i can't solve it.. was able to do one layer only -_-; thanks > > > --------------------------------- > Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2131. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:42:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did he > have scramblers? I remembered Jess isn't dead either, so I emailed him and he said a friend scrambled for him. Now I've asked for the reason he was so much slower than expected. Cheers! Stefan
2132. [Speed cubing group] Re: Cube Mile
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:26:27 -0000

Man, she got a sub-15 average too! -_- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Matt Moberly <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > What is meant by "this week's SC"? How would one check it out? > > On 2/16/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > actually...if you haven't checked this > > > week's SC...check it out...Casey is GOD!!! > > > > What the f**k?? Is she on some kind of drug? > > I want that stuff, too! Dude... impressive. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2133. Re: 1980 cube
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:38:15 -0000

possibly bias. well, it looks like hungarian cubes are best, but heck, whatever. these can't be that bad. it seems the regular rubik's cubes are getting progressively cheaper and crappier, but some that I bought a few months ago work fairly well.. and of course some don't.. just my two cents.. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "ericdstalter" <ericdstalter@...> wrote: > > I just got a 1980 Ideal Hollis cube off of eBay for $2, but I just > realized that on speedcubing.com that is a cube NOT recommended for > speedcubing...why? bad quality? no screw? etc? I don't have it yet, I > will have the cube soon. Anyone no why the bad recommendation? >
2134. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:45:15 -0800

I honestly think that the answer is just fatigue. Also, Jess didn't really have much motivation because there was no previous record. Pushing yourself through that type of exhaustion without motivation is very difficult. As any person who runs track or cross-country or any type of racing sport, at the end when the body is completely filled with lactic acid, you're not really going to move any faster unless someone is cashing you down or unless you're trying to pass someone. Without the motivation, it's hard to justify in your own mind the pain that you're feeling. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 21, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did > he >> have scramblers? > > I remembered Jess isn't dead either, so I emailed him and he said a > friend scrambled for him. Now I've asked for the reason he was so much > slower than expected. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2135. [Speed cubing group] Re: Homeworks at Caltech (was 24-hour policies)
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:05:16 -0000

XC =D anyway.. well said =) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I honestly think that the answer is just fatigue. Also, Jess didn't > really have much motivation because there was no previous record. > Pushing yourself through that type of exhaustion without motivation is > very difficult. As any person who runs track or cross-country or any > type of racing sport, at the end when the body is completely filled > with lactic acid, you're not really going to move any faster unless > someone is cashing you down or unless you're trying to pass someone. > Without the motivation, it's hard to justify in your own mind the pain > that you're feeling. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 21, 2006, at 5:42 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > >> > >> Question about Jess Bonde's 2000 cubes in 22 hours 16 minutes: Did > > he > >> have scramblers? > > > > I remembered Jess isn't dead either, so I emailed him and he said a > > friend scrambled for him. Now I've asked for the reason he was so much > > slower than expected. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2136. Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:12:53 -0000

The video of new World Record (11.13). http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 :p
2137. Re: [Speed cubing group] Brent's 24 hours
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:18:15 +0100

Forget this post, please! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rune Wesström" <rune.wesstrom@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Brent's 24 hours A chosen snapshot? The combination here excludes even the possibility of "one of two certain complement colours on top". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 7:21 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Brent's 24 hours --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > How was it, could Brent require a certain colour on the top? You can see he had blue, orange and white on the back face here: http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/brent_counter.JPG So if he used standard BOY then I'd say cube orientation was not fixed at all. Cheers! Stefan Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
2138. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:41:38 -0800

Who took that video? Does anyone know? That's pretty cool... we have it from at least two angles now. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:12 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > :p > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2139. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:52:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Who took that video? Does anyone know? That's pretty cool... we have > it from at least two angles now. Hi, Tyson where can I get the video from other angle? could u tell me? thanks a lot!! PS: I'm Vic's friend from Taiwan. ^_^ > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:12 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > > > :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2140. Re: Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "Emanuele" <bw.project@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:48:54 -0000

Any way to download it? It doesn't seem to be a durable link. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > :p >
2141. Re: Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "linkpoke" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:11:40 -0000

Yeah, I kept on trying to find a link to download it, but there wasn't a "Save as..." on the movie. :\
2142. Re: 1980 cube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:41:59 -0000

True, some of the 2005 cubes were pretty irregular right out of the box. However, the very latest 2006 DIY cubes are probably some of the nicest parts ever manufactured. So I say they're finally getting better. Hope those parts soon make their way into Hasbro cubes. As for the 1980s cubes, they varied in quality also. Most likely it will have flat centers, so depending on your twisting style that will have implications for speedcubing. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, smgfreak_dk <no_reply@...> wrote: > whatever. these can't be that bad. it seems the regular rubik's cubes > are getting progressively cheaper and crappier, but some that I bought > a few months ago work fairly well.. and of course some don't..
2143. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:21:50 -0000

Here's a downloadable link for the clip in Windows Media format: http://tinyurl.com/gls8n Tyson, can you share the other angle? You mentioned before that the clip was temporarily inaccessible... was that situation ever fixed? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Who took that video? Does anyone know? That's pretty cool... we have > it from at least two angles now. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:12 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > > > :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2144. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:32:27 -0000

Now that is truly illogical. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rune Wesstr�m" <rune.wesstrom@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 Maybe you haven�t noticed it in the UK but there is an UE standard for writing dates: YYYY-MM-DD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > I realised after I had posted that the reason I never noticed the pi > connection to my birthday is because in the Uk we write dates logically in > increasing order of unit size - days/months/years. Doesn't look quite so > pi > like then! > > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:20 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" > > <duncan@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> I consider myself a bit of a geek but I never realised my birthday is > >> pi > >> day. > > > > Not even close to a geek then. > > > > When I was running up to the last couple of weeks I had a counter > > running > > down to my 1 > > billionth birth second. : ) > > I'd accounted for the leap seconds etc. but I was only able to nail the > > exact time down to > > +/- 60 seconds. [Time of birth is only recorded to the minute. : ( ] > > I took a lunch break so I could celebrate. > > > > Also last time I was in NY I arranged to see a friend for my 1/3 > > century. > > (Although this was > > just 33 years + 4 months rather than exactly 100/3 years. I was in the > > UK > > at the erxact > > time, which was the previous day.) > > > > And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. > > Unless you are in the > > original sideshow sense! > > > >>Problem is that outside of this community I don't know anyone who > >> would find this the least bit interesting. Well I'll just have to be > >> satisfied with my own sense of happiness on this one. > >> > >> Duncan > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> > >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 2:49 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979 > >> > >> > >> > True, though... I think most things "pi" related don't usually > >> > round... > >> > gosh, what geeks are we debating the rounding of pi! With "pi" day, > >> > it's generally on March 14, at 1:59 PM, and well, I guess you could > >> > carry it out for more decimal places, and in this case as well, > >> > rounding makes no sense. > >> > > >> > We actually had Brent do the F2L on the cube. Given it's a 7 step > >> > situation, it comes out to about .59... I think? Eh... I'm not sure. > >> > > >> > Tyson Mao > >> > Astrophysics '06 > >> > California Institute of Technology > >> > > >> > On Feb 19, 2006, at 2:56 AM, GameOfDeath2 wrote: > >> > > >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> I think Brent Morgan is going to stop after 3141 cubes. He'll > >> >>> probably > >> >>> solve half a cube after that, but exhaustion is definitely setting > >> >>> in. > >> >>> Tune into the webcast to see the finale! > >> >>> > >> >>> Tyson Mao > >> >>> Astrophysics '06 > >> >>> California Institute of Technology > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> I think that guess came a bit late in the day! > >> >> I'm kind of curious, given the subject, why not go for 3142. > >> >> Rounding > >> >> off to 3 decimal > >> >> places and multippying by 1000 would give 3142. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2145. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:41:02 -0000

> We actually had Brent do the F2L on the cube. Given it's a 7 step > situation, it comes out to about .59... I think? Eh... I'm not sure. I just saw this buried in all the pi talk. If you do the cross and 3 pairs, it comes out to 0.57. So if Brent looked ahead to the final pair (but didn't make any moves) that would make it precisely 0.59. ;-) Chris
2146. Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:47:24 -0000

I lent my 4x4x4 to a friend and got it back today broken. Would anyone be willing to sell be a lubed 4x4x4 cube? I'd like to try out another blindfold solve and the 5x5x5 is a crappy way to simulate it.
2147. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:00:53 -0500

Crappy, or impossible? How would you simulate an even-order cube with an odd one? On 2/22/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I lent my 4x4x4 to a friend and got it back today broken. Would > anyone be willing to sell be a lubed 4x4x4 cube? I'd like to try out > another blindfold solve and the 5x5x5 is a crappy way to simulate it. > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2148. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:16:51 -0000

Ignoring the centralmost slices on an odd cube and doing moves as normal simulates the even order cube one less than your current cube. But having those slices there physically makes it less than ideal as far as doing turns since they can be misaligned and block your other turns, even though they don't technically exist given the way you are perceiving the cube. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > Crappy, or impossible? How would you simulate an even-order cube with an > odd one? >
2149. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:20:52 -0000

Actually as an interesting side note given a nxnxn cube, based on how you perceive that cube, you can simulate a cube A of any size such that 1 <= A <= n and yes you can simulate the 1x1x1 cube with your 100x100x100 cube, even though that is rather silly. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > Crappy, or impossible? How would you simulate an even-order cube with an > odd one?
2150. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: "David Barr" <david20708@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:49:30 -0500

Are you sure you aren't a geek? What was your score on the Geek test (http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html)? On 2/20/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. Unless you are in the > original sideshow sense!
2151. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:55:36 -0500

Okay... so how would you split the 5x5x5 to be a 4x4x4? I don't have one in front of me, but it seems like you can't simply pair the center slice with l or r, because something like L'l' F2 Ll would force you to break the pair apart. Would you just ignore the center slices altogether? It makes sense to me that you can always pair the center slices of an even-order cube to make it odd (e.g. solving centers and edges first on a 4x4x4 and then solving as a 3x3x3), and actually end up with a solved cube in the end. But if you simulate a 4x4x4 with a 5x5x5 by ignoring center slices, at the end of your "solve" your center slices are still probably going to be screwed up, right? I guess it gets the job done... On 2/22/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Actually as an interesting side note given a nxnxn cube, based on how > you perceive that cube, you can simulate a cube A of any size such > that 1 <= A <= n and yes you can simulate the 1x1x1 cube with your > 100x100x100 cube, even though that is rather silly. > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > > > Crappy, or impossible? How would you simulate an even-order cube > with an > > odd one? > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2152. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:32:11 -0800

Do you mind if I host this on strangepuzzle? -Chris On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > :p > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2153. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:47:43 -0000

Yes, imagine the center slices have no stickers. That's effectively a 4x4x4. As for the broken one, try www.cubesmith.com for replacement parts. Rubiks.com also carries the spare parts. Finally, Toys 'R Us in the USA currently stocks the Winning Moves 4x4x4. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > apart. Would you just ignore the center slices altogether?
2154. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:49:44 +0000 (GMT)

Yes...please, Tyson, share the other angle with us... Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Here's a downloadable link for the clip in Windows Media format: http://tinyurl.com/gls8n Tyson, can you share the other angle? You mentioned before that the clip was temporarily inaccessible... was that situation ever fixed? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Who took that video? Does anyone know? That's pretty cool... we have > it from at least two angles now. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:12 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > > > :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2155. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:50:21 -0000

You're welcome to use my file, but I didn't shoot the original video. So I'd be out of line granting permission. Also, if you have a way to convert FLV to WMV without the annoying logo overlay, I'll give you the FLV file. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > Do you mind if I host this on strangepuzzle? > > -Chris > > On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > > > :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2156. Re: Anyone willing to sell me a lubed 4x4x4?
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 19:29:03 -0000

Well I was actually hoping to get a prelubed cube from someone because I don't have silicone here with me and I don't have the time to go around researching what works best and all (I don't remember what I used the first time but it wasn't ideal). And yeah I can simulate a 4x4x4 by ignoring the centralmost slices on the 5x5x5. However doing a 4x4x4 solve on a 5x5x5 is impractical and will just slow you down due to the extra slices getting in the way. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Yes, imagine the center slices have no stickers. That's effectively a > 4x4x4. > > As for the broken one, try www.cubesmith.com for replacement parts. > Rubiks.com also carries the spare parts. Finally, Toys 'R Us in the > USA currently stocks the Winning Moves 4x4x4. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > apart. Would you just ignore the center slices altogether? >
2157. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:08:20 -0800

I need to compress it, and I need to wait until Thursday. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Pedro wrote: > Yes...please, Tyson, share the other angle with us... > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > Here's a downloadable link for the clip in Windows Media format: > > http://tinyurl.com/gls8n > > Tyson, can you share the other angle? You mentioned before that the > clip was temporarily inaccessible... was that situation ever fixed? > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Who took that video? Does anyone know? That's pretty cool... we > have >> it from at least two angles now. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:12 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: >> >>> The video of new World Record (11.13). >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 >>> >>> :p >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2158. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:25:28 -0600

sadly, mine is only 39.44773% - Major Geek :( On 2/22/06, David Barr <david20708@...> wrote: > Are you sure you aren't a geek? What was your score on the Geek test > (http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html)? > > On 2/20/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. Unless you are in the > > original sideshow sense! > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2159. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:26:52 -0600

ooh... i get it. On 2/22/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > I need to compress it, and I need to wait until Thursday. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 22, 2006, at 10:49 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > Yes...please, Tyson, share the other angle with us... > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > Here's a downloadable link for the clip in Windows Media format: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/gls8n > > > > Tyson, can you share the other angle? You mentioned before that the > > clip was temporarily inaccessible... was that situation ever fixed? > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> Who took that video? Does anyone know? That's pretty cool... we > > have > >> it from at least two angles now. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 22, 2006, at 12:12 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > >> > >>> The video of new World Record (11.13). > >>> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > >>> > >>> :p > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2160. Re: 3.14159265358979
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 21:40:45 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David Barr" <david20708@...> wrote: > > Are you sure you aren't a geek? What was your score on the Geek test > (http://www.innergeek.us/geek-test.html)? > > On 2/20/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > And I'm not a geek, so not realizing that, I'd say you're not either. Unless you are in the > > original sideshow sense! > According to that test I am not a geek. I placed in the "geekish tendencies" category - about 12.28% or so. I did win geek site of the day once but it's not one of the questions. : )
2161. silicon lube
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 15:34:23 -0800 (PST)

Where do I get it? What brands are common? How much is it? I desperately need some for my 4x4 and megaminx.. thanks! David --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2162. Cube Sighting
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:39:52 -0000

There was a cube on a table during the olympics. It was scrambled (not surprising) during a curling game. It was in front of the announcers. Peter Greenwood
2163. Re: silicon lube
From: "cantspelwright" <cantspelwright@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:10:33 -0000

I found some no name brand in the Automotive area of Wal-mart. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Where do I get it? What brands are common? How much is it? > > I desperately need some for my 4x4 and megaminx.. thanks! > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2164. Re: Cube Sighting
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:12:36 -0000

Also, there is an Olympics cube (solved) sitting on top of the scrambled one. It's been there for several days. I also noticed a pair of black eyeglasses in front of both cubes (geek reference?) Maybe cubing will be an Olympic event soon... Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > There was a cube on a table during the olympics. It was scrambled (not > surprising) during a curling game. It was in front of the announcers. > > Peter Greenwood >
2165. Re: silicon lube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:14:54 -0000

I found something called "Shock Oil" at a hobby store. It's apparently used for radio control cars. It's 100% silicone oil, and comes in various weights. I like the thicker kind because it drips slowly and is not messy to apply a few drops on a puzzle. It's odorless and seems to last longer than the silicone spray. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Where do I get it? What brands are common? How much is it? > > I desperately need some for my 4x4 and megaminx.. thanks! > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2166. advanced Fridrich
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:52:38 -0800

Hi Everyone, So I've been hearing about this method of Fridrich where as you put in an F2L pair, you can easily know where the next one will be or how the F2L algorithm affects the other pieces around the cube. Are there any videos of people using this method? Isn't this how Marcus Stuhr got his 15.15 average? Marcus, I know you mentioned that you had a BLD solve on video on computer ready to be uploaded, but do you have any speed solves? It would be interesting to see your cubing style and how it affects your reaction time in terms of F2L pairs. I'm wondering if your 15.15 average was attained with hand speed, reduction of delays, or a combination of both? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2167. (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: "David Skolnik" <lockjaw17des@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 02:56:09 -0000

Hey guys, today at my high school we had the astronomer John Dobson come into my class and give us a speech and a slideshow about the universe. It was very interesting, but in the midst of it all he mentioned something about Caltech. He was talking about properties in the universe and said, "even people at Caltech don't know why inertia happens, they only know how it happens." So I was wondering if any of you Caltech students have ever come in contact with him or his organization. Sorry for the random topic, I just thought it was interesting that he mentioned Caltech. -David
2168. Re: Cube Sighting
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 03:53:02 -0000

Didn't notice the solved one before, but I saw the scrambled one a while back. The glasses may be a reference to the skip for the Italian team. He wears some dark rimmed glasses and has appearantly been rocketed to near superstardom over the course of these olympics. (He looks kinda like Rivers Cuomo IMHO). -Daniel --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Also, there is an Olympics cube (solved) sitting on top of the > scrambled one. It's been there for several days. I also noticed a > pair of black eyeglasses in front of both cubes (geek reference?) > Maybe cubing will be an Olympic event soon... > > Chris
2169. Re: [Speed cubing group] advanced Fridrich
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:23:53 +0100

Hi Tyson Actually, that's the method (or a method close to what) Sebastien Felix does (or used to do, I haven't from him in a while, I don't even know if he's still cubing, since he told me he was close to quit... anyway). I got his F2L algorithm table somewhere, some of the tricks are rather clever. I also don't know if he knew all of them (there are quite a lot, I would say 500-ish from what I remember) but I wouldn't be surprised if he did. So you might want to grab a recent video of Sebastien. Dunno if strangepuzzle's got any. François Tyson Mao a écrit : > Hi Everyone, > > So I've been hearing about this method of Fridrich where as you put in > an F2L pair, you can easily know where the next one will be or how the > F2L algorithm affects the other pieces around the cube. Are there any > videos of people using this method? Isn't this how Marcus Stuhr got > his 15.15 average? Marcus, I know you mentioned that you had a BLD > solve on video on computer ready to be uploaded, but do you have any > speed solves? It would be interesting to see your cubing style and how > it affects your reaction time in terms of F2L pairs. I'm wondering if > your 15.15 average was attained with hand speed, reduction of delays, > or a combination of both? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> > Free puzzle inlay games > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> > Educational game and puzzle > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> > > Word puzzle game > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> > Kid puzzle game > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> > Puzzle games > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2170. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:20:03 +0100

Could you tell about the various "weights"? R ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:14 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube > I found something called "Shock Oil" at a hobby store. It's > apparently used for radio control cars. It's 100% silicone oil, and > comes in various weights. I like the thicker kind because it drips > slowly and is not messy to apply a few drops on a puzzle. It's > odorless and seems to last longer than the silicone spray. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > > > Where do I get it? What brands are common? How much is it? > > > > I desperately need some for my 4x4 and megaminx.. thanks! > > > > David > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2171. Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:18:33 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David Skolnik" <lockjaw17des@...> wrote: > He was talking about properties in > the universe John Dobson is a great popularizer of astronomy. While he was a Buddhist monk he invented the Dobsonian alt-az mounting, used in many amateur "point and shoot" telescopes. But his views on the nature of the Universe are somewhat "unconventional". You can read his thoughts at http://www.johndobson.org/jarticles.html and perhaps draw your own conclusions. > "even people at Caltech don't know why inertia > happens, they only know how it happens." It's a good line, which applies to anything fundamental. If you answer a long enough chain of "Why?" questions, eventually you have to stop at something (currently!) regarded as fundamental and say: "That's just how it seems to be." So in the end, what we are left with as an "answer" to our original "Why?", is a very detailed description of /how/. Mike
2172. Re: [Speed cubing group] advanced Fridrich
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:23:39 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet <frsechet@...> wrote: > > Hi Tyson > Actually, that's the method (or a method close to what) Sebastien Felix > does (or used to do, I haven't from him in a while, I don't even know if > he's still cubing, since he told me he was close to quit... anyway). I Sébastien stopped cubing, he found another hobby: http://www.festivaldejazzdeserres.com/FRANCAIS/Artistes/nuages_de_swing.\ htm#Felix BTW, Jean has changed a bit too: http://www.jeanpons.com/ > got his F2L algorithm table somewhere, some of the tricks are rather > clever. I also don't know if he knew all of them (there are quite a lot, > I would say 500-ish from what I remember) but I wouldn't be surprised if > he did. So you might want to grab a recent video of Sebastien. Dunno if > strangepuzzle's got any. > François > > Tyson Mao a écrit : > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > So I've been hearing about this method of Fridrich where as you put in > > an F2L pair, you can easily know where the next one will be or how the > > F2L algorithm affects the other pieces around the cube. Are there any > > videos of people using this method? Isn't this how Marcus Stuhr got > > his 15.15 average? Marcus, I know you mentioned that you had a BLD > > solve on video on computer ready to be uploaded, but do you have any > > speed solves? It would be interesting to see your cubing style and how > > it affects your reaction time in terms of F2L pairs. I'm wondering if > > your 15.15 average was attained with hand speed, reduction of delays, > > or a combination of both? > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle\ +game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+\ puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJD\ BnytECiSfUCw> > > Free puzzle inlay games > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+p\ uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=\ Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0\ wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> > > Educational game and puzzle > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigs\ aw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle\ &w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3\ 7T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> > > > > Word puzzle game > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+g\ ame&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+pu\ zzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dS\ S_WgIx9QRg> > > Kid puzzle game > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+ga\ me&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puz\ zle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyI\ ak1hdhkgQ> > > Puzzle games > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&\ w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle\ +game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB\ 7KhBMA> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsub\ scribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2173. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:18:34 +0100

What is "Twisters in Texas"? Cubers? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David Skolnik" > <lockjaw17des@...> wrote: > > He was talking about properties in > > the universe > > John Dobson is a great popularizer of astronomy. While he was a > Buddhist monk he invented the Dobsonian alt-az mounting, used in many > amateur "point and shoot" telescopes. > > But his views on the nature of the Universe are > somewhat "unconventional". You can read his thoughts at > > http://www.johndobson.org/jarticles.html > > and perhaps draw your own conclusions. > > > "even people at Caltech don't know why inertia > > happens, they only know how it happens." > > It's a good line, which applies to anything fundamental. > If you answer a long enough chain of "Why?" questions, eventually you > have to stop at something (currently!) regarded as fundamental and > say: "That's just how it seems to be." So in the end, what we are > left with as an "answer" to our original "Why?", is a very detailed > description of /how/. > > Mike > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2174. [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:10:47 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > What is "Twisters in Texas"? Cubers? Ah, yes - that might get us back On Topic! He has some harmless fun with those tornadoes, though. /Buddhist/ monk might be wrong, btw. I'm very hazy about eastern religions, and even hazier about eastern-style religions in California. Mike
2175. Re: advanced Fridrich
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:51:16 -0000

Hi Tyson, Yeah, I've been told Sebastien Felix uses multislotting... Which means that he pairs up an F2L pair as he inserts the first one. I also heard that Patrick Bellenbaum learned how the F2L algs effect all the pieces, so he could use it in BLD speedsolving. I am not too sure about this, though... About seeing how the F2L algs effect the other F2L pieces: I often know what the next F2L case is going to be, a lot of times I just feel it comming.. I guess most ppl who use F2L have this. And if I don't exactly know which case the next pair is going to be, I try to figure out at least some information like, the orientation of the edge (will I have to rotate the cube next?), or the orientation of the corner (usually easy if it's going to end up with white on top). But this isn't a method of course... I never spent time making tables with different cases.. It's only looking ahead :). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > So I've been hearing about this method of Fridrich where as you put in > an F2L pair, you can easily know where the next one will be or how the > F2L algorithm affects the other pieces around the cube. Are there any > videos of people using this method? Isn't this how Marcus Stuhr got > his 15.15 average? Marcus, I know you mentioned that you had a BLD > solve on video on computer ready to be uploaded, but do you have any > speed solves? It would be interesting to see your cubing style and how > it affects your reaction time in terms of F2L pairs. I'm wondering if > your 15.15 average was attained with hand speed, reduction of delays, > or a combination of both? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
2176. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: advanced Fridrich
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:19:32 -0800

Yeah, there are a few easy cases that after awhile, we all learn to notice. One case that comes to mind is the F2L algorithm where the corner is in place and the edge needs to be flipped. If there are three oriented edges in the last layer, it's very easy to position the last layer so that all edges are oriented for the OLL. I checked on strangepuzzle and couldn't find any videos of Marcus Stuhr though... does he have a website where he posts videos and such things? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 3:51 AM, Joël van Noort wrote: > Hi Tyson, > > Yeah, I've been told Sebastien Felix uses multislotting... Which > means that he pairs up an F2L pair as he inserts the first one. > > I also heard that Patrick Bellenbaum learned how the F2L algs effect > all the pieces, so he could use it in BLD speedsolving. I am not too > sure about this, though... > > About seeing how the F2L algs effect the other F2L pieces: I often > know what the next F2L case is going to be, a lot of times I just > feel it comming.. I guess most ppl who use F2L have this. And if I > don't exactly know which case the next pair is going to be, I try to > figure out at least some information like, the orientation of the > edge (will I have to rotate the cube next?), or the orientation of > the corner (usually easy if it's going to end up with white on top). > But this isn't a method of course... I never spent time making > tables with different cases.. It's only looking ahead :). > > - Joël. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Hi Everyone, >> >> So I've been hearing about this method of Fridrich where as you > put in >> an F2L pair, you can easily know where the next one will be or how > the >> F2L algorithm affects the other pieces around the cube. Are there > any >> videos of people using this method? Isn't this how Marcus Stuhr > got >> his 15.15 average? Marcus, I know you mentioned that you had a > BLD >> solve on video on computer ready to be uploaded, but do you have > any >> speed solves? It would be interesting to see your cubing style > and how >> it affects your reaction time in terms of F2L pairs. I'm > wondering if >> your 15.15 average was attained with hand speed, reduction of > delays, >> or a combination of both? >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2177. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:25:04 +0100

Would you comment please on his statement "apparently we talk "proper" English over here"? Sorry, still off topic. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 12:10 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > What is "Twisters in Texas"? Cubers? Ah, yes - that might get us back On Topic! He has some harmless fun with those tornadoes, though. /Buddhist/ monk might be wrong, btw. I'm very hazy about eastern religions, and even hazier about eastern-style religions in California. Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
2178. Re: [Speed cubing group] advanced Fridrich
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:34:24 -0000

There are actually only a few multislotting algs, just a lot of different cases for them to be used on. It's a bit like VH, only it effects the next pair instead of the last layer. I've been trying to apply them to roux for a while, but they don't come up that often. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet <frsechet@...> wrote: > > Hi Tyson > Actually, that's the method (or a method close to what) Sebastien Felix > does (or used to do, I haven't from him in a while, I don't even know if > he's still cubing, since he told me he was close to quit... anyway). I > got his F2L algorithm table somewhere, some of the tricks are rather > clever. I also don't know if he knew all of them (there are quite a lot, > I would say 500-ish from what I remember) but I wouldn't be surprised if > he did. So you might want to grab a recent video of Sebastien. Dunno if > strangepuzzle's got any. > François > > Tyson Mao a écrit : > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > So I've been hearing about this method of Fridrich where as you put in > > an F2L pair, you can easily know where the next one will be or how the > > F2L algorithm affects the other pieces around the cube. Are there any > > videos of people using this method? Isn't this how Marcus Stuhr got > > his 15.15 average? Marcus, I know you mentioned that you had a BLD > > solve on video on computer ready to be uploaded, but do you have any > > speed solves? It would be interesting to see your cubing style and how > > it affects your reaction time in terms of F2L pairs. I'm wondering if > > your 15.15 average was attained with hand speed, reduction of delays, > > or a combination of both? > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> > > Free puzzle inlay games > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> > > Educational game and puzzle > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> > > > > Word puzzle game > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> > > Kid puzzle game > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> > > Puzzle games > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2179. Re: [Speed cubing group] advanced Fridrich
From: "zemalinou" <l_f_l_x@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:57:43 -0000

Hi all, although i stoped cubing for a month, i'm restarting cubing now. I puted my multisloting file in the file section of this forum, there are only 5-6 different "algs" but the real job is to understand how it works and it will become more intuitive... email me for more stuff... keep on cubing. sebastien
2180. Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:44:08 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Would you comment please on his statement "apparently we talk "proper" English over here"? I'm not sure where "over here" is meant to be, and whether it is in the US or the UK that he believes English has changed more. There is no "proper" English anyway. The language has changed a lot in both countries since the 17th century: US English and some dialects of British English retain a few "archaic" elements in vocabulary, past tenses of strong verbs, etc. But they are only "archaic" from the point of view of someone who speaks the dialect of S.E. England. He says he could make himself understood to people whose accents he couldn't understand. That is not surprising: the American accent(s) are familiar in the UK from imported films & TV. The flow is pretty much one way. Also, some British accents /are/ fairly impenetrable at times. :D Mike
2181. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:20:03 +0100

Nothing to argue about but I was astonished at his " my guess is that the language has changed less over here than over there" (over here is Apparently America). ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:44 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Would you comment please on his statement "apparently we talk "proper" English over here"? I'm not sure where "over here" is meant to be, and whether it is in the US or the UK that he believes English has changed more. There is no "proper" English anyway. The language has changed a lot in both countries since the 17th century: US English and some dialects of British English retain a few "archaic" elements in vocabulary, past tenses of strong verbs, etc. But they are only "archaic" from the point of view of someone who speaks the dialect of S.E. England. He says he could make himself understood to people whose accents he couldn't understand. That is not surprising: the American accent(s) are familiar in the UK from imported films & TV. The flow is pretty much one way. Also, some British accents /are/ fairly impenetrable at times. :D Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
2182. avg number of moves
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:30:32 -0500

I counted how many moves my current approach takes and it was around 75 moves (40 moves F2L, 35 moves 3LLL). My cross was 7 or 8 moves every time. If I learn the rest of 2LL and don't do anything fancy like multislotting, I could see that coming down to the low 60's. My F2L is about 40 moves. What's a reasonable rate for a speedcuber? 3 moves a second? How many moves does a typical sub-30 cuber use for a Fridrich-style solve? - Matt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2183. Re: Very important update to my site!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:37:01 -0000

Hi Stefan, I made a few adjustments... Corrected a few mistakes, added some things about shoes and socks. Deleted the display bar in the applets. I didn't photoshop your sunburn away, though ;). I also explained more about how to find the first three moves in a basic 8-move 3 cycle, because some people did not really understand where I got those from. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hello guys, > > > > I just uploaded a nice tutorial about commutators to my website... > > Hi Joel, > > very nice, I like it a lot. But of course I have to write some > suggestions/comments anyway :-) > > - To show the commutator structure and the "little overlapping" rule I > like to compare "shoe off, sock off, shoe on, sock on" with "shoe off > glove off, shoe on, glove on". > > - On the cube the "little overlapping" becomes nicely visible if you > take the T-perm as P, and for Q first use D, then L, then U. Shows how > larger overlap results in larger effects. > > - Example 1: (B L2 B' R B L2 B' R') has the nice alternative solution > (R' U L' U' R U L U'). > > - Can you give unique numbers to all examples to make referring to > them easier? > > - What's (P = R'UL' and Q = U') supposed to do? > > - For the 4x4 applets, I'm sure there's a way to turn the algorithm > display off, but I don't remember how right now. > > - (P = l r' u2 l' r') should be (P = l r' u2 l' r) > > - Why always only outer slice turns for Q, never inner slice turns? > For example (U R' U') M' (U R U') M. Also results in a nice alg with > setup move R: (R U R' U' M' U R U' r'). Inner slice turns for Q is > also very helpful for 4x4. > > - Gosh did I have a sunburn. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2184. Re: avg number of moves
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:46:07 -0000

Hey Matt! I think 3 moves per second is a very good rate.. I think I average a little more than 3.5 moves/second. I think you can improve a lot on the F2L! I think I average about 30 moves for the F2L and in the lower 50's for the whole cube. I suspect you are using the standard F2L algorithms too much, and don't know a lot of shortcuts. You can find some shortcuts here: http://www.puzzlingaddiction.com/Cube/f2l/. Not all of them are usefull in speedcubing, but it gives some inspiration. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > I counted how many moves my current approach takes and it was around 75 > moves (40 moves F2L, 35 moves 3LLL). > My cross was 7 or 8 moves every time. If I learn the rest of 2LL and don't > do anything fancy like multislotting, I could see that coming down to the > low 60's. My F2L is about 40 moves. > > What's a reasonable rate for a speedcuber? 3 moves a second? > > How many moves does a typical sub-30 cuber use for a Fridrich- style solve? > > - Matt > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2185. [Speed cubing group] Re: (Off topic) Scientist John Dobson
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:08:53 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Nothing to argue about but I was astonished at his " my guess is that the language has changed less over here than over there" (over here is Apparently America). Yes, it does seem surprising -- you might have expected *some* influence from all those non-English-speaking settlers! Maybe he has somehow got the notion that we all spoke the same way four or five centuries ago. If he sees bigger regional variations within the UK today than within the US, he might imagine that American English has stayed closer to that "original" language, and that the British accents and dialects have emerged since then. But there were "always" big regional variations here: cf. Chaucer & Langland, who wrote in quite different dialects, both in C14. It's hard to guess what he might have been thinking to come up with that. Mike
2186. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:25:51 -0800

http://tinyurl.com/gszbn -Chris On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > Hi, Tyson > > where can I get the video from other angle? > could u tell me? > thanks a lot!! > > PS: I'm Vic's friend from Taiwan. ^_^ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2187. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:11:08 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/gszbn > > -Chris > Chris Thank you very much. ^^ > On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > > > Hi, Tyson > > > > where can I get the video from other angle? > > could u tell me? > > thanks a lot!! > > > > PS: I'm Vic's friend from Taiwan. ^_^ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2188. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:15:25 -0800

The other angle is on strangepuzzle.com Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:11 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@...> wrote: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/gszbn >> >> -Chris >> > > Chris > > Thank you very much. ^^ > > >> On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Tyson >>> >>> where can I get the video from other angle? >>> could u tell me? >>> thanks a lot!! >>> >>> PS: I'm Vic's friend from Taiwan. ^_^ >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2189. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:15:36 -0800

I'm an idiot. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:11 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@...> wrote: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/gszbn >> >> -Chris >> > > Chris > > Thank you very much. ^^ > > >> On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Tyson >>> >>> where can I get the video from other angle? >>> could u tell me? >>> thanks a lot!! >>> >>> PS: I'm Vic's friend from Taiwan. ^_^ >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2190. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:20:31 -0000

That's a nice video. Who is Reid & Wascinski? On a similar note, anyone know who Justin Eastman is? (See your WC05 t-shirt) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > The other angle is on strangepuzzle.com > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology
2191. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:22:18 -0800

Reid & Wascinski is Chris Reid and Cory Wascinski, a group making a cube documentary that's been working with us for quite some time now. Justin Eastman is a Canadian cuber and he won the logo design back when the WCA was looking for a logo. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:20 AM, christopher_pelley wrote: > That's a nice video. Who is Reid & Wascinski? > > On a similar note, anyone know who Justin Eastman is? (See your WC05 > t-shirt) > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> The other angle is on strangepuzzle.com >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2192. [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:22:20 -0000

Here in the US, they are measured in Kinwald weights, where a high number like 80 means a heavy weight, and lower numbers like 10 or 25 mean thinner weight. I think in Europe there is a different scale but the same idea applies. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Could you tell about the various "weights"? > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:14 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube > > > > I found something called "Shock Oil" at a hobby store. It's > > apparently used for radio control cars. It's 100% silicone oil, and > > comes in various weights. I like the thicker kind because it drips > > slowly and is not messy to apply a few drops on a puzzle. It's > > odorless and seems to last longer than the silicone spray. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > > > Where do I get it? What brands are common? How much is it? > > > > > > I desperately need some for my 4x4 and megaminx.. thanks! > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2193. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:29:15 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I'm an idiot. XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Orz > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:11 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > <huntca@> wrote: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/gszbn > >> > >> -Chris > >> > > > > Chris > > > > Thank you very much. ^^ > > > > > >> On 2/22/06, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, Tyson > >>> > >>> where can I get the video from other angle? > >>> could u tell me? > >>> thanks a lot!! > >>> > >>> PS: I'm Vic's friend from Taiwan. ^_^ > >>> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2194. Sub 30!!
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:39:05 -0000

I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big help. I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!!
2195. Philadelphia Cubers
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:39:59 -0800

My cousin goes to school in Philadelphia and I might be there for her graduation. Are there any cubers around Philadelphia? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2196. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:45:43 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I'm an idiot. But at least it took you less than a minute to realize it :-) Cheers! Stefan
2197. Re: Sub 30!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:07:12 -0000

You're about my speed (at least when I'm using CFOP). I got a few 27's yesterday. My average varies from 39 to 41. What were the tips that helped the most, in your opinion? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > help. > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! >
2198. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sub 30!!
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:12:16 -0500

And what was your average before? On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > You're about my speed (at least when I'm using CFOP). I got a few > 27's yesterday. My average varies from 39 to 41. What were the tips > that helped the most, in your opinion? > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" > <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > > help. > > > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2199. Re: Philadelphia Cubers
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:17:08 -0000

David Barr and I live in Laurel, MD, but thats about 2-2.5 hours away. I don't think thats what you were going for, but I thought I'd give you a heads up. The NY/NJ cubers (Ian, Bob, etc.) are probably about the same distance away, but in the other direction. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > My cousin goes to school in Philadelphia and I might be there for her > graduation. Are there any cubers around Philadelphia? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
2200. OLL #49
From: "darereck" <darereck@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:28:57 -0000

I remember Stefan posted an algorithm he used. There was two. I can't find it. Could someone please post both of them? Thanks.
2201. [Speed cubing group] Re: Sub 30!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:40:13 -0000

Well, I got down to 31 with a corners-first strategy. The method itself was nothing great, but I had done it for so many years I could achieve sub-30 times about 50% of the time. I'm hoping to surpass that by learning a more efficient solving method. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > And what was your average before? > > On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > You're about my speed (at least when I'm using CFOP). I got a few > > 27's yesterday. My average varies from 39 to 41. What were the tips > > that helped the most, in your opinion? > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" > > <dbeyer816@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > > > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > > > help. > > > > > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+ games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzl e+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+i nlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+ puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzz le+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5= Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ > Word > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+ga mes&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+ game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+gam es&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+g ame&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games& w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game &w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolv ingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2202. 11.13
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:43:33 -0000

I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve including scramble and how he solved it. Thanks
2203. Re: OLL #49
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:42:56 -0000

What numbering scheme for OLL are you using? There are only 40 OLL cases on the Fridrich site. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "darereck" <darereck@...> wrote: > > I remember Stefan posted an algorithm he used. There was two. I can't > find it. Could someone please post both of them? > > Thanks. >
2204. Re: OLL #49
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:51:35 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "darereck" <darereck@.. .> wrote: > > I remember Stefan posted an algorithm he used. There was two. I can't > find it. Could someone please post both of them? (I'm assuming you use Bob's the numbering scheme) Thanks for asking, you made me think about it again and I just realized my right hand is pretty much holding the cube while the left hand does all the work, and that despite the case being symmetric. So I gotta try mirroring it. Right now I do it this way: r' U' (x U) R' U' x l' l' U L U' R' U x So now I'll have to try: l U (x U') L U x r r U' R' U L U' x Btw, here's another alg for another OLL case I found recently: L F' F' U R' U' F' U l D' (x U') L' Cheers! Stefan
2205. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:02:16 +0100

Strange. Google doesn´t find anything on "Kinwalds weights". In Europe (or maybe; in the rest of the world) the viscosity is measured in "stoke". You can buy silicon on 100, 1000, 10000 etc. stoke. Stoke is the CGS-unit for kinematical viscocity and one stoke= 10^4m^2/s. But OK, you have your bushels, your inches and your Fahrenheit. So why not buy silicon in Kinwalds? R ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube Here in the US, they are measured in Kinwald weights, where a high number like 80 means a heavy weight, and lower numbers like 10 or 25 mean thinner weight. I think in Europe there is a different scale but the same idea applies. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Could you tell about the various "weights"? > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:14 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: silicon lube > > > > I found something called "Shock Oil" at a hobby store. It's > > apparently used for radio control cars. It's 100% silicone oil, and > > comes in various weights. I like the thicker kind because it drips > > slowly and is not messy to apply a few drops on a puzzle. It's > > odorless and seems to last longer than the silicone spray. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > > > Where do I get it? What brands are common? How much is it? > > > > > > I desperately need some for my 4x4 and megaminx.. thanks! > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2206. Re: 11.13
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:06:18 -0000

Well, the PLL was: U' ;-) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve > including scramble and how he solved it. > > Thanks >
2207. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:07:15 -0800

You know... we've tried. We weren't able to do it. There are two possibilities: 1. The scramble was done incorrectly. I actually highly doubt this is the case. I was behind the table myself scrambling most of the cubes. The other people that were scrambling cubes, (i.e. Daniel Lo and my brother) are all very trustworthy scramblers. 2. We're just stupid. I think it's more likely the latter. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:43 AM, bballkid2076 wrote: > I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve > including scramble and how he solved it. > > Thanks > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2208. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:11:32 -0800

Hence, the look of extreme guilt on his face. But this was something we all knew would happen right? Eventually, someone will hit 8 seconds. Macky had a 10.07 and an unofficial competition of ours. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 12:06 PM, christopher_pelley wrote: > Well, the PLL was: > > U' > > ;-) > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@...> wrote: >> >> I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve >> including scramble and how he solved it. >> >> Thanks >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2209. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:16:38 -0000

Can you give us the scramble it was supposed to be? And how the cube was oriented for it? And is a video available that includes the start and where you can see the cube? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > You know... we've tried. We weren't able to do it. There are two > possibilities: > > 1. The scramble was done incorrectly. I actually highly doubt this is > the case. I was behind the table myself scrambling most of the cubes. > The other people that were scrambling cubes, (i.e. Daniel Lo and my > brother) are all very trustworthy scramblers. > > 2. We're just stupid. > > I think it's more likely the latter. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:43 AM, bballkid2076 wrote: > > > I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve > > including scramble and how he solved it. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2210. Philadelphia Article
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:34:06 -0800

Hi Everyone, I'm looking for cubers in the Philadelphia area, and especially cubers at the University of Pennsylvania. My cousin goes to the University of Pennsylvania and knows a bunch of people on the staff of the newspaper, the Daily Pennsylvanian, who might be interested in writing an article about blindfold cubers. They were interested in contacting me because I did some blindfold cubing on Beauty and the Geek 2 and I was once the world record holder, but it just wouldn't do justice when there's someone at their own school who can solve it in 1 minute 17 seconds for them not to include him in the article. Anyway, so if you go to the University of Pennsylvania, and you can cube, let me know. And they definitely want to interview Marcus and see his skills into action. Actually, Marcus, if you're free, my cousin is in the dorm across the street and she's interesting in meeting you just to see you solve the cube. She's seen me blindfold before, but I can't memorize the cube in 15 to 25 seconds, so that would be very interesting to witness. She's also got a camera if you're having trouble with your lithium battery. It seems that it's possible to build a strong cubing community in Pennsylvania like we have here in Southern California, and with experts like Marcus in the area, it shouldn't be too difficult to attract media attention. Actually, Marcus, if you're interested, I may be able to get you a spot on one of the morning news shows. They would also be interested in other Philadelphia cubers... so just let me know. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2211. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:36:11 -0800

Hi Stefan, I think it's: B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B So let me know if you can get it to work...otherwise, I'll check some of the other scrambles. As for other videos, what I gave to Chris Hunt is all that I have... Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Can you give us the scramble it was supposed to be? And how the cube > was oriented for it? > > And is a video available that includes the start and where you can see > the cube? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> You know... we've tried. We weren't able to do it. There are two >> possibilities: >> >> 1. The scramble was done incorrectly. I actually highly doubt this > is >> the case. I was behind the table myself scrambling most of the > cubes. >> The other people that were scrambling cubes, (i.e. Daniel Lo and my >> brother) are all very trustworthy scramblers. >> >> 2. We're just stupid. >> >> I think it's more likely the latter. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:43 AM, bballkid2076 wrote: >> >>> I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve >>> including scramble and how he solved it. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2212. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:47:29 -0800

B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B What is A, typo? -Chris On 2/23/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > I think it's: > > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > So let me know if you can get it to work...otherwise, I'll check some > of the other scrambles. > > As for other videos, what I gave to Chris Hunt is all that I have... > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > Can you give us the scramble it was supposed to be? And how the cube > > was oriented for it? > > > > And is a video available that includes the start and where you can see > > the cube? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> You know... we've tried. We weren't able to do it. There are two > >> possibilities: > >> > >> 1. The scramble was done incorrectly. I actually highly doubt this > > is > >> the case. I was behind the table myself scrambling most of the > > cubes. > >> The other people that were scrambling cubes, (i.e. Daniel Lo and my > >> brother) are all very trustworthy scramblers. > >> > >> 2. We're just stupid. > >> > >> I think it's more likely the latter. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:43 AM, bballkid2076 wrote: > >> > >>> I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve > >>> including scramble and how he solved it. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2213. Re: Philadelphia Article
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:53:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I'm looking for cubers in the Philadelphia area, and especially cubers > at the University of Pennsylvania. My cousin goes to the University of > Pennsylvania and knows a bunch of people on the staff of the newspaper, > the Daily Pennsylvanian, who might be interested in writing an article > about blindfold cubers. They were interested in contacting me because > I did some blindfold cubing on Beauty and the Geek 2 and I was once the > world record holder, but it just wouldn't do justice when there's > someone at their own school who can solve it in 1 minute 17 seconds for > them not to include him in the article. > > Anyway, so if you go to the University of Pennsylvania, and you can > cube, let me know. And they definitely want to interview Marcus and > see his skills into action. Actually, Marcus, if you're free, my > cousin is in the dorm across the street and she's interesting in > meeting you just to see you solve the cube. She's seen me blindfold > before, but I can't memorize the cube in 15 to 25 seconds, so that > would be very interesting to witness. She's also got a camera if > you're having trouble with your lithium battery. > > It seems that it's possible to build a strong cubing community in > Pennsylvania like we have here in Southern California, and with experts > like Marcus in the area, it shouldn't be too difficult to attract media > attention. Actually, Marcus, if you're interested, I may be able to > get you a spot on one of the morning news shows. They would also be > interested in other Philadelphia cubers... so just let me know. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > I am actually going to be at UPenn tommorow. But considering ive only successfully bld cubed twice, my avg for reg speedcubing is only 24.5 seconds, and i am only 14 i dont think im the right person for the article.
2214. Re: Philadelphia Article
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:05:14 -0000

Off-topic: Haha, Yeah, about your BLD solve on BATG: I've seen people on the internet who actually thought you solved the cube blindfolded in 14 seconds... They didn't see it was edited... :) - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I'm looking for cubers in the Philadelphia area, and especially cubers > at the University of Pennsylvania. My cousin goes to the University of > Pennsylvania and knows a bunch of people on the staff of the newspaper, > the Daily Pennsylvanian, who might be interested in writing an article > about blindfold cubers. They were interested in contacting me because > I did some blindfold cubing on Beauty and the Geek 2 and I was once the > world record holder, but it just wouldn't do justice when there's > someone at their own school who can solve it in 1 minute 17 seconds for > them not to include him in the article. > > Anyway, so if you go to the University of Pennsylvania, and you can > cube, let me know. And they definitely want to interview Marcus and > see his skills into action. Actually, Marcus, if you're free, my > cousin is in the dorm across the street and she's interesting in > meeting you just to see you solve the cube. She's seen me blindfold > before, but I can't memorize the cube in 15 to 25 seconds, so that > would be very interesting to witness. She's also got a camera if > you're having trouble with your lithium battery. > > It seems that it's possible to build a strong cubing community in > Pennsylvania like we have here in Southern California, and with experts > like Marcus in the area, it shouldn't be too difficult to attract media > attention. Actually, Marcus, if you're interested, I may be able to > get you a spot on one of the morning news shows. They would also be > interested in other Philadelphia cubers... so just let me know. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
2215. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:06:40 -0000

I assume it's antislice: LA = L R I wonder if that was ignored by the scrambler? Probably not based on what Tyson says. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > What is A, typo? > > -Chris > > On 2/23/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > I think it's: > > > > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > > > So let me know if you can get it to work...otherwise, I'll check some > > of the other scrambles. > > > > As for other videos, what I gave to Chris Hunt is all that I have... > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > > > Can you give us the scramble it was supposed to be? And how the cube > > > was oriented for it? > > > > > > And is a video available that includes the start and where you can see > > > the cube? > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> You know... we've tried. We weren't able to do it. There are two > > >> possibilities: > > >> > > >> 1. The scramble was done incorrectly. I actually highly doubt this > > > is > > >> the case. I was behind the table myself scrambling most of the > > > cubes. > > >> The other people that were scrambling cubes, (i.e. Daniel Lo and my > > >> brother) are all very trustworthy scramblers. > > >> > > >> 2. We're just stupid. > > >> > > >> I think it's more likely the latter. > > >> > > >> Tyson Mao > > >> Astrophysics '06 > > >> California Institute of Technology > > >> > > >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 11:43 AM, bballkid2076 wrote: > > >> > > >>> I was just wondering if anyone has recreated Leyan Lo's Wr solve > > >>> including scramble and how he solved it. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2216. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 16:21:56 -0500

I don't think it's antislice. Just before that in the scramble, L R is written without antislice shorthand. What kind of program generates LA sometimes and L R others? I would think it would have been written as "... LA U2 LA ..." or "... L R U2 L R ...", not switching back and forth like that. My two cents... On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I assume it's antislice: LA = L R > > I wonder if that was ignored by the scrambler? Probably not based > on what Tyson says. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@...> wrote: > > > > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 > D U' B > > > > What is A, typo? > > > > -Chris > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2217. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:27:46 -0800

B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B Sowwie... Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Matt Moberly wrote: > I don't think it's antislice. Just before that in the scramble, L R is > written without antislice shorthand. What kind of program generates LA > sometimes and L R others? I would think it would have been written as > "... > LA U2 LA ..." or "... L R U2 L R ...", not switching back and forth > like > that. > > My two cents... > > On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> I assume it's antislice: LA = L R >> >> I wonder if that was ignored by the scrambler? Probably not based >> on what Tyson says. >> >> Chris >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" >> <huntca@...> wrote: >>> >>> B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 >> D U' B >>> >>> What is A, typo? >>> >>> -Chris >>> >> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2218. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:14:04 -0000

Ok, can you also tell how the cube was held for scrambling? By now I have reconstructed it backwards with the video and I'm right after the cross, so I just need to close that last little gap. Knowing how the cube was held would help me a lot. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > Sowwie... > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Matt Moberly wrote: > > > I don't think it's antislice. Just before that in the scramble, L R is > > written without antislice shorthand. What kind of program generates LA > > sometimes and L R others? I would think it would have been written as > > "... > > LA U2 LA ..." or "... L R U2 L R ...", not switching back and forth > > like > > that. > > > > My two cents... > > > > On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> > >> I assume it's antislice: LA = L R > >> > >> I wonder if that was ignored by the scrambler? Probably not based > >> on what Tyson says. > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > >> <huntca@> wrote: > >>> > >>> B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 > >> D U' B > >>> > >>> What is A, typo? > >>> > >>> -Chris > >>> > >> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2219. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 14:22:41 -0800

Oh really? You're awesome Stefan! white on top, green in front. Again... I admit the possibility that the scrambling was wrong... so if it was, I'd really be interested in knowing. Btw... you spent so much time watching the webcast... do you really have nothing better to do :-P?!? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:14 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Ok, can you also tell how the cube was held for scrambling? By now I > have reconstructed it backwards with the video and I'm right after the > cross, so I just need to close that last little gap. Knowing how the > cube was held would help me a lot. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B >> >> Sowwie... >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Matt Moberly wrote: >> >>> I don't think it's antislice. Just before that in the scramble, L > R is >>> written without antislice shorthand. What kind of program > generates LA >>> sometimes and L R others? I would think it would have been > written as >>> "... >>> LA U2 LA ..." or "... L R U2 L R ...", not switching back and > forth >>> like >>> that. >>> >>> My two cents... >>> >>> On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I assume it's antislice: LA = L R >>>> >>>> I wonder if that was ignored by the scrambler? Probably not > based >>>> on what Tyson says. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" >>>> <huntca@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 LA U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' > R2 >>>> D U' B >>>>> >>>>> What is A, typo? >>>>> >>>>> -Chris >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2220. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:38:33 -0000

1. Hold U=white, F=green 2. Scramble: B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B 3. Solve: y L l U R' y L' U x U R' U' R U R U' R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U U R' U' R' U R2 U' z' U U (R' U' R U') (R' U R U) (l U' R' U) x U' > Btw... you spent so much time watching the webcast... do you really > have nothing better to do :-P?!? Nah, I didn't spend too much time with that. I did have a look every now and then, that's all. Cheers! Stefan
2221. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:53:44 -0000

Well, now that I've executed it freely (i.e. staring at the cube, not the solution alg) let me take the y out and also rearrange the solution a bit (particularly the R2's belong to the following pair, not the preceding): 1. Hold U=white, F=green 2. Scramble: B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B 3. Preinspect: y 4. Solve: CRO: L l U R' y L' U CE1: x U R' U' R U R U' CE2: R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U CE3: R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U CE4: U R' U' R' U R2 U' OLL: z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x PLL: U' Also, for the cross of course I can only guess the exact execution since it's not on the video. The rest of the solve is pretty much exactly what Leyan did. Btw, F2L with 37 moves in about 8.23 seconds. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > 1. Hold U=white, F=green > > 2. Scramble: > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > 3. Solve: > y L l U R' y L' U > x U R' U' R U R U' R2' > x2 U' R U R U' R2' U R2 > x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > U R' U' R' U R2 U' > z' U U (R' U' R U') (R' U R U) (l U' R' U) x > U' > > > Btw... you spent so much time watching the webcast... do you really > > have nothing better to do :-P?!? > > Nah, I didn't spend too much time with that. I did have a look every > now and then, that's all. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2222. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:54:18 -0800

Wow, you got it?!? That confirms scenario number two: Leyan is stupid. We have evidence when he tried to connect some dots on a place mat in a restaurant. That's so awesome... and it looks like you have the keen ability of catching the most brilliant moments on the web cam. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 23, 2006, at 2:53 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Well, now that I've executed it freely (i.e. staring at the cube, not > the solution alg) let me take the y out and also rearrange the > solution a bit (particularly the R2's belong to the following pair, > not the preceding): > > 1. Hold U=white, F=green > > 2. Scramble: > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > 3. Preinspect: > y > > 4. Solve: > CRO: L l U R' y L' U > CE1: x U R' U' R U R U' > CE2: R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U > CE3: R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > CE4: U R' U' R' U R2 U' > OLL: z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x > PLL: U' > > Also, for the cross of course I can only guess the exact execution > since it's not on the video. The rest of the solve is pretty much > exactly what Leyan did. Btw, F2L with 37 moves in about 8.23 seconds. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> 1. Hold U=white, F=green >> >> 2. Scramble: >> B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B >> >> 3. Solve: >> y L l U R' y L' U >> x U R' U' R U R U' R2' >> x2 U' R U R U' R2' U R2 >> x' R U' R' U R U' R' U >> U R' U' R' U R2 U' >> z' U U (R' U' R U') (R' U R U) (l U' R' U) x >> U' >> >>> Btw... you spent so much time watching the webcast... do you > really >>> have nothing better to do :-P?!? >> >> Nah, I didn't spend too much time with that. I did have a look every >> now and then, that's all. >> >> Cheers! >> Stefan >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2223. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:13:55 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > That's so awesome... and it looks like you have the keen ability of > catching the most brilliant moments on the web cam. Part of the trick is to *make* moments brilliant with good comments, i.e. interpreting something into them that wasn't really there. Remember the BATG editing thread? Cheers! Stefan P.S. Ok, Joel, now I'll go to bed... no, actually I'll go watch tonight's two episodes of Cheers...
2224. READ THIS!!! IMPORTANT!!!!!!!
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: rubiks rubiks <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:31:57 -0800 (PST)

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2225. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:47:21 -0000

1 Comment...does Leyan solve cross on Left??? Or Top??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > 1. Hold U=white, F=green > > 2. Scramble: > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > 3. Solve: > y L l U R' y L' U > x U R' U' R U R U' R2' > x2 U' R U R U' R2' U R2 > x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > U R' U' R' U R2 U' > z' U U (R' U' R U') (R' U R U) (l U' R' U) x > U' > > > Btw... you spent so much time watching the webcast... do you really > > have nothing better to do :-P?!? > > Nah, I didn't spend too much time with that. I did have a look every > now and then, that's all. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2226. DDR: PSMO and Quasar videos
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:33:24 -0000

Due to some requests I've decided to post these: Here are some videos (I used a MOV to MPEG/WMV converter/splitter but it only does 50% of your selection so I had to chunk it into relevant portions): Paranoia Survivor Max Oni (1.3x rate, 2x arrowspeed), score AAA: http://rapidshare.de/files/13991786/PSMO.mpeg.html http://rapidshare.de/files/13991873/PSMO2.mpeg.html http://rapidshare.de/files/13991907/PSMO3.mpeg.html Quasar (1.3x rate, 2x arrowspeed), score AAA: http://rapidshare.de/files/13992561/quasar13.MOV.html
2227. Re: [Speed cubing group] Should I take it back? Stiff Walmart 25th anniversary cube.
From: "stuart.a.hall" <stuart.a.hall@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:03:23 -0500

Thanks to everyone who responded to my initial question. I think I found out why the tiles come off so easily... the solvent in the spray lube dissolves the glue that keeps them on. My tiles were sticking quite nicely until I put on some 3M Teflon Silicone spray tonight and now they are peeling. Not a problem since I will likely order some cubesmith tile sets. I did do as suggested and put on the silicone spray. Man, the thing is still really stiff. Hopefully there is some kind of a break in period where it will loosen up. Otherwise I am going to have to give this one away to a non-cuber as I can barely turn one of the sides with a finger (I have to use my whole hand). Does it make a difference if you let the spray dry before you reassemble the cube? I didn't but read in one post to let it dry but it was already reassembled. Slightly dissapointed that my cheapo cubie solution did not work, at least not yet! (more evidence you get what you pay for) Stuart Cheshire, CT USA matteo miller-nicolato wrote: > i also have a 25th anniversary cube that was very > tight the first days or so.... just take the thing > apart and spray the center mechanism with silicone, > let it dry and put it back together.. you dont have to > mess with the other parts. you should also consider > buying better stickers as the crappy 25th anniversary > ones rip off easily. > > --- stuarthall_ct <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > > >>For Christmas I got myself a 25th anniversary cube >>from FAO Shwartz >>(with regular colors including a white side), and I >>have never played >>with a cube that rotated as smoothly. >> >>Today I went to Walmart and bought a 25th anniverary >>edition with a >>silver side instead of white. This was to be my work >>practice cube. I >>excitedly ripped it out of the plastic casing only >>to try to turn it >>and it is so stiff! I can barely turn each side. >> >>Being a newbie and only able to compare the two >>cubes, I am sorely >>disappointed with the new cube. Should I return it, >>or is it worth >>taking it apart, sanding the cubies a little and >>adding some silicon >>spray? >> >>For the price it wasn't bad, $9.97, and the store is >>not far away. I >>think there were another 5 or 6 on the shelf... >>maybe I just got a bad >>one? Or do they all need a little work to get them >>just right? >> >>Thanks for the advice. >> >> >> >> >> > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! > > i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller nicolato > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2228. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:15:03 -0000

Definitely left. All the F2L cases on his site are cross-on-left F2L algs. Great video analysis, Stefan. Great solve, Leyan. It's fascinating to study it. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > 1 Comment...does Leyan solve cross on Left??? Or Top??? > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > 1. Hold U=white, F=green > > > > 2. Scramble: > > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > > > 3. Solve: > > y L l U R' y L' U > > x U R' U' R U R U' R2' > > x2 U' R U R U' R2' U R2 > > x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > > U R' U' R' U R2 U' > > z' U U (R' U' R U') (R' U R U) (l U' R' U) x > > U' > > > > > Btw... you spent so much time watching the webcast... do you really > > > have nothing better to do :-P?!? > > > > Nah, I didn't spend too much time with that. I did have a look every > > now and then, that's all. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
2229. White 3x3x3 with arched centers
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 03:29:50 -0000

Would it be bad form if I were to alert everyone that the new white cubes are in stock on rubiks.com? Because if it would, I won't do it. Chris
2230. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:03:39 -0800

What's that in UDLRFB notation? Are all those x, y, z things meant to show his hand movements? /Lars On Feb 23, 2006, at 14:53, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > 4. Solve: > CRO: L l U R' y L' U > CE1: x U R' U' R U R U' > CE2: R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U > CE3: R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > CE4: U R' U' R' U R2 U' > OLL: z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x > PLL: U' - - - - - - - - - - - - "Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop believing in it" --- Philip K Dick Lars Petrus, lars@... http://lar5.com
2231. Re: [Speed cubing group] White 3x3x3 with arched centers
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:03:44 -0600

lol On 2/23/06, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Would it be bad form if I were to alert everyone that the new white > cubes are in stock on rubiks.com? Because if it would, I won't do it. > > Chris > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2232. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 05:25:55 -0000

Stefan: this is just awesome. thanks for taking the time to sort that out. well done. Lars: x, y, z correspond to rotations of the whole cube. y = rotate cube same direction as U x = rotate cube same direction as R z = rotate cube same direction as F --Kirk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > What's that in UDLRFB notation? > > Are all those x, y, z things meant to show his hand movements? > > /Lars > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 14:53, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > 4. Solve: > > CRO: L l U R' y L' U > > CE1: x U R' U' R U R U' > > CE2: R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U > > CE3: R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > > CE4: U R' U' R' U R2 U' > > OLL: z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x > > PLL: U' > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop believing in it" > --- Philip K Dick > > Lars Petrus, lars@... http://lar5.com >
2233. Re: [Speed cubing group] Should I take it back? Stiff Walmart 25th anniversary cube.
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:33:57 -0800 (PST)

i believe it makes a big difference if you let the silicone dry, i have a set of edges and corners with silicone dried on it, and if i put it together with a center, it moves perfectly, while the original corners and centers dont work as well...you should buy a new cube and re apply the silicone, but be careful not to put any on the stickers. the best cubes are the 15th anniversary, but take off the stickers and get the cubesmith ones. the simple solution is actually the hardest. it has the most moves, but w/e. if its the end your stuck with, you need to read the text VERY carefully, because it has the stupid flip the corners algorithm (which i do not use) the R'D'R D one, and you dont move the rest of the cube, just the very top layer when ur done with one corner. and it flips the right bottom top corner by the way... -kibbles --- "stuart.a.hall" <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > Thanks to everyone who responded to my initial > question. > > I think I found out why the tiles come off so > easily... the solvent in > the spray lube dissolves the glue that keeps them > on. My tiles were > sticking quite nicely until I put on some 3M Teflon > Silicone spray > tonight and now they are peeling. Not a problem > since I will likely > order some cubesmith tile sets. > > I did do as suggested and put on the silicone spray. > Man, the thing is > still really stiff. Hopefully there is some kind of > a break in period > where it will loosen up. Otherwise I am going to > have to give this one > away to a non-cuber as I can barely turn one of the > sides with a finger > (I have to use my whole hand). > > Does it make a difference if you let the spray dry > before you reassemble > the cube? I didn't but read in one post to let it > dry but it was > already reassembled. > > Slightly dissapointed that my cheapo cubie solution > did not work, at > least not yet! (more evidence you get what you pay > for) > > Stuart > Cheshire, CT USA > > > matteo miller-nicolato wrote: > > i also have a 25th anniversary cube that was very > > tight the first days or so.... just take the thing > > apart and spray the center mechanism with > silicone, > > let it dry and put it back together.. you dont > have to > > mess with the other parts. you should also > consider > > buying better stickers as the crappy 25th > anniversary > > ones rip off easily. > > > > --- stuarthall_ct <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > > > > > >>For Christmas I got myself a 25th anniversary cube > >>from FAO Shwartz > >>(with regular colors including a white side), and > I > >>have never played > >>with a cube that rotated as smoothly. > >> > >>Today I went to Walmart and bought a 25th > anniverary > >>edition with a > >>silver side instead of white. This was to be my > work > >>practice cube. I > >>excitedly ripped it out of the plastic casing only > >>to try to turn it > >>and it is so stiff! I can barely turn each side. > >> > >>Being a newbie and only able to compare the two > >>cubes, I am sorely > >>disappointed with the new cube. Should I return > it, > >>or is it worth > >>taking it apart, sanding the cubies a little and > >>adding some silicon > >>spray? > >> > >>For the price it wasn't bad, $9.97, and the store > is > >>not far away. I > >>think there were another 5 or 6 on the shelf... > >>maybe I just got a bad > >>one? Or do they all need a little work to get > them > >>just right? > >> > >>Thanks for the advice. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > im too cool for y'all!!! > > > > i am matteo arthur luigi thorsteinn miller > nicolato > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2234. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 10:10:44 -0000

Thanks, Stefan. Great stuff. Note that my 12.11 was only 43 moves while this solve is 52 moves, even with PLL skip! Congratulations again to Leyan. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Well, now that I've executed it freely (i.e. staring at the cube, not > the solution alg) let me take the y out and also rearrange the > solution a bit (particularly the R2's belong to the following pair, > not the preceding): > > 1. Hold U=white, F=green > > 2. Scramble: > B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B > > 3. Preinspect: > y > > 4. Solve: > CRO: L l U R' y L' U > CE1: x U R' U' R U R U' > CE2: R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U > CE3: R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U > CE4: U R' U' R' U R2 U' > OLL: z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x > PLL: U' > > Also, for the cross of course I can only guess the exact execution > since it's not on the video. The rest of the solve is pretty much > exactly what Leyan did. Btw, F2L with 37 moves in about 8.23 seconds. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2235. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 02:54:59 -0800

If only the Animal Planet competition was official... Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 24, 2006, at 2:10 AM, mackymakisumi wrote: > Thanks, Stefan. Great stuff. > Note that my 12.11 was only 43 moves while this solve is 52 moves, > even with PLL skip! Congratulations again to Leyan. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> Well, now that I've executed it freely (i.e. staring at the cube, not >> the solution alg) let me take the y out and also rearrange the >> solution a bit (particularly the R2's belong to the following pair, >> not the preceding): >> >> 1. Hold U=white, F=green >> >> 2. Scramble: >> B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B >> >> 3. Preinspect: >> y >> >> 4. Solve: >> CRO: L l U R' y L' U >> CE1: x U R' U' R U R U' >> CE2: R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U >> CE3: R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U >> CE4: U R' U' R' U R2 U' >> OLL: z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x >> PLL: U' >> >> Also, for the cross of course I can only guess the exact execution >> since it's not on the video. The rest of the solve is pretty much >> exactly what Leyan did. Btw, F2L with 37 moves in about 8.23 seconds. >> >> Cheers! >> Stefan >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2236. Help with COLL CLL CMLL Case!! (T permutation)
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:03:18 -0000

HELLO Everyone I originally was planning on learning 2 algs for each case(COLL and CLL), but I have since given up that plan of action. Full COLL just isn't necessary for ROUX. At this point, I just want to finish the full table with 1 alg for each case. HERES my CAse T Orientation with twisted corners facing you(I have wierd corner configs). The two on the left need to switch. U (r'U')(RU)(rB'R'B) COLL U' (L'U'LU)(LF'L'F) CLL U2 (B'R'F)(RBR')(F'R) COLL U0: ? I think that there has to be something better. Originally I didn't want to learn any CMLL Algs, because I wanted to be able to do full CLL/ELL solves. Now I really like them. I want more. HEres a cool CMLL alg RU'(r'U2)(R2B')(R'BR') mirrored and inversed from GILLEs site (R2UR')B'(RU')(R2U)(RB'R') another cool CLL alg (its all RUB!) CAN ANYONE help me with CLL or CMLL algs?? The search continues... JAson K
2237. Duh I mean T orientation...
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:06:02 -0000

Only took me a few seconds to realize I messed that up... =)
2238. Re: Help with COLL CLL CMLL Case!! (T permutation)
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:11:06 -0000

This is one of my favourite cases. U'FUF'U'l'U'l (do it with cube rotations, though) CMLL is very nice, especially some very fast cases. You're gonna wanna use a fast recognition technique and work out which corners are swapped over time, opposite way Gilles does it ;) That's what I'm doing, helps a lot in non-matching blocks. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...> wrote: > > HELLO Everyone > > > I originally was planning on learning 2 algs for each case(COLL and > CLL), but I have since given up that plan of action. Full COLL just > isn't necessary for ROUX. > At this point, I just want to finish the full table with 1 alg for > each case. > > > HERES my CAse > T Orientation with twisted corners facing you(I have wierd corner > configs). The two on the left need to switch. > > U (r'U')(RU)(rB'R'B) COLL > U' (L'U'LU)(LF'L'F) CLL > U2 (B'R'F)(RBR')(F'R) COLL > > > U0: ? > > I think that there has to be something better. > > Originally I didn't want to learn any CMLL Algs, because I wanted to > be able to do full CLL/ELL solves. Now I really like them. I want more. > HEres a cool CMLL alg > > RU'(r'U2)(R2B')(R'BR') mirrored and inversed from GILLEs site > > (R2UR')B'(RU')(R2U)(RB'R') another cool CLL alg (its all RUB!) > > > CAN ANYONE help me with CLL or CMLL algs?? > > > The search continues... > > > JAson K >
2239. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:53:15 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > What's that in UDLRFB notation? > > Are all those x, y, z things meant to show his hand movements? > > /Lars Yeah, cube rotations... I always use this page to check algs I post, btw: http://thearufam.brinkster.net/cube/wrapplet.asp And I just found out I can write comments as "[...]" so here's the whole thing again but ready to copy and paste into that page: -------------------- start -------------------- [1. Hold U=white, F=green] x2 y [2. Scramble:] B L2 R' D U F' L R U2 L2 U' R' B F D' F2 L' D' L' F' L' R2 D U' B [3. Preinspect:] y [4. Solve:] [CRO:] L l U R' y L' U [CE1:] x U R' U' R U R U' [CE2:] R2' x2 U' R U R U' R2' U [CE3:] R2 x' R U' R' U R U' R' U [CE4:] U R' U' R' U R2 U' [OLL:] z' U U R' U' R U' R' U R U l U' R' U x [PLL:] U' --------------------- end --------------------- Oh, and ... were you joking or did you really not understand it? Cheers! Stefan
2240. Disassembling the Megaminx.
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:31:28 -0000

Does anyone here know how to disassemble the megaminx? I got mine online (where do you get anything good in China) and when I opened it it was impossible to turn (and one of the tiles fell off. >:|)
2241. megaminx algs
From: "David " <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:03:35 -0000

Anyhow, apparently megaminx algs are harder to find online than 3x3 algs... I did some searching and found one site which explained how to solve the LL, but to me it seemed really ineffective. Could anyone give me a link to a megaminx LL solution? All I really need is a list of the algs. I want a basic 4LLL, and I don't want to learn something and later find out that it'[s a bad system, so I figured I'd just ask. (also, if you have any tips for the minx pre-LL, feel free to give those too!) Thanks! David
2242. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:36:40 -0000

I know two orient edges, some commutors for orient corners, a Niklas- like (the petrus move) for permute corners, but edges, well, I'm stuck there. You can do the Fridrich T and its inverse for the orient edges, commuter orient pairs of corners, and the Niklas (for me) has a backwards last move. In this case, Niklas actually cycles four corners around. How to do it faster... maybe Stefan can help out. ;)
2243. Re: megaminx algs
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:47:36 -0000

Well David... In general, it can be interesting to read my page about commutators. (see www.solvethecube.co.uk). The part about cycling 3 corners also applies to the megaminx... And in fact, I use it to do the corner PLL, which is the last step in my megaminx LL. One LL method is described here: http://grant.tregay.net/cube/solutions/megaminx/index.html. I use a slightly different method (I think fewer algs): 1. Orient edges: With F RUR'R' F' and it's inverse. 2. Orient corners: With sunes, and some other 3x3 moves. 3. Posisitoin edges: With a couple of variations of the J permutations alg on the 3x3, by 'moving around' some CE pairs around the LL. 4. Position the corners, I do it like Grant Tregay does. If you want me to write down any of the algs I use, just tell me... - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David " <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Anyhow, apparently megaminx algs are harder to find online than 3x3 > algs... I did some searching and found one site which explained how to > solve the LL, but to me it seemed really ineffective. Could anyone > give me a link to a megaminx LL solution? All I really need is a list > of the algs. I want a basic 4LLL, and I don't want to learn something > and later find out that it'[s a bad system, so I figured I'd just ask. > > (also, if you have any tips for the minx pre-LL, feel free to give > those too!) > > Thanks! > > David >
2244. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:49:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > I know two orient edges, some commutors for orient corners, a Niklas- > like (the petrus move) for permute corners, but edges, well, I'm stuck > there. Maybe read pages showing how commutators work on a cube, and apply them to your megaminx?.. > > You can do the Fridrich T and its inverse for the orient edges, > commuter orient pairs of corners, and the Niklas (for me) has a > backwards last move. In this case, Niklas actually cycles four corners > around. How to do it faster... maybe Stefan can help out. ;) >
2245. 2x2 Assembling
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:18:57 -0000

Hi, sorry I posted this too at blindfold group. My 2x2 accidentaly was taken apart. There are 3 axes which don't turn, 2 middle pieces with a longer side and 1 with a dent in it. Where must those peaces be? When I assemble it, the cube won't turn correctly. Please help
2246. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:42:54 -0000

I use a longer "look" for these steps, and now that I've experimented a little in the last couple of hours, my new method goes as following: 1. Orient edges, if star point is facing towards you, the one in the top left will stay the same orientation, and the other four are oriented using FURU'R'F' or its inverse. (Fridrich algorithm) 2. Permute edges, line one up with its side, do a Sune but reposition that same edge. Now, keep on doing it until you get three of them properly in its place, then look at the other two. If they're correct, then move on. Depending on the Sune type you use (I use RUR'URU2R'[U2 ]) you'll have to perform this differently. For my Sune, go to the incorrect edge on the right, perform the Sune again, and do another U. 3. Permute corners, using Phillip Marshall Ultimate Solution's Corner Series. Two of the corners will stay stationary while the other three cycle. 4. Orient corners, using commutors. That's the easiest way for me, since it uses four algorithms that I know already.
2247. Re: 2x2 Assembling
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 15:46:42 -0000

Hello, I stumbled upon this site while trying to find the 2x2x2 mechanism: http://www.planet-puzzle.com/2x2x2_build.html This Japanese site has a lot of rebuilding things in it. -Tim
2248. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 Assembling
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:25:02 -0500

The 2x2x2 is a strange animal, indeed. The only puzzle I've seen with a less intuitive internal mechanism is the 1x1x1. On 2/24/06, Timothy Sun <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Hello, > > I stumbled upon this site while trying to find the 2x2x2 mechanism: > > http://www.planet-puzzle.com/2x2x2_build.html > > This Japanese site has a lot of rebuilding things in it. > > -Tim > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2249. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:26:21 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > 2. Permute edges, line one up with its side, do a Sune but reposition > that same edge. Now, keep on doing it until you get three of them > properly in its place, then look at the other two. If they're correct, > then move on. And what do you do when they're not correct? Cheers! Stefan
2250. Re: Help with COLL CLL CMLL Case!! (T permutation)
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:41:13 -0000

THank you thom I think that CMLL can be the most efficient for cases where all pieces are permuted already. CoLLs I use sune, antisune, doublesune R'U2(RUR'U')(RUR'U')(RUR'U)R cll F(RUR'U')(RUR'U')F' (B'RB')(R2U)(RUR'U')(RB2) for my backwards T orientation I need something for the U orientation. as with the T, the twisted corners face towards you. THOM_1_what do you mean when you talk about corner recognition below? _2_ Can I steal your CMLL algs? I'm about 2/3 done with my table. Most of it is CLL, small % is COLL, and only 1 CMLL so far. (I love it though!) Thanks JASON --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > This is one of my favourite cases. > > U'FUF'U'l'U'l (do it with cube rotations, though) > > CMLL is very nice, especially some very fast cases. > > You're gonna wanna use a fast recognition technique and work out which > corners are swapped over time, opposite way Gilles does it ;) That's > what I'm doing, helps a lot in non-matching blocks. > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" > <kovacic81@> wrote: > > > > HELLO Everyone > > > > > > I originally was planning on learning 2 algs for each case(COLL and > > CLL), but I have since given up that plan of action. Full COLL just > > isn't necessary for ROUX. > > At this point, I just want to finish the full table with 1 alg for > > each case. > > > > > > HERES my CAse > > T Orientation with twisted corners facing you(I have wierd corner > > configs). The two on the left need to switch. > > > > U (r'U')(RU)(rB'R'B) COLL > > U' (L'U'LU)(LF'L'F) CLL > > U2 (B'R'F)(RBR')(F'R) COLL > > > > > > U0: ? > > > > I think that there has to be something better. > > > > Originally I didn't want to learn any CMLL Algs, because I wanted to > > be able to do full CLL/ELL solves. Now I really like them. I want more. > > HEres a cool CMLL alg > > > > RU'(r'U2)(R2B')(R'BR') mirrored and inversed from GILLEs site > > > > (R2UR')B'(RU')(R2U)(RB'R') another cool CLL alg (its all RUB!) > > > > > > CAN ANYONE help me with CLL or CMLL algs?? > > > > > > The search continues... > > > > > > JAson K > > >
2251. HMMT Competition and Rubik's Presentation
From: "rubiks1938" <rubiks1938@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:04:03 -0000

Hey everyone, Tomorrow at Harvard there will be a math competition for high school students, and one part of the schedule is mini-events that run in the afternoon. I have been invited to go to Harvard tomorrow to give a lecture to students about the cube. So I will give a presentation about some cube history, methods, how to derive the 4.3 x 10^19 configurations, and show a few pictures from competitions. The competition will provide 30 cubes, but I don't know if those are for participants to keep, or what they'll do with the cubes. The Harvard-MIT Math Tournament website is here: http://web.mit.edu/hmmt/ I will have pictures and (hopefully) videos that I can upload to my website after the events tomorrow. Happy cubing, Andy http://andyscubepage.tk
2252. Re: [Speed cubing group] White 3x3x3 with arched centers
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 11:10:47 -0800 (PST)

I just ordered one. Can this DYI cube be put together by a non-cube guru? Another words can anyone put this DYI cube together from scracth or does it require some cube expertise? --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Would it be bad form if I were to alert everyone > that the new white > cubes are in stock on rubiks.com? Because if it > would, I won't do it. > > Chris > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2253. Re: [Speed cubing group] White 3x3x3 with arched centers
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:39:45 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > I just ordered one. Can this DYI cube be put together > by a non-cube guru? Another words can anyone put this > DYI cube together from scracth or does it require some > cube expertise? It's easy, you just need to take more care to do things in the proper order. Cheers! Stefan
2254. Re: Help with COLL CLL CMLL Case!! (T permutation)
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:40:34 -0000

> I think that CMLL can be the most efficient for cases where all pieces > are permuted already. Why? CMLL buggers with permutation. 1) Do the alg backwards, look at the facelets you usually do for COLL, memorise :). 2) Of course you can steal my CMLL algs, but you're going to have to ask Gilles first, because I use all of his! :) The hardest thing in Gilles' table is that fact that some algs are missing and you have to work them out yourself by doing algs backwards, mirrored, in another dimension, etc. I'd much prefer if they were treated as 48 seperate algs. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...> wrote: > > THank you thom > > I think that CMLL can be the most efficient for cases where all pieces > are permuted already. > > CoLLs I use > sune, antisune, doublesune > R'U2(RUR'U')(RUR'U')(RUR'U)R > > cll > F(RUR'U')(RUR'U')F' > (B'RB')(R2U)(RUR'U')(RB2) for my backwards T orientation > I need something for the U orientation. > as with the T, the twisted corners face towards you. > > > THOM_1_what do you mean when you talk about corner recognition below? > _2_ Can I steal your CMLL algs? I'm about 2/3 done with my table. > Most of it is CLL, small % is COLL, and only 1 CMLL so far. (I love > it though!) > > Thanks JASON > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > This is one of my favourite cases. > > > > U'FUF'U'l'U'l (do it with cube rotations, though) > > > > CMLL is very nice, especially some very fast cases. > > > > You're gonna wanna use a fast recognition technique and work out which > > corners are swapped over time, opposite way Gilles does it ;) That's > > what I'm doing, helps a lot in non-matching blocks. > > > > ~Thom > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" > > <kovacic81@> wrote: > > > > > > HELLO Everyone > > > > > > > > > I originally was planning on learning 2 algs for each case(COLL and > > > CLL), but I have since given up that plan of action. Full COLL just > > > isn't necessary for ROUX. > > > At this point, I just want to finish the full table with 1 alg for > > > each case. > > > > > > > > > HERES my CAse > > > T Orientation with twisted corners facing you(I have wierd corner > > > configs). The two on the left need to switch. > > > > > > U (r'U')(RU)(rB'R'B) COLL > > > U' (L'U'LU)(LF'L'F) CLL > > > U2 (B'R'F)(RBR')(F'R) COLL > > > > > > > > > U0: ? > > > > > > I think that there has to be something better. > > > > > > Originally I didn't want to learn any CMLL Algs, because I wanted to > > > be able to do full CLL/ELL solves. Now I really like them. I want > more. > > > HEres a cool CMLL alg > > > > > > RU'(r'U2)(R2B')(R'BR') mirrored and inversed from GILLEs site > > > > > > (R2UR')B'(RU')(R2U)(RB'R') another cool CLL alg (its all RUB!) > > > > > > > > > CAN ANYONE help me with CLL or CMLL algs?? > > > > > > > > > The search continues... > > > > > > > > > JAson K > > > > > >
2255. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:02:57 -0000

Here's my MM solution: http://members.cox.net/swedishlf/Megaminx%20Solution.doc MS word document, kinda big. If anyone wants to put this up somewhere more accessible, feel free. -Daniel --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David " <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Anyhow, apparently megaminx algs are harder to find online than 3x3 > algs... I did some searching and found one site which explained how to > solve the LL, but to me it seemed really ineffective. Could anyone > give me a link to a megaminx LL solution? All I really need is a list > of the algs. I want a basic 4LLL, and I don't want to learn something > and later find out that it'[s a bad system, so I figured I'd just ask. > > (also, if you have any tips for the minx pre-LL, feel free to give > those too!) > > Thanks! > > David >
2256. Re: Sub 30!!
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 20:11:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > help. > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > I'm doing a set right now ... In which I just got a 27.xx solve a new PB. I use VH and ZBF2L algs which suit my style. I'm slow because I delay so much. I'm getting better and am going to learn empty slot algs that I got from a post here. Anyway the avg of 12 >> 46.03, 46.17, 40.14, 39.37, (49.48), (27.24), 42.58, 45.82, 32.09, 49.12, 41.24, 43.31 => 42.59 <== My Avg of 12
2257. Re: megaminx algs
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:43:49 -0000

Hi Daniel! Thank you so much for sharing your method! I can definately use some of the algorithms from that file... I have one comment about the last step, in case you run into a three cycle. For a 3-cycle on the F face, like the ones on page 14 (at the bottom), try this: delta = R' / DR' / R epsilon = R' / DR / R algorithm: D / F / delta / F / epsilon / F2' / D' This way you need to insert/remove a corner only twice, using a setup move ;). Bye!! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...> wrote: > > Here's my MM solution: > http://members.cox.net/swedishlf/Megaminx%20Solution.doc > > MS word document, kinda big. If anyone wants to put this up somewhere > more accessible, feel free. > > -Daniel > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "David " > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > Anyhow, apparently megaminx algs are harder to find online than 3x3 > > algs... I did some searching and found one site which explained how to > > solve the LL, but to me it seemed really ineffective. Could anyone > > give me a link to a megaminx LL solution? All I really need is a list > > of the algs. I want a basic 4LLL, and I don't want to learn something > > and later find out that it'[s a bad system, so I figured I'd just ask. > > > > (also, if you have any tips for the minx pre-LL, feel free to give > > those too!) > > > > Thanks! > > > > David > > >
2258. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:59:25 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > For a 3-cycle on the F face, like the ones on page 14 (at the > bottom), try this: > > delta = R' / DR' / R > epsilon = R' / DR / R > > algorithm: D / F / delta / F / epsilon / F2' / D' You're happy with an 11-move alg when there's one with 9? Cheers! Stefan
2259. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sub 30!!
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:14:17 -0800 (PST)

nice times! im in the 50's range, what site did u use for ure alg's? i wanna learn them to get consistent 40's! thnx Daniel Beyer <dbeyer816@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > help. > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > I'm doing a set right now ... In which I just got a 27.xx solve a new PB. I use VH and ZBF2L algs which suit my style. I'm slow because I delay so much. I'm getting better and am going to learn empty slot algs that I got from a post here. Anyway the avg of 12 >> 46.03, 46.17, 40.14, 39.37, (49.48), (27.24), 42.58, 45.82, 32.09, 49.12, 41.24, 43.31 => 42.59 <== My Avg of 12 SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2260. Re: [Speed cubing group] White 3x3x3 with arched centers
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:37:07 -0800 (PST)

Ok stefan if you say so, I'll give it shot. Is there any part of the process I should be aware of or be extra careful of...thanks. --- Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@...> > wrote: > > > > I just ordered one. Can this DYI cube be put > together > > by a non-cube guru? Another words can anyone put > this > > DYI cube together from scracth or does it require > some > > cube expertise? > > It's easy, you just need to take more care to do > things in the proper > order. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2261. Re: [Speed cubing group] HMMT Competition and Rubik's Presentation
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:03:42 -0600

:O that's awesome. there's a rice competition tomorrow (same thing as harvard/mit, just in texas), but i don't think they have a cube thing. :-/ On 2/24/06, rubiks1938 <rubiks1938@...> wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Tomorrow at Harvard there will be a math competition for high school students, and one > part of the schedule is mini-events that run in the afternoon. I have been invited to go to > Harvard tomorrow to give a lecture to students about the cube. So I will give a > presentation about some cube history, methods, how to derive the 4.3 x 10^19 > configurations, and show a few pictures from competitions. The competition will provide > 30 cubes, but I don't know if those are for participants to keep, or what they'll do with the > cubes. > > The Harvard-MIT Math Tournament website is here: > http://web.mit.edu/hmmt/ > > I will have pictures and (hopefully) videos that I can upload to my website after the events > tomorrow. > > Happy cubing, > Andy > > http://andyscubepage.tk > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2262. Re: Sub 30!!
From: "keefdcuber" <keithrx3c@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:18:51 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > help. > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > Hey guys, I'm about the same though my fastest single solve so far is 26.42, (using Fridrich method or CFOP) I've gotten a few other 26's and now often get high 20's. I can usually manage at least one or two high 20's solves a day. Best average is 34.14 but it's usually around 37/39. I'm curious about the empty slot F2L, I've heard about it before but I don't think I've seen any of the algs. Keith :)
2263. WC 2005 Movie on Google
From: "rubiks1938" <rubiks1938@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:20:48 -0000

Hey everyone, I just checked and saw that my WC Movie is now uploaded to Google Video. If you go to Google Video (www.google.com/video) and search for "rubik's" you can find it. It's 40 minutes long and may take a while to buffer. Have fun watching! Andy http://andyscubepage.tk
2264. PLL-help
From: "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 01:52:11 -0000

Hi, Does anyone know how to exchange corners UBR with UBL, and exchange edges UR with UL????...i know about "F", but is there an easier way to do it??? Can someone help me? ---Zarqa Malik---- p.s.Tyson=COOL...:D
2265. Re: [Speed cubing group] PLL-help
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:56:58 -0600

(R' U) (R U') R2 y' R' U' R U y x R (U R') U' (R2 B') from cubezone.be :) On 2/24/06, zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to exchange corners UBR with UBL, and exchange > edges UR with UL????...i know about "F", but is there an easier way to > do it??? Can someone help me? > > > ---Zarqa Malik---- > > p.s.Tyson=COOL...:D > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2266. Re: [Speed cubing group] White 3x3x3 with arched centers
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:33:15 -0000

I think pretty much the only thing you could do wrong is put the washer on the wrong side of the spring. It has to protect the plastic, not the screw head. Look here for a description of an earlier version: http://www.nascarjon.us/dyi.htm Haha, I just noticed even Jon spelled DIY wrong the same way :-) (though only in the URL) Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > Ok stefan if you say so, I'll give it shot. Is there > any part of the process I should be aware of or be > extra careful of...thanks. > > --- Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > <thunderpants16@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I just ordered one. Can this DYI cube be put > > together > > > by a non-cube guru? Another words can anyone put > > this > > > DYI cube together from scracth or does it require > > some > > > cube expertise? > > > > It's easy, you just need to take more care to do > > things in the proper > > order. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2267. [Speed cubing group] Re: Sub 30!!
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 03:42:05 -0000

Speedcubing.com I'm learning Open Slot algs at http://www.puzzlingaddiction.com/Cube/f2l/ Traditional Algs at http://www.speedcubing.com/f2l_crossbottom_print.html I use case 1, 2, 5, and 7 ZB Algs (Case one is VH connected slots) At Hardwick's site on Speedcubing.com I'm learning COLL or use a 3 Look Last Layer for uncovered cases Dan Harris' Site is great too. Oh yea ... cubesmith.com for the new stickers that are on the way too! I still feel slow, like I can get so much faster ... I know I can do it :) So much hesitation and cube sticking :( --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > nice times! im in the 50's range, what site did u use for ure alg's? i wanna learn them to get consistent 40's! thnx > > Daniel Beyer <dbeyer816@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" > <dbeyer816@> wrote: > > > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > > help. > > > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > > > > I'm doing a set right now ... In which I just got a 27.xx solve a new PB. > I use VH and ZBF2L algs which suit my style. I'm slow because I delay > so much. I'm getting better and am going to learn empty slot algs > that I got from a post here. > > Anyway the avg of 12 >> > > 46.03, 46.17, 40.14, 39.37, (49.48), (27.24), 42.58, 45.82, 32.09, > 49.12, 41.24, 43.31 => 42.59 <== My Avg of 12 >
2268. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sub 30!!
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:58:20 -0800 (PST)

thnx ill try that Daniel Beyer <dbeyer816@...> wrote: Speedcubing.com I'm learning Open Slot algs at http://www.puzzlingaddiction.com/Cube/f2l/ Traditional Algs at http://www.speedcubing.com/f2l_crossbottom_print.html I use case 1, 2, 5, and 7 ZB Algs (Case one is VH connected slots) At Hardwick's site on Speedcubing.com I'm learning COLL or use a 3 Look Last Layer for uncovered cases Dan Harris' Site is great too. Oh yea ... cubesmith.com for the new stickers that are on the way too! I still feel slow, like I can get so much faster ... I know I can do it :) So much hesitation and cube sticking :( --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > nice times! im in the 50's range, what site did u use for ure alg's? i wanna learn them to get consistent 40's! thnx > > Daniel Beyer <dbeyer816@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" > <dbeyer816@> wrote: > > > > I'm getting sub 30 solves now. I'm quite happy. Big thanks to > > Cubiks_Ruber for chatting w/ me while I practiced. He was a big big > > help. > > > > I'm sub 40 now and got two 28.xx solves today!! > > > > I'm doing a set right now ... In which I just got a 27.xx solve a new PB. > I use VH and ZBF2L algs which suit my style. I'm slow because I delay > so much. I'm getting better and am going to learn empty slot algs > that I got from a post here. > > Anyway the avg of 12 >> > > 46.03, 46.17, 40.14, 39.37, (49.48), (27.24), 42.58, 45.82, 32.09, > 49.12, 41.24, 43.31 => 42.59 <== My Avg of 12 > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2269. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 04:26:41 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" > <linkpoke@> wrote: > > > > 2. Permute edges, line one up with its side, do a Sune but > reposition > > that same edge. Now, keep on doing it until you get three of them > > properly in its place, then look at the other two. If they're > correct, > > then move on. > > And what do you do when they're not correct? > > Cheers! > Stefan > Oops, was just trying on one this morning. Figured out that you do the Sune until the one on the right is correct, turn the thing so that you're facing the right side, and keep on doing it until you get all the edges in the right place.
2270. bld video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 21:22:24 -0800

1 minute 13.37 seconds http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2271. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 00:14:14 -0600

Where did you find that shirt? ;P -Mike On 2/24/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2272. Re: bld video
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:07:23 -0000

Oh my god! You memorized in about 26 and solved in about 47! You're a robot! That was amazing!!!! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > Where did you find that shirt? ;P > > -Mike > > On 2/24/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2273. Re: bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:22:21 -0000

Wow that was impressive! Haha I like the smile at the very end! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Oh my god! You memorized in about 26 and solved in about 47! > You're a robot! That was amazing!!!! > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" > <mikeisadumbname@> wrote: > > > > Where did you find that shirt? ;P > > > > -Mike > > > > On 2/24/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2274. Re: bld video
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:23:49 -0000

Holy cow........
2275. Re: bld video
From: "Koen Heltzel" <allyourbase@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 07:57:04 -0000

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Did you laugh because it was such a fast time or because it was a 1337 time :D awesome vid... - Koen --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
2276. blindfolded
From: "ben41sbr2" <ben41sbr2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 10:44:36 -0000

ei!!! anybody here who knows what website is the easiest to understand and the fastest blindfolded method??? i would really appreciate it. thanks, keep on cubing!! JB
2277. Corners First Systems
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:04:53 -0000

http://cube.misto.cz/_MAIL_/corners.html I googled and found this. I can solve corners first in 15 minutes after looking at that. This can be a great mehtod. My teacher showed me his old method (Corners first just yesterday, so I decided to take a look. This is awsome. Are there any other sites that are faster? I just use COLL algs. I'm gonna practice this method now. I've gotten sub 30 w/ Cross first, sub 40 w/ Petrus. Not the fastest but I want to learn, so all you familiar with the cube take a look at this great site.
2278. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:40:05 -0300 (ART)

Oh, man...that's unbeliavable...Tyson, you're not human...definetly...haha Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: 1 minute 13.37 seconds http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2279. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:52:53 -0300 (ART)

And you're going to give us the scramble, right? pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaseeeeeee Pedro Pedro <pedrosino1@...> escreveu: Oh, man...that's unbeliavable...Tyson, you're not human...definetly...haha Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: 1 minute 13.37 seconds http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2280. Re: [Speed cubing group] Corners First Systems
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:50:24 -0600

http://rubikscube.info/ has some methods. On 2/25/06, Daniel Beyer <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > http://cube.misto.cz/_MAIL_/corners.html > > I googled and found this. I can solve corners first in 15 minutes > after looking at that. This can be a great mehtod. My teacher showed > me his old method (Corners first just yesterday, so I decided to take > a look. This is awsome. > > Are there any other sites that are faster? I just use COLL algs. I'm > gonna practice this method now. I've gotten sub 30 w/ Cross first, > sub 40 w/ Petrus. > > Not the fastest but I want to learn, so all you familiar with the > cube take a look at this great site. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2281. Re: megaminx algs
From: "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:20:27 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David " <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Anyhow, apparently megaminx algs are harder to find online than 3x3 > algs... I did some searching and found one site which explained how to > solve the LL, but to me it seemed really ineffective. Could anyone > give me a link to a megaminx LL solution? All I really need is a list > of the algs. I want a basic 4LLL, and I don't want to learn something > and later find out that it'[s a bad system, so I figured I'd just ask. > > (also, if you have any tips for the minx pre-LL, feel free to give > those too!) > > Thanks! > > David > Ok, not really what you want, but I'll tell you how I solve the megaminx: I solve the minx until the last layer and a corner edge- pair remains unsolved. I'll then solve the remaining 6 edges w/o any algs. Next I solve the corners with URU'L'UR'U'LU'+some easy setup moves. Works for me.
2282. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:11:01 -0600

get VLC player from http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ it plays everything. On 2/25/06, shamsul khawaja <shamsus2010@...> wrote: > Ehy do u have the movie in wav format or what ever the other one is... i cant view it > > Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: And you're going to give us the scramble, right? > pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaseeeeeee > > Pedro > > Pedro <pedrosino1@yahoo.com.br> escreveu: > Oh, man...that's unbeliavable...Tyson, you're not human...definetly...haha > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > SHAMSUL > > Khawaja > > > > --------------------------------- > Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2283. Re: megaminx algs
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 21:57:54 -0000

Hey Stefan, Well.. Yes I am happy with this alg... But what's the 9 move alg? :D :D - Joël --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > For a 3-cycle on the F face, like the ones on page 14 (at the > > bottom), try this: > > > > delta = R' / DR' / R > > epsilon = R' / DR / R > > > > algorithm: D / F / delta / F / epsilon / F2' / D' > > You're happy with an 11-move alg when there's one with 9? > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2284. Re: bld video
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:03:17 -0000

Wow, Tyson!! Imagine doing that 5+2 seconds faster!! Whahaahah, I am just kidding Tyson, really. It's very cool to see you do this so fast. Nice work! - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
2285. Re: blindfolded
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:07:40 -0000

Joël, Well.. If you are a speedcuber, and you know what cycles are, the easiest method to get reasonable times would be this one: http://www.stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/blindsolving/3x3/ Of course others might have other opinions about this, but I think this method is a method that enables you to memorise and solve efficiently, and once you are blindfolded, you don't have to think about anything at all. You just execute what you planned. I might be difficult to understand the method... If you need help, meet me on MSN: joel_vn [at] hotmail [dot] com. I like to help you. Here is another site that describes another method: http://cubefreak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/blindfoldcubing.html Good luck! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "ben41sbr2" <ben41sbr2@...> wrote: > > ei!!! > > anybody here who knows what website is the easiest to understand and > the fastest blindfolded method??? i would really appreciate it. > thanks, keep on cubing!! > > JB >
2286. Re: blindfolded
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:12:09 -0000

> Joël, > Where did that come from?! Sorry about that... I meant JB!!
2287. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:17:02 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...> wrote: > > Ok, not really what you want, but I'll tell you how I solve the > megaminx: I solve the minx until the last layer and a corner edge- > pair remains unsolved. I'll then solve the remaining 6 edges w/o any > algs. Next I solve the corners with URU'L'UR'U'LU'+some easy setup > moves. Works for me. Another entry for the "you know you've been cubing to much if ..." list: ... if you realize that the above algorithm does nothing except U', just by looking at it (i.e. before actually trying it on a real Megaminx). But I understand the idea, and I'll try it. I've been interested in something very similar already, and I should finally find out how to solve those last 6 edges (5 for 3x3) directly... Cheers! Stefan
2288. Re: Corners First Systems
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:17:18 -0000

Hey http://www.rubikscuberecord.com/ also describes a good system for the corners... I use that one for the 2x2... Not a lot of algorithms, but very efficient. You can combine it with other methods/ or change the order of the steps in special cases, to be even faster. And, being color neutral is very easy with this method: the patterns are very easy to recognise if you start with other colors, so you can always choose the easiest cases during preinspection. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > http://cube.misto.cz/_MAIL_/corners.html > > I googled and found this. I can solve corners first in 15 minutes > after looking at that. This can be a great mehtod. My teacher showed > me his old method (Corners first just yesterday, so I decided to take > a look. This is awsome. > > Are there any other sites that are faster? I just use COLL algs. I'm > gonna practice this method now. I've gotten sub 30 w/ Cross first, > sub 40 w/ Petrus. > > Not the fastest but I want to learn, so all you familiar with the > cube take a look at this great site. >
2289. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:20:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey Stefan, > > Well.. Yes I am happy with this alg... But what's the 9 move > alg? :D :D > > - Joël Yeah, it *is* good. I'm gonna try your way for 3-cycles. Very easy yet fast. The 9 move alg works the same way the corner-3-cycle PLL works in 9 moves, so if you understand that one then you should be able to translate it to Megaminx :-) Cheers! Stefan
2290. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:36:42 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hey Stefan, > > > > Well.. Yes I am happy with this alg... But what's the 9 move > > alg? :D :D > > > > - Joël > > Yeah, it *is* good. I'm gonna try your way for 3-cycles. Very easy yet > fast. It also works nicely for a double-swap... so in 35 out of 60 cases it saves 5 moves for permuting corners (not for the 24 five-cycles and the solved case). Cheers! Stefan
2291. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:41:11 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...> wrote: > > Ok, not really what you want, but I'll tell you how I solve the > megaminx: I solve the minx until the last layer and a corner edge- > pair remains unsolved. I'll then solve the remaining 6 edges w/o any > algs. Next I solve the corners with URU'L'UR'U'LU'+some easy setup > moves. Works for me. > Can you tell how many moves you need on average for the edges and how many for corners? I just tried one solve and corners were I think lucky, 18 moves (two 3-cycles). But edges took me way too long I think (I didn't count...). Cheers! Stefan
2292. Re: [Speed cubing group] PLL-help
From: "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 00:45:36 -0000

Thanks for the help Sapan....it's helpful. Zarqa --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > (R' U) (R U') R2 y' R' U' R U y x R (U R') U' (R2 B') > > from cubezone.be > > :) > > On 2/24/06, zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know how to exchange corners UBR with UBL, and exchange > > edges UR with UL????...i know about "F", but is there an easier way to > > do it??? Can someone help me? > > > > > > ---Zarqa Malik---- > > > > p.s.Tyson=COOL...:D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid >
2293. learning COLL
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:30:20 -0000

Greetings. I've been away, moving to Ohio. Anyways, what is the recommended way to learn COLL? Should I start with correctly permutated cases for the 6 formations or learn them as batches (i.e. all 6 T cases, then 6 U cases, etc.). As a side, I got a solve in 2 min 9 seconds, a personal best. The breakdown was cross 14 secs, F2L 1 min 26 and OLL/PLL 29 secs. Obviously, my F2L needs a lot of work. Thanks. Roger Wood
2294. Re: learning COLL
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 02:51:46 -0000

I'd say in "batches"...though I'm no COLL expert as I know around 15 cases myself and forget them regularly. Judging from your times, I'd say you need more practice before you move on to COLL. Make sure everything is solid and that you're doing it all in under a minute before you learn 40 new algorithms. Good luck! Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Greetings. > > I've been away, moving to Ohio. > > Anyways, what is the recommended way to learn COLL? Should I start > with correctly permutated cases for the 6 formations or learn them as > batches (i.e. all 6 T cases, then 6 U cases, etc.). > > As a side, I got a solve in 2 min 9 seconds, a personal best. The > breakdown was cross 14 secs, F2L 1 min 26 and OLL/PLL 29 secs. > Obviously, my F2L needs a lot of work. > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood >
2295. Linux Timer
From: "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 03:16:57 -0000

Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it...
2296. >>>> Technology Park <<<<
From: "dextergoldmanit" <dextergoldmanit@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:45:57 -0000

Latest updates on Wireless technology, Telecommunication , Network Security, VOIP, Voice over IP, Telecomm glossary, Computer Technology, Web Hosting , Domain Registeration, Dedicated Server. Go to : http://updatestechpark.blogspot.com/ Good Luck
2297. I broke some records...
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:01:53 -0000

42 cube marathon in 13 minutes 6 seconds. That's 18.71 seconds per cube. 3 in a row average 49.37 seconds, and best time 44.90. Average's times: (45.53) 51.14 48.68 46.43 51.93 49.24 (53.42) 48.71 52.87 48.82 45.93 49.91 Even the worst time is sub-55.
2298. 5x5x5 last edges pairing
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:18:11 -0000

I'm up to the point where two sets of edges are incorrect. Is there any easy (I don't care if it's slow) method of doing this?
2299. Re: I broke some records...
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:27:11 -0000

Wow, that's good. A couple of weeks ago my single solve average was at that. :P That marathon time is insane, though.
2300. Re: I broke some records...
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:39:35 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Wow, that's good. A couple of weeks ago my single solve average was at > that. :P > > That marathon time is insane, though. > I just improved it to 13 minutes 5 seconds. I must do sub-13 today.
2301. 42 cube marathon
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:37:10 -0000

I broke the record again: 12 minutes 20 seconds! About 17.62 seconds per cube. Thanks to Brent for the inspiration.
2302. Re: blindfolded
From: "ben41sbr2" <ben41sbr2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:21:07 -0000

ei, thanks! i really appreciate it, ill check this sites out. i am currently sub 23 and quite frankly i am aslo currently fed up with single solves using the 3x3, i like to explore other categories like the one-handed, blindfolded, but i don't know about solving with feet. i'll ask some questions if there are some parts that needs questions. and again, thanks! your currently no.10 on the world ranking right? keep on cubing!! JB --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Joël, > > Well.. If you are a speedcuber, and you know what cycles are, the > easiest method to get reasonable times would be this one: > > http://www.stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/blindsolving/3x3/ > > Of course others might have other opinions about this, but I think > this method is a method that enables you to memorise and solve > efficiently, and once you are blindfolded, you don't have to think > about anything at all. You just execute what you planned. > > I might be difficult to understand the method... If you need help, > meet me on MSN: joel_vn [at] hotmail [dot] com. I like to help you. > > Here is another site that describes another method: > > http://cubefreak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/blindfoldcubing.html > > Good luck! > > Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "ben41sbr2" > <ben41sbr2@> wrote: > > > > ei!!! > > > > anybody here who knows what website is the easiest to understand and > > the fastest blindfolded method??? i would really appreciate it. > > thanks, keep on cubing!! > > > > JB > > >
2303. Re: Linux Timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 12:33:05 -0000

Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the last three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically for linux? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it. .. >
2304. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:58:58 +0530

The JNetCube runs on linux as well. though i have myself never tried it. You just have to install the Java Runtime Environment on linux and it works. As for stephens question, any application with buttons,graphics and stuff can be made in any linux dev environments like Qt or KDevelop. Sachin. On 2/26/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the last > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically for > linux? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it. > .. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2305. Re: Linux Timer
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:28:43 -0000

I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a graphical library. I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works fine under linux. Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the last > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically for > linux? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it. > .. > > >
2306. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:30:18 -0800 (PST)

right now im trying to put some more stuff in it like having it make seesion averages and stuff. If you want to make a timer easily I would reccommend learning Visual Basic. In linux i used a program called "Gambas" and it is basically Visual Basic but for Linux. I wrote a timer for linux because the timer that is given on www.rubiks.dk only works in internet exlporer (well it works with Mozilla, but the sounds don't really work) and Linux doenst use Internet Explorer. And the other files on the yahoo speedcubing groups were made for windows and won't owrk on linux so i just decided to make my own. I'm gonna try to ask permission to use the sound files from the rubiks.dk timer so i can put it into the linux timer so it can have sound. here is what my newest version of it looks like. I just need to fix a small problem with the scrmabling algorithms: http://i1.tinypic.com/okodx5.png Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the last three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically for linux? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it. .. > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2307. German Cube Day 2006 - staying longer ?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:37:36 -0000

Hi, Ron already mentioned it in a mail to the people we know/suspect to come to the upcoming German Cube Day, now I'd like to give a little more detail... The German Cube Day will be on a Saturday. Only seldomly do I have the chance to meet other cubers in real life. So when I do, I'd like to get the most out of it. That's why I've decided to stay on Sunday as well, and I'll be very happy if others do the same so we can spend some more time together. I have booked my trains already. I will arrive Friday April 21 at 15:03. I will leave Sunday April 23 at 19:09. I have also reserved five two-bed-rooms in the youth hostel for the night from Saturday to Sunday. It costs 18 Euros per person (*) not including dinner/breakfast which cost about 3.50 Euros extra each if you want it. Please let me know as soon as you know whether you'd like to stay until Sunday as well. I can still cancel or add rooms, but the earlier I know the better. If you want to make it depend on others, e.g. "I'd like to stay if at least N others stay" that's ok, just let me know so I can collect and combine this data. I understand that reasoning, that's why I took the first step so you know at least one cuber (me) *will* be there. You can reach me at "pochmann at gmx dot de", please use "GCD" as email subject. (*) The 15 Euros is our overall average I was told for our main night Friday to Saturday. Normally beds in the large rooms cost a little less and in small rooms a little more. Sorry if that caused confusion. Cheers! Stefan Pochmann
2308. Re: Linux Timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 13:46:45 -0000

Well ... :-) Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > graphical library. > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > fine under linux. > > Sven > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the last > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically for > > linux? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it. > > .. > > > > > >
2309. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 05:52:57 -0800 (PST)

most linux OS' these days come with either one of the two most popular gui's. KDE desktop environment and/or Gnome desktop environment. Not many linux distro's these day's come with only the command line interface. But this timer I made will not work for windows cuz it's not in a .exe format so wont run in windows if thats what u were asking.... im dong kinda understand your question lol. The exe files that windows has wont run in linux because of the file structure and stuff..lol Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Well ... :-) Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > graphical library. > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > fine under linux. > > Sven > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the last > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically for > > linux? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt to > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs it. > > .. > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2310. Re: [Speed cubing group] 4*4*4 : 9 pairs of edge at once
From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:09:20 -0000

Hi Ron, 5 - L' f b' (Rrl)2 (Ll)' (Dd)' R' U R U' (Dd) (Ll) Have fun, Frédérick --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Frédérick, > > Cool algorithm! > But how do you easily set up this 9 cycle? And what if there is a 5 cycle > instead of a 9 cycle? > > Have fun, > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frédérick BADIE" <f_badie@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:06 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] 4*4*4 : 9 pairs of edge at once > > > > Hi, > > > > I use this alg to solve 9 pairs of edge at once : > > > > L' F' U (Rr)' (Dd)' D' U' R U D R' (Dd) (Rr) > > > > 9 pairs is a max, 8 more often. > > The first 3 moves don't touch the edge-pair, but it's an help to > > preposition them. > > > > Frédérick. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2311. Re: [Speed cubing group] 4*4*4 : 9 pairs of edge at once
From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:17:35 -0000

or 5 - L' d u' (Rrl)2 (Ll)' (Dd)' R' U R U' (Dd) (Ll) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> wrote: > > Hi Ron, > > 5 - L' f b' (Rrl)2 (Ll)' (Dd)' R' U R U' (Dd) (Ll) > > Have fun, > Frédérick > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" > <ron@> wrote: > > > > Frédérick, > > > > Cool algorithm! > > But how do you easily set up this 9 cycle? And what if there is a 5 > cycle > > instead of a 9 cycle? > > > > Have fun, > > > > Ron > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frédérick BADIE" <f_badie@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 12:06 AM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] 4*4*4 : 9 pairs of edge at once > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I use this alg to solve 9 pairs of edge at once : > > > > > > L' F' U (Rr)' (Dd)' D' U' R U D R' (Dd) (Rr) > > > > > > 9 pairs is a max, 8 more often. > > > The first 3 moves don't touch the edge-pair, but it's an help to > > > preposition them. > > > > > > Frédérick. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2312. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 3.14159265358979
From: "Parth Upadhyay" <parth.upadhyay@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:23:42 -0600

oh. I got like 14% geekish tendencies. im not a geek either. -parth [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2313. [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:40:16 -0000

Well I'm pretty sure that the program you made will not be compatible with Windows since Gambas (and its libraries) seems to be only available under Linux (but I might be mistaken). Stefan, you are right you can use GTK+ or/and QT programmed GUI under Windows as long as you have the associed libraries and you recompile the program for Windows (as windows executable are different from Linux ones). It's probably also compatible with cygwin (without recompiling it). Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > most linux OS' these days come with either one of the two most popular gui's. KDE desktop environment and/or Gnome desktop environment. Not many linux distro's these day's come with only the command line interface. But this timer I made will not work for windows cuz it's not in a .exe format so wont run in windows if thats what u were asking.... im dong kinda understand your question lol. The exe files that windows has wont run in linux because of the file structure and stuff..lol > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Well ... :-) > > Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I > really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for > linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe > most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, > no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of > these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on > both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > > graphical library. > > > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > > fine under linux. > > > > Sven > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the > last > > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically > for > > > linux? > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt > to > > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs > it. > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2314. Re: Linux Timer
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:42:20 -0000

Gambas is the Visual Basic of Linux. Before I got my stackmat, I used JNetCube, no problems... And a little advice... don't use kubuntu, go slackware or something, it treats you like a kid.... ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Well I'm pretty sure that the program you made will not be compatible > with Windows since Gambas (and its libraries) seems to be only > available under Linux (but I might be mistaken). > > Stefan, you are right you can use GTK+ or/and QT programmed GUI under > Windows as long as you have the associed libraries and you recompile > the program for Windows (as windows executable are different from > Linux ones). It's probably also compatible with cygwin (without > recompiling it). > > Sven > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > most linux OS' these days come with either one of the two most > popular gui's. KDE desktop environment and/or Gnome desktop > environment. Not many linux distro's these day's come with only the > command line interface. But this timer I made will not work for > windows cuz it's not in a .exe format so wont run in windows if thats > what u were asking.... im dong kinda understand your question lol. The > exe files that windows has wont run in linux because of the file > structure and stuff..lol > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@> wrote: Well ... :-) > > > > Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I > > really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for > > linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe > > most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, > > no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of > > these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on > > both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > > > graphical library. > > > > > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > > > fine under linux. > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the > > last > > > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically > > for > > > > linux? > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt > > to > > > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs > > it. > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2315. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:41:24 -0800 (PST)

Thnx for that. I didnt kno about JnetCube, but now i do so im prob gonna start using it now. I guess ill end the development of my program lol sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well I'm pretty sure that the program you made will not be compatible with Windows since Gambas (and its libraries) seems to be only available under Linux (but I might be mistaken). Stefan, you are right you can use GTK+ or/and QT programmed GUI under Windows as long as you have the associed libraries and you recompile the program for Windows (as windows executable are different from Linux ones). It's probably also compatible with cygwin (without recompiling it). Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > most linux OS' these days come with either one of the two most popular gui's. KDE desktop environment and/or Gnome desktop environment. Not many linux distro's these day's come with only the command line interface. But this timer I made will not work for windows cuz it's not in a .exe format so wont run in windows if thats what u were asking.... im dong kinda understand your question lol. The exe files that windows has wont run in linux because of the file structure and stuff..lol > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Well ... :-) > > Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I > really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for > linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe > most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, > no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of > these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on > both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > > graphical library. > > > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > > fine under linux. > > > > Sven > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the > last > > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically > for > > > linux? > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt > to > > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs > it. > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2316. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:01:39 -0600

no no, don't end development. just cause other people have things doesn't mean you can't write one. i mean, if nothing else, it would be good practice in programming. even though jnetcube is awesome, what's the harm in writing your own timer? On 2/26/06, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > Thnx for that. I didnt kno about JnetCube, but now i do so im prob gonna start using it now. I guess ill end the development of my program lol > > sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well I'm pretty sure that the program you made will not be compatible > with Windows since Gambas (and its libraries) seems to be only > available under Linux (but I might be mistaken). > > Stefan, you are right you can use GTK+ or/and QT programmed GUI under > Windows as long as you have the associed libraries and you recompile > the program for Windows (as windows executable are different from > Linux ones). It's probably also compatible with cygwin (without > recompiling it). > > Sven > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham > <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > > > most linux OS' these days come with either one of the two most > popular gui's. KDE desktop environment and/or Gnome desktop > environment. Not many linux distro's these day's come with only the > command line interface. But this timer I made will not work for > windows cuz it's not in a .exe format so wont run in windows if thats > what u were asking.... im dong kinda understand your question lol. The > exe files that windows has wont run in linux because of the file > structure and stuff..lol > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Well ... :-) > > > > Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I > > really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for > > linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe > > most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, > > no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of > > these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on > > both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > > > graphical library. > > > > > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > > > fine under linux. > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the > > last > > > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer specifically > > for > > > > linux? > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an attempt > > to > > > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone needs > > it. > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2317. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Linux Timer
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 08:11:12 -0800

and...when I wrote JNetCube, there were plenty of other timers out there. Maybe everyone will like yours better and you will replace it! With programming, reinventing the wheel is usually a lot of fun because it trains you for the days when you decide to build something truly unique. Besides that, it's always fun to use your own stuff rather than programs written by other people :) -Chris On 2/26/06, Sapan Upadhyay <cubekid@...> wrote: > > no no, don't end development. just cause other people have things > doesn't mean you can't write one. i mean, if nothing else, it would be > good practice in programming. even though jnetcube is awesome, what's > the harm in writing your own timer? > > On 2/26/06, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > Thnx for that. I didnt kno about JnetCube, but now i do so im prob gonna > start using it now. I guess ill end the development of my program lol > > > > sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Well I'm pretty sure that > the program you made will not be compatible > > with Windows since Gambas (and its libraries) seems to be only > > available under Linux (but I might be mistaken). > > > > Stefan, you are right you can use GTK+ or/and QT programmed GUI under > > Windows as long as you have the associed libraries and you recompile > > the program for Windows (as windows executable are different from > > Linux ones). It's probably also compatible with cygwin (without > > recompiling it). > > > > Sven > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham > > <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > > > > > most linux OS' these days come with either one of the two most > > popular gui's. KDE desktop environment and/or Gnome desktop > > environment. Not many linux distro's these day's come with only the > > command line interface. But this timer I made will not work for > > windows cuz it's not in a .exe format so wont run in windows if thats > > what u were asking.... im dong kinda understand your question lol. The > > exe files that windows has wont run in linux because of the file > > structure and stuff..lol > > > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: Well ... :-) > > > > > > Does "linux" really come with a standard graphical interface? What I > > > really meant was that I'm curious how you would create a timer for > > > linux that can *not* be used on let's say Windows. Cause I believe > > > most (or even all?) GUI's for linux are also available for Windows, > > > no? And I think most programming languages are available for both of > > > these OSs, too, so I'd expect a simple program like this to work on > > > both (at least the source code)... But I don't know Gambas... > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, sgowal <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think by "specifically for linux", he meant using GTK+ as a > > > > graphical library. > > > > > > > > I also do not see why one should need such a timer! JNetCube works > > > > fine under linux. > > > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, I've been *wanting* to install linux on my laptop for the > > > last > > > > > three years :-). Hey, how/why does one write a timer > specifically > > > for > > > > > linux? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" > > > > > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone use linux on their computer? I have made an > attempt > > > to > > > > > > make a linux timer and i have a screenshot here: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://i1.tinypic.com/ok0ljd.png > > > > > > > > > > > > I will upload the files to the yahoogroups files if anyone > needs > > > it. > > > > > .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle > > game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational game and puzzle > > Word > > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > Puzzle games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay > games Educational game and > puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle > game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2318. Re: 42 cube marathon
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:04:17 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > I broke the record again: 12 minutes 20 seconds! > About 17.62 seconds per cube. Thanks to Brent for the inspiration. You should tell these guys how dumb they are: http://tinyurl.com/z4hst Wow, it also made its way to rubiks.com: http://tinyurl.com/fjljm Cheers! Stefan
2319. Re: 42 cube marathon
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 17:12:25 -0000

> You should tell these guys how dumb they are: > http://tinyurl.com/z4hst Mmh, let me be a little more polite. Please replace "dumb" with "ignorant" or "naive". Cheers! Stefan
2320. Re: German Cube Day 2006 - staying longer ?
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:36:15 -0000

Hi Stefan! Me and Kåre will be there from Thursday to Sunday. Our flight arrives to Düsseldorf April 20, 1:55pm, so I guess we will be in Gütersloh 2-3 hours after that. Our flight back home leaves Düsseldorf at 4:10pm so I guess we're leaving around 12am on april 23. Are you saying that you are arranging the bookings of the rooms, or should I do that myself?? I'm really looking forward to thiscompetition, and to meet a lot of non-swedish cubers. I haven't been able to cube lately because my right thumb and lower arm is aching, but it's getting better so I'm ready to turn a few faces. :-) /Gunnar Krig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > Ron already mentioned it in a mail to the people we know/suspect to > come to the upcoming German Cube Day, now I'd like to give a little > more detail... > > The German Cube Day will be on a Saturday. Only seldomly do I have the > chance to meet other cubers in real life. So when I do, I'd like to > get the most out of it. That's why I've decided to stay on Sunday as > well, and I'll be very happy if others do the same so we can spend > some more time together. I have booked my trains already. > > I will arrive Friday April 21 at 15:03. > I will leave Sunday April 23 at 19:09. > > I have also reserved five two-bed-rooms in the youth hostel for the > night from Saturday to Sunday. It costs 18 Euros per person (*) not > including dinner/breakfast which cost about 3.50 Euros extra each if > you want it. Please let me know as soon as you know whether you'd like > to stay until Sunday as well. I can still cancel or add rooms, but the > earlier I know the better. > > If you want to make it depend on others, e.g. "I'd like to stay if at > least N others stay" that's ok, just let me know so I can collect and > combine this data. I understand that reasoning, that's why I took the > first step so you know at least one cuber (me) *will* be there. > > You can reach me at "pochmann at gmx dot de", please use "GCD" as > email subject. > > (*) The 15 Euros is our overall average I was told for our main night > Friday to Saturday. Normally beds in the large rooms cost a little > less and in small rooms a little more. Sorry if that caused confusion. > > Cheers! > Stefan Pochmann >
2321. Re: Average in f2l moves and about short cuts
From: "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:01:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, shamsul khawaja <shamsus2010@...> wrote: > > I remember reading that (sorry cant remember who wrote it) it takes them around 20 moves average on f2l > is that tru for everbody that does isub 30s? > it takes me average 28-30 moves > Do u guys use the fredrich or some "Super complex/dangerous f2l shortcuts" like the ones on puzzling addiction . I remeber people also saying that they arent very comfortable and dangerous (if u mess up )since you move the cross layer. They rather do the 8 move to slot the pairs in > I use some but i rarely get around 20 moves. even without aligning and then reconizing what to do. > so what do you guys do? > > > SHAMSUL > > Khawaja > > > > --------------------------------- > Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Fridrich says on her page that it takes her about 35 moves for the f2l (7 moves per cross and corner-edge pair up). 28 moves is really great, if you can do it fast. I can normally do the f2l quicker if I can plan a 2x2x2 during the inspection time.
2322. Re: megaminx algs
From: "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:58:37 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" > <erik_jernqvist@> wrote: > > > > Ok, not really what you want, but I'll tell you how I solve the > > megaminx: I solve the minx until the last layer and a corner edge- > > pair remains unsolved. I'll then solve the remaining 6 edges w/o any > > algs. Next I solve the corners with URU'L'UR'U'LU'+some easy setup > > moves. Works for me. > > > > Can you tell how many moves you need on average for the edges and how > many for corners? I just tried one solve and corners were I think > lucky, 18 moves (two 3-cycles). But edges took me way too long I think > (I didn't count...). > > Cheers! > Stefan > I did 10 solves with the edges, and I got these results (in moves): 12, 20, 19, 11, 12, 19, 12, 13, 16, 11 Avarage: 14.5 moves (I think) Try to position edges in the top layer while bringing bad edges down in the slot. My megaminx kills my wrists.
2323. Re: Average in f2l moves and about short cuts
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:18:09 -0000

I average about 30 moves for F2L, and my average for the whole cube is under 16 seconds. Yes, I don't use all the ones from puzzling adiction... I prefer to use a lot of two generator moves. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, shamsul khawaja <shamsus2010@...> wrote: > > I remember reading that (sorry cant remember who wrote it) it takes them around 20 moves average on f2l > is that tru for everbody that does isub 30s? > it takes me average 28-30 moves > Do u guys use the fredrich or some "Super complex/dangerous f2l shortcuts" like the ones on puzzling addiction . I remeber people also saying that they arent very comfortable and dangerous (if u mess up )since you move the cross layer. They rather do the 8 move to slot the pairs in > I use some but i rarely get around 20 moves. even without aligning and then reconizing what to do. > so what do you guys do? > > > SHAMSUL > > Khawaja > > > > --------------------------------- > Find your next car at Yahoo! Canada Autos > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2324. assembling/disassembling 4x4 DIY
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:01:01 -0800 (PST)

I bought a 4x4 minicube from mefferts recently. I loosened it to spray it, and i accidently let a bunch of pieces fall off... hmm. I am bad at putting stuff back together (not a very good engineer -.-). The directions that come with it are very confusing becacuse the person who wrote it was not fluent in English. So. Does anybody have a link that will explain to me how to reassemble this cube? If no such page exists, don't worry about it.. I'll just struggle through it -_-. I just figured that if someone had already written directions, it'd be nice to have. Thanks David __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2325. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:01:32 +0000 (GMT)

Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one person...hahahaha) Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: 1 minute 13.37 seconds http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2326. Re: assembling/disassembling 4x4 DIY
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:05:35 -0000

Macky's page: http://tinyurl.com/sy88j Good luck! Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I bought a 4x4 minicube from mefferts recently. I loosened it to spray it, and i accidently let a bunch of pieces fall off... hmm. I am bad at putting stuff back together (not a very good engineer -.- ). The directions that come with it are very confusing becacuse the person who wrote it was not fluent in English. > > So. Does anybody have a link that will explain to me how to reassemble this cube? > > If no such page exists, don't worry about it.. I'll just struggle through it -_-. I just figured that if someone had already written directions, it'd be nice to have. > > Thanks > > David > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2327. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:03:53 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" > > <erik_jernqvist@> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, not really what you want, but I'll tell you how I solve the > > > megaminx: I solve the minx until the last layer and a corner > edge- > > > pair remains unsolved. I'll then solve the remaining 6 edges w/o > any > > > algs. Next I solve the corners with URU'L'UR'U'LU'+some easy > setup > > > moves. Works for me. > > > > > > > Can you tell how many moves you need on average for the edges and > how > > many for corners? I just tried one solve and corners were I think > > lucky, 18 moves (two 3-cycles). But edges took me way too long I > think > > (I didn't count...). > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > I did 10 solves with the edges, and I got these results (in moves): > 12, 20, 19, 11, 12, 19, 12, 13, 16, 11 > Avarage: 14.5 moves (I think) > Try to position edges in the top layer while bringing bad edges down > in the slot. My megaminx kills my wrists. > Thanks! I also did 10 solves now and this is what I got: 12 12 13 12 14 9 8 9 20 23 I'm so annoyed by the costly mistakes at the end that I refuse to compute the average :-) But I was terribly slow, I think mainly getting used to the relative order of the edges is hard for me now. I'll practice this further, it does look very good. Hey Per, any hints how I can solve some corners along the last edges on the fly? Cheers! Stefan
2328. Re: assembling/disassembling 4x4 DIY
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:27:02 -0000

Hi David, Macky's page is very nice for nice.. I also used it. Important is: even if just a few pieces came out, its not a good idea to assamble the cube by sqeezing the parts in (like on some other puzzles). You have to use a screwdriver to take at least one screw of one of the centres out, then fit in the other pieces. Good luck! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I bought a 4x4 minicube from mefferts recently. I loosened it to spray it, and i accidently let a bunch of pieces fall off... hmm. I am bad at putting stuff back together (not a very good engineer -.- ). The directions that come with it are very confusing becacuse the person who wrote it was not fluent in English. > > So. Does anybody have a link that will explain to me how to reassemble this cube? > > If no such page exists, don't worry about it.. I'll just struggle through it -_-. I just figured that if someone had already written directions, it'd be nice to have. > > Thanks > > David > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2329. Re: German Cube Day 2006 - staying longer ?
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:31:30 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > Ron already mentioned it in a mail to the people we know/suspect to > come to the upcoming German Cube Day, now I'd like to give a little > more detail... > > The German Cube Day will be on a Saturday. Only seldomly do I have the > chance to meet other cubers in real life. So when I do, I'd like to > get the most out of it. Yes! I know what you are saying... That's why I didn't get much sleep in Florida... Not because I love being tired and having jet lags :). But in this case, I think I'll just have to do whatever the Dutch guys do... That's probably easier for me. I am looking forward to seeing you again! - Joël.
2330. Re: German Cube Day 2006 - staying longer ?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:52:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan! > > Me and Kåre will be there from Thursday to Sunday. Our flight arrives > to Düsseldorf April 20, 1:55pm, so I guess we will be in Gütersloh 2-3 > hours after that. Our flight back home leaves Düsseldorf at 4:10pm so > I guess we're leaving around 12am on april 23. Are you saying that you > are arranging the bookings of the rooms, or should I do that myself? Hi Gunnar, well... Ron asked me to reserve rooms at the youth hostel, so I'm doing that part, but Ron keeps track of who wants beds/rooms of those that we have reserved. That's because not everybody wants to stay at the youth hostel or doesn't know yet or whatever. So far I have reserved 41 beds for the main night from Friday to Saturday. Earlier today Ron sent an email to the people already registered. I can see Kare but I don't see you, so maybe you didn't get that email? Kare is also listed with "NO BED", so if you want that changed, let Ron know. I have also reserved 10 beds (5 double rooms) for the night from Saturday to Sunday, since I was hoping some others might stay with me. I haven't reserved beds for the night Thursday to Friday yet, though I probably will soon. Ron has asked me about it because 6-10 Hungarians will arrive Thursday night (and leave Sunday morning). Cheers! Stefan
2331. Re: German Cube Day 2006 - staying longer ?
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:33:01 -0000

Hi! I saw the mail a moment ago. I wasn't on the list, but I mailed Ron about rooms so I'll just wait and see what he answers. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan! > > > > Me and Kåre will be there from Thursday to Sunday. Our flight > arrives > > to Düsseldorf April 20, 1:55pm, so I guess we will be in Gütersloh > 2-3 > > hours after that. Our flight back home leaves Düsseldorf at 4:10pm > so > > I guess we're leaving around 12am on april 23. Are you saying that > you > > are arranging the bookings of the rooms, or should I do that myself? > > > Hi Gunnar, > > well... Ron asked me to reserve rooms at the youth hostel, so I'm > doing that part, but Ron keeps track of who wants beds/rooms of those > that we have reserved. That's because not everybody wants to stay at > the youth hostel or doesn't know yet or whatever. > > So far I have reserved 41 beds for the main night from Friday to > Saturday. Earlier today Ron sent an email to the people already > registered. I can see Kare but I don't see you, so maybe you didn't > get that email? Kare is also listed with "NO BED", so if you want that > changed, let Ron know. > > I have also reserved 10 beds (5 double rooms) for the night from > Saturday to Sunday, since I was hoping some others might stay with me. > I haven't reserved beds for the night Thursday to Friday yet, though I > probably will soon. Ron has asked me about it because 6-10 Hungarians > will arrive Thursday night (and leave Sunday morning). > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2332. Re: WC 2005 Movie on Google
From: "rubiks1938" <rubiks1938@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:42:35 -0000

Hey everyone, It seems that a few people couldn't get on to Google Video yesterday, and couldn't view my movie. It's working again now, and I am wondering if anyone else has been able to view it from Google Video. When you get there, just search for "camann" and my movie will come up. Have fun! Andy http://andyscubepage.tk
2333. hello all!
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:42:58 -0500 (EST)

hi, i joined this group today and just wanted to introduce myself. my name is kyle simmons, im from Toronto Canada. i began solving the rubik's cube about nine months ago. im not a really serious speedcuber, in that i dont go to competitions, but im not that fast anyway. thats is one reason i joined this group. the other is that there is only one other kid that can solve the cube in my area. he godsolves anyway. my current records are as follows: 2x2x2 - 19 sec. 2x2x2 - 53 sec.(one hand) 3x3x3 - 49 sec. 3x3x3 - aprox 5 mins(one hand) 4x4x4 - only solved once 5x5x5 - only solved 4 times.(about 40 mins) so im not really very good yet but my goal is to get to about 30 sec. for 3x3x3. i dont really practice much for anything else. -kyle simmons __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
2334. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: WC 2005 Movie on Google
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:09:35 -0800

I watched it a few days ago off google with no trouble at all. Thanks for providing a means to your video for those of us with out any way to download a torrent :) Nice video. -Chris On 2/26/06, rubiks1938 <rubiks1938@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > It seems that a few people couldn't get on to Google Video yesterday, and > couldn't view my > movie. It's working again now, and I am wondering if anyone else has been > able to view it > from Google Video. When you get there, just search for "camann" and my > movie will come up. > Have fun! > > Andy > > http://andyscubepage.tk > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2335. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:12:52 -0800

D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > person...hahahaha) > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...tech.edu> escreveu: > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2336. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 42 cube marathon
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 18:12:08 -0800

The 42 cube marathon is really just an unofficial thing. It's not recognized by the WCA as a category and I don't think it's recognized by Guinness either... not that the latter matters. It's sad that the press picks up on things inaccurately. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:12 AM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: >> You should tell these guys how dumb they are: >> http://tinyurl.com/z4hst > > Mmh, let me be a little more polite. Please replace "dumb" with > "ignorant" or "naive". > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2337. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:34:02 -0000

Doesn't anyone here stalk Tyson? ***spoiler alert*** >From http://www.xanga.com/FiddleTFM "Good strong BLD solve: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' Interesting you try reading the following, and then attempting the solve. Edge Orientation: spot the hex-flip Corner Orientation: The 5-corner twist is setup so you don't need to do setup moves, but you will have to rotate the cube slightly. Then, there are three more corners to deal with. Corner Permutation: The first group of 6 should be quick, but try to fix the corner parity only using 14 moves. (R' U R U')x3 Edge Orientation: Just go!" Good job. =) Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > > person...hahahaha) > > > > Pedro > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > >
2338. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:41:34 -0000

(look at L face) R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' (look at F face, then D face) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 R' (turn quarter turn clockwise) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 R' (back to F face) D2 R2 (corner cycle UBL UFL UFR) R2 D2 D' (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') D B2 (corner cycle UFL UFR UBR) (U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U' R2) B2 F' (R2 D' R2 M2 4(M'U) R2 M2 D R2) F F2 (turn quarter turn clockwise) (M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U M U2) F2 (back to F face) U B' F' (edge cycle forwards) F B U' F2 B2 (edge cycle backwards) B2 F2 D B2 (edge cycle forwards) B2 D' D F2 (PLL alg, dual adjacent-edge swap) F2 D' 1:22 Memorization was very easy on this one but there were a lot of steps; the corner orientations were such that all U/D colors were on the L face, and there were two pairs of corresponding 2-1-corner twist orientations across the U and D faces on the R face. The corners took me the longest but in general there wasn't anything gross. The edges were very agreeable and didn't have any real issues at all -- no pausing needed, especially the last step which usually requires a bit of finaggling to get it to work (since the edge permutation cycles were in two large cycles, usually I simplify until the end and then figure out how to arrange them, but in this case it was a quick setup to a PLL alg). --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > > person...hahahaha) > > > > Pedro > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2339. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:44:52 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mr.(Mike) Tyson of cube, Well done, congrats for super human bld solve!! I could not download your video as it 16 MB and it takes minimum 5 hrs to download. Is there anyway I could watch your video? Wow. no cornor is oriented correctly in that scramble! j. bernett orlando Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > person...hahahaha) > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2340. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:45:23 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mr.(Mike) Tyson of cube, Well done, congrats for super human bld solve!! I could not download your video as it 16 MB and it takes minimum 5 hrs to download. Is there anyway I could watch your video? Wow. no cornor is oriented correctly in that scramble! by best time so far j. bernett orlando Tyson Mao <tmao@....edu> wrote: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > person...hahahaha) > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2341. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 05:47:06 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mr.(Mike) Tyson of cube, Well done, congrats for super human bld solve!! I could not download your video as it 16 MB and it takes minimum 5 hrs to download. Is there anyway I could watch your video? Wow. no cornor is oriented correctly in that scramble! My best time so far by your method is 4 min 54.xy sec. Avg is 5 to 6 min. j. bernett orlando Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > person...hahahaha) > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...u> escreveu: > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2342. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:45:00 -0800

Hi Everyone, I wanted to let everyone know that my solve was fake. I did not solve the Rubik's Cube blindfolded in 1:13.37 seconds. (Though, when I hit the timer, I did indeed read 1:13.37. Funny isn't it?) I saw the solve and decided to practice a few times just to see what type of execution I could do. You'll see that with a 23 second memorization time (which of course was fake...) the execution time was 50 seconds, which actually is quite doable. Anyway, this fake solve brought up a few interesting points. I think 23 second memorization is near impossible. You'll notice my tapping of the cube. Did I actually look at each piece when i tapped it? The tapping, as one may assume, is me going through each piece in the cycle. Well, to go from one piece to the next in the cycle, you have to look at one position, process the piece, and then look to the next position. You'll see that I don't really turn the cube so I'm not really "looking" at the next position because I memorized it previously, I already knew where it was. This is, of course, unless my tapping was fake as well, but that would have been such a nasty distraction. So I guess I'm very interested in what type of memory techniques are used to memorize the cube in under 25 seconds. Even if I could look around the three-dimensional cube that fast, how can one process information in the mind so quickly? If you could process information in a one-pass memorization format at 1 second per piece of information, memorization of the cube could take place in about 30 seconds every time. That, my friend, would be absolutely beautiful. Also, solving with absolutely no delays is very difficult at that speed. If I'm moving a cube that fast, I'm focusing on the physical moving of the cubes. If I slow down a little bit, which might increase the overall physical execution time of the cube by as little as five seconds, the execution would be mindless enough for me to think ahead. Anyway, I have some interesting question regarding the way Marcus did the solve because 1:22 is 7 seconds faster than my fastest real solve. Again, sorry for lying to everyone. The algorithm R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' you used to orient four corners... where did you find that? Did you find that in A-cube or something? I'm wondering why you use this algorithm. Is it because of hand pain or some reason? Because for five moves more, you could execute that using a two generator (only R and U) and furthermore, the 22-move algorithm for the four corner twist way easier to execute than that 17 move pain in the butt you're using. Try a "Double Sune (TM by Lars Petrus Grand Copywriter of All Cubing)" + a U-permutation. An example of this algorithm is: (R U R' U R U' R' U R U2 R')(R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R). I know the R' connected to the R2 is redundant, but it illustrates the connectedness of the two algorithms and the speed at which it could be done with. I would definitely suggest using this algorithm as opposed to the 17-move algorithm you have there. I could easily shave off a few seconds. Just to let you know, F D2 (L' B' L U')x5 D2 F solves all six-edges much more quickly. Your general solve technique is very similar to what I used to do. When I started BLD cubing in New Mexico, especially with the orientations, I favored simplicity over efficiency. Unfortunately, the sheer number of moves with me moving at maximum hand speed still produced execution times of around 70 seconds. I'm much better now that I'm able to find more artful solutions to corner orientations and edge orientations (see hex-flip). For the corner orientation in this case, I did y' [(U2 R U2 R')(U R U' R')]x2 y and then solved the remaining three (which is probably faster unless your pair-corner orientation of Sunes is absolutely insane). Anyway, you said you memorized this one relatively fast but didn't give an actual time. I typically don't know the times of my memorization if I don't look up at the clock. Anyway, if you had 15 second memorization, that would leave under 70 seconds for the solve. Your execution must be at the same hand speed as mine to accomplish this, and you must be lacking delays in totality. How do you cube through this hand pain? Also, is the reason that you remember these obscure BLD algorithms, such as odd 4-twists and corner diagonal permutations, but not OLL and PLL because you practice BLD more? Why are you using algorithms such as (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') in favor of more rudimentary algorithms such as (R' F R F')x3, especially if algorithm retention is difficult for you? By the way, my actual time for this solve was a big fat fail. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:41 PM, kyuubree wrote: > (look at L face) R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' > (look at F face, then D face) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 > R' > (turn quarter turn clockwise) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 > R' (back to F face) > > D2 R2 (corner cycle UBL UFL UFR) R2 D2 > D' (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') D > B2 (corner cycle UFL UFR UBR) > (U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U' R2) B2 > > F' (R2 D' R2 M2 4(M'U) R2 M2 D R2) F > F2 (turn quarter turn clockwise) (M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U M U2) F2 > (back to F face) > > U B' F' (edge cycle forwards) F B U' > F2 B2 (edge cycle backwards) B2 F2 > D B2 (edge cycle forwards) B2 D' > D F2 (PLL alg, dual adjacent-edge swap) F2 D' > > > 1:22 > > Memorization was very easy on this one but there were a lot of > steps; the corner orientations were such that all U/D colors were on > the L face, and there were two pairs of corresponding 2-1-corner > twist orientations across the U and D faces on the R face. The > corners took me the longest but in general there wasn't anything > gross. The edges were very agreeable and didn't have any real > issues at all -- no pausing needed, especially the last step which > usually requires a bit of finaggling to get it to work (since the > edge permutation cycles were in two large cycles, usually I simplify > until the end and then figure out how to arrange them, but in this > case it was a quick setup to a PLL alg). > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 > D' >> >> I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: >> >>> Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least > one >>> person...hahahaha) >>> >>> Pedro >>> >>> Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: >>> 1 minute 13.37 seconds >>> >>> http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI >>> >>> Tyson Mao >>> Astrophysics '06 >>> California Institute of Technology >>> >>> >>> >>> SPONSORED LINKS >>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational >>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>> >>> >>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >>> Service. >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>> Internet rápida e grátis. 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2343. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:46:05 -0800

Hey J. Bernett Orlando, Don't download the video. It's fake. I was just curious what other people would do with the solve, and what better motivation to get everyone to try it when they think I did a 1:13? Sorry for abusing all of your trust. I'll never do it again—I promise! Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:47 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > Dear Mr.(Mike) Tyson of cube, > Well done, congrats for super human bld solve!! I > could not download your video as it 16 MB and it takes minimum 5 hrs > to download. Is there anyway I could watch your video? > Wow. no cornor is oriented correctly in that scramble! > My best time so far by your method is 4 min 54.xy sec. > Avg is 5 to 6 min. > j. bernett orlando > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > >> Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one >> person...hahahaha) >> >> Pedro >> >> Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: >> 1 minute 13.37 seconds >> >> http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational >> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games >> >> --------------------------------- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> Service. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2344. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:16:25 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mr.(Mike) Tyson of cube, Sorry for hitting the same message 3 times(fighting with my key board). Ha! Ha! At last you bit not only our ears but also our eyes. Do not take it seriously. It is just fun!!! I recently watched the video of Mike Tyson biting the ears of his oppenent. Hmmm. If you learn phonetic sound and its value system, memorising the cube in sub-20 sec is possible. You need to remember only 10 nouns for EP + CP. I will try my best to prove it. I am motivated and inspired. J.Bernett Orlando Tyson Mao <tmao@....edu> wrote: Hey J. Bernett Orlando, Don't download the video. It's fake. I was just curious what other people would do with the solve, and what better motivation to get everyone to try it when they think I did a 1:13? Sorry for abusing all of your trust. I'll never do it again—I promise! Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:47 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > Dear Mr.(Mike) Tyson of cube, > Well done, congrats for super human bld solve!! I > could not download your video as it 16 MB and it takes minimum 5 hrs > to download. Is there anyway I could watch your video? > Wow. no cornor is oriented correctly in that scramble! > My best time so far by your method is 4 min 54.xy sec. > Avg is 5 to 6 min. > j. bernett orlando > > Tyson Mao wrote: > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > >> Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one >> person...hahahaha) >> >> Pedro >> >> Tyson Mao escreveu: >> 1 minute 13.37 seconds >> >> http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational >> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games >> >> --------------------------------- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> Service. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2345. off topic (USA memory champioship, 11 mar 2006)
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:24:26 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Blindfold solvers, The memory champs in usa might help you. The defending champion is Ram Prasad, who is a MS student and a friend of my dad. The only Grand Master of Memory from USA is Scott Hagwood. Plz visit http://usamemorychampionship.com/ J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2346. Re: [Speed cubing group] off topic (USA memory champioship, 11 mar 2006)
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:34:14 -0800

Also, if you have any links for certain memorization techniques that you might use, I would be interested in that! -Chris On 2/26/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Dear Blindfold solvers, > The memory champs in usa might help you. The defending champion is Ram > Prasad, who is a MS student and a friend of my dad. The only Grand Master of > Memory from USA is Scott Hagwood. Plz visit > http://usamemorychampionship.com/ > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2347. Re: [Speed cubing group] off topic (USA memory champioship, 11 mar 2006)
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:31:26 -0800

Thank you J.Bernett Orlando. After reading about the meeting you had with Ron, I am extremely impressed by both you and your father's ability to memorize. Thanks for the link, it is very interesting! -Chris On 2/26/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Dear Blindfold solvers, > The memory champs in usa might help you. The defending champion is Ram > Prasad, who is a MS student and a friend of my dad. The only Grand Master of > Memory from USA is Scott Hagwood. Plz visit > http://usamemorychampionship.com/ > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2348. Most Influential Cuber (Update)
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:38:12 -0000

Hello everyone, Life has been extremely busy, but the nominations have been tallied. A poll will be setup shortly. Thank you all for your patience! -Richard
2349. Re: [Speed cubing group] off topic (USA memory champioship, 11 mar 2006)
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:56:55 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mr.Chris Hunt, We learnt a lot from Ron uncle. I love him. You can visit my site www.freewebs.com/bernett. There you can find my techniques in memory techniques page. I am learning by attending memory workshops conducted by my dad at various places. I am lucky to attend many times.it helped me to master it. Now it has started boring to learn the same techniques again and again. But when I apply the techniques in my learning school subjects, blindfold cubing, memorising numbers, cards etc are very interesting. Have fun! J.Bernett Orlando Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: Also, if you have any links for certain memorization techniques that you might use, I would be interested in that! -Chris On 2/26/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Dear Blindfold solvers, > The memory champs in usa might help you. The defending champion is Ram > Prasad, who is a MS student and a friend of my dad. The only Grand Master of > Memory from USA is Scott Hagwood. Plz visit > http://usamemorychampionship.com/ > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2350. Re: [Speed cubing group] off topic (USA memory champioship, 11 mar 2006)
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 07:57:36 +0000 (GMT)

Dear Mr.Chris Hunt, We learnt a lot from Ron uncle. I love him. You can visit my site www.freewebs.com/bernett. There you can find my techniques in memory techniques page. I am learning by attending memory workshops conducted by my dad at various places. I am lucky to attend many times.it helped me to master it. Now it has started boring to learn the same techniques again and again. But when I apply the techniques in my learning school subjects, blindfold cubing, memorising numbers, cards etc are very interesting. Have fun! J.Bernett Orlando Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: Also, if you have any links for certain memorization techniques that you might use, I would be interested in that! -Chris On 2/26/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Dear Blindfold solvers, > The memory champs in usa might help you. The defending champion is Ram > Prasad, who is a MS student and a friend of my dad. The only Grand Master of > Memory from USA is Scott Hagwood. Plz visit > http://usamemorychampionship.com/ > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2351. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:13:32 -0000

Gah I feel like I am always under interrogation by you Tyson, but here goes: With regards to the corner orienting alg: I suppose you can do it that way, yes. I just have a set of algs I use for certain corner cases. This also allows for easier memorization. For instance, when you see a Sune, you don't think "this corner has a twist of 1, this one of 2, etc". You see the pattern and know what to execute. This move doesn't hurt so much because it is nice and smooth for me; I found the move by using Cube Explorer. "Just to let you know, F D2 (L' B' L U')x5 D2 F solves all six-edges much more quickly." I have seen this alg somewhere before and it was interesting, but I tend to avoid moves that involve lots of L's (I am not very good with my left hand in terms of triggering). I tend to stick with algs that involve U, R, and F. Also if you wonder about processing information quickly, I was hoping my DDR videos would help hint at this. As you build certain reflexes to things you can glance at them or even do them without much thought. Even if there's a heavy arrow-load coming up the screen at 600+ beats per minute my fingers will just go automatically. It's strange when sometimes I will see a huge gross pattern and my hands are hitting them just fine, but my eyes are going "how am I reading this? I can't read this crap!" For example, PSMO is something I can barely see consciously with my eyes at that speed, but my brain/hands are faster and can read them more quickly. Consider when someone scares you -- you react before you consciously know what happened. I never said algorithm retention was hard, I just didn't care to practice speedcubing much anymore. I do it once in a while but not for speed. If I want to practice visual+speed simultaneously I play DDR, lol. As for memorization time, I didn't take note but I can estimate it was around this: 1.5 seconds for corner orientation, seeing all the U/D colors on the L face plus the easy pairs on the R face was too blatant to forget easily (the patterns on the R face I associate with a mental hook called a devil skull, similar to the cowskull OLL arrangement only the horns point "up" and not "out"). 4 seconds for the corners maybe. If you start at corner 1 you find that it's a very smooth curve as you turn the cube around, by this I mean you don't have to flip the cube around crazily each time you see a new corner. It starts on the left side and generally flows around to the right. I spent an extra second or so looking for that last corner pair. A quick glance at the D face shows that everything's fine down there in terms of edge orientation. There's an glaring orientation error on the F face on the right side, as well as the back (even more obvious since it's correctly permuted). The top layer has three wrong but the UF piece has a D color, so it's fine). This observation took maybe 3.5 seconds. Edge permutations, I see an arrow shape in terms of vector placements for the first four edges in the cycle. I keep my fingers on the edges as I observe. This also helps you keep track and lets you know where not to look. The second "cycle" curves down to a three-cycle vector-arrangement of edges going back with yet another curve starting from UF to DL identical to the one that begins this very cycle (UR to DF). If you understand vectors much, they can be picked up and thrown about. The beginning "vector" here is the same as the "end" vector of the cycle. In all, memorizing this took 7 seconds I am guessing. So a total of 16 seconds for memorization or so. Mind you that time is unusual and by no means average, but this solve is just loaded with streams and easy-to-recall patterns. As for handspeed, it might differ from yours. When I solve I don't stop to think much unless there's a really disgusting arrangement or parity error. This solve did not have a parity error, at that. Also in terms of handspeed, the edges were very fast for me. No awkward setups and very easy cycles. Try the moves I listed above, they are quick to fly through. Strangely enough I did not know of (R' F R F')x3! I will have to try this out. With regard to fast memory techniques, all I can say is move things into the realm of reflex. Stories and memory hooks and binary conversions are very effective for relays and larger cubes, but for the 3x3x3 at least, looking for recognizable corner patterns and thinking of cycles as visual vectors (Chris Hardwick can attest for the speedup in memory with this approach) will help tons. It is also useful to practice learning where a piece should go relative to the cube. If you see, say a red-and-yellow edge somewhere, you should instantly know where it should go relative to where you're looking. This will allow you to make a quicker vector arrangement. I am a little disappointed though! I thought that was a real solve. Why would you create a fake video? Anyways hope that answers your questions. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I wanted to let everyone know that my solve was fake. I did not solve > the Rubik's Cube blindfolded in 1:13.37 seconds. (Though, when I hit > the timer, I did indeed read 1:13.37. Funny isn't it?) I saw the > solve and decided to practice a few times just to see what type of > execution I could do. You'll see that with a 23 second memorization > time (which of course was fake...) the execution time was 50 seconds, > which actually is quite doable. Anyway, this fake solve brought up a > few interesting points. > > I think 23 second memorization is near impossible. You'll notice my > tapping of the cube. Did I actually look at each piece when i tapped > it? The tapping, as one may assume, is me going through each piece in > the cycle. Well, to go from one piece to the next in the cycle, you > have to look at one position, process the piece, and then look to the > next position. You'll see that I don't really turn the cube so I'm not > really "looking" at the next position because I memorized it > previously, I already knew where it was. This is, of course, unless my > tapping was fake as well, but that would have been such a nasty > distraction. > > So I guess I'm very interested in what type of memory techniques are > used to memorize the cube in under 25 seconds. Even if I could look > around the three-dimensional cube that fast, how can one process > information in the mind so quickly? If you could process information > in a one-pass memorization format at 1 second per piece of information, > memorization of the cube could take place in about 30 seconds every > time. That, my friend, would be absolutely beautiful. > > Also, solving with absolutely no delays is very difficult at that > speed. If I'm moving a cube that fast, I'm focusing on the physical > moving of the cubes. If I slow down a little bit, which might increase > the overall physical execution time of the cube by as little as five > seconds, the execution would be mindless enough for me to think ahead. > > Anyway, I have some interesting question regarding the way Marcus did > the solve because 1:22 is 7 seconds faster than my fastest real solve. > Again, sorry for lying to everyone. > > The algorithm R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' you used > to orient four corners... where did you find that? Did you find that > in A-cube or something? I'm wondering why you use this algorithm. Is > it because of hand pain or some reason? Because for five moves more, > you could execute that using a two generator (only R and U) and > furthermore, the 22-move algorithm for the four corner twist way easier > to execute than that 17 move pain in the butt you're using. Try a > "Double Sune (TM by Lars Petrus Grand Copywriter of All Cubing)" + a > U-permutation. An example of this algorithm is: (R U R' U R U' R' U R > U2 R')(R2 U' R' U' R U R U R U' R). I know the R' connected to the R2 > is redundant, but it illustrates the connectedness of the two > algorithms and the speed at which it could be done with. I would > definitely suggest using this algorithm as opposed to the 17-move > algorithm you have there. I could easily shave off a few seconds. > > Just to let you know, F D2 (L' B' L U')x5 D2 F solves all six- edges > much more quickly. > > Your general solve technique is very similar to what I used to do. > When I started BLD cubing in New Mexico, especially with the > orientations, I favored simplicity over efficiency. Unfortunately, the > sheer number of moves with me moving at maximum hand speed still > produced execution times of around 70 seconds. I'm much better now > that I'm able to find more artful solutions to corner orientations and > edge orientations (see hex-flip). For the corner orientation in this > case, I did y' [(U2 R U2 R')(U R U' R')]x2 y and then solved the > remaining three (which is probably faster unless your pair-corner > orientation of Sunes is absolutely insane). > > Anyway, you said you memorized this one relatively fast but didn't give > an actual time. I typically don't know the times of my memorization if > I don't look up at the clock. Anyway, if you had 15 second > memorization, that would leave under 70 seconds for the solve. Your > execution must be at the same hand speed as mine to accomplish this, > and you must be lacking delays in totality. How do you cube through > this hand pain? > > Also, is the reason that you remember these obscure BLD algorithms, > such as odd 4-twists and corner diagonal permutations, but not OLL and > PLL because you practice BLD more? Why are you using algorithms such > as (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') in favor of more rudimentary > algorithms such as (R' F R F')x3, especially if algorithm retention is > difficult for you? > > By the way, my actual time for this solve was a big fat fail. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:41 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > (look at L face) R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' > > (look at F face, then D face) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 > > R' > > (turn quarter turn clockwise) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 > > R' (back to F face) > > > > D2 R2 (corner cycle UBL UFL UFR) R2 D2 > > D' (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') D > > B2 (corner cycle UFL UFR UBR) > > (U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U' R2) B2 > > > > F' (R2 D' R2 M2 4(M'U) R2 M2 D R2) F > > F2 (turn quarter turn clockwise) (M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U M U2) F2 > > (back to F face) > > > > U B' F' (edge cycle forwards) F B U' > > F2 B2 (edge cycle backwards) B2 F2 > > D B2 (edge cycle forwards) B2 D' > > D F2 (PLL alg, dual adjacent-edge swap) F2 D' > > > > > > 1:22 > > > > Memorization was very easy on this one but there were a lot of > > steps; the corner orientations were such that all U/D colors were on > > the L face, and there were two pairs of corresponding 2-1-corner > > twist orientations across the U and D faces on the R face. The > > corners took me the longest but in general there wasn't anything > > gross. The edges were very agreeable and didn't have any real > > issues at all -- no pausing needed, especially the last step which > > usually requires a bit of finaggling to get it to work (since the > > edge permutation cycles were in two large cycles, usually I simplify > > until the end and then figure out how to arrange them, but in this > > case it was a quick setup to a PLL alg). > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 > > D' > >> > >> I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > >> > >>> Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least > > one > >>> person...hahahaha) > >>> > >>> Pedro > >>> > >>> Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > >>> 1 minute 13.37 seconds > >>> > >>> http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > >>> > >>> Tyson Mao > >>> Astrophysics '06 > >>> California Institute of Technology > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> SPONSORED LINKS > >>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational > >>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > > games > >>> > >>> --------------------------------- > >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >>> > >>> > >>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >>> > >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > >>> Service. > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------- > >>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > >>> Internet rápida e grátis. 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2352. Re: hello all!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:29:25 -0000

Hi Kyle, Welcome in this group. If you have any questions, you can post them in this group, or e-mail me...: jnoort [at] gmail [dot] com. Byeee! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > hi, > i joined this group today and just wanted to introduce > myself. > my name is kyle simmons, im from Toronto Canada. > i began solving the rubik's cube about nine months > ago. im not a really serious speedcuber, in that i > dont go to competitions, but im not that fast anyway. > thats is one reason i joined this group. the other is > that there is only one other kid that can solve the > cube in my area. he godsolves anyway. my current > records are as follows: > 2x2x2 - 19 sec. > 2x2x2 - 53 sec.(one hand) > 3x3x3 - 49 sec. > 3x3x3 - aprox 5 mins(one hand) > 4x4x4 - only solved once > 5x5x5 - only solved 4 times.(about 40 mins) > > so im not really very good yet but my goal is to get > to about 30 sec. for 3x3x3. i dont really practice > much for anything else. > > -kyle simmons > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca >
2353. Re: megaminx algs
From: "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:43:21 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" > <erik_jernqvist@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" > > > <erik_jernqvist@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ok, not really what you want, but I'll tell you how I solve the > > > > megaminx: I solve the minx until the last layer and a corner > > edge- > > > > pair remains unsolved. I'll then solve the remaining 6 edges w/o > > any > > > > algs. Next I solve the corners with URU'L'UR'U'LU'+some easy > > setup > > > > moves. Works for me. > > > > > > > > > > Can you tell how many moves you need on average for the edges and > > how > > > many for corners? I just tried one solve and corners were I think > > > lucky, 18 moves (two 3-cycles). But edges took me way too long I > > think > > > (I didn't count...). > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > > I did 10 solves with the edges, and I got these results (in moves): > > 12, 20, 19, 11, 12, 19, 12, 13, 16, 11 > > Avarage: 14.5 moves (I think) > > Try to position edges in the top layer while bringing bad edges down > > in the slot. My megaminx kills my wrists. > > > > Thanks! I also did 10 solves now and this is what I got: > 12 12 13 12 14 9 8 9 20 23 > > I'm so annoyed by the costly mistakes at the end that I refuse to > compute the average :-) > > But I was terribly slow, I think mainly getting used to the relative > order of the edges is hard for me now. I'll practice this further, it > does look very good. Hey Per, any hints how I can solve some corners > along the last edges on the fly? > > Cheers! > Stefan > Keep in mind that the cases I did was with 4 or 6 bad edges (since I didn't want any lucky cases). I recently did a solve with the edges were solved in 7 moves, the corners take way to many moves, I think. Keeping a 2x2 block in the last layer is very easy, and could speed up the solving of the corners somewhat.
2354. Re: off topic (USA memory champioship, 11 mar 2006)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:07:00 -0000

This is Creepy... Just yesterday I was thinking about this sort of thing...hmmm...Only I only thought about maybe numbers...and then this shows up ?!?!?! Weird... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Dear Blindfold solvers, > The memory champs in usa might help you. The defending champion is Ram Prasad, who is a MS student and a friend of my dad. The only Grand Master of Memory from USA is Scott Hagwood. Plz visit > http://usamemorychampionship.com/ > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2355. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:08:18 -0000

So when does it premiere? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > Doesn't anyone here stalk Tyson? > > > ***spoiler alert*** > From http://www.xanga.com/FiddleTFM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Good strong BLD solve: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' > F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > Interesting you try reading the following, and then attempting the solve. > > Edge Orientation: spot the hex-flip > Corner Orientation: The 5-corner twist is setup so you don't need to > do setup moves, but you will have to rotate the cube slightly. Then, > there are three more corners to deal with. > Corner Permutation: The first group of 6 should be quick, but try to > fix the corner parity only using 14 moves. (R' U R U')x3 > Edge Orientation: Just go!" > > Good job. =) > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > > > person...hahahaha) > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > >
2356. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:16:00 -0000

Chris, Do you have yahoo or MSN??? If so add me: yahoo: chbouchard777 MSN: logitewty [AT] hotmail [DOT] com Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > So when does it premiere? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > Doesn't anyone here stalk Tyson? > > > > > > ***spoiler alert*** > > From http://www.xanga.com/FiddleTFM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Good strong BLD solve: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F > D' > > F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > > > Interesting you try reading the following, and then attempting the > solve. > > > > Edge Orientation: spot the hex-flip > > Corner Orientation: The 5-corner twist is setup so you don't need > to > > do setup moves, but you will have to rotate the cube slightly. > Then, > > there are three more corners to deal with. > > Corner Permutation: The first group of 6 should be quick, but try > to > > fix the corner parity only using 14 moves. (R' U R U')x3 > > Edge Orientation: Just go!" > > > > Good job. =) > > > > Macky > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 > U2 D' > > > > > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > > > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at > least one > > > > person...hahahaha) > > > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > > > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > >
2357. Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:15:09 -0000

Well, Lately I've been solving the bigger cubes (biggest so far is 10x10) I started on thursday I think with 7x7, then friday 8x8, saturday 9x9, and sunday 10x10 (I did a 6x6 too) And I am trying to find the most efficient way of doing these, and I think it can apply to 5x5 as well. Ok, here goes... 1: Solve all Centers 2: using the (Ll) F' L F (Ll)' Solve the white edges and put them in place 3: Put in first layer (white) corners 4: Solve the "middle" edges (like the cage) so it solves them directly, and you won't have to solve as 3x3 at the end. 5: Solve LL corners 6: Solve LL edges (using 3 cycles, or commutators or whatever you want) I haven't tried it yet, but I woke up this morning and this was the first thing that came to my mind. It solves all the pieces directly, so you don't have to do anything extra at the end. I'll try it today sometime hopefully. Craig PS - This post is long for me...
2358. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:18:37 -0000

OK I added you to MSN. But you're offline :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Chris, > > Do you have yahoo or MSN??? If so add me: yahoo: chbouchard777 > MSN: logitewty [AT] hotmail [DOT] com > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > So when does it premiere? > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > Doesn't anyone here stalk Tyson? > > > > > > > > > ***spoiler alert*** > > > From http://www.xanga.com/FiddleTFM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Good strong BLD solve: D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F > > D' > > > F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > > > > > Interesting you try reading the following, and then attempting the > > solve. > > > > > > Edge Orientation: spot the hex-flip > > > Corner Orientation: The 5-corner twist is setup so you don't need > > to > > > do setup moves, but you will have to rotate the cube slightly. > > Then, > > > there are three more corners to deal with. > > > Corner Permutation: The first group of 6 should be quick, but try > > to > > > fix the corner parity only using 14 moves. (R' U R U')x3 > > > Edge Orientation: Just go!" > > > > > > Good job. =) > > > > > > Macky > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 > > U2 D' > > > > > > > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > > > > > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at > > least one > > > > > person...hahahaha) > > > > > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > > > > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > > > > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2359. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:47:57 +0000 (GMT)

I couldn't solve with this...I had 4 edges unoriented... and what "(turn quarter turn clockwise)" means? Pedro kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: (look at L face) R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' (look at F face, then D face) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 R' (turn quarter turn clockwise) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 R' (back to F face) D2 R2 (corner cycle UBL UFL UFR) R2 D2 D' (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') D B2 (corner cycle UFL UFR UBR) (U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U' R2) B2 F' (R2 D' R2 M2 4(M'U) R2 M2 D R2) F F2 (turn quarter turn clockwise) (M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U M U2) F2 (back to F face) U B' F' (edge cycle forwards) F B U' F2 B2 (edge cycle backwards) B2 F2 D B2 (edge cycle forwards) B2 D' D F2 (PLL alg, dual adjacent-edge swap) F2 D' 1:22 Memorization was very easy on this one but there were a lot of steps; the corner orientations were such that all U/D colors were on the L face, and there were two pairs of corresponding 2-1-corner twist orientations across the U and D faces on the R face. The corners took me the longest but in general there wasn't anything gross. The edges were very agreeable and didn't have any real issues at all -- no pausing needed, especially the last step which usually requires a bit of finaggling to get it to work (since the edge permutation cycles were in two large cycles, usually I simplify until the end and then figure out how to arrange them, but in this case it was a quick setup to a PLL alg). --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least one > > person...hahahaha) > > > > Pedro > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2360. Re: [Speed cubing group] Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:14:37 +0000 (GMT)

I found and tried this method in www.speedcubing.com in the links section in the page http://www.geocities.com/abcmcfarren/math/rp/RubPro1.htm In my opinion, it may not be as fast as converting into 3*3*3. I learnt the method but did not master it as my initial feeling was that "it is not so fast as the normal 3*3*3 method". When I find time I will try my best. How long it takes you in both the method? Plz share your views. J.Bernett Orlando Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: Well, Lately I've been solving the bigger cubes (biggest so far is 10x10) I started on thursday I think with 7x7, then friday 8x8, saturday 9x9, and sunday 10x10 (I did a 6x6 too) And I am trying to find the most efficient way of doing these, and I think it can apply to 5x5 as well. Ok, here goes... 1: Solve all Centers 2: using the (Ll) F' L F (Ll)' Solve the white edges and put them in place 3: Put in first layer (white) corners 4: Solve the "middle" edges (like the cage) so it solves them directly, and you won't have to solve as 3x3 at the end. 5: Solve LL corners 6: Solve LL edges (using 3 cycles, or commutators or whatever you want) I haven't tried it yet, but I woke up this morning and this was the first thing that came to my mind. It solves all the pieces directly, so you don't have to do anything extra at the end. I'll try it today sometime hopefully. Craig PS - This post is long for me... SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2361. Re: Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:29:55 -0000

Hey Bernett, That method is similar to the method I was talking about, but not the same. Right now I use a modification of Per's cage method, and average between 5 and 6 minutes with it. I tried to learn the convert to 3x3x3 way back when, but didn't want to memorise all the algorithms for the last 2 edges, I'd be able to do it now because of my knowledge of 3 cycles and the like. But I think that solving everything directly like this is a lot like Per's cage method, except you get more freedom for the centers. THat is pretty much the only advantage of this over the cage method. I'll try it during my spare which is next period. I'll let you know what I think about it. Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > I found and tried this method in www.speedcubing.com in the links section in the page http://www.geocities.com/abcmcfarren/math/rp/RubPro1.htm > In my opinion, it may not be as fast as converting into 3*3*3. I learnt the method but did not master it as my initial feeling was that "it is not so fast as the normal 3*3*3 method". When I find time I will try my best. > > How long it takes you in both the method? Plz share your views. > J.Bernett Orlando > Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > Well, > > Lately I've been solving the bigger cubes (biggest so far is 10x10) I > started on thursday I think with 7x7, then friday 8x8, saturday 9x9, > and sunday 10x10 (I did a 6x6 too) And I am trying to find the most > efficient way of doing these, and I think it can apply to 5x5 as well. > > Ok, here goes... > 1: Solve all Centers > 2: using the (Ll) F' L F (Ll)' Solve the white edges and put them in place > 3: Put in first layer (white) corners > 4: Solve the "middle" edges (like the cage) so it solves them > directly, and you won't have to solve as 3x3 at the end. > 5: Solve LL corners > 6: Solve LL edges (using 3 cycles, or commutators or whatever you want) > > I haven't tried it yet, but I woke up this morning and this was the > first thing that came to my mind. It solves all the pieces directly, > so you don't have to do anything extra at the end. I'll try it today > sometime hopefully. > > Craig > > PS - This post is long for me... > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2362. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:41:32 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" <erik_jernqvist@...> wrote: > > Keep in mind that the cases I did was with 4 or 6 bad edges (since I > didn't want any lucky cases). I recently did a solve with the edges > were solved in 7 moves, the corners take way to many moves, I think. > Keeping a 2x2 block in the last layer is very easy, and could speed > up the solving of the corners somewhat. Ah, ok... yeah, I didn't look for that. I think my first 9-mover had all edge oriented already. The 8-mover had two badly oriented I think, but overall the situation was easy to solve (obviously :-). What are your times for the whole Megaminx, and what for those last 6 edges and 6 corners? Cheers! Stefan
2363. Re: hello all!
From: thewetdog <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:55:54 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > hi, > i joined this group today and just wanted to introduce > myself. > my name is kyle simmons, im from Toronto Canada. > i began solving the rubik's cube about nine months > ago. im not a really serious speedcuber, in that i > dont go to competitions, but im not that fast anyway. > thats is one reason i joined this group. the other is > that there is only one other kid that can solve the > cube in my area. he godsolves anyway. my current > records are as follows:> > -kyle simmons > Yes, welcome to the group. However, if you are from Toronto, Canada, you are mistaken in stating there is only one other kid in your area that can solve the cube. There are a few cubers in the GTA. Some are quite fast, too. What does it mean this other kid of which you speak "godsolves"? Does that have something to do with God's Algorithm? -Dave Campbell
2364. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:01:46 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > "Just to let you know, F D2 (L' B' L U')x5 D2 F solves all six-edges > much more quickly." > > I have seen this alg somewhere before and it was interesting, but I > tend to avoid moves that involve lots of L's (I am not very good > with my left hand in terms of triggering). I tend to stick with > algs that involve U, R, and F. (F E2) (R' F R U)*5 (E2 F') or (R' D' U') (R U R' F)*5 (U D R) or (my favourite) (z' y') (U R) (R U R' F)*5 (R' U') (y z) Cheers! Stefan
2365. Re: megaminx algs
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:17:43 -0000

Hi Stefan, A while ago, you said you have a 9 move threecycle for the LL corners (with corners already oriented)... I asked for the alg, but you didn't give it :s... Can you give me the alg you use for that? - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "erik_jernqvist" > <erik_jernqvist@> wrote: > > > > Keep in mind that the cases I did was with 4 or 6 bad edges (since I > > didn't want any lucky cases). I recently did a solve with the edges > > were solved in 7 moves, the corners take way to many moves, I think. > > Keeping a 2x2 block in the last layer is very easy, and could speed > > up the solving of the corners somewhat. > > Ah, ok... yeah, I didn't look for that. I think my first 9-mover had > all edge oriented already. The 8-mover had two badly oriented I think, > but overall the situation was easy to solve (obviously :-). > > What are your times for the whole Megaminx, and what for those last 6 > edges and 6 corners? > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2366. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:32:11 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > A while ago, you said you have a 9 move threecycle for the LL > corners (with corners already oriented)... I asked for the alg, but > you didn't give it :s... Can you give me the alg you use for that? > > - Joël. A "while" ago? Wasn't that just the day before yesterday? :-) I did answer that it's basically the same as for 3x3, but I didn't explicitly write it down cause I thought you'd find out yourself, and more importantly because of the lack of common notation for Megaminx : -) Ok, I'll try... (R2 DR' R) L2 (R' DR R) L2' R2 Is that understandable/correct? It's not at all like I'd execute it, but I tried to use the same faces you and Daniel used. Cheers! Stefan
2367. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:40:58 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > A while ago, you said you have a 9 move threecycle for the LL > > corners (with corners already oriented)... I asked for the alg, but > > you didn't give it :s... Can you give me the alg you use for that? > > > > - Joël. > > A "while" ago? Wasn't that just the day before yesterday? :-) > > I did answer that it's basically the same as for 3x3, but I didn't > explicitly write it down cause I thought you'd find out yourself, and > more importantly because of the lack of common notation for Megaminx : > -) > > Ok, I'll try... > (R2 DR' R) L2 (R' DR R) L2' R2 Uh, to make it more obvious, let me write it down as a conjugated commutator: R2' [R' DR' R, L2] R2 For 3x3, it would be (R B' R) F2 (R' B R) F2 R2 or R2 [R' B' R, F2] R2 Cheers! Stefan
2368. Re: megaminx algs
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:47:33 -0000

Hey Stefan, In Daniel Hayes notations, L and DR commute, so do L and R... So your moves don't really do anything at all... I'll try to figure it out though.. I also had a hard time with the notation, btw.. :) - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > > > A while ago, you said you have a 9 move threecycle for the LL > > > corners (with corners already oriented)... I asked for the alg, > but > > > you didn't give it :s... Can you give me the alg you use for that? > > > > > > - Joël. > > > > A "while" ago? Wasn't that just the day before yesterday? :-) > > > > I did answer that it's basically the same as for 3x3, but I didn't > > explicitly write it down cause I thought you'd find out yourself, > and > > more importantly because of the lack of common notation for Megaminx > : > > -) > > > > Ok, I'll try... > > (R2 DR' R) L2 (R' DR R) L2' R2 > > Uh, to make it more obvious, let me write it down as a conjugated > commutator: > R2' [R' DR' R, L2] R2 > > For 3x3, it would be > (R B' R) F2 (R' B R) F2 R2 > or > R2 [R' B' R, F2] R2 > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2369. Re: megaminx algs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:55:22 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey Stefan, > > In Daniel Hayes notations, L and DR commute, so do L and R... So > your moves don't really do anything at all... I'll try to figure it > out though.. > > I also had a hard time with the notation, btw.. :) > > - Joël. Yeah ok... comes from his sick way of holding the Megaminx :-). Looking at his notation diagram I must replace my R with D, then we have: (D2 DR' D) L2 (D' DR D) L2' D2 Cheers! Stefan
2370. Re: Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:54:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > but didn't want to memorise all the > algorithms for the last 2 edges, I'd be able to do it now because of > my knowledge of 3 cycles and the like. Perhaps I've misunderstood your proposal: Surely you /will/ still end up with 2 swapped edges (5x5x5 "wings") in 50% of cases. If so, 3-cycles won't be enough. Mike
2371. Re: Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger
From: "Joe Allen" <wallen@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:08:53 -0000

Hey Craig, Oddly enough...I used to be really in to computer cubes and then took about a two year break. Just last week I got involved again, and my upcoming goal is to solve the 20x20x20 in sub-2hrs. But anyway, I use David Barr's applet on www.puzzlingaddiction.com (follow the links), and the neat thing about it is it will record the times you get for solving each different cube, and record them in a database. Then if you visit the best times list, you will find everyone else's solve, and by clicking on them, you will be able to see how they were solved. So if you are looking for methods that some people use, I would suggest checking out that site. By the way, where do go to find those larger order cubes? Joe Allen --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Well, > > Lately I've been solving the bigger cubes (biggest so far is 10x10) I > started on thursday I think with 7x7, then friday 8x8, saturday 9x9, > and sunday 10x10 (I did a 6x6 too) And I am trying to find the most > efficient way of doing these, and I think it can apply to 5x5 as well. > > Ok, here goes... > 1: Solve all Centers > 2: using the (Ll) F' L F (Ll)' Solve the white edges and put them in place > 3: Put in first layer (white) corners > 4: Solve the "middle" edges (like the cage) so it solves them > directly, and you won't have to solve as 3x3 at the end. > 5: Solve LL corners > 6: Solve LL edges (using 3 cycles, or commutators or whatever you want) > > I haven't tried it yet, but I woke up this morning and this was the > first thing that came to my mind. It solves all the pieces directly, > so you don't have to do anything extra at the end. I'll try it today > sometime hopefully. > > Craig > > PS - This post is long for me... >
2372. Re: Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 20:31:05 -0000

I'll reply to Mike and Joe in one post: Mike: In that case you would do the 4x4 parity fix, and yes, it does come up a lot... Joe: I use Gabbasoft Cube Demo, I don't like the other interface... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Allen" <wallen@...> wrote: > > Hey Craig, > > Oddly enough...I used to be really in to computer cubes and then > took about a two year break. Just last week I got involved again, and > my upcoming goal is to solve the 20x20x20 in sub-2hrs. But anyway, I > use David Barr's applet on www.puzzlingaddiction.com (follow the > links), and the neat thing about it is it will record the times you > get for solving each different cube, and record them in a database. > Then if you visit the best times list, you will find everyone else's > solve, and by clicking on them, you will be able to see how they were > solved. > > So if you are looking for methods that some people use, I would > suggest checking out that site. By the way, where do go to find those > larger order cubes? > > Joe Allen > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Well, > > > > Lately I've been solving the bigger cubes (biggest so far is 10x10) I > > started on thursday I think with 7x7, then friday 8x8, saturday 9x9, > > and sunday 10x10 (I did a 6x6 too) And I am trying to find the most > > efficient way of doing these, and I think it can apply to 5x5 as well. > > > > Ok, here goes... > > 1: Solve all Centers > > 2: using the (Ll) F' L F (Ll)' Solve the white edges and put them in > place > > 3: Put in first layer (white) corners > > 4: Solve the "middle" edges (like the cage) so it solves them > > directly, and you won't have to solve as 3x3 at the end. > > 5: Solve LL corners > > 6: Solve LL edges (using 3 cycles, or commutators or whatever you want) > > > > I haven't tried it yet, but I woke up this morning and this was the > > first thing that came to my mind. It solves all the pieces directly, > > so you don't have to do anything extra at the end. I'll try it today > > sometime hopefully. > > > > Craig > > > > PS - This post is long for me... > > >
2373. re: hello all!
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:52:11 -0500 (EST)

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > hi, > i joined this group today and just wanted to introduce > myself. > my name is kyle simmons, im from Toronto Canada. > i began solving the rubik's cube about nine months > ago. im not a really serious speedcuber, in that i > dont go to competitions, but im not that fast anyway. > thats is one reason i joined this group. the other is > that there is only one other kid that can solve the > cube in my area. he godsolves anyway. my current > records are as follows:> > -kyle simmons > Yes, welcome to the group. However, if you are from Toronto, Canada, you are mistaken in stating there is only one other kid in your area that can solve the cube. There are a few cubers in the GTA. Some are quite fast, too. What does it mean this other kid of which you speak "godsolves"? Does that have something to do with God's Algorithm? -Dave Campbell i only mean in my school or in the etobicoke area that i know. and yes, he solves for the least moves posible with no time limit, i have heard of this being called "godsolving". actually, i found out today that he has joined this group (i think) but has not yet posted. -kyle simmons __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
2374. Re: [Speed cubing group] re: hello all!
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 15:05:33 -0600

On 2/27/06, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > and yes, he solves for the least moves posible > with no time limit, i have heard of this being called > "godsolving". actually, i found out today that he has > joined this group (i think) but has not yet posted. > > -kyle simmons That's generally referred to as fewest moves solving in the cubing community. -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2375. New Member - Rubik help
From: "Kelvin Cracknell" <kelvin@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:28:52 -0000

My name is Kelvin Cracknell, I am currently studing for a Bsc(Hons) degree in software Engineering at Suffolk College in the UK. For my final project i have decided to research and develop a 2D model of the 3x3 Rubik Cube in VBA in the hope that I Shall be able to provide an automatic computerised solution to the problem Although in the course of my research i have found many solution guides to the 3D cube and many 3D simulations, freely available on the internet, I have discoverd through my research that many of them although not all, are incorrectly modelled i was wondering if you would be willing to assist me by providing me with a rough outline of the mathmatical algorithm for solving the cube. as a child i could never get close to solving the cube, it is my hope that develping a two dimentional aproach will not only be able to help me achive a solution but also help develop my algorithmic problem solving ability. any assistance you are willing to give is greatfully recieved. thankyou very much for your time sincerly, Kelvin Cracknell
2376. Re: hello all!
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:37:08 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > i only mean in my school or in the etobicoke area that > i know. and yes, he solves for the least moves posible > with no time limit, i have heard of this being called > "godsolving". Can you tell how many moves he usually needs (and how he counts)? Cheers! Stefan
2377. Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:39:10 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Kelvin Cracknell" <kelvin@...> wrote: > > Although in the > course of my research i have found many solution guides to the 3D > cube and many 3D simulations, freely available on the internet, I > have discoverd through my research that many of them although not > all, are incorrectly modelled Can you tell what's incorrect about them? Cheers! Stefan
2378. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Member - Rubik help
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:39:11 +0100

Hi Kelvin, Welcome. Try this page for more info: http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/puzzles/compcube.htm Try these pages for the best programs around: http://www.kociemba.homepage.t-online.de/cube.htm http://software.rubikscube.info/JACube/index.html Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelvin Cracknell To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:28 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] New Member - Rubik help My name is Kelvin Cracknell, I am currently studing for a Bsc(Hons) degree in software Engineering at Suffolk College in the UK. For my final project i have decided to research and develop a 2D model of the 3x3 Rubik Cube in VBA in the hope that I Shall be able to provide an automatic computerised solution to the problem Although in the course of my research i have found many solution guides to the 3D cube and many 3D simulations, freely available on the internet, I have discoverd through my research that many of them although not all, are incorrectly modelled i was wondering if you would be willing to assist me by providing me with a rough outline of the mathmatical algorithm for solving the cube. as a child i could never get close to solving the cube, it is my hope that develping a two dimentional aproach will not only be able to help me achive a solution but also help develop my algorithmic problem solving ability. any assistance you are willing to give is greatfully recieved. thankyou very much for your time sincerly, Kelvin Cracknell SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2379. re: hello all!
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:23:54 -0500 (EST)

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > i only mean in my school or in the etobicoke area that > i know. and yes, he solves for the least moves posible > with no time limit, i have heard of this being called > "godsolving". Can you tell how many moves he usually needs (and how he counts)? Cheers! Stefan i have no idea but, i will ask him tomorrow and reply in the evening. -kyle simmons __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
2380. 4x4 eastsheen hardware problem..HELP!!
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 21:56:29 -0800 (PST)

i JUST bought the 4x4 eastsheen minicube. when I opened it up to lube it, I hadn't planned on taking out any pieces... but, when I did so, it ended up knocking a few pieces out. I had to take an hour or so to re-assemble the cube. When I was done, i was extremely happy.. it turned great. Today the cube was dropped from approximately 3 ft up onto carpet (NOT by me), and afterwards, it stopped working. U turns work, D works, L, R, F, B, etc all work. However, I could not turn horizontally at the middle. IE, I could not do any u or u' moves. I took off all the center caps. i tried to figure out what was wrong. I noticed that when all the center caps are off, you can see through between adjacent sides. However, between the L and F faces, it seemed there was a piece jiggling around in there, and I could not see through as I could on every other edge. I tried to fix it. I couldn't.., all that I was able to do was end up knocking out tons of pieces, and evnetually I decided to start ALL over. I disassembled the cube completely. I reassembled it. It took THREE HOURS. When I was done, after a little bit of tightening and adjustment, the cube worked great.I was then playing with it a little bit (using it to simulate a 2x2 cube, so I was doing only r, l, u, d, moves, etc), when all of a sudden, I noticed that the same problem was happening again!!!!!!!!!! im about to try and fix it, but arrrrgghh!! what do I do?? David --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2381. Re: [Speed cubing group] 4x4 eastsheen hardware problem..HELP!!
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:27:47 -0800 (PST)

Well it's 2:25AM and I have school at 8.00, but I did manage to get the cube working again. However, I realized once i put it together that I switched 2 edges. So, I switched 2 center pieces b.c i figured that might make it solveable. Is this right? (btw, where is a GOOD applet/program for solving this cube, beacuse i am TIRED of reading "left down" "inner right up"...) More importantly: What do people think about eastsheen 4x4s? Are they as horrible as my experience with them has been thus far? What can I do to make the best of my 4x4 experience? Thanks!!! david David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: i JUST bought the 4x4 eastsheen minicube. when I opened it up to lube it, I hadn't planned on taking out any pieces... but, when I did so, it ended up knocking a few pieces out. I had to take an hour or so to re-assemble the cube. When I was done, i was extremely happy.. it turned great. Today the cube was dropped from approximately 3 ft up onto carpet (NOT by me), and afterwards, it stopped working. U turns work, D works, L, R, F, B, etc all work. However, I could not turn horizontally at the middle. IE, I could not do any u or u' moves. I took off all the center caps. i tried to figure out what was wrong. I noticed that when all the center caps are off, you can see through between adjacent sides. However, between the L and F faces, it seemed there was a piece jiggling around in there, and I could not see through as I could on every other edge. I tried to fix it. I couldn't.., all that I was able to do was end up knocking out tons of pieces, and evnetually I decided to start ALL over. I disassembled the cube completely. I reassembled it. It took THREE HOURS. When I was done, after a little bit of tightening and adjustment, the cube worked great.I was then playing with it a little bit (using it to simulate a 2x2 cube, so I was doing only r, l, u, d, moves, etc), when all of a sudden, I noticed that the same problem was happening again!!!!!!!!!! im about to try and fix it, but arrrrgghh!! what do I do?? David --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2382. virtual version of the rubik snake
From: "elmausselly" <elmausselly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:26:31 -0000

hi guys..i just found this site www.fluteys.com they have a version of the rubik's cube , and also a really nice rubik's snake, which lets you play witha virtual snake with unlimited number of pieces...please try it guys.. u can also save and load the snake..ithe ability to have any number of pieces made me be able to make really big designs shady el mously
2383. Re: 4x4 eastsheen hardware problem..HELP!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 11:31:16 -0000

Look at this thread: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/27 014 Maybe it helps when you use Macky's page to assable your cube again... Did you try to assamble it by sqeezing the last few pieces in? Because that's awkward to do, and it will result in a not-working- 4x4. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > i JUST bought the 4x4 eastsheen minicube. when I opened it up to lube it, I hadn't planned on taking out any pieces... but, when I did so, it ended up knocking a few pieces out. I had to take an hour or so to re-assemble the cube. When I was done, i was extremely happy.. it turned great. > > Today the cube was dropped from approximately 3 ft up onto carpet (NOT by me), and afterwards, it stopped working. U turns work, D works, L, R, F, B, etc all work. However, I could not turn horizontally at the middle. IE, I could not do any u or u' moves. > > I took off all the center caps. i tried to figure out what was wrong. I noticed that when all the center caps are off, you can see through between adjacent sides. However, between the L and F faces, it seemed there was a piece jiggling around in there, and I could not see through as I could on every other edge. > > I tried to fix it. I couldn't.., all that I was able to do was end up knocking out tons of pieces, and evnetually I decided to start ALL over. I disassembled the cube completely. > > I reassembled it. It took THREE HOURS. When I was done, after a little bit of tightening and adjustment, the cube worked great.I was then playing with it a little bit (using it to simulate a 2x2 cube, so I was doing only r, l, u, d, moves, etc), when all of a sudden, I noticed that the same problem was happening again!!!!!!!!!! > > im about to try and fix it, but arrrrgghh!! what do I do?? > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2384. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:03:33 -0000

Here's the full solve (with algs inserted), ready for watching at http://thearufam.brinkster.net/cube/wrapplet.asp [scramble] D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 D' [orient corners] y' R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' y x U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 R' z' U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 R' z x' [permute corners] D2 R2 (F R' F L2 F' R F L2 F2) R2 D2 D' (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') D B2 (R B' R F2 R' B R F2 R2) (U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U' R2) B2 [orient edges] F' (R2 D' R2 M2 (M'U)*4 R2 M2 D R2) F F2 z' (M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U M U2) z F2 [permute edges] U B' F' (R2 U' S' U2 S U' R2) F B U' F2 B2 (R2 U S' U2 S U R2) B2 F2 D B2 (R2 U' S' U2 S U' R2) B2 D' D F2 (M2 U' F2 M2 F2 M2 U M2) F2 D' Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > I couldn't solve with this...I had 4 edges unoriented... > and what "(turn quarter turn clockwise)" means? > > Pedro > > > kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > (look at L face) R U2 R2 F2 R' U2 F2 R U' R2 U' R2 U' F2 D R2 D' > (look at F face, then D face) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 > R' > (turn quarter turn clockwise) U2 R' U' R U' R' U2 R U2 R U R' U R U2 > R' (back to F face) > > D2 R2 (corner cycle UBL UFL UFR) R2 D2 > D' (R2 U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U') D > B2 (corner cycle UFL UFR UBR) > (U F2 U' F2 U' R2 U F2 U F2 U' R2) B2 > > F' (R2 D' R2 M2 4(M'U) R2 M2 D R2) F > F2 (turn quarter turn clockwise) (M' U M' U M' U2 M U M U M U2) F2 > (back to F face) > > U B' F' (edge cycle forwards) F B U' > F2 B2 (edge cycle backwards) B2 F2 > D B2 (edge cycle forwards) B2 D' > D F2 (PLL alg, dual adjacent-edge swap) F2 D' > > > 1:22 > > Memorization was very easy on this one but there were a lot of > steps; the corner orientations were such that all U/D colors were on > the L face, and there were two pairs of corresponding 2-1-corner > twist orientations across the U and D faces on the R face. The > corners took me the longest but in general there wasn't anything > gross. The edges were very agreeable and didn't have any real > issues at all -- no pausing needed, especially the last step which > usually requires a bit of finaggling to get it to work (since the > edge permutation cycles were in two large cycles, usually I simplify > until the end and then figure out how to arrange them, but in this > case it was a quick setup to a PLL alg). > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > D2 F2 U' F' D2 B' U' L F' D2 L F' L2 B2 F D' F' U2 D2 B D2 L B2 U2 > D' > > > > I scramble white on top, green in front, and solve the same way. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > > > Tyson...the crowd is asking for the scramble! Please...(at least > one > > > person...hahahaha) > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > > > 1 minute 13.37 seconds > > > > > > http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/73.37BLD.AVI > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2385. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:11:10 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Here's the full solve (with algs inserted), ready for watching at > http://thearufam.brinkster.net/cube/wrapplet.asp > > F2 B2 (R2 U S' U2 S U R2) B2 F2 Marcus, any particular reason you didn't do this as (D' S D2 S' D')? Did you purposely restrict yourself to only PLL algs? If I remember correctly, in a recent post in the blindsolving forum you made extensive use of that nice 4/5 move 3-cycle using the S-slice. Cheers! Stefan
2386. Re: virtual version of the rubik snake
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:36:52 -0000

Reminds me of one of the KDE screensavers, it's just a 3D rubiks snake floating about changing shape and colour. Ah, *nix ;) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "elmausselly" <elmausselly@...> wrote: > > hi guys..i just found this site > > www.fluteys.com > > they have a version of the rubik's cube , and also a really nice > rubik's snake, which lets you play witha virtual snake with unlimited > number of pieces...please try it guys.. > > u can also save and load the snake..ithe ability to have any number of > pieces made me be able to make really big designs > > > > shady el mously >
2387. Re: 4x4 eastsheen hardware problem..HELP!!
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:09:56 -0000

Hi :-) You can also check my page : http://vakt.idi.ntnu.no/apartment/EastSheen_4x4x4.htm Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Look at this thread: > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/27 > 014 > > Maybe it helps when you use Macky's page to assable your cube > again... > > Did you try to assamble it by sqeezing the last few pieces in? > Because that's awkward to do, and it will result in a not-working- > 4x4. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > i JUST bought the 4x4 eastsheen minicube. when I opened it up to > lube it, I hadn't planned on taking out any pieces... but, when I > did so, it ended up knocking a few pieces out. I had to take an hour > or so to re-assemble the cube. When I was done, i was extremely > happy.. it turned great. > > > > Today the cube was dropped from approximately 3 ft up onto > carpet (NOT by me), and afterwards, it stopped working. U turns > work, D works, L, R, F, B, etc all work. However, I could not turn > horizontally at the middle. IE, I could not do any u or u' moves. > > > > I took off all the center caps. i tried to figure out what was > wrong. I noticed that when all the center caps are off, you can see > through between adjacent sides. However, between the L and F faces, > it seemed there was a piece jiggling around in there, and I could > not see through as I could on every other edge. > > > > I tried to fix it. I couldn't.., all that I was able to do was > end up knocking out tons of pieces, and evnetually I decided to > start ALL over. I disassembled the cube completely. > > > > I reassembled it. It took THREE HOURS. When I was done, after a > little bit of tightening and adjustment, the cube worked great.I was > then playing with it a little bit (using it to simulate a 2x2 cube, > so I was doing only r, l, u, d, moves, etc), when all of a sudden, I > noticed that the same problem was happening again!!!!!!!!!! > > > > im about to try and fix it, but arrrrgghh!! what do I do?? > > > > David > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2388. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 4x4 eastsheen hardware problem..HELP!!
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:14:32 -0800 (PST)

Per -- have you had other 4x4's before? I assume you have since you are not a newbie like me -.-.. even if you only have an eastsheen, surely you've used the rubik's one. How do you like the Eastsheen cube? I have used hte Rubik.com 5x5 cubes and it (admittedly) doesn't get as smooth as the Eastsheen one, but it seemed to never really lock up. I am aware that the 4x4 and 5x5 are different, but I assume the rubik's.com 4x4 is similar to the 5x5. Bottom line: Eastsheen has made a very bad first impression on me, and I just want some reassurance that I have a quality cube which isn't going to break quickly or slow me down -.- Thanks! david Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: Hi :-) You can also check my page : http://vakt.idi.ntnu.no/apartment/EastSheen_4x4x4.htm Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Look at this thread: > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/27 > 014 > > Maybe it helps when you use Macky's page to assable your cube > again... > > Did you try to assamble it by sqeezing the last few pieces in? > Because that's awkward to do, and it will result in a not-working- > 4x4. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > i JUST bought the 4x4 eastsheen minicube. when I opened it up to > lube it, I hadn't planned on taking out any pieces... but, when I > did so, it ended up knocking a few pieces out. I had to take an hour > or so to re-assemble the cube. When I was done, i was extremely > happy.. it turned great. > > > > Today the cube was dropped from approximately 3 ft up onto > carpet (NOT by me), and afterwards, it stopped working. U turns > work, D works, L, R, F, B, etc all work. However, I could not turn > horizontally at the middle. IE, I could not do any u or u' moves. > > > > I took off all the center caps. i tried to figure out what was > wrong. I noticed that when all the center caps are off, you can see > through between adjacent sides. However, between the L and F faces, > it seemed there was a piece jiggling around in there, and I could > not see through as I could on every other edge. > > > > I tried to fix it. I couldn't.., all that I was able to do was > end up knocking out tons of pieces, and evnetually I decided to > start ALL over. I disassembled the cube completely. > > > > I reassembled it. It took THREE HOURS. When I was done, after a > little bit of tightening and adjustment, the cube worked great.I was > then playing with it a little bit (using it to simulate a 2x2 cube, > so I was doing only r, l, u, d, moves, etc), when all of a sudden, I > noticed that the same problem was happening again!!!!!!!!!! > > > > im about to try and fix it, but arrrrgghh!! what do I do?? > > > > David > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2389. Eastern Spring Tournament
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:53:25 -0000

I will be hosting an Eastern Spring competition on April 22nd (as some of you may know). Full details are available by the following link: http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/EasternSpring2006.txt If you are interested in coming please send me an email. Registration forms will be available shortly. -Richard
2390. Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:11:38 -0000

Anyone else here attending this event? http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 Chris
2391. the godsolving kid (was hello all!)
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:29:06 -0500 (EST)

Can you tell how many moves he usually needs (and how he counts)? Cheers! Stefan ok i talked to him today, his best so far is 68 moves. he counts in his head, or on paper. -kyle simons __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
2392. Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:32:15 -0000

I am I am! Are you going Chris? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Anyone else here attending this event? > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 > > Chris >
2393. Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:37:24 -0000

Yes! All events except blindfolded. Haven't tackled that one yet. Look forward to seeing you there. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I am I am! > > Are you going Chris? > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Anyone else here attending this event? > > > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 > > > > Chris > > >
2394. [Speed cubing group] Re: 4x4 eastsheen hardware problem..HELP!!
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:11:16 -0000

Maybe I can help. What I found happens is that, on the eastsheen 4x4, the inner edge simulators get dislodged. First, let me clarify. Eastsheen 4x4s are the same exact things as 5x5's, except the M, E, and S slices are internal and invisible. Basically, you have to pinpoint the "problem edges" by seeing which slices can split (ie the M slice, E slice, S slice), and which edge pairs change a slice from "bad" to "good". For each edge pair identified as a "problem", take out the two visible edges along with the inner edge simulator (IES) that's between them. Then put the IES back in (easier than a 3x3 edge), slide it to one side and put the edge in that belongs on the other side. Then, slide the IES dead center, and push the other edge in. If you get used to it (like I did from the many, many times mine popped inside), its not bad. I made a little video of it at http://tinyurl.com/msaaa Now for the other questions Personally...4x4, I vastly prefer the rubik.com one. It doesn't have that stupid internal popping that I described above (although it does pop fairly often). Also, it gets caught on itself less often. 5x5...well, my rubiks 5x5 is semicrappy...well, I can't break it in or I won't be able to write for a week, it's so stiff right now...but my eastsheen one aint too bad. Rubiks 4x4 is very different from 5x5. 5x5 is basically a two- layered spherical core, the pieces that come from the 3x3 go all the way to the center while the others just kinda fit in around them on the top layer. 4x4 is a ball on the inside with the centers in little ridges in the ball, with the other pieces fitting in around them. It might sound similar, but its not really. Hope everything made sense, it's 11 PM and I've been at play rehearsal since 3 so I might be talking jibberish and not notice. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Per -- have you had other 4x4's before? I assume you have since you are not a newbie like me -.-.. even if you only have an eastsheen, surely you've used the rubik's one. > > How do you like the Eastsheen cube? I have used hte Rubik.com 5x5 cubes and it (admittedly) doesn't get as smooth as the Eastsheen one, but it seemed to never really lock up. I am aware that the 4x4 and 5x5 are different, but I assume the rubik's.com 4x4 is similar to the 5x5. > > Bottom line: Eastsheen has made a very bad first impression on me, and I just want some reassurance that I have a quality cube which isn't going to break quickly or slow me down -.- > > Thanks! > > david > > Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > Hi :-) > > You can also check my page : > > http://vakt.idi.ntnu.no/apartment/EastSheen_4x4x4.htm > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Look at this thread: > > > > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/27 > > 014 > > > > Maybe it helps when you use Macky's page to assable your cube > > again... > > > > Did you try to assamble it by sqeezing the last few pieces in? > > Because that's awkward to do, and it will result in a not- working- > > 4x4. > > > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > > > i JUST bought the 4x4 eastsheen minicube. when I opened it up to > > lube it, I hadn't planned on taking out any pieces... but, when I > > did so, it ended up knocking a few pieces out. I had to take an > hour > > or so to re-assemble the cube. When I was done, i was extremely > > happy.. it turned great. > > > > > > Today the cube was dropped from approximately 3 ft up onto > > carpet (NOT by me), and afterwards, it stopped working. U turns > > work, D works, L, R, F, B, etc all work. However, I could not turn > > horizontally at the middle. IE, I could not do any u or u' moves. > > > > > > I took off all the center caps. i tried to figure out what was > > wrong. I noticed that when all the center caps are off, you can > see > > through between adjacent sides. However, between the L and F > faces, > > it seemed there was a piece jiggling around in there, and I could > > not see through as I could on every other edge. > > > > > > I tried to fix it. I couldn't.., all that I was able to do was > > end up knocking out tons of pieces, and evnetually I decided to > > start ALL over. I disassembled the cube completely. > > > > > > I reassembled it. It took THREE HOURS. When I was done, after > a > > little bit of tightening and adjustment, the cube worked great.I > was > > then playing with it a little bit (using it to simulate a 2x2 > cube, > > so I was doing only r, l, u, d, moves, etc), when all of a sudden, > I > > noticed that the same problem was happening again!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > im about to try and fix it, but arrrrgghh!! what do I do?? > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2395. Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:13:32 -0000

Grr...it's opening weekend for my school's musical so I'm stuck up at home...have fun, wish I could be there... Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Anyone else here attending this event? > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 > > Chris >
2396. 5x5 lubing and loosening tips??
From: "tehguardians" <tehguardians@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:41:35 -0000

already put some rubiks lube in there but wanted to know if theres anything else i can do to get its full potential in terms of being slick and loose. any suggestions?? ryan
2397. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:07:52 -0800

I'm reminded of how chess masters can be shown a complex chess position for a fraction of a second, and remember it exactly. Not because they have fantastic memorization techniques, but because they UNDERSTAND chess so well. Or how most of us can spot complex emotions on a face immediately. That one's mostly instinctual, but it shows the visual/cognitive processing power we have and can tap into. I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with a lot of talent and years of dedicated practice, do the same thing with a 3x3x3. It doesn't hold more information than a face or a chess position. People have only begun to scratch the surface of what's possible to do in blindfold cubing. /Lars (tm) On Feb 26, 2006, at 22:45, Tyson Mao wrote: > So I guess I'm very interested in what type of memory techniques are > used to memorize the cube in under 25 seconds. Even if I could look > around the three-dimensional cube that fast, how can one process > information in the mind so quickly? If you could process information > in a one-pass memorization format at 1 second per piece of > information, > memorization of the cube could take place in about 30 seconds every > time. That, my friend, would be absolutely beautiful.
2398. Re: 5x5 lubing and loosening tips??
From: "mattjs522" <matt100@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 06:08:33 -0000

shouldn't you learn to solve a 5x5 before you ask about lubing it? 1.09
2399. Re: Cube Sighting
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 06:19:16 -0000

Finnish curling player Markku Uusipaavalniemi (nice name!) has been cubing on tv and his best time is 25 seconds. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > There was a cube on a table during the olympics. It was scrambled (not > surprising) during a curling game. It was in front of the announcers. > > Peter Greenwood >
2400. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 22:57:24 -0800

Leyan and I will be attending as well. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 28, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Tim Reynolds wrote: > Grr...it's opening weekend for my school's musical so I'm stuck up at > home...have fun, wish I could be there... > > Tim > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> Anyone else here attending this event? >> >> http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 >> >> Chris >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2401. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:12:30 -0800

Hi Lars, Sure... people have only begun to scratch the surface of what's possible to do in blindfold cubing, which is why I do not believe people can memorize in 10 seconds at this point. Maybe later, but right now, I haven't heard of anyone dedicated enough to the sport. Someone who could come close to memorizing in 10 seconds, 15, or even 20 seconds, would have to have practiced the cube very much... just like the chess masters you're talking about. They would be able to give us novel insight to the sport. I have yet to see anyone produce this kind of knowledge regarding blindfold cubing... except for maybe Stefan. Stefan's just holding back because he doesn't want to make me feel bad. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Feb 28, 2006, at 10:07 PM, Lars Petrus wrote: > I'm reminded of how chess masters can be shown a complex chess > position for a fraction of a second, and remember it exactly. Not > because they have fantastic memorization techniques, but because they > UNDERSTAND chess so well. Or how most of us can spot complex emotions > on a face immediately. That one's mostly instinctual, but it shows > the visual/cognitive processing power we have and can tap into. > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with a lot of talent and > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing with a 3x3x3. It > doesn't hold more information than a face or a chess position. > > People have only begun to scratch the surface of what's possible to > do in blindfold cubing. > > /Lars (tm) > > On Feb 26, 2006, at 22:45, Tyson Mao wrote: > >> So I guess I'm very interested in what type of memory techniques are >> used to memorize the cube in under 25 seconds. Even if I could look >> around the three-dimensional cube that fast, how can one process >> information in the mind so quickly? If you could process information >> in a one-pass memorization format at 1 second per piece of >> information, >> memorization of the cube could take place in about 30 seconds every >> time. That, my friend, would be absolutely beautiful. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2402. llama llama duck
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 00:59:35 -0800

It has been brought to my attention that some people actually thought "llama llama duck" is my memorization method. Just to clarify, that was a joke. To understand this joke, check out the link: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php Yeah... sorry for the confusion. Don't use the llama method. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2403. worst possible 4-flip case
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 01:43:57 -0800

Can someone come up with the worst possible case for having to flip four edges? I'm just wondering if there's anything that requires more than two setups moves, or more than three, etc... Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2404. edge-orientation generator
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 01:49:15 -0800

Is there an easy way to get edge-orientation scrambles? I remember Stefan generated a bunch of edge-permutation cases for us... can do you the same with edge orientation? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2405. Re: [Speed cubing group] edge-orientation generator
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:25:20 +0100

You had better go to bed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] edge-orientation generator > Is there an easy way to get edge-orientation scrambles? I remember > Stefan generated a bunch of edge-permutation cases for us... can do you > the same with edge orientation? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2406. Re: [Speed cubing group] edge-orientation generator
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 02:40:17 -0800

Yeah, I get that a lot... especially from Dave Jones when I respond to his e-mails at 4 AM Pacific Standard Time. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 1, 2006, at 2:25 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > You had better go to bed! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:49 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] edge-orientation generator > > >> Is there an easy way to get edge-orientation scrambles? I remember >> Stefan generated a bunch of edge-permutation cases for us... can do >> you >> the same with edge orientation? >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2407. Re: [Speed cubing group] virtual version of the rubik snake
From: www dot com <wwwdotcomhere@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 05:07:37 -0800 (PST)

Overall, they are nice programs. However, it feels like it is too dark. I even tried to make the pieces white but it come out too pale. You can rotate the whole cube, but you can't hold onto individual layers like at http://www.math.uu.nl/people/beukers/rubik/rubik.html --- elmausselly <elmausselly@...> wrote: > hi guys..i just found this site > > www.fluteys.com > > they have a version of the rubik's cube , and also a > really nice > rubik's snake, which lets you play witha virtual > snake with unlimited > number of pieces...please try it guys.. > > u can also save and load the snake..ithe ability to > have any number of > pieces made me be able to make really big designs > > > > shady el mously > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2408. Re: [Speed cubing group] worst possible 4-flip case
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:36:54 -0300 (ART)

hmm...maybe...orient UL, UB, DL, DB...unless you have a special alg for that, I'd do D2 F2 R2 (4-flip) R2 F2 D2 Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...ch.edu> escreveu: Can someone come up with the worst possible case for having to flip four edges? I'm just wondering if there's anything that requires more than two setups moves, or more than three, etc... Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2409. Re: [Speed cubing group] virtual version of the rubik snake
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:51:26 +0100

----- Original Message ----- From: "www dot com" <wwwdotcomhere@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] virtual version of the rubik snake > Overall, they are nice programs. However, it feels > like it is too dark. I even tried to make the pieces > white but it come out too pale. > > You can rotate the whole cube, but you can't hold onto > individual layers like at > http://www.math.uu.nl/people/beukers/rubik/rubik.html > Is it difficult to implement slice moves? > --- elmausselly <elmausselly@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > hi guys..i just found this site > > > > www.fluteys.com > > > > they have a version of the rubik's cube , and also a > > really nice > > rubik's snake, which lets you play witha virtual > > snake with unlimited > > number of pieces...please try it guys.. > > > > u can also save and load the snake..ithe ability to > > have any number of > > pieces made me be able to make really big designs > > > > > > > > shady el mously > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2410. Re: [Speed cubing group] worst possible 4-flip case
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:07:20 -0000

(L' F' L) (M' U)4 (L' F L) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > hmm...maybe...orient UL, UB, DL, DB...unless you have a special alg for that, I'd do D2 F2 R2 (4-flip) R2 F2 D2 > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > Can someone come up with the worst possible case for having to flip > four edges? I'm just wondering if there's anything that requires more > than two setups moves, or more than three, etc... > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2411. Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:09:06 -0000

Hi Chris and Chris, That's 2 Chris's down, and this Chris is still unsure if he can make the Chris-venture to Tennechris. If any other Chris's decide to go, we'll have to make jerseys with our last names just to keep track. I'm pretty sure they should change the name to the Chris Spring Tournament. -Chris (Parlette) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Yes! All events except blindfolded. Haven't tackled that one yet. > Look forward to seeing you there. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I am I am! > > > > Are you going Chris? > > > > Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Anyone else here attending this event? > > > > > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 > > > > > > Chris > > > > > >
2412. Re: [Speed cubing group] worst possible 4-flip case
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:28:21 +0000 (GMT)

Hey! That's a good one...and you haven't tackled BLD yet...hehe Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: (L' F' L) (M' U)4 (L' F L) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > hmm...maybe...orient UL, UB, DL, DB...unless you have a special alg for that, I'd do D2 F2 R2 (4-flip) R2 F2 D2 > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > Can someone come up with the worst possible case for having to flip > four edges? I'm just wondering if there's anything that requires more > than two setups moves, or more than three, etc... > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2413. Re: the godsolving kid (was hello all!)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:35:00 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> wrote: > > Can you tell how many moves he usually needs (and how > he counts)? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > ok i talked to him today, > his best so far is 68 moves. > he counts in his head, or on paper. > > -kyle simons Ok, thanks. I guess I should've been more clear what I meant about how he's counting. I meant for example whether he counts R2 as one or two moves. But with 68, it doesn't matter much, sorry to say this but it's very long :-). Cheers! Stefan
2414. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:41:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I have yet to see anyone produce > this kind of knowledge regarding blindfold cubing... except for maybe > Stefan. Stefan's just holding back because he doesn't want to make me > feel bad. Yeah, that's the real reason. My absolute complete laziness is just a fake excuse I made up. Cheers! Stefan
2415. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:45:19 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with a lot of talent and > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing with a 3x3x3. It > doesn't hold more information than a face or a chess position. Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess players can memorize a chess situation very quickly, that's only for *real* chess situations coming from a *real* game that makes sense. If you give them *random* boards they're not any better than other people (oh well, probably better than the dumbo on the street who doesn't even know what chess is). But in blindsolving we're dealing with *random* cubes, so that's not comparable to chess masters memorizing a meaningful chess situation. Cheers! Stefan
2416. Re: worst possible 4-flip case
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:55:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Can someone come up with the worst possible case for having to flip > four edges? I'm just wondering if there's anything that requires more > than two setups moves, or more than three, etc... To answer this, we must know some more: - You mean pure flip (like in BLD) or maybe OLL cases? - What algs do you know? With 2048 algs you never need setup moves. Cheers! Stefan
2417. Re: edge-orientation generator
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:52:51 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Is there an easy way to get edge-orientation scrambles? I remember > Stefan generated a bunch of edge-permutation cases for us... can do you > the same with edge orientation? Yes, you can tell my scrambler to turn each of the four things (you know what I mean) on and off. Here are its example scrambles for edge orientation: http://tinyurl.com/kdbjh Cheers! Stefan
2418. Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:58:07 -0000

Actually the Chattahoochee (March 11) one is in Georgia. The Tennessee one is in April. Hope you can make it, the more Chris's the better :) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris and Chris, > > That's 2 Chris's down, and this Chris is still unsure if he can make > the Chris-venture to Tennechris. If any other Chris's decide to go, > we'll have to make jerseys with our last names just to keep track. > I'm pretty sure they should change the name to the Chris Spring > Tournament. > > -Chris (Parlette) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Yes! All events except blindfolded. Haven't tackled that one yet. > > Look forward to seeing you there. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I am I am! > > > > > > Are you going Chris? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone else here attending this event? > > > > > > > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/2006/#ChattahoocheeSpring2006 > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > >
2419. Re: [Speed cubing group] worst possible 4-flip case
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:04:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > hmm...maybe...orient UL, UB, DL, DB...unless you have a special alg for that, I'd do D2 F2 R2 (4-flip) R2 F2 D2 > > Pedro With two setup moves: (f M) (R2 F2 R2 U2 M' U M U2 R2 F2 R2 U) (M' f') However, "my alg" fits better into your set moves: D2 F2 R2 (R2 F2 R2 U2 M' U M U2 R2 F2 R2 U) R2 F2 D2 = D2 (R2 U2 M' U M U2 R2 F2 R2 U) R2 F2 D2 Cheers! Stefan
2420. Re: [Speed cubing group] worst possible 4-flip case
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:12:17 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > However, "my alg" fits better into your set moves: > D2 F2 R2 (R2 F2 R2 U2 M' U M U2 R2 F2 R2 U) R2 F2 D2 > = D2 (R2 U2 M' U M U2 R2 F2 R2 U) R2 F2 D2 Umh, better write it like this: D2 (R2 U2 M' U M U2 R2 F2 R2 U R2 F2) D2 Hey, nice "new" 4-flipper in there. Too bad it's quite slow :-) Cheers! Stefan
2421. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:41:21 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@> > wrote: > > > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with a lot of talent and > > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing with a 3x3x3. It > > doesn't hold more information than a face or a chess position. > > Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess players can memorize > a chess situation very quickly, that's only for *real* chess > situations coming from a *real* game that makes sense. If you give > them *random* boards they're not any better than other people (oh > well, probably better than the dumbo on the street who doesn't even > know what chess is). But in blindsolving we're dealing with *random* > cubes, so that's not comparable to chess masters memorizing a > meaningful chess situation. > > Cheers! > Stefan > I don't know where I read this first, but now Google quickly found this: http://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/learn/html/e.8.1.html Quote: "[...] human chess masters are far more accurate than non-chess players at remembering chess board positions taken from real games, where the placement of pieces arose in strategic play and represented meaningful tactical positions. However, these masters were no better than non-chess players at memorizing random arrangements of pieces." Cheers! Stefan
2422. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 15:59:38 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > I'm reminded of how chess masters can be shown a complex chess > position for a fraction of a second, and remember it exactly. Do you remember a place where I could read about these results? The research I've found so far allowed 3-5 seconds to look at the board, then they looked how much the players remembered. And not even the grand masters remembered the whole board exactly. So that's quite a different result. Here's two pages I've found describing results of studies of Chase and Simon as well as of de Groot (search for "random" inside the pages): http://www.psy.fsu.edu/faculty/ericsson/ericsson.mem.exp.html http://jeays.net/files/psychchess.htm Cheers! Stefan
2423. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:02:31 +0100

What do you mean by a "random" board? A board with e.g. three kings and five bishops on it? In other case I can´t agree with you. Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the board. Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less than, say 20 seconds? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> > wrote: > > > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with a lot of talent and > > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing with a 3x3x3. It > > doesn't hold more information than a face or a chess position. > > Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess players can memorize > a chess situation very quickly, that's only for *real* chess > situations coming from a *real* game that makes sense. If you give > them *random* boards they're not any better than other people (oh > well, probably better than the dumbo on the street who doesn't even > know what chess is). But in blindsolving we're dealing with *random* > cubes, so that's not comparable to chess masters memorizing a > meaningful chess situation. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2424. Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:05:45 -0000

Hey Chris, lol this made me crackup. I was just picturing a scene where every solver at a timer was a Chris with a jersey on with our last names, and people in the audience shouting "Go Chris!!" :-) And yes definitely, you should come! I agree with Chris Pelley, the more Chris's the better! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris and Chris, > > That's 2 Chris's down, and this Chris is still unsure if he can make > the Chris-venture to Tennechris. If any other Chris's decide to go, > we'll have to make jerseys with our last names just to keep track. > I'm pretty sure they should change the name to the Chris Spring > Tournament. > > -Chris (Parlette)
2425. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: sander hendrickx <sanderhendrickx@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:23:02 -0800 (PST)

1) 3 kings isn't a random chess position... it's an impossible/illegal chess position 2) weird legal things aren't that hard to come up with, but are hard to memorize because they don't make sense. for example let's say I can take your queen with my bisschop, instead I put my knight in front of your rook... it's a legal move, but it doesn't make sense (and thus let's call it random), so it's much harder to memorize... just my 2 cents, euro's, whatever sander --- Rune Wesstr�m <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > What do you mean by a "random" board? A board with > e.g. three kings and five bishops on it? In other > case I can�t agree with you. Take e.g. some curious > problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the > board. Don�t you think a chess master would catch > this position in less than, say 20 seconds? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > Lars Petrus <lars@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with > a lot of talent and > > > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing > with a 3x3x3. It > > > doesn't hold more information than a face or a > chess position. > > > > Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess > players can memorize > > a chess situation very quickly, that's only for > *real* chess > > situations coming from a *real* game that makes > sense. If you give > > them *random* boards they're not any better than > other people (oh > > well, probably better than the dumbo on the street > who doesn't even > > know what chess is). But in blindsolving we're > dealing with *random* > > cubes, so that's not comparable to chess masters > memorizing a > > meaningful chess situation. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2426. megaminx crap
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:27:30 -0000

Hi, I just got my mefferts megaminx, since there are so few on ebay, I bought there one. The problem is, that when I turn left, the center piece acts like a screw drive and the screw is coming out! I could of course try to solve it by only turning right (clockwise), but that is not good of course. Stefan, you're an expert, maybe you can help? I registered for megaminx at GCD, but now I can't even learn it :( If the crew would be glued to the core, I think it could turn good, but maybe I glue the center too... Help!
2427. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:05:49 +0100

And what tells you that a "random board" must reflect a legal chess position? ----- Original Message ----- From: "sander hendrickx" <sanderhendrickx@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > 1) 3 kings isn't a random chess position... it's an > impossible/illegal chess position > 2) weird legal things aren't that hard to come up > with, but are hard to memorize because they don't make > sense. for example let's say I can take your queen > with my bisschop, instead I put my knight in front of > your rook... it's a legal move, but it doesn't make > sense (and thus let's call it random), so it's much > harder to memorize... > > just my 2 cents, euro's, whatever > sander > > --- Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@hem.utfors.se> wrote: > > > What do you mean by a "random" board? A board with > > e.g. three kings and five bishops on it? In other > > case I can´t agree with you. Take e.g. some curious > > problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the > > board. Don´t you think a chess master would catch > > this position in less than, say 20 seconds? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > Lars Petrus <lars@...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with > > a lot of talent and > > > > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing > > with a 3x3x3. It > > > > doesn't hold more information than a face or a > > chess position. > > > > > > Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess > > players can memorize > > > a chess situation very quickly, that's only for > > *real* chess > > > situations coming from a *real* game that makes > > sense. If you give > > > them *random* boards they're not any better than > > other people (oh > > > well, probably better than the dumbo on the street > > who doesn't even > > > know what chess is). But in blindsolving we're > > dealing with *random* > > > cubes, so that's not comparable to chess masters > > memorizing a > > > meaningful chess situation. > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2428. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: sander hendrickx <sanderhendrickx@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:14:04 -0800 (PST)

--- Rune Wesstr�m <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > And what tells you that a "random board" must > reflect a legal chess position? well when you talk about a random cube, you don't include cubes with 20 blue and 13 yellow stickers either... so why include chessboards with 3 kings? it just seemed logical :-) but i'll go read the articles stefan linked now. maybe they specify it in there... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2429. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:17:51 -0000

Hi all, I play blindfold chess and am now working on blindfold cubing. I've made my own connection with it; For EP, I memorize edges as a combination of numbers and letters. I now have it split A-F and 1-6. If I run into a position that has: D4F3 in sequence, I'm able to visualize a chess position. Obviously this doesn't work with every combination of letters/numbers, but my comfort with bld chess helps in certain situations. I know this probably wasn't the direction the thread was going, but it works for me because it has personal appeal. I also used to be a huge basketball fan, so certain combinations of numbers become useful. (i.e. 23=Jordan, 45=Jordan's return, 21=Duncan, etc, etc.) As previously mentioned, I'm new to bld cubing, but the above mentioned strategies has helped with getting my EP under control. Thanks to Tyson for encouraging me to divvy up the solution. A bit more work with EP and CP and I'll get a successful solve in. (hopefully) Happy cubing and stay friendly -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > And what tells you that a "random board" must reflect a legal chess position? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sander hendrickx" <sanderhendrickx@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 5:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > > > > 1) 3 kings isn't a random chess position... it's an > > impossible/illegal chess position > > 2) weird legal things aren't that hard to come up > > with, but are hard to memorize because they don't make > > sense. for example let's say I can take your queen > > with my bisschop, instead I put my knight in front of > > your rook... it's a legal move, but it doesn't make > > sense (and thus let's call it random), so it's much > > harder to memorize... > > > > just my 2 cents, euro's, whatever > > sander > > > > --- Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > > What do you mean by a "random" board? A board with > > > e.g. three kings and five bishops on it? In other > > > case I can´t agree with you. Take e.g. some curious > > > problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the > > > board. Don´t you think a chess master would catch > > > this position in less than, say 20 seconds? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 3:45 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > Lars Petrus <lars@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with > > > a lot of talent and > > > > > years of dedicated practice, do the same thing > > > with a 3x3x3. It > > > > > doesn't hold more information than a face or a > > > chess position. > > > > > > > > Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess > > > players can memorize > > > > a chess situation very quickly, that's only for > > > *real* chess > > > > situations coming from a *real* game that makes > > > sense. If you give > > > > them *random* boards they're not any better than > > > other people (oh > > > > well, probably better than the dumbo on the street > > > who doesn't even > > > > know what chess is). But in blindsolving we're > > > dealing with *random* > > > > cubes, so that's not comparable to chess masters > > > memorizing a > > > > meaningful chess situation. > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2430. Re: [Speed cubing group] megaminx crap
From: "David Barr" <david20708@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:26:50 -0500

I think you can put a couple drops of superglue in the screw hole before you screw it in, and it should be ok.
2431. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:45:27 +0100

How old are you? ----- Original Message ----- From: "sander hendrickx" <sanderhendrickx@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > --- Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > And what tells you that a "random board" must > > reflect a legal chess position? > > well when you talk about a random cube, > you don't include cubes with 20 blue > and 13 yellow stickers either... > so why include chessboards with 3 kings? > it just seemed logical :-) > > but i'll go read the articles stefan linked > now. maybe they specify it in there... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2432. Instant recognition
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:42:14 -0800

On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:45, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> > wrote: >> >> I don't see any reason why people couldn't, with a lot of talent and >> years of dedicated practice, do the same thing with a 3x3x3. It >> doesn't hold more information than a face or a chess position. > > Um... I disagree. What you mentioned, that chess players can memorize > a chess situation very quickly, that's only for *real* chess > situations coming from a *real* game that makes sense. If you give > them *random* boards they're not any better than other people. But in > blindsolving we're dealing with *random* cubes, so that's not > comparable to > chess masters memorizing a meaningful chess situation. You're of course right that it's only for meaningful positions. I'm not sure it invalidates my claim, but maybe it does. I would argue that to a cuber, all cube positions are meaningful. Just the fact that they're random doesn't mean they're hard to memorize/recognize. But maybe it is somehow fundamentally a much bigger harder problem in some way. It would be interesting to know how the number of possible "meaningful" chess positions compares to the number of possible cube positions. Not that that conclusively proves anything, but it's an indicator. On Mar 1, 2006, at 7:59, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Do you remember a place where I could read about these results? The > research I've found so far allowed 3-5 seconds to look at the board, > then they looked how much the players remembered. And not even the > grand masters remembered the whole board exactly. So that's quite a > different result. I got the "fraction of a second" from memory, and as you found that memory was a exaggerated by a factor of 10. Make your own 'irony' joke. Are there any other comparable cases of instant recognition that people do? I haven't had my coffee, so I can't think of any. I'm thinking less of conscious memorizing of symbols and more about things that plugs into our instinctive abilities. That's often thousand of times faster. - - - - - - - - - - - - "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw Lars Petrus - lars@... http://lar5.com
2433. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:05:56 -0800

You guys are making me want to come... :) -Chris On 3/1/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hey Chris, > > lol this made me crackup. I was just picturing a scene where every > solver at a timer was a Chris with a jersey on with our last names, > and people in the audience shouting "Go Chris!!" > > :-) > > And yes definitely, you should come! I agree with Chris Pelley, the > more Chris's the better! > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" > <cparlett@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris and Chris, > > > > That's 2 Chris's down, and this Chris is still unsure if he can make > > the Chris-venture to Tennechris. If any other Chris's decide to go, > > we'll have to make jerseys with our last names just to keep track. > > I'm pretty sure they should change the name to the Chris Spring > > Tournament. > > > > -Chris (Parlette) > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2434. [Speed cubing group] Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 18:20:24 -0000

So somewhere between work and school, I was assuming you guys meant "Tennessee" throughout this whole thing. Now that I'm on the right page, I don't think I can come to the Chattahoochee competition. However, I am doing my best to get to the Tennessee competition. Now that there are 4 Chris's in the conversation (actually, cubesmith makes 5), we might have to make those jerseys a reality! -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > You guys are making me want to come... :) > > -Chris > > On 3/1/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hey Chris, > > > > lol this made me crackup. I was just picturing a scene where every > > solver at a timer was a Chris with a jersey on with our last names, > > and people in the audience shouting "Go Chris!!" > > > > :-) > > > > And yes definitely, you should come! I agree with Chris Pelley, the > > more Chris's the better! > > > > Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" > > <cparlett@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Chris and Chris, > > > > > > That's 2 Chris's down, and this Chris is still unsure if he can make > > > the Chris-venture to Tennechris. If any other Chris's decide to go, > > > we'll have to make jerseys with our last names just to keep track. > > > I'm pretty sure they should change the name to the Chris Spring > > > Tournament. > > > > > > -Chris (Parlette) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2435. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: sander hendrickx <sanderhendrickx@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:43:49 -0800 (PST)

> How old are you? 969, just like methusalem but seriously... a chessboard with 3 kings isn't a random chessboard at all. it's a combination of multiple chessboards. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2436. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 11:56:43 -0800

It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone out there should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand masters are at memorize a chess board. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:43 AM, sander hendrickx wrote: >> How old are you? > > 969, just like methusalem > > but seriously... a chessboard with 3 kings isn't > a random chessboard at all. it's a combination > of multiple chessboards. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2437. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:10:16 -0000

What was meant is a random but valid situation. That is, put all valid situations into a big bag, close your eyes, and take one out of it. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > What do you mean by a "random" board? A board with e.g. three kings and five bishops on it? In other case I can´t agree with you. Take e. g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the board. Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less than, say 20 seconds?
2438. Re: Instant recognition
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:24:41 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > You're of course right that it's only for meaningful positions. I'm > not sure it invalidates my claim, but maybe it does. > > I would argue that to a cuber, all cube positions are meaningful. > Just the fact that they're random doesn't mean they're hard to > memorize/recognize. But maybe it is somehow fundamentally a much > bigger harder problem in some way. I think it is a fundamentally different thing. Of course you can take a scrambled cube and interpret some meaning into it (e.g. the four corner orientations in the L layer look like "the wheel") but so can the chess masters for random chess boards (e.g. those three pieces are lined up as "pin"). A chess game always starts with the same state (unless we're talking about Fischer's random chess) and goes on from that in meaningful ways. A cube on the other hand starts scrambled, i.e. is meaningless right from the start, and only becomes "more meaningful" the closer you get to the solved state. > I got the "fraction of a second" from memory, and as you found that > memory was a exaggerated by a factor of 10. Make your own 'irony' joke. Ok... um... damn... I'm not good at joking when I'm expected to. I also can't tell jokes. > Are there any other comparable cases of instant recognition that > people do? I haven't had my coffee, so I can't think of any. I'm > thinking less of conscious memorizing of symbols and more about > things that plugs into our instinctive abilities. That's often > thousand of times faster. An important aspect is that we're looking for *exact* memorization. You can't make a single mistake or else you'll get DNF. Also, the memorized object should be "random" and have many different possible states. I can't think of any right now, either. Anyone? Cheers! Stefan
2439. Re: megaminx crap
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:25:37 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I just got my mefferts megaminx, since there are so few on ebay, I > bought there one. The problem is, that when I turn left, the center > piece acts like a screw drive and the screw is coming out! I could of > course try to solve it by only turning right (clockwise), but that is > not good of course. Stefan, you're an expert, maybe you can help? I > registered for megaminx at GCD, but now I can't even learn it :( > If the crew would be glued to the core, I think it could turn good, > but maybe I glue the center too... > Help! The correct solution is: weaker/shorter springs. Cheers! Stefan
2440. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Instant recognition
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:30:58 -0500

On 3/1/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > An important aspect is that we're looking for *exact* memorization. > You can't make a single mistake or else you'll get DNF. Also, the > memorized object should be "random" and have many different possible > states. > > I can't think of any right now, either. Anyone? > BLD driving? :-) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2441. Re: bld video
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:39:04 -0000

> It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone out there > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand masters are > at memorize a chess board. > > Tyson Mao Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To be quite honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with me, to train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a master level cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, would make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think I might need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or maybe I just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that better. J. Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system for the 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to handle the double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 that I don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it isn't that disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. All it takes is practice. Just my rambling $0.02 Chris
2442. Re: Instant recognition
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 20:57:39 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@> > wrote: > > > > Are there any other comparable cases of instant recognition that > > people do? I haven't had my coffee, so I can't think of any. I'm > > thinking less of conscious memorizing of symbols and more about > > things that plugs into our instinctive abilities. That's often > > thousand of times faster. > > An important aspect is that we're looking for *exact* memorization. > You can't make a single mistake or else you'll get DNF. Also, the > memorized object should be "random" and have many different possible > states. > > I can't think of any right now, either. Anyone? Here's one thing that just came to my mind, e.g. memorizing 40 bits in 1 second: http://www.recordholders.org/en/records/quick-memory/quick-memory.html Though, it's more technique and practice than the "instinctive" you asked for. Cheers! Stefan
2443. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: megaminx crap
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:02:39 -0800 (PST)

I also recently got a Meffert's megaminx, and like you, I was initially disappointed with it... the thing was impossible to turn. I lubed it with silicone spray, and I've been wearing it in a little bit, and it's getting better. Also, on my cube, only one of the sides (orange) will untwist in the way you described... I assumed it was designed intentioanlly this way, so that people could easily open it. Maybe not. I'd be interested in hearing what happens here, since we have the same product. David Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I just got my mefferts megaminx, since there are so few on ebay, I > bought there one. The problem is, that when I turn left, the center > piece acts like a screw drive and the screw is coming out! I could of > course try to solve it by only turning right (clockwise), but that is > not good of course. Stefan, you're an expert, maybe you can help? I > registered for megaminx at GCD, but now I can't even learn it :( > If the crew would be glued to the core, I think it could turn good, > but maybe I glue the center too... > Help! The correct solution is: weaker/shorter springs. Cheers! Stefan SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2444. Re: bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:09:05 -0000

Chris: Try hexadecimal. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone out there > > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand masters > are > > at memorize a chess board. > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To be quite > honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with me, to > train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. > > I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a master level > cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, would > make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. > > I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think I might > need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or maybe I > just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that better. J. > Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system for the > 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to handle the > double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 that I > don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? > > In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it isn't that > disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. All it > takes is practice. > > Just my rambling $0.02 > > Chris >
2445. Is this 4x4 solveable?
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:09:10 -0800 (PST)

http://www.geocities.com/ladartfrog/4x4.jpg ^ the last layer on my 4x4. Solvable? David --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2446. Re: Is this 4x4 solveable?
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:22:05 -0000

As long as you haven't switched any pieces from another 4x4 into that cube then you should be fine. The only thing required for a 4x4 to be solvable is for the corner orientation to be solvable. Everything else is allowed. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > http://www.geocities.com/ladartfrog/4x4.jpg > > ^ the last layer on my 4x4. Solvable? > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2447. [Speed cubing group] Re: megaminx crap
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:28:23 -0000

With help of Joel van Noort (Thanks Joel!) I glued the screws to the center. Indeed, the loose centers were: Orange, Light green and Light pink. I'll mess it up tomorrow for the first time :) We will see how it is going to behave... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I also recently got a Meffert's megaminx, and like you, I was initially disappointed with it... the thing was impossible to turn. I lubed it with silicone spray, and I've been wearing it in a little bit, and it's getting better. > > Also, on my cube, only one of the sides (orange) will untwist in the way you described... I assumed it was designed intentioanlly this way, so that people could easily open it. Maybe not. > > I'd be interested in hearing what happens here, since we have the same product. > > David > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" > <megafrikkie@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I just got my mefferts megaminx, since there are so few on ebay, I > > bought there one. The problem is, that when I turn left, the center > > piece acts like a screw drive and the screw is coming out! I could > of > > course try to solve it by only turning right (clockwise), but that > is > > not good of course. Stefan, you're an expert, maybe you can help? I > > registered for megaminx at GCD, but now I can't even learn it :( > > If the crew would be glued to the core, I think it could turn good, > > but maybe I glue the center too... > > Help! > > The correct solution is: weaker/shorter springs. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2448. 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way)
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 17:38:16 -0500 (EST)

hi, i know this is the slow way of solving the cube but... does anyone know how to solve the problem in the attachment? (sorry for the bad drawing) i realize that the wireframe or "outside in" method is easier than top down or middles then top down, but its what i have to work with at the moment. the rest of the cube is solved. -kyle simmons __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2449. Re: bld video
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:59:28 -0000

Hey Marcus, yeah that would certainly minimize the number of two digit numbers, but I would still have to worry about 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 if I used hex. I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from 1 followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was a good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. But yeah, maybe doing this in hex would make things easier, since it gives me 6 fewer pieces to know. Actually maybe I could include consonant clusters too. So 0-9 could be the normal stuff, and maybe 10=ch 11=sh 11=st 12=str 13=gl 14=cl 15=sp 16=spl 17=tr 18=fr 19=bl 20=fl 21=shr 22=lm 23=rd 24=th so (1 7 24 19 17 6 20 10 15 9 14 11 3 12 18 21 23 11 8 5 4 22) which is the scramble on my 4x4 right now could be translated to the sounds: (t ck th bl tr g fl sh sp b cl st m str fr shr rd st f l r lm) and that could become the phrases TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH. SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet) FRies SHRei RD STaFF Lo ReaLM. Ok so that is a pretty nonsensical phrase, but I break it down like this. "TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH" is not hard to remember because of the alliteration, though it is meaningless. Just focus on the sounds. "SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet)" I picture as a street hotdog vendor on Speebackle St. and they Fry hotdogs so much better than the staff of the hotdog stand on Shrei RD that they put them to shame (low realm). Again it sounds weird, but I think this would be much faster than memorizing visually. My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence is proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory masters to work well? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Chris: Try hexadecimal. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone out > there > > > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand > masters > > are > > > at memorize a chess board. > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To be > quite > > honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with me, > to > > train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. > > > > I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a master > level > > cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, > would > > make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. > > > > I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think I > might > > need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or maybe > I > > just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that better. > J. > > Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system for > the > > 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to handle > the > > double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 that > I > > don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? > > > > In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it isn't > that > > disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. All it > > takes is practice. > > > > Just my rambling $0.02 > > > > Chris > > >
2450. 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment!
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:30:35 -0500 (EST)

hi, i know this is the slow way of solving the cube but... does anyone know how to solve the problem in the attachment? (sorry for the bad drawing) i realize that the wireframe or "outside in" method is easier than top down or middles then top down, but its what i have to work with at the moment. the rest of the cube is solved. -kyle simmons re posted due to attachment issues __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2451. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment!
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 15:44:39 -0800 (PST)

still no attachment but i bet this will answer the question anyway http://www.bigcubes.com/5x5x5/lastedges.html ----- Original Message ---- From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:30:35 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment! hi, i know this is the slow way of solving the cube but... does anyone know how to solve the problem in the attachment? (sorry for the bad drawing) i realize that the wireframe or "outside in" method is easier than top down or middles then top down, but its what i have to work with at the moment. the rest of the cube is solved. -kyle simmons re posted due to attachment issues __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2452. LL Skip...just thot i'd post
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:21:17 -0000

Scramble: B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' Solve: Cross: U' R2 D2 R' F' Pair 1: R' U R L' U2 L d R' U2 R Pair 2: y' R U2 R' U R U' R' Pair 3: U R' U R d R U R' Pair 4: L U L' U2 L U' L' U2 38 Move solve: my original time was 15.74...I know I'm slow... I solve F2L really weirdly... Craig
2453. Re: bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:23:20 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from 1 > followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was a > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. Try encoding not 0-99 but 00-99, so you don't encode 1 and 8 but 01 and 08. > My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence is > proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct > sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory masters > to work well? You'll find the exact same translation from digits to sounds in books of different high-profile memory masters. I think it's the standard, haven't seen something with more sounds yet. They probably don't need more, for memorizing numbers 10 sounds is all they need and the next higher I think would be playing cards, and I doubt you have 52 enough different sounds :-) Cheers! Stefan
2454. German Cube Day - map
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:26:23 -0000

I made a little map to show some locations: http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/gcd2006map.png You can see the train station, the youth hostel where most of us will be staying, and from last year to help you get a better picture, the Center hotel and the pub where we spent the evening before the cube day (note this year we'll have a seminar room in the youth hostel). Cheers! Stefan
2455. Re: bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 00:29:14 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. Btw, it's phonetic, not pneumonic :-) Cheers! Stefan
2456. Re: bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:31:25 -0000

Here is something I've been tweaking around with but let me know what you think. The following is mainly something I've been thinking about with respect to centers, but it could certainly apply to edges and the like as long as you define edges in consistent groups of four: blue = 1 white = 2 red = 3 yellow = 4 orange = 5 green = 6 Now, say we have the following colors for a group of four elements: blue green white red Which translates to 16 23 Now, I tried making the following table with increasing numbers down one side with the first six most-prevalent consonants in the English language for the main row. Consider the top number of the previous set, 16, and the bottom, 23. If the first digit is greater than the second of a given number, subtract them. If it is smaller, add. Doing so for all possible combinations will yield the following table (arbitrarily defining a case where if the two numbers are equal, they become 12): t n s h r d 12 (66) (55) (44) (33) (22) (11) 1 (65) (54) (43) (32) (21) 2 (64) (53) (42) (31) 3 (63) (52) (41) (12) 4 (62) (51) (13) 5 (61) (14) (23) 6 (15) (24) 7 (16) (25) (34) 8 (26) (35) 9 (36) (45) 10 (46) 11 (56) To remember the consonants, think "tin shard" without the vowels. Notice the general pattern of how the numbers are arranged. This can be reconstructed from memory if need be. (The general rule: Given your number, after determining whether or not to add or subtract, the sum/difference will equal the number on the left. If you subtracted, the left digit will denote its relative position in the table from the right side, and if you added, it will be the right digit instead denoting that same relative position.) Using the above table on the numbers (16) and (23) from the colors above, we have t7 h5 Changing the righthand numbers to letters: tghe Forming a wordphrase: tag hoe For this I would imagine someone playing tag with... a stripper, or maybe a gardener. Your choice. The idea here is that you can make whatever words (length, number of words, etc) you want as long as you can extract the letters in an every-other-letter fashion beginning with the letter of that given word. For example, "bullseye" would be blsy but "big tip" would be bgtp due to it being two words. Now, say you're in the middle of a solve and your memory hook for a side was "Road Hole" or something (imagining a pothole or something for the hook itself). Taking every-other letter within a given word we have: ra hl or r1 h12 or (21) (33) or white blue red red The idea here is to simplify 24 objects into 6 visual phrases that can be easily broken back down. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey Marcus, > > yeah that would certainly minimize the number of two digit numbers, > but I would still have to worry about 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 if > I used hex. > > I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from 1 > followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was a > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. > > But yeah, maybe doing this in hex would make things easier, since it > gives me 6 fewer pieces to know. > > Actually maybe I could include consonant clusters too. > > So 0-9 could be the normal stuff, and maybe 10=ch 11=sh 11=st 12=str > 13=gl 14=cl 15=sp 16=spl 17=tr 18=fr 19=bl 20=fl 21=shr 22=lm 23=rd > 24=th > > so (1 7 24 19 17 6 20 10 15 9 14 11 3 12 18 21 23 11 8 5 4 22) which > is the scramble on my 4x4 right now could be translated to the > sounds: > > (t ck th bl tr g fl sh sp b cl st m str fr shr rd st f l r lm) > > and that could become the phrases > > TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH. SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet) FRies > SHRei RD STaFF Lo ReaLM. > > Ok so that is a pretty nonsensical phrase, but I break it down like > this. "TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH" is not hard to remember > because of the alliteration, though it is meaningless. Just focus > on the sounds. "SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet)" I picture as a > street hotdog vendor on Speebackle St. and they Fry hotdogs so much > better than the staff of the hotdog stand on Shrei RD that they put > them to shame (low realm). > > Again it sounds weird, but I think this would be much faster than > memorizing visually. > > My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence is > proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct > sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory masters > to work well? > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Chris: Try hexadecimal. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone out > > there > > > > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand > > masters > > > are > > > > at memorize a chess board. > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > > > Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To be > > quite > > > honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with me, > > to > > > train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. > > > > > > I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a master > > level > > > cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, > > would > > > make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. > > > > > > I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think I > > might > > > need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or > maybe > > I > > > just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that > better. > > J. > > > Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system > for > > the > > > 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to > handle > > the > > > double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 > that > > I > > > don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? > > > > > > In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it isn't > > that > > > disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. All > it > > > takes is practice. > > > > > > Just my rambling $0.02 > > > > > > Chris > > > > > >
2457. Official World Record Prizes
From: "jello33" <chris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:32:25 -0000

Official World Record Prizes I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA and www.speedcubing.com If you happen to set one of these records in an official arena then I'll award you one free custom logo set (Option A)! There is a last man standing rule, meaning that if you set a record you must retain it for at least 24 hrs before I'll award a prize. This allows for the same record to be broken at the same tournament or at another tournament the same day. This wouldn't be necessary but I've seen it happen before (Tyson/Leyan). Good Luck! Chris
2458. Re: Official World Record Prizes
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 02:55:07 -0000

Hi Chris :-) Why not make it a 2-day rule? Some competitions are over 2 days. Most often Saturday and Sunday ;-) Have fun! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jello33" <chris@...> wrote: > > Official World Record Prizes > > I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone > that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA > and www.speedcubing.com > > If you happen to set one of these records in an official arena then > I'll award you one free custom logo set (Option A)! > > There is a last man standing rule, meaning that if you set a record > you must retain it for at least 24 hrs before I'll award a prize. > This allows for the same record to be broken at the same tournament or > at another tournament the same day. This wouldn't be necessary but > I've seen it happen before (Tyson/Leyan). > > Good Luck! > Chris >
2459. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment!
From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 21:56:16 -0500 (EST)

thanks, this did awnser my question, for some reason konqueror did not allow the file throught or i forgot to hit something. anyway thanks. -kyle simmons Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: still no attachment but i bet this will answer the question anyway http://www.bigcubes.com/5x5x5/lastedges.html ----- Original Message ---- From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@...> To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:30:35 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment! hi, i know this is the slow way of solving the cube but... does anyone know how to solve the problem in the attachment? (sorry for the bad drawing) i realize that the wireframe or "outside in" method is easier than top down or middles then top down, but its what i have to work with at the moment. the rest of the cube is solved. -kyle simmons re posted due to attachment issues __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Share your photos with the people who matter at Yahoo! Canada Photos [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2460. Re: [Speed cubing group] Official World Record Prizes
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 18:59:10 -0800

Stupid Leyan. :-P Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 1, 2006, at 6:32 PM, jello33 wrote: > Official World Record Prizes > > I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone > that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA > and www.speedcubing.com > > If you happen to set one of these records in an official arena then > I'll award you one free custom logo set (Option A)! > > There is a last man standing rule, meaning that if you set a record > you must retain it for at least 24 hrs before I'll award a prize. > This allows for the same record to be broken at the same tournament or > at another tournament the same day. This wouldn't be necessary but > I've seen it happen before (Tyson/Leyan). > > Good Luck! > Chris > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2461. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment!
From: Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:16:04 -0500

Dear Kyle Simmons, I believe that in this Yahoo! group, file attachments have been disabled. If you want to share a file, you can post it here -http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/files/ - or you can upload it onto the web somewhere and send us a link. Sincerely, Anthony Hsu ----- Original Message ----- From: "kyle simmons" <beamfreak314@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with attachment! > thanks, this did awnser my question, for some reason konqueror did not > allow the file throught or i forgot to hit something. > anyway thanks. > -kyle simmons
2462. cubesmith tiles -- which ones?
From: "stuart.a.hall" <stuart.a.hall@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 22:20:32 -0500

Hi all, Decided to bite the bullet and buy some cubesmith tiles... but which are the ones to get that you are all raving about? I see standard rubiks 3x3 tiles, but I also see lexan tiles which are a bit more money. I assume more money == better tiles, but thought I would ask. Thanks!
2463. Re: [Speed cubing group] cubesmith tiles -- which ones?
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 19:46:13 -0800 (PST)

The ones which are like 50 cents for a set of 18 are not tiles.. those are stickers, which is probably not what you want., The tiles are the lexan ones. I like mine a lot.. I haven't tried the textured ones. David "stuart.a.hall" <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: Hi all, Decided to bite the bullet and buy some cubesmith tiles... but which are the ones to get that you are all raving about? I see standard rubiks 3x3 tiles, but I also see lexan tiles which are a bit more money. I assume more money == better tiles, but thought I would ask. Thanks! SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2464. 5x5 lubing help
From: "tehguardians" <tehguardians@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:32:23 -0000

already put some rubiks lube in there but wanted to know if theres anything else i can do to get its full potential in terms of being slick and loose. any suggestions?? ryan
2465. Re: cubesmith tiles -- which ones?
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:48:29 -0000

the lexan ones are tiles. the vinyl stickers work perfectly fine too. they last as long as you don't chip them off with your nails etc. I personally grew to dislike the textured tiles. go for the smooth ones. the textured ones tend to get slippery... yes, paradoxical.. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "stuart.a.hall" <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > Decided to bite the bullet and buy some cubesmith tiles... but which > are the ones to get that you are all raving about? I see standard > rubiks 3x3 tiles, but I also see lexan tiles which are a bit more money. > > I assume more money == better tiles, but thought I would ask. Thanks! >
2466. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 05:13:36 +0000 (GMT)

I guess you are all trying to devise a system to memorise the 24 edges using phonetic sound and its value system. There are only 10 phonetic sounds, even for memorising 52 playing cards. Let me give you some ideas for naming all the 24 edges in 4*4*4 using the phonetic sound and its value( using only 8 sounds). 1). First of all, classify the 24 edges into 3 categoris based on their positions, say TOP LAYER EDGES(8 EDGES), MIDDLE LAYER EDGES(8 EDGES) and BOTTOM LAYER EDGES(8 EDGES). 2). Number them(each laer) from 1 to 8 seperately in any order you like. 3). Coining/creating word(noun) for each piece. a). Top layer edges name should start with T, Middle layer edges name should start with M and Bottom layer edges name should strat with B. b). All layer edges name should end with the phonetic sound of the number of the edge. c). Introduce the no value letters( a,e i, o, u, w, h, y or any silent letter) in between the first letter (T, M or B) and the phonetic sound lettersto create a noun word which can be easily vizualised as a picture. d). That is the word for particular piece. Example :- TyRe is top layer 4th edge MoweR is middle layer 4th edge BeaR is bottom layer 4th edge If you want to memorise 2 pieces in one word, then we should apply some advanced system using the same 10 phonetic sound and its value. Hope it makes sense and may be helpful to you all. If not plz ignore it. John Louis Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from 1 > followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was a > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. Try encoding not 0-99 but 00-99, so you don't encode 1 and 8 but 01 and 08. > My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence is > proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct > sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory masters > to work well? You'll find the exact same translation from digits to sounds in books of different high-profile memory masters. I think it's the standard, haven't seen something with more sounds yet. They probably don't need more, for memorizing numbers 10 sounds is all they need and the next higher I think would be playing cards, and I doubt you have 52 enough different sounds :-) Cheers! Stefan SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2467. Re: Official World Record Prizes
From: "jello33" <chris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:19:43 -0000

I think Per is right and I'll have it cover a 2 day period so a weekend tournament is covered. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jello33" <chris@...> wrote: > > Official World Record Prizes > > I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone > that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA > and www.speedcubing.com > > If you happen to set one of these records in an official arena then > I'll award you one free custom logo set (Option A)! > > There is a last man standing rule, meaning that if you set a record > you must retain it for at least 24 hrs before I'll award a prize. > This allows for the same record to be broken at the same tournament or > at another tournament the same day. This wouldn't be necessary but > I've seen it happen before (Tyson/Leyan). > > Good Luck! > Chris >
2468. 4x4x4 blindfold
From: "washyourmonkey" <washyourmonkey@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 06:21:44 -0000

im interested in doing the 4x4x4 blindfolded. i understand the concept because i have been doing the 3x3x3 for a while, but i dont really know the algs for the center cycling and the edge cycling and i was wanding if there was a good plac that might have them.
2469. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cubesmith tiles -- which ones?
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:58:46 +0100

"the textured ones tend to get slippery" I had the same problem too, that's why I now use vinyl stickers ;-) Gilles. 2006/3/2, smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>: > the lexan ones are tiles. the vinyl stickers work perfectly fine too. > they last as long as you don't chip them off with your nails etc. > > I personally grew to dislike the textured tiles. go for the smooth > ones. the textured ones tend to get slippery... yes, paradoxical.. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "stuart.a.hall" > <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > Decided to bite the bullet and buy some cubesmith tiles... but which > > are the ones to get that you are all raving about? I see standard > > rubiks 3x3 tiles, but I also see lexan tiles which are a bit more money. > > > > I assume more money == better tiles, but thought I would ask. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2470. Re: LL Skip...just thot i'd post
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:54:01 -0000

Only the first pair looks weird to me... I would do that one in 7 moves... But I don't think it will get me a LL skip when I do it. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Scramble: > > B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' > > Solve: > > Cross: U' R2 D2 R' F' Pair 1: R' U R L' U2 L d R' U2 R Pair 2: y' R U2 > R' U R U' R' Pair 3: U R' U R d R U R' Pair 4: L U L' U2 L U' L' U2 > > 38 Move solve: my original time was 15.74...I know I'm slow... > > I solve F2L really weirdly... > > Craig >
2471. Re: 4x4x4 blindfold
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:04:47 -0000

Hey, As far as I know there are two main, popular, methods for solving the edges and centers. One is Stefan's method (what doesn't Stefan do right?) and the other is called freestyle cycling. Also look out for a new one potentially coming soon, but I'll keep it at least somewhat quiet until the inventor comes posts about it. Stefan's approach works exactly like his BLD method does for permuting pieces on the 3x3, you solve pieces one at a time using a buffer piece and a location that you always setup an edge/center to. I know the basics of this method, but I'm not that good at it. However this method rocks, it's very fast paced and you will be able to solve the pieces quickly. Freestyle cycling is what I do, basically you get to know and love commutators and that's all you use. Just setup two edges (or centers) onto the same slice and one edge/center off that slice. Then use a commutator to move them. This approach requires a lot more thought than Stefan's method for each piece you solve, but it requires many fewer moves. Stefan and I have raced eachother with both approaches a number of times and they are pretty much tied. Both of our times were and are very similar, so it really just depends on which approach you like better. Stefan's method is all about faster recall and easier mental visualization, where freestyle cycling as about pure efficiency, but you expend a lot of thought power per piece trying to figure out how to cycle it. If you want more specifics then you can check out the BLD group. Also feel free to e-mail me or Stefan, I'm sure both of us could give you tips for either method, though my knowledge of his method is fairly basic. Which method are you interested in first? Then you can decide how to go from there. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "washyourmonkey" <washyourmonkey@...> wrote: > > im interested in doing the 4x4x4 blindfolded. i understand the concept > because i have been doing the 3x3x3 for a while, but i dont really > know the algs for the center cycling and the edge cycling and i was > wanding if there was a good plac that might have them. >
2472. Colors for speed
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:10:33 -0000

I'm 1 second faster when using my own colors (fluo orange/dark red, fluo green/dark blue). The question is rarely discussed. It's surprising, because speedcubing is based on anticipation, and color perception in fundamental. We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. Gilles.
2473. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:32:04 +0100

No idea? Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the board. Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less than, say 20 seconds? Yahoo! Groups Links
2474. Re: Instant recognition
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:43:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > Here's one thing that just came to my mind, e.g. memorizing 40 bits in > 1 second: > http://www.recordholders.org/en/records/quick-memory/quick-memory.html Interesting -- analogous to memorizing orientations "at a glance"? You said at some point that a random position is not "meaningful" information (or something similar) and that "meaning" increases as the cube is solved. But you can easily imagine someone breaking up the pattern of orientations into blocks that they could solve independently of the rest, so that the "random" pattern of orientations would become "meaningful" in the context of their solution method. The permutation is harder, though the cycles could be thought of as the meaningful content for anyone who solves along cycles. You might imagine someone being able to memorize a cycle as soon as they had perceived it (maybe some can do this already?), but the rate limiting step would be "seeing the cycle" in the first place. Sorry if someone has already said the same thing in this thread... Mike
2475. Re: Colors for speed
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:14:43 -0000

I agree with Gilles, the colors on a regular speedcube are not perfect. If someone could research which colors are the best, recognition would be a bit easier. Maybe it is also important that the bottom and top layer are the most distinctive, for F2L + LL --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > I'm 1 second faster when using my own colors (fluo orange/dark red, > fluo green/dark blue). > > The question is rarely discussed. It's surprising, because speedcubing > is based on anticipation, and color perception in fundamental. > > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. > > Gilles. >
2476. Re: [Speed cubing group] Colors for speed
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 04:16:17 -0600

On 3/2/06, Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > I'm 1 second faster when using my own colors (fluo orange/dark red, > fluo green/dark blue). > > The question is rarely discussed. It's surprising, because speedcubing > is based on anticipation, and color perception in fundamental. > > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. > > Gilles. It would depend on the method. For most CFOP solvers, I would imagine they would want the most distinct possible colors for each face separately, with a possible exception for a pair of opposite faces (to make opposite color solving easier). For Roux solving, it would probably work best to try for the maximum amount of color distinction while still retaining some similarity between opposite faces, because opposite colors are so important for the method. It's all down to method preference, really. -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2477. Re: Colors for speed
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:38:05 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. Yes, we do need an expert to help. But, disregarding that, we could make a start by selecting colours that are entirely unlike all other colours. For example, you would rule out purple, because we perceive it as both "bluish" and "reddish". Those fundamental colours that are unlike all others are usually called the psychological primaries (PPs). For centuries, artists have agreed that the PPs are red, yellow, blue, and green. Lay those 4 out on a circle with R opp G and Y opp B and you can fit all other colours into the gaps -- as you probably did in art classes at school. [There is supposed to be a good physiological basis for the 4 PPs, too: it is /not/ based in the retina -- where there are only 3 kinds of colour receptor -- but in the way that colour information is transmitted from eye to brain. My limited understanding of this is that there is a red/green channel (which transmits EITHER R OR G information, but not both) and a blue/yellow channel (similarly).] So that gives 4 colours that it should be hard to confuse in good light. Perhaps the non-colours black/white could be used for the other 2 faces, but (personally) I have found that black makes me feel vaguely uncomfortable -- it looks too "empty" on a cube. Mike
2478. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Instant recognition
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:43:12 +0100

I wonder; could it be a good strategy in memorizing binary digits to translate them into hexadecimal digits? Then you have unlimited time to retranslate them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Instant recognition
2479. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Colors for speed
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 12:29:40 +0100

And black isn´t too unlike blue (especially in a bad illuminated environment). ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > So that gives 4 colours that it should be hard to confuse in good > light. Perhaps the non-colours black/white could be used for the other > 2 faces, but (personally) I have found that black makes me feel vaguely > uncomfortable -- it looks too "empty" on a cube. > > Mike
2480. Re: Colors for speed
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:58:16 -0000

The black stickers work great on a white cube, though (in place of white stickers). Speaking of which, anyone try the 2006 white cubes (with arched centers) yet? Mine are due to arrive today. I'll have a full report later tonight. For corners-first, I preferred the Japanese color scheme (blue opposite white) and I also liked flourescent orange. Opposite color recognition did come into play more with that method. For the last four edges it was easier to see orientation with those colors. I'm not sure if this was just my preference or a real physiological factor. With CFOP I use the standard color scheme and regular orange. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > 2 faces, but (personally) I have found that black makes me feel vaguely > uncomfortable -- it looks too "empty" on a cube.
2481. Re: LL Skip...just thot i'd post
From: "caseyp_09" <caseyp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:07:58 -0000

Interesting. I tried that scramble and I solved opposite cross (actually, x-cross). It ended up with a really nice F2L and a PLL skip (11.15 seconds). Casey --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Scramble: > > B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' > > Solve: > > Cross: U' R2 D2 R' F' Pair 1: R' U R L' U2 L d R' U2 R Pair 2: y' R U2 > R' U R U' R' Pair 3: U R' U R d R U R' Pair 4: L U L' U2 L U' L' U2 > > 38 Move solve: my original time was 15.74...I know I'm slow... > > I solve F2L really weirdly... > > Craig >
2482. Re: [Speed cubing group] Instant recognition
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 00:13:45 +1100

On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:42:14AM -0800, Lars Petrus wrote: > Are there any other comparable cases of instant recognition that > people do? I haven't had my coffee, so I can't think of any. I'm > thinking less of conscious memorizing of symbols and more about > things that plugs into our instinctive abilities. That's often > thousand of times faster. This is the massively parallel nature of the brain. An example is human hearing. In music, we can easily distinguish the different layers that are being played. The problem is that we start with a single complex sound wave, and we have to separate it into different frequencies corresponding to different pitches. Regular PCs still can't do this as fast as humans can. How do computers do it? By fourier analysis, a computer can break down a complex wave into pure sine wave components, each representing a different frequency that is present in the original signal. How do humans do it? A human ear has about 20,000 little sensory cells, each tuned to respond to a different frequency. Each of those sensory cells has immediate recognition of its own frequency :-) Ryan
2483. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: LL Skip...just thot i'd post
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 07:19:44 -0600

damn, i bet with xcross it would be good. no skips for me. On 3/2/06, caseyp_09 <caseyp@...> wrote: > Interesting. I tried that scramble and I solved opposite cross > (actually, x-cross). It ended up with a really nice F2L and a PLL skip > (11.15 seconds). > > Casey > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@...> wrote: > > > > Scramble: > > > > B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' > > > > Solve: > > > > Cross: U' R2 D2 R' F' Pair 1: R' U R L' U2 L d R' U2 R Pair 2: y' R U2 > > R' U R U' R' Pair 3: U R' U R d R U R' Pair 4: L U L' U2 L U' L' U2 > > > > 38 Move solve: my original time was 15.74...I know I'm slow... > > > > I solve F2L really weirdly... > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2484. Re: LL Skip...just thot i'd post
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 13:32:16 -0000

Hey Casey, I did the Xcross Opposite too and got the PLL Skip...I can do the scramble and both solves BLD now...so I get to wow ppl...hehe Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "caseyp_09" <caseyp@...> wrote: > > Interesting. I tried that scramble and I solved opposite cross > (actually, x-cross). It ended up with a really nice F2L and a PLL skip > (11.15 seconds). > > Casey > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Scramble: > > > > B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' > > > > Solve: > > > > Cross: U' R2 D2 R' F' Pair 1: R' U R L' U2 L d R' U2 R Pair 2: y' R U2 > > R' U R U' R' Pair 3: U R' U R d R U R' Pair 4: L U L' U2 L U' L' U2 > > > > 38 Move solve: my original time was 15.74...I know I'm slow... > > > > I solve F2L really weirdly... > > > > Craig > > >
2485. M-15
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 14:43:00 -0000

Markku Uusipaavalniemi was again cubing on tv. Time was something like 1 minute 18 seconds and still he got applause. Finns know nothing...
2486. Re: M-15
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:13:33 -0000

Contact the tv company and tell them you can do it in sub-15 all the time. Maybe they want you to come and show off. :-) /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > Markku Uusipaavalniemi was again cubing on tv. Time was something like > 1 minute 18 seconds and still he got applause. Finns know nothing... >
2487. Re: bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 15:15:19 -0000

I might also add here that you can figure out the cycles needed by examining the interplay of the letters of the first word in each visual set. It would then just be a matter of how quickly you can translate two letters into two colors using the table. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here is something I've been tweaking around with but let me know > what you think. The following is mainly something I've been > thinking about with respect to centers, but it could certainly apply > to edges and the like as long as you define edges in consistent > groups of four: > > blue = 1 white = 2 red = 3 yellow = 4 orange = 5 green = 6 > > Now, say we have the following colors for a group of four elements: > > blue green > white red > > Which translates to > > 16 > 23 > > Now, I tried making the following table with increasing numbers down > one side with the first six most-prevalent consonants in the English > language for the main row. Consider the top number of the previous > set, 16, and the bottom, 23. If the first digit is greater than the > second of a given number, subtract them. If it is smaller, add. > Doing so for all possible combinations will yield the following > table (arbitrarily defining a case where if the two numbers are > equal, they become 12): > > t n s h r d > 12 (66) (55) (44) (33) (22) (11) > 1 (65) (54) (43) (32) (21) > 2 (64) (53) (42) (31) > 3 (63) (52) (41) (12) > 4 (62) (51) (13) > 5 (61) (14) (23) > 6 (15) (24) > 7 (16) (25) (34) > 8 (26) (35) > 9 (36) (45) > 10 (46) > 11 (56) > > To remember the consonants, think "tin shard" without the vowels. > > Notice the general pattern of how the numbers are arranged. This > can be reconstructed from memory if need be. > > (The general rule: Given your number, after determining whether or > not to add or subtract, the sum/difference will equal the number on > the left. If you subtracted, the left digit will denote its > relative position in the table from the right side, and if you > added, it will be the right digit instead denoting that same > relative position.) > > Using the above table on the numbers (16) and (23) from the colors > above, we have > > t7 > h5 > > Changing the righthand numbers to letters: > > tghe > Forming a wordphrase: > tag hoe > > For this I would imagine someone playing tag with... a stripper, or > maybe a gardener. Your choice. The idea here is that you can make > whatever words (length, number of words, etc) you want as long as > you can extract the letters in an every-other-letter fashion > beginning with the letter of that given word. For > example, "bullseye" would be blsy but "big tip" would be bgtp due to > it being two words. > > Now, say you're in the middle of a solve and your memory hook for a > side was "Road Hole" or something (imagining a pothole or something > for the hook itself). Taking every-other letter within a given word > we have: > > ra > hl > > or > > r1 > h12 > > or > > (21) > (33) > > or > > white blue > red red > > The idea here is to simplify 24 objects into 6 visual phrases that > can be easily broken back down. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hey Marcus, > > > > yeah that would certainly minimize the number of two digit > numbers, > > but I would still have to worry about 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 > if > > I used hex. > > > > I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from > 1 > > followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was > a > > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. > > > > But yeah, maybe doing this in hex would make things easier, since > it > > gives me 6 fewer pieces to know. > > > > Actually maybe I could include consonant clusters too. > > > > So 0-9 could be the normal stuff, and maybe 10=ch 11=sh 11=st > 12=str > > 13=gl 14=cl 15=sp 16=spl 17=tr 18=fr 19=bl 20=fl 21=shr 22=lm > 23=rd > > 24=th > > > > so (1 7 24 19 17 6 20 10 15 9 14 11 3 12 18 21 23 11 8 5 4 22) > which > > is the scramble on my 4x4 right now could be translated to the > > sounds: > > > > (t ck th bl tr g fl sh sp b cl st m str fr shr rd st f l r lm) > > > > and that could become the phrases > > > > TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH. SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet) FRies > > SHRei RD STaFF Lo ReaLM. > > > > Ok so that is a pretty nonsensical phrase, but I break it down > like > > this. "TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH" is not hard to remember > > because of the alliteration, though it is meaningless. Just focus > > on the sounds. "SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet)" I picture as a > > street hotdog vendor on Speebackle St. and they Fry hotdogs so > much > > better than the staff of the hotdog stand on Shrei RD that they > put > > them to shame (low realm). > > > > Again it sounds weird, but I think this would be much faster than > > memorizing visually. > > > > My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence > is > > proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct > > sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory > masters > > to work well? > > > > Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Chris: Try hexadecimal. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone > out > > > there > > > > > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand > > > masters > > > > are > > > > > at memorize a chess board. > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To > be > > > quite > > > > honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with > me, > > > to > > > > train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. > > > > > > > > I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a > master > > > level > > > > cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, > > > would > > > > make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. > > > > > > > > I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think > I > > > might > > > > need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or > > maybe > > > I > > > > just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that > > better. > > > J. > > > > Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system > > for > > > the > > > > 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to > > handle > > > the > > > > double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 > > that > > > I > > > > don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? > > > > > > > > In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it > isn't > > > that > > > > disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. > All > > it > > > > takes is practice. > > > > > > > > Just my rambling $0.02 > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > >
2488. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Official World Record Prizes
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 13:53:17 -0300 (ART)

What if I broke a record 2 times on the same tournament? do I get two prizes? haha just kidding...I'm probably not going to break any records... Pedro jello33 <chris@...> escreveu: I think Per is right and I'll have it cover a 2 day period so a weekend tournament is covered. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jello33" <chris@...> wrote: > > Official World Record Prizes > > I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone > that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA > and www.speedcubing.com > > If you happen to set one of these records in an official arena then > I'll award you one free custom logo set (Option A)! > > There is a last man standing rule, meaning that if you set a record > you must retain it for at least 24 hrs before I'll award a prize. > This allows for the same record to be broken at the same tournament or > at another tournament the same day. This wouldn't be necessary but > I've seen it happen before (Tyson/Leyan). > > Good Luck! > Chris > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2489. Re: LL Skip...just thot i'd post
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:06:53 -0000

I got a 50-move solve (short for me) but no PLL skip: scramble: B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' xcross: B' U2 R B' r' F U' F' x' ce2: d L' U' L U2 R U R' ce3: y2 L2 U2 L U L' U L2 ce4: U' R' U R U y R U' R' oll: B' R' F R B R' F' R pll: d2 B2 R' U' R B2 r' B r' U' L2 Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "caseyp_09" <caseyp@...> wrote: > > Interesting. I tried that scramble and I solved opposite cross > (actually, x-cross). It ended up with a really nice F2L and a PLL skip > (11.15 seconds). > > Casey > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Scramble: > > > > B F2 L' F L2 B' D2 B2 D2 R U' R' F R' L' B2 D' F2 U2 R L2 F2 B2 R2 U' > > > > Solve: > > > > Cross: U' R2 D2 R' F' Pair 1: R' U R L' U2 L d R' U2 R Pair 2: y' R U2 > > R' U R U' R' Pair 3: U R' U R d R U R' Pair 4: L U L' U2 L U' L' U2 > > > > 38 Move solve: my original time was 15.74...I know I'm slow... > > > > I solve F2L really weirdly... > > > > Craig > > >
2490. Re: [Speed cubing group] Colors for speed
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:14:14 -0800

I suspect different shapes can also help. You could even have opposite sides have the same color but different shapes. Maybe that's cheating or a different sport though. In theory I would have thought that silver/metallic would be good, since it's very distinctive, but when I try the 25y cube, I'm completely thrown by it. /Lars On Mar 2, 2006, at 1:10, Gilles Roux wrote: > I'm 1 second faster when using my own colors (fluo orange/dark red, > fluo green/dark blue). > > The question is rarely discussed. It's surprising, because speedcubing > is based on anticipation, and color perception in fundamental. > > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. > > Gilles.
2491. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:53:43 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > No idea? > > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the board. > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less than, > say 20 seconds? Hmm, what message are you referring to? "Up Thread" leads here: http://games.groups.yahoo. com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/26956 What do you mean with "catch"? Cheers! Stefan
2492. Re: M-15
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:53:40 -0000

Yea, I can do a sub 40 solve now. So I wish ... of course I choke under pressure still. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Contact the tv company and tell them you can do it in sub-15 all the > time. Maybe they want you to come and show off. :-) > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" > <mahtianssi@> wrote: > > > > Markku Uusipaavalniemi was again cubing on tv. Time was something like > > 1 minute 18 seconds and still he got applause. Finns know nothing... > > >
2493. Re: Instant recognition
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 17:58:55 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@.. .> wrote: > > You said at some point that a random position is not "meaningful" > information (or something similar) and that "meaning" increases as the > cube is solved. > But you can easily imagine someone breaking up the pattern of > orientations into blocks that they could solve independently of the > rest, so that the "random" pattern of orientations would > become "meaningful" in the context of their solution method. Yes, of course you can interpret some meaning into a random cube. But like I said before, so can the chess masters with a random board. Still, for random boards they're no better than weak players. Their memorization "at a glance" only works for really meaningful boards, i. e. where they see patterns they know and understand. Cheers! Stefan
2494. Re: Official World Record Prizes
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:08:40 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jello33" <chris@...> wrote: > > I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone > that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA > and www.speedcubing.com Gosh, why didn't you say that earlier? :-) Cheers! Stefan
2495. Re: bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:14:15 -0000

Hmm, I don't fully understand it, but it sounds a bit unnecessarily complicated to me. You want to take a sequence of four colors and translate it to one word with four key consonants, right? Why not simply assign one consonant to each color (e.g. blue=B, green=G, white=W, red=R, orange=?, yellow=?) and then translate directly? Gets rid of the computation and the indirection through numbers... Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here is something I've been tweaking around with but let me know > what you think. The following is mainly something I've been > thinking about with respect to centers, but it could certainly apply > to edges and the like as long as you define edges in consistent > groups of four: > > blue = 1 white = 2 red = 3 yellow = 4 orange = 5 green = 6 > > Now, say we have the following colors for a group of four elements: > > blue green > white red > > Which translates to > > 16 > 23 > > Now, I tried making the following table with increasing numbers down > one side with the first six most-prevalent consonants in the English > language for the main row. Consider the top number of the previous > set, 16, and the bottom, 23. If the first digit is greater than the > second of a given number, subtract them. If it is smaller, add. > Doing so for all possible combinations will yield the following > table (arbitrarily defining a case where if the two numbers are > equal, they become 12): > > t n s h r d > 12 (66) (55) (44) (33) (22) (11) > 1 (65) (54) (43) (32) (21) > 2 (64) (53) (42) (31) > 3 (63) (52) (41) (12) > 4 (62) (51) (13) > 5 (61) (14) (23) > 6 (15) (24) > 7 (16) (25) (34) > 8 (26) (35) > 9 (36) (45) > 10 (46) > 11 (56) > > To remember the consonants, think "tin shard" without the vowels. > > Notice the general pattern of how the numbers are arranged. This > can be reconstructed from memory if need be. > > (The general rule: Given your number, after determining whether or > not to add or subtract, the sum/difference will equal the number on > the left. If you subtracted, the left digit will denote its > relative position in the table from the right side, and if you > added, it will be the right digit instead denoting that same > relative position.) > > Using the above table on the numbers (16) and (23) from the colors > above, we have > > t7 > h5 > > Changing the righthand numbers to letters: > > tghe > Forming a wordphrase: > tag hoe > > For this I would imagine someone playing tag with... a stripper, or > maybe a gardener. Your choice. The idea here is that you can make > whatever words (length, number of words, etc) you want as long as > you can extract the letters in an every-other-letter fashion > beginning with the letter of that given word. For > example, "bullseye" would be blsy but "big tip" would be bgtp due to > it being two words. > > Now, say you're in the middle of a solve and your memory hook for a > side was "Road Hole" or something (imagining a pothole or something > for the hook itself). Taking every-other letter within a given word > we have: > > ra > hl > > or > > r1 > h12 > > or > > (21) > (33) > > or > > white blue > red red > > The idea here is to simplify 24 objects into 6 visual phrases that > can be easily broken back down. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hey Marcus, > > > > yeah that would certainly minimize the number of two digit > numbers, > > but I would still have to worry about 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 > if > > I used hex. > > > > I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from > 1 > > followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was > a > > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. > > > > But yeah, maybe doing this in hex would make things easier, since > it > > gives me 6 fewer pieces to know. > > > > Actually maybe I could include consonant clusters too. > > > > So 0-9 could be the normal stuff, and maybe 10=ch 11=sh 11=st > 12=str > > 13=gl 14=cl 15=sp 16=spl 17=tr 18=fr 19=bl 20=fl 21=shr 22=lm > 23=rd > > 24=th > > > > so (1 7 24 19 17 6 20 10 15 9 14 11 3 12 18 21 23 11 8 5 4 22) > which > > is the scramble on my 4x4 right now could be translated to the > > sounds: > > > > (t ck th bl tr g fl sh sp b cl st m str fr shr rd st f l r lm) > > > > and that could become the phrases > > > > TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH. SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet) FRies > > SHRei RD STaFF Lo ReaLM. > > > > Ok so that is a pretty nonsensical phrase, but I break it down > like > > this. "TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH" is not hard to remember > > because of the alliteration, though it is meaningless. Just focus > > on the sounds. "SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet)" I picture as a > > street hotdog vendor on Speebackle St. and they Fry hotdogs so > much > > better than the staff of the hotdog stand on Shrei RD that they > put > > them to shame (low realm). > > > > Again it sounds weird, but I think this would be much faster than > > memorizing visually. > > > > My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence > is > > proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct > > sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory > masters > > to work well? > > > > Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Chris: Try hexadecimal. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone > out > > > there > > > > > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand > > > masters > > > > are > > > > > at memorize a chess board. > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To > be > > > quite > > > > honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with > me, > > > to > > > > train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. > > > > > > > > I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a > master > > > level > > > > cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, > > > would > > > > make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. > > > > > > > > I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think > I > > > might > > > > need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or > > maybe > > > I > > > > just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that > > better. > > > J. > > > > Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system > > for > > > the > > > > 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to > > handle > > > the > > > > double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 > > that > > > I > > > > don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? > > > > > > > > In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it > isn't > > > that > > > > disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. > All > > it > > > > takes is practice. > > > > > > > > Just my rambling $0.02 > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > >
2496. Help w/ the Cross + Pair 1
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:23:56 -0000

I build a cross and my first pair. This takes about ten seconds. It's awful Can anybody give me tips on how to help w/ this step in my cubing. Here's an avg of 12 on my cross w/ P1 9.32, 7.77, 9.91, 8.98, 7.92, 6.13, 8.69, (4.50), 8.68, 6.22, (10.60), 8.52 => 8.21 granted this was actually very good for me and if I had not of stopped on that 6.22 I would of had sub 30 but what do you guys look for that allow you to do the whole f2l in sub 15?!
2497. Re: [Speed cubing group] M-15
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:41:14 -0800

Contact Markku and offer to show him the ways of the cube. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 2, 2006, at 6:43 AM, Anssi Vanhala wrote: > Markku Uusipaavalniemi was again cubing on tv. Time was something like > 1 minute 18 seconds and still he got applause. Finns know nothing... > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2498. Re: bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:41:02 -0000

That can work, but the problem is the limited number of letters used. I was trying to find a way to introduce more letters of the alphabet. Like I recall reading about a memory hook somewhere where people might say "Zazu zizo" but of course it could be very easily confused with "Zazi zuzo" for instance. Although the table seems "complex" at first, if you memorized it it would make conversions very fast. Read this: http://www.slate.com/id/2114925/?GT1=6208 http://c1blog.blogspot.com/2005/03/memory-olympiads.html A lot of extensive memory methods have seemingly complex bases, and by this I mean a memory set with multiple associations (one person in the above article has something associated with all numbers 0- 99). The more you use the same memory hooks, the easier it is. An extensive base allows for more unique and easily distuingishable associations. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Hmm, I don't fully understand it, but it sounds a bit unnecessarily > complicated to me. > > You want to take a sequence of four colors and translate it to one > word with four key consonants, right? Why not simply assign one > consonant to each color (e.g. blue=B, green=G, white=W, red=R, > orange=?, yellow=?) and then translate directly? Gets rid of the > computation and the indirection through numbers... > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > Here is something I've been tweaking around with but let me know > > what you think. The following is mainly something I've been > > thinking about with respect to centers, but it could certainly apply > > to edges and the like as long as you define edges in consistent > > groups of four: > > > > blue = 1 white = 2 red = 3 yellow = 4 orange = 5 green = 6 > > > > Now, say we have the following colors for a group of four elements: > > > > blue green > > white red > > > > Which translates to > > > > 16 > > 23 > > > > Now, I tried making the following table with increasing numbers down > > one side with the first six most-prevalent consonants in the English > > language for the main row. Consider the top number of the previous > > set, 16, and the bottom, 23. If the first digit is greater than the > > second of a given number, subtract them. If it is smaller, add. > > Doing so for all possible combinations will yield the following > > table (arbitrarily defining a case where if the two numbers are > > equal, they become 12): > > > > t n s h r d > > 12 (66) (55) (44) (33) (22) (11) > > 1 (65) (54) (43) (32) (21) > > 2 (64) (53) (42) (31) > > 3 (63) (52) (41) (12) > > 4 (62) (51) (13) > > 5 (61) (14) (23) > > 6 (15) (24) > > 7 (16) (25) (34) > > 8 (26) (35) > > 9 (36) (45) > > 10 (46) > > 11 (56) > > > > To remember the consonants, think "tin shard" without the vowels. > > > > Notice the general pattern of how the numbers are arranged. This > > can be reconstructed from memory if need be. > > > > (The general rule: Given your number, after determining whether or > > not to add or subtract, the sum/difference will equal the number on > > the left. If you subtracted, the left digit will denote its > > relative position in the table from the right side, and if you > > added, it will be the right digit instead denoting that same > > relative position.) > > > > Using the above table on the numbers (16) and (23) from the colors > > above, we have > > > > t7 > > h5 > > > > Changing the righthand numbers to letters: > > > > tghe > > Forming a wordphrase: > > tag hoe > > > > For this I would imagine someone playing tag with... a stripper, or > > maybe a gardener. Your choice. The idea here is that you can make > > whatever words (length, number of words, etc) you want as long as > > you can extract the letters in an every-other-letter fashion > > beginning with the letter of that given word. For > > example, "bullseye" would be blsy but "big tip" would be bgtp due to > > it being two words. > > > > Now, say you're in the middle of a solve and your memory hook for a > > side was "Road Hole" or something (imagining a pothole or something > > for the hook itself). Taking every-other letter within a given word > > we have: > > > > ra > > hl > > > > or > > > > r1 > > h12 > > > > or > > > > (21) > > (33) > > > > or > > > > white blue > > red red > > > > The idea here is to simplify 24 objects into 6 visual phrases that > > can be easily broken back down. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Marcus, > > > > > > yeah that would certainly minimize the number of two digit > > numbers, > > > but I would still have to worry about 10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18 > > if > > > I used hex. > > > > > > I mean maybe this isn't a problem trying to keep 18 seperate from > > 1 > > > followed by 8, but I'm new to this and wanted to ask if there was > > a > > > good technique in terms of using those pneumonic word systems. > > > > > > But yeah, maybe doing this in hex would make things easier, since > > it > > > gives me 6 fewer pieces to know. > > > > > > Actually maybe I could include consonant clusters too. > > > > > > So 0-9 could be the normal stuff, and maybe 10=ch 11=sh 11=st > > 12=str > > > 13=gl 14=cl 15=sp 16=spl 17=tr 18=fr 19=bl 20=fl 21=shr 22=lm > > 23=rd > > > 24=th > > > > > > so (1 7 24 19 17 6 20 10 15 9 14 11 3 12 18 21 23 11 8 5 4 22) > > which > > > is the scramble on my 4x4 right now could be translated to the > > > sounds: > > > > > > (t ck th bl tr g fl sh sp b cl st m str fr shr rd st f l r lm) > > > > > > and that could become the phrases > > > > > > TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH. SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet) FRies > > > SHRei RD STaFF Lo ReaLM. > > > > > > Ok so that is a pretty nonsensical phrase, but I break it down > > like > > > this. "TaCK THe BLue TRue Goo FLaSH" is not hard to remember > > > because of the alliteration, though it is meaningless. Just focus > > > on the sounds. "SPee BaCkLe ST (Mouth STReet)" I picture as a > > > street hotdog vendor on Speebackle St. and they Fry hotdogs so > > much > > > better than the staff of the hotdog stand on Shrei RD that they > > put > > > them to shame (low realm). > > > > > > Again it sounds weird, but I think this would be much faster than > > > memorizing visually. > > > > > > My question is that I highly doubt my number/sound correspondence > > is > > > proven to work well. Is there one where I can utilize 24 distinct > > > sound/consonants/consonant clusters that is proven by memory > > masters > > > to work well? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Chris: Try hexadecimal. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It's very easy to put an end to this discussion. Someone > > out > > > > there > > > > > > should just learn to memorize as good as those chess grand > > > > masters > > > > > are > > > > > > at memorize a chess board. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh man would I love to learn to have a memory that good. To > > be > > > > quite > > > > > honest this is actually becoming a hobby level interest with > > me, > > > > to > > > > > train myself to be able to memorize well and quickly. > > > > > > > > > > I think, honestly, that training a memory master to be a > > master > > > > level > > > > > cuber, or training a master level cuber to be a memory master, > > > > would > > > > > make for some very impressive times in the blindfold arena. > > > > > > > > > > I like using stories so far for big cube centers, but I think > > I > > > > might > > > > > need a beter method for my edges to memorize superfast. Or > > > maybe > > > > I > > > > > just need to work on my visualizing and learn to use that > > > better. > > > > J. > > > > > Bernett, I've thought about using the pneumonic number system > > > for > > > > the > > > > > 4x4 edges and 5x5 wing edges, but is there are easy way to > > > handle > > > > the > > > > > double digit numbers? How would I make sure in memorizing 19 > > > that > > > > I > > > > > don't accidently confuse it as 1 then 9 instead? > > > > > > > > > > In short, memory is awesome, and I can see how training it > > isn't > > > > that > > > > > disimilar to training yourself to speedsolve a 3x3x3 cube. > > All > > > it > > > > > takes is practice. > > > > > > > > > > Just my rambling $0.02 > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2499. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 18:47:58 -0000

> > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on > the board. > > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less > than, > > say 20 seconds? > > What do you mean with "catch"? > > Cheers! > Stefan > I guess "notice" Tim
2500. Re: 4x4x4 blindfold
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:01:26 -0000

Some notes: I used stefan's method to solve the 4x4x4 blindfolded (am I the first? :) ) and it's very, very nice and easy to understand. You need to visit some of the old posts in the BLD group to understand it, but it's really simple after that. Basically you have a buffer that swaps between two places. Don't worry, you'll get it :) Oh, and Chris is going to Big-Up(tm) his way of moving blocks of pieces at a time (which i'm trying at the moment), don't delve in until you understand the basics :) The algs I use: Parity: R' F' (l' U2) (l' U2) x (U2 l') (U2 r) x' (U2 r') (U2 l2) F R Edges: R U R' U' (Rr) R' U R U' (Rr)' (Rr) U R' U' (Rr)' R U R U' R' Centres: U r' u' r U' r' u r r' u' r U r' u r U' ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey, > > As far as I know there are two main, popular, methods for solving the > edges and centers. One is Stefan's method (what doesn't Stefan do > right?) and the other is called freestyle cycling. Also look out for > a new one potentially coming soon, but I'll keep it at least somewhat > quiet until the inventor comes posts about it. > > Stefan's approach works exactly like his BLD method does for permuting > pieces on the 3x3, you solve pieces one at a time using a buffer piece > and a location that you always setup an edge/center to. I know the > basics of this method, but I'm not that good at it. However this > method rocks, it's very fast paced and you will be able to solve the > pieces quickly. > > Freestyle cycling is what I do, basically you get to know and love > commutators and that's all you use. Just setup two edges (or centers) > onto the same slice and one edge/center off that slice. Then use a > commutator to move them. This approach requires a lot more thought > than Stefan's method for each piece you solve, but it requires many > fewer moves. > > Stefan and I have raced eachother with both approaches a number of > times and they are pretty much tied. Both of our times were and are > very similar, so it really just depends on which approach you like > better. Stefan's method is all about faster recall and easier mental > visualization, where freestyle cycling as about pure efficiency, but > you expend a lot of thought power per piece trying to figure out how > to cycle it. > > If you want more specifics then you can check out the BLD group. Also > feel free to e-mail me or Stefan, I'm sure both of us could give you > tips for either method, though my knowledge of his method is fairly basic. > > Which method are you interested in first? Then you can decide how to > go from there. > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "washyourmonkey" > <washyourmonkey@> wrote: > > > > im interested in doing the 4x4x4 blindfolded. i understand the concept > > because i have been doing the 3x3x3 for a while, but i dont really > > know the algs for the center cycling and the edge cycling and i was > > wanding if there was a good plac that might have them. > > >
2501. Re: Colors for speed
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:10:26 -0000

I like to keep yellow and white (bright) on the L or R sides for my two blocks, because since most of the time is in the first two blocks, you want them standing out. Plus, they're easily distinguished. For my top layer/bottom layer, I have blue/green. This is because these colours are the ones most similar to each other on the cube. This is handy for: Inverted blocks Orientation of the LSE Seeing multiple blocks as the same block Thinking about the last one, I try and see green/blue as the same colour, so that when I solve, I can start on a white or yellow block, with either blue or green at the bottom, and it will not feel strange. This allows me to start on any one of four blocks, then expand to a further two different ones. Of course, you need NMCMLL :) Ever tryed solving on colours you're not used to? baffling. Didn't used to be when i used petrus, but It felt 'wrong'. Also, solving on my cube with the weird colour scheme is odd, (orange is opposite white). ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > I'm 1 second faster when using my own colors (fluo orange/dark red, > fluo green/dark blue). > > The question is rarely discussed. It's surprising, because speedcubing > is based on anticipation, and color perception in fundamental. > > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. > > Gilles. >
2502. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:33:41 +0100

Message #27118 (e.g.) With "catch" I meant "memorize". But skip it! It´s not that important. From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > No idea? > > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on the board. > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less than, > say 20 seconds? Hmm, what message are you referring to? "Up Thread" leads here: http://games.groups.yahoo. com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/26956 What do you mean with "catch"? Cheers! Stefan Yahoo! Groups Links
2503. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:35:05 +0000 (GMT)

Hi Stefan, Nowadays, finding out mate in 3 or 4 or even 5 is a childs play even when all the pieces are on the board. They know exactly what to look for and where to look etc ? If you know all the basic end games in chess, it is a cat's walk!! John Louis Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@verizon.net> wrote: > > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on > the board. > > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less > than, > > say 20 seconds? > > What do you mean with "catch"? > > Cheers! > Stefan > I guess "notice" Tim SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2504. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cubesmith tiles -- which ones?
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:44:35 -0800 (PST)

get the lexan ones! I have those, and they are great! they havent been peeling up like the ones that come with hte cube and they are reallllllly nice! get them! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "stuart.a.hall" <stuart.a.hall@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > Decided to bite the bullet and buy some cubesmith tiles... but which > are the ones to get that you are all raving about? I see standard > rubiks 3x3 tiles, but I also see lexan tiles which are a bit more money. > > I assume more money == better tiles, but thought I would ask. Thanks! > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2505. Re: Official World Record Prizes
From: "jello33" <chris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:44:25 -0000

I'm sure you'll be setting more records this year Stephan. ;) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jello33" <chris@> > wrote: > > > > I'd like to announce that I'll be awarding a small prize to anyone > > that breaks an "Official WCA World Record" as recognized by the WCA > > and www.speedcubing.com > > Gosh, why didn't you say that earlier? :-) > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2506. Re: bld video
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 20:38:41 -0000

> Read this: > > http://www.slate.com/id/2114925/?GT1=6208 > > http://c1blog.blogspot.com/2005/03/memory-olympiads.html Oh my god..... Memorizing a deck of cards in 45 seconds is effectively memorizing two 4x4x4 edge permutations (with 4 pieces solved already, very likely) in 45 seconds. I take about 3:00 for one 4x4x4 edge permutation. Even with my centers, where I average about 17 pieces unsolved, I still take 1:30-2:00. Oh my god......... Blindfolded cubing is nowhere near it's limits... not even close by far.... Hardly even beginning to catch up to what it could be.... Seriously that's depressing, I feel like a complete newb to BLD memorizing now.... Man, that is at once inspiring, and also kinda dream crushing. If I could memorize a 4x4x4 in 2:30 and solve in my usual 5:30-6:30 that would be amazing. Wow..... so much to learn.... Chris
2507. Re: bld video
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:00:48 -0000

"They memorize numbers much the same way. Cooke converts every two- digit number from 00 to 99 into a familiar object or person, so that every six digits form a sentence. When he sees 342102, Cooke imagines Frank Sinatra crooning the Britney Spears' song " … Baby One More Time" to an obelisk. When he's doing well, this translation is happening instantaneously. At his best, he can store about 300 digits, or 50 sentences, in his head in five minutes." This is about a digit per second. Now, digits are all of the same nature. The cube is a little kinder in the sense that it is already divided up into four elements which we solve (EO, EP, CP, CO). Taking the total number of pieces to memorize at the maximum (8 corners to orient, 8 to permute, 12 edges to orient, 12 to permute), this is 40 pieces of data, a far cry from something as large as 300. Not only this, but 40 is assuming everything needs solving during execution (even then it would be easy to know that a Superflip would be needed to solve 12 bad edges, but let us assume that more pieces = harder to solve), AND these 40 pieces of data are already chunked into 4 different elements -- these advantages far outweigh the delays of turning the cube around to actually inspect the data. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Read this: > > > > http://www.slate.com/id/2114925/?GT1=6208 > > > > http://c1blog.blogspot.com/2005/03/memory-olympiads.html > > Oh my god..... > > Memorizing a deck of cards in 45 seconds is effectively memorizing > two 4x4x4 edge permutations (with 4 pieces solved already, very > likely) in 45 seconds. > > I take about 3:00 for one 4x4x4 edge permutation. > > Even with my centers, where I average about 17 pieces unsolved, I > still take 1:30-2:00. > > Oh my god......... > > Blindfolded cubing is nowhere near it's limits... not even close by > far.... Hardly even beginning to catch up to what it could be.... > > Seriously that's depressing, I feel like a complete newb to BLD > memorizing now.... Man, that is at once inspiring, and also kinda > dream crushing. > > If I could memorize a 4x4x4 in 2:30 and solve in my usual 5:30- 6:30 > that would be amazing. Wow..... so much to learn.... > > Chris >
2508. Ultimate Skewb
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:18:20 -0000

Does anyone else speedsolve this? I've been learning mefferts non-notation method and it seems wasteful. Some of the time you can't actually finish it with that solution. I looked at jaap's other solution for a while but couldn't understand it :S Yeah, i know jaap wrote them both :) I just lubed it and it turns really nicly, so I'm in the mood for getting into this puzzle :) ~Thom
2509. Re: bld video
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:55:06 -0000

> Taking the total number of pieces to memorize at the maximum (8 > corners to orient, 8 to permute, 12 edges to orient, 12 to permute), > this is 40 pieces of data, ! 40?!?! I can't watch this... I just did a BKD solve where I memorised 17 pieces of data.
2510. Re: bld video
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:59:22 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > > Taking the total number of pieces to memorize at the maximum (8 > > corners to orient, 8 to permute, 12 edges to orient, 12 to permute), > > this is 40 pieces of data, > > ! > > 40?!?! > > I can't watch this... I just did a BKD solve where I memorised 17 > pieces of data. > Sorry for the typo, I meant BLD solve. quote: "They memorize numbers much the same way. Cooke converts every two- digit number from 00 to 99 into a familiar object or person, so that every six digits form a sentence. When he sees 342102, Cooke imagines Frank Sinatra crooning the Britney Spears' song " … Baby One More Time" to an obelisk. When he's doing well, this translation is happening instantaneously. At his best, he can store about 300 digits, or 50 sentences, in his head in five minutes." That's cool...! Yeah converting the cube into pieces of information in my head and backwards isn't going very fast... I hope I can also do that instantaneously once :). - Joël.
2511. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:57:47 -0000

John, Do you play blindfold chess? If you do, could you send me an email? :) -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > Nowadays, finding out mate in 3 or 4 or even 5 is a childs play even when all the pieces are on the board. They know exactly what to look for and where to look etc ? > If you know all the basic end games in chess, it is a cat's walk!! > John Louis > > Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on > > the board. > > > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less > > than, > > > say 20 seconds? > > > > What do you mean with "catch"? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > I guess "notice" > > Tim > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2512. Cube Alarm Clock?
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 18:16:28 -0600

I saw this on digg: http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/puzzle-alarm-clock-presents-mild-challenge-wakes-you-up-157999.php and after I did, I started thinking if there was a way to create a cube alarm clock. I mean, that would definitely wake you up. And if it doesn't wake you up, at least you get some cubing practice. What are your views? -- -cubekid
2513. Re: bld video
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:17:02 -0000

Hey Chris, (and others) I found a yahoo group with people that like to memorise stuff :). http://groups.yahoo.com/group/memorysports/messages Maybe they can help us out a little.. :) Maybe I'll try to post a serious message there tomorrow morning. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Read this: > > > > http://www.slate.com/id/2114925/?GT1=6208 > > > > http://c1blog.blogspot.com/2005/03/memory-olympiads.html > > Oh my god..... > > Memorizing a deck of cards in 45 seconds is effectively memorizing > two 4x4x4 edge permutations (with 4 pieces solved already, very > likely) in 45 seconds. > > I take about 3:00 for one 4x4x4 edge permutation. > > Even with my centers, where I average about 17 pieces unsolved, I > still take 1:30-2:00. > > Oh my god......... > > Blindfolded cubing is nowhere near it's limits... not even close by > far.... Hardly even beginning to catch up to what it could be.... > > Seriously that's depressing, I feel like a complete newb to BLD > memorizing now.... Man, that is at once inspiring, and also kinda > dream crushing. > > If I could memorize a 4x4x4 in 2:30 and solve in my usual 5:30- 6:30 > that would be amazing. Wow..... so much to learn.... > > Chris >
2514. Re: bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:31:02 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Oh my god......... > > Blindfolded cubing is nowhere near it's limits... not even close by > far.... Hardly even beginning to catch up to what it could be.... Oh really? Wow, maybe this can explain this two years old quote: http://www.speedcubing.com/records/recs_bf_megaminx.html Cheers! Stefan
2515. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 17:38:02 -0800 (PST)

i haven't played blindfold chess since highschool, but i have done it and i do still play regular with a ranking of about 1800-2000 depending on the day. i'd be up for a game sometime :) ----- Original Message ---- From: richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 3:57:47 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video John, Do you play blindfold chess? If you do, could you send me an email? :) -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > Nowadays, finding out mate in 3 or 4 or even 5 is a childs play even when all the pieces are on the board. They know exactly what to look for and where to look etc ? > If you know all the basic end games in chess, it is a cat's walk!! > John Louis > > Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on > > the board. > > > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less > > than, > > > say 20 seconds? > > > > What do you mean with "catch"? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > I guess "notice" > > Tim > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2516. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:08:02 -0000

Just one question: How do you play BLD chess??? Call out moves??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > i haven't played blindfold chess since highschool, but i have done it and i do still play regular with a ranking of about 1800-2000 depending on the day. i'd be up for a game sometime :) > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2006 3:57:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video > > John, > Do you play blindfold chess? If you do, could you send me an > email? :) >
2517. 2006 white cubes w/arched centers
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:33:47 -0000

In short these are identical to the 2006 black DIY, but with white plastic. They have the same new corner caps with gap, but with manufacturing code (M1005B). The centers are arched, with the new caps. The washers are white plastic, too. Photo of all piece types: http://tinyurl.com/lp5q3 Photo of white washers: http://tinyurl.com/o6dne Photo with Cubesmith tiles: http://tinyurl.com/madjg It feels very similar to the 2006 DIY, which is to say excellent. Chris
2518. Re: bld video
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:42:04 -0000

> > Maybe I'll try to post a serious message there tomorrow morning. > > - Joël. I posted this message there, and it is currently waiting for approval. ------------ Hi, I'm new to this group, I just joined today. My name is Chris Hardwick and I'm posting here about a memory sport that has only been around since the invention of the Rubik's cube, but in recent years has gained a lot of popularity. I'm a competitive speedcuber, and a number of us speedcubers have also picked up the event of solving a Rubik's cube blindfolded. The procedure in an official competition works like this, you start the timer and begin memorizing your scrambled cube. You then put on the blindfold and solve and at the end of the solve stop a timer. The overall time is considered the time for your attempt and we rank each other for the fastest times. The current world record for doing this is 1 minute 46.47 seconds. The top blindfolded solvers can memorize a 3x3x3 Rubik's cube in around 40 seconds or less on a good run, and probably average 40-50 seconds given distractions or a sub-optimal solving environment. Our unofficial record for fastest time to memorize a cube on a successful solve is 27 seconds. We do not have an official record for this. There is a lot of discussion going on about how to improve blindfolded cubing. We have alread developed a number of very efficient and sophisticated solving techniques, but memorization for most of us is not our strong point. After hearing that some people can memorize a deck of cards in around 45 seconds or less, I personally think that us speedcubers are not memorizing very well, and that much time can be dropped by using a good technique. If you are interested in reading about speedcubing, our main resource site is www.speedcubing.com and if you are interested in blindfolded cubing please check out our yahoo group at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks-cube/ I personally have a theory that if either a blindfold cuber learned to truly train their memory, or if someone who had already mastered their memory learned one of our very efficient methods for solving a Rubik's cube blindfolded, that greats things could be done in this developing competitive memory arena. Again blindfolded cubing has had most of its popularity in the last 5 years or so, but already 30 people have officially solved a Rubik's cube blindfolded in competition at least once in 2005 alone. This is up from 9 in 2004. So go easy on us! We are an up and coming memory sport, and I would personally like to wish a warm welcome from the blindfolded cubing community to the memory sports community. I have lots of questions to ask about memory training technqiues, and if anyone here is interested in this new area for showing off your memory I would be personally willing to show you a very efficient way to solve a cube blindfolded via e-mail coorespondence, or I can point you to a number of good online resources that show this too. I hope we can help each other out in some way, and if nothing else I feel I have so much to learn as far as my memory goes, and I would love this opportunity for a memory expert to help our blindfolded cubing community. Regards, Chris ------------------------------ Chris
2519. Re: Ultimate Skewb
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 04:32:08 -0000

Hi Thom, I've noticed my Ultimate Skewb sitting on my shelf for a while. I tried using the mefferts solution a while ago, and it took me a while to get the hang of it. When I get back from my trip this weekend, maybe I'll look into it more for speedsolving. Let us know (or email me personally if no one else wants to hear about it, cparlett@...) if you develop some algorithms and methods. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > Does anyone else speedsolve this? > > I've been learning mefferts non-notation method and it seems wasteful. > Some of the time you can't actually finish it with that solution. I > looked at jaap's other solution for a while but couldn't understand it :S > > Yeah, i know jaap wrote them both :) > > I just lubed it and it turns really nicly, so I'm in the mood for > getting into this puzzle :) > > ~Thom >
2520. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2006 white cubes w/arched centers
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 23:31:38 -0800 (PST)

That is one purty looking cube. Mine is due to arrive anytime now. Don't know why the washers are white when no one can see them. --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > In short these are identical to the 2006 black DIY, > but with white > plastic. They have the same new corner caps with > gap, but with > manufacturing code (M1005B). The centers are > arched, with the new > caps. The washers are white plastic, too. > > Photo of all piece types: > http://tinyurl.com/lp5q3 > > Photo of white washers: > http://tinyurl.com/o6dne > > Photo with Cubesmith tiles: > http://tinyurl.com/madjg > > It feels very similar to the 2006 DIY, which is to > say excellent. > > Chris > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2521. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube Alarm Clock?
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:41:02 +0100

Do you want to have to solve it in order to stop the sound ? :p That would be a bit more difficult to do lol. Though that's a good idea ;-) GilleS. 2006/3/3, Sapan Upadhyay <cubekid@...>: > I saw this on digg: > > http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/puzzle-alarm-clock-presents-mild-challenge-wakes-you-up-157999.php > > > and after I did, I started thinking if there was a way to create a > cube alarm clock. I mean, that would definitely wake you up. And if it > doesn't wake you up, at least you get some cubing practice. > > What are your views? > > -- > -cubekid > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2522. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: bld video
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:51:07 +0100

haha, anyone wants to memorize the cube in 12 seconds ? :p The answer is just awesome. Moreover he says that some people have already tried to memorize cubes :-) This is going to be very interesting. Gilles. 2006/3/3, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>: > > > > Maybe I'll try to post a serious message there tomorrow morning. > > > > - Joël. > > I posted this message there, and it is currently waiting for > approval. > > ------------ > > Hi, > > I'm new to this group, I just joined today. My name is Chris > Hardwick and I'm posting here about a memory sport that has only > been around since the invention of the Rubik's cube, but in recent > years has gained a lot of popularity. > > I'm a competitive speedcuber, and a number of us speedcubers have > also picked up the event of solving a Rubik's cube blindfolded. The > procedure in an official competition works like this, you start the > timer and begin memorizing your scrambled cube. You then put on the > blindfold and solve and at the end of the solve stop a timer. The > overall time is considered the time for your attempt and we rank > each other for the fastest times. The current world record for > doing this is 1 minute 46.47 seconds. > > The top blindfolded solvers can memorize a 3x3x3 Rubik's cube in > around 40 seconds or less on a good run, and probably average 40-50 > seconds given distractions or a sub-optimal solving environment. > Our unofficial record for fastest time to memorize a cube on a > successful solve is 27 seconds. We do not have an official record > for this. > > There is a lot of discussion going on about how to improve > blindfolded cubing. We have alread developed a number of very > efficient and sophisticated solving techniques, but memorization for > most of us is not our strong point. > > After hearing that some people can memorize a deck of cards in > around 45 seconds or less, I personally think that us speedcubers > are not memorizing very well, and that much time can be dropped by > using a good technique. > > If you are interested in reading about speedcubing, our main > resource site is www.speedcubing.com and if you are interested in > blindfolded cubing please check out our yahoo group at > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks-cube/ > > I personally have a theory that if either a blindfold cuber learned > to truly train their memory, or if someone who had already mastered > their memory learned one of our very efficient methods for solving a > Rubik's cube blindfolded, that greats things could be done in this > developing competitive memory arena. > > Again blindfolded cubing has had most of its popularity in the last > 5 years or so, but already 30 people have officially solved a > Rubik's cube blindfolded in competition at least once in 2005 > alone. This is up from 9 in 2004. So go easy on us! We are an up > and coming memory sport, and I would personally like to wish a warm > welcome from the blindfolded cubing community to the memory sports > community. I have lots of questions to ask about memory training > technqiues, and if anyone here is interested in this new area for > showing off your memory I would be personally willing to show you a > very efficient way to solve a cube blindfolded via e-mail > coorespondence, or I can point you to a number of good online > resources that show this too. > > I hope we can help each other out in some way, and if nothing else I > feel I have so much to learn as far as my memory goes, and I would > love this opportunity for a memory expert to help our blindfolded > cubing community. > > Regards, > Chris > ------------------------------ > > Chris > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2523. [Speed cubing group] Re: bld video
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:13:24 -0000

I tried my best to convert memorizing the cube into a comparable system for memorizing cards. I hope someone responds. I get the feeling that the times will be very good with their cube-comparable cards system. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/memorysports/message/408 Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > haha, anyone wants to memorize the cube in 12 seconds ? :p > > The answer is just awesome. Moreover he says that some people have > already tried to memorize cubes :-) > > This is going to be very interesting. > > Gilles.
2524. Re: Ultimate Skewb
From: "Emanuele" <bw.project@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 09:24:35 -0000

I'm interested too! I managed to solve mine with the mefferts solution twice or three times, but I still don't understand that method. If you know something, plz, let me know. Emanuele --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...> wrote: > > Hi Thom, > > I've noticed my Ultimate Skewb sitting on my shelf for a while. I > tried using the mefferts solution a while ago, and it took me a while > to get the hang of it. When I get back from my trip this weekend, > maybe I'll look into it more for speedsolving. Let us know (or email > me personally if no one else wants to hear about it, > cparlett@...) if you develop some algorithms and methods. > > -Chris Parlette > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > Does anyone else speedsolve this? > > > > I've been learning mefferts non-notation method and it seems wasteful. > > Some of the time you can't actually finish it with that solution. I > > looked at jaap's other solution for a while but couldn't understand > it :S > > > > Yeah, i know jaap wrote them both :) > > > > I just lubed it and it turns really nicly, so I'm in the mood for > > getting into this puzzle :) > > > > ~Thom > > >
2525. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 10:18:04 +0000 (GMT)

Chris, In my opinion, with a good memory technique and a good cube sighting , 3*3*3 can be memorised in 20 sec and 4*4*4 in 112 sec and 5*5*5 in 184 sec. A piece can be memorised in a sec in 3*3*3 but in 2 sec in 4*4*4 and 5*5*5 respectively. And of course the cuber should be as enthusiastic as you and as young(old)as you. I am 46. I can not memorise as fast as you, although I know some memory techniques.(Carl Lewis can not run 100 mt race in sub 10 sec anymore although he knows all the tricks and trade of running 100 mt). As you are getting older speed cuts down but not recalling. How to use the phonetic sound and its value system to memorise 3*3*3 plz visit www.freewebs.com/bernett. John Louis cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I tried my best to convert memorizing the cube into a comparable system for memorizing cards. I hope someone responds. I get the feeling that the times will be very good with their cube-comparable cards system. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/memorysports/message/408 Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > haha, anyone wants to memorize the cube in 12 seconds ? :p > > The answer is just awesome. Moreover he says that some people have > already tried to memorize cubes :-) > > This is going to be very interesting. > > Gilles. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2526. Re: Help w/ the Cross + Pair 1
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 12:29:34 -0000

How long have you been cubing? I started April 2004. I usually just plan white cross. While solving it I usually can see a corner which belongs to white layer. Then I just turn the cube around to see where is the edge. My best (and only) F2L average is 8.60 seconds. Cross takes about 2 seconds. Only key is praaaactice. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > I build a cross and my first pair. > > This takes about ten seconds. It's awful > > Can anybody give me tips on how to help w/ this step in my cubing. > > Here's an avg of 12 on my cross w/ P1 > > 9.32, 7.77, 9.91, 8.98, 7.92, 6.13, 8.69, (4.50), 8.68, 6.22, (10.60), > 8.52 => 8.21 > > granted this was actually very good for me and if I had not of stopped > on that 6.22 I would of had sub 30 > > but what do you guys look for that allow you to do the whole f2l in sub > 15?! >
2527. Re: bld video
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 13:02:54 -0000

Hi Stefan! Aren't you gonna try megaminx blindfolded again?? I can see that, if it will take you some 5 hours, you don't think it's worth the effort, but it would be cool if you could lower the record with a few hours :-) How hard was it to do compared with, say 5*5*5?? Did you go slow during the solve to be sure you didn't mess up anything? /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > Oh my god......... > > > > Blindfolded cubing is nowhere near it's limits... not even close by > > far.... Hardly even beginning to catch up to what it could be.... > > Oh really? Wow, maybe this can explain this two years old quote: > http://www.speedcubing.com/records/recs_bf_megaminx.html > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2528. Interesting idea for 5x5 and Bigger !!!UPDATE!!!
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:34:35 -0000

UPDATE!!! Alright, well, this is my primary solving method for 5x5 now, and I got a time that was 1 second off my PB this morning. My times have been dropping steadily as I get more used to the method, and I think I will break my PB during my spare...This is looking to be a good method in the end... Craig > > > Well, > > > > > > Lately I've been solving the bigger cubes (biggest so far is 10x10) I > > > started on thursday I think with 7x7, then friday 8x8, saturday 9x9, > > > and sunday 10x10 (I did a 6x6 too) And I am trying to find the most > > > efficient way of doing these, and I think it can apply to 5x5 as well. > > > > > > Ok, here goes... > > > 1: Solve all Centers > > > 2: using the (Ll) F' L F (Ll)' Solve the white edges and put them in > > place > > > 3: Put in first layer (white) corners > > > 4: Solve the "middle" edges (like the cage) so it solves them > > > directly, and you won't have to solve as 3x3 at the end. > > > 5: Solve LL corners > > > 6: Solve LL edges (using 3 cycles, or commutators or whatever you > want) > > > > > > I haven't tried it yet, but I woke up this morning and this was the > > > first thing that came to my mind. It solves all the pieces directly, > > > so you don't have to do anything extra at the end. I'll try it today > > > sometime hopefully. > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > PS - This post is long for me... > > > > > >
2529. Re: bld video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:16:41 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan! > > Aren't you gonna try megaminx blindfolded again?? I can see that, if > it will take you some 5 hours, you don't think it's worth the effort, > but it would be cool if you could lower the record with a few hours :-) > > How hard was it to do compared with, say 5*5*5?? Did you go slow > during the solve to be sure you didn't mess up anything? > > /Gunnar Yes, one day I want to solve megaminx blindfolded again, and much faster. I have better ideas for execution now, but I'm too lazy to practice memorization techniques. I want to become better at that before I try some larger blindsolving things again. I stepped right from 3x3 to megaminx, no 4x4 or 5x5 in between. The megaminx was my first real heavy usage of a memorization technique. That's why it took so long. Also, it's harder to setup pieces. I can't say what's harder, 5x5 or megaminx, one is easier this way, the other is easier that way. Hey Chris, you're funny :-). Did you really not know about these techniques and records until now? I somewhat thought it's common knowledge at least among the blindcubers now. Btw, why did you ask that memorizer about memorizing the cube through numbers again? It's so obvious he'll tell you to *not* use numbers. Cheers! Stefan
2530. Sunday Contest
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:23:35 -0000

Hi Everyone, Last weeks Sunday Contest was the biggest ever... With 46 participants from 13 different countries. I'm encouraging everone to participate and let's see how big this thing can get! Jon http://www.nascarjon.us
2531. Colors for speed - the expert's answer :)
From: cycastel <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 15:52:16 -0000

Hi, I got the answer from an expert :-) You'll find below the email I wrote to Rochester's Laboratory dedicated to color science, they have a webpage where one can ask color scientists about color perception among many other subjects: http://www.cis.rit.edu/mcsl/outreach/categories.php So here is a scientific optimal color scheme, let start peeling our orange stickers ;-) "Thanks for your inquiry. Generally research on color contrast involves only two colors (such as text on a background), so this is definitely an interesting question. You have already identified black and white and they should certainly be included in your set of six. The next step would be to include 4 chromatic colors that are of intermediate lightness (i.e., not very dark or very light so that they are not easily confused with the white or black). While it is difficult to say what the optimum choices would be, there is probably very little to gain in performance once the colors are separated into distinct hue categories that would not be confused. For example, choosing yellow, green, blue, and red would be about as good as you can do. You just want to make sure that the blue and green are clearly distinguishable which might be accomplished best by making the blue slightly purplish. I hope this helps. -Mark" ... and here was the question I sent to them: Hi, I am a member of an internet forum dedicated to the Rubik's cube (I am quite sure you remember this puzzle !), and more precisely to speedsolving this puzzle. As you may remember, there are 6 different colors (white, yellow, dark red, orange, dark blue, and dark green), one for each cube face in the solved state. Each face is divided into 9 squares. Some people are able to solve the cube under 20 secondes on average, using a 7-step method. Steps 2-7 involve "instant" recognition of a case (1 out of ~50 for step 6, one out of ~20 for step 7 for example) and the execution of the memorized corresponding moves sequence. The question is, do you have an idea about the "ideal" color scheme that one should use for optimizing the color discrimination ability, hence decreasing the decision time ? This can be reworded as "what is the set of 6 colors (including black/white) that human eye is the best (=faster?) to be able to discriminate ?". I would be very happy if you have any idea or references about this topic ! Thank you very much for your answer Cyril --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. Gilles.
2532. Re: Colors for speed - the expert's answer :)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:09:01 -0000

Wow, so use the standard scheme, but replace orange with black? What if you use flourescent orange? I would think that provides enough of a different contrast from dark red. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cycastel <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I got the answer from an expert :-) > You'll find below the email I wrote to Rochester's Laboratory > dedicated to color science, they have a webpage where one can ask > color scientists about color perception among many other subjects: > http://www.cis.rit.edu/mcsl/outreach/categories.php > > So here is a scientific optimal color scheme, let start peeling our > orange stickers ;-) > > "Thanks for your inquiry. > > Generally research on color contrast involves only two colors (such > as text on a background), so this is definitely an interesting > question. You have already identified black and white and they > should certainly be included in your set of six. The next step would > be to include 4 chromatic colors that are of intermediate lightness > (i.e., not very dark or very light so that they are not easily > confused with the white or black). While it is difficult to say what > the optimum choices would be, there is probably very little to gain > in performance once the colors are separated into distinct hue > categories that would not be confused. For example, choosing yellow, > green, blue, and red would be about as good as you can do. You just > want to make sure that the blue and green are clearly distinguishable > which might be accomplished best by making the blue slightly purplish. > > I hope this helps. > > -Mark" > > > ... and here was the question I sent to them: > > Hi, > I am a member of an internet forum dedicated to the Rubik's cube (I am > quite sure you remember this puzzle !), and more precisely to > speedsolving this puzzle. As you may remember, there are 6 different > colors (white, yellow, dark red, orange, dark blue, and dark green), > one for each cube face in the solved state. Each face is divided into > 9 squares. Some people are able to solve the cube under 20 secondes on > average, using a 7-step method. Steps 2-7 involve "instant" > recognition of a case (1 out of ~50 for step 6, one out of ~20 for > step 7 for example) and the execution of the memorized corresponding > moves sequence. > The question is, do you have an idea about the "ideal" color scheme > that one should use for optimizing the color discrimination ability, > hence decreasing the decision time ? This can be reworded as "what is > the set of 6 colors (including black/white) that human eye is the best > (=faster?) to be able to discriminate ?". I would be very happy if you > have any idea or references about this topic ! > Thank you very much for your answer > > Cyril > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. > Gilles. >
2533. Re: Colors for speed - the expert's answer :)
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:09:04 -0000

He talks about making blue and green clearly distinguishable. He's right. Sometimes, when both are a bit dark, it's not easy. That's why I have bright (fluo) green and dark blue. My other dark color is red. Even if blue and red are very dark, you can make the difference because of the hue. And it makes orange very distinct from red. Brightness is a decisive component, and it depends on the color. I used to cube with 2 blue sides, one very bright, one very dark. It was not bad at all! Ask your expert for the best set of 6 HSV vectors! Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cycastel <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I got the answer from an expert :-) > You'll find below the email I wrote to Rochester's Laboratory > dedicated to color science, they have a webpage where one can ask > color scientists about color perception among many other subjects: > http://www.cis.rit.edu/mcsl/outreach/categories.php > > So here is a scientific optimal color scheme, let start peeling our > orange stickers ;-) > > "Thanks for your inquiry. > > Generally research on color contrast involves only two colors (such > as text on a background), so this is definitely an interesting > question. You have already identified black and white and they > should certainly be included in your set of six. The next step would > be to include 4 chromatic colors that are of intermediate lightness > (i.e., not very dark or very light so that they are not easily > confused with the white or black). While it is difficult to say what > the optimum choices would be, there is probably very little to gain > in performance once the colors are separated into distinct hue > categories that would not be confused. For example, choosing yellow, > green, blue, and red would be about as good as you can do. You just > want to make sure that the blue and green are clearly distinguishable > which might be accomplished best by making the blue slightly purplish. > > I hope this helps. > > -Mark" > > > ... and here was the question I sent to them: > > Hi, > I am a member of an internet forum dedicated to the Rubik's cube (I am > quite sure you remember this puzzle !), and more precisely to > speedsolving this puzzle. As you may remember, there are 6 different > colors (white, yellow, dark red, orange, dark blue, and dark green), > one for each cube face in the solved state. Each face is divided into > 9 squares. Some people are able to solve the cube under 20 secondes on > average, using a 7-step method. Steps 2-7 involve "instant" > recognition of a case (1 out of ~50 for step 6, one out of ~20 for > step 7 for example) and the execution of the memorized corresponding > moves sequence. > The question is, do you have an idea about the "ideal" color scheme > that one should use for optimizing the color discrimination ability, > hence decreasing the decision time ? This can be reworded as "what is > the set of 6 colors (including black/white) that human eye is the best > (=faster?) to be able to discriminate ?". I would be very happy if you > have any idea or references about this topic ! > Thank you very much for your answer > > Cyril > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > We'd need some expert in color discrimination by the human eye to tell > the perfect set of colors for speed-cubing. Black may be one of them. > Gilles. >
2534. Re: Ultimate Skewb
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 17:36:13 -0000

Hey I've been pretty much using mefferts method for a bit now, but I'm sure there's a much better one. Good puzzle, bad methods. I'm sure there is a better one. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...> wrote: > > Hi Thom, > > I've noticed my Ultimate Skewb sitting on my shelf for a while. I > tried using the mefferts solution a while ago, and it took me a while > to get the hang of it. When I get back from my trip this weekend, > maybe I'll look into it more for speedsolving. Let us know (or email > me personally if no one else wants to hear about it, > cparlett@...) if you develop some algorithms and methods. > > -Chris Parlette > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > Does anyone else speedsolve this? > > > > I've been learning mefferts non-notation method and it seems wasteful. > > Some of the time you can't actually finish it with that solution. I > > looked at jaap's other solution for a while but couldn't understand > it :S > > > > Yeah, i know jaap wrote them both :) > > > > I just lubed it and it turns really nicly, so I'm in the mood for > > getting into this puzzle :) > > > > ~Thom > > >
2535. Re: [Speed cubing group] Sunday Contest
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 14:48:51 -0300 (ART)

And I did a 20+ average! Oh, no...the biggest contest ever and I do that bad...haha Pedro nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Hi Everyone, Last weeks Sunday Contest was the biggest ever... With 46 participants from 13 different countries. I'm encouraging everone to participate and let's see how big this thing can get! Jon http://www.nascarjon.us SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Search Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2536. Re: Help w/ the Cross + Pair 1
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:00:56 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > How long have you been cubing? I started April 2004. > I usually just plan white cross. While solving it I usually can see > a corner which belongs to white layer. Then I just turn the cube > around to see where is the edge. My best (and only) F2L average is > 8.60 seconds. Cross takes about 2 seconds. Only key is praaaactice. I've been speed solving the cube for several years now. I've been sub 60 for over a year now, since the start of my Junior year (2004- 2005) Back then I used a LBL method and picked up on PLL. F2L was the way to go though. January 16, 2006 I started Fridrich F2L from Hardwick's site It took me two weeks to get all the f2l cases memorized. I was struggling still at first. It is now March 3 So I've been using F2L for about 5 weeks. My PB is 27.42 seconds w/ Fridrich I'm learning COLL and redoing my Edge PLLs
2537. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Help w/ the Cross + Pair 1
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:41:52 -0500

Man. I've been practicing 3LLL with Fridrich F2L for like 6 months and I'm still averaging in the high 40's. I may have to go to a competition soon just so I can get some advice on what the heck I'm doing wrong. On 3/3/06, Daniel Beyer <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" > > <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > > > How long have you been cubing? I started April 2004. > > I usually just plan white cross. While solving it I usually can see > > a corner which belongs to white layer. Then I just turn the cube > > around to see where is the edge. My best (and only) F2L average is > > 8.60 seconds. Cross takes about 2 seconds. Only key is praaaactice. > > I've been speed solving the cube for several years now. I've been > sub 60 for over a year now, since the start of my Junior year (2004- > 2005) > > Back then I used a LBL method and picked up on PLL. F2L was the way > to go though. > > January 16, 2006 I started Fridrich F2L from Hardwick's site > It took me two weeks to get all the f2l cases memorized. I was > struggling still at first. It is now March 3 So I've been using F2L > for about 5 weeks. My PB is 27.42 seconds w/ Fridrich > I'm learning COLL and redoing my Edge PLLs > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2538. Re: Ultimate Skewb
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:19:07 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > I've been pretty much using mefferts method for a bit now, but I'm > sure there's a much better one. > > Good puzzle, bad methods. I'm sure there is a better one. What is so bad about it? Presumably the authors wanted to present a simple solution method that could be learnt relatively easily. Their leaflet does that job. Would it be appropriate for Rubik's Cube to be boxed with a hefty manual describing the Fridrich method -- and nothing simpler? Mike
2539. Re: Help w/ the Cross + Pair 1
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:22:20 -0000

Take a video of yourself and look for any hesitations. Work on that area. It's likely the F2L. I took a video of a dozen or so of my own solves and watched it, and the hesitation was between each F2L pair. So that's my current focus. You can also just time each step (C, F, O, P) separately and see if one needs work. Finally, counting moves (while solving slowly) is useful to ensure you are using an efficient set of algorithms. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > Man. I've been practicing 3LLL with Fridrich F2L for like 6 months and I'm > still averaging in the high 40's. I may have to go to a competition soon > just so I can get some advice on what the heck I'm doing wrong.
2540. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube Alarm Clock?
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:16:44 -0600

yea, i was hoping most people can't do it in their sleep. iono, it may be farfetched, but who knows? On 3/3/06, Gilles van den Peereboom <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > Do you want to have to solve it in order to stop the sound ? :p > > That would be a bit more difficult to do lol. > > Though that's a good idea ;-) > > GilleS. > > 2006/3/3, Sapan Upadhyay <cubekid@gmail.com>: > > I saw this on digg: > > > > http://us.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/puzzle-alarm-clock-presents-mild-challenge-wakes-you-up-157999.php > > > > > > and after I did, I started thinking if there was a way to create a > > cube alarm clock. I mean, that would definitely wake you up. And if it > > doesn't wake you up, at least you get some cubing practice. > > > > What are your views? > > > > -- > > -cubekid > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2541. Re: Ultimate Skewb
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:41:30 -0000

Of course, but it's no good for speedsolving. It does well just as a method to solve the puzzle. I can't find any others described. Apart form jaap's other one, and I don't understand that... meh... ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > I've been pretty much using mefferts method for a bit now, but I'm > > sure there's a much better one. > > > > Good puzzle, bad methods. I'm sure there is a better one. > > What is so bad about it? Presumably the authors wanted to present a > simple solution method that could be learnt relatively easily. Their > leaflet does that job. > > Would it be appropriate for Rubik's Cube to be boxed with a hefty > manual describing the Fridrich method -- and nothing simpler? > > Mike >
2542. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with att
From: "perscription_death" <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:54:23 -0000

ok since credits is apparently becoming an important thing, i will mention it outloud since i don't have the time to complete the page for it now. this site is pretty much frank morris.com. he gave me all the instructions, and methods, and proofread did just about everything but the coding. however some of the last 2 edge algorithms for the professor were found independently by many other people i'm sure. thanks and appreciation goes to all the great bigcubers who's work made the page possible like ron, chris h who also helped with the proofreading of the 4x4 part, frederick badie, and i'm sure many others who's work contributed. if you use the page a lot and think is great, please let frank know because he really let it all out for the site, and appreciation is always great. :) hopefully i will made some great additions and upgrades soon, if i ever have the time, and thanks to all 3,392 unique users who have used the site so far. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> wrote: > > Hi Clancy, > > www.bigcubes.com is a cool website > > what about the credits page ? > > Have fun, > Frédérick > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > still no attachment but i bet this will answer the question anyway > > > > http://www.bigcubes.com/5x5x5/lastedges.html > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@> > > To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:30:35 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re > post) now with attachment! > > > > hi, > > i know this is the slow way of solving the cube but... > > does anyone know how to solve the problem in the > > attachment? (sorry for the bad drawing) > > i realize that the wireframe or "outside in" method is > > easier than top down or middles then top down, but its > > what i have to work with at the moment. the rest of > > the cube is solved. > > -kyle simmons > > > > re posted due to attachment issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2543. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re post) now with att
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:58:37 -0000

Hehe, Clancy what about me for being the Guinea Pig??? hehehe...just bugging... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "perscription_death" <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > ok since credits is apparently becoming an important thing, i will > mention it outloud since i don't have the time to complete the page > for it now. this site is pretty much frank morris.com. he gave me > all the instructions, and methods, and proofread did just about > everything but the coding. however some of the last 2 edge algorithms > for the professor were found independently by many other people i'm > sure. thanks and appreciation goes to all the great bigcubers who's > work made the page possible like ron, chris h who also helped with the > proofreading of the 4x4 part, frederick badie, and i'm sure many > others who's work contributed. if you use the page a lot and think is > great, please let frank know because he really let it all out for the > site, and appreciation is always great. :) hopefully i will made some > great additions and upgrades soon, if i ever have the time, and thanks > to all 3,392 unique users who have used the site so far. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE > <f_badie@> wrote: > > > > Hi Clancy, > > > > www.bigcubes.com is a cool website > > > > what about the credits page ? > > > > Have fun, > > Frédérick > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > > > still no attachment but i bet this will answer the question anyway > > > > > > http://www.bigcubes.com/5x5x5/lastedges.html > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: kyle simmons <beamfreak314@> > > > To: cube group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 3:30:35 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5x5x5 parity issue(the hard way) (re > > post) now with attachment! > > > > > > hi, > > > i know this is the slow way of solving the cube but... > > > does anyone know how to solve the problem in the > > > attachment? (sorry for the bad drawing) > > > i realize that the wireframe or "outside in" method is > > > easier than top down or middles then top down, but its > > > what i have to work with at the moment. the rest of > > > the cube is solved. > > > -kyle simmons > > > > > > re posted due to attachment issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle > > game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational game and puzzle > > Word > > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > Puzzle games > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@...m > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
2544. Natural memorisation
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:41:57 +1100

I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more than a few seconds to memorise. Ryan
2545. Re: [Speed cubing group] Natural memorisation
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:04:28 -0800

The is exactly the way that I memorize when doing blindfold. I just visualize the patch of the cycles, no conversion. I'm slow, about 5 minutes average, but that's because I suck. I know with practice it could be a lot easier. -Chris On 3/3/06, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2546. Re: [Speed cubing group] Natural memorisation
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 19:08:47 -0800

On Mar 3, 2006, at 16:41, Ryan Heise wrote: > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking > at the > cube? That's what I do. I haven't completed a full solve yet so who cares. But I hear Leyan does that as well. That's Leno-Leyan. Haven't heard what Letterman-Leyan uses. The orientations lend themselves quite nicely to immediate visualization. Permutations no doubt require more work and experience, since you can't just look at one piece in isolation and know what to do with it, you're memorizing relations between pieces. - - - - - - - - - - - - "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life." --- Terry Pratchett Lars Petrus - lars@... http://lar5.com
2547. Re: [Speed cubing group] bld video
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 04:29:45 +0000 (GMT)

Richard, I am sorry richy.It is more than 25 years since I played competitive chess locally. There is a chapter(chapter-20)HOW MEMORY IMPROVES YOUR CHESS in how to develop a perfect memory book written by 8 times world champion DOMINIC O'BRIEN. John Louis richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@yahoo.com> wrote: John, Do you play blindfold chess? If you do, could you send me an email? :) -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > Nowadays, finding out mate in 3 or 4 or even 5 is a childs play even when all the pieces are on the board. They know exactly what to look for and where to look etc ? > If you know all the basic end games in chess, it is a cat's walk!! > John Louis > > Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > > Take e.g. some curious problem "mate in 3 moves" with 20 pieces on > > the board. > > > Don´t you think a chess master would catch this position in less > > than, > > > say 20 seconds? > > > > What do you mean with "catch"? > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > I guess "notice" > > Tim > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2548. Re: Sunday Contest
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 05:55:04 -0000

I will compete with my father and two cousins. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Last weeks Sunday Contest was the biggest ever... With 46 > participants from 13 different countries. I'm encouraging everone to > participate and let's see how big this thing can get! > > Jon > http://www.nascarjon.us >
2549. >>>> Technology Park <<<<
From: "dextergoldmanit" <dextergoldmanit@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:45:23 -0000

Latest updates on Wireless technology, Telecommunication , Network Security, VOIP, Voice over IP, Telecomm glossary, Computer Technology, Web Hosting , Domain Registeration, Dedicated Server. Go to : http://updatestechpark.blogspot.com/ Good Luck
2550. Re: Natural memorisation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:04:29 -0000

Hello Ryan, That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and images in your head was something for people that can't memorise very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the information into a story with things that don't have anything to do with cubing? Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am I right?). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan >
2551. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:05:49 +0000 (GMT)

You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi-cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. John Louis Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hello Ryan, That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and images in your head was something for people that can't memorise very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the information into a story with things that don't have anything to do with cubing? Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am I right?). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2552. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 14:43:26 +0100

What is P/A/O technique? (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann). R ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi-cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. John Louis Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hello Ryan, That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and images in your head was something for people that can't memorise very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the information into a story with things that don't have anything to do with cubing? Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am I right?). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
2553. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:59:33 -0000

He means the Person/Action/Object technique, which he described in the BLD yahoo group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks- cube/message/985 - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > What is P/A/O technique? > (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann). > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation > > > You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. > First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. > I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. > > Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. > Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi- cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. > > John Louis > > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > Hello Ryan, > > That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been > trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed > to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and > images in your head was something for people that can't memorise > very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck > of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it > doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... > > So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the > information into a story with things that don't have anything to do > with cubing? > > Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action > and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising > things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been > storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing > things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing > images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for > the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's > why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am > I right?). > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have > to > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > domain > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > cards. > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking > at the > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > associations > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > observe > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > brains > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > constrained to > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random > cube > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve > the > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > musicians > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > more > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2554. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:16:10 +0100

Group not found. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joël van Noort" <joel_vn@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation He means the Person/Action/Object technique, which he described in the BLD yahoo group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks- cube/message/985 - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > What is P/A/O technique? > (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann). > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation > > > You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. > First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. > I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. > > Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. > Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi- cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. > > John Louis > > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > Hello Ryan, > > That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been > trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed > to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and > images in your head was something for people that can't memorise > very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck > of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it > doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... > > So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the > information into a story with things that don't have anything to do > with cubing? > > Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action > and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising > things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been > storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing > things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing > images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for > the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's > why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am > I right?). > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have > to > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > domain > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > cards. > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking > at the > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > associations > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > observe > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > brains > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > constrained to > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random > cube > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve > the > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > musicians > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > more > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links
2555. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 11:21:20 -0300 (ART)

http://tinyurl.com/frck6 Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> escreveu: Group not found. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joël van Noort" <joel_vn@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation He means the Person/Action/Object technique, which he described in the BLD yahoo group: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks- cube/message/985 - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > What is P/A/O technique? > (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann). > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation > > > You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. > First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. > I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. > > Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. > Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi- cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. > > John Louis > > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > Hello Ryan, > > That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been > trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed > to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and > images in your head was something for people that can't memorise > very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck > of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it > doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... > > So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the > information into a story with things that don't have anything to do > with cubing? > > Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action > and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising > things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been > storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing > things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing > images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for > the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's > why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am > I right?). > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have > to > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > domain > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > cards. > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking > at the > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > associations > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > observe > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > brains > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > constrained to > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random > cube > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve > the > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > musicians > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > more > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2556. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:02:10 -0000

Yea, Yahoo groups suck, I know. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Group not found. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joël van Noort" <joel_vn@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:59 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation > > > He means the Person/Action/Object technique, which he described in > the BLD yahoo group: > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/blindfoldsolving-rubiks- > cube/message/985 > > > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > What is P/A/O technique? > > (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann). > > R > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation > > > > > > You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify > one more point here. > > First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in > the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are > transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be > able to focus your attention when you are memorising without > transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. > > I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean > Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and > able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to > retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete > solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is > good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, > it will be faster than the rote memorising. > > > > Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you > can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't > think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be > faster than rote memory. > > Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi- > cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which > memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. > > > > John Louis > > > > > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@> wrote: > > Hello Ryan, > > > > That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been > > trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that > seemed > > to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and > > images in your head was something for people that can't memorise > > very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a > deck > > of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it > > doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... > > > > So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the > > information into a story with things that don't have anything to > do > > with cubing? > > > > Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action > > and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising > > things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have > been > > storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing > > things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing > > images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for > > the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's > > why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, > am > > I right?). > > > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and > have > > to > > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > > domain > > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > > cards. > > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by > looking > > at the > > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > > associations > > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > > observe > > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > > brains > > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > > constrained to > > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single > random > > cube > > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to > solve > > the > > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > > musicians > > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > > more > > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2557. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 16:24:17 +0100

Isn´t this (without transforming the information) the same as in BLD chess? You "see" the pieces in there places, you can analyse a forced combination e.g. six plies ahead, some pieces being touched in a certain way, the others untouched. A parallel to a six mover in BLD cubing? R ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi-cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. John Louis Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hello Ryan, That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and images in your head was something for people that can't memorise very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the information into a story with things that don't have anything to do with cubing? Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am I right?). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
2558. Re: Natural memorisation
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:15:47 -0000

Hey Ryan, I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you can still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of also using it for the 5x5x5. Storing all that information by rote for the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, and the stories I use aren't even as good as P/A/O so it could be even faster with a better method than what I use. Also, after learning more about the journey method and person/action/object, I think it would be considerably faster to use this method for a 3x3x3 rather than the current rote memorization techniques. I've already laid out my journey with 24 positions (I want to use it for 4x4 and 5x5 centers) and I'm working on the framework for the actual persons/actions/and objects right now. I plan on switching my memorization for all cubes to the P/A/O method, especially after seeing how fast the masters of this method can memorize things. Also, John Louis is a 4 level method P/A/O/O or person action object object? The reason I ask, one of the memorisers at the US competition describe one of his images as "Frank Sinatra Croons "Baby one more Time" to an Obelisk" and this appears to me to be P/A/O/O. Since the cube orbits only have 24 pieces it seems that a 4 level system or even a 5 level system (person/adverb/action/adjective/object, for example Bob Artistically Destroys the Red Car) Since the cube orbits are only 24 pieces instead of 52, why don't we make a more complicated system that fits our needs? With a 5 level system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in at best 3 images. That would be awesome! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan >
2559. Square1
From: "harveyjonathon" <harveyjonathon@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:17:22 -0000

Hey Cubers! Does anyone know how I might get a hold of a Square-1 puzzle? Are these still in production? My searching so far has come up with no encouraging results... so, I'm going to the authority on this one, the wider cubing community, any help would be appreciated ! Jon
2560. Re: Natural memorisation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 16:51:35 -0000

Yo Chris! Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O method... I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am doing. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey Ryan, > > I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you can > still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of also > using it for the 5x5x5. Storing all that information by rote for > the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, > and the stories I use aren't even as good as P/A/O so it could be > even faster with a better method than what I use. > > Also, after learning more about the journey method and > person/action/object, I think it would be considerably faster to use > this method for a 3x3x3 rather than the current rote memorization > techniques. I've already laid out my journey with 24 positions (I > want to use it for 4x4 and 5x5 centers) and I'm working on the > framework for the actual persons/actions/and objects right now. > > I plan on switching my memorization for all cubes to the P/A/O > method, especially after seeing how fast the masters of this method > can memorize things. > > Also, John Louis is a 4 level method P/A/O/O or person action object > object? The reason I ask, one of the memorisers at the US > competition describe one of his images as "Frank Sinatra > Croons "Baby one more Time" to an Obelisk" and this appears to me to > be P/A/O/O. Since the cube orbits only have 24 pieces it seems that > a 4 level system or even a 5 level system > (person/adverb/action/adjective/object, for example Bob Artistically > Destroys the Red Car) > > Since the cube orbits are only 24 pieces instead of 52, why don't we > make a more complicated system that fits our needs? With a 5 level > system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in at > best 3 images. That would be awesome! > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have > to > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > domain > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > cards. > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking > at the > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > associations > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > observe > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > brains > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > constrained to > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random > cube > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve > the > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > musicians > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > more > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > Ryan > > >
2561. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:56:09 -0300 (ART)

Hey Joël Which letters are you using? Hmm...maybe it's better to ask which letters you are not using...haha Pedro Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> escreveu: Yo Chris! Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O method... I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am doing. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey Ryan, > > I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you can > still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of also > using it for the 5x5x5. Storing all that information by rote for > the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, > and the stories I use aren't even as good as P/A/O so it could be > even faster with a better method than what I use. > > Also, after learning more about the journey method and > person/action/object, I think it would be considerably faster to use > this method for a 3x3x3 rather than the current rote memorization > techniques. I've already laid out my journey with 24 positions (I > want to use it for 4x4 and 5x5 centers) and I'm working on the > framework for the actual persons/actions/and objects right now. > > I plan on switching my memorization for all cubes to the P/A/O > method, especially after seeing how fast the masters of this method > can memorize things. > > Also, John Louis is a 4 level method P/A/O/O or person action object > object? The reason I ask, one of the memorisers at the US > competition describe one of his images as "Frank Sinatra > Croons "Baby one more Time" to an Obelisk" and this appears to me to > be P/A/O/O. Since the cube orbits only have 24 pieces it seems that > a 4 level system or even a 5 level system > (person/adverb/action/adjective/object, for example Bob Artistically > Destroys the Red Car) > > Since the cube orbits are only 24 pieces instead of 52, why don't we > make a more complicated system that fits our needs? With a 5 level > system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in at > best 3 images. That would be awesome! > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have > to > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > domain > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > cards. > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking > at the > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > associations > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > observe > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > brains > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > constrained to > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random > cube > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve > the > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > musicians > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > more > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > Ryan > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2562. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 17:02:32 -0000

Hey Pedro, I am not using X, Y, T and Q... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hey Joël > > Which letters are you using? Hmm...maybe it's better to ask which letters you are not using...haha > > Pedro > > Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> escreveu: > Yo Chris! > > Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O > method... > > I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 > objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time > on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can > really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for > that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images > and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am > doing. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hey Ryan, > > > > I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you > can > > still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of > also > > using it for the 5x5x5. Storing all that information by rote for > > the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, > > and the stories I use aren't even as good as P/A/O so it could be > > even faster with a better method than what I use. > > > > Also, after learning more about the journey method and > > person/action/object, I think it would be considerably faster to > use > > this method for a 3x3x3 rather than the current rote memorization > > techniques. I've already laid out my journey with 24 positions (I > > want to use it for 4x4 and 5x5 centers) and I'm working on the > > framework for the actual persons/actions/and objects right now. > > > > I plan on switching my memorization for all cubes to the P/A/O > > method, especially after seeing how fast the masters of this > method > > can memorize things. > > > > Also, John Louis is a 4 level method P/A/O/O or person action > object > > object? The reason I ask, one of the memorisers at the US > > competition describe one of his images as "Frank Sinatra > > Croons "Baby one more Time" to an Obelisk" and this appears to me > to > > be P/A/O/O. Since the cube orbits only have 24 pieces it seems > that > > a 4 level system or even a 5 level system > > (person/adverb/action/adjective/object, for example Bob > Artistically > > Destroys the Red Car) > > > > Since the cube orbits are only 24 pieces instead of 52, why don't > we > > make a more complicated system that fits our needs? With a 5 > level > > system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in > at > > best 3 images. That would be awesome! > > > > Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > > <rheise@> wrote: > > > > > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and > have > > to > > > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one > > domain > > > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > > > > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and > > cards. > > > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by > looking > > at the > > > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory > > associations > > > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and > > observe > > > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our > > brains > > > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > > > > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) > > constrained to > > > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single > random > > cube > > > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to > solve > > the > > > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that > > musicians > > > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take > > more > > > than a few seconds to memorise. > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2563. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 17:51:41 +0000 (GMT)

Yes Rune. I have not forgotten Stefan Poachmann. He is one of the greats.He is the pioneer of P/A/O method. I did not mention his name just because he is already using the system and very often explaining it to others. He is not using rote memory. That is why he(only one) solved Megaminx blindfolded, FOUR 3*3*3 cubes BLD. I don't think it is possible with rote memory. I am sorry, if it hurts you. John Louis Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@hem.utfors.se> wrote: What is P/A/O technique? (And maybe you shouldn´t forget mr Pochmann). R ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation You are perfectly correct Joel, in my opinion. I like to clarify one more point here. First of all, it is only a beginning. To focus your attention in the initial period of learning to memorise a cube you are transforming the information. With more practice, slowly you will be able to focus your attention when you are memorising without transforming the information. Only experience will tell you that. I think some of you like Leyan, Tyson, Macky, David Orser, Jean Pons and Chris Hardwick are all able to focus their attention and able to memorise without transforming and more importantly able to retain those ABSTRACT, INTANGIBLE information until they complete solving the cube. If you have already reached that stage, that is good. Still I strongly believe, once you master the P/A/O technique, it will be faster than the rote memorising. Secondly, By applying P/A/O method combined with a journey, you can memorise any number of cubes and solve them blindfolded. I don't think it is possible by rote memory or atleast P/A/O method will be faster than rote memory. Has anyone using rote memory to memorise the cube, tried multi-cubes blindfolded except David Orser ? I don't know which memorisation technique David used for his 10 cubes BLD. John Louis Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hello Ryan, That is very good important question! I while ago, I have been trying to memorise the corners of the cube visually, and that seemed to work fine... I always thought that making up big stories and images in your head was something for people that can't memorise very well. :). But now I found out that people that memorise a deck of cards in under a minute also use techniques like this, and it doesn't have to mean you are wasting time at all... So how can that work? Why is it interesting to transform the information into a story with things that don't have anything to do with cubing? Well, as for the method I am trying to learn now, (person, action and object method): when you are memorising, you are memorising things that the human brain is used to. All your life, you have been storing memories with people that you know well, that are doing things. That's just what your brain can automatically do. Storing images of people doing things in you head is more 'natural' ;) for the brain to deal with than a bunch of positions on a cube. That's why I think it will be feasable to use this system. (John Louis, am I right?). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > I've been reading the various threads about memorisation, and have to > wonder what is appealing about translating information from one domain > into a completely unrelated domain in order to memorise it. > > We have discussed memorising a cube using numbers, sentences and cards. > Why not memorise the direct visual imagery that we get by looking at the > cube? With training it should be possible to form memory associations > based on the spatial relativity of same-coloured facelets, and observe > shape outlines formed by these sets of facelets. This is how our brains > are natively wired to perform visual analysis, anyway. > > By the way, a sequence of 4 random chords (4 notes each) constrained to > a range of just 2 octaves, contains more data than a single random cube > position (if you only care about the data that allows you to solve the > cube). If you can see visual patterns to the same extent that musicians > hear auditory patterns, then a single random cube shouldn't take more > than a few seconds to memorise. > > Ryan > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2564. Re: Square1
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:33:44 -0000

I recall about a year ago there was discussion here about some online store in the US that had them pretty cheap, but I don't have the thread and didn't buy one and I think they had some issues with being slow to ship. But may be worth checking out to see if they still sell it. There's always eBay; I know you can find some there (sometimes they are part of a group of other puzzles). and there's this shop: http://hlavolamy.gumruch.cz/europe.php never bought from there before but someone here must have and can comment about them. I got mine at a local thrift shop for $0.50 and it's in great shape, but I suppose that was just dumb luck. good luck! --Kirk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "harveyjonathon" <harveyjonathon@...> wrote: > > Hey Cubers! > > Does anyone know how I might get a hold of a Square-1 puzzle? Are > these still in production? My searching so far has come up with no > encouraging results... so, I'm going to the authority on this one, the > wider cubing community, any help would be appreciated ! > > > Jon >
2565. Re: Natural memorisation
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:45:12 -0000

Hey Joël, I hope your words are going well! I have been thinking about mine for a while and finally finished today. I just used A-X because I want to be able to know which number I am at when I stop (I plan to use this for the 4x4 and 5x5 edges). Also I think I will use only the A-L for the 3x3 edges and M-T for the 3x3 corners. Or at least I'll try it and see how it works. I'm not sure what I'll use for the bigger cubes for the corners, probably the same I am using now I guess. Still unsure how to add all these together for a new approach to memorizing the 5x5x5 BLD. I haven't memorized my words yet, I just finished creating them. Now it's off to memorizing them and placing them onto my 4x4 edges in a way that I like. Hope your solving with your system goes well, keep us updated! I will try to do them same. Happy cubing! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Yo Chris! > > Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O > method... > > I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 > objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time > on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can > really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for > that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images > and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am > doing. > > - Joël.
2566. Re: Natural memorisation
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:46:19 -0000

> I just used A-X because I want to > be able to know which number I am at when I stop (I plan to use this > for the 4x4 and 5x5 edges). I just realized that the locations in my journey tell me this, ok nevermind, I'm still learning heh heh so I'm bound to make mistakes! Chris
2567. Re: Square1
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:10:52 -0000

I got mine at dealsafari.com, but once everyone started buying them, their service got bogged down so I'm not sure how good it is anymore. -Ben. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kirk83616 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I recall about a year ago there was discussion here about some online > store in the US that had them pretty cheap, but I don't have the > thread and didn't buy one and I think they had some issues with being > slow to ship. But may be worth checking out to see if they still sell > it. > > There's always eBay; I know you can find some there (sometimes they > are part of a group of other puzzles). > > and there's this shop: > http://hlavolamy.gumruch.cz/europe.php > > never bought from there before but someone here must have and can > comment about them. > > I got mine at a local thrift shop for $0.50 and it's in great shape, > but I suppose that was just dumb luck. > > good luck! > --Kirk > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "harveyjonathon" > <harveyjonathon@> wrote: > > > > Hey Cubers! > > > > Does anyone know how I might get a hold of a Square-1 puzzle? Are > > these still in production? My searching so far has come up with no > > encouraging results... so, I'm going to the authority on this one, > the > > wider cubing community, any help would be appreciated ! > > > > > > Jon > > >
2568. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:35:22 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > That is why he(only one) solved Megaminx blindfolded, FOUR 3*3*3 > cubes BLD. I don't think it is possible with rote memory. > > John Louis Oh I'm sure it's possible. It would just be much harder (at least for me, I think). Cheers! Stefan
2569. Re: Natural memorisation
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 20:38:25 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > With a 5 level > system you could memorize the edge permutation of a 4x4 or 5x5 in at > best 3 images. That would be awesome! 5 * 3 = 24 ? Cheers! Stefan
2570. Re: [Speed cubing group] Kind of Off topic
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:06:37 -0600

lol.... that was posted a LONG time ago. but yea, i agree. though i don't think it made me barf. the books were better. On 3/4/06, shamsul khawaja <shamsus2010@...> wrote: > i watched the movie and i made me barf... i read all the books so far0 and when u make a novel a movie... the movie sucks and makes the books look bad too > > Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: I watched it Thursday, opening night. I'm not a Harry Potter fan...but my > girlfriend is, so I had to go. The movie was my favorite of the series so > far. > > -Chris > > On 11/24/05, Parth Upadhyay <parth.upadhyay@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hey everyone. I know this is kind of off topic, but is neone here want to > > see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire?!?!?!?! > > the movie looks sooo good. Though im sure they cant capture the essence of > > the book in a movie, all the harry potters were made really well. > > > > ne hp fans!? > > > > -parth > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > SHAMSUL > > Khawaja > > > > --------------------------------- > Enrich your life at Yahoo! Canada Finance > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2571. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:37:07 +1100

On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 04:15:47PM -0000, cmhardw wrote: > Hey Ryan, > > I think doing something like this is alright for the 3x3x3, you can > still get some really fast times, but I would hate the idea of also > using it for the 5x5x5. Storing all that information by rote for > the 5x5x5 would take me twice as long as using the stories I use, To be clear, I'm not advocating "rote memorisation" either. That means memorising something using a process of repetition, without necessarily comprehending what is being memorised. This is also unappealing to me. What I am talking about is memorisation by analysis of the material in its native domain. With the amount of brain mass that is dedicated to visual processing, it is hard to believe that there isn't enough of it to break down the structure of a cube visually. Much less of our brain is dedicated to auditory processing, yet in one second, a human brain can identify and memorise the equivalent of more than half the information content of 1 cube, within an audio signal. Ryan
2572. Where is Bob Burton?
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: Lista Speed Cubing <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 00:20:04 -0300 (ART)

Anybody knows about him? He's been so quiet recently... Pedro --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2573. learning 5X5X5
From: "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 03:31:36 -0000

i got the 5x5x5 cube and it didnt come with an instructions book....:( anyone kno of a good site with lots of pretty java cube applets? thnx
2574. Re: Where is Bob Burton?
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:32:29 -0000

He's a busy man, with his wife and kids... can't always be posting on forums. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Anybody knows about him? He's been so quiet recently... > > Pedro > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2575. white diy cubes
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:50:01 -0000

I just got my white diy cube today and it's really sweet, except that I'm having a little difficulty with the color recognition. Does anyone else have that problem, or is it just something that takes time to get used to? -Ben.
2576. Re: learning 5X5X5
From: "harveyjonathon" <harveyjonathon@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:14:02 -0000

Hey Don't jump so quickly to an internet site! The beauty of these puzzles is in working them out yourself! I assume you can do the 3x3 right... so, see how many of those principles apply for the 5x5. If you can do the 4x4, even better, since the 5x5 is actually easier (if one regards the fixed centers as making the puzzle easier). Rather than jumping into a complete solution with 'pretty java cube applets', here are some hints: 1) Find out the most 'difficult' part of the solution, and do it first: if you think about this, you should see that the centers are most easily done first, and, lucky for you :) this is VERY intuitive. After solving the centers, you naturally ask yourself, 'what is the next most taxing/difficult' step. Surely it isn't the corners (which behave as those on the 3x3), so you are left with the 'edge cubies'. -What would be the most LOGICAL next step? IF you've thought about it, you'll see that if you can associate every three edge cubies into a single 'edge triplet', your cube will do something intriguing... It will behave as a 3x3! You have reduced the problem of solving the 5x5 to that of solving the 3x3! This is the method I'd recommend, as it works for all cubes n>3. In fact, for odd cubes there is only ONE important algorithm you need to workout (in addition to those on the 3x3), namely one which 'flips' (swaps) two edge cubies. I'd suggest you work this one out, since doing so will SHOW you why the position occurs, which is quite fascinating! Anyway, good luck! Jon > i got the 5x5x5 cube and it didnt come with an instructions book....: ( > anyone kno of a good site with lots of pretty java cube applets? thnx >
2577. Re: Natural memorisation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 07:47:43 -0000

Hi Chris, So far, I am doing well.. I didn't memorise a cube with my system yet, but I am getting used to the persons and other words... I do that with a cube in my hands, so I can think of a person (as an image in my head) immediately when I see a piece. I really try to push my imagination to work here... I really feel that using your imagination to create the images in my head will help here... To illustrate this, after I woke up, and was freshing up in front of the mirror, and I told myself three little 'stories' in my system (also using the 'journey' around the house I am planning to use), just to think of a few examples of scenes that could occur with my system... I wasn't planning on recalling it, but 5 minutes later, on the dinner table, I was perfectly able to recall the 3 scenes (would be 9 pieces of information) without a problem. I really had the feeling I was recalling stuff... And it worked. Today, I will try to get used to the system more, and also try to use it to solve a few cubes blindfolded... One thing I am realising now, is that if anyone wants to learn to solve a cube blindfolded fast, he's also getting into a new hobby: memorising. It's like a new sport! I got interested by people who use the phonetic system to read numbers as if they are sounds to remember numbers easily... I am also interested in learning that too :). Well g2g now.. Good luck Chris!! - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey Joël, > > I hope your words are going well! I have been thinking about mine for > a while and finally finished today. I just used A-X because I want to > be able to know which number I am at when I stop (I plan to use this > for the 4x4 and 5x5 edges). Also I think I will use only the A-L for > the 3x3 edges and M-T for the 3x3 corners. Or at least I'll try it > and see how it works. I'm not sure what I'll use for the bigger cubes > for the corners, probably the same I am using now I guess. Still > unsure how to add all these together for a new approach to memorizing > the 5x5x5 BLD. > > I haven't memorized my words yet, I just finished creating them. Now > it's off to memorizing them and placing them onto my 4x4 edges in a > way that I like. > > Hope your solving with your system goes well, keep us updated! I will > try to do them same. > > Happy cubing! > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Yo Chris! > > > > Nice that you are also trying to create words and images for a P/A/O > > method... > > > > I now finished a list with 22 * 3 words (22 names, 22 actions and 22 > > objects)!!! I am so happy with this.. I really spend a lot of time > > on it, because I wanted to have actions and objects that I can > > really make a visual image about.. And the list I have now works for > > that! I am going to train myself converting the cube into the images > > and backwards the next few days... I will let you know how I am > > doing. > > > > - Joël. >
2578. 2003 competitions
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 08:37:22 -0000

What were those Korean and French championships? Where are the results?
2579. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2003 competitions
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 09:55:32 +0100

2003? ----- Original Message ----- From: Anssi Vanhala To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] 2003 competitions What were those Korean and French championships? Where are the results? SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2580. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:51:33 +0100

What does "WHAT" mean? (In the 3x3x3 avg). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > > > That is why he(only one) solved Megaminx blindfolded, FOUR 3*3*3 > > cubes BLD. I don't think it is possible with rote memory. > > > > John Louis > > Oh I'm sure it's possible. It would just be much harder (at least for > me, I think). > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2581. Re: learning 5X5X5
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:54:46 -0000

How can you seriously first suggest he works it out himself (I completely agree) and then show him a method right here??? Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "harveyjonathon" <harveyjonathon@...> wrote: > > Hey > > Don't jump so quickly to an internet site! The beauty of these puzzles > is in working them out yourself! I assume you can do the 3x3 right.. . > so, see how many of those principles apply for the 5x5. If you can do > the 4x4, even better, since the 5x5 is actually easier (if one regards > the fixed centers as making the puzzle easier). > > Rather than jumping into a complete solution with 'pretty java cube > applets', here are some hints: > > 1) Find out the most 'difficult' part of the solution, and do it first: > if you think about this, you should see that the centers are most > easily done first, and, lucky for you :) this is VERY intuitive. > > After solving the centers, you naturally ask yourself, 'what is the > next most taxing/difficult' step. Surely it isn't the corners (which > behave as those on the 3x3), so you are left with the 'edge cubies'. > > -What would be the most LOGICAL next step? IF you've thought about it, > you'll see that if you can associate every three edge cubies into a > single 'edge triplet', your cube will do something intriguing... It > will behave as a 3x3! You have reduced the problem of solving the 5x5 > to that of solving the 3x3! This is the method I'd recommend, as it > works for all cubes n>3. In fact, for odd cubes there is only ONE > important algorithm you need to workout (in addition to those on the > 3x3), namely one which 'flips' (swaps) two edge cubies. I'd suggest > you work this one out, since doing so will SHOW you why the position > occurs, which is quite fascinating! > > Anyway, good luck! > > Jon > > > > i got the 5x5x5 cube and it didnt come with an instructions book.. ..: > ( > > anyone kno of a good site with lots of pretty java cube applets? thnx > > >
2582. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:59:54 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > What does "WHAT" mean? (In the 3x3x3 avg). It's a shocked, surprised "WHAT?!?" that I said to myself when I saw my result (I only write down my times during the average and let my computer do the stats *afterwards*). Btw, I'm actually more shocked about the 17.61 avg100 than the 15.77 avg10... Cheers! Stefan
2583. Re: Where is Bob Burton?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:02:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Anybody knows about him? He's been so quiet recently... > > Pedro I've also wondered... sent him an email a week or two ago when I noticed he hadn't posted for a month. But no reply yet. If anyone is in contact with him, please just make him say 'hi' or whatever... he's making me worried a bit... Stefan
2584. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Where is Bob Burton?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 04:07:07 -0800

He's alive and will. I'll expect $10,000 USD in non-sequential unmarked two dollar bills by the end of this week, or else... the beard is getting shaved. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:02 AM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> > wrote: >> >> Anybody knows about him? He's been so quiet recently... >> >> Pedro > > I've also wondered... sent him an email a week or two ago when I > noticed he hadn't posted for a month. But no reply yet. If anyone is > in contact with him, please just make him say 'hi' or whatever... he's > making me worried a bit... > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2585. Re: 2003 competitions
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:16:12 -0000

Speedcubing.com news archives. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > 2003? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anssi Vanhala > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:37 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] 2003 competitions > > > What were those Korean and French championships? Where are the results? > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2586. Re: white diy cubes
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 12:39:09 -0000

There's an adjustment you have to make mentally, but I find that I can make the switch without affecting my times. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > I just got my white diy cube today and it's really sweet, except that > I'm having a little difficulty with the color recognition. > > Does anyone else have that problem, or is it just something that takes > time to get used to? > > -Ben. >
2587. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: learning 5X5X5
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 05:20:26 -0800 (PST)

I am brain dead. I cannot do this without a solution guide becuase wiithout it my brain dies on me... but thnx for the method ill try to intuitivly figure it out... Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: How can you seriously first suggest he works it out himself (I completely agree) and then show him a method right here??? Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "harveyjonathon" <harveyjonathon@...> wrote: > > Hey > > Don't jump so quickly to an internet site! The beauty of these puzzles > is in working them out yourself! I assume you can do the 3x3 right.. . > so, see how many of those principles apply for the 5x5. If you can do > the 4x4, even better, since the 5x5 is actually easier (if one regards > the fixed centers as making the puzzle easier). > > Rather than jumping into a complete solution with 'pretty java cube > applets', here are some hints: > > 1) Find out the most 'difficult' part of the solution, and do it first: > if you think about this, you should see that the centers are most > easily done first, and, lucky for you :) this is VERY intuitive. > > After solving the centers, you naturally ask yourself, 'what is the > next most taxing/difficult' step. Surely it isn't the corners (which > behave as those on the 3x3), so you are left with the 'edge cubies'. > > -What would be the most LOGICAL next step? IF you've thought about it, > you'll see that if you can associate every three edge cubies into a > single 'edge triplet', your cube will do something intriguing... It > will behave as a 3x3! You have reduced the problem of solving the 5x5 > to that of solving the 3x3! This is the method I'd recommend, as it > works for all cubes n>3. In fact, for odd cubes there is only ONE > important algorithm you need to workout (in addition to those on the > 3x3), namely one which 'flips' (swaps) two edge cubies. I'd suggest > you work this one out, since doing so will SHOW you why the position > occurs, which is quite fascinating! > > Anyway, good luck! > > Jon > > > > i got the 5x5x5 cube and it didnt come with an instructions book.. ..: > ( > > anyone kno of a good site with lots of pretty java cube applets? thnx > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2588. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2003 competitions
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 14:35:07 +0100

Hi Anssi, Those competitions were both unofficial. The Stackmat timer was first used during WC2003. Here are some parts of a report on the French championship 2003: " The organizers were "Winning moves", they are the only ones to sell Rubik's cubes in France. Their goal was not to organize an OFFICIAL championship, but it was to reveal come talented cubists, and send the best of them to Toronto. " " The first five cubists in this championships were from the french group (!!!!) (Nicolas/ J-B / Thomas Templier / Frederic Badie (and me)). J-B was the last of us with an average time of 58 seconds, all the other cubists (about 15) were above the minute, and AMAZED when they saw the first 30-40 seconds time. " See attachment for a picture of the group. Adam Géhin won with a best time of 15 seconds. The times were measured with a stopwatch. I posted a short item on the Korean championship 2003, including the results and a video. Check out http://www.speedcubing.com/events/unofficial Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Anssi Vanhala To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2003 competitions Speedcubing.com news archives. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > 2003? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anssi Vanhala > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 9:37 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] 2003 competitions > > > What were those Korean and French championships? Where are the results? > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2589. Re: Where is Bob Burton?
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:48:45 -0000

I talked to Bob a week or two or maybe more ago, and hes still alive, but hes busy with school, and he says his interest in cubing isn't as strong as it was before...:( I'll tell him you are all looking for him... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@> > wrote: > > > > Anybody knows about him? He's been so quiet recently... > > > > Pedro > > I've also wondered... sent him an email a week or two ago when I > noticed he hadn't posted for a month. But no reply yet. If anyone is > in contact with him, please just make him say 'hi' or whatever... he's > making me worried a bit... > > Stefan >
2590. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:49:26 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: >I only write down my times during the average and let my > computer do the stats *afterwards*). > > Cheers! > Stefan Is it so that you don't get nervous if you have a great rolling average coming? I've noticed that I'm not even close to as nervous when I write down the times, as when I put them into JNetCube after each solve and am able to see my session average. /Gunnar
2591. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:08:11 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > >I only write down my times during the average and let my > > computer do the stats *afterwards*). > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > Is it so that you don't get nervous if you have a great rolling > average coming? I've noticed that I'm not even close to as nervous > when I write down the times, as when I put them into JNetCube after > each solve and am able to see my session average. > > /Gunnar No, that's not the intention. I just prefer to store all times in text files and then run a program that I wrote to do the stats. This lets me keep all data and if I improve the program I just delete the stats files and run it again and it will compute the improved stats for all data again. I also like to include some comments sometimes and now I always include the scramble as well. For example I take the Sunday Contest scrambles and copy them into an editor: R U D' ... L F' L2 D U' F ... B R2 F R2 F R' ... L F2 U' Then I solve and add the times and comments if I want to, e.g.: =16.97 R U D' ... L F' L2 =12.34 D U' F ... B R2 F (PLL=U') =23.45 R2 F R' ... L F2 U' (I suck) Cheers! Stefan
2592. 2006 pop rules
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:14:48 -0000

Under the new pop rules, does it count as a puzzle defect if a center cap of a 3x3x3 comes off during a solve? The puzzle can still be completed normally when this happens, but does it count? Or do you have to retrieve the cap and snap it back in place for the solve to count? In other words, should I glue my caps prior to competition if there is even a remote chance of them coming off during an attempt? Chris
2593. Re: 2006 pop rules
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:18:27 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Under the new pop rules, does it count as a puzzle defect if a center > cap of a 3x3x3 comes off during a solve? The puzzle can still be > completed normally when this happens, but does it count? Or do you > have to retrieve the cap and snap it back in place for the solve to > count? > > In other words, should I glue my caps prior to competition if there is > even a remote chance of them coming off during an attempt? > > Chris 5b5) If after the solve a non functional part of the puzzle is still defect (like a center cap of a cube) or not fully rotated (like a 5x5x5 center piece twisted in its spot), but the puzzle is otherwise unambiguously solved, the puzzle is considered solved, under discretion of the main judge. Cheers! Stefan
2594. Re: 2006 pop rules
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:20:42 -0000

Okay so I'm going to answer my own question: WCA Article 5b5: "If after the solve a non functional part of the puzzle is still defect (like a center cap of a cube) or not fully rotated (like a 5x5x5 center piece twisted in its spot), but the puzzle is otherwise unambiguously solved, the puzzle is considered solved, under discretion of the main judge." So I guess it's not a big deal, and I don't have to glue the caps. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Under the new pop rules, does it count as a puzzle defect if a center > cap of a 3x3x3 comes off during a solve? The puzzle can still be > completed normally when this happens, but does it count? Or do you > have to retrieve the cap and snap it back in place for the solve to > count? > > In other words, should I glue my caps prior to competition if there is > even a remote chance of them coming off during an attempt? > > Chris >
2595. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Where is Bob Burton?
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:15:32 -0600

he updated his facebook photo.... not that it really matters much On 3/5/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > I talked to Bob a week or two or maybe more ago, and hes still alive, > but hes busy with school, and he says his interest in cubing isn't as > strong as it was before...:( I'll tell him you are all looking for him... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Anybody knows about him? He's been so quiet recently... > > > > > > Pedro > > > > I've also wondered... sent him an email a week or two ago when I > > noticed he hadn't posted for a month. But no reply yet. If anyone is > > in contact with him, please just make him say 'hi' or whatever... he's > > making me worried a bit... > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2596. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: white diy cubes
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:32:02 +0100

At the beginning it's a bit strange, but you'll get used to it ;-) Gilles. 2006/3/5, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>: > There's an adjustment you have to make mentally, but I find that I > can make the switch without affecting my times. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > > > I just got my white diy cube today and it's really sweet, except > that > > I'm having a little difficulty with the color recognition. > > > > Does anyone else have that problem, or is it just something that > takes > > time to get used to? > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2597. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:35:07 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > >I only write down my times during the average and let my > > > computer do the stats *afterwards*). > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > > Is it so that you don't get nervous if you have a great rolling > > average coming? I've noticed that I'm not even close to as nervous > > when I write down the times, as when I put them into JNetCube after > > each solve and am able to see my session average. > > > > /Gunnar > > No, that's not the intention. I just prefer to store all times in text > files and then run a program that I wrote to do the stats. This lets > me keep all data and if I improve the program I just delete the stats > files and run it again and it will compute the improved stats for all > data again. I also like to include some comments sometimes and now I > always include the scramble as well. For example I take the Sunday > Contest scrambles and copy them into an editor: > > R U D' ... L F' L2 > D U' F ... B R2 F > R2 F R' ... L F2 U' > > Then I solve and add the times and comments if I want to, e.g.: > > =16.97 R U D' ... L F' L2 > =12.34 D U' F ... B R2 F (PLL=U') > =23.45 R2 F R' ... L F2 U' (I suck) > > Cheers! > Stefan > Hi Stefan! Great idea to write a program that do the stats. I think I'm gonna do such a program myself. /Gunnar
2598. Ugly average
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 11:16:10 -0800

I woke up this morning and took an average...this was the most inconstant average of my life. After about 15 solves I was pretty consistent, but these first 12 were all over the place. Does this happen to anyone else when they first start cubing at the beginning of the day? Average: 19.13 seconds Individual Times: 22.39, 16.99, 16.35, 20.78, 18.54, (30.30), 19.12, (14.25), 17.61, 17.53, 18.00, 24.00
2599. [Speed cubing group] Re: white diy cubes
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:33:45 -0000

I guess it is just a matter of adjusting to it. I managed to get my second best average ever with it this morning. -Ben --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > At the beginning it's a bit strange, but you'll get used to it ;-) > > Gilles. > > 2006/3/5, christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>: > > There's an adjustment you have to make mentally, but I find that I > > can make the switch without affecting my times. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > > <grsbmd@> wrote: > > > > > > I just got my white diy cube today and it's really sweet, except > > that > > > I'm having a little difficulty with the color recognition. > > > > > > Does anyone else have that problem, or is it just something that > > takes > > > time to get used to? > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2600. TurkZeka 2006/1 Puzzle Competition
From: "yilmazekici2002" <bilgi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:49:41 -0000

TurkZeka 2006/1 Puzzle Competition has started today (4 March 2006). New puzzles will be posted bi weekly on Saturday at 22:00:00 GMT (Greenwich Mean Time). More Details: http://www.turkzeka.com/zeka/comp05/q/comp0511.asp Good luck... http://www.turkzeka.com
2601. Re: [Speed cubing group] Square1
From: eric hatch <washyourmonkey@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 13:02:30 -0800 (PST)

if you really want one check ebay but there is no telling how much you'll pay for it. i think i got mine for like 10 dollars but i got lucky. harveyjonathon <harveyjonathon@...> wrote: Hey Cubers! Does anyone know how I might get a hold of a Square-1 puzzle? Are these still in production? My searching so far has come up with no encouraging results... so, I'm going to the authority on this one, the wider cubing community, any help would be appreciated ! Jon SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2602. Speedcube
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 00:56:13 -0000

My 3x3 cube wont stop popping. I am going to buy a new speedcube any suggestions about what cube I should buy and where I can get it? Thanks
2603. Re: [Speed cubing group] Ugly average
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:18:09 -0600

usually when i start solving, my first avg consists of times from 17-32 seconds. :-/ On 3/5/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: > I woke up this morning and took an average...this was the most > inconstant average of my life. After about 15 solves I was pretty > consistent, but these first 12 were all over the place. Does this > happen to anyone else when they first start cubing at the beginning of > the day? > > Average: 19.13 seconds > Individual Times: 22.39, 16.99, 16.35, 20.78, 18.54, (30.30), 19.12, > (14.25), 17.61, 17.53, 18.00, 24.00 > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2604. Re: [Speed cubing group] Speedcube
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 19:26:32 -0600

white DIY cube from rubiks.com apparently they're good? though im pretty happy with my 25th anniversary one. On 3/5/06, bballkid2076 <bballkid2076@yahoo.com> wrote: > My 3x3 cube wont stop popping. I am going to buy a new speedcube any > suggestions about what cube I should buy and where I can get it? > > Thanks > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2605. Us championships
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 02:26:32 -0000

Does anyone have any info on when and where the US championships will be. Also does anyone know if there will be a Horace Mann Tourney? Thanks
2606. Re: [Speed cubing group] Us championships
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 18:28:43 -0800

I'm still working on Vegas, and Caltech is the backup. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 5, 2006, at 6:26 PM, bballkid2076 wrote: > Does anyone have any info on when and where the US championships will > be. Also does anyone know if there will be a Horace Mann Tourney? > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2607. Re: [Speed cubing group] Speedcube
From: "tehguardians" <tehguardians@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 04:31:40 -0000

i found the white diy's to be extremely annoying. theyre non arched centers so it continuously pops. i'd suggest a black diy however, i believe they are already all sold out after what seemed like a lifetime for them to be back in stock. -ryan
2608. my podcast interview
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 00:59:01 -0800

http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2609. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:06:48 -0800 (PST)

How many hours did it take you to teach Will Smith to solve the cube on his own without asking for help? What was his fastest time? --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2610. [Speed cubing group] Re: Natural memorisation
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:11:19 -0000

That doesn't help me whatsoever.... I got all jittery and screwed up so badly for several averages. The most exciting one was when I did 5 solves all sub 14 (several 11's and 12's too)... then boom, everything goes down the hill. I just insert them into MS Excel and then use the average function. Darren --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > >I only write down my times during the average and let my > > computer do the stats *afterwards*). > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > Is it so that you don't get nervous if you have a great rolling > average coming? I've noticed that I'm not even close to as nervous > when I write down the times, as when I put them into JNetCube after > each solve and am able to see my session average. > > /Gunnar >
2611. Re: [Speed cubing group] Speedcube
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 12:14:22 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "tehguardians" <tehguardians@...> wrote: > > i found the white diy's to be extremely annoying. theyre non arched > centers They don't have arched centers? Are you saying everybody else is lying and faking pictures? Stefan
2612. Re: [Speed cubing group] Speedcube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 12:21:16 -0000

As of the beginning of this year, the white ones have arched centers. Last year they didn't. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "tehguardians" <tehguardians@...> wrote: > > i found the white diy's to be extremely annoying. theyre non arched > centers so it continuously pops. i'd suggest a black diy however, i > believe they are already all sold out after what seemed like a > lifetime for them to be back in stock. > > -ryan >
2613. dream ?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 12:31:45 -0000

Last night I dreamed about a Rubik's competition. It was huge, a big area full of cubers, I estimate 2000-3000. Was it just a dream or a look into the future? Cupstackers were already close to 1000 last year: http://tinyurl.com/oa5q7 Cheers! Stefan
2614. Re: [Speed cubing group] dream ?
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 14:32:08 +0100

Yes, but look at the competition list! In the event 3-3-3 e.g. there were 150 participants, one from UK, one from Australia, two from Germany and 146(!) from USA. Apparently, no world sport (yet). Btw, a German won this class. Congrats! R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] dream ? > Last night I dreamed about a Rubik's competition. It was huge, a big > area full of cubers, I estimate 2000-3000. Was it just a dream or a > look into the future? Cupstackers were already close to 1000 last > year: > http://tinyurl.com/oa5q7 > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2615. Re: [Speed cubing group] dream ?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:13:05 -0000

Yeah... after reading that text I think it's not even an American sport but more like a Colorado sport. Besides the one German kid they mention 8 others, *all* from Colorado. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Yes, but look at the competition list! In the event 3-3-3 e.g. there were 150 participants, one from UK, one from Australia, two from Germany and 146(!) from USA. Apparently, no world sport (yet). Btw, a German won this class. Congrats! > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:31 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] dream ? > > > > Last night I dreamed about a Rubik's competition. It was huge, a big > > area full of cubers, I estimate 2000-3000. Was it just a dream or a > > look into the future? Cupstackers were already close to 1000 last > > year: > > http://tinyurl.com/oa5q7 > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2616. Re: [Speed cubing group] dream ?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 16:32:31 -0000

It seems that the reason why they attract more people is because cupstacking doesn't require any significant memorizing or learning, like solving the cube does. It's more about pure dexterity. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Yeah... after reading that text I think it's not even an American > sport but more like a Colorado sport. Besides the one German kid they > mention 8 others, *all* from Colorado. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2617. arched centers?
From: "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:40:55 -0000

ive seen many people saying stuff about arched centers and stuff, can anyone tell me hte advantage of having a cube with arched centers? thnx
2618. DIY cube
From: ary_2155 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:07:04 -0000

got it a couple of days ago and by far teh best cube ive ever had!!!!
2619. Re: [Speed cubing group] dream ?
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:18:29 -0000

Yes :-) I think we see some of the same in the cubing community. Those who like the magic are also keen on cupstacking. Both are about dexterity :-) Have fun! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > It seems that the reason why they attract more people is because > cupstacking doesn't require any significant memorizing or learning, > like solving the cube does. It's more about pure dexterity. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > Yeah... after reading that text I think it's not even an American > > sport but more like a Colorado sport. Besides the one German kid > they > > mention 8 others, *all* from Colorado. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
2620. Re: arched centers?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:54:46 -0000

With arched centers, the track in which each face rotates is perfectly circular. With flat centers, the track is more octagonal. The octagonal tracks have less friction but the tension is somewhat uneven, and the edge pieces can "pop" out of the cube during speedsolving. The arched centers tend to hold the pieces in better, but will also catch more often if adjacent faces are not well-aligned. It totally depends on your cubing style. I never used to pop with flat centers, so I preferred them. Now I've changed my style and I pop them all the time, so I switched to arched centers and I never pop. Once you improve your turning accuracy, the arched centers are generally the preferred cube to use. One other note is that the arched centers are somewhat quieter. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > ive seen many people saying stuff about arched centers and stuff, can > anyone tell me hte advantage of having a cube with arched centers? thnx >
2621. Yoyo
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:58:24 -0000

Just found some interesting videos pertaining to other "hobby- oriented" communities (in this case, one that also deals with a lot of eye-hand coordination)... with this I'd like to show you a really cool yoyo video: http://www.wimp.com/yoyotricks/
2622. Draughon's Eastern competition; April 22nd, 2006
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:17:12 -0000

Hi all, The final schedule is up. The following events will be carried out at the competition: *3x3 Speed *3x3 One-handed *3x3 BLD *4x4 Speed *4x4 BLD *5x5 Speed Full Details of the competition can be found at the following link: http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/EasternSpring2006.txt I also have a registration form available. If you are interested in coming please fill it out. If you are a 'maybe' or 'probable' for the competition, feel free to fill it out also. (Just note your status on the form) http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/registration.txt I hope to hear from a lot of you! Happy Cubing :) -Richard Patterson richy_jr_2000@...
2623. Most Influential Cuber
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:31:59 -0000

I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have fun! http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html -Richard Patterson richy_jr_2000@...
2624. Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "harrierfalcon" <harrierfalcon@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:07:58 -0000

I have only started cubing recently and have taken a great liking to it; however, the only solution I have memorized is Blake O'Hares at nerdparadise.com I like the way Blake presented the algorithoms, with little cubes because I still can't "speak" all that "R' F G'" junk. This solution only has you memorize around 12 algorithoms, but takes forever. My average time is around 1:15-1:25. I'm looking for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest algorithoms to memorize. Any suggestions? PLEASE don't tell me the Fridich system becauese my friend is trying to memorize it, and I think he's nuts because there are "60+" algorithoms to memorize.
2625. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 02:30:40 -0000

It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to teach him the very basics. He had some trouble remembering the last layer algorithms. His fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able to understand the concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart dude. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will Smith to > solve the cube on his own without asking for help? > What was his fastest time? > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2626. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 03:00:06 -0000

Ok, well... I averaged about low 30s with the following method: Cross, insert FL corners, not caring about orientation, and either learn the 11 or w/e algs for F2L with corner inserted...then: 17 basic LL algs for 4LLL(everytime) (some on the next page too) http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/24999 http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/25002 With practice this can become fast, and then you can just get intuitive for the last of F2L and eliminate a few of the steps. I now average around 24 seconds and I know all except 4 PLLs and a handful of OLLs, and full F2L...its all what you want to take the time to learn... Craig P.S. - I started doing BLD yesterday, and I've come SOOOOO close SOOOO many times...Stefan: YOU ROCK!!! Ur method is soooo easy :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "harrierfalcon" <harrierfalcon@...> wrote: > > I have only started cubing recently and have taken a great liking to > it; however, the only solution I have memorized is Blake O'Hares at > nerdparadise.com I like the way Blake presented the algorithoms, > with little cubes because I still can't "speak" all that "R' F G'" > junk. This solution only has you memorize around 12 algorithoms, > but takes forever. My average time is around 1:15-1:25. I'm looking > for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest algorithoms to > memorize. Any suggestions? PLEASE don't tell me the Fridich system > becauese my friend is trying to memorize it, and I think he's nuts > because there are "60+" algorithoms to memorize. >
2627. Re: [Speed cubing group] Draughon's Eastern competition; April 22nd, 2006
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:10:27 -0600

See attached file, fucker. My status would be probably leaning towards definitely. -Mike On 3/6/06, richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > The final schedule is up. The following events will be carried out at > the competition: > > *3x3 Speed > *3x3 One-handed > *3x3 BLD > *4x4 Speed > *4x4 BLD > *5x5 Speed > > Full Details of the competition can be found at the following link: > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/EasternSpring2006.txt > > I also have a registration form available. If you are interested in > coming please fill it out. If you are a 'maybe' or 'probable' for the > competition, feel free to fill it out also. (Just note your status on > the form) > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/registration.txt > > I hope to hear from a lot of you! Happy Cubing :) > > -Richard Patterson > richy_jr_2000@... ---------- Draughons Eastern Competition, Spring 2005 April 22nd, 2006 (Saturday) (PRE)REGISTRATION FORM NAME: STATE: EMAIL: DATE: ====================================================== CHECK ALL THE EVENTS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN. INCLUDE YOUR APPROXIMATE TIMES AS WELL. THIS IS USED TO BEST ACCOMODATE THE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. EVENTS: APPROX. TIMES [X] 3x3 Speed [ ~20 ] [X] 3x3 One-Handed [ ~60 ] [ ] 3x3 Blindfolded [ ] [X] 4x4 Speed [ ~95-100 ] [ ] 4x4 Blindfolded [ ] [ ] 5x5 Speed [ ] ====================================================== ** After filling out this form in notepad, please email it to me in .txt format. [richy_jr_2000@...] ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2628. Re: [Speed cubing group] Draughon's Eastern competition; April 22nd, 2006
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:13:29 -0600

Fuck. Ignore that last one, as I sent the wrong version of the file. Here's the real one. -Mike P.S. I will help scramble as necessary, even for big cubes. P.P.S. If you would be willing to house me, I would be much more inclined to make it. On 3/6/06, Mike Bennett <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > See attached file, fucker. My status would be probably leaning towards > definitely. > > -Mike > > > On 3/6/06, richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The final schedule is up. The following events will be carried out at > > the competition: > > > > *3x3 Speed > > *3x3 One-handed > > *3x3 BLD > > *4x4 Speed > > *4x4 BLD > > *5x5 Speed > > > > Full Details of the competition can be found at the following link: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/EasternSpring2006.txt > > > > I also have a registration form available. If you are interested in > > coming please fill it out. If you are a 'maybe' or 'probable' for the > > competition, feel free to fill it out also. (Just note your status on > > the form) > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/registration.txt > > > > I hope to hear from a lot of you! Happy Cubing :) > > > > -Richard Patterson > > richy_jr_2000@... > > > > ---------- Draughons Eastern Competition, Spring 2005 April 22nd, 2006 (Saturday) (PRE)REGISTRATION FORM NAME: Mike Bennett STATE: Iowa EMAIL: mikeisadumbname@... DATE: March 6th, 2006 ====================================================== CHECK ALL THE EVENTS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN. INCLUDE YOUR APPROXIMATE TIMES AS WELL. THIS IS USED TO BEST ACCOMODATE THE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. EVENTS: APPROX. TIMES [X] 3x3 Speed [ ~20 ] [X] 3x3 One-Handed [ ~60 ] [ ] 3x3 Blindfolded [ ] [X] 4x4 Speed [ ~95-100 ] [ ] 4x4 Blindfolded [ ] [ ] 5x5 Speed [ ] ====================================================== ** After filling out this form in notepad, please email it to me in .txt format. [richy_jr_2000@...] ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2629. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 10:41:26 -0000

Hi 1. learn the language. It's not that hard. 2. if you insist: use my favelet, that's even easier http://vanderblonk.com/cube/favelet/index.htm Then you won't be bothered with algorithm junk 3. Or, use my applet page if you'r handier with urls http://vanderblonk.com/cube/cubeapplet.asp e.g. http://vanderblonk.com/cube/cubeapplet.asp?alg=(ME)4 good luck Michiel --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "harrierfalcon" <harrierfalcon@...> wrote: > > I have only started cubing recently and have taken a great liking to > it; however, the only solution I have memorized is Blake O'Hares at > nerdparadise.com I like the way Blake presented the algorithoms, > with little cubes because I still can't "speak" all that "R' F G'" > junk. This solution only has you memorize around 12 algorithoms, > but takes forever. My average time is around 1:15-1:25. I'm looking > for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest algorithoms to > memorize. Any suggestions? PLEASE don't tell me the Fridich system > becauese my friend is trying to memorize it, and I think he's nuts > because there are "60+" algorithoms to memorize. >
2630. FAQ
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:02:08 -0000

I added an FAQ database to the db section. Please all help to - enlighten newbies who keep asking questions about 1. how to solve the cube 2. how to use the forum 3. how to get faster 4. how to get as good as that guy from Letterman - shamelessly plug your website That way, when a newbie asks one of these questions we can just direct them to the FAQ. Michiel
2631. Re: FAQ
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:35:28 -0000

This is a great idea, we just need to fill it... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I added an FAQ database to the db section. Please all help to > > - enlighten newbies who keep asking questions about > 1. how to solve the cube > 2. how to use the forum > 3. how to get faster > 4. how to get as good as that guy from Letterman > - shamelessly plug your website > > That way, when a newbie asks one of these questions we can just direct > them to the FAQ. > > Michiel >
2632. Megaminx Last Layer
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 17:12:54 -0000

Hi, I'm new to megaminx, my best time yet is 6:22.12, my biggest problem is the last layer. I'm mostly at around 5 min. when I have to solve last layer, using avg. more than 1:30 for last layer is very much... I use: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' things), Permutate Edges, Orient Corners (with B R'B'R things), permutate Corners. I want to: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' things), Orient Corners (Sune Like things), Permutate Edges, Permutate Corners. The problem is that I don't know how to do the Permutation part, I know it can be done by commutators, but I'm not good at them and most commutators are too long. Where can I get the Permutation algs? Erik Akkersdijk
2633. Re: [Speed cubing group] Draughon's Eastern competition; April 22nd, 2006
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:19:15 +0100

Waw, good luck to the guys who are going to solve the 4x4 Blindfolded at 7:40 AM :D Looks like a nice competition ;-) Gilles. 2006/3/7, Mike Bennett <mikeisadumbname@...>: > Fuck. Ignore that last one, as I sent the wrong version of the file. > Here's the real one. > > -Mike > > P.S. I will help scramble as necessary, even for big cubes. > P.P.S. If you would be willing to house me, I would be much more inclined > to make it. > > On 3/6/06, Mike Bennett <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > > > See attached file, fucker. My status would be probably leaning towards > > definitely. > > > > -Mike > > > > > > On 3/6/06, richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > The final schedule is up. The following events will be carried out at > > > the competition: > > > > > > *3x3 Speed > > > *3x3 One-handed > > > *3x3 BLD > > > *4x4 Speed > > > *4x4 BLD > > > *5x5 Speed > > > > > > Full Details of the competition can be found at the following link: > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/EasternSpring2006.txt > > > > > > I also have a registration form available. If you are interested in > > > coming please fill it out. If you are a 'maybe' or 'probable' for the > > > competition, feel free to fill it out also. (Just note your status on > > > the form) > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/registration.txt > > > > > > I hope to hear from a lot of you! Happy Cubing :) > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@... > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > Draughons Eastern Competition, Spring 2005 > April 22nd, 2006 (Saturday) > > > (PRE)REGISTRATION FORM > > > NAME: Mike Bennett > > STATE: Iowa > > EMAIL: mikeisadumbname@... > > DATE: March 6th, 2006 > > ====================================================== > > CHECK ALL THE EVENTS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN. INCLUDE > YOUR APPROXIMATE TIMES AS WELL. THIS IS USED TO BEST > ACCOMODATE THE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. > > EVENTS: APPROX. TIMES > > [X] 3x3 Speed [ ~20 ] > [X] 3x3 One-Handed [ ~60 ] > [ ] 3x3 Blindfolded [ ] > [X] 4x4 Speed [ ~95-100 ] > [ ] 4x4 Blindfolded [ ] > [ ] 5x5 Speed [ ] > > ====================================================== > > ** After filling out this form in notepad, please email > it to me in .txt format. [richy_jr_2000@...] ** > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2634. Re: Megaminx Last Layer
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:42:10 -0000

Hi Erik, This is exactly the method I currently use... Do you have problems with permuting the corners, or just permuting the edges without destroying other things (like corner orientation)? Well.. I guess we should meet on MSN. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I'm new to megaminx, my best time yet is 6:22.12, my biggest problem > is the last layer. I'm mostly at around 5 min. when I have to solve > last layer, using avg. more than 1:30 for last layer is very much... I > use: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' things), Permutate Edges, Orient Corners > (with > B R'B'R things), permutate Corners. I want to: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' > things), Orient Corners (Sune Like things), Permutate Edges, Permutate > Corners. The problem is that I don't know how to do the Permutation > part, I know it can be done by commutators, but I'm not good at them > and most commutators are too long. Where can I get the Permutation algs? > > Erik Akkersdijk >
2635. Re: [Speed cubing group] Draughon's Eastern competition; April 22nd, 2006
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:59:32 -0000

Mike, You'll notice on the bottom of the form it says to *email* the completed form to me. You didn't complete the form or email it to me. Please follow directions :) -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > See attached file, fucker. My status would be probably leaning towards > definitely. > > -Mike > > On 3/6/06, richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The final schedule is up. The following events will be carried out at > > the competition: > > > > *3x3 Speed > > *3x3 One-handed > > *3x3 BLD > > *4x4 Speed > > *4x4 BLD > > *5x5 Speed > > > > Full Details of the competition can be found at the following link: > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/EasternSpring2006.txt > > > > I also have a registration form available. If you are interested in > > coming please fill it out. If you are a 'maybe' or 'probable' for the > > competition, feel free to fill it out also. (Just note your status on > > the form) > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/registration.txt > > > > I hope to hear from a lot of you! Happy Cubing :) > > > > -Richard Patterson > > richy_jr_2000@... > > ---------- > > Draughons Eastern Competition, Spring 2005 > April 22nd, 2006 (Saturday) > > > (PRE)REGISTRATION FORM > > > NAME: > > STATE: > > EMAIL: > > DATE: > > ====================================================== > > CHECK ALL THE EVENTS YOU ARE INTERESTED IN. INCLUDE > YOUR APPROXIMATE TIMES AS WELL. THIS IS USED TO BEST > ACCOMODATE THE SCHEDULE. THANK YOU. > > EVENTS: APPROX. TIMES > > [X] 3x3 Speed [ ~20 ] > [X] 3x3 One-Handed [ ~60 ] > [ ] 3x3 Blindfolded [ ] > [X] 4x4 Speed [ ~95-100 ] > [ ] 4x4 Blindfolded [ ] > [ ] 5x5 Speed [ ] > > ====================================================== > > ** After filling out this form in notepad, please email > it to me in .txt format. [richy_jr_2000@...] ** > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2636. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:33:39 -0800 (PST)

Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn it couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for the fresh prince but to do it after you've just learned it in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not dumb but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went down. --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to teach > him the very > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > layer algorithms. His > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able to > understand the > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart dude. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@...> > wrote: > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will Smith > to > > solve the cube on his own without asking for help? > > What was his fastest time? > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > to run. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2637. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 00:28:27 -0000

Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. I learned very quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only hints, and could solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I had plenty of time as a schoolkid on summer vacation. Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like having a top trainer, isn't it? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn it > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for the > fresh prince but to do it after you've just learned it > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not dumb > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went > down. > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to teach > > him the very > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > > layer algorithms. His > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able to > > understand the > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart dude. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > <thunderpants16@> > > wrote: > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will Smith > > to > > > solve the cube on his own without asking for help? > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > to run. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2638. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:02:44 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: >Didn't WIll Smith get accepted into MIT? I heard this somewhere and was wondering if its true? > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. I learned very > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only hints, and could > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I had plenty of time > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like having a top > trainer, isn't it? > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn it > > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for the > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just learned it > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not dumb > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went > > down. > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to teach > > > him the very > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > > > layer algorithms. His > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able to > > > understand the > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart dude. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will Smith > > > to > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking for help? > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > > to run. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
2639. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:07:55 -0000

I recall some interviews where he said he was indeed accepted (offered a scholarship), but turned it down to pursue acting. He's always liked math/science-related things. I don't think it's unrealistic to learn how to solve the cube in a day's tutoring. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > >Didn't WIll Smith get accepted into MIT? I heard this somewhere and > was wondering if its true? > > > > > > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. I learned very > > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only hints, and could > > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I had plenty of time > > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like having a top > > trainer, isn't it? > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn it > > > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for the > > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just learned it > > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not dumb > > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went > > > down. > > > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to teach > > > > him the very > > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > > > > layer algorithms. His > > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able to > > > > understand the > > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart dude. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, DT > > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will Smith > > > > to > > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking for help? > > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >
2640. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:09:26 -0800 (PST)

Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not you. Do you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a rapper. If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you think you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer like Usher? --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. > I learned very > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only > hints, and could > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I > had plenty of time > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like > having a top > trainer, isn't it? > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn > it > > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for > the > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just > learned it > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not > dumb > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went > > down. > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > teach > > > him the very > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > > > layer algorithms. His > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able > to > > > understand the > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > dude. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > DT > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will > Smith > > > to > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking for > help? > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just > love > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > to run. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2641. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 01:31:34 -0000

Did you not read the other posts??? A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know him??? Not many cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson (at least thats what the officials say) But i don't think he is... Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl names... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not you. Do > you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > rapper. > If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you think > you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer like > Usher? > > --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: > > > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. > > I learned very > > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only > > hints, and could > > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I > > had plenty of time > > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like > > having a top > > trainer, isn't it? > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn > > it > > > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for > > the > > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just > > learned it > > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not > > dumb > > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went > > > down. > > > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > > teach > > > > him the very > > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > > > > layer algorithms. His > > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able > > to > > > > understand the > > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > > dude. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > DT > > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will > > Smith > > > > to > > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking for > > help? > > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just > > love > > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > to run. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2642. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 17:59:20 -0800

Say whatever you want, but I know that Will Smith could solve the cube in 2 minutes flat while talking trash about you. He certainly did that while beating down the arrogant extras who thought they were hot stuff. Some people are just naturally talented at things. Some people pick up things better than others. Some people struggle very hard at certain things. It's how the world works. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 7, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > Did you not read the other posts??? > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know him??? Not many > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson (at least thats what > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl names... > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> > wrote: >> >> Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not you. Do >> you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a >> rapper. >> If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you think >> you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer like >> Usher? >> >> --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. >>> I learned very >>> quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only >>> hints, and could >>> solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I >>> had plenty of time >>> as a schoolkid on summer vacation. >>> >>> Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like >>> having a top >>> trainer, isn't it? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT >>> <thunderpants16@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn >>> it >>>> couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for >>> the >>>> fresh prince but to do it after you've just >>> learned it >>>> in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not >>> dumb >>>> but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was >>>> curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. >>>> Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went >>>> down. >>>> >>>> --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to >>> teach >>>>> him the very >>>>> basics. He had some trouble remembering the last >>>>> layer algorithms. His >>>>> fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able >>> to >>>>> understand the >>>>> concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart >>> dude. >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, >>> DT >>>>> <thunderpants16@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How many hours did it take you to teach Will >>> Smith >>>>> to >>>>>> solve the cube on his own without asking for >>> help? >>>>>> What was his fastest time? >>>>>> >>>>>> --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tyson Mao >>>>>>> Astrophysics '06 >>>>>>> California Institute of Technology >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just >>> love >>>>> to run. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>>>> protection around >>>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just love >>> to run. >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> Do You Yahoo!? >>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >>> protection around >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2643. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:37:34 -0000

I thought both Tyson and Toby taught him (that's what the podcast said). As for my own geekiness... I do own a slide rule-- does that count? :) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Did you not read the other posts??? > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know him??? Not many > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson (at least thats what > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl names... > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@> > wrote: > > > > Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not you. Do > > you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > > rapper. > > If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you think > > you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer like > > Usher? > > > > --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or two. > > > I learned very > > > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my only > > > hints, and could > > > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, I > > > had plenty of time > > > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > > > > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda like > > > having a top > > > trainer, isn't it? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > > <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to learn > > > it > > > > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch for > > > the > > > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just > > > learned it > > > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is not > > > dumb > > > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really went > > > > down. > > > > > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > > > teach > > > > > him the very > > > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the last > > > > > layer algorithms. His > > > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was able > > > to > > > > > understand the > > > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > > > dude. > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > DT > > > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach Will > > > Smith > > > > > to > > > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking for > > > help? > > > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just > > > love > > > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > > > protection around > > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > > to run. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
2644. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:41:09 -0800 (PST)

a) Hey I heard Tyson's voice on the podcast from his link c) Who said geek was a bad thing, esp when it's used so commonly on these grounds. geez take it ez officer. --- Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > Did you not read the other posts??? > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know > him??? Not many > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson (at > least thats what > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl > names... > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@...> > wrote: > > > > Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not you. > Do > > you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > > rapper. > > If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you > think > > you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer like > > Usher? > > > > --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or > two. > > > I learned very > > > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my > only > > > hints, and could > > > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, > I > > > had plenty of time > > > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > > > > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda > like > > > having a top > > > trainer, isn't it? > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > DT > > > <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to > learn > > > it > > > > couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch > for > > > the > > > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just > > > learned it > > > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is > not > > > dumb > > > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I > was > > > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a > month. > > > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really > went > > > > down. > > > > > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > > > teach > > > > > him the very > > > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering the > last > > > > > layer algorithms. His > > > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was > able > > > to > > > > > understand the > > > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a > smart > > > dude. > > > > > > > > > > --- In > speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > DT > > > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach > Will > > > Smith > > > > > to > > > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking > for > > > help? > > > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they > just > > > love > > > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam > > > > > protection around > > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just > love > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > to run. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2645. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:47:28 -0800 (PST)

No shit man. And it's good to know you knew that I did not use geek as an insult but as a comparison from a background point of view. Wow there some really high strung ppl around here. --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I thought both Tyson and Toby taught him (that's > what the podcast > said). As for my own geekiness... I do own a slide > rule-- does that > count? > > :) > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@...> wrote: > > > > Did you not read the other posts??? > > > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know > him??? Not many > > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson > (at least thats > what > > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl > names... > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not > you. Do > > > you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > > > rapper. > > > If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you > think > > > you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer > like > > > Usher? > > > > > > --- christopher_pelley > <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Not if the lessons were separated by a day or > two. > > > > I learned very > > > > quickly with only a crude set of notes as my > only > > > > hints, and could > > > > solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. > Granted, I > > > > had plenty of time > > > > as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > > > > > > > Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's > kinda like > > > > having a top > > > > trainer, isn't it? > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > DT > > > > <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to > learn > > > > it > > > > > couple lessons whatever even that is a > stretch for > > > > the > > > > > fresh prince but to do it after you've just > > > > learned it > > > > > in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is > not > > > > dumb > > > > > but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I > was > > > > > curious is Im the same age as Will + - a > month. > > > > > Guess I'll have to ask him myself what > really went > > > > > down. > > > > > > > > > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total > to > > > > teach > > > > > > him the very > > > > > > basics. He had some trouble remembering > the last > > > > > > layer algorithms. His > > > > > > fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He > was able > > > > to > > > > > > understand the > > > > > > concept of the cube very quickly. He's a > smart > > > > dude. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > > DT > > > > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How many hours did it take you to teach > Will > > > > Smith > > > > > > to > > > > > > > solve the cube on his own without asking > for > > > > help? > > > > > > > What was his fastest time? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they > just > > > > love > > > > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam > > > > > > protection around > > > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just > love > > > > to run. > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam > > > > protection around > > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > to run. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2646. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:53:51 -0800 (PST)

2 mins I believe it, anyone can after couple days or a week with practice. The part I did not fully accept was he did it on the same day or next day after he was trained. But if he did hey the boy is talented in many ways. --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > Say whatever you want, but I know that Will Smith > could solve the cube > in 2 minutes flat while talking trash about you. He > certainly did that > while beating down the arrogant extras who thought > they were hot stuff. > > Some people are just naturally talented at things. > Some people pick up > things better than others. Some people struggle > very hard at certain > things. It's how the world works. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 7, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > Did you not read the other posts??? > > > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know > him??? Not many > > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson > (at least thats what > > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl > names... > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not > you. Do > >> you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > >> rapper. > >> If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you > think > >> you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer > like > >> Usher? > >> > >> --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Not if the lessons were separated by a day or > two. > >>> I learned very > >>> quickly with only a crude set of notes as my > only > >>> hints, and could > >>> solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, > I > >>> had plenty of time > >>> as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > >>> > >>> Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda > like > >>> having a top > >>> trainer, isn't it? > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > DT > >>> <thunderpants16@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to > learn > >>> it > >>>> couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch > for > >>> the > >>>> fresh prince but to do it after you've just > >>> learned it > >>>> in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is > not > >>> dumb > >>>> but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > >>>> curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > >>>> Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really > went > >>>> down. > >>>> > >>>> --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > >>> teach > >>>>> him the very > >>>>> basics. He had some trouble remembering the > last > >>>>> layer algorithms. His > >>>>> fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was > able > >>> to > >>>>> understand the > >>>>> concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > >>> dude. > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > >>> DT > >>>>> <thunderpants16@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How many hours did it take you to teach Will > >>> Smith > >>>>> to > >>>>>> solve the cube on his own without asking for > >>> help? > >>>>>> What was his fastest time? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tyson Mao > >>>>>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>>>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > >>> love > >>>>> to run. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>>>> protection around > >>>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > love > >>> to run. > >>>> > >>>> > __________________________________________________ > >>>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>> protection around > >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > to run. > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2647. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:00:36 -0600

hmm... i taught my friend f2l in 15 minutes. he could solve f2l in 2 minutes after that the same day. it's not unheard of. On 3/7/06, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > 2 mins I believe it, anyone can after couple days or a > week with practice. The part I did not fully accept > was he did it on the same day or next day after he was > trained. > But if he did hey the boy is talented in many ways. > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > > Say whatever you want, but I know that Will Smith > > could solve the cube > > in 2 minutes flat while talking trash about you. He > > certainly did that > > while beating down the arrogant extras who thought > > they were hot stuff. > > > > Some people are just naturally talented at things. > > Some people pick up > > things better than others. Some people struggle > > very hard at certain > > things. It's how the world works. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Mar 7, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > > > Did you not read the other posts??? > > > > > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > > > > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > > > > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know > > him??? Not many > > > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson > > (at least thats what > > > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > > > > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl > > names... > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > <thunderpants16@...> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not > > you. Do > > >> you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > > >> rapper. > > >> If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you > > think > > >> you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer > > like > > >> Usher? > > >> > > >> --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Not if the lessons were separated by a day or > > two. > > >>> I learned very > > >>> quickly with only a crude set of notes as my > > only > > >>> hints, and could > > >>> solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, > > I > > >>> had plenty of time > > >>> as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > >>> > > >>> Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda > > like > > >>> having a top > > >>> trainer, isn't it? > > >>> > > >>> Chris > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > DT > > >>> <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to > > learn > > >>> it > > >>>> couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch > > for > > >>> the > > >>>> fresh prince but to do it after you've just > > >>> learned it > > >>>> in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is > > not > > >>> dumb > > >>>> but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > >>>> curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > >>>> Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really > > went > > >>>> down. > > >>>> > > >>>> --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > > >>> teach > > >>>>> him the very > > >>>>> basics. He had some trouble remembering the > > last > > >>>>> layer algorithms. His > > >>>>> fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was > > able > > >>> to > > >>>>> understand the > > >>>>> concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > > >>> dude. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > >>> DT > > >>>>> <thunderpants16@> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> How many hours did it take you to teach Will > > >>> Smith > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>> solve the cube on his own without asking for > > >>> help? > > >>>>>> What was his fastest time? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Tyson Mao > > >>>>>>> Astrophysics '06 > > >>>>>>> California Institute of Technology > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > > >>> love > > >>>>> to run. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> > > __________________________________________________ > > >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? > > >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > >>>>> protection around > > >>>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > > love > > >>> to run. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > __________________________________________________ > > >>>> Do You Yahoo!? > > >>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > >>> protection around > > >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > to run. > > >> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2648. Re: [Speed cubing group] Draughon's Eastern competition; April 22nd, 2006
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:01:17 -0600

Crap. Did I reply that one to the group? It was a long night... -Mike On 3/7/06, richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > Mike, > > You'll notice on the bottom of the form it says to *email* the > completed form to me. You didn't complete the form or email it to me. > Please follow directions :) > > -Richard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2649. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 03:04:26 -0000

Yep. I taught my girlfriend the cube a long time ago -- a "vanilla- layer method" I think it's called for beginning solvers. Took her maybe 25 minutes to fully catch on and be able to solve it consistently. Smart cookie, she is :D --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > hmm... > > i taught my friend f2l in 15 minutes. he could solve f2l in 2 minutes > after that the same day. > > it's not unheard of. > > On 3/7/06, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > 2 mins I believe it, anyone can after couple days or a > > week with practice. The part I did not fully accept > > was he did it on the same day or next day after he was > > trained. > > But if he did hey the boy is talented in many ways. > > > > > > --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > > > > Say whatever you want, but I know that Will Smith > > > could solve the cube > > > in 2 minutes flat while talking trash about you. He > > > certainly did that > > > while beating down the arrogant extras who thought > > > they were hot stuff. > > > > > > Some people are just naturally talented at things. > > > Some people pick up > > > things better than others. Some people struggle > > > very hard at certain > > > things. It's how the world works. > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Mar 7, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > > > > > Did you not read the other posts??? > > > > > > > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > > > > > > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > > > > > > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know > > > him??? Not many > > > > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson > > > (at least thats what > > > > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > > > > > > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl > > > names... > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > > > <thunderpants16@> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not > > > you. Do > > > >> you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > > > >> rapper. > > > >> If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you > > > think > > > >> you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer > > > like > > > >> Usher? > > > >> > > > >> --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Not if the lessons were separated by a day or > > > two. > > > >>> I learned very > > > >>> quickly with only a crude set of notes as my > > > only > > > >>> hints, and could > > > >>> solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, > > > I > > > >>> had plenty of time > > > >>> as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > > > >>> > > > >>> Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda > > > like > > > >>> having a top > > > >>> trainer, isn't it? > > > >>> > > > >>> Chris > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > DT > > > >>> <thunderpants16@> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to > > > learn > > > >>> it > > > >>>> couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch > > > for > > > >>> the > > > >>>> fresh prince but to do it after you've just > > > >>> learned it > > > >>>> in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is > > > not > > > >>> dumb > > > >>>> but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > > > >>>> curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > > > >>>> Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really > > > went > > > >>>> down. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > > > >>> teach > > > >>>>> him the very > > > >>>>> basics. He had some trouble remembering the > > > last > > > >>>>> layer algorithms. His > > > >>>>> fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was > > > able > > > >>> to > > > >>>>> understand the > > > >>>>> concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > > > >>> dude. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > >>> DT > > > >>>>> <thunderpants16@> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> How many hours did it take you to teach Will > > > >>> Smith > > > >>>>> to > > > >>>>>> solve the cube on his own without asking for > > > >>> help? > > > >>>>>> What was his fastest time? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Tyson Mao > > > >>>>>>> Astrophysics '06 > > > >>>>>>> California Institute of Technology > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > > > >>> love > > > >>>>> to run. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>> > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? > > > >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > >>>>> protection around > > > >>>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > > > love > > > >>> to run. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >>>> Do You Yahoo!? > > > >>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > >>> protection around > > > >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > > > to run. > > > >> > > > >> > > > __________________________________________________ > > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid >
2650. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:07:46 -0600

My girlfriend learned to solve the complete cube in under 90 minutes. After a day of practice, she could solve it under 2 minutes. After two weeks, she was under 1 minute. -Mike On 3/7/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Yep. I taught my girlfriend the cube a long time ago -- a "vanilla- > layer method" I think it's called for beginning solvers. Took her > maybe 25 minutes to fully catch on and be able to solve it > consistently. Smart cookie, she is :D [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2651. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:16:30 -0800 (PST)

Dear Lord, Please forgive me for I have sinned and trespassed against the ways of the cube community for I have not known of my crime. --- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > Say whatever you want, but I know that Will Smith > could solve the cube > in 2 minutes flat while talking trash about you. He > certainly did that > while beating down the arrogant extras who thought > they were hot stuff. > > Some people are just naturally talented at things. > Some people pick up > things better than others. Some people struggle > very hard at certain > things. It's how the world works. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 7, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > Did you not read the other posts??? > > > > A) Toby taught Will, not Tyson > > > > B) Will got accepted to MIT, so hes not stupid... > > > > C) Why are you calling Chris a geek??? do you know > him??? Not many > > cubers are full on geeks, except of course Tyson > (at least thats what > > the officials say) But i don't think he is... > > > > Read posts, before posting, and don't call ppl > names... > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT > <thunderpants16@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> Now-now, we were talking about Will Smith not > you. Do > >> you think that's a fair comparsion? a geek and a > >> rapper. > >> If Will taught you how to rap or dance, do you > think > >> you learn it as fast as another rapper/dancer > like > >> Usher? > >> > >> --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Not if the lessons were separated by a day or > two. > >>> I learned very > >>> quickly with only a crude set of notes as my > only > >>> hints, and could > >>> solve in 3 minutes in almost no time. Granted, > I > >>> had plenty of time > >>> as a schoolkid on summer vacation. > >>> > >>> Plus, he had Tyson as a teacher... that's kinda > like > >>> having a top > >>> trainer, isn't it? > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > DT > >>> <thunderpants16@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sorry no way Im not buying this one. Ok to > learn > >>> it > >>>> couple lessons whatever even that is a stretch > for > >>> the > >>>> fresh prince but to do it after you've just > >>> learned it > >>>> in 2-3 min is tall fish tale. I know Will is > not > >>> dumb > >>>> but I find it hard to believe. Reason why I was > >>>> curious is Im the same age as Will + - a month. > >>>> Guess I'll have to ask him myself what really > went > >>>> down. > >>>> > >>>> --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> It took me about 2 lessons, 3 hours total to > >>> teach > >>>>> him the very > >>>>> basics. He had some trouble remembering the > last > >>>>> layer algorithms. His > >>>>> fastest time was around 2-3 Minutes. He was > able > >>> to > >>>>> understand the > >>>>> concept of the cube very quickly. He's a smart > >>> dude. > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > >>> DT > >>>>> <thunderpants16@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How many hours did it take you to teach Will > >>> Smith > >>>>> to > >>>>>> solve the cube on his own without asking for > >>> help? > >>>>>> What was his fastest time? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> http://www.justmyshow.com/Current_Show.html > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tyson Mao > >>>>>>> Astrophysics '06 > >>>>>>> California Institute of Technology > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > >>> love > >>>>> to run. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>>>>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>>>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>>>> protection around > >>>>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Winners forget they're in a race, they just > love > >>> to run. > >>>> > >>>> > __________________________________________________ > >>>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > >>> protection around > >>>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> Winners forget they're in a race, they just love > to run. > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2652. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:05:24 -0800

Here's how I remember it. Toby and I taught him on day 1. On the second day, Toby couldn't make it, so it was only me. Both days for an hour or so. At the end he could solve the whole cube, with help of some notes. I never made it back after that, but I think I heard that a while later he needed a little final refresher on the last layer. And after that he was rock solid. I presume because he practiced by himself. I've taught a lot of people to cube, and very few learn faster than Will. And if you think about it, the job of an actor is in large part to memorize a lot of dialog and other skills, so it's not all that unexpected that he'd be good at it.. /Lars On Mar 7, 2006, at 18:37, christopher_pelley wrote: > I thought both Tyson and Toby taught him (that's what the podcast > said). As for my own geekiness... I do own a slide rule-- does that > count? > > :) > > Chris
2653. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 04:14:39 -0000

Hey thunderpants? Who are you? When did I say that he solved it 2-3 mins on the same day? I didn't. Honestly, don't start a flame war until you've read all the posts throughly. Either that or work on your reading comprehension. I taught him, i should know how fast he solves.
2654. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:55:20 -0800 (PST)

Ok fair enough. But should you know that according to Lars he spent the 2nd day with Will which you did not mention in your original post which made it seem like Will learned it one day after you trained him. Did you forget that or was not aware of it. --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > Hey thunderpants? Who are you? When did I say that > he solved > it 2-3 mins on the same day? I didn't. Honestly, > don't start a flame > war until you've read all the posts throughly. > Either that or work on > your reading comprehension. I taught him, i should > know how fast he > solves. > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2655. M1005B and new DIY
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 11:51:50 -0000

Well I finally got curious enough to take apart one of my "M1005B" cubes from Restoration Hardware. (I had never taken it apart because it turned so smoothly out of the box). As I suspected, they use the same parts that are included in the new 2006 DIY kits (but presumably with rivets, not screws). Basically this means they have the new corner caps (with gap) which results in even turning on all three internal faces of each corner. I've seen at least one M1005B cube in Hasbro packaging as well, so the new parts are beginning to make their way into retail. I applaud Seven Towns for their continuous improvement of the cube mechanism these past couple years. Chris
2656. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:37:12 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > fun! > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > -Richard Patterson > richy_jr_2000@... > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have.
2657. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:46:11 -0800

Can you consider him a cuber? I know he invented the thing, but did he actually solve? That's also like asking the question 'Who is the most influential author that you have read?' and then saying that it must be the inventor of the printing press because without him there would be no books! :) -Chris On 3/8/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> > wrote: > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > fun! > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > -Richard Patterson > > richy_jr_2000@... > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2658. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 20:47:01 -0000

I'd have to find it but I remember reading somewhere that his first cube was made of wood and took him a month to solve. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > Can you consider him a cuber? I know he invented the thing, but did he > actually solve? > > That's also like asking the question 'Who is the most influential > author that you have read?' and then saying that it must be the > inventor of the printing press because without him there would be no > books! :) > > -Chris > > On 3/8/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2659. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:36:55 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > Can you consider him a cuber? I know he invented the thing, but did he > actually solve? > He could/can solve. > That's also like asking the question 'Who is the most influential > author that you have read?' and then saying that it must be the > inventor of the printing press because without him there would be no > books! :) > > -Chris > There were books before the printing press. > On 3/8/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2660. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:53:08 -0600

yea, he could solve it. he did a corner's first method. and it was made out of wood. only reason i know it is because i did a research project on it two years ago. but... he never was a speedcuber...:-/ On 3/8/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > > > Can you consider him a cuber? I know he invented the thing, but did he > > actually solve? > > > > He could/can solve. > > > That's also like asking the question 'Who is the most influential > > author that you have read?' and then saying that it must be the > > inventor of the printing press because without him there would be no > > books! :) > > > > -Chris > > > > There were books before the printing press. > > > On 3/8/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2661. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 23:59:04 -0000

Hi :-) If the question is the most influential cuber i would vote Stefan Pochmann. Because he is into so many different puzzles and he is so good at them. And he has contributed lots with new methods and so on. If it's more a matter of the most influential person in the cubing community i would vote for Ron. All his dedicated work. If it weren't for him we would never hav gotten this far. Lots of competitions and so on :-) About Macky. What is his contributions apart from being able to solve fast? Not much that i know ... But of course he is an amazing cuber. Im not gonna take that away ... :-) Have fun guys! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > Can you consider him a cuber? I know he invented the thing, but did he > actually solve? > > That's also like asking the question 'Who is the most influential > author that you have read?' and then saying that it must be the > inventor of the printing press because without him there would be no > books! :) > > -Chris > > On 3/8/06, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2662. Re: [Speed cubing group] my podcast interview
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 03:02:21 -0000

Of course I was aware. He spent 2 hours with me, and around 1 hour with Lars. What's your point? 3 hours total. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > Ok fair enough. But should you know that according to > Lars he spent the 2nd day with Will which you did not > mention in your original post which made it seem like > Will learned it one day after you trained him. Did you > forget that or was not aware of it. > > --- goodxy2002 <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > > > Hey thunderpants? Who are you? When did I say that > > he solved > > it 2-3 mins on the same day? I didn't. Honestly, > > don't start a flame > > war until you've read all the posts throughly. > > Either that or work on > > your reading comprehension. I taught him, i should > > know how fast he > > solves. > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2663. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:26:53 -0000

I'm puzzled as to why Tyson's name did not make it on the list. He was the first to organize a competition after 2003, and I would say that Caltech Winter 2004 set the standard for all local competitions as we know today. Without someone like him, we may have had to wait till 2009 for the next competition! I can say with confidence that I would have been _nothing_ without his tremendous efforts in organizing the Caltech competitions. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hi :-) > > If the question is the most influential cuber i would vote Stefan > Pochmann. Because he is into so many different puzzles and he is so > good at them. And he has contributed lots with new methods and so > on. If it's more a matter of the most influential person in the > cubing community i would vote for Ron. All his dedicated work. If it > weren't for him we would never hav gotten this far. Lots of > competitions and so on :-) > > About Macky. What is his contributions apart from being able to > solve fast? Not much that i know ... But of course he is an amazing > cuber. Im not gonna take that away ... :-) > > Have fun guys! > > -Per >
2664. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 05:35:44 -0000

Hi Per, > About Macky. What is his contributions apart from being able to > solve fast? Not much that i know ... But of course he is an amazing > cuber. Im not gonna take that away ... :-) > > Have fun guys! > > -Per You're right, not much. One thought I amuse myself with is that I took part in filling California with lots of blindfold cubers. =) Macky
2665. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 23:55:44 -0600

yea, why isn't tyson's name there? the cube definitely wouldn't be as big as it is without him. though i guess for me, chris hardwick is most influential. after all, i didn't even know speedcubing was a sport till i saw his video. On 3/8/06, mackymakisumi <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > Hi Per, > > > About Macky. What is his contributions apart from being able to > > solve fast? Not much that i know ... But of course he is an amazing > > cuber. Im not gonna take that away ... :-) > > > > Have fun guys! > > > > -Per > > You're right, not much. One thought I amuse myself with is that I took > part in filling California with lots of blindfold cubers. =) > > Macky > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2666. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:14:20 -0000

For me, Chris Hardwick and Dan Knights. Dan Knight's speedcubing video was the first Rubik's Cube video I ever saw and it amazed me... I used his site to learn quite a bit. Chris has also given a lot of great tips and tricks over time and I can definitely say these two have done a lot in my eyes. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > yea, why isn't tyson's name there? the cube definitely wouldn't be as > big as it is without him. > > though i guess for me, chris hardwick is most influential. after all, > i didn't even know speedcubing was a sport till i saw his video. > > On 3/8/06, mackymakisumi <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > Hi Per, > > > > > About Macky. What is his contributions apart from being able to > > > solve fast? Not much that i know ... But of course he is an amazing > > > cuber. Im not gonna take that away ... :-) > > > > > > Have fun guys! > > > > > > -Per > > > > You're right, not much. One thought I amuse myself with is that I took > > part in filling California with lots of blindfold cubers. =) > > > > Macky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid >
2667. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 09:52:23 +0100

Why such a poll? The only result is that 25% will find the nomination correct, 75% wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> > wrote: > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > fun! > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > -Richard Patterson > > richy_jr_2000@... > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2668. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Megaminx Last Layer
From: "Peter Douthwright" <pdouthwright0513@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 05:47:30 -0500

Where can I find the best solution to slove the megaminx? Can anyone help? ----- Original Message ----- From: Joël van Noort To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Megaminx Last Layer Hi Erik, This is exactly the method I currently use... Do you have problems with permuting the corners, or just permuting the edges without destroying other things (like corner orientation)? Well.. I guess we should meet on MSN. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I'm new to megaminx, my best time yet is 6:22.12, my biggest problem > is the last layer. I'm mostly at around 5 min. when I have to solve > last layer, using avg. more than 1:30 for last layer is very much... I > use: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' things), Permutate Edges, Orient Corners > (with > B R'B'R things), permutate Corners. I want to: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' > things), Orient Corners (Sune Like things), Permutate Edges, Permutate > Corners. The problem is that I don't know how to do the Permutation > part, I know it can be done by commutators, but I'm not good at them > and most commutators are too long. Where can I get the Permutation algs? > > Erik Akkersdijk > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2669. [Speed cubing group] Re: Megaminx Last Layer
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:04:27 -0000

Hey Peter, Long time no hear!!! You can solve almost the whole thing as a 3x3. http://www.grant.tregay.net/cube/solutions/megaminx/index.html Grant Tregay's site has some good stuff for the LL. Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Douthwright" <pdouthwright0513@...> wrote: > > Where can I find the best solution to slove the megaminx? Can anyone help? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joël van Noort > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:42 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Megaminx Last Layer > > > Hi Erik, > > This is exactly the method I currently use... Do you have problems > with permuting the corners, or just permuting the edges without > destroying other things (like corner orientation)? > > Well.. I guess we should meet on MSN. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" > <megafrikkie@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm new to megaminx, my best time yet is 6:22.12, my biggest > problem > > is the last layer. I'm mostly at around 5 min. when I have to solve > > last layer, using avg. more than 1:30 for last layer is very > much... I > > use: Orient Edges (FURU'R'F' things), Permutate Edges, Orient > Corners > > (with > > B R'B'R things), permutate Corners. I want to: Orient Edges > (FURU'R'F' > > things), Orient Corners (Sune Like things), Permutate Edges, > Permutate > > Corners. The problem is that I don't know how to do the Permutation > > part, I know it can be done by commutators, but I'm not good at > them > > and most commutators are too long. Where can I get the Permutation > algs? > > > > Erik Akkersdijk > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2670. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:18:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > yea, he could solve it. he did a corner's first method. and it was > made out of wood. > > only reason i know it is because i did a research project on it two years ago. > > but... he never was a speedcuber...:-/ What do you mean? Rubik was the fastest cuber on the planet for a while ! Cheers! Stefan
2671. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 14:49:43 -0000

Ha ha! True. And the reason he used corners-first, is because he actually built a 2x2x2 prototype first. So apparently that one was solved first. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > What do you mean? > Rubik was the fastest cuber on the planet for a while ! > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2672. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:01:42 +0100

There are some different definitions of a speedcuber, but I don´t think any of them would classify Rubik as such one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" > <cubekid@...> wrote: > > > > yea, he could solve it. he did a corner's first method. and it was > > made out of wood. > > > > only reason i know it is because i did a research project on it two > years ago. > > > > but... he never was a speedcuber...:-/ > > > What do you mean? > Rubik was the fastest cuber on the planet for a while ! > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2673. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 16:57:17 -0000

I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is used by the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used at all, what would the world record be today? -mike --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > fun! > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > -Richard Patterson > richy_jr_2000@... >
2674. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:07:15 +0100

Better, maybe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@hotmail.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is used by > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used at > all, what would the world record be today? > > -mike > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > fun! > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > -Richard Patterson > > richy_jr_2000@... > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2675. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 18:55:04 -0000

Hej Rune! Maybe you already know this! Everybody here was invited to nominate "their" most influential cuber, so I think most of the community have their nominee in the poll, and therefore think the nomination is OK. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Why such a poll? The only result is that 25% will find the nomination correct, 75% wrong. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:37 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2676. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:18:01 +0100

Up till now there are 86 votes. Most of the community? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber Hej Rune! Maybe you already know this! Everybody here was invited to nominate "their" most influential cuber, so I think most of the community have their nominee in the poll, and therefore think the nomination is OK. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Why such a poll? The only result is that 25% will find the nomination correct, 75% wrong. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:37 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most influential cuber? After all if he > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2677. Eastsheen 4x4 too loose
From: "David " <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 19:33:50 -0000

I cannot stop my 4x4 cube from getting too loose. If I tighten all of the screws as tight as possible, it gets a bit better... however, after a little bit of usage, the cube becomes ridiculously loose and is very unpleasant to use.. it seems like it's practically falling apart. My cube is only a few weeks old. Is this normal? It's incredibly irritating. What can I do? David
2678. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 22:41:04 -0000

Hi :-) The record would be pretty much the same. People would use another fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as fast :D The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be learnt in steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. And from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) Have fun! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...> wrote: > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is used by > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used at > all, what would the world record be today? > > -mike > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > > fun! > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > -Richard Patterson > > richy_jr_2000@ > > >
2679. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:04:17 -0000

Ugh, I hate to be the Devil's Advocate but: I'm just gunna say 1 cent, if i give you my 2 cents or more, this could turn into more... The method most people use is CFOP...sure, its called Fridrich by most, but she...didn't completely invent it, she just made it well known. Other people found this same method. Don't shoot me...The devil sent me... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hi :-) > > The record would be pretty much the same. People would use another > fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as fast :D > > The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be learnt in > steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. And > from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So > there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) > > Have fun! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is > used by > > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used > at > > all, what would the world record be today? > > > > -mike > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. > Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > >
2680. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:25:55 -0000

> Don't shoot me...The devil sent me... What kind of reasoning is this? The devil sent you, so you can be trusted? I say: shoot to kill!
2681. Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Kelvin Cracknell" <kelvin@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:36:49 -0000

> Can you tell what's incorrect about them? > > Cheers! > Stefan > firstly let me state i am not a cuber unfortunately due to my physical disability i was never able to get on with the standard cube i am however completing a degree in software engineering and thought that this would be an interesting problem to look at for my final project. the main problem i have with many of the simulations i've found for comparison centres around the middle row and orientation issues many of the simulations found including some examples in the files section of the croup allow the middle rows of the 3x3x3 cube to move independently like the outer rows. These moves would seem to be physically impssible on an actual cube. the only way you could simulate a move on the middle rows is to rotate the two outer faces and alter the orientation of the cube. implying that each middle row move would actually have to be counted as two moves rather than one. and would only be correct at all if the cube was viewed from one fixed position. the fact that in many cases in these simulations you can perform a move on the centre lines and aulter the orientation view of the cube would seem from a new user perspective to be incorrect am i thinking along the right lines, can tou think of some other reason for implementing this functionality Many thanks kelvin
2682. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:41:19 -0600

yup. kill the messenger. lol. jk On 3/9/06, Michiel van der Blonk <blonkm@...> wrote: > > Don't shoot me...The devil sent me... > What kind of reasoning is this? The devil sent you, so you can be > trusted? I say: shoot to kill! > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2683. Cube competition DVD
From: "Ian" <iwinoky@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:32:23 -0000

Hi folks, I'm doing some spring cleaning and I came across about a million Horace Mann Tournament DVDs that I still have. If you want one, send five bucks to cover the cost of an envelope and postage. Any that are still left in my basement at the end of the month are getting used for target practice. Details from the DVD (and my mailing address) are at: http://home.manhattan.edu/~ian.winokur/DVD/dvd.html Watch as Tyson pops during his first ever official BLD solve before he became a beast! Ian
2684. Rubik's Cube Song
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:41:41 -0000

http://www.amiright.com/parody/60s/marypoppins10.shtml Hmm, maybe I better stop cubing...just kidding :) Peter Greenwood
2685. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 23:53:12 -0600

On a real cube, hold two sides, then push a middle 'slice' with your finger to achieve this effect. It's not only possible, it's very fast. -Mike On 3/9/06, Kelvin Cracknell <kelvin@...> wrote: > > > many of the simulations found including some examples in the files > section of the croup allow the middle rows of the 3x3x3 cube to move > independently like the outer rows. These moves would seem to be > physically impssible on an actual cube. the only way you could > simulate a move on the middle rows is to rotate the two outer faces > and alter the orientation of the cube. implying that each middle row > move would actually have to be counted as two moves rather than one. > and would only be correct at all if the cube was viewed from one > fixed position. > > Many thanks kelvin [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2686. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:13:01 -0000

Hi all, I merely counted the votes to decide the top 5 finalists for the poll. This poll is more for fun than anything else. I will eventually release the comments that were included in all nominations and honorable mentions. These comments will of course be on an anoymous basis. There are a few ways to look at this phrase: "most influential cuber". Indeed there are those who have contributed great things to the community! On the other hand, a relatively unknown cuber can be an influence on a more direct and personal basis. This is an amazing idea, that we do not need to be the world's best to touch the life of another cuber and inspire excellence within him or her. We all have this grand ability within us to influence others; just remember that and smile :) Jindagi acchi hai! -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > yea, why isn't tyson's name there? the cube definitely wouldn't be as > big as it is without him. > > though i guess for me, chris hardwick is most influential. after all, > i didn't even know speedcubing was a sport till i saw his video. > > On 3/8/06, mackymakisumi <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > Hi Per, > > > > > About Macky. What is his contributions apart from being able to > > > solve fast? Not much that i know ... But of course he is an amazing > > > cuber. Im not gonna take that away ... :-) > > > > > > Have fun guys! > > > > > > -Per > > > > You're right, not much. One thought I amuse myself with is that I took > > part in filling California with lots of blindfold cubers. =) > > > > Macky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid >
2687. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:23:03 -0000

Rune, I did not receive an email from you voting for someone, but you care enough to post challenging a relatively harmless poll? Perhaps the most influential cuber in your eyes -- is you :P Surely this effort can be used for more productive things. Happy Cubing, -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Up till now there are 86 votes. Most of the community? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:55 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > Hej Rune! > > Maybe you already know this! Everybody here was invited to > nominate "their" most influential cuber, so I think most of the > community have their nominee in the poll, and therefore think the > nomination is OK. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Why such a poll? The only result is that 25% will find the > nomination correct, 75% wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:37 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > for Most > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing > this. Have > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most > influential cuber? After all if he > > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2688. Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Kelvin Cracknell" <kelvin@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:43:37 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > On a real cube, hold two sides, then push a middle 'slice' with your finger > to achieve this effect. It's not only possible, it's very fast. > i can see that... but as the cube has a fixed centre you are still effectivly rotating the two sides and orienting the cube. the method you discribed may be fast but you are still effectivly performing two moves at once... two face rotations and an orientation the fact that you are holding the two side faces. fixes the orientation angle to one location im sorry if im babbling but this is a interesting point.
2689. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:51:31 +0100

I don´t know very much in life and of course I didn´t know that I had to send you an email to vote. I simply cast my vote there, where five names are shown. I just now checked, If I had voted (skleros, you know), by voting once more and got the answer: "you cannot vote repeatly". So what did I wrong? Should I have sent you an email with a detailed argumentation why voting on mr Z? The most influential cuber? Long ago I taught a girl to assamble the cube. In Her eyes *I* am the most influential cuber in the world. (Like the boy here, who voted on mr X, "for he learnt cubing from his video". If "the most influential cuber" is chosen after such argumentations, the poll is not only "harmless" but even funny and as such, has the right to be laughed at). R ----- Original Message ----- From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:23 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber Rune, I did not receive an email from you voting for someone, but you care enough to post challenging a relatively harmless poll? Perhaps the most influential cuber in your eyes -- is you :P Surely this effort can be used for more productive things. Happy Cubing, -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Up till now there are 86 votes. Most of the community? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:55 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > Hej Rune! > > Maybe you already know this! Everybody here was invited to > nominate "their" most influential cuber, so I think most of the > community have their nominee in the poll, and therefore think the > nomination is OK. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Why such a poll? The only result is that 25% will find the > nomination correct, 75% wrong. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:37 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > for Most > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing > this. Have > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most > influential cuber? After all if he > > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links
2690. Re: Cube competition DVD
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:53:50 -0000

Do you accept paypal? :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@...> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm doing some spring cleaning and I came across about a million > Horace Mann Tournament DVDs that I still have. If you want one, send > five bucks to cover the cost of an envelope and postage. Any that are > still left in my basement at the end of the month are getting used for > target practice. > > Details from the DVD (and my mailing address) are at: > > http://home.manhattan.edu/~ian.winokur/DVD/dvd.html > > Watch as Tyson pops during his first ever official BLD solve before he > became a beast! > > Ian >
2691. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:01:48 +0100

Hej Per, You seem to be the only cuber in Norway now. What do you think, Per, cubing is in general too complicated for a Norwegian? Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:41 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > Hi :-) > > The record would be pretty much the same. People would use another > fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as fast :D > > The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be learnt in > steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. And > from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So > there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) > > Have fun! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > <skeneegee@...> wrote: > > > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is > used by > > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used > at > > all, what would the world record be today? > > > > -mike > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > for Most > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. > Have > > > fun! > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2692. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:32:47 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > I don´t know very much in life and of course I didn´t know that I >had to send you an email to vote. I simply cast my vote there, where >five names are shown. I just now checked, If I had voted (skleros, >you know), by voting once more and got the answer: "you cannot vote >repeatly". So what did I wrong? Should I have sent you an email with >a detailed argumentation why voting on mr Z? I have no idea what you're trying to ask here; sorry :) I have professionals decoding the message right now however. > The most influential cuber? Long ago I taught a girl to assamble >the cube. In Her eyes *I* am the most influential cuber in the world. That is excellent! >(Like the boy here, who voted on mr X, "for he learnt cubing from >his video". If "the most influential cuber" is chosen after such >argumentations, the poll is not only "harmless" but even funny and >as such, has the right to be laughed at). You have just conceded that this poll is indeed harmless. Very good! Then why the fixation on it? As far as the laughter goes; your antics alone provide comic relief you sly dog! -Richard > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 9:23 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > Rune, > > I did not receive an email from you voting for someone, but you care > enough to post challenging a relatively harmless poll? Perhaps the > most influential cuber in your eyes -- is you :P > > Surely this effort can be used for more productive things. > > Happy Cubing, > > -Richard > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Up till now there are 86 votes. Most of the community? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:55 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > > > Hej Rune! > > > > Maybe you already know this! Everybody here was invited to > > nominate "their" most influential cuber, so I think most of the > > community have their nominee in the poll, and therefore think the > > nomination is OK. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > Why such a poll? The only result is that 25% will find the > > nomination correct, 75% wrong. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:37 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > > for Most > > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing > > this. Have > > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just out of curiosity - wouldn't Erno Rubik be the most > > influential cuber? After all if he > > > > hadn't cubed arguably nobody else on this group would have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2693. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:36:59 -0000

Stefan, Wasn't he the worst cuber on the planet for a while too? :P -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" > <cubekid@> wrote: > > > > yea, he could solve it. he did a corner's first method. and it was > > made out of wood. > > > > only reason i know it is because i did a research project on it two > years ago. > > > > but... he never was a speedcuber...:-/ > > > What do you mean? > Rubik was the fastest cuber on the planet for a while ! > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2694. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:46:02 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > Jindagi acchi hai! Bless you. Mike
2695. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:53:08 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I don´t know very much in life and of course I didn´t know that I had to send you an email to vote. I simply cast my vote there, where five names are shown. I just now checked, If I had voted (skleros, you know), by voting once more and got the answer: "you cannot vote repeatly". Richard had asked here about 2 months ago to send him emails voting for your top 1-2 cubers, *that* poll was meant, not the current one which is a result from the first. Cheers! Stefan
2696. Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:55:25 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Kelvin Cracknell" <kelvin@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" > <mikeisadumbname@> wrote: > > > > On a real cube, hold two sides, then push a middle 'slice' with your > finger > > to achieve this effect. It's not only possible, it's very fast. > > > > i can see that... but as the cube has a fixed centre you are still > effectivly rotating the two sides and orienting the cube. Maybe that's what *you* are effectively doing, but certainly Mike and I (and many others) are really doing the middle slice turn, nothing else. Btw, if you don't like that in the simulations, maybe don't use it? Cheers! Stefan
2697. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:56:23 -0000

Don't forget about Eivind Fonn ;). --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Hej Per, > You seem to be the only cuber in Norway now. What do you think, Per, cubing is in general too complicated for a Norwegian? > Rune > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:41 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > Hi :-) > > > > The record would be pretty much the same. People would use another > > fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as fast :D > > > > The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be learnt in > > steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. And > > from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So > > there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) > > > > Have fun! > > > > -Per > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is > > used by > > > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used > > at > > > all, what would the world record be today? > > > > > > -mike > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > > for Most > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. > > Have > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2698. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:01:13 +1100

On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:43:37AM -0000, Kelvin Cracknell wrote: > the method you discribed may be fast but you are still effectivly > performing two moves at once... two face rotations and an orientation Right, Rubik's cube allows for simultaneous movements along parallel planes. On a 20x20x20 cube, we could theoretically perform 19 movements simultaneously (if we had enough hands/fingers) since there are 19 parallel "cut planes" along any axis. 19 simultaneous movements could be performed in the same time as 1 simple move, but would also require exerting 19 times more force. We do not normally think of a cube rotation (orientation as you call it) as a move. One explanation is that it involves zero cut planes. The move you describe can be described as two simultaneous movements without any need for a cube rotation, i.e. r' for the first cut plane, and R for the second cut plane, performed simultaneously. I wouldn't say that methods involving such movements are "incorrectly modelled", however. It is very practical in the description of those methods to describe such movements as single moves rather than two simultaneous moves. Edges last methods tend to keep corners fixed, and move the edges around independently through the middle slices (using "slice" moves). The other kinds of simultaneous movements that are possible on a Rubik's cube (e.g. "anti-slice" moves) are not so common, and I don't know of any standard metric that counts them as one move (even though they are often just as easy to perform as other kinds of simultaneous movement, e.g. r2'R as a simultaneous movement). Ryan
2699. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:10:27 +0100

Yes, I had expected that it must be at least too! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joël van Noort" <joel_vn@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber Don't forget about Eivind Fonn ;). --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Hej Per, > You seem to be the only cuber in Norway now. What do you think, Per, cubing is in general too complicated for a Norwegian? > Rune > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:41 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > Hi :-) > > > > The record would be pretty much the same. People would use another > > fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as fast :D > > > > The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be learnt in > > steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. And > > from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So > > there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) > > > > Have fun! > > > > -Per > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is > > used by > > > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't used > > at > > > all, what would the world record be today? > > > > > > -mike > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll > > for Most > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. > > Have > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2700. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:22:30 -0600

In terms of complexity, middle slice moves on a 3x3 cube change 4 edges and 4 center pieces, or 12 stickers. Rotating a single face on a cube rotates at least 4 edges and 4 corner pieces (and a center in position), or 20 stickers, and a center. Following your logic, a double layer turn would count as two moves. That hardly seems correct. -Mike On 3/10/06, Kelvin Cracknell <kelvin@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" > <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > > > On a real cube, hold two sides, then push a middle 'slice' with your > finger > > to achieve this effect. It's not only possible, it's very fast. > > > > i can see that... but as the cube has a fixed centre you are still > effectivly rotating the two sides and orienting the cube. > > the method you discribed may be fast but you are still effectivly > performing two moves at once... two face rotations and an orientation > > the fact that you are holding the two side faces. fixes the orientation > angle to one location > > im sorry if im babbling but this is a interesting point. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2701. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:35:37 +0100

Thank you! You have the ability - and habit - to disentangle mysteries for a second person (which in fact exist for a third). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I don´t know very much in life and of course I didn´t know that I had to send you an email to vote. I simply cast my vote there, where five names are shown. I just now checked, If I had voted (skleros, you know), by voting once more and got the answer: "you cannot vote repeatly". Richard had asked here about 2 months ago to send him emails voting for your top 1-2 cubers, *that* poll was meant, not the current one which is a result from the first. Cheers! Stefan Yahoo! Groups Links
2702. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:41:35 -0600

okay, im really confused as to why this conversation is even going on. it just seems as if people are bickering over absolutely nothing. just give it up. it's not that big of a deal. On 3/10/06, richy_jr_2000 <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > Stefan, > > Wasn't he the worst cuber on the planet for a while too? :P > > -Richard > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" > > <cubekid@> wrote: > > > > > > yea, he could solve it. he did a corner's first method. and it was > > > made out of wood. > > > > > > only reason i know it is because i did a research project on it > two > > years ago. > > > > > > but... he never was a speedcuber...:-/ > > > > > > What do you mean? > > Rubik was the fastest cuber on the planet for a while ! > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2703. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 22:56:43 +1100

On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 05:22:30AM -0600, Mike Bennett wrote: > In terms of complexity, middle slice moves on a 3x3 cube change 4 edges and > 4 center pieces, or 12 stickers. Rotating a single face on a cube rotates > at least 4 edges and 4 corner pieces (and a center in position), or 20 > stickers, and a center. His observation wasn't about complexity, though. It was about physics. In terms of complexity, a slice move is less complex than a face move because it leaves corners (collectively, the most complex pieces) untouched. In terms of physics, a slice move is more involved than a face move because it involves movements along two cut planes instead of one. Ryan
2704. Re: Cube competition DVD
From: "Ian" <iwinoky@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:45:04 -0000

I accept paypal payments at ian.winokur@... Ian --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > Do you accept paypal? > > :) > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm doing some spring cleaning and I came across about a million > > Horace Mann Tournament DVDs that I still have. If you want one, send > > five bucks to cover the cost of an envelope and postage. Any that are > > still left in my basement at the end of the month are getting used for > > target practice. > > > > Details from the DVD (and my mailing address) are at: > > > > http://home.manhattan.edu/~ian.winokur/DVD/dvd.html > > > > Watch as Tyson pops during his first ever official BLD solve before he > > became a beast! > > > > Ian > > >
2705. Re: Cube competition DVD
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:47:41 -0000

Ian, Do you not use Yahoo anymore??? I haven't seen you online in ages. Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@...> wrote: > > I accept paypal payments at ian.winokur@... > > Ian > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > Do you accept paypal? > > > > :) > > > > ~Thom > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I'm doing some spring cleaning and I came across about a million > > > Horace Mann Tournament DVDs that I still have. If you want one, send > > > five bucks to cover the cost of an envelope and postage. Any that are > > > still left in my basement at the end of the month are getting used for > > > target practice. > > > > > > Details from the DVD (and my mailing address) are at: > > > > > > http://home.manhattan.edu/~ian.winokur/DVD/dvd.html > > > > > > Watch as Tyson pops during his first ever official BLD solve before he > > > became a beast! > > > > > > Ian > > > > > >
2706. Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:46:31 -0000

Hey Stefan, I thought you would be the one to ask about this. With your method, when are corners considered lucky, and when are edges considered lucky. Of course you can't use the standard on speedcubing.com becuase it is for a 4 step solving. I just did a 2:33.10 (started using your method on sunday, PS, it rocks) and I solved 7 corners and 7 edges...Could you please let me know. Thanks in advance, Craig
2707. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:07:06 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey Stefan, > > I thought you would be the one to ask about this. With your method, > when are corners considered lucky, and when are edges considered > lucky. Of course you can't use the standard on speedcubing.com > becuase it is for a 4 step solving. I just did a 2:33.10 (started > using your method on sunday, PS, it rocks) and I solved 7 corners and > 7 edges...Could you please let me know. > > Thanks in advance, > Craig Does that include time for memorization? Even with only 7 edges that would be very impressive for that short amount of practice... I'd say with this method a piece is only lucky if it's solved, i.e. at the correct place with the correct orientation. How many are allowed to be solved to still call it non-lucky? I don't know :-). To be honest, I don't (yet) care much about this because I'm not (yet) fast enough for it to matter. If I'm under 1:30 and I'd claim one of the top spots, then I'll think about what's lucky :-) Cheers! Stefan
2708. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:13:23 -0000

Well any chance you can enlighten me??? Because yes, that time does include memorisation. I have done a lot of times just over 3 minutes, and I think 3 sub-3s. My meorisation is good...i think... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Hey Stefan, > > > > I thought you would be the one to ask about this. With your method, > > when are corners considered lucky, and when are edges considered > > lucky. Of course you can't use the standard on speedcubing.com > > becuase it is for a 4 step solving. I just did a 2:33.10 (started > > using your method on sunday, PS, it rocks) and I solved 7 corners > and > > 7 edges...Could you please let me know. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Craig > > Does that include time for memorization? Even with only 7 edges that > would be very impressive for that short amount of practice... > > I'd say with this method a piece is only lucky if it's solved, i.e. at > the correct place with the correct orientation. How many are allowed > to be solved to still call it non-lucky? I don't know :-). To be > honest, I don't (yet) care much about this because I'm not (yet) fast > enough for it to matter. If I'm under 1:30 and I'd claim one of the > top spots, then I'll think about what's lucky :-) > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2709. Sudokube
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:40:56 -0000

http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 "The most popular puzzle of all time!" If you respect the constraints of the sudoku, how many different solved states are there? Gilles.
2710. [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:05:12 -0000

Isn't Terje Kristensen from Norway? /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Yes, I had expected that it must be at least too! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joël van Noort" <joel_vn@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:56 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > Don't forget about Eivind Fonn ;). > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Hej Per, > > You seem to be the only cuber in Norway now. What do you think, > Per, cubing is in general too complicated for a Norwegian? > > Rune > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:41 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > > > > Hi :-) > > > > > > The record would be pretty much the same. People would use > another > > > fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as > fast :D > > > > > > The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be > learnt in > > > steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. > And > > > from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So > > > there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) > > > > > > Have fun! > > > > > > -Per > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > > > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is > > > used by > > > > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't > used > > > at > > > > all, what would the world record be today? > > > > > > > > -mike > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a > poll > > > for Most > > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing > this. > > > Have > > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2711. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:44:24 -0000

Wow, how much have you practiced? And how do you memorize? I don't know the reasoning behind the numbers you can see in the SCC rules. You might try to directly apply those rules to my method. Just be aware that (in)correct orientation doesn't exist for pieces at the wrong "position" and that a piece is only correctly positioned if it's both at the correct position and with the correct orientation. So you get: For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by: 1) more than 5 corners are solved, or 2) more than 8 edges are solved, or 3) more than 3 corners are solved, or 4) more than 4 edges are solved. Which then collapses into: For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by: a) more than 3 corners are solved, or b) more than 4 edges are solved. Note this is just a quick suggestion and by no means do I claim this is the way it should be done. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Well any chance you can enlighten me??? Because yes, that time does > include memorisation. I have done a lot of times just over 3 minutes, > and I think 3 sub-3s. My meorisation is good...i think... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Stefan, > > > > > > I thought you would be the one to ask about this. With your method, > > > when are corners considered lucky, and when are edges considered > > > lucky. Of course you can't use the standard on speedcubing.com > > > becuase it is for a 4 step solving. I just did a 2:33.10 (started > > > using your method on sunday, PS, it rocks) and I solved 7 corners > > and > > > 7 edges...Could you please let me know. > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > Craig > > > > Does that include time for memorization? Even with only 7 edges that > > would be very impressive for that short amount of practice... > > > > I'd say with this method a piece is only lucky if it's solved, i. e. at > > the correct place with the correct orientation. How many are allowed > > to be solved to still call it non-lucky? I don't know :-). To be > > honest, I don't (yet) care much about this because I'm not (yet) fast > > enough for it to matter. If I'm under 1:30 and I'd claim one of the > > top spots, then I'll think about what's lucky :-) > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
2712. Re: Sudokube
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:47:15 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor Hungarian waiter!" WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? Stefan
2713. Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:53:37 -0000

Hi Richard, try to click "view results"... I get an error message: This Account Has Been Suspended Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible. Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a poll for Most > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing this. Have > fun! > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > -Richard Patterson > richy_jr_2000@... >
2714. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:54:41 -0000

Ummm, I'd say I've practice quite a fair bit. And I memorize a story for the corners, and then store it in "long term" memory. Then for edges, I kind of say a story that I sub-conciously memorize, but I make a mental image of the cube in my head, and the order that they will go. Neither is a hardfast memorisation, and I couldn't tell you the story more than 2 minutes after the solve. I do memorisation quickly, and then think and twist at the same time, cept for corners...For corners I go through the story once, just to see where everything is. Then I go through, trying to remember, and counting for parity, and then I usually do it once more just to make sure its in my head. If its a difficult solve, say maybe 3 or 4 cycles (which may I add are evil) I'll take a little longer to make sure its in my head. Then edges its basic memo. Just long enough to put the blindfold on and do the edges, then I forget it. For 2x2 BLD the most you can have unsolved is 7. So I just memorize a set of colours, a lot like I do edges for 3x3. its at most a string of 6 colours. One solve I did (had 3 corners solved) was Green Green Red Red. So you agree that the more than 4 corrected is lucky...hmmm...intriguing... Your method rocks Stefan, and if you can can you jump on yahoo??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Wow, how much have you practiced? And how do you memorize? > > I don't know the reasoning behind the numbers you can see in the SCC > rules. You might try to directly apply those rules to my method. Just > be aware that (in)correct orientation doesn't exist for pieces at the > wrong "position" and that a piece is only correctly positioned if it's > both at the correct position and with the correct orientation. So you > get: > > For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by: > 1) more than 5 corners are solved, or > 2) more than 8 edges are solved, or > 3) more than 3 corners are solved, or > 4) more than 4 edges are solved. > > Which then collapses into: > > For blindfold solving a lucky case is defined by: > a) more than 3 corners are solved, or > b) more than 4 edges are solved. > > Note this is just a quick suggestion and by no means do I claim this > is the way it should be done. > > Cheers! > Stefan
2715. Re: Sudokube
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:57:03 -0000

This cube doesn't stick to the rules of Sudoku. In theory there shouldn't be the same number in the same row or column or anything. But the corners have two 1s on some of them...so not possible. Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 > > Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor > Hungarian waiter!" > > WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? > > Stefan >
2716. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:02:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > For 2x2 BLD the most you can have unsolved is 7. So I just memorize a > set of colours, a lot like I do edges for 3x3. its at most a string > of 6 colours. One solve I did (had 3 corners solved) was Green Green > Red Red. Hmm... only a string of colors? I memorize a string of color pairs. Do you only memorize the color of the "main" sticker, i.e. the first color in each of my pairs? And then I guess you also store the additional information somewhat intuitively visually? That would be an interesting new approach... > Your method rocks Stefan, and if you can can you jump on yahoo??? Thanks, and no, I need to learn quite a bit for an exam in 10 days, so no chatting for me now (in addition to the general no-chatting-for-me rule :-), sorry... Cheers! Stefan
2717. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:05:00 -0000

For 2x2 I use a string of colours. It wouldn't work for the bigger stuff. But for 3x3 I memorise the pairs like described on your site. Alright...you better pass then... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > For 2x2 BLD the most you can have unsolved is 7. So I just memorize > a > > set of colours, a lot like I do edges for 3x3. its at most a string > > of 6 colours. One solve I did (had 3 corners solved) was Green > Green > > Red Red. > > Hmm... only a string of colors? I memorize a string of color pairs. Do > you only memorize the color of the "main" sticker, i.e. the first > color in each of my pairs? And then I guess you also store the > additional information somewhat intuitively visually? That would be an > interesting new approach... > > > Your method rocks Stefan, and if you can can you jump on yahoo??? > > Thanks, and no, I need to learn quite a bit for an exam in 10 days, so > no chatting for me now (in addition to the general no-chatting-for-me > rule :-), sorry... > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2718. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:32:14 -0000

In Thom Barlow's quote on the UWR page for 2x2 BLD he mentions doing a turn then getting an easier case. So I decided to try this. A cube that started out with 6 unsolved pieces, I did L', to make 4 unsolved pieces, memorised Green Orange Orange, and solved in 30.59. :D Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > For 2x2 I use a string of colours. It wouldn't work for the bigger > stuff. But for 3x3 I memorise the pairs like described on your site. > > Alright...you better pass then... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > For 2x2 BLD the most you can have unsolved is 7. So I just memorize > > a > > > set of colours, a lot like I do edges for 3x3. its at most a string > > > of 6 colours. One solve I did (had 3 corners solved) was Green > > Green > > > Red Red. > > > > Hmm... only a string of colors? I memorize a string of color pairs. Do > > you only memorize the color of the "main" sticker, i.e. the first > > color in each of my pairs? And then I guess you also store the > > additional information somewhat intuitively visually? That would be an > > interesting new approach... > > > > > Your method rocks Stefan, and if you can can you jump on yahoo??? > > > > Thanks, and no, I need to learn quite a bit for an exam in 10 days, so > > no chatting for me now (in addition to the general no-chatting-for-me > > rule :-), sorry... > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
2719. [Speed cubing group] Re: New Member - Rubik help
From: "Kelvin Cracknell" <kelvin@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:58:20 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 05:22:30AM -0600, Mike Bennett wrote: > > In terms of complexity, middle slice moves on a 3x3 cube change 4 edges and > > 4 center pieces, or 12 stickers. Rotating a single face on a cube rotates > > at least 4 edges and 4 corner pieces (and a center in position), or 20 > > stickers, and a center. > > His observation wasn't about complexity, though. It was about physics. > > In terms of complexity, a slice move is less complex than a face move > because it leaves corners (collectively, the most complex pieces) > untouched. > > In terms of physics, a slice move is more involved than a face move > because it involves movements along two cut planes instead of one. > > > Ryan > please understand it is not my intention to offend but the brief of my project is to design and build a 2D model with all its physical properties and limitations and to build a solution algorithm into it. to demo my thinking i have just uploaded the design specs of my sim into the files section under Rubik 2D directory in a hope that you can better understand my problem. i am not looking at this in a speed cubing prospective just a research project into a problem i could never solve. your input and responces over the last few days have been of immense value to me.. if anyone is willing i would like to be able to post my simulator which is working as a basic sim only for some of you to respond to.. i would greatly welcome any comments on in consistancies that you find in my work. many thanks again Kelvin
2720. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 00:01:04 +0000

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:47:15 -0000, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> said: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > > > > [1]http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 > Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor > Hungarian waiter!" > > WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? > Stefan Maybe Mr Rubik had a part-time job in a restaurant when he was a young architecture student?? Or maybe the person who wrote that doesn't have a clue and doesn't know how to use Google?? ;) Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin
2721. Tutorial Videos now on Google
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 00:39:11 -0000

CO: http://tinyurl.com/q4g7j CP: http://tinyurl.com/pyxkq EO: http://tinyurl.com/mcfwn EP: http://tinyurl.com/pu6gr Solve: http://tinyurl.com/pfk2a Diagram of different CO cases: http://tinyurl.com/r7vrc
2722. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:41:30 -0000

You did do this after putting on the blindfold though, right? ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > In Thom Barlow's quote on the UWR page for 2x2 BLD he mentions doing a > turn then getting an easier case. So I decided to try this. A cube > that started out with 6 unsolved pieces, I did L', to make 4 unsolved > pieces, memorised Green Orange Orange, and solved in 30.59. :D > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > For 2x2 I use a string of colours. It wouldn't work for the bigger > > stuff. But for 3x3 I memorise the pairs like described on your site. > > > > Alright...you better pass then... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > For 2x2 BLD the most you can have unsolved is 7. So I just > memorize > > > a > > > > set of colours, a lot like I do edges for 3x3. its at most a string > > > > of 6 colours. One solve I did (had 3 corners solved) was Green > > > Green > > > > Red Red. > > > > > > Hmm... only a string of colors? I memorize a string of color > pairs. Do > > > you only memorize the color of the "main" sticker, i.e. the first > > > color in each of my pairs? And then I guess you also store the > > > additional information somewhat intuitively visually? That would > be an > > > interesting new approach... > > > > > > > Your method rocks Stefan, and if you can can you jump on yahoo??? > > > > > > Thanks, and no, I need to learn quite a bit for an exam in 10 > days, so > > > no chatting for me now (in addition to the general no-chatting-for-me > > > rule :-), sorry... > > > > > > Cheers! > > > Stefan > > > > > >
2723. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:54:45 +0100

In the different biographies of Erno Rubik the word "waiter" can only be found in one place. It´s the episode, when Laczi had stopped at a small-town cafe between Vienna and Budapest and caugh sight of a cube at the {waiter}. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@fastmail.fm> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:47:15 -0000, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > said: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > > <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > [1]http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 > > Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor > > Hungarian waiter!" > > > > WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? > > Stefan > > Maybe Mr Rubik had a part-time job in a restaurant when he was a young > architecture student?? Or maybe the person who wrote that doesn't have a > clue and doesn't know how to use Google?? ;) > > Jasmine > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2724. Re: Stefan's BLD method and the standard for a lucky case
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:09:44 -0000

Of course, otherwise it would be cheating... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > You did do this after putting on the blindfold though, right? > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > In Thom Barlow's quote on the UWR page for 2x2 BLD he mentions doing a > > turn then getting an easier case. So I decided to try this. A cube > > that started out with 6 unsolved pieces, I did L', to make 4 unsolved > > pieces, memorised Green Orange Orange, and solved in 30.59. :D > > > > Craig
2725. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 14:22:30 -0000

Posted that I had one of these a while ago. Very tricky. Clearly the intent is that each face is solved as a sudoku puizzle so they do respect the rules. As for how many solutions - I'm still not sure - it may depend on whether you allow a solution with the numbers wrongly oriented with respect to each other on a given face. Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > This cube doesn't stick to the rules of Sudoku. In theory there > shouldn't be the same number in the same row or column or anything. > But the corners have two 1s on some of them...so not possible. > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" >> <grrroux@> wrote: >> > >> > >> > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 >> >> Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor >> Hungarian waiter!" >> >> WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? >> >> Stefan >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2726. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:56:12 -0600

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't a sudokube essentially just a supercube? On 3/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > Posted that I had one of these a while ago. Very tricky. Clearly the > intent is that each face is solved as a sudoku puizzle so they do respect > the rules. As for how many solutions - I'm still not sure - it may depend > on whether you allow a solution with the numbers wrongly oriented with > respect to each other on a given face. > > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:57 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > > > > This cube doesn't stick to the rules of Sudoku. In theory there > > shouldn't be the same number in the same row or column or anything. > > But the corners have two 1s on some of them...so not possible. > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@...> wrote: > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > >> <grrroux@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 > >> > >> Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor > >> Hungarian waiter!" > >> > >> WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? > >> > >> Stefan > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2727. Sub-20 average.
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 16:00:08 -0000

19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 18.21 ==> 19.78 Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. Roux is definatly my favourite method now. Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... ~Thom
2728. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:02:36 -0000

There is more than one way of getting a solved sudoku on each face (I believe). The question of oreintation of the numbers applies not just to centres but to all the numbers. Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't a sudokube essentially just a > supercube? > > On 3/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: >> Posted that I had one of these a while ago. Very tricky. Clearly the >> intent is that each face is solved as a sudoku puizzle so they do respect >> the rules. As for how many solutions - I'm still not sure - it may >> depend >> on whether you allow a solution with the numbers wrongly oriented with >> respect to each other on a given face. >> >> Duncan >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:57 PM >> Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube >> >> >> > This cube doesn't stick to the rules of Sudoku. In theory there >> > shouldn't be the same number in the same row or column or anything. >> > But the corners have two 1s on some of them...so not possible. >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > >> > >> > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" >> > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" >> >> <grrroux@> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 >> >> >> >> Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor >> >> Hungarian waiter!" >> >> >> >> WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? >> >> >> >> Stefan >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > -cubekid > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2729. Re: [Speed cubing group] Sub-20 average.
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 10:40:01 -0800 (PST)

nice job! where did u find ure solution for the roux method? I'm thinking of learning it thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...> wrote: 19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 18.21 ==> 19.78 Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. Roux is definatly my favourite method now. Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... ~Thom SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2730. DIY Cubes
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:51:51 -0000

I hear the DIY cubes are supposed to be quite good... is this what everyone is talking about? https://secure.rubiks.com/lvl3/index_lvl3.cfm? lan=eng&lvl1=produc&lvl2=rubbrn&lvl3=diykit&lvl4=cubkit I'd really like to get a better cube that turns smoothly and doesn't lock up so easily. Is this the best 3x3 around, you think?
2731. Re: [Speed cubing group] Sub-20 average.
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:15:17 -0000

I'm pretty sure Roux's site himself. Kir uses some advanced stuff though. Not just the basic method. Roux's site is: http://grrroux.free.fr/ Hes got everything on there Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > nice job! where did u find ure solution for the roux method? I'm thinking of learning it > > thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...> wrote: 19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 > 18.21 ==> 19.78 > > Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) > > Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. > > Roux is definatly my favourite method now. > > Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. > > I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) > > Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... > > ~Thom > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2732. 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 19:34:35 -0000

Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve.
2733. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:48:24 -0600

Ahh okay. that's cool. maybe cubesmith will start creating sudokube stickers. maybe not. On 3/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@....uk> wrote: > There is more than one way of getting a solved sudoku on each face (I > believe). The question of oreintation of the numbers applies not just to > centres but to all the numbers. > > Duncan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > > > > correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't a sudokube essentially just a > > supercube? > > > > On 3/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > >> Posted that I had one of these a while ago. Very tricky. Clearly the > >> intent is that each face is solved as a sudoku puizzle so they do respect > >> the rules. As for how many solutions - I'm still not sure - it may > >> depend > >> on whether you allow a solution with the numbers wrongly oriented with > >> respect to each other on a given face. > >> > >> Duncan > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...m> > >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:57 PM > >> Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > >> > >> > >> > This cube doesn't stick to the rules of Sudoku. In theory there > >> > shouldn't be the same number in the same row or column or anything. > >> > But the corners have two 1s on some of them...so not possible. > >> > > >> > Craig > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > >> > <pochmann@...> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > >> >> <grrroux@> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 > >> >> > >> >> Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor > >> >> Hungarian waiter!" > >> >> > >> >> WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? > >> >> > >> >> Stefan > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -cubekid > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2734. Re: [Speed cubing group] DIY Cubes
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:50:06 -0600

omg they're back in stock. but yea, it's a matter of preference. some people prefer the Rubik's Games that you can buy on ebay to these. others prefer these to anything else. some even prefer regular cubes. but yes, these are supposed to be good. On 3/11/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I hear the DIY cubes are supposed to be quite good... is this what > everyone is talking about? > > https://secure.rubiks.com/lvl3/index_lvl3.cfm? > lan=eng&lvl1=produc&lvl2=rubbrn&lvl3=diykit&lvl4=cubkit > > I'd really like to get a better cube that turns smoothly and doesn't > lock up so easily. Is this the best 3x3 around, you think? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2735. Re: [Speed cubing group] Sub-20 average.
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 13:51:45 -0600

sweet! congrats. maybe ill go sub-20 this week. On 3/11/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > I'm pretty sure Roux's site himself. Kir uses some advanced stuff > though. Not just the basic method. Roux's site is: > > http://grrroux.free.fr/ > > Hes got everything on there > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham > <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > > > nice job! where did u find ure solution for the roux method? I'm > thinking of learning it > > > > thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...> wrote: 19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 > (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 > > 18.21 ==> 19.78 > > > > Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) > > > > Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. > > > > Roux is definatly my favourite method now. > > > > Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. > > > > I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) > > > > Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2736. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:12:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 <no_reply@. ..> wrote: > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick sniff, sniff... goodbye, my precious, goodbye... argh, bullshit, was about time somebody destroyed that crappy old record :-) Cheers! Stefan
2737. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:32:45 -0000

O_O HOLY COW. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >
2738. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:39:07 -0000

My exact reaction...Just think Macky, if you had been there you could have gotten Sub-1!!! Maybe it was lucky...hmmm...thats insane...and Chris, What happened??? 35 minutes in practice...hehe...I'm just bugging :D YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! And the 4x4??? what happened to it??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > O_O > > HOLY COW. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > >
2739. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:06:28 -0300 (ART)

Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha Congratz Leyan Pedro varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2740. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:08:10 -0000

Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 record? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > Congratz Leyan > > Pedro > > varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2741. Re: Sub-20 average.
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:26:41 -0000

I mostly use the stuff from http://grrroux.free.fr/. I take some stuff from http://geocities.com/cubiks_ruber/ and sebastian's multislotting algs (second block) Use pure CMLL, learning NMCMLL (http://tinyurl.com/mjn9v) I think I'm the only sub-20 roux cuber who uses non-matching blocks :D I also use opposite blocks and inverted blocks, I don't think there are pages for any of these, because half of roux is finding out stuff yourself. ~Thom (18 tomorrow!) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > nice job! where did u find ure solution for the roux method? I'm thinking of learning it > > thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...> wrote: 19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 > 18.21 ==> 19.78 > > Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) > > Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. > > Roux is definatly my favourite method now. > > Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. > > I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) > > Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... > > ~Thom > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2742. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:30:38 -0000

Nah, Leyan owns me now. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > My exact reaction...Just think Macky, if you had been there you could > have gotten Sub-1!!! Maybe it was lucky...hmmm...thats insane...and > Chris, What happened??? 35 minutes in practice...hehe...I'm just > bugging :D YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! And the 4x4??? what happened to it??? > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > O_O > > > > HOLY COW. > > > > Macky > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve.
2743. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 21:59:56 -0000

Congrats Leyan!! That's a fantastic time. And I say congratulations to Chris too. It's a great achievement to just have solved 5*5*5 blindfolded, and doing it at a competition iseven more impressive. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >
2744. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "jello33" <chris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:51:29 -0000

Congratulations Leyan and Chris! Those are simple amazing times. I'll be in touch about your custom logo stickers soon. Chris www.cubesmith.com --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >
2745. [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube
From: "jello33" <chris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 23:52:29 -0000

That ones on the short list for sure. Chris www.cubesmith.com --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > Ahh okay. that's cool. > > maybe cubesmith will start creating sudokube stickers. > > maybe not. > > On 3/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > > There is more than one way of getting a solved sudoku on each face (I > > believe). The question of oreintation of the numbers applies not just to > > centres but to all the numbers. > > > > Duncan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 2:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > > > > > > > correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't a sudokube essentially just a > > > supercube? > > > > > > On 3/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > > >> Posted that I had one of these a while ago. Very tricky. Clearly the > > >> intent is that each face is solved as a sudoku puizzle so they do respect > > >> the rules. As for how many solutions - I'm still not sure - it may > > >> depend > > >> on whether you allow a solution with the numbers wrongly oriented with > > >> respect to each other on a given face. > > >> > > >> Duncan > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> > > >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > >> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 7:57 PM > > >> Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Sudokube > > >> > > >> > > >> > This cube doesn't stick to the rules of Sudoku. In theory there > > >> > shouldn't be the same number in the same row or column or anything. > > >> > But the corners have two 1s on some of them...so not possible. > > >> > > > >> > Craig > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > >> > <pochmann@> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > > >> >> <grrroux@> wrote: > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > http://www.prezzybox.com/products/index.aspx?pid=3698 > > >> >> > > >> >> Quote about Rubik's Cube: "Not bad for something developed by a poor > > >> >> Hungarian waiter!" > > >> >> > > >> >> WHAT ?!? Waiter ?!? > > >> >> > > >> >> Stefan > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -cubekid > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid >
2746. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 03:42:36 -0000

Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's almost- tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but he completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only got the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when I get back home. As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official competition, so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized event. Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. Chris Pelley --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 record? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > > > Congratz Leyan > > > > Pedro > > > > varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2747. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:21:45 +0000 (GMT)

well done and cograts to Mr.Chris Hardwick, Mr.Leyon Lo & Mr.Tyson Mao!!!!!! J.Bernett Orlando varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2748. Re: [Speed cubing group] Sub-20 average.
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:27:41 +0000 (GMT)

Hi, nice feeling, isn't it ? I experienced the same last month. Happy cubing J.Bernett Orlando thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...> wrote: 19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 18.21 ==> 19.78 Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. Roux is definatly my favourite method now. Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... ~Thom SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2749. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 04:48:31 -0000

I posted some photos of the event here: http://tinyurl.com/pajhy Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's almost- > tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but he > completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only got > the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when I > get back home. > > As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official competition, > so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized event. > Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > Chris Pelley > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > record? > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > > > Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > > > > > Congratz Leyan > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > > games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
2750. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:17:04 -0300 (ART)

Does someone has the scrambles from the bld competition? Pedro mackymakisumi <mackymakisumi@...> escreveu: Nah, Leyan owns me now. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > My exact reaction...Just think Macky, if you had been there you could > have gotten Sub-1!!! Maybe it was lucky...hmmm...thats insane...and > Chris, What happened??? 35 minutes in practice...hehe...I'm just > bugging :D YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! And the 4x4??? what happened to it??? > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > O_O > > > > HOLY COW. > > > > Macky > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2751. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:04:42 -0600

Man, that competition sounds like it was fun. Wish I could have come :( On 3/12/06, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > Does someone has the scrambles from the bld competition? > > Pedro > > mackymakisumi <mackymakisumi@...> escreveu: > Nah, Leyan owns me now. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@...> wrote: > > > > My exact reaction...Just think Macky, if you had been there you could > > have gotten Sub-1!!! Maybe it was lucky...hmmm...thats insane...and > > Chris, What happened??? 35 minutes in practice...hehe...I'm just > > bugging :D YOU ROCK!!!!!!!! And the 4x4??? what happened to it??? > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > > <mackymakisumi@> wrote: > > > > > > O_O > > > > > > HOLY COW. > > > > > > Macky > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, varkmaster2 > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2752. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:48:53 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...> wrote: > > Man, that competition sounds like it was fun. > > Wish I could have come :( > Maybe you would have won. ~Thom
2753. improving intuitive F2L
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:52:23 -0800 (PST)

I'm working on my intuitive F2L right now and can usually solve the F2L in between 35-60 seconds (i know, a broad range). I have a list of the algs, and I have deconstructed them and learned new techniques from them.. however, since they are optimized, there are some cases which are simply not intuitive. Has someone made a site which shows exactly how a good cubist would solve difficult cases intuitively? I don't want to memorize these algs, so how should I deal with these cases? I can certainly solve them, but it's slow. In some of these cases, I think it might be faster/easier to use the newbie method, solving the corner first and using an 8-move alg to insert the edge. Is that a good way of dealing with these cases? In general, after understanding the basics of intuitive F2L, how do I improve? (besides practice, practice, practice). Are there more advanced techniques? David ps--how many moves (90 degree) does it take you guys to solve the F2L (not including cross)? --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2754. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 12:22:31 -0800

I'll put up scrambles in a bit. Interestingly, none of the BLD scrambles were lucky... or even particularly easy. I'm quite confused as to why the times were so fast. I think we're just getting better. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:48 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" > <cubekid@...> wrote: >> >> Man, that competition sounds like it was fun. >> >> Wish I could have come :( >> > > Maybe you would have won. > > ~Thom > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2755. I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:34:52 -0000

Hey Everyone, I was just thinking about this, and don't know where the idea came from, but who on here would be interested if I restarted the Sunday Blindfold Contest that Chris Hardwick used to host? I would run it sort of like Chris did, with some minor differences. Right now I am just asking to see if you are interested. So far the people that said they might enter are: Joël Van Noort Thom Barlow Leyan Lo(maybe) Craig Bouchard Casey Pernsteiner Chris Brownlee Either e-mail me at logitewty@... or repsond here. I'm sure there are many others that would be interested. I would run this like Jon Morris runs his Sunday Contest. I'll put up the scrambles. You do them, and send in your times. There will be different divisions, depending on what you want to do. Like I said, this is just a preliminary count to see if there would be enough interest to consider hosting this. Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard
2756. Nice scramble
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:55:58 -0000

Hey guys, I don't know if anyone cares, but I had a very nice time on this scramble...: R F U' D2 R' D2 L F' B U R2 L2 B L F' L2 R' F L F' D R2 F' B' L2 Maybe someone wants to try it.. - Joël.
2757. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 14:58:55 -0600

heh, there's no way i would have won. i just like going to competitions. and since i don't live in california, there's not many opportunities for me to attend contests. oh well. that'll change next year, so i'm not too worried. On 3/12/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > I'll put up scrambles in a bit. Interestingly, none of the BLD > scrambles were lucky... or even particularly easy. I'm quite confused > as to why the times were so fast. I think we're just getting better. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:48 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" > > <cubekid@...> wrote: > >> > >> Man, that competition sounds like it was fun. > >> > >> Wish I could have come :( > >> > > > > Maybe you would have won. > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2758. Re: improving intuitive F2L
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:40:51 -0000

Here's a few ideas: For cases that have both pieces already in F2L, try just taking the pieces out (e.g. R U R' U') and solving regularly For instance, R U R' U' R U2 R' U' R U R' for C2 (on Macky's page: http://tinyurl.com/jbt67) M2 can be solved by doing R U2 R' F' U2 F U2 F' U F Also, the case where the edge is flipped and the corner is solved can be solved by doing R U R' U2 R U2 R' U F' U' F These are slightly longer than algs but I prefer many of them (except the one for M2: I like the F2L alg yU2L2U2LUL'UL2 listed on Macky's page) Hope this helps! Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I'm working on my intuitive F2L right now and can usually solve the F2L in between 35-60 seconds (i know, a broad range). I have a list of the algs, and I have deconstructed them and learned new techniques from them.. however, since they are optimized, there are some cases which are simply not intuitive. > > Has someone made a site which shows exactly how a good cubist would solve difficult cases intuitively? > > I don't want to memorize these algs, so how should I deal with these cases? I can certainly solve them, but it's slow. In some of these cases, I think it might be faster/easier to use the newbie method, solving the corner first and using an 8-move alg to insert the edge. Is that a good way of dealing with these cases? > > In general, after understanding the basics of intuitive F2L, how do I improve? (besides practice, practice, practice). Are there more advanced techniques? > > David > > ps--how many moves (90 degree) does it take you guys to solve the F2L (not including cross)? > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2759. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:40:52 -0300 (ART)

How was it? I'll probably be very interested on participating...I have more chances of winning than the Sunday Contest...:-) Pedro PS.: I added you on msn, Craig my email is pedrosino1@... Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> escreveu: Hey Everyone, I was just thinking about this, and don't know where the idea came from, but who on here would be interested if I restarted the Sunday Blindfold Contest that Chris Hardwick used to host? I would run it sort of like Chris did, with some minor differences. Right now I am just asking to see if you are interested. So far the people that said they might enter are: Joël Van Noort Thom Barlow Leyan Lo(maybe) Craig Bouchard Casey Pernsteiner Chris Brownlee Either e-mail me at logitewty@... or repsond here. I'm sure there are many others that would be interested. I would run this like Jon Morris runs his Sunday Contest. I'll put up the scrambles. You do them, and send in your times. There will be different divisions, depending on what you want to do. Like I said, this is just a preliminary count to see if there would be enough interest to consider hosting this. Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2760. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:46:53 -0800

This would motivate me to practice, so I'm in. -Chris On 3/12/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I was just thinking about this, and don't know where the idea came > from, but who on here would be interested if I restarted the Sunday > Blindfold Contest that Chris Hardwick used to host? > > I would run it sort of like Chris did, with some minor differences. > Right now I am just asking to see if you are interested. So far the > people that said they might enter are: > > Joël Van Noort > Thom Barlow > Leyan Lo(maybe) > Craig Bouchard > Casey Pernsteiner > Chris Brownlee > > Either e-mail me at logitewty@... or repsond here. I'm sure > there are many others that would be interested. I would run this like > Jon Morris runs his Sunday Contest. I'll put up the scrambles. You > do them, and send in your times. There will be different divisions, > depending on what you want to do. Like I said, this is just a > preliminary count to see if there would be enough interest to consider > hosting this. > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > Craig Bouchard > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2761. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:58:29 -0000

Count me in too. I am so happy, I bought a new DIY from Rubik's and some extra stickers for durability. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > This would motivate me to practice, so I'm in. > > -Chris > > On 3/12/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > > > I was just thinking about this, and don't know where the idea came > > from, but who on here would be interested if I restarted the Sunday > > Blindfold Contest that Chris Hardwick used to host? > > > > I would run it sort of like Chris did, with some minor differences. > > Right now I am just asking to see if you are interested. So far the > > people that said they might enter are: > > > > Joël Van Noort > > Thom Barlow > > Leyan Lo(maybe) > > Craig Bouchard > > Casey Pernsteiner > > Chris Brownlee > > > > Either e-mail me at logitewty@... or repsond here. I'm sure > > there are many others that would be interested. I would run this like > > Jon Morris runs his Sunday Contest. I'll put up the scrambles. You > > do them, and send in your times. There will be different divisions, > > depending on what you want to do. Like I said, this is just a > > preliminary count to see if there would be enough interest to consider > > hosting this. > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2762. Re: I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:18:24 -0000

Count me in as well. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Count me in too. I am so happy, I bought a new DIY from Rubik's and > some extra stickers for durability. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > This would motivate me to practice, so I'm in. > > > > -Chris
2763. Re: Sub-20 average.
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:14:33 -0000

Thom, I was looking at the multislotting images in the file section of this group and was having a hard time deciphering them. It doesn't seem that all the cases are shown. Is this method basically pairing up a second pair as you insert the first pair? Any tips to decipher? Thanks. Roger Wood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > I mostly use the stuff from http://grrroux.free.fr/. > > I take some stuff from http://geocities.com/cubiks_ruber/ and > sebastian's multislotting algs (second block) > > Use pure CMLL, learning NMCMLL (http://tinyurl.com/mjn9v) > > I think I'm the only sub-20 roux cuber who uses non-matching blocks :D > > I also use opposite blocks and inverted blocks, I don't think there > are pages for any of these, because half of roux is finding out stuff > yourself. > > ~Thom > > (18 tomorrow!) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Hai Pham > <aznboi1234321@> wrote: > > > > nice job! where did u find ure solution for the roux method? I'm > thinking of learning it > > > > thomkirjava <snkenjoi@> wrote: 19.38 19.36 22.06 17.70 18.97 > (17.43) 21.02 (26.18) 17.86 23.45 20.85 > > 18.21 ==> 19.78 > > > > Pulled out all the stops for this one :D (the 26.18 was a pop) > > > > Thanks; Gilles, Dan, Paul, #rubik, etc. > > > > Roux is definatly my favourite method now. > > > > Finally I can join the (not-so)-elite. > > > > I'm 18 tomorrow, so this is the best present I could have had :) > > > > Next I'm after sub-3 for BLD. I got a 3:13 today but meh... > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2764. distractions
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:48:36 -0800

Competition solving is certainly interesting. However, with practice, maybe some day, some of you will be able to withstand the most serious of all distractions: http://photos-n-00.facebook.com/n14/78/78/1113600018/ n1113600018_30013462_7163.jpg Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2765. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:48:13 -0000

Woah, Tyson...what happened? Solve 4 in the finals was 59.97...where'd that come from? Was that a bad pop that you fixed and kept going? Or did you just...mess up badly? Or are the results on speedcubing.com wrong? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I'll put up scrambles in a bit. Interestingly, none of the BLD > scrambles were lucky... or even particularly easy. I'm quite confused > as to why the times were so fast. I think we're just getting better. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:48 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" > > <cubekid@> wrote: > >> > >> Man, that competition sounds like it was fun. > >> > >> Wish I could have come :( > >> > > > > Maybe you would have won. > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2766. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:55:02 -0800

The solve was around 24 seconds. It was going to be my slowest solve so I figured I might as well try and get as close to 60 seconds as possible. Though if someone asks, it's because I looked up and saw Leyan grinning at me. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 12, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Tim Reynolds wrote: > Woah, Tyson...what happened? > > Solve 4 in the finals was 59.97...where'd that come from? Was that > a bad pop that you fixed and kept going? Or did you just...mess up > badly? Or are the results on speedcubing.com wrong? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> I'll put up scrambles in a bit. Interestingly, none of the BLD >> scrambles were lucky... or even particularly easy. I'm quite > confused >> as to why the times were so fast. I think we're just getting > better. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Mar 12, 2006, at 10:48 AM, thomkirjava wrote: >> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sapan Upadhyay" >>> <cubekid@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Man, that competition sounds like it was fun. >>>> >>>> Wish I could have come :( >>>> >>> >>> Maybe you would have won. >>> >>> ~Thom >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2767. Re: [Speed cubing group] distractions
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:25:27 -0600

yea... i don't get it... can someone help me out? On 3/12/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > Competition solving is certainly interesting. However, with practice, > maybe some day, some of you will be able to withstand the most serious > of all distractions: > > http://photos-n-00.facebook.com/n14/78/78/1113600018/ > n1113600018_30013462_7163.jpg > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2768. Re: [Speed cubing group] distractions
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:34:15 -0800

Look at the Leyan staring at me. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 12, 2006, at 7:25 PM, Sapan Upadhyay wrote: > yea... i don't get it... can someone help me out? > > On 3/12/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: >> Competition solving is certainly interesting. However, with practice, >> maybe some day, some of you will be able to withstand the most serious >> of all distractions: >> >> http://photos-n-00.facebook.com/n14/78/78/1113600018/ >> n1113600018_30013462_7163.jpg >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > -cubekid > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2769. Re: [Speed cubing group] distractions
From: smgfreak_dk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 04:10:46 -0000

7b) Audience must be at least 1.50 meter away from the competitors. maybe that saves us a bit.. a bit.. horrible experience. did an average on stackmat standing up with cold fingers: 17.10, 19.51, (15.64), 21.91, 19.66, 18.54, (22.20), 17.82, 20.81, 17.70, 20.08, 15.83 --> 18.90 average I better practice standing. Darren --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Look at the Leyan staring at me. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 12, 2006, at 7:25 PM, Sapan Upadhyay wrote: > > > yea... i don't get it... can someone help me out? > > > > On 3/12/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > >> Competition solving is certainly interesting. However, with practice, > >> maybe some day, some of you will be able to withstand the most serious > >> of all distractions: > >> > >> http://photos-n-00.facebook.com/n14/78/78/1113600018/ > >> n1113600018_30013462_7163.jpg > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > -cubekid > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2770. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:31:09 -0600

Ditto that. -Mike On 3/12/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Count me in as well. > > Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2771. SV: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber
From: "Terje Kristensen" <terje.kristensen@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:14:29 +0100

Sure is :) Terje -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] På vegne av Gunnar Krig Sendt: 10. mars 2006 20:05 Til: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Emne: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber Isn't Terje Kristensen from Norway? /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Yes, I had expected that it must be at least too! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joël van Noort" <joel_vn@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 11:56 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > Don't forget about Eivind Fonn ;). > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Hej Per, > > You seem to be the only cuber in Norway now. What do you think, > Per, cubing is in general too complicated for a Norwegian? > > Rune > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:41 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Most Influential Cuber > > > > > > > Hi :-) > > > > > > The record would be pretty much the same. People would use > another > > > fast method. Im in no doubt that other methods can be just as > fast :D > > > > > > The good thing about the Fridrich method is that it can be > learnt in > > > steps. Increasing complexity. Increasing number of algorithms. > And > > > from Fridrich u can extend it to even more complex methods. So > > > there's no wonder it's such a popular method ;-) > > > > > > Have fun! > > > > > > -Per > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > > > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I thought Jessica would win this for sure. Her basic method is > > > used by > > > > the majority of world class speedcubers. If her method wasn't > used > > > at > > > > all, what would the world record be today? > > > > > > > > -mike > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I tallied up the nominations, and have finally created a > poll > > > for Most > > > > > Influential Cuber. Sorry for the gigantic delay in doing > this. > > > Have > > > > > fun! > > > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll.html > > > > > > > > > > -Richard Patterson > > > > > richy_jr_2000@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle +game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+ puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJD BnytECiSfUCw> puzzle game Free <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+p uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4= Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0 wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> puzzle inlay games Educational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigs aw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle &w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3 7T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> game and puzzle Word <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+g ame&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+pu zzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dS S_WgIx9QRg> puzzle game Kid <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+ga me&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puz zle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyI ak1hdhkgQ> puzzle game Puzzle <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game& w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle +game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB 7KhBMA> games _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsub scribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2772. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:10:40 -0000

Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I posted some photos of the event here: > > http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > > think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > > > I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's almost- > > tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but he > > completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only > got > > the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when I > > get back home. > > > > As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official competition, > > so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized event. > > Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > > > Chris Pelley > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > > record? > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > > > > > > > Congratz Leyan > > > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > > > varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > > > games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > >
2773. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:06 -0000

And here is the video of Chris Hardwick's 5x5x5 blindfold record: http://tinyurl.com/s26so Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I posted some photos of the event here: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > > > think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > > > > > I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > almost- > > > tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > he > > > completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only > > got > > > the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when > I > > > get back home. > > > > > > As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > competition, > > > so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > event. > > > Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > > > > > Chris Pelley > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > > > record? > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > > > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > > > > > > > > > Congratz Leyan > > > > > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > > > > > varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > > Educational > > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle > > > > games > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2774. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:03:31 -0800 (PST)

I'm game cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Count me in as well. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Count me in too. I am so happy, I bought a new DIY from Rubik's and > some extra stickers for durability. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > This would motivate me to practice, so I'm in. > > > > -Chris SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2775. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:08:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > Chris For obvious reasons, I vote for incorporating guns into video cameras. Thanks! Stefan
2776. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:14:01 -0000

I second that notion...my dad wants a Bazooka on the hood of his car too...to blow those cars (especially taxis) outta the way when they block the lane. Stefan, I need to talk to you about something. What e-mail should I send to??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > > > Chris > > > For obvious reasons, I vote for incorporating guns into video cameras. > > Thanks! > Stefan >
2777. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:45:35 -0000

And Stefan, we could then move to Florida, so that we would be allowed to use them. I feel threatened by someone walking in front of my camera... HAHAHAHA... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > > > Chris > > > For obvious reasons, I vote for incorporating guns into video cameras. > > Thanks! > Stefan >
2778. Workshop and television interview
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:23:53 -0000

This weekend we're doing a Rubik's cube workshop for anyone interested on Aruba (I know most of you are not living on Aruba LOL). Anyway, I wanted to ask people who have done such a thing before for some pointers. We are having a maximum of 14 people, and I have no idea who is going to show up. It's going to be part of a day of events, and there might be kids and grown ups together. Since I don't have that many cubes we also asked anyone to bring a cube if they have one. The workshop is only half an hour, so I guess I should really stick to people solving their cube once, and not really "teaching it", or expect them to be able to solve it on their own. I will hand out a version of Jasmine's or my own simple solotion. This afternoon there will be a local TV interview about the workshop. Any tips about what to do/say in the interview is also appreciated. It's probably going to be quite brief. Michiel
2779. Re: Workshop and television interview
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:14:03 -0000

If they ask: "Who is the best cuber in the world?" respond: "Richard Patterson, and he's looking for sponsors." --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > This weekend we're doing a Rubik's cube workshop for anyone interested > on Aruba (I know most of you are not living on Aruba LOL). > > Anyway, I wanted to ask people who have done such a thing before for > some pointers. We are having a maximum of 14 people, and I have no > idea who is going to show up. It's going to be part of a day of > events, and there might be kids and grown ups together. Since I don't > have that many cubes we also asked anyone to bring a cube if they have > one. > > The workshop is only half an hour, so I guess I should really stick to > people solving their cube once, and not really "teaching it", or > expect them to be able to solve it on their own. I will hand out a > version of Jasmine's or my own simple solotion. > > This afternoon there will be a local TV interview about the workshop. > Any tips about what to do/say in the interview is also appreciated. > It's probably going to be quite brief. > > Michiel >
2780. Re: improving intuitive F2L
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:16:41 -0000

If I can count 180 degree turns as well...I would say I average 29-30 turns for the f2l. -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I'm working on my intuitive F2L right now and can usually solve the F2L in between 35-60 seconds (i know, a broad range). I have a list of the algs, and I have deconstructed them and learned new techniques from them.. however, since they are optimized, there are some cases which are simply not intuitive. > > Has someone made a site which shows exactly how a good cubist would solve difficult cases intuitively? > > I don't want to memorize these algs, so how should I deal with these cases? I can certainly solve them, but it's slow. In some of these cases, I think it might be faster/easier to use the newbie method, solving the corner first and using an 8-move alg to insert the edge. Is that a good way of dealing with these cases? > > In general, after understanding the basics of intuitive F2L, how do I improve? (besides practice, practice, practice). Are there more advanced techniques? > > David > > ps--how many moves (90 degree) does it take you guys to solve the F2L (not including cross)? > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2781. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:17:00 +0000 (GMT)

Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I posted some photos of the event here: > > http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > > think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > > > I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's almost- > > tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but he > > completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only > got > > the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when I > > get back home. > > > > As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official competition, > > so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized event. > > Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > > > Chris Pelley > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > > record? > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > > > > > > > Congratz Leyan > > > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > > > varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > > Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > > > > > > Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > > Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > > > games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2782. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:26:06 -0800

Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right N-permutation. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and > Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> I posted some photos of the event here: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy >> >> Chris >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley >> <no_reply@> wrote: >>> >>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I >>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. >>> >>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > almost- >>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > he >>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only >> got >>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when > I >>> get back home. >>> >>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > competition, >>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > event. >>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. >>> >>> Chris Pelley >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree >>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 >>> record? >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro >>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha >>>>> >>>>> Congratz Leyan >>>>> >>>>> Pedro >>>>> >>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 >>>>> >>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo >>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick >>>>> >>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games >>> Educational >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle >>>> games >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>> >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms >> of >>>> Service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2783. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:27:35 -0000

LoL...maybe you should remember??? Hehehe...its fine, you'll beat it sometime Tyson...and when can I talk to you one on one about BLD??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right > N-permutation. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and > > Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > >> > >> I posted some photos of the event here: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > >> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > >>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > >>> > >>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > > almost- > >>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > > he > >>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only > >> got > >>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when > > I > >>> get back home. > >>> > >>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > > competition, > >>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > > event. > >>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > >>> > >>> Chris Pelley > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > >>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > >>> record? > >>>> > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > >>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > >>>>> > >>>>> Congratz Leyan > >>>>> > >>>>> Pedro > >>>>> > >>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > >>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > >>>>> > >>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > >>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > >>>>> > >>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > >>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > >>> Educational > >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > Puzzle > >>>> games > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > >>>>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >>>>> > >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > >> of > >>>> Service. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > >>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2784. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:35:59 -0300 (ART)

Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very slowly to make sure it's correct... and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right N-permutation. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and > Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> I posted some photos of the event here: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy >> >> Chris >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley >> <no_reply@> wrote: >>> >>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I >>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. >>> >>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > almost- >>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > he >>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only >> got >>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when > I >>> get back home. >>> >>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > competition, >>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > event. >>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. >>> >>> Chris Pelley >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree >>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 >>> record? >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro >>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha >>>>> >>>>> Congratz Leyan >>>>> >>>>> Pedro >>>>> >>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 >>>>> >>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo >>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick >>>>> >>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games >>> Educational >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle >>>> games >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>> >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms >> of >>>> Service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Search Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2785. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:37:36 -0800

I dunno, depends what type of questions you have. If it's something involved, you might as well do it via e-mail so I have a chance to think about it. The worst thing about BLD competitions is if you have this amazing fail, it still shows up as DNF. Without being arrogant, I really have to post this picture, just for my own emotional release, because it was *that* close. http://photos-n-00.facebook.com/n14/78/78/1113600018/ n1113600018_30013456_4843.jpg Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > LoL...maybe you should remember??? Hehehe...its fine, you'll beat it > sometime Tyson...and when can I talk to you one on one about BLD??? > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right >> N-permutation. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: >> >>> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other > guy...pfff...and >>> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha >>> >>> Pedro >>> >>> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley >>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I posted some photos of the event here: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I >>>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. >>>>> >>>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's >>> almost- >>>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but >>> he >>>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only >>>> got >>>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when >>> I >>>>> get back home. >>>>> >>>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official >>> competition, >>>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized >>> event. >>>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. >>>>> >>>>> Chris Pelley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree >>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 >>>>> record? >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro >>>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Congratz Leyan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pedro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo >>>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games >>>>> Educational >>>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game >>> Puzzle >>>>>> games >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms >>>> of >>>>>> Service. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>>>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SPONSORED LINKS >>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational >>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>> >>> >>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >>> Service. >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2786. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:39:35 -0800

If you do it slow, the clock ticks past 1:28. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Pedro wrote: > Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very slowly to > make sure it's correct... > > and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right > N-permutation. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > >> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and >> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha >> >> Pedro >> >> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx >> >> Chris >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley >> <no_reply@...> wrote: >>> >>> I posted some photos of the event here: >>> >>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley >>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I >>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. >>>> >>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's >> almost- >>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but >> he >>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only >>> got >>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when >> I >>>> get back home. >>>> >>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official >> competition, >>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized >> event. >>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. >>>> >>>> Chris Pelley >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 >>>> record? >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro >>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha >>>>>> >>>>>> Congratz Leyan >>>>>> >>>>>> Pedro >>>>>> >>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 >>>>>> >>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo >>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick >>>>>> >>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games >>>> Educational >>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game >> Puzzle >>>>> games >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms >>> of >>>>> Service. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >>>>>> >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational >> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games >> >> --------------------------------- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> Service. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Search > Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2787. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:07:38 +0100

that would motivate me :-) Nice idea ;-) Gilles. 2006/3/13, Frank Morris <ephem825@...>: > I'm game > > cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Count me in as well. > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> > wrote: > > > > Count me in too. I am so happy, I bought a new DIY from Rubik's and > > some extra stickers for durability. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > > > This would motivate me to practice, so I'm in. > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2788. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:16:30 -0000

Well Tyson at least you know that breaking that record is not unattainable -- you'll have plenty more chances. Would that 1:27 be a personal best had it been correct? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > If you do it slow, the clock ticks past 1:28. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very slowly to > > make sure it's correct... > > > > and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... > > > > Pedro > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > > Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right > > N-permutation. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > >> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and > >> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > >> > >> Pedro > >> > >> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > >> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > >> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>> I posted some photos of the event here: > >>> > >>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > >>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > >>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > >>>> > >>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > >> almost- > >>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > >> he > >>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only > >>> got > >>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when > >> I > >>>> get back home. > >>>> > >>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > >> competition, > >>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > >> event. > >>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > >>>> > >>>> Chris Pelley > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > >>>> record? > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > >>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Congratz Leyan > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Pedro > >>>>>> > >>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > >>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > >>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > >>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > >>>> Educational > >>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > >> Puzzle > >>>>> games > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>>> YAHOO! 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2789. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:23:50 -0800

Yes, my personal best is 1:29. Strangely, the 1:29 felt way faster than 1:27 DNF. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:16 AM, kyuubree wrote: > Well Tyson at least you know that breaking that record is not > unattainable -- you'll have plenty more chances. Would that 1:27 be > a personal best had it been correct? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> If you do it slow, the clock ticks past 1:28. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Pedro wrote: >> >>> Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very > slowly to >>> make sure it's correct... >>> >>> and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... >>> >>> Pedro >>> >>> Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: >>> Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right >>> N-permutation. >>> >>> Tyson Mao >>> Astrophysics '06 >>> California Institute of Technology >>> >>> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other > guy...pfff...and >>>> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha >>>> >>>> Pedro >>>> >>>> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>>> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > christopher_pelley >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I posted some photos of the event here: >>>>> >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > christopher_pelley >>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were > over. I >>>>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's >>>> almost- >>>>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but >>>> he >>>>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I > only >>>>> got >>>>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips > when >>>> I >>>>>> get back home. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official >>>> competition, >>>>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized >>>> event. >>>>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris Pelley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree >>>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 >>>>>> record? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro >>>>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Congratz Leyan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pedro >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: >>>>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games >>>>>> Educational >>>>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game >>>> Puzzle >>>>>>> games >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>>>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms >>>>> of >>>>>>> Service. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis >>>>>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> YAHOO! 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2790. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:30:42 -0000

What is your general approach for memorizing/executing CO? I have issues with bad CO cases --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Yes, my personal best is 1:29. Strangely, the 1:29 felt way faster > than 1:27 DNF. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:16 AM, kyuubree wrote: > > > Well Tyson at least you know that breaking that record is not > > unattainable -- you'll have plenty more chances. Would that 1:27 be > > a personal best had it been correct? > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > >> > >> If you do it slow, the clock ticks past 1:28. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Pedro wrote: > >> > >>> Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very > > slowly to > >>> make sure it's correct... > >>> > >>> and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... > >>> > >>> Pedro > >>> > >>> Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > >>> Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right > >>> N-permutation. > >>> > >>> Tyson Mao > >>> Astrophysics '06 > >>> California Institute of Technology > >>> > >>> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > >>> > >>>> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other > > guy...pfff...and > >>>> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > >>>> > >>>> Pedro > >>>> > >>>> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > >>>> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > >>>> > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > >>>> > >>>> Chris > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > christopher_pelley > >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I posted some photos of the event here: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > >>>>> > >>>>> Chris > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > christopher_pelley > >>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were > > over. I > >>>>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > >>>> almost- > >>>>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > >>>> he > >>>>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I > > only > >>>>> got > >>>>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips > > when > >>>> I > >>>>>> get back home. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > >>>> competition, > >>>>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > >>>> event. > >>>>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Chris Pelley > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > >>>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > >>>>>> record? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > >>>>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Congratz Leyan > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Pedro > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > >>>>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > >>>>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > >>>>>> Educational > >>>>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > >>>> Puzzle > >>>>>>> games > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> YAHOO! 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2791. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:02:49 -0000

I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do I have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't know what else to use... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > What is your general approach for memorizing/executing CO? I have > issues with bad CO cases > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > Yes, my personal best is 1:29. Strangely, the 1:29 felt way > faster > > than 1:27 DNF. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:16 AM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > Well Tyson at least you know that breaking that record is not > > > unattainable -- you'll have plenty more chances. Would that > 1:27 be > > > a personal best had it been correct? > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> If you do it slow, the clock ticks past 1:28. > > >> > > >> Tyson Mao > > >> Astrophysics '06 > > >> California Institute of Technology > > >> > > >> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Pedro wrote: > > >> > > >>> Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very > > > slowly to > > >>> make sure it's correct... > > >>> > > >>> and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... > > >>> > > >>> Pedro > > >>> > > >>> Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > > >>> Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the > right > > >>> N-permutation. > > >>> > > >>> Tyson Mao > > >>> Astrophysics '06 > > >>> California Institute of Technology > > >>> > > >>> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other > > > guy...pfff...and > > >>>> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > >>>> > > >>>> Pedro > > >>>> > > >>>> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > >>>> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > >>>> > > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > >>>> > > >>>> Chris > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > christopher_pelley > > >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I posted some photos of the event here: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Chris > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > christopher_pelley > > >>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were > > > over. I > > >>>>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > > >>>> almost- > > >>>>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, > but > > >>>> he > > >>>>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I > > > only > > >>>>> got > > >>>>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips > > > when > > >>>> I > > >>>>>> get back home. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > > >>>> competition, > > >>>>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > > >>>> event. > > >>>>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Chris Pelley > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > >>>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the > 4x4 > > >>>>>> record? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > >>>>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Congratz Leyan > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Pedro > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > >>>>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > > >>>>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > >>>>>> Educational > > >>>>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > >>>> Puzzle > > >>>>>>> games > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >>>>>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms > > >>>>> of > > >>>>>>> Service. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > >>>>>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> SPONSORED LINKS > > >>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > > Educational > > >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle > > > games > > >>>> > > >>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > >>>> > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>> > > >>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of > > >>>> Service. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > >>>> Internet rápida e grátis. 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2792. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:14:52 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do I > have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't know > what else to use... > > Craig You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing her. Cheers! Stefan
2793. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:18:44 -0000

I actually tried this once on her own dare. Didn't get far much. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > > cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do > I > > have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > > one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't > know > > what else to use... > > > > Craig > > You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like > it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing her. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2794. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:31:15 -0000

Wow stefan, you really do think of everything don't you...I checked out your M2 method, and it seems cool, but difficult to master... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > > cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do > I > > have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > > one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't > know > > what else to use... > > > > Craig > > You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like > it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing her. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2795. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:31:38 -0000

And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > > cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do > I > > have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > > one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't > know > > what else to use... > > > > Craig > > You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like > it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing her. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2796. Fix Magic
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:33:20 -0600

Okay, so I'm trying to fix my magic. I used the one on www.twistypuzzles.com , but it ends up being not strong enough and breaks really, really easily. Can anyone help me out on fixing this? -- -cubekid
2797. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:34:09 -0800

And typing on Rubik's Cube forums is the premiere way to remedy that. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 13, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > Craig > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" >> <logitewty@> wrote: >>> >>> I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to >>> cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do >> I >>> have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want >>> one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't >> know >>> what else to use... >>> >>> Craig >> >> You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like >> it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing her. >> >> Cheers! >> Stefan >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2798. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:42:11 -0000

http://tinyurl.com/or69m I think they sell these at some drugstores, too. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do I > have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't know > what else to use... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > What is your general approach for memorizing/executing CO? I have > > issues with bad CO cases > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Yes, my personal best is 1:29. Strangely, the 1:29 felt way > > faster > > > than 1:27 DNF. > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 11:16 AM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > Well Tyson at least you know that breaking that record is not > > > > unattainable -- you'll have plenty more chances. Would that > > 1:27 be > > > > a personal best had it been correct? > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> If you do it slow, the clock ticks past 1:28. > > > >> > > > >> Tyson Mao > > > >> Astrophysics '06 > > > >> California Institute of Technology > > > >> > > > >> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Haha...no...when I do the N-perm on bld solves, I do it very > > > > slowly to > > > >>> make sure it's correct... > > > >>> > > > >>> and the scrambles? we (well, at least me) are waiting... > > > >>> > > > >>> Pedro > > > >>> > > > >>> Tyson Mao <tmao@> escreveu: > > > >>> Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the > > right > > > >>> N-permutation. > > > >>> > > > >>> Tyson Mao > > > >>> Astrophysics '06 > > > >>> California Institute of Technology > > > >>> > > > >>> On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other > > > > guy...pfff...and > > > >>>> Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Pedro > > > >>>> > > > >>>> christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > >>>> Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Chris > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > > christopher_pelley > > > >>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> I posted some photos of the event here: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Chris > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > > > christopher_pelley > > > >>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were > > > > over. I > > > >>>>>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > > > >>>> almost- > > > >>>>>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, > > but > > > >>>> he > > > >>>>>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I > > > > only > > > >>>>> got > > > >>>>>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips > > > > when > > > >>>> I > > > >>>>>> get back home. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > > > >>>> competition, > > > >>>>>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well- organized > > > >>>> event. > > > >>>>>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Chris Pelley > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > > >>>>>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the > > 4x4 > > > >>>>>> record? > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > > >>>>>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Congratz Leyan > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Pedro > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > >>>>>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > > >>>>>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > > > >>>>>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > > >>>>>> Educational > > > >>>>>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > > >>>> Puzzle > > > >>>>>>> games > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > >>>>>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > > Terms > > > >>>>> of > > > >>>>>>> Service. > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------- > > > >>>>>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > >>>>>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > >>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> SPONSORED LINKS > > > >>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > > > Educational > > > >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > Puzzle > > > > games > > > >>>> > > > >>>> --------------------------------- > > > >>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > >>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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2799. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:45:50 -0000

Yah, well... I made this joke... Rubik's Cubes are like STDs, once you have them, you can't get a girlfriend... And then I said, you know, there are actually 2 types of girls...The ones explained above, and the ones that think its amazing are like...MARRY ME!!! Then I was like, just imagine, the perfect person, she is a GIRL and she can solve Cube...and if she can do it sub-30 sweet...sub-20...not fair shes faster than me...sub-15...i don't want to go near her...she's more obsessed than me...sub-12, no comment... Hehehe...I'm so bored...march break can do that to you... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > And typing on Rubik's Cube forums is the premiere way to remedy that. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > > > Craig > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > >> <logitewty@> wrote: > >>> > >>> I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > >>> cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do > >> I > >>> have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > >>> one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't > >> know > >>> what else to use... > >>> > >>> Craig > >> > >> You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like > >> it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing her. > >> > >> Cheers! > >> Stefan > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2800. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:46:33 -0000

Don't take that post too seriously, I was bored and joking around with someone...so... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Yah, well... > > I made this joke... > > Rubik's Cubes are like STDs, once you have them, you can't get a > girlfriend... > > And then I said, you know, there are actually 2 types of girls...The > ones explained above, and the ones that think its amazing are > like...MARRY ME!!! > > Then I was like, just imagine, the perfect person, she is a GIRL and > she can solve Cube...and if she can do it sub-30 sweet...sub-20...not > fair shes faster than me...sub-15...i don't want to go near > her...she's more obsessed than me...sub-12, no comment... > > Hehehe...I'm so bored...march break can do that to you... > > Craig
2801. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:30:55 -0000

Hehehe mine thought it was cool. She wanted to learn and she could solve it under a minute or so, but that was about it and she stopped messing around with the cube, really. But no, a Rubik's Cube is not a girl-repellant, haha. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Yah, well... > > I made this joke... > > Rubik's Cubes are like STDs, once you have them, you can't get a > girlfriend... > > And then I said, you know, there are actually 2 types of girls...The > ones explained above, and the ones that think its amazing are > like...MARRY ME!!! > > Then I was like, just imagine, the perfect person, she is a GIRL and > she can solve Cube...and if she can do it sub-30 sweet...sub- 20...not > fair shes faster than me...sub-15...i don't want to go near > her...she's more obsessed than me...sub-12, no comment... > > Hehehe...I'm so bored...march break can do that to you... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > And typing on Rubik's Cube forums is the premiere way to remedy that. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > >> > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > >> <logitewty@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you use to > > >>> cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in competition??? Do > > >> I > > >>> have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? I want > > >>> one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I don't > > >> know > > >>> what else to use... > > >>> > > >>> Craig > > >> > > >> You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not like > > >> it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing > her. > > >> > > >> Cheers! > > >> Stefan > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2802. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:48:59 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... You could also use your mother. Cheers! Stefan
2803. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:50:08 -0000

Ewww, and no... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > You could also use your mother. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2804. Re: [Speed cubing group] distractions
From: "Parth Upadhyay" <parth.upadhyay@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:46:04 -0600

too bad i dont have facebook. not old enough. distractions?? have you heard the song? by Greg Pac (Klutz) http://klutz.vgmidi.com/music.php great site cya [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2805. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: improving intuitive F2L
From: "Parth Upadhyay" <parth.upadhyay@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:42 -0600

i learned intuitive f2l too, and like i think the best way to get faster is to just practic (tho im not anywhere near fast). and also, sometimes just sit down with the cube, and look at it. try to find a new way to solve that position. try out new things, different ways to solve the same positions. this will often improve your current method of solving a certain case or even spur a new idea, that helps later. i dunno how many moves i avg, but i average like somewhere around 18 seconds or so for f2l. good luck :-) -parth [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2806. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:30 -0000

My boyfriend once kissed me mid-solve in an attempt to get my eyes off the cube. I think he was jealous... Shelley --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hehehe mine thought it was cool. She wanted to learn and she could > solve it under a minute or so, but that was about it and she stopped > messing around with the cube, really. But no, a Rubik's Cube is not > a girl-repellant, haha. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Yah, well... > > > > I made this joke... > > > > Rubik's Cubes are like STDs, once you have them, you can't get a > > girlfriend... > > > > And then I said, you know, there are actually 2 types of > girls...The > > ones explained above, and the ones that think its amazing are > > like...MARRY ME!!! > > > > Then I was like, just imagine, the perfect person, she is a GIRL > and > > she can solve Cube...and if she can do it sub-30 sweet...sub- > 20...not > > fair shes faster than me...sub-15...i don't want to go near > > her...she's more obsessed than me...sub-12, no comment... > > > > Hehehe...I'm so bored...march break can do that to you... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > > > And typing on Rubik's Cube forums is the premiere way to remedy > that. > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 1:31 PM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > > > > > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan > Pochmann" > > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig > Bouchard" > > > >> <logitewty@> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I was just wondering, is there a set standard as to what you > use to > > > >>> cover your eyes when you are doing a BLD solve in > competition??? Do > > > >> I > > > >>> have to go to a sex shop and buy one of those blindfolds??? > I want > > > >>> one, but for now I am using a bandana to cover my eyes...I > don't > > > >> know > > > >>> what else to use... > > > >>> > > > >>> Craig > > > >> > > > >> You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might > not like > > > >> it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while > kissing > > her. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers! > > > >> Stefan > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2807. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:28:39 -0600

Did it work? -Mike On 3/13/06, aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > My boyfriend once kissed me mid-solve in an attempt to get my eyes off > the cube. I think he was jealous... > > Shelley [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2808. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:08:53 +1100

On Sun, Mar 12, 2006 at 08:34:52PM -0000, Craig Bouchard wrote: > I would run it sort of like Chris did, with some minor differences. Hi Craig, Will you run with the standard format (i.e. "best of three") or, if there are minor differences, what kind of differences do you have in mind? Thanks, Ryan
2809. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:19:16 -0000

Hey Ryan, and everyone else, I posted a few days ago about this. I am looking into starting the Weekly (Sunday) Blindfold Contest again. Chris Hardwick used to run this, and I am looking to take it off his hands, and reopen it. I have 2 options, and I am just wondering which you would prefer. I am going to use an automated system to create the results tables. This is for the 3x3 "competition." Option 1: Like in an Official Competition. Do 3 solves (or just one and say the others are DNS)and your Best of the 3 is what determines your rank, and therefore the winner, for the week. Option 2: Each scramble is its own "competition." Whoever comes in first place in Scramble 1 will be awarded n points, second place, x points, third place y points, and so on... Scramble 2 will be awarded points the same way. Scramble 3 the same as well. The Winner for the week would be the one with the highest total number of points. I am just asking because I want to know which of the two people would prefer. Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? And which of the 2 options would you like more??? I was leaning towards Option 2, but I've heard from others to go for Option 1, and so I am asking you, the Blindfold community, which you would prefer. Also, I could set it up to determine the winner for the year, and have some kind of prize (of course thats long term...), and I need to get the contest up and running first. Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the cube be with you...
2810. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:22:50 -0500

I vote for option 1. -Anthony Hsu
2811. cube dragon speaks
From: "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:09:41 -0000

hey guys! I just finished my first 11x11 my 3x3 time bites though 42 and dropping
2812. Looking for some help
From: "scotty623398" <scotty623398@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:25:13 -0000

Hello, Just trying to find some methods to drop my time down... I am still over i minute and have looked at alot of the methods online but dont understand the way things are worded and some of the concepts.... I learn better with someone showing me and someone that i can ask questions and get an answer... I am solving by layers and my first layer time is usually what hurts the most... although there must be faster ways to do it .... unless the only faster ways are to learn all those different moves for what pattern may be on the cube at that time... is that the case????
2813. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:47:38 -0800

I would prefer option 1 -Chris On 3/13/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hey Ryan, and everyone else, > > I posted a few days ago about this. > > I am looking into starting the Weekly (Sunday) Blindfold Contest > again. Chris Hardwick used to run this, and I am looking to take it > off his hands, and reopen it. > > I have 2 options, and I am just wondering which you would prefer. I > am going to use an automated system to create the results tables. > This is for the 3x3 "competition." > > Option 1: > Like in an Official Competition. > > Do 3 solves (or just one and say the others are DNS)and your Best of > the 3 is what determines your rank, and therefore the winner, for the > week. > > Option 2: > Each scramble is its own "competition." Whoever comes in first place > in Scramble 1 will be awarded n points, second place, x points, third > place y points, and so on... > Scramble 2 will be awarded points the same way. > Scramble 3 the same as well. > > The Winner for the week would be the one with the highest total number > of points. > > I am just asking because I want to know which of the two people would > prefer. > > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? And which of the > 2 options would you like more??? I was leaning towards Option 2, but > I've heard from others to go for Option 1, and so I am asking you, the > Blindfold community, which you would prefer. > > Also, I could set it up to determine the winner for the year, and have > some kind of prize (of course thats long term...), and I need to get > the contest up and running first. > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > May the cube be with you... > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2814. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:08:00 -0800

I'm going to modify my vote... I now prefer option 2. -Chris On 3/13/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: > I would prefer option 1 > > -Chris > > On 3/13/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey Ryan, and everyone else, > > > > I posted a few days ago about this. > > > > I am looking into starting the Weekly (Sunday) Blindfold Contest > > again. Chris Hardwick used to run this, and I am looking to take it > > off his hands, and reopen it. > > > > I have 2 options, and I am just wondering which you would prefer. I > > am going to use an automated system to create the results tables. > > This is for the 3x3 "competition." > > > > Option 1: > > Like in an Official Competition. > > > > Do 3 solves (or just one and say the others are DNS)and your Best of > > the 3 is what determines your rank, and therefore the winner, for the > > week. > > > > Option 2: > > Each scramble is its own "competition." Whoever comes in first place > > in Scramble 1 will be awarded n points, second place, x points, third > > place y points, and so on... > > Scramble 2 will be awarded points the same way. > > Scramble 3 the same as well. > > > > The Winner for the week would be the one with the highest total number > > of points. > > > > I am just asking because I want to know which of the two people would > > prefer. > > > > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? And which of the > > 2 options would you like more??? I was leaning towards Option 2, but > > I've heard from others to go for Option 1, and so I am asking you, the > > Blindfold community, which you would prefer. > > > > Also, I could set it up to determine the winner for the year, and have > > some kind of prize (of course thats long term...), and I need to get > > the contest up and running first. > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > Craig Bouchard > > May the cube be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2815. Re: [Speed cubing group] Looking for some help
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:10:18 -0800 (PST)

I'm no expert.. probably not better than you. But, it sounds like you are solving the first two layers seperately. If this is the case, and your last layer is fast, you should prolly learn to solve the first two layers simultaneously using corner-edge pairs. The site that worked for me was: http://www.snkenjoi.com/wikicube/mediawiki-1.5.3/index.php?title=Intuitive_F2L I'm still learning this, and a good F2L time for me is 30 seconds... but, it is the method that most of the sweet cubists here use, and it's possible to solve the F2L in 10 seconds w/ this method. Use a list of F2L algorithms to help you learn how to do them intuitively. David scotty623398 <scotty623398@...> wrote: Hello, Just trying to find some methods to drop my time down... I am still over i minute and have looked at alot of the methods online but dont understand the way things are worded and some of the concepts.... I learn better with someone showing me and someone that i can ask questions and get an answer... I am solving by layers and my first layer time is usually what hurts the most... although there must be faster ways to do it .... unless the only faster ways are to learn all those different moves for what pattern may be on the cube at that time... is that the case???? SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2816. Re: 2 world records today (BLD practice)
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:12:12 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > Craig Hmm... have you seen the February entry in Stefan's diary? http://www.stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/ Now we know why he's gone hunting. Mike
2817. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: Ryan Heise <rheise@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:38:12 +1100

On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:19:16AM -0000, Craig Bouchard wrote: > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? How do you then rank the results? Does someone who solves the 2x2x2 in 1:30 beat someone who solves the 3x3x3 in 1:40? Ryan
2818. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (BLD practice)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:53:08 +0100

What´s "it"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 world records today (BLD practice) > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@...> wrote: > > > > And btw, I'd need a girlfriend to begin with... > > > > Craig > > Hmm... have you seen the February entry in Stefan's diary? > > http://www.stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/ > > Now we know why he's gone hunting. > > Mike > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2819. Re: 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: thewetdog <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:10:44 -0000

--- kyuubree wrote:> > I actually tried this once on her own dare. Didn't get far much. > --- "Stefan Pochmann" wrote: > > You could use your girlfriend. Just cube quietly, she might not > like > > it when she finds out you're cubing behind her back while kissing > her. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > Do you mean with the solve, or with the girl? -Dave Campbell
2820. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:24:05 -0000

Hey Ryan, No, the results would be in the same table, but grouped together for that specific puzzle. There wouldn't be a first place, second place, and such. Well, technically there would, but for the Open Division there is no "winner," it is more friendly competition to see who beats who. Of course if one of the puzzles in the Open Division becomes popular enough I can make a new Division just for that puzzle. Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <rheise@...> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 14, 2006 at 02:19:16AM -0000, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? > > How do you then rank the results? Does someone who solves the 2x2x2 in > 1:30 beat someone who solves the 3x3x3 in 1:40? > > Ryan >
2821. New OLL algorithm (?)
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:16:16 -0000

Hey guys, I dont know if this is new, but I've been playing with a new OLL algorithm... Actually, it's a commutator that was shown to me by Per, but I optimized it for my hands, and found out that it can be done quite fast. z' (U' R U2 r' U) L2 (U' r U2 R' U) L2 z The last L2 is just to make it a commutator... I speedcubing it's not needed. One of the nice things about using this as an OLL is that for people that recognise the PLL with blocks, is that you can see where parts of a block will occur even before starting OLL, and also during OLL. You can also use the alg to create some funny patters with stripes btw :D. Well, I hope someone like this... Happy cubing, Joël.
2822. Re: [Speed cubing group] New OLL algorithm (?)
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:34:18 -0600

sweeet. i like this alg. now to practice it a billion times and get good at it. On 3/14/06, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > Hey guys, > > I dont know if this is new, but I've been playing with a new OLL > algorithm... Actually, it's a commutator that was shown to me by Per, > but I optimized it for my hands, and found out that it can be done > quite fast. > > z' (U' R U2 r' U) L2 (U' r U2 R' U) L2 z > > The last L2 is just to make it a commutator... I speedcubing it's not > needed. One of the nice things about using this as an OLL is that for > people that recognise the PLL with blocks, is that you can see where > parts of a block will occur even before starting OLL, and also during > OLL. You can also use the alg to create some funny patters with > stripes btw :D. > > Well, I hope someone like this... > > Happy cubing, > > Joël. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
2823. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:17:49 -0300 (ART)

I vote for option 2...it looks like more competitive, like F1...hehe Pedro Chris Hunt <huntca@...> escreveu: I'm going to modify my vote... I now prefer option 2. -Chris On 3/13/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@gmail.com> wrote: > I would prefer option 1 > > -Chris > > On 3/13/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey Ryan, and everyone else, > > > > I posted a few days ago about this. > > > > I am looking into starting the Weekly (Sunday) Blindfold Contest > > again. Chris Hardwick used to run this, and I am looking to take it > > off his hands, and reopen it. > > > > I have 2 options, and I am just wondering which you would prefer. I > > am going to use an automated system to create the results tables. > > This is for the 3x3 "competition." > > > > Option 1: > > Like in an Official Competition. > > > > Do 3 solves (or just one and say the others are DNS)and your Best of > > the 3 is what determines your rank, and therefore the winner, for the > > week. > > > > Option 2: > > Each scramble is its own "competition." Whoever comes in first place > > in Scramble 1 will be awarded n points, second place, x points, third > > place y points, and so on... > > Scramble 2 will be awarded points the same way. > > Scramble 3 the same as well. > > > > The Winner for the week would be the one with the highest total number > > of points. > > > > I am just asking because I want to know which of the two people would > > prefer. > > > > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? And which of the > > 2 options would you like more??? I was leaning towards Option 2, but > > I've heard from others to go for Option 1, and so I am asking you, the > > Blindfold community, which you would prefer. > > > > Also, I could set it up to determine the winner for the year, and have > > some kind of prize (of course thats long term...), and I need to get > > the contest up and running first. > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > Craig Bouchard > > May the cube be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2824. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:30:44 -0000

I like option 2 as well. That way accuracy is taken into account as well as speed. Shelley --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > I vote for option 2...it looks like more competitive, like F1...hehe > > Pedro > > Chris Hunt <huntca@...> escreveu: > I'm going to modify my vote... > > I now prefer option 2. > > -Chris > > On 3/13/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: > > I would prefer option 1 > > > > -Chris > > > > On 3/13/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > > > Hey Ryan, and everyone else, > > > > > > I posted a few days ago about this. > > > > > > I am looking into starting the Weekly (Sunday) Blindfold Contest > > > again. Chris Hardwick used to run this, and I am looking to take it > > > off his hands, and reopen it. > > > > > > I have 2 options, and I am just wondering which you would prefer. I > > > am going to use an automated system to create the results tables. > > > This is for the 3x3 "competition." > > > > > > Option 1: > > > Like in an Official Competition. > > > > > > Do 3 solves (or just one and say the others are DNS)and your Best of > > > the 3 is what determines your rank, and therefore the winner, for the > > > week. > > > > > > Option 2: > > > Each scramble is its own "competition." Whoever comes in first place > > > in Scramble 1 will be awarded n points, second place, x points, third > > > place y points, and so on... > > > Scramble 2 will be awarded points the same way. > > > Scramble 3 the same as well. > > > > > > The Winner for the week would be the one with the highest total number > > > of points. > > > > > > I am just asking because I want to know which of the two people would > > > prefer. > > > > > > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > > > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > > > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > > > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? And which of the > > > 2 options would you like more??? I was leaning towards Option 2, but > > > I've heard from others to go for Option 1, and so I am asking you, the > > > Blindfold community, which you would prefer. > > > > > > Also, I could set it up to determine the winner for the year, and have > > > some kind of prize (of course thats long term...), and I need to get > > > the contest up and running first. > > > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > > > Craig Bouchard > > > May the cube be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2825. Re: [Speed cubing group] I'm Just Counting Numbers...
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:17:25 -0000

And that way Tyson and Leyan can't do 1 solve and walk away with the win :p Hehehe, of course they would never do that... Thank you for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the Cube be with you... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, aznseashell <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I like option 2 as well. That way accuracy is taken into account as > well as speed. > > Shelley > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@> > wrote: > > > > I vote for option 2...it looks like more competitive, like F1...hehe > > > > Pedro > > > > Chris Hunt <huntca@> escreveu: > > I'm going to modify my vote... > > > > I now prefer option 2. > > > > -Chris > > > > On 3/13/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@> wrote: > > > I would prefer option 1 > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > On 3/13/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Hey Ryan, and everyone else, > > > > > > > > I posted a few days ago about this. > > > > > > > > I am looking into starting the Weekly (Sunday) Blindfold Contest > > > > again. Chris Hardwick used to run this, and I am looking to take it > > > > off his hands, and reopen it. > > > > > > > > I have 2 options, and I am just wondering which you would prefer. I > > > > am going to use an automated system to create the results tables. > > > > This is for the 3x3 "competition." > > > > > > > > Option 1: > > > > Like in an Official Competition. > > > > > > > > Do 3 solves (or just one and say the others are DNS)and your Best of > > > > the 3 is what determines your rank, and therefore the winner, > for the > > > > week. > > > > > > > > Option 2: > > > > Each scramble is its own "competition." Whoever comes in first > place > > > > in Scramble 1 will be awarded n points, second place, x points, > third > > > > place y points, and so on... > > > > Scramble 2 will be awarded points the same way. > > > > Scramble 3 the same as well. > > > > > > > > The Winner for the week would be the one with the highest total > number > > > > of points. > > > > > > > > I am just asking because I want to know which of the two people > would > > > > prefer. > > > > > > > > Also, I am thinking of having an Open Division where you can do any > > > > puzzle that you want (cube size or other puzzle) and input the time. > > > > You would only do 1 scramble per week for the Open Division per > > > > puzzle. Does this sound reasonable for everyone??? And which > of the > > > > 2 options would you like more??? I was leaning towards Option 2, but > > > > I've heard from others to go for Option 1, and so I am asking > you, the > > > > Blindfold community, which you would prefer. > > > > > > > > Also, I could set it up to determine the winner for the year, > and have > > > > some kind of prize (of course thats long term...), and I need to get > > > > the contest up and running first. > > > > > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > > > > > Craig Bouchard > > > > May the cube be with you... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2826. The DIY cubes + lube
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:46:26 -0000

I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers and lube. Is the lube any good?
2827. 11x11
From: "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:17:30 -0000

i did a 11x11 yesterday! 3x3 time is only 42, it bites a lot
2828. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:23:08 -0000

It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way silicone feels. -Ben. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers and > lube. Is the lube any good? >
2829. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:42:45 -0000

You mean it is *not* silicone? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way silicone > feels. > > -Ben. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers and > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > >
2830. Re: Looking for some help
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:18:49 -0000

> Hello, Just trying to find some methods to drop my time down... I am > still over i minute and have looked at alot of the methods online[..] First, read the FAQ: http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/database? method=reportRows&tbl=26 If you still have specific problems you can email some of the 'masters'. Just look up anyone in the world record list on speedcubing.com and get in touch. I hear Craig Bouchard has some extra time left to answer questions ;-) Michiel
2831. Re: New OLL algorithm (?)
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:22:28 -0000

> z' (U' R U2 r' U) L2 (U' r U2 R' U) L2 z nice! Michiel
2832. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:31:30 -0000

How is it different? I just need a lube that will allow for fast speeds with little lockup of the cube. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way silicone > feels. > > -Ben. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers and > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > >
2833. A perm (or all LL?) on R
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:39:30 -0000

(U r) (l U L' U') (R U) (L U' L' R2 U') I'm solving F2L with cross on left. Have been thinking about doing LL with F2L still on left. Has anyone considered/examined that before? Cheers! Stefan
2834. Re: A perm (or all LL?) on R
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:43:26 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > (U r) (l U L' U') (R U) (L U' L' R2 U') > > I'm solving F2L with cross on left. Have been thinking about doing LL > with F2L still on left. Has anyone considered/examined that before? > > Cheers! > Stefan > Hahaha, of course it can also be done like this: (U R) (L U L' U') (R U) (L U' L' R2 U') Cheers! Stefan
2835. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:47:54 -0000

The Rubik's lube is good, and it even smells good. And I thought it was silicone, just a very liquidy suspension of it. It's so liquidy that you almost have to let it dry out for a while after lubing it. Personally I prefer heavy weight silicone oil, like Shock Oil in hobby stores. It's odorless and the cube can be used right away. But if you already have the Rubik's lube in hand, give it a shot. It's good stuff, and you can always try the silicone oil later. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > How is it different? I just need a lube that will allow for fast > speeds with little lockup of the cube. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@> > wrote: > > > > It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way > silicone > > feels. > > > > -Ben. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers and > > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > > > > >
2836. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:57:48 -0000

What other brands of lube do you all use and where could I find some online for a relatively cheap price? I am a poor college student, here ;-; --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > The Rubik's lube is good, and it even smells good. And I thought it > was silicone, just a very liquidy suspension of it. It's so liquidy > that you almost have to let it dry out for a while after lubing it. > > Personally I prefer heavy weight silicone oil, like Shock Oil in > hobby stores. It's odorless and the cube can be used right away. > > But if you already have the Rubik's lube in hand, give it a shot. > It's good stuff, and you can always try the silicone oil later. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > How is it different? I just need a lube that will allow for fast > > speeds with little lockup of the cube. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > <grsbmd@> > > wrote: > > > > > > It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way > > silicone > > > feels. > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers > and > > > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > > > > > > > > >
2837. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:08:46 -0800 (PST)

the rubik's cube lube, how do i apply it? could i just assemble the cube and seep the lube through the cracks or do i have to apply it to each one one by one? i use silicone lubricant spray but lately it seems like my cube is deteriorating from it even tho it says its safe on plastic --- kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > What other brands of lube do you all use and where > could I find some > online for a relatively cheap price? I am a poor > college student, > here ;-; > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > christopher_pelley > <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > The Rubik's lube is good, and it even smells good. > And I thought > it > > was silicone, just a very liquidy suspension of > it. It's so > liquidy > > that you almost have to let it dry out for a while > after lubing > it. > > > > Personally I prefer heavy weight silicone oil, > like Shock Oil in > > hobby stores. It's odorless and the cube can be > used right away. > > > > But if you already have the Rubik's lube in hand, > give it a shot. > > It's good stuff, and you can always try the > silicone oil later. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > kyuubree > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > How is it different? I just need a lube that > will allow for fast > > > speeds with little lockup of the cube. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "Ben King" > > <grsbmd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It's good, but it just feels completely > different than the way > > > silicone > > > > feels. > > > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > kyuubree > > <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it > comes with > stickers > > and > > > > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2838. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:15:11 -0000

I figured it was the lube that felt different. I guess it must be the white plastic... But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? -Ben. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > You mean it is *not* silicone? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@> > wrote: > > > > It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way > silicone > > feels. > > > > -Ben. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with stickers and > > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > > > > >
2839. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:19:44 -0000

Here's the video of Tyson's almost-WR for 3x3x3 bld: http://tinyurl.com/lhy89 Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right > N-permutation. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other guy...pfff...and > > Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > >> > >> I posted some photos of the event here: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > >> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. I > >>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > >>> > >>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > > almost- > >>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > > he > >>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I only > >> got > >>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips when > > I > >>> get back home. > >>> > >>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > > competition, > >>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > > event. > >>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > >>> > >>> Chris Pelley > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > >>> <no_reply@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > >>> record? > >>>> > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > >>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > >>>>> > >>>>> Congratz Leyan > >>>>> > >>>>> Pedro > >>>>> > >>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > >>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > >>>>> > >>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > >>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > >>>>> > >>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > >>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > >>> Educational > >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > Puzzle > >>>> games > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > >>>>> > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >>>>> > >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > >> of > >>>> Service. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------- > >>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > >>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2840. F2L numbers
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:20:35 -0000

Greetings. I've been starting to count the number of moves I utilize in solving the F2L. Counting 180 degree turns as 1 move, I'm averaging around 25- 29 moves for the F2L. Is this reasonable, or should I be at a lower amount and am missing some shortcuts? Thanks. Roger Wood
2841. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:21:00 -0000

Once again, silicone oil. A small bottle is only about $3 or $4 USD, and it will last for ages since you only need a drop or two at a time. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > What other brands of lube do you all use and where could I find some > online for a relatively cheap price? I am a poor college student, > here ;-; > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > The Rubik's lube is good, and it even smells good. And I thought > it > > was silicone, just a very liquidy suspension of it. It's so > liquidy > > that you almost have to let it dry out for a while after lubing > it. > > > > Personally I prefer heavy weight silicone oil, like Shock Oil in > > hobby stores. It's odorless and the cube can be used right away. > > > > But if you already have the Rubik's lube in hand, give it a shot. > > It's good stuff, and you can always try the silicone oil later. > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > How is it different? I just need a lube that will allow for fast > > > speeds with little lockup of the cube. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > > <grsbmd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It's good, but it just feels completely different than the way > > > silicone > > > > feels. > > > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I bought a DIY kit from Rubiks.com and it comes with > stickers > > and > > > > > lube. Is the lube any good? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2842. RE: [Speed cubing group] F2L numbers
From: "James Stuber" <jestuber@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:54:31 -0800

If you're counting the cross, that's amazing. If not, that's totally reasonable. _____ From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacie Wood Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:21 PM To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Speed cubing group] F2L numbers Greetings. I've been starting to count the number of moves I utilize in solving the F2L. Counting 180 degree turns as 1 move, I'm averaging around 25- 29 moves for the F2L. Is this reasonable, or should I be at a lower amount and am missing some shortcuts? Thanks. Roger Wood SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+gam e&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+g ame&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > puzzle game Free <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzl e+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puz zle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6 ReWEw> puzzle inlay games Educational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+p uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word +puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R 94IVKMFNQ> game and puzzle Word <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game& w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+gam e&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> puzzle game Kid <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w 2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game &w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> puzzle game Puzzle <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=F ree+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5 =Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> games _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscri be> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2843. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 world records today (Chattahoochee)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:52:48 -0000

The hug by Leyan makes it all better...Man poor Tyson...must have been a long ride home...And the end, where he's being annoyed...classic... Too bad, Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here's the video of Tyson's almost-WR for 3x3x3 bld: > > http://tinyurl.com/lhy89 > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > Practice. It's doable. Just don't be stupid and do the right > > N-permutation. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Mar 13, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Pedro wrote: > > > > > Thank you Chris! You're a good guy...but...that other > guy...pfff...and > > > Leyan is also a bad guy...how would I beat that record? haha > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > > Here is the video of Leyan's 3x3x3 blindfold record: > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/nv3vx > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > >> > > >> I posted some photos of the event here: > > >> > > >> http://tinyurl.com/pajhy > > >> > > >> Chris > > >> > > >> > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > christopher_pelley > > >> <no_reply@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Chris did try for 4x4x4 after all the other events were over. > I > > >>> think it ended in DNF, either that or they ran out of time. > > >>> > > >>> I got Leyan's 3x3x3 bld record on video, as well as Tyson's > > > almost- > > >>> tie. I also got some of Chris doing his 5x5x5 memorizing, but > > > he > > >>> completed the solve only moments after Leyan's record, so I > only > > >> got > > >>> the aftermath (lots of cheering!) on tape. I'll post clips > when > > > I > > >>> get back home. > > >>> > > >>> As for me, I got my first sub-30 solve in an official > > > competition, > > >>> so I was happy :) It was a small but very well-organized > > > event. > > >>> Leyan also won the 3x3x3 competition. > > >>> > > >>> Chris Pelley > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > > >>> <no_reply@> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Nice job, you two. Chris are you ever gonna try for the 4x4 > > >>> record? > > >>>> > > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > > >>>> <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Oh, no...now I'll never beat the 3x3x3 bld record...haha > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Congratz Leyan > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Pedro > > >>>>> > > >>>>> varkmaster2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > >>>>> Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Blindfolded 3x3 88sec Leyan Lo > > >>>>> Blindfolded 5x5 55mm Chris Hardwick > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Tyson Mao also had a great blindfolded 3x3 solve. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> SPONSORED LINKS > > >>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > >>> Educational > > >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > > > Puzzle > > >>>> games > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > >>>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > > >> of > > >>>> Service. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> --------------------------------- > > >>>>> Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > >>>>> Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2844. Anyone other new guys here that average about 1 minute?
From: broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:30:47 -0000

If you are new at this like me, and want to race, let me know. Send me an email to pjkcards[at]gmail.com. Thanks!
2845. Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:00:31 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > -Ben. That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither is it oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. Stefan
2846. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:48:14 +0100

I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> > wrote: > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > -Ben. > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither is it > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2847. [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:04:01 -0000

Yes I was, thanks for clearing that up :-). I've been aware that I didn't know whether to spell it with the 'e', but I didn't think both versions are correct and mean very different things. But I claim the statement is correct for both versions, except the paper/book analogy (which was terrible anyway...). Meant to just say silicon(e) is not one fixed product but comes in many different ways... Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@> > > wrote: > > > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither is it > > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2848. Re: [Speed cubing group] F2L numbers
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:29:50 -0000

Yeah, I wish it were counting the cross, but it's not. Thanks. Roger Wood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "James Stuber" <jestuber@...> wrote: > > If you're counting the cross, that's amazing. If not, that's totally > reasonable. > > > > _____ > > From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Stacie Wood > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:21 PM > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Speed cubing group] F2L numbers > > > > Greetings. > > I've been starting to count the number of moves I utilize in solving > the F2L. Counting 180 degree turns as 1 move, I'm averaging around 25- > 29 moves for the F2L. Is this reasonable, or should I be at a lower > amount and am missing some shortcuts? > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+gam > e&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+p uzzle+g > ame&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytE CiSfUCw > > puzzle game > > Free > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzl > e+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=W ord+puz > zle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk3 1uvuXI6 > ReWEw> puzzle inlay games > > Educational > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+p > uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle& w4=Word > +puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_ 4zOte4R > 94IVKMFNQ> game and puzzle > > > Word > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game& > w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puz zle+gam > e&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgI x9QRg> > puzzle game > > Kid > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w > 2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzz le+game > &w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2- DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> > puzzle game > > Puzzle > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=F > ree+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+ game&w5 > =Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBM A> > games > > > > _____ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube> " on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? subject=Unsubscri > be> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. > > > > _____ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2849. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:58:29 +0100

I think everybody will agree with you that a statement of type "silicone is silicone" is correct. But the statement "neither it is oil" is correct, only if you with siliconE understand silicon. (*You* must know). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube Yes I was, thanks for clearing that up :-). I've been aware that I didn't know whether to spell it with the 'e', but I didn't think both versions are correct and mean very different things. But I claim the statement is correct for both versions, except the paper/book analogy (which was terrible anyway...). Meant to just say silicon(e) is not one fixed product but comes in many different ways... Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@> > > wrote: > > > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither is it > > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
2850. [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:29:28 -0000

Well, silicone contains silicon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone The article explains how it can take on different properties for different applications. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I think everybody will agree with you that a statement of type "silicone is silicone" is correct. But the statement "neither it is oil" is correct, only if you with siliconE understand silicon. (*You* must know). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@...m> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > Yes I was, thanks for clearing that up :-). I've been aware that I > didn't know whether to spell it with the 'e', but I didn't think both > versions are correct and mean very different things. But I claim the > statement is correct for both versions, except the paper/book analogy > (which was terrible anyway...). Meant to just say silicon(e) is not > one fixed product but comes in many different ways... > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > <grsbmd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > > > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither > is it > > > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2851. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:23:56 +0100

Thank you for the excellent videos from the BLD competion. In the future, couldn´t you in due time tighten two ropes from your camera to the corners of the competition table? It´s a pity that such videos should be damaged by too curious spectators. (My question is serious). ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube Well, silicone contains silicon. As the word silicone contains the word silicon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone The article explains how it can take on different properties for different applications. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I think everybody will agree with you that a statement of type "silicone is silicone" is correct. But the statement "neither it is oil" is correct, only if you with siliconE understand silicon. (*You* must know). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > Yes I was, thanks for clearing that up :-). I've been aware that I > didn't know whether to spell it with the 'e', but I didn't think both > versions are correct and mean very different things. But I claim the > statement is correct for both versions, except the paper/book analogy > (which was terrible anyway...). Meant to just say silicon(e) is not > one fixed product but comes in many different ways... > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > <grsbmd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > > > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither > is it > > > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links
2852. [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:18:25 -0000

Yes, the spectators had the run of the place to some degree. It was an informal atmosphere, which was fun. Sort of the opposite extreme from WC05, where the cameras prevented the front row spectators from seeing ANYTHING during the finals. (There's some killer footage out there somewhere; hopefully these documentaries will come to fruition!) If I ever organize a competition (and I've thought about it), I would like to have multiple cameras set up and rolling, like one per timer. Maybe an arrangement of tables in a square would prevent people from blocking the view. Then everyone would have a nice high quality closeup video of each solve, and any records would be well- documented. Chris Hunt did a great job of documenting the Dallas event last summer. I'm envisioning something at least that good. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Thank you for the excellent videos from the BLD competion. In the future, couldn´t you in due time tighten two ropes from your camera to the corners of the competition table? It´s a pity that such videos should be damaged by too curious spectators. (My question is serious). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:29 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > Well, silicone contains silicon. > As the word silicone contains the word silicon. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone > > The article explains how it can take on different properties for > different applications. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > I think everybody will agree with you that a statement of > type "silicone is silicone" is correct. But the statement "neither > it is oil" is correct, only if you with siliconE understand silicon. > (*You* must know). > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:04 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > > > Yes I was, thanks for clearing that up :-). I've been aware that I > > didn't know whether to spell it with the 'e', but I didn't think > both > > versions are correct and mean very different things. But I claim > the > > statement is correct for both versions, except the paper/book > analogy > > (which was terrible anyway...). Meant to just say silicon(e) is > not > > one fixed product but comes in many different ways... > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@> > > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > > <grsbmd@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on > my > > > > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. > Neither > > is it > > > > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
2853. Re: A perm (or all LL?) on R
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:34:31 -0000

Hmm.. Yeah.. Well, for some cases, I can solve them with LL on the R face.. Some sunes for example.. Maybe you like this one (OLL): F'U' (R'URU'R'U) R b (F' with right thumb, U' with left index please). Or maybe you already knew that... Also, I start one of the PLL's with LL on the right: RUR'U' R U2 Z' Y' RUR'U' Y X L'U'LU L2 (try to make the cube rotations together with the moves here...) Well, I hope you didn't know these yet :). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > (U r) (l U L' U') (R U) (L U' L' R2 U') > > I'm solving F2L with cross on left. Have been thinking about doing LL > with F2L still on left. Has anyone considered/examined that before? > > Cheers! > Stefan >
2854. Re: [Speed cubing group] A perm (or all LL?) on R
From: eric stalter <ericdstalter@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:49:09 -0800 (PST)

I solve the F2L with Petrus, then OLL-PLL. I do all my OLL with the F2L still on the left then put the LL on top to figure out the PLL. I think it goes quite fast that way. my average a month ago was 58s, now is 43s my $.02 ERic --- Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > (U r) (l U L' U') (R U) (L U' L' R2 U') > > I'm solving F2L with cross on left. Have been > thinking about doing LL > with F2L still on left. Has anyone > considered/examined that before? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2855. broken homer cube
From: "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:45:53 -0000

i have a broken homer simpson cube that isnt really broken just tooken apart. Anyone kno how to put it back together? thnx!
2856. Re: 11x11
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:47:46 -0000

Congratualtions! Now do 40x40 :P Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...> wrote: > > i did a 11x11 yesterday! 3x3 time is only 42, it bites a lot >
2857. Re: [Speed cubing group] broken homer cube
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:52:38 +0100

I think it just works like a 2x2x2. I'm not sure though. But have a look at this ;-) Gilles. 2006/3/15, aznboi1234321 <aznboi1234321@...>: > i have a broken homer simpson cube that isnt really broken just tooken > apart. Anyone kno how to put it back together? thnx! > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2858. cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:06:16 -0000

I highly doubt this is a new alg. Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both times. I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a different one that I also like. (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. Chris
2859. Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:09:57 -0000

Thats really similar to the one on the 4x4...You don't go on yahoo anymore...hmmmm...But sounds cool...I'll try it... *tries it* Never mind...does something COMPLETELY different...hmmm... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > times. > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > different one that I also like. > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > Chris >
2860. Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:22:16 -0000

Hey Chris! Thanks! This is the first 5x5 parity alg I learned that I can use for the last edges. :) I don't know if it's new.. but it's cool! And pretty easy too! - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > times. > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > different one that I also like. > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > Chris >
2861. New Black Diy
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:12:14 -0000

Can someone help to explain how to build up center pieces on the new black diys. Ive been to Ton and Jon morris's sites and still cant figure it out.
2862. Re: broken homer cube
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:20:22 -0000

I think the back left(maybe right) of his head has a round piece which covers a screw. I think you have to ruin the round plug to take the screw out to take it apart that way. If you got it apart without breaking anything, that's amazing! Maybe you can just slide it back together without taking the screw out. try this link http://www.rubiks.com/images/lvl4/produc/template/free_downloads/jpg/2x2_reassembly.html good luck! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > i have a broken homer simpson cube that isnt really broken just tooken > apart. Anyone kno how to put it back together? thnx! >
2863. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: broken homer cube
From: Hai Pham <aznboi1234321@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 16:53:51 -0800 (PST)

thnx for the help but the simpson's cube is kinda like that but hte core peice has this tihngy majiggy that i cant really explain lol if anyone has a simpsons cube htat they pput back together i need instructions! thnx for the help from everyone tho skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: I think the back left(maybe right) of his head has a round piece which covers a screw. I think you have to ruin the round plug to take the screw out to take it apart that way. If you got it apart without breaking anything, that's amazing! Maybe you can just slide it back together without taking the screw out. try this link http://www.rubiks.com/images/lvl4/produc/template/free_downloads/jpg/2x2_reassembly.html good luck! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "aznboi1234321" <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > > i have a broken homer simpson cube that isnt really broken just tooken > apart. Anyone kno how to put it back together? thnx! > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2864. Rubik's Cube song
From: "Jasmine" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:16:54 -0000

Hi Guys, I know this question has been asked before, but when searching the group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a copy of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where I got it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: "I've never peeled off the stickers or taken apart the pieces or looked at any books with a solution. But I'm gonna get that bottom line if it takes all my time. Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com
2865. Re: 11x11
From: "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:46:41 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Congratualtions! Now do 40x40 :P > > Peter Greenwood > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "timmotonforge" > <timmotonforge@> wrote: > > > > i did a 11x11 yesterday! 3x3 time is only 42, it bites a lot > > > Hey, man thanks for the suggestion. I'm only 14 and that would take days with my method. YOur humbled friend Tico
2866. cross help
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:44:13 -0000

Greetings. I've been counting my number of moves to make the cross on the bottom layer and I think they suck. Generally, I've been averaging 7-9 moves and it seems most can be constructed in 5-6 (at least from what I've read). Could one of the experienced cubers mentor me by giving me some scrambles and then get back on how they would assemble that cross on the given scramble? I think I'm missing something. Thanks. Roger Wood
2867. Re: [Speed cubing group] cross help
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:12:22 -0800

It would probably be better if you posted scrambles with YOUR solution and then others tell you what THEY did. -Chris On 3/15/06, Stacie Wood <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > Greetings. > > I've been counting my number of moves to make the cross on the bottom > layer and I think they suck. Generally, I've been averaging 7-9 moves > and it seems most can be constructed in 5-6 (at least from what I've > read). > > Could one of the experienced cubers mentor me by giving me some > scrambles and then get back on how they would assemble that cross on > the given scramble? I think I'm missing something. > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2868. Re: [Speed cubing group] cross help
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:13:43 -0800

Also, look at this for exactly what you requested: http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/cross/crossexamples.html -Chris On 3/15/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: > It would probably be better if you posted scrambles with YOUR solution > and then others tell you what THEY did. > > -Chris > > On 3/15/06, Stacie Wood <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > I've been counting my number of moves to make the cross on the bottom > > layer and I think they suck. Generally, I've been averaging 7-9 moves > > and it seems most can be constructed in 5-6 (at least from what I've > > read). > > > > Could one of the experienced cubers mentor me by giving me some > > scrambles and then get back on how they would assemble that cross on > > the given scramble? I think I'm missing something. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Roger Wood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2869. Re: 11x11
From: "Joe Allen" <wallen@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:55:37 -0000

I'll take that challenge.... I just need to find a good day to start. Joe Allen --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Congratualtions! Now do 40x40 :P > > Peter Greenwood > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "timmotonforge" > <timmotonforge@> wrote: > > > > i did a 11x11 yesterday! 3x3 time is only 42, it bites a lot > > >
2870. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 11x11
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:57:24 -0800

You might as well chug a gallon of whole milk. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:55 PM, Joe Allen wrote: > I'll take that challenge.... > > I just need to find a good day to start. > > Joe Allen > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> > wrote: >> >> Congratualtions! Now do 40x40 :P >> >> Peter Greenwood >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "timmotonforge" >> <timmotonforge@> wrote: >>> >>> i did a 11x11 yesterday! 3x3 time is only 42, it bites a lot >>> >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2871. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rubik's Cube song
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:26:10 +0100

Do yuo mean #19817? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasmine" <speedcuber@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:16 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Rubik's Cube song > Hi Guys, > > I know this question has been asked before, but when searching the > group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a copy > of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where I got > it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. > > Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: > > "I've never peeled off the stickers > or taken apart the pieces > or looked at any books with a solution. > But I'm gonna get that bottom line > if it takes all my time. > Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." > > Jasmine > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2872. Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:43:32 -0000

The song is "Rubiks Cube" by Amateur Lovers. I have a copy of it I can post somewhere if you like :) -Daniel --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jasmine" <speedcuber@...> wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > I know this question has been asked before, but when searching the > group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a copy > of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where I got > it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. > > Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: > > "I've never peeled off the stickers > or taken apart the pieces > or looked at any books with a solution. > But I'm gonna get that bottom line > if it takes all my time. > Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." > > Jasmine > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com >
2873. Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:43:10 -0000

I use this alg: (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 (m is the layer between r and l) Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > times. > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > different one that I also like. > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > Chris >
2874. Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:51:11 -0000

Yeah, please do. I'd like to hear it. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...> wrote: > > The song is "Rubiks Cube" by Amateur Lovers. > > I have a copy of it I can post somewhere if you like :) > > -Daniel > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jasmine" > <speedcuber@> wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > I know this question has been asked before, but when searching the > > group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a copy > > of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where I got > > it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. > > > > Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: > > > > "I've never peeled off the stickers > > or taken apart the pieces > > or looked at any books with a solution. > > But I'm gonna get that bottom line > > if it takes all my time. > > Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." > > > > Jasmine > > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > >
2875. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:51:55 -0800 (PST)

I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: I use this alg: (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 (m is the layer between r and l) Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > times. > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > different one that I also like. > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > Chris > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2876. 4x4x4 parity algs if only one edge is correctly orientated on LL after FL2
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:04:20 -0000

Hi, A couple of weeks ago I found these two algs for the 4x4x4: 1. B' R' [(Rr)2 B2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' B2 (Rr)2] R B 2. B' R' F' [(Rr)2 B2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' B2 (Rr)2] F R B I don't use these algs for speedcubing (unless I see that I would have a OLL skip after using one the algs), but maybe it is useful for the people who still use a 3look-LL (EO, CO, PLL) or a 4look-LL for the 3x3x3. Michael Fung
2877. Re: 4x4x4 parity algs if only one edge is correctly orientated on LL after FL2
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:16:59 -0000

I like them...So simple, but yet, soooo beautiful... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > Hi, > A couple of weeks ago I found these two algs for the 4x4x4: > > 1. B' R' [(Rr)2 B2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' B2 > (Rr)2] R B > > 2. B' R' F' [(Rr)2 B2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' B2 > (Rr)2] F R B > > I don't use these algs for speedcubing (unless I see that I would have > a OLL skip after using one the algs), but maybe it is useful for the > people who still use a 3look-LL (EO, CO, PLL) or a 4look-LL for the 3x3x3. > > Michael Fung >
2878. Re: 4x4x4 parity algs if only one edge is correctly orientated on LL after FL2
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:29:12 -0000

Hey Micheal, Too bad we couldn't see each other much lately... Will you be comming to Alexanders party, the 26th? - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > Hi, > A couple of weeks ago I found these two algs for the 4x4x4: > > 1. B' R' [(Rr)2 B2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' B2 > (Rr)2] R B > > 2. B' R' F' [(Rr)2 B2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' B2 > (Rr)2] F R B > > I don't use these algs for speedcubing (unless I see that I would have > a OLL skip after using one the algs), but maybe it is useful for the > people who still use a 3look-LL (EO, CO, PLL) or a 4look-LL for the 3x3x3. > > Michael Fung >
2879. 5x5 solution
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:12:31 -0000

Hi there, I just got a 5x5 (east sheen). I'm able to solve it now, but I need to have a better way for the centers and pairing up the edges. Also I'm interested in centers last, but to find anything about that is almost impossible...
2880. Re: 5x5 solution
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:29:12 -0000

I've tried out most of the methods out there...including a hybrid one I made myself. http://www.bigcubes.com has a good solution. http://idahocubers.com/video/55512036.wmv Watch that video. It is probably the top 5x5 solver in the world doing a full 5x5 Average. Just by watching you can learn a lot...(PS, the bigcubes website is on his method) Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > Hi there, > I just got a 5x5 (east sheen). I'm able to solve it now, but I need to > have a better way for the centers and pairing up the edges. Also I'm > interested in centers last, but to find anything about that is almost > impossible... >
2881. Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:29:12 -0000

It's from the album "Virgin White Lies", which was released way back in 1997. You can purchase the album from both Amazon.com (used) and cdconnection.com (new). Samples from the album are available at both sites - sounds like a fun pop album. I'll put the MP3 in the "Files" section of this group, then post here with the link. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...> wrote: > > The song is "Rubiks Cube" by Amateur Lovers. > > I have a copy of it I can post somewhere if you like :) > > -Daniel > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Jasmine" > <speedcuber@> wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > I know this question has been asked before, but when searching the > > group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a copy > > of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where I got > > it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. > > > > Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: > > > > "I've never peeled off the stickers > > or taken apart the pieces > > or looked at any books with a solution. > > But I'm gonna get that bottom line > > if it takes all my time. > > Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." > > > > Jasmine > > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > >
2882. Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:32:14 -0000

Well apparently the group is out of space, even for a 3MB MP3. If anyone clears out space, let me know and I'll retry. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...> wrote: > > It's from the album "Virgin White Lies", which was released way back > in 1997. > > You can purchase the album from both Amazon.com (used) and > cdconnection.com (new). Samples from the album are available at both > sites - sounds like a fun pop album. > > I'll put the MP3 in the "Files" section of this group, then post > here with the link. > > yeff > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" > <swedishlf@> wrote: > > > > The song is "Rubiks Cube" by Amateur Lovers. > > > > I have a copy of it I can post somewhere if you like :) > > > > -Daniel > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jasmine" > > <speedcuber@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > I know this question has been asked before, but when searching > the > > > group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a > copy > > > of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where > I got > > > it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. > > > > > > Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: > > > > > > "I've never peeled off the stickers > > > or taken apart the pieces > > > or looked at any books with a solution. > > > But I'm gonna get that bottom line > > > if it takes all my time. > > > Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." > > > > > > Jasmine > > > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > > > > >
2883. Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:59:47 -0000

That's actually pretty catchy. "Seems so redundant to solve same puzzle faster." (Not for us!) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...> wrote: > > It's from the album "Virgin White Lies", which was released way back > in 1997. > > You can purchase the album from both Amazon.com (used) and > cdconnection.com (new). Samples from the album are available at both > sites - sounds like a fun pop album. > > I'll put the MP3 in the "Files" section of this group, then post > here with the link. > > yeff > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" > <swedishlf@> wrote: > > > > The song is "Rubiks Cube" by Amateur Lovers. > > > > I have a copy of it I can post somewhere if you like :) > > > > -Daniel > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jasmine" > > <speedcuber@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > I know this question has been asked before, but when searching > the > > > group I couldn't find the message, so I'm asking again. I had a > copy > > > of a Rubik's Cube song, but now can't find it or remember where > I got > > > it, or find it in the quick Google search I just did. > > > > > > Anyway, the lyrics include something like this: > > > > > > "I've never peeled off the stickers > > > or taken apart the pieces > > > or looked at any books with a solution. > > > But I'm gonna get that bottom line > > > if it takes all my time. > > > Don't wanna add to next year's resolutions." > > > > > > Jasmine > > > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > > > > >
2884. [Speed cubing group] Re: 11x11
From: "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:04:44 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > You might as well chug a gallon of whole milk. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 15, 2006, at 9:55 PM, Joe Allen wrote: > > > I'll take that challenge.... > > > > I just need to find a good day to start. > > > > Joe Allen > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Congratualtions! Now do 40x40 :P > >> > >> Peter Greenwood > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "timmotonforge" > >> <timmotonforge@> wrote: > >>> > >>> i did a 11x11 yesterday! 3x3 time is only 42, it bites a lot > >>> > >> > > > > > > > >Timmoton forge Hey, I can do that too! J/K Tyson (Thanks for the suggestion) I found it a twisty puzzles megasite labeled as 'box size 11' > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2885. [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:04:51 -0000

Hi Frank, I hope this is this what you need : (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 Have fun, Frédérick. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: I use this alg: > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > (m is the layer between r and l) > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > Michael Fung > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > > times. > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > different one that I also like. > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2886. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:23:15 -0800 (PST)

nice alg, frederick, maybe you could explain to us all how you get these and other edge algs using the cube solver applets, i'm very interested to hear the details ----- Original Message ---- From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:04:51 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5 Hi Frank, I hope this is this what you need : (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 Have fun, Frédérick. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: I use this alg: > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > (m is the layer between r and l) > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > Michael Fung > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > > times. > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > different one that I also like. > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2887. [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:05:45 -0000

Hi, Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for this (non-parity) case for the last two edge tripples? OY GR GR OY OY GR Now I do this in two quick steps: (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> wrote: > > Hi Frank, > > I hope this is this what you need : > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > Have fun, > Frédérick. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this alg: > > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > (m is the layer between r and l) > > > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > > > times. > > > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > > different one that I also like. > > > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
2888. Re: [Speed cubing group] broken homer cube
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:47:26 -0800 (PST)

tooken?? well, the homer cube is exactly like a 2X2 so use the link that one guy had --- aznboi1234321 <aznboi1234321@...> wrote: > i have a broken homer simpson cube that isnt really > broken just tooken > apart. Anyone kno how to put it back together? thnx! > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2889. [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:40:56 -0000

Hey, (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 Thats how I do it... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > Hi, > Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for this (non-parity) > case for the last two edge tripples? > > OY GR > GR OY > OY GR > > Now I do this in two quick steps: > (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) > > Michael Fung > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, Frédérick BADIE > <f_badie@> wrote: > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > I hope this is this what you need : > > > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > > > Have fun, > > Frédérick. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > > > > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this alg: > > > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > (m is the layer between r and l) > > > > > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > > > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg > to do > > > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > > > > times. > > > > > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > > > different one that I also like. > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
2890. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:45:39 -0800 (PST)

dont you ppl know how to spell parody??!! --- Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > Hey, > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 > > Thats how I do it... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "mmwfung1985" > <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for > this (non-parity) > > case for the last two edge tripples? > > > > OY GR > > GR OY > > OY GR > > > > Now I do this in two quick steps: > > (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > Fr�d�rick BADIE > > <f_badie@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > > > I hope this is this what you need : > > > > > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 > (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > > > > > Have fun, > > > Fr�d�rick. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > Frank Morris > > > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone > help??? > > > > > > > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this > alg: > > > > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 > (Rr)2 > > > > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 > (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > (m is the layer between r and l) > > > > > > > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will > "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > > > > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > > > > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > cmhardw <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > > > > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave > me a very cool alg > > to do > > > > > the parity on wing edges as cycling > lUF<->lUB and I forgot it > both > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, > but instead found a > > > > > different one that I also like. > > > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 > (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > > > > > > > Again this has probably already been > discovered/found out, but I > > > > > thought I would post it in case someone > hasn't seen it and > likes it. > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay > games Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid > puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" > on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect > nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2891. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:56:59 -0800

Yeah, it's parity. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 16, 2006, at 5:45 PM, matteo miller-nicolato wrote: > dont you ppl know how to spell parody??!! > > --- Craig Bouchard <logitewty@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey, >> >> (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 >> >> Thats how I do it... >> >> Craig >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, >> "mmwfung1985" >> <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for >> this (non-parity) >>> case for the last two edge tripples? >>> >>> OY GR >>> GR OY >>> OY GR >>> >>> Now I do this in two quick steps: >>> (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) >>> >>> Michael Fung >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, >> Frédérick BADIE >>> <f_badie@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Frank, >>>> >>>> I hope this is this what you need : >>>> >>>> (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 >> (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 >>>> >>>> Have fun, >>>> Frédérick. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, >> Frank Morris >>>> <ephem825@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am looking for the same alg. can anyone >> help??? >>>>> >>>>> mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this >> alg: >>>>> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 >> (Rr)2 >>>>> ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 >> (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 >>>>> (m is the layer between r and l) >>>>> >>>>> Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will >> "flip" 3 edges: LFe, >>>>> RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? >>>>> >>>>> Michael Fung >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, >> cmhardw <no_reply@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I highly doubt this is a new alg. >>>>>> >>>>>> Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave >> me a very cool alg >>> to do >>>>>> the parity on wing edges as cycling >> lUF<->lUB and I forgot it >> both >>>>>> times. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been racking my brain to remember it, >> but instead found a >>>>>> different one that I also like. >>>>>> >>>>>> (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 >> (Ll)' (Rr)2 >>>>>> >>>>>> Again this has probably already been >> discovered/found out, but I >>>>>> thought I would post it in case someone >> hasn't seen it and >> likes it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SPONSORED LINKS >>>>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay >> games Educational >>>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid >> puzzle game Puzzle games >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" >> on the web. >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an >> email to: >>>>> >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>>> >>>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >> the Yahoo! Terms of >>>> Service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------- >>>>> Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect >> nasty viruses! >>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been >> removed] >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... > just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... > some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > and i solve it faster behind my back... > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... > speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2892. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:08:40 -0800 (PST)

Frederick, That is excellent. Thank you very much. Hope all is well, Frank Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> wrote: Hi Frank, I hope this is this what you need : (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 Have fun, Frédérick. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: I use this alg: > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > (m is the layer between r and l) > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > Michael Fung > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg to do > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it both > > times. > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > different one that I also like. > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and likes it. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2893. Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:48:26 -0000

Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys, my poor fiancee had her wisdom teeth out today so I've been playing nurse-maid. Jasmine, I e-mailed it to you, but I have made it available here: http://members.cox.net/swedishlf/Amateur%20Lovers%20-%20Rubik's%20Cube.mp3 or rather: http://tinyurl.com/q7gqd I don't know how much bandwidth I have as it's just my basic cox account webspace, but I'll keep it up for a few days. Cheers, Daniel
2894. Australian speedcubers
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:29:42 +0000

Hi People, I was interesting in finding out more about other Australia speedcubers. I've set up a database over in the Australian speedcubers yahoo group (http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/australianspeedcubers/) and was wondering if there are any Australian speedcubers here, if they wouldn't popping over and filling it out! :) Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogpspot.com -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free
2895. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Rubik's Cube song
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:31:31 +0000

Hi Daniel, Got the email. Thanks heaps for that. It's my favourite of the cube related songs I've heard! :) Hope your fiancee is feeling better! Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:48:26 -0000, "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...> said: > > Sorry it took so long to get back to you guys, my poor fiancee had her > wisdom teeth out today so I've been playing nurse-maid. Jasmine, I > e-mailed it to you, but I have made it available here: > [1]http://members.cox.net/swedishlf/Amateur%20Lovers%20-%20Rubik's%20Cube.mp3 > or rather: > [2]http://tinyurl.com/q7gqd > I don't know how much bandwidth I have as it's just my basic cox > account webspace, but I'll keep it up for a few days. > Cheers, > Daniel -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own
2896. [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 13:43:05 -0000

That is not the case I mean. Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey, > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 > > Thats how I do it... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" > <mmwfung1985@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for this (non-parity) > > case for the last two edge tripples? > > > > OY GR > > GR OY > > OY GR > > > > Now I do this in two quick steps: > > (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE > > <f_badie@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > > > I hope this is this what you need : > > > > > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > > > > > Have fun, > > > Frédérick. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > > > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > > > > > > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this alg: > > > > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > (m is the layer between r and l) > > > > > > > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > > > > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > > > > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > > > > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg > > to do > > > > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it > both > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > > > > different one that I also like. > > > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > > > > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > > > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and > likes it. > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > >
2897. cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "perscription_death" <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:22:35 -0000

nice alg, frederick, maybe you could explain to us all how you get these and other edge algs using the cube solver applets, i'm very interested to hear the details
2898. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:36:27 -0800 (PST)

i to am looking for an alg for this dreaded 10th case. i am doing it in 2 parts also, (well at least the 2 times its come up) its pretty rare but i would like to find a good way to take care of it, maybe if frederick is nice enough to explain the process on the applets he uses we can all experiment a little bit. ----- Original Message ---- From: mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:43:05 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5 That is not the case I mean. Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey, > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 > > Thats how I do it... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" > <mmwfung1985@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for this (non-parity) > > case for the last two edge tripples? > > > > OY GR > > GR OY > > OY GR > > > > Now I do this in two quick steps: > > (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE > > <f_badie@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > > > I hope this is this what you need : > > > > > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > > > > > Have fun, > > > Frédérick. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > > > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > > > > > > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this alg: > > > > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > (m is the layer between r and l) > > > > > > > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > > > > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > > > > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > > > > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg > > to do > > > > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it > both > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > > > > different one that I also like. > > > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > > > > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > > > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and > likes it. > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2899. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:54:45 -0800 (PST)

i'm fully aware of what i said and i meant everything i said, its fine if you're not interested in sharing the details of your process, when i think about it i'd like to work it out myself, however you don't have turn it into a personal attack and post private messages between us in the group. i think i was polite during our exchange until about end of the third message when i was tired of even hearing about it. furthermore, after speaking with ron who said you very well may have discovered a lot of those algs originally using his cubesolver, i did post a message in the group that included you. granted you weren't the spotlight of the message, but there is a lot more to bigcubes.com then the last 2 edge algs for 5x5. since you wanted to show half the conversation i'll be sure to have your side at the end of this post. finally and most importantly, i'm currently experimenting with ron's cubesolve to work on these cases, when i have a definate process of move restrictions and ignored pieces, and/or more algs i will post them for all. sorry to all about the dirty laundry being aired on the forum. #1 > Hi Clancy, > > i'm happy to see my 5*5*5 algs on your page > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/12920 > > No problem if tou put my name on them... > > Have fun, > > Frédérick #2 I understand your position. You don't have to mention anybody if you don't want to do it. No problem. Just learn how to say hello, and to get a clue within the sites that already exist. Macky and Stephan had the courtesy to mention the origins of the algs they had published.... An other point, what do you mean with "get a clue" ? And it's another problem than ego to say I'm a liar. All algs on your page came from my post on the international forum, I publish them for the first time on the french forum, the others on your page are the trivial case without the parity problem. I will forward a mail I had with Stephan..... Why don't you publish the alg to correct the double parity error for the 444 ? It's the same than one of the 555. Anybody can use a cube solver applet ? Nope for the big cubes. A cube solver gave many solutions for a configuration. Why chose one or an others ? It's just a personnal choice. So why it's my algs you decided to publish ? Have fun, Frederick. ----- Original Message ---- From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:17:00 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5 --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "perscription_death" <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > nice alg, frederick, maybe you could explain to us all how you get > these and other edge algs using the cube solver applets, i'm very > interested to hear the details Hi Clancy, all parity algs on your website come from me (message 12920 on this forum), except Chris Hardwick's one which is longer than mine. Few months ago, I asked you a friendly question about the credit page of bigcubes.com According to your answers ( with no polite words, like "hello" by example), you doubted I found them by myself, and you said anybody could find algs because it's easy with computers. So, if it's so easy, do it by yourself, publish your own algs or respect the others. I can refresh your memory if you don't remember what your answers were. You said : ""well i have never even seen the page you posted, i got all of those algorithms from frank morris, he said some of them came may have come from ron, stefan, chris and others, including you, although you are the only one that feels the need to claim any credit for these. feel free to ask frank about his involvement in this project. if some algs trickled down to him from you great, but i really doubt you found every single one of those on your own, since lots of people could and can solve the professor long before you....and furthermore i don't think anyone "owns" algorithms....the reason i mentioned his name is because he actually helped me, and didn't just want credit for something anyone could have found, lots of people know how to run cube solver applets. I haven't really given anyone credit for anything yet, i was more concerned with bettering the cubing community and getting more people into solving larger cubes than an ego trip."" ""again i NEVER saw the post u showed me, ask frank morris he sent me all of those algs. and i will be happy to give credit to anyone that has contributed to the big cube community, but as i said the site isn't done, i wanted to give people that information since i had seen repeated frequent posts regarding those last 2 sets of edges. i plan on expanding the site site to 4x4 also, but since there is already a decent method method on this on chris' site the 5x5 was my first focus. again i don't claim to have made these up, honestly i don't care who did, i'm interested in providing the information to everyone. and yes everyone can use a solver for larger cubes, you're not the only one capable of writing or using solving programs. for the fourth time, i didn't choose any of these algorithms, as i said they were given to me by frank. i said get a clue because these are not YOUR algs. they are everyone's. i thought all cubers were less selfish than that and more concerned about helping everyone to get as good as they can be. but be rest assured when i get to the credits page which is my LAST priorty, your name will surely be mentioned as i am fully aware of your contributions to the big cube community. it seems a litte ridiculous that within no time of that being posted all that you are concerned about credit for algs that many people have and use. Feel free to message me if u want to continue this conversation, also i'm sure frank can vouch for the fact that EVERY SINGLE last 2 edge algorithm on that page, was given to me by him. now i'm kind of busy trying to make the best site for larger cubes on the net, so kindly excuse me if i don't have time to give credit to everyone who thinks they discovered something that was around long before they had picked a cube up."" For your "dreaded 10th case", I posted : (F2) (Rr) D2 (Rr)' F2 U2 F2 (Ll) B2 (Ll)' F2 It's in the message 12920. Have fun, Frédérick. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2900. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:03:35 -0800 (PST)

hey micheal, i don't know if you saw it in that long post anywhere so i'll repost it for you this is FREDERICK BADIE'S ALG: For your "dreaded 10th case", I posted : (F2) (Rr) D2 (Rr)' F2 U2 F2 (Ll) B2 (Ll)' F2 It's in the message 12920. ----- Original Message ---- From: mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:43:05 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5 That is not the case I mean. Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey, > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 > > Thats how I do it... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" > <mmwfung1985@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Very nice alg :). Do you also have a good alg for this (non-parity) > > case for the last two edge tripples? > > > > OY GR > > GR OY > > OY GR > > > > Now I do this in two quick steps: > > (Dd)(RF'UR'F)(Dd)' (Uue')'(RF'UR'F)(Dd) > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE > > <f_badie@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > > > I hope this is this what you need : > > > > > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > > > > > Have fun, > > > Frédérick. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > > > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am looking for the same alg. can anyone help??? > > > > > > > > mmwfung1985 <mmwfung1985@> wrote: I use this alg: > > > > (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 B2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > ==> (Rr)' U2 (Rr)' U2 x' U2 (Rr)' U2 (m'Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)2 > > > > (m is the layer between r and l) > > > > > > > > Btw, does someone have an parity alg that will "flip" 3 edges: LFe, > > > > RFe and BRe (e is the layer between u and d)? > > > > > > > > Michael Fung > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I highly doubt this is a new alg. > > > > > > > > > > Basically Frank Morris and Doug Li both gave me a very cool alg > > to do > > > > > the parity on wing edges as cycling lUF<->lUB and I forgot it > both > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > I've been racking my brain to remember it, but instead found a > > > > > different one that I also like. > > > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 U2 (Ll) U2 (Rr)' U2 (Rr) U2 F2 (Rr) F2 (Ll)' (Rr)2 > > > > > > > > > > Again this has probably already been discovered/found out, but I > > > > > thought I would post it in case someone hasn't seen it and > likes it. > > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2901. Random Post about Popping
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:36:50 -0000

If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the cube...Does that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is over... Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the Cube be with you... PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p
2902. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:05:04 -0300 (ART)

I think that counts as a DNF Pedro Craig Bouchard <logitewty@hotmail.com> escreveu: If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the cube...Does that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is over... Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the Cube be with you... PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2903. First BLD Video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:32:34 -0000

Hey All, My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to make a video...So I did one go... http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really weird...3:20.00...hmmm... Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the cube be with you...
2904. Rubik's cube workshop and website
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:13:29 -0000

http://vanderblonk.com/cube/yy/ This is a website I made especially for the workshop I am doing tomorrow, but I think it would make a nice beginners site too. Let me know what you guys think of it. I try to keep things really simple. Maybe one thing I am missing is situation cube images (like the 2D images with arrows). I also made a Dutch version: http://vanderblonk.com/cube/yy/index_nl.html Michiel
2905. Re: First BLD Video
From: "caseyp_09" <caseyp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:15:33 -0000

Nice solve. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey All, > > My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to > make a video...So I did one go... > > http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI > > The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really > weird...3:20.00...hmmm... > > Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD > that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > May the cube be with you... >
2906. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0800

My guess is that it would be a DNF because the timer is stopped and when the judge looks at the cube, it's not solved. -Chris On 3/17/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes > out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the cube...Does > that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is over... > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > May the Cube be with you... > > PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2907. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: "Evan Gates" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:32:44 -0800

If only a single piece comes out, or even an edge and a corner, couldn't it still count as solved? The orientation and permutation of the last edge and last corner are forced, so even if they aren't in the cube, it is possible to tell whether or not the cube is solved. Doesn't it say in the WCA rules that a cube still counts as solved if a defect such as a center cap falling off or a center twisting in a 5x5x5 occurs? So wouldn't this be the same idea? The puzzle _is_ unambiguously solved. Just my thoughts -Evan Until next time, Happy Cubing http://www.deepcube.net On 3/17/06, Chris Hunt <huntca@...> wrote: > > My guess is that it would be a DNF because the timer is stopped and > when the judge looks at the cube, it's not solved. > > -Chris > > > On 3/17/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > > If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes > > out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the cube...Does > > that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is over... > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > Craig Bouchard > > May the Cube be with you... > > > > PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2908. [Speed cubing group] Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 08:34:04 -0000

I found shorter 14-algs but I thought they're not more easy to perform. (Rr)2 D2 (Ll)' U2 (Rr)' B2 (Ll)2 U2 (Rr) B2 (Rr)' F2 U2 (Rr)' (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' F2 (Ll) B2 D2 (Rr)2 D2 (Ll) F2 (Ll) D2 (Rr)' (Ll)2 D2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) D2 B2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll) F2 (Rr) U2 (Rr)' (Ll)2 D2 (Rr)' U2 (Ll) D2 (Ll)2 F2 (Ll)' B2 (Rr)' D2 B2 (Rr)' Maybe, they sound better for you Have fun, Frédérick --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Frederick, > > That is excellent. Thank you very much. > > Hope all is well, > > Frank > > Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> wrote: > Hi Frank, > > I hope this is this what you need : > > (Rr) U2 (Ll)' U2 F2 (Rr) U2 (Ll)2 B2 (Ll)' B2 (Ll) F2 D2 (Ll)2 > > Have fun, > Frédérick.
2909. Cubing community in Asia
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:18:26 -0000

http://bbs.mf8.com.cn/ WOW!! :D
2910. Re: First BLD Video
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:24:29 -0000

Yo Craig!! Well done.. First BLD video, yet I saw you do it first ;). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey All, > > My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to > make a video...So I did one go... > > http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI > > The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really > weird...3:20.00...hmmm... > > Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD > that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > May the cube be with you... >
2911. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing community in Asia
From: Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:51:28 -0500

I like the pattern on the Megaminx. -Anthony Hsu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo�l van Noort" <joel_vn@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 6:18 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing community in Asia > http://bbs.mf8.com.cn/ > > WOW!! :D
2912. New WR at the cube contest in Norrköping, Sweden today!!!
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:58:03 -0000

Hi!! First day of the swedish cube contest in Norrköping is over. Anssi set a new WR for foot solving with an amazing time of 1:18.??. (Don't remember the hundreds). Anssi also set new european records for one-handed solving with a best time of 25.17 and an average of 30.99. All of the results will be posted on speedcubing.com tomorrow or on monday. /Gunnar
2913. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:42:17 -0800

I think what's described happened to me at the last competition. The cube popped during my final move, and before I realized it I had stopped the timer. And that's a DNF, of course Technically, the solve isn't over until you've stopped the timer. /Lars On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:44, Chris Hunt wrote: > My guess is that it would be a DNF because the timer is stopped and > when the judge looks at the cube, it's not solved. > > -Chris > > On 3/17/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: >> If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes >> out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the >> cube...Does >> that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is >> over... >> >> Thanks for reading my nonsense, >> >> Craig Bouchard >> May the Cube be with you... >> >> PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p
2914. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:15:59 -0000

Hey Lars, What I am describing is when you have finished the cube, you go to let go of it to stop the timer, and you accidentally pull a piece out. Its not in any way a result of the solve... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > I think what's described happened to me at the last competition. > > The cube popped during my final move, and before I realized it I had > stopped the timer. > > And that's a DNF, of course Technically, the solve isn't over until > you've stopped the timer. > > /Lars > > On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:44, Chris Hunt wrote: > > > My guess is that it would be a DNF because the timer is stopped and > > when the judge looks at the cube, it's not solved. > > > > -Chris > > > > On 3/17/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > >> If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes > >> out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the > >> cube...Does > >> that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is > >> over... > >> > >> Thanks for reading my nonsense, > >> > >> Craig Bouchard > >> May the Cube be with you... > >> > >> PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p >
2915. Re: First BLD Video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:17:28 -0000

Thanks Joel, I have another video, now on Strangepuzzle.com, its been edited, but I made another video for Peter Greenwood cuz he was doubting my times so I did the scramble and everything on tape for him...3:45.94...on strangepuzzle.com if you wanna see it... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Yo Craig!! > > Well done.. First BLD video, yet I saw you do it first ;). > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > > > My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to > > make a video...So I did one go... > > > > http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI > > > > The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really > > weird...3:20.00...hmmm... > > > > Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD > > that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > Craig Bouchard > > May the cube be with you... > > >
2916. Re: [Speed cubing group] New WR at the cube contest in Norrköping, Sweden today!!!
From: "Parth Upadhyay" <parth.upadhyay@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:20:07 -0600

1:18???? thats amazing!! Congratulations Anssi!!!!!!!!! great job thats amazing -parth [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2917. Petrus, Be that you?
From: "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:39:04 -0000

I saw your name and wondered if you made the website. If it is, say hello. Thanks for the awesome method. My record was barely under a minute with layering, but I switched to yours and its been dropping consistently. (Record = 37 sec.) Later!
2918. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:40:27 -0800

But you stopped the timer. Stopping the timer is the recognition that you are happy with the resting state of the cube. If you were more careful, you could put the cube down, take a couple seconds to examine everything, and then stop the timer. Instead, because you choose to stop the timer quickly, you risk suffering those consequences. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 18, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > Hey Lars, > > What I am describing is when you have finished the cube, you go to let > go of it to stop the timer, and you accidentally pull a piece out. > Its not in any way a result of the solve... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> > wrote: >> >> I think what's described happened to me at the last competition. >> >> The cube popped during my final move, and before I realized it I had >> stopped the timer. >> >> And that's a DNF, of course Technically, the solve isn't over until >> you've stopped the timer. >> >> /Lars >> >> On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:44, Chris Hunt wrote: >> >>> My guess is that it would be a DNF because the timer is stopped and >>> when the judge looks at the cube, it's not solved. >>> >>> -Chris >>> >>> On 3/17/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: >>>> If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes >>>> out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the >>>> cube...Does >>>> that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is >>>> over... >>>> >>>> Thanks for reading my nonsense, >>>> >>>> Craig Bouchard >>>> May the Cube be with you... >>>> >>>> PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2919. Re: [Speed cubing group] Random Post about Popping
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:41:02 +0000

During the Rubik's Clock event I actually do something a bit like this. It's easy to accidentally leave one clock on the back side unsolved and not realise it, so I always give each side a quick check at the end, before I hit the timer. It does mean I waste 1-2 seconds, but since I'm not going to be breaking any world records anyway, I'd rather accept the extra 1-2 seconds than have a DNF! :) Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:40:27 -0800, "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> said: > > But you stopped the timer. Stopping the timer is the recognition that > you are happy with the resting state of the cube. If you were more > careful, you could put the cube down, take a couple seconds to examine > everything, and then stop the timer. Instead, because you choose to > stop the timer quickly, you risk suffering those consequences. > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > On Mar 18, 2006, at 10:15 AM, Craig Bouchard wrote: > > Hey Lars, > > > > What I am describing is when you have finished the cube, you go to let > > go of it to stop the timer, and you accidentally pull a piece out. > > Its not in any way a result of the solve... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> > > wrote: > >> > >> I think what's described happened to me at the last competition. > >> > >> The cube popped during my final move, and before I realized it I had > >> stopped the timer. > >> > >> And that's a DNF, of course Technically, the solve isn't over until > >> you've stopped the timer. > >> > >> /Lars > >> > >> On Mar 17, 2006, at 12:44, Chris Hunt wrote: > >> > >>> My guess is that it would be a DNF because the timer is stopped and > >>> when the judge looks at the cube, it's not solved. > >>> > >>> -Chris > >>> > >>> On 3/17/06, Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > >>>> If you go to stop the timer and as you stop the timer a piece comes > >>>> out of the cube, like you pull it out as you let go of the > >>>> cube...Does > >>>> that count as a pop??? Cuz its technically after the solve is > >>>> over... > >>>> > >>>> Thanks for reading my nonsense, > >>>> > >>>> Craig Bouchard > >>>> May the Cube be with you... > >>>> > >>>> PS: Go Clancy, oh, and I like ur car too :p > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > [1]Jigsaw puzzle game [2]Free puzzle inlay games [3]Educational game and > puzzle > [4]Word puzzle game [5]Kid puzzle game [6]Puzzle games > ____________________________________________________________ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "[7]speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [8]speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [9]Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > ____________________________________________________________ > > References > > 1. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > 2. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw > 3. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ > 4. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg > 5. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ > 6. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA > 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > 8. > mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe > 9. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again
2920. Get Me Noticed!
From: "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:25:08 -0000

Hey I was wondering where I could get on some records pages. I'm already on several of Chris Hardwick's, but I haven't been able to find many more. (If you get the impression that I have an ego problem, let me know!) Tyler Dicou
2921. Re: First BLD Video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:38:04 -0000

Hi again, Peter Greenwood insisted that I do a video where he sees the scramble, and my hands while solving...so here it is...and if anyone was wondering, Peter and a few others don't believe my times... http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0IG1K38M7C9SS21PRTHLQTN9JK Time: 3:45.94 Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the cube be with you... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey All, > > My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to > make a video...So I did one go... > > http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI > > The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really > weird...3:20.00...hmmm... > > Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD > that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > May the cube be with you... >
2922. multislotting help
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:50:16 -0000

Does anyone know of a good website where there is a decent explanation of multi-slotting and when to use the algs? I've not been able to piece it together thus far. Thanks. Roger Wood
2923. Re: First BLD Video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:58:20 -0000

Thanks Joel, I made another one right after for Peter Greenwood showing the scrambling process...He was doubting my times...so I hope he'll leave me alone now... http://strangepuzzle.com/videos.php?firstName=Craig&lastName=Bouchard&puzzleType=blindfold&solveTime=225.94&range=%3D Its on Strangepuzzle now (the new one)... Thanks for reading my nonsense, Craig Bouchard May the cube be with you... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Yo Craig!! > > Well done.. First BLD video, yet I saw you do it first ;). > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > > > My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to > > make a video...So I did one go... > > > > http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI > > > > The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really > > weird...3:20.00...hmmm... > > > > Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD > > that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > Craig Bouchard > > May the cube be with you... > > >
2924. NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:23:08 -0000

Hi everybody!! Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He averaged 13.22!!!!! It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles will also be available soon. /Gunnar Krig
2925. Re: First BLD Video
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:33:07 -0000

Sorry for the multiple different posts on the same thing...I posted these days ago and they are just showing up...hmmmm Yahoo doesn't like me... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Thanks Joel, > > I made another one right after for Peter Greenwood showing the > scrambling process...He was doubting my times...so I hope he'll leave > me alone now... > > http://strangepuzzle.com/videos.php?firstName=Craig&lastName=Bouchard&puzzleType=blindfold&solveTime=225.94&range=%3D > > Its on Strangepuzzle now (the new one)... > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > Craig Bouchard > May the cube be with you... > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Yo Craig!! > > > > Well done.. First BLD video, yet I saw you do it first ;). > > > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > My parents have been in Hawaii for a week...and I've been asked to > > > make a video...So I did one go... > > > > > > http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0EUKYS3A69SC923IMN85HO8LWI > > > > > > The time isn't sub-200, or sup-200...which I find really > > > weird...3:20.00...hmmm... > > > > > > Anyways...yah...blah blah blah...if you wanna talk to me about BLD > > > that would rock...add me to an instant messenger... > > > > > > Thanks for reading my nonsense, > > > > > > Craig Bouchard > > > May the cube be with you... > > > > > >
2926. Re: [Speed cubing group] NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:41:55 -0800 (PST)

all I have to say is... HOLY SHIT! pardon my language, but I feel that the news is worthy of it.. heheh.. Great job Anssi. Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: Hi everybody!! Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He averaged 13.22!!!!! It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles will also be available soon. /Gunnar Krig SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2927. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:03:46 -0000

Wow!! Congratulations to Anssi Vanhala! It's good to hear this great news! (Even though is makes me a bit jealous :p). - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig >
2928. Re: Get Me Noticed!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:06:25 -0000

Hmm.. www.speedcubing.com -> unofficial world records Is that what you mean? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "timmotonforge" <timmotonforge@...> wrote: > > Hey I was wondering where I could get on some records pages. I'm > already on several of Chris Hardwick's, but I haven't been able to > find many more. (If you get the impression that I have an ego > problem, let me know!) > > Tyler Dicou >
2929. Re: [Speed cubing group] NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:14:13 +0000

Congratulations Anssi!! Spectacular result!!! :D Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:23:08 -0000, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> said: > > Hi everybody!! > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > /Gunnar Krig > > SPONSORED LINKS > > [1]Jigsaw puzzle game [2]Free puzzle inlay games [3]Educational game and > puzzle > [4]Word puzzle game [5]Kid puzzle game [6]Puzzle games > ____________________________________________________________ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "[7]speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [8]speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [9]Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > ____________________________________________________________ > > References > > 1. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > 2. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw > 3. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ > 4. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg > 5. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ > 6. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA > 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > 8. > mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe > 9. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service
2930. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: teemu_tiinanen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:15:42 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig > WOW, that's simply stunning! Congratulations Anssi! I saw him cubing at Finnish Cube Meeting a couple months ago and he is incredibly fast, so this World Record was just a matter of time ;) although I must admit that I didn't expect this to happen so soon. Seems like Anssi has very good nerves when it comes to solving in competitions. If I remember correctly, this wasn't his first time when he beat his personal record in a competition. But I still can't understand how he can solve so quickly with so bad stickers :).
2931. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:27:09 -0000

Of course I meant "he had..." when I wrote "I had...". /Gunnar Krig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig >
2932. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:46:36 -0000

This average is simply incredible. Congratulations to you, Anssi. Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Of course I meant "he had..." when I wrote "I had...". > > /Gunnar Krig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > > will also be available soon. > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > >
2933. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:16:22 -0000

Unreal! Can't wait to see the videos... Congratulations Anssi! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig >
2934. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:06:24 -0000

The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. /Anders --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig >
2935. 4x4x4 Parity Algs
From: "Dwayne A Dollard" <ddollard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:24:57 -0000

Hey All, Does anyone know of a site that has more 4x4x4 parity error algs other than the ones on BigCubes.com. I've learned all of them on the site and would like to have different ones or even other algs for the ones on the site to have some that may potentially be better for my fingers? Thanks Dwayne
2936. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "karekrig" <karkr936@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:30:47 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig > Gunnar finished in second place with an average of 17.95. In the semis he set a new national record with an average of 17.55. When I see them solve live I think it looks like Gunnar turns faster. Anssi's turning just looks so relaxed, like he is not going at full speed. But put them next to each other and its obvious that Anssi's way is far more efficient. /Kåre
2937. Re: [Speed cubing group] NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Johannes Laire" <johannes.laire@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:42:04 +0200

Wow! Congratulations Anssi, that's unbelievable!! I can't imagine anyone beating that record soon! - Johannes Laire On 3/19/06, Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2938. Re: 4x4x4 Parity Algs
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:49:48 -0000

http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/4speedsolve3.html Thats got most of them... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Dwayne A Dollard" <ddollard@...> wrote: > > Hey All, > > Does anyone know of a site that has more 4x4x4 parity error algs > other than the ones on BigCubes.com. I've learned all of them on the > site and would like to have different ones or even other algs for the > ones on the site to have some that may potentially be better for my > fingers? > > Thanks Dwayne >
2939. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:00:31 -0000

...and the scrambles were 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D F' U' 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 B2 F2 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L R' 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' B' /Anders --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > /Anders > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves > are > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > scrmbles > > will also be available soon. > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > >
2940. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:22:06 +0100

I'm not sure I want to try those scrambles, I don't want to be ridiculous :D Congratulations :p GIlles. 2006/3/19, Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@ieee.org>: > ...and the scrambles were > > 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' > 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D F' > U' > 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 B2 > F2 > 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L R' > 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' B' > > /Anders > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > > > /Anders > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, > broke > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst > with > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 > times > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his > solves > > are > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > scrmbles > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2941. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:05:05 -0000

Btw... You should check your capslock.. every once in a while. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig >
2942. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:09:46 -0000

There were no skips and I lost about second in the 5th solve's OLL, so it's not perfect. The secret is: be bit nervous, tired and hungry. Nobody noticed my other WRs? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves are > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The scrmbles > will also be available soon. > > /Gunnar Krig >
2943. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:14:58 +0100

Have you missed post #27622? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!! > There were no skips and I lost about second in the 5th solve's OLL, > so it's not perfect. The secret is: be bit nervous, tired and hungry. > Nobody noticed my other WRs? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves > are > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > scrmbles > > will also be available soon. > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2944. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:21:47 +0530

Congrats man! I have been stuck at 35 secs for the last 3 months :( So u dont have any competitin from me , hehe Sachin. On 3/20/06, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Have you missed post #27622? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:09 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!! > > > > There were no skips and I lost about second in the 5th solve's OLL, > > so it's not perfect. The secret is: be bit nervous, tired and hungry. > > Nobody noticed my other WRs? > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves > > are > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > scrmbles > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2945. One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:57:26 -0000

I jsut noticed that there is now 100 people listed in speedcubings unofficial ranking that has a sub-20 average. Quite a milestone I think. :-) Compare this with May 23, 2003. Then only 39 people in the ranking, had a BEST time that was sub-20. I just can't get enough of statistics showing how the community is growing. :-) /Gunnar
2946. Re: One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:37:09 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > I jsut noticed that there is now 100 people listed in speedcubings > unofficial ranking that has a sub-20 average. Quite a milestone I > think. :-) > > Compare this with May 23, 2003. Then only 39 people in the ranking, > had a BEST time that was sub-20. I just can't get enough of statistics > showing how the community is growing. :-) > > /Gunnar > Before I submitted mine, there were 99, making me the 100th. That's my 15 seconds of fame ;) ~Thom
2947. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:28:56 -0500

This is curious to me. How much work does it take a sub-20 cuber to stay in shape? Daily practice? Weekly? Do you start forgetting algorithms, or just get slower? On 3/20/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Technically there are still 99 -- my average used to be sub20 but > now it's not (but I just got my new DIY so maybe this will change > once I get going :D). > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > I jsut noticed that there is now 100 people listed in > speedcubings > > > unofficial ranking that has a sub-20 average. Quite a milestone I > > > think. :-) > > > > > > Compare this with May 23, 2003. Then only 39 people in the > ranking, > > > had a BEST time that was sub-20. I just can't get enough of > statistics > > > showing how the community is growing. :-) > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > Before I submitted mine, there were 99, making me the 100th. > > > > That's my 15 seconds of fame ;) > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2948. [Speed cubing group] Re: One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:35:30 -0000

I deleted that message because I realized I actually hadn't submitted an average to that list! lol. As for the cubing I stopped doing it for nearly a year or so, I guess. I mainly just forgot a bunch of algorithms and got slower (that and my old cube is awful). --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > This is curious to me. How much work does it take a sub-20 cuber to stay in > shape? Daily practice? Weekly? Do you start forgetting algorithms, or > just get slower? > > On 3/20/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Technically there are still 99 -- my average used to be sub20 but > > now it's not (but I just got my new DIY so maybe this will change > > once I get going :D). > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I jsut noticed that there is now 100 people listed in > > speedcubings > > > > unofficial ranking that has a sub-20 average. Quite a milestone I > > > > think. :-) > > > > > > > > Compare this with May 23, 2003. Then only 39 people in the > > ranking, > > > > had a BEST time that was sub-20. I just can't get enough of > > statistics > > > > showing how the community is growing. :-) > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > Before I submitted mine, there were 99, making me the 100th. > > > > > > That's my 15 seconds of fame ;) > > > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolv ingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2949. DIY assembly
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:36:42 -0000

So I look at all these sites and there are supposedly two sets of washers? I only got one set of tiny plastic ones... do I seriously need super glue to get this thing going? What's the best way to go about doing this? Different sites tell me different things
2950. Re: [Speed cubing group] DIY assembly
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:07:42 -0800 (PST)

I think the old sites correspond to the first set of DIY's that were sold. Now, the screws have a fatter head, so a second set of washers is not necessary. As for the glue for the center caps, I heard that you can use paper to kind of, stuff the cap into place, but I still use super glue. I haven't had to adjust mine very often, so gluing isnt a problem for me. I hope this helps some. Frank kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: So I look at all these sites and there are supposedly two sets of washers? I only got one set of tiny plastic ones... do I seriously need super glue to get this thing going? What's the best way to go about doing this? Different sites tell me different things SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2951. Re: [Speed cubing group] One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:10:40 +0000 (GMT)

>Compare this with May 23, 2003. Wow! may 23, 2003 ? That was my 7th birth day. I had never seen a cube then. But, now I am one among you in the top-100. Thanks Gunner for your ststistics. I am inspired by you all. I may be the youngest. Who is the oldest? How old is he/she? How many are under 15 , under 12 and under 10. Just a curiosity to know. J.Bernett Orlando Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: I jsut noticed that there is now 100 people listed in speedcubings unofficial ranking that has a sub-20 average. Quite a milestone I think. :-) Compare this with May 23, 2003. Then only 39 people in the ranking, had a BEST time that was sub-20. I just can't get enough of statistics showing how the community is growing. :-) /Gunnar --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2952. Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:42:28 -0000

Hi ! With the given times : 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09 and anssi's claim of losing out 1 sec on the last solve due to a bad OLL this avg could have been: (14.08) 12.81 (12.77) 12.47 13.09 => 12.79 OMG! A sub 13 competition average!! Even if not a full 12/10 average that would have been absolutely crazy ;-) Congratz Anssi :D 13.22 aint so bad either :-P -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > ...and the scrambles were > > 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' > 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D F' > U' > 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 B2 > F2 > 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L R' > 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' B' > > /Anders > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > > > /Anders > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, > broke > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst > with > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 > times > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his > solves > > are > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > scrmbles > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > >
2953. Re: [Speed cubing group] DIY assembly
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:50:06 -0500

I can't believe the Rubik's site actually links to Ton's site for assembling a DIY cube. First of all, unless Ton is property of Rubiks.com, they have no guarantee that he's going to continue hosting his content. And second, none of his advice has anything to do with assembling a new DIY cube. The washer goes in first, then the spring, then the screw. No glue is needed to assemble the internals of the cube. On 3/20/06, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > I think the old sites correspond to the first set of DIY's that were > sold. Now, the screws have a fatter head, so a second set of washers is not > necessary. As for the glue for the center caps, I heard that you can use > paper to kind of, stuff the cap into place, but I still use super glue. I > haven't had to adjust mine very often, so gluing isnt a problem for me. I > hope this helps some. > > Frank > > > kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > So I look at all these sites and there are supposedly two sets of > washers? I only got one set of tiny plastic ones... do I seriously > need super glue to get this thing going? What's the best way to go > about doing this? Different sites tell me different things > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game > and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Travel > Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2954. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:00:30 -0800 (PST)

hey per, usually we drop the highest and lowest :P so more like (14.08) 12.81 12.77 (12.47) 13.09 av=12.89, still INSANE ----- Original Message ---- From: Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42:28 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!! Hi ! With the given times : 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09 and anssi's claim of losing out 1 sec on the last solve due to a bad OLL this avg could have been: (14.08) 12.81 (12.77) 12.47 13.09 => 12.79 OMG! A sub 13 competition average!! Even if not a full 12/10 average that would have been absolutely crazy ;-) Congratz Anssi :D 13.22 aint so bad either :-P -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > ...and the scrambles were > > 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' > 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D F' > U' > 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 B2 > F2 > 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L R' > 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' B' > > /Anders > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > > > /Anders > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, > broke > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst > with > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 > times > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his > solves > > are > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > scrmbles > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2955. [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:18:20 -0000

Haha ... One can tell im not having my best day ... a light flue .. and im tired ... ;-) -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > > hey per, usually we drop the highest and lowest :P > > so more like > (14.08) 12.81 12.77 (12.47) 13.09 > > av=12.89, still INSANE > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42:28 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!! > > Hi ! > > With the given times : 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09 and anssi's > claim of losing out 1 sec on the last solve due to a bad OLL this > avg could have been: > > (14.08) 12.81 (12.77) 12.47 13.09 => 12.79 > > OMG! A sub 13 competition average!! Even if not a full 12/10 average > that would have been absolutely crazy ;-) > > Congratz Anssi :D 13.22 aint so bad either :-P > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > ...and the scrambles were > > > > 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' > > 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D > F' > > U' > > 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 > B2 > > F2 > > 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L > R' > > 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' > B' > > > > /Anders > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > > > > > /Anders > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, > > broke > > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst > > with > > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of > 13.22 > > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. > He > > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 > > times > > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his > > solves > > > are > > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > > scrmbles > > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2956. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:27:59 -0800 (PST)

haha just giving a hard time, hope you feel better ----- Original Message ---- From: Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:18:20 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!! Haha ... One can tell im not having my best day ... a light flue .. and im tired ... ;-) -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > > hey per, usually we drop the highest and lowest :P > > so more like > (14.08) 12.81 12.77 (12.47) 13.09 > > av=12.89, still INSANE > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:42:28 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!! > > Hi ! > > With the given times : 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09 and anssi's > claim of losing out 1 sec on the last solve due to a bad OLL this > avg could have been: > > (14.08) 12.81 (12.77) 12.47 13.09 => 12.79 > > OMG! A sub 13 competition average!! Even if not a full 12/10 average > that would have been absolutely crazy ;-) > > Congratz Anssi :D 13.22 aint so bad either :-P > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > ...and the scrambles were > > > > 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' > > 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D > F' > > U' > > 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 > B2 > > F2 > > 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L > R' > > 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' > B' > > > > /Anders > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > > > > > /Anders > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, > > broke > > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst > > with > > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of > 13.22 > > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. > He > > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 > > times > > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his > > solves > > > are > > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > > scrmbles > > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2957. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:24:11 +0000

I know I'm not quite in the category you're asking about, but I can tell you that around the time of Worlds last year (Nov) I was practising quite regularly and I was averaging ~28.xx-29.xx. I haven't cubed much in the months since Worlds and did my first big cube session last weekend. I did ~160 solves and the average was ~30.7x. :( Also, I'd forgotten about 5-6 of the OLLs I'd learnt around the time of Worlds. :( Basically, any algs that hadn't moved into my long term memory by the time of Worlds have since been forgotten! So, I know I need to practice regular to maintain my average! On the plus side though, I'm confident that it will be pretty easy to re-learn the algs that I have forgotten. Also, I don't think it will take too long to get my average back down to 28.xx. For me, the thing that most excites and inspires me is cubing events and meeting up with other cubers. Late last year was great - Dutch Open in October, Worlds and Hungary in Nov, UK speedcubers meeting in Dec - plenty of speedcubing events to keep me going! Since I'm not going to the German Open (I'd *really* love to be there, but it's the same day as my brother's wedding!) it means I haven't practiced as much in recent months. I'm worried that my next big cubing event might not be till Dutch Open 2006!! That's so far away. I don't know if I can wait that long!! :D Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:28:56 -0500, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> said: > > This is curious to me. How much work does it take a sub-20 cuber to stay > in > shape? Daily practice? Weekly? Do you start forgetting algorithms, or > just get slower? > On 3/20/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Technically there are still 99 -- my average used to be sub20 but > > now it's not (but I just got my new DIY so maybe this will change > > once I get going :D). > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > > > <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I jsut noticed that there is now 100 people listed in > > speedcubings > > > > unofficial ranking that has a sub-20 average. Quite a milestone I > > > > think. :-) > > > > > > > > Compare this with May 23, 2003. Then only 39 people in the > > ranking, > > > > had a BEST time that was sub-20. I just can't get enough of > > statistics > > > > showing how the community is growing. :-) > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > Before I submitted mine, there were 99, making me the 100th. > > > > > > That's my 15 seconds of fame ;) > > > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<[1]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <[2]http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > -- > [3]http://procool.blogspot.com > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ____________________________________________________________ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "[4]speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [5]speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [6]Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > ____________________________________________________________ > > References > > 1. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > 2. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > 3. http://procool.blogspot.com/ > 4. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > 5. > mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe > 6. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service.
2958. [Speed cubing group] Re: One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:55:59 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > This is curious to me. How much work does it take a sub-20 cuber to stay in > shape? Daily practice? Weekly? Do you start forgetting algorithms, or > just get slower? Hey, Well.. I don't need daily 3x3 practice to stay sub-20... But that's because I am much faster than 20 seconds.. Usually, after not practicing for a week or two, I usually feel I lost 2 or 3 seconds or so when I pick up the cube again.. But after a nice amount of solves, it all gets back to me quickly. But during the first few cubes, I always feel like I lost my 'touch'. I think I've done all my CFOP algorithms somany times that I can't ever forget them... - Joël.
2959. BATG3
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:47:01 -0800

If anyone here is interested in participating in Beauty and the Geek 3, let me know. I'll help you through the application process. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
2960. Re: [Speed cubing group] BATG3
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:47:26 -0800

Oh, and hopefully your partner studies so you don't get kicked off early. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 20, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: > If anyone here is interested in participating in Beauty and the Geek 3, > let me know. I'll help you through the application process. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2961. Re: [Speed cubing group] BATG3
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:04:52 -0000

Oooooh...thats harsh...Any age/country requirements??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Oh, and hopefully your partner studies so you don't get kicked off > early. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 20, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: > > > If anyone here is interested in participating in Beauty and the Geek 3, > > let me know. I'll help you through the application process. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2962. Re: [Speed cubing group] BATG3 [OT]
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:31:33 -0800

Hey, they hand picked those girls specifically to be bad studiers... So I assume BATG3 will not be the one with geeky girls and beautiful boys? /Lars On Mar 20, 2006, at 18:47, Tyson Mao wrote: > Oh, and hopefully your partner studies so you don't get kicked off > early. > > > On Mar 20, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: > >> If anyone here is interested in participating in Beauty and the >> Geek 3, >> let me know. I'll help you through the application process. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology
2963. Re: [Speed cubing group] BATG3 [OT]
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:35:06 -0800

Hey Lars, That's true. The roles will still be the same, so they're looking for geeky men, and well, I figured if I was on there, someone in this forum might fit as well. You have to be 21 years old. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 20, 2006, at 7:31 PM, Lars Petrus wrote: > Hey, they hand picked those girls specifically to be bad studiers... > > So I assume BATG3 will not be the one with geeky girls and beautiful > boys? > > /Lars > > On Mar 20, 2006, at 18:47, Tyson Mao wrote: > >> Oh, and hopefully your partner studies so you don't get kicked off >> early. >> >> >> On Mar 20, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Tyson Mao wrote: >> >>> If anyone here is interested in participating in Beauty and the >>> Geek 3, >>> let me know. I'll help you through the application process. >>> >>> Tyson Mao >>> Astrophysics '06 >>> California Institute of Technology > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2964. Re: One hundred people are sub-20!!
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:14:25 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > > > This is curious to me. How much work does it take a sub-20 cuber > to stay in > > shape? Daily practice? Weekly? Do you start forgetting > algorithms, or > > just get slower? > > Hey, > > Well.. I don't need daily 3x3 practice to stay sub-20... But that's > because I am much faster than 20 seconds.. Usually, after not > practicing for a week or two, I usually feel I lost 2 or 3 seconds > or so when I pick up the cube again.. But after a nice amount of > solves, it all gets back to me quickly. But during the first few > cubes, I always feel like I lost my 'touch'. > > I think I've done all my CFOP algorithms somany times that I can't > ever forget them... > > - Joël. > Hi, I think that when your old, busted, wrinkled, delusional, losing your memory and have hands like stiff twigs; you get a cube in your hands, you can still remember almost any algorithm from back when you were speedcubing :P Erik
2965. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 AVARAGE!!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:35:56 +0000 (GMT)

And where are the videos? I really want to see this crazy fast solves Pedro Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@...> escreveu: ...and the scrambles were 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D F' U' 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 B2 F2 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L R' 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' B' /Anders --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > /Anders > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, broke > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst with > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 times > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his solves > are > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > scrmbles > > will also be available soon. > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2966. [Speed cubing group] Re: NEW FANTASTIC WORLD RECORD BY ANSSI VANHALA FOR 3x3x3 A
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:22:26 -0000

Anssis father filmed a lot, I guess all of Anssis solves. I hope he will put them on internet for downloading. There was also a swede that filmed a lot, and I think he is lokking for somewhere to put the clips. I'm not sure if he has started to edit it yet. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > And where are the videos? I really want to see this crazy fast solves > > Pedro > > Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@...> escreveu: > ...and the scrambles were > > 1) F' D' L' D L B F' L R' D' F2 D L R D' U2 L R F' R B2 F2 L F2 U' > 2) R' F2 L B U L R D2 L' B' F2 U2 B' D U2 R2 F2 L2 R2 U2 F2 R' D F' > U' > 3) B L' R' U2 B F D U2 B F' L' R F2 U' B' F' R2 B L' R' D2 L2 R2 B2 > F2 > 4) B' F2 U' B F' R B U R' D2 U2 L U2 F' D' U2 F2 L2 U F D' B U2 L R' > 5) D2 L R2 B2 D B2 F D' R B D U R' D' U' L' B2 F2 D' U B' D2 U R' B' > > /Anders > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > The individual times were 14.08 12.81 12.77 12.47 14.09. > > > > /Anders > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > Today at the swedish cube contest Anssi Vanhala from Finland, > broke > > > the world record for "3*3*3 - average of 5" two times. Fiurst > with > > > 14.40 in the semifinals and later with a fantastic time of 13.22 > > > seconds in the final round. No, I didn't write the time wrong. He > > > averaged 13.22!!!!! > > > > > > It was just amazing. I had three times below 13 seconds and 2 > times > > > just above 14 seconds. Best time was 12.47, and alot of his > solves > > are > > > captured on video, so you will be able to see them soon. The > > scrmbles > > > will also be available soon. > > > > > > /Gunnar Krig > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2967. finger frenzy game
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:29:31 -0000

I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is 3.9s http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp Michiel
2968. Re: finger frenzy game
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:56:12 -0000

Hey Michiel, Great game! I'm up to 2.894 so far. My routine has an ok beginning, a great middle, and a horrible end though. I can see how this can be made much faster. Need to work on a better way to begin and end, but I like my middle third a lot! Gonna keep working at this. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel >
2969. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:13:23 -0500

There's no way to keep this fair. Obviously the people in the high score list didn't play on an "honest" keyboard. If you re-map your keyboard from QWERTY to ABCDEF, there's no challenge. But it is a great game. If it would be possible to enforce one of a few keyboard configurations, I'd keep at it. But already the records are corrupt, so there's really no way to gauge what a competitive time would be. That's why I like the cube so much. It's impossible to cheat! :-) On 3/21/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hey Michiel, > > Great game! I'm up to 2.894 so far. My routine has an ok beginning, > a great middle, and a horrible end though. I can see how this can be > made much faster. > > Need to work on a better way to begin and end, but I like my middle > third a lot! > > Gonna keep working at this. > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" > > <blonkm@...> wrote: > > > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now > is > > 3.9s > > > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > > > Michiel > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2970. my own site, own notation system, easy roux method description on german
From: "thomasstadlerschweiz" <thomasstadler@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:52:12 -0000

hi, got created my own site. it's on german and specially for swiss cubers, because the official swiss record is more than 80 seconds :-) look inside and write the guestbook. thx thomas stadler (aus der schweiz :-)
2971. my own site, own notation system, easy roux method description on german
From: "thomasstadlerschweiz" <thomasstadler@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:55:01 -0000

www.speedcubingschweiz.cabanova.de thomas
2972. Re: finger frenzy game
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:58:01 -0000

hehe, me and quinn played this a while ago, I got down to 1.8 and he got down to 1.5, I think. the video high score list is the only decent one, you can see no cheating then. Oh, and there's a better way to cheat, write a program to send keypresses :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > There's no way to keep this fair. Obviously the people in the high score > list didn't play on an "honest" keyboard. If you re-map your keyboard from > QWERTY to ABCDEF, there's no challenge. > > But it is a great game. If it would be possible to enforce one of a few > keyboard configurations, I'd keep at it. But already the records are > corrupt, so there's really no way to gauge what a competitive time would > be. That's why I like the cube so much. It's impossible to cheat! :-) > > > On 3/21/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hey Michiel, > > > > Great game! I'm up to 2.894 so far. My routine has an ok beginning, > > a great middle, and a horrible end though. I can see how this can be > > made much faster. > > > > Need to work on a better way to begin and end, but I like my middle > > third a lot! > > > > Gonna keep working at this. > > > > Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" > > > > <blonkm@> wrote: > > > > > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now > > is > > > 3.9s > > > > > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > > > > > Michiel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2973. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:32:31 -0800

What about dvorak? That should be easily legal. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:58 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > hehe, > > me and quinn played this a while ago, I got down to 1.8 and he got > down to 1.5, I think. > > the video high score list is the only decent one, you can see no > cheating then. > > Oh, and there's a better way to cheat, write a program to send > keypresses :) > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@...> wrote: >> >> There's no way to keep this fair. Obviously the people in the high > score >> list didn't play on an "honest" keyboard. If you re-map your > keyboard from >> QWERTY to ABCDEF, there's no challenge. >> >> But it is a great game. If it would be possible to enforce one of a >> few >> keyboard configurations, I'd keep at it. But already the records are >> corrupt, so there's really no way to gauge what a competitive time >> would >> be. That's why I like the cube so much. It's impossible to cheat! >> :-) >> >> >> On 3/21/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Michiel, >>> >>> Great game! I'm up to 2.894 so far. My routine has an ok beginning, >>> a great middle, and a horrible end though. I can see how this can be >>> made much faster. >>> >>> Need to work on a better way to begin and end, but I like my middle >>> third a lot! >>> >>> Gonna keep working at this. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der >>> Blonk" >>> >>> <blonkm@> wrote: >>>> >>>> I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now >>> is >>>> 3.9s >>>> >>>> http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp >>>> >>>> Michiel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SPONSORED LINKS >>> Jigsaw puzzle > game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+ga > mes&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+ga > me&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> > Free >>> puzzle inlay > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inl > ay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzz > le+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> > Educational >>> game and > puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle > +inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+ > puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> > Word >>> puzzle > game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+game > s&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game > &w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> > Kid >>> puzzle > game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games > &w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game& > w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> > Puzzle >>> > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3 > =Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6= > Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> >>> ------------------------------ >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>> >>> >>> - Visit your group > "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ > speedsolvingrubikscube>" >>> on the web. >>> >>> - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> > speedsolvingrubikscube- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> >>> >>> - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >>> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2974. OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:18:56 -0000

So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give it a go. MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing around! I studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing another go, and the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. In other news I just recently had a breakup with my girlfriend :( I am not very happy right now.
2975. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:31:58 -0800

Sorry to hear about that. Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think that these DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good one? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give it a go. > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing around! I > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing another go, and > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my girlfriend :( I am > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
2976. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:37:27 -0000

The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little smoother as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I am on the lookout for the Prestone brand. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Sorry to hear about that. > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think that these > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good one? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give it a go. > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing around! I > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing another go, and > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my girlfriend : ( I am > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2977. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:47:11 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just bought a white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could not put them together The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little smoother > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I am on > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think that > these > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good one? > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give it > a go. > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > around! I > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing another > go, and > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my girlfriend : > ( I am > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2978. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:26:53 -0000

I like to assemble as follows: 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces wet (replace them if they do). 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and loosening each screw the same amount. 8. Sticker and enjoy! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just bought a > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could not > put them together > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little smoother > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I am on > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think that > > these > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good one? > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give it > > a go. > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > around! I > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing another > > go, and > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my girlfriend : > > ( I am > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2979. [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:06:09 -0000

No, I assume it'd produce different results, either slower or faster. Dvorak is fun, I had a serious go at trying to convert to it a while ago, no luck though, and now I'm on a laptop. No new layout for me :( ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > What about dvorak? That should be easily legal. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 10:58 AM, thomkirjava wrote: > > > hehe, > > > > me and quinn played this a while ago, I got down to 1.8 and he got > > down to 1.5, I think. > > > > the video high score list is the only decent one, you can see no > > cheating then. > > > > Oh, and there's a better way to cheat, write a program to send > > keypresses :) > > > > ~Thom > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > > <mmoberly@> wrote: > >> > >> There's no way to keep this fair. Obviously the people in the high > > score > >> list didn't play on an "honest" keyboard. If you re-map your > > keyboard from > >> QWERTY to ABCDEF, there's no challenge. > >> > >> But it is a great game. If it would be possible to enforce one of a > >> few > >> keyboard configurations, I'd keep at it. But already the records are > >> corrupt, so there's really no way to gauge what a competitive time > >> would > >> be. That's why I like the cube so much. It's impossible to cheat! > >> :-) > >> > >> > >> On 3/21/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Michiel, > >>> > >>> Great game! I'm up to 2.894 so far. My routine has an ok beginning, > >>> a great middle, and a horrible end though. I can see how this can be > >>> made much faster. > >>> > >>> Need to work on a better way to begin and end, but I like my middle > >>> third a lot! > >>> > >>> Gonna keep working at this. > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der > >>> Blonk" > >>> > >>> <blonkm@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now > >>> is > >>>> 3.9s > >>>> > >>>> http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > >>>> > >>>> Michiel > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> SPONSORED LINKS > >>> Jigsaw puzzle > > game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+ga > > mes&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+ga > > me&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> > > Free > >>> puzzle inlay > > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inl > > ay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzz > > le+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> > > Educational > >>> game and > > puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle > > +inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+ > > puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> > > Word > >>> puzzle > > game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+game > > s&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game > > &w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> > > Kid > >>> puzzle > > game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games > > &w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game& > > w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> > > Puzzle > >>> > > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? > > t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3 > > =Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6= > > Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >>> > >>> > >>> - Visit your group > > "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ > > speedsolvingrubikscube>" > >>> on the web. > >>> > >>> - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >>> > > speedsolvingrubikscube- > > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube- > > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > >>> > >>> - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > >>> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2980. Re: finger frenzy game
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:23:06 -0000

Pff.. My first try was about 15 seconds.. hahaha.. I am not a very fast typist.. Maybe I'll try again. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel >
2981. Re: finger frenzy game
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:27:31 -0000

Ok, 8.016... It takes some practice :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel >
2982. Re: finger frenzy game
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:47:18 -0000

Allright... 5.64 is my record now.. I usually forget the S in the end part somehow.. But its fun to practice this :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel >
2983. Re: finger frenzy game
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:03:46 -0000

> > Allright... 5.64 is my record now.. > > I usually forget the S in the end part somehow.. But its fun to > practice this :) > Hey Joel, Don't try to type it correctly, try to view it as a finger trick on the cube. I use QWERTY and I did this, Start with left hand ring finger on "A", left hand index finger on "D" right hand index finger on "C" and right hand middle finger on "B". Now press the keys in order and then press "E" with you left index then drag your right index finger over "F" "G" and "H" hitting all three, then hit "I" with your left index while pausing your right index finger. Once you've hit "I" continue dragging your right index finger over "J" "K" "L" hitting all three. Then I drag for "M" and "N" then also for "O" and "P" then for Q-Z I just hit the keys alternating left and right hand fingers. That's the part I don't have a routine for, and the end is much slower than my beginning. I can see how doing it with dragging for hitting groups of nearby keys can help. For example if you have to hit "Q" then "R" then "S" just drag your left index from "Q" to "R" hitting all keys in between then drag back over "E" then diagonal to "S". Don't worry that you hit more keys, the program has no penalty for this and also you can hit them faster this way than by conventional typing. Just my thoughts, no idea how to get this under 2 seconds. I imagine you have to use a better routine than what I do. Also I like the idea of mapping the keyboard to ABCDEFGH and just dragging a finger across each row, hitting all keys in 0.1 seconds or something :-) But of course that would be cheating. I wonder if QWERTY or DVORAK would be faster, which has keys grouped together well for dragging your finger across them? Either way this is fun, it's like trying to find a fast way to do a cube PL alg, we have the moves, now how do we do them quickly? Chris
2984. Re: finger frenzy game
From: "Dan" <dan_j_harris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:11:59 -0000

2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't try to improve unless a cuber beats it :) DanH :)
2985. Re: [Speed cubing group] finger frenzy game
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:23:09 +1100

On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 05:29:31PM -0000, Michiel van der Blonk wrote: > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel 2.41102392s Ryan
2986. Re: finger frenzy game
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:47:46 -0000

I can't believe you wrote all that for typing some stupid alfabet! Whaha... I cant really type without using the 10 finger system... It feels like I am doing something really bad.. :D... whhaha.. I got my record down to 3.453 by now.. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > > Allright... 5.64 is my record now.. > > > > I usually forget the S in the end part somehow.. But its fun to > > practice this :) > > > > Hey Joel, > > Don't try to type it correctly, try to view it as a finger trick on > the cube. > > I use QWERTY and I did this, > > Start with left hand ring finger on "A", left hand index finger on "D" > right hand index finger on "C" and right hand middle finger on "B". > > Now press the keys in order and then press "E" with you left index > then drag your right index finger over "F" "G" and "H" hitting all > three, then hit "I" with your left index while pausing your right > index finger. Once you've hit "I" continue dragging your right index > finger over "J" "K" "L" hitting all three. > > Then I drag for "M" and "N" then also for "O" and "P" then for Q-Z I > just hit the keys alternating left and right hand fingers. That's the > part I don't have a routine for, and the end is much slower than my > beginning. > > I can see how doing it with dragging for hitting groups of nearby keys > can help. For example if you have to hit "Q" then "R" then "S" just > drag your left index from "Q" to "R" hitting all keys in between then > drag back over "E" then diagonal to "S". > > Don't worry that you hit more keys, the program has no penalty for > this and also you can hit them faster this way than by conventional > typing. > > Just my thoughts, no idea how to get this under 2 seconds. I imagine > you have to use a better routine than what I do. > > Also I like the idea of mapping the keyboard to ABCDEFGH and just > dragging a finger across each row, hitting all keys in 0.1 seconds or > something :-) But of course that would be cheating. > > I wonder if QWERTY or DVORAK would be faster, which has keys grouped > together well for dragging your finger across them? > > Either way this is fun, it's like trying to find a fast way to do a > cube PL alg, we have the moves, now how do we do them quickly? > > Chris >
2987. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: DT <thunderpants16@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:30:29 -0800 (PST)

Do you know why is it that the corners are loose even though I tightened the screws on each center piece as tight as possible without breaking it and yet the corners feel loose. --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I like to assemble as follows: > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the > washer. Make the > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for > all six. > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way > into one of the > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then > screw it into the > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as > possible. Stop when > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all > six. > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the > cube. > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as > the center (use > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper > before cutting). > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should > rest neatly > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the > cap onto the > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The > tension will > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any > stray plastic > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an > opening near a > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the > opening, then > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get > the paper pieces > wet (replace them if they do). > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the > center caps and > loosening each screw the same amount. > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > kyuubree <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them > together?I just bought a > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's > site i could not > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go > a little > smoother > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels > like yet but I > am on > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? > Do you think > that > > > these > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got > lucky with a good > one? > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little > package and give > it > > > a go. > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless > to move thing > > > around! I > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the > speedcubing > another > > > go, and > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with > my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup > with my > girlfriend : > > > ( I am > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2988. Re: finger frenzy game
From: "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:55:17 -0000

If you all think that is fun, then you should try the backwards frenzy..that is so much more fun... http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp?gameId=1 my best time is 5.922s. ---Zarqa-- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel >
2989. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:02:33 -0800 (PST)

3.96!!!! w00t!! --- Jo�l van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > Ok, 8.016... > > It takes some practice :) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "Michiel van der Blonk" > <blonkm@...> wrote: > > > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. > My record upto now > is > > 3.9s > > > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > > > Michiel > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2990. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:35:44 -0000

Did you use the washers? There may be a tiny rattle when you shake the cube, but not much. It's probably due to the lack of that annoying tab that the old ones had. That made the corners not rattle, but it also made for very uneven tightness, depending on the orientation of adjacent corners. I test a cube by doing the following: Grab the BUL and BUR corners and pry the L and R faces apart from each other. The gap between these two corners and the BU edge should be about 2mm. Then when you release them, they should spring back and touch the BU edge again. If the cube is too loose, it won't spring back properly, leaving a gap between corner and edge (a lot of store-bought cubes suffer this problem). If it's too tight, you will barely be able to get them apart 2mm. I'm not using a micrometer or anything, so it may be more like 1.7mm or something. And of course, everyone has a different preference depending on their cubing style. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, DT <thunderpants16@...> wrote: > > Do you know why is it that the corners are loose even > though I tightened the screws on each center piece as > tight as possible without breaking it and yet the > corners feel loose. > > --- christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: > > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the > > washer. Make the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for > > all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way > > into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then > > screw it into the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as > > possible. Stop when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all > > six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the > > cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as > > the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper > > before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should > > rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the > > cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The > > tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any > > stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an > > opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the > > opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get > > the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the > > center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > kyuubree <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them > > together?I just bought a > > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's > > site i could not > > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go > > a little > > smoother > > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels > > like yet but I > > am on > > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > > Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? > > Do you think > > that > > > > these > > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got > > lucky with a good > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little > > package and give > > it > > > > a go. > > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless > > to move thing > > > > around! I > > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the > > speedcubing > > another > > > > go, and > > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with > > my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup > > with my > > girlfriend : > > > > ( I am > > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Winners forget they're in a race, they just love to run. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2991. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:45:41 -0800

Wow. After writing a rock paper scissors program, this game was the second program I ever wrote. Or possibly it was a memory test program, where you're shown a number of digits, and have to retype them, and I think a similar thing was posted here a while back too. This was in BASIC in 1975. I remember getting insanely fast, which I think that 2 seconds and change. That's the Swedish 28 character alphabet. We don't use W, so that's where I get stuck on this one. And I don't do any of the 'cde', 'fgh', 'jkl' slides yet. But it's still programmed in the old brain. My best time in 10 minutes i 3.84 - - - - - - - - - - - - "Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop believing in it" --- Philip K Dick Lars Petrus, lars@... http://lar5.com
2992. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:18:40 -0800 (PST)

i poaned ur record after getting 3.13! =0 yoda says: loads do i poan --- Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > Wow. After writing a rock paper scissors program, > this game was the > second program I ever wrote. Or possibly it was a > memory test > program, where you're shown a number of digits, and > have to retype > them, and I think a similar thing was posted here a > while back too. > This was in BASIC in 1975. > > I remember getting insanely fast, which I think that > 2 seconds and > change. That's the Swedish 28 character alphabet. We > don't use W, so > that's where I get stuck on this one. And I don't do > any of the > 'cde', 'fgh', 'jkl' slides yet. But it's still > programmed in the old > brain. My best time in 10 minutes i 3.84 > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop > believing in it" > --- Philip K Dick > > Lars Petrus, lars@... http://lar5.com > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2993. eastsheen
From: "Evan" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:22:24 -0000

So is it possible to buy eastsheen cubes directly from eastsheen? Or do you have to buy through some other retailer? I can't find anything on their site about it. -Evan
2994. Back to it after 25 years
From: "mark" <markspangler@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 05:32:12 -0000

Got my original cube way long ago. Learned to solve and had average of about 40 seconds in the 80's (which was pretty cool for everyone I knew) - now my 10 year old son is interested, but he can't have my original Hungarian cube. Seems every cube we find is a hunk of junk with what I consider messed up colors. Here is what I have and can anybody give me a lead on what to buy that is like it or better. Smooth action - seems to be made of a softer plastic with very smooth mechanism. All other cubes I pick up are terrible. Colors - red opposite orange, yellow opposite white and blue opposite green. (is this standard color or am I working in the dark ages) I always hated the cubes that have white and yellow together - doesn't seem to be enough contrast on white/yellow and green/blue. Let me know about ideas thanks mark
2995. Re: eastsheen
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:35:25 -0000

Mefferts.com Free shipping! --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" <evan.gates@...> wrote: > > So is it possible to buy eastsheen cubes directly from eastsheen? Or > do you have to buy through some other retailer? I can't find anything > on their site about it. > > -Evan >
2996. Re: [Speed cubing group] Back to it after 25 years
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:58:44 -0000

Your preferred colouring is the same as mine Mark - shows what old cubers we are! You are right, generally hard to get that combination these days. Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark" <markspangler@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:32 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Back to it after 25 years > Got my original cube way long ago. Learned to solve and had average > of about 40 seconds in the 80's (which was pretty cool for everyone I > knew) - now my 10 year old son is interested, but he can't have my > original Hungarian cube. > > Seems every cube we find is a hunk of junk with what I consider > messed up colors. > > Here is what I have and can anybody give me a lead on what to buy > that is like it or better. > > Smooth action - seems to be made of a softer plastic with very smooth > mechanism. All other cubes I pick up are terrible. > > Colors - red opposite orange, yellow opposite white and blue opposite > green. (is this standard color or am I working in the dark ages) I > always hated the cubes that have white and yellow together - doesn't > seem to be enough contrast on white/yellow and green/blue. > > Let me know about ideas > thanks > mark > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2997. Re: finger frenzy game
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:39:52 -0000

My first attempt was over 10 seconds, but I got it down to 3.594s. sub-3 seems very hard but not impossible. /Gunnar > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" > <blonkm@> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now > is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel
2998. [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:47:08 -0000

I just get my record down to 3.453, but my way of doing q-z is awful. The middle part is like 10 letters/second. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...> wrote: > > i poaned ur record after getting 3.13! =0 > > yoda says: loads do i poan > > --- Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > > Wow. After writing a rock paper scissors program, > > this game was the > > second program I ever wrote. Or possibly it was a > > memory test > > program, where you're shown a number of digits, and > > have to retype > > them, and I think a similar thing was posted here a > > while back too. > > This was in BASIC in 1975. > > > > I remember getting insanely fast, which I think that > > 2 seconds and > > change. That's the Swedish 28 character alphabet. We > > don't use W, so > > that's where I get stuck on this one. And I don't do > > any of the > > 'cde', 'fgh', 'jkl' slides yet. But it's still > > programmed in the old > > brain. My best time in 10 minutes i 3.84 > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > > "Reality is what refuses to go away when you stop > > believing in it" > > --- Philip K Dick > > > > Lars Petrus, lars@... http://lar5.com > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... > just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... > some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > and i solve it faster behind my back... > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... > speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2999. Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:16:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > Your preferred colouring is the same as mine Mark - shows what old cubers we > are! You are right, generally hard to get that combination these days. Don't most people here use white opp yellow? I didn't think it was a sign of old age. The 25th anniversary cubes (at any rate the ones in Tesco in the UK right now) have white opp yellow... it might be a special "retro" edition, I suppose. Pity the quality isn't also "retro". :( Mike
3000. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:02:27 +0100

I have bought the 25th from different places and they all have the "old" combinations. But it´s a myth that the old ones absolutly were good ones. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:16 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" > <duncan@...> wrote: > > Your preferred colouring is the same as mine Mark - shows what old > cubers we > > are! You are right, generally hard to get that combination these > days. > > Don't most people here use white opp yellow? I didn't think it was a > sign of old age. > > The 25th anniversary cubes (at any rate the ones in Tesco in the UK > right now) have white opp yellow... it might be a special "retro" > edition, I suppose. Pity the quality isn't also "retro". :( > > Mike > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3001. Re: [Speed cubing group] finger frenzy game
From: "Johannes Laire" <johannes.laire@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:35:47 +0200

I just got 2.327. Gonna practice until get sub-2... - Johannes Laire On 3/21/06, Michiel van der Blonk <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3002. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:36:20 +0100

Though, some old cubes have the BYO color scheme, instead of the BOY which is nowadays the most common. No ? Gilles. 2006/3/22, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>: > I have bought the 25th from different places and they all have the "old" combinations. But it´s a myth that the old ones absolutly were good ones. > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:16 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" > > <duncan@...> wrote: > > > Your preferred colouring is the same as mine Mark - shows what old > > cubers we > > > are! You are right, generally hard to get that combination these > > days. > > > > Don't most people here use white opp yellow? I didn't think it was a > > sign of old age. > > > > The 25th anniversary cubes (at any rate the ones in Tesco in the UK > > right now) have white opp yellow... it might be a special "retro" > > edition, I suppose. Pity the quality isn't also "retro". :( > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3003. Re: [Speed cubing group] finger frenzy game
From: "Johannes Laire" <johannes.laire@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:42:38 +0200

OMG!! 1,89385180. - Johannes laire On 3/22/06, Johannes Laire <johannes.laire@...> wrote: > > I just got 2.327. Gonna practice until get sub-2... > > - > Johannes Laire > > > On 3/21/06, Michiel van der Blonk <blonkm@...> wrote: > > > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > > 3.9s > > > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > > > Michiel > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw> Free > > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw> Educational > > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ> Word > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> Kid > > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> Puzzle > > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3004. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:21:40 +0100

Yes, quite right. If you bought a cube in the early 80ies, you got, as I see it, with a 50% chance a BOY or BYO cube. (Now I never get a BYO cube). R From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@gmail.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years Though, some old cubes have the BYO color scheme, instead of the BOY which is nowadays the most common. No ? Gilles. 2006/3/22, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>: > I have bought the 25th from different places and they all have the "old" combinations. But it´s a myth that the old ones absolutly were good ones. > R > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:16 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" > > <duncan@...> wrote: > > > Your preferred colouring is the same as mine Mark - shows what old > > cubers we > > > are! You are right, generally hard to get that combination these > > days. > > > > Don't most people here use white opp yellow? I didn't think it was a > > sign of old age. > > > > The 25th anniversary cubes (at any rate the ones in Tesco in the UK > > right now) have white opp yellow... it might be a special "retro" > > edition, I suppose. Pity the quality isn't also "retro". :( > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
3005. Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:05:59 -0000

Sounds like a Studio Cube would fit your needs. Head over to TwistyPuzzles.com and check the marketplace forum. Or look on Ebay. The Rubik's Studio cubes are essentially identical to the best 1980's cubes (complete with vinyl stickers, flourescent orange, old logo, the color scheme you like, and soft plastic). It's basically like having access to a time machine to the 80s! But cube technology has improved, and you might find a DIY kit better in the long run for serious speedcubing. Also don't forget cubesmith.com for sticker replacements. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mark" <markspangler@...> wrote: > Smooth action - seems to be made of a softer plastic with very smooth > mechanism. All other cubes I pick up are terrible. > > Colors - red opposite orange, yellow opposite white and blue opposite > green. (is this standard color or am I working in the dark ages) I > always hated the cubes that have white and yellow together - doesn't > seem to be enough contrast on white/yellow and green/blue. > > Let me know about ideas > thanks > mark >
3006. Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:51:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > I have bought the 25th from different places and they all have the "old" combinations. But it´s a myth that the old ones absolutly were good ones. No, it wasn't meant as an absolute endorsement of the old cubes. But the 25th now being sold in the Tesco supermarkets here can be /truly/ awful. The rivets have been hammered in so tight that the cube will barely turn -- even a mediocre old cube would be better! Mike
3007. Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:13:25 -0000

I often read enthusiastic posts about cube X or cube Y. But: 1) Quality is not a constant. 2) It depends on personal preference or dexterity (mood...). For example I liked the soft plastic of Studio cubes a lot, but I can't use them because of the "pop" factor. But Studio cubes are perfect for other cubers. There's no such thing as a perfect speedcube. I agree that the perfect speedcubes from the eighties are a myth. By the way, I remember Jessica telling me that one of the reasons why speedcubers are now faster may be the quality of cubes regarding speed. I would recommend buying a Rubik's DIY cube. Because you assemble it (with screws), you'll get something that's at least good enough. My problem comes from the 4^3. I bought 4 cubes, and they're all good for nothing. I wanted to practice to get faster, but with such a piece of crap, I can't average sub-90. Fred Badie and Frank Morris told me they were given very good cubes in Toronto, still usable and fast. Mine become loose after 2 weeks! I give up. Gilles.
3008. Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:57:02 -0000

Agreed! My own enthusiasm comes from the fact that for many years during the 90s, it seemed difficult to find the perfect cube. I had a few cubes from 1981-82, but for collector's purposes I didn't want to continue beating them up. Yet the new ones (OzzdOn) had terrible stickers. Meffert's assembly cubes were good from an aesthetic standpoint, but not for speedcubing. Now it seems that we are in a golden age of cubing, where we not only have access to various excellent cubes (anniversary, DIY, white DIY, studio, Eastsheen) but also cheap access to the technology to improve and customize them even further (CubeSmith, silicone oil, etc.) And I agree that the new cubes have probably contributed significantly to the ability for top cubers to achieve the (formerly) unimaginably fast solve times. Still, the quest for the perfect cube continues. And of course, many of us still dream of an electronic cube, with LED or LCD panels for stickers, built-in timer, recognition of solved state, instant randomize, etc. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > I often read enthusiastic posts about cube X or cube Y. > But: > 1) Quality is not a constant. > 2) It depends on personal preference or dexterity (mood...)
3009. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:42:27 +0100

----- Original Message ----- From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 5:51 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Back to it after 25 years --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > I have bought the 25th from different places and they all have the "old" combinations. But it´s a myth that the old ones absolutly were good ones. No, it wasn't meant as an absolute endorsement of the old cubes. But the 25th now being sold in the Tesco supermarkets here can be /truly/ awful. The rivets have been hammered in so tight that the cube will barely turn -- even a mediocre old cube would be better! Mike Yes, the old screws (and the new) do have there advantage. IF you can open the cap and adjust them. It happened to me more than once that I had to saw it away, only to see that the middle was filled up with glue.Many, many in the old times bought themselves only one cube and to get such a failure must have been very frustrating.. R Yahoo! Groups Links
3010. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:06:44 +0100

Would you say that a statement like: "H2O can be water" is bad? I can agree that it might be a bad language but it must be logically correct. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube Actually let me correct my statement from an hour ago. Saying "silicone can be oil" is just as bad as "silicone is oil". What I meant was "If you have some (specific) silicone, it can be oil.". But I should better just say "some silicones are oil". Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I think everybody will agree with you that a statement of type "silicone is silicone" is correct. But the statement "neither it is oil" is correct, only if you with siliconE understand silicon. (*You* must know). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > Yes I was, thanks for clearing that up :-). I've been aware that I > didn't know whether to spell it with the 'e', but I didn't think both > versions are correct and mean very different things. But I claim the > statement is correct for both versions, except the paper/book analogy > (which was terrible anyway...). Meant to just say silicon(e) is not > one fixed product but comes in many different ways... > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > I think you are mixing up silicon and silicone(s). > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 11:00 AM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: The DIY cubes + lube > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > <grsbmd@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But they describe their lube as a wax, which (I'm not up on my > > > > organic chem, however) I didn't think silicone was? > > > > > > > > -Ben. > > > > > > That's right, silicone is no wax. Neither is it a spray. Neither > is it > > > oil. Silicone is silicone. Just like paper is not a book. > > > > > > Stefan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links
3011. one handed solving speed...
From: "ericdstalter" <ericdstalter@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:59:26 -0000

I just tried one handed for the first time and timed myself. Did 3 solves, (2:23, 2:28, 2:19) (avr. w/2hands = 45s) I know that practice will bring my times down and when my solving 2hand time comes down, but do most solvers use a different method? I use Petrus. if people do use a different method, to make it easier to do alg's, then where is that information on the web? Eric
3012. Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:14:57 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > hey micheal, i don't know if you saw it in that long post anywhere so i'll repost it for you > > this is FREDERICK BADIE'S ALG: > > For your "dreaded 10th case", I posted : > (F2) (Rr) D2 (Rr)' F2 U2 F2 (Ll) B2 (Ll)' F2 > It's in the message 12920. Some more ideas... The alg Craig posted but with proper setup moves: R U' F (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 Please try on 3x3 and translate to 5x5 (hope you get the idea): U' 2*(R2' U' r2 U F2) U Cheers! Stefan
3013. Re: cool parity alg for the 5x5
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:08:44 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Please try on 3x3 and translate to 5x5 (hope you get the idea): > U' 2*(R2' U' r2 U F2) U I just realized the inner part might be interesting for some orient-first 3x3 blindcubers: 2 * (R2' U' r2 U F2) And of course also its various variations, e.g. 2 * (F2 R2' U' r2 U) 2 * (U F2 R2' U' r2) 2 * (L2 U l2 U' F2) Cheers! Stefan
3014. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:08:50 -0800 (PST)

2.63 hah beat that --- Dan <dan_j_harris@...> wrote: > 2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't try to > improve unless a > cuber beats it :) > > DanH :) > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3015. [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:52:26 -0000

Well, my best time is 2.61, and I've been sub-2.7 10 times or so. :-) /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...> wrote: > > 2.63 hah beat that > > --- Dan <dan_j_harris@...> wrote: > > > 2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't try to > > improve unless a > > cuber beats it :) > > > > DanH :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... > just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... > some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > and i solve it faster behind my back... > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... > speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
3016. some of you owe me
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: caltechrubiks@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 01:10:47 -0800

Okay, so this is what happened. Originally, I was going to do US Nationals at Caltech, and everything was going to be very quick and easy, but then someone, and I think his name begins with a "Mike," spoke up and said that something like Vegas would be really fun. Then more of you guys, (rhymes with badam) chimed in and agreed that US Nationals 2006 in Vegas would be really fun. I'm really close to this. However, I need help from you guys. Basically, I'm going to look like a fool if we can't draw 100 competitors, so please help me out. The competition is scheduled for August 5 and 6. That's a weekend, Saturday to Sunday. We had 56 people for US Nationals. Everyone native to California is within driving distance of Vegas. That should be 100 people right there. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm putting a lot on the line here. If this thing flops, I look like a big fool, people get pissed at me, and all that other stuff, and it just sucks a lot for me. So yeah, tell your friends, get people addicted to cubing, get people to go to US Nationals. Look at your calendars, try to keep August 5 to 6 free, and yes... The goal... 100 competitors, or else Tyson sucks. I'll look really bad if 20 people show up to this thing. Is money your problem? I have ideas to help you raise money. If you can find a large group of people who want to learn how to cube, I'll try to work out a way so that you can get cubes for cheap, sell them, and make some money to go to Vegas. Or do what Frank Morris does and get a company to sponsor you. Please come! Note — Vegas is not finalized yet, but it's getting really close, and I'm going to be very nervous if it does get finalized... because I'm basically promising them 100 competitors. We had 56 in San Francisco... we should be able to do 100 for a national competition. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3017. US Nationals 2006
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 01:19:05 -0800

Hi Everyone, Just so the non-United States people know about this, the US National 2006 competition will be open to everyone. We're going to host international competitors in a "separate" bracket so the press doesn't get confused. Two years ago, we had some article about Chotaru Makiyzumi being disqualified for being Japanese. So, international competitors will be in their own bracket, but we'll compile the results so you can see where you would have stacked up. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3018. [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:20:44 -0000

My computer at home is too slow, so when I'm done it goes on till all letters have passed, the times there are like 10 sec... Now I am in computer science class (with faster computers), my best time is 2.824. Nice game, I did it a couple of months ago too. Funny that it's now popular among speedcubers. Erik --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Well, my best time is 2.61, and I've been sub-2.7 10 times or so. :- ) > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller- nicolato > <maltmn@> wrote: > > > > 2.63 hah beat that > > > > --- Dan <dan_j_harris@> wrote: > > > > > 2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't try to > > > improve unless a > > > cuber beats it :) > > > > > > DanH :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... > > just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... > > some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... > > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > > you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... > > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > > and i solve it faster behind my back... > > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... > > speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... > > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > >
3019. Re: US Nationals 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:12:00 -0000

Hey Tyson, I'm trying really hard to come, but I dunno if I'm going to be able to make it. I've wanted to since I heard about it, but I'll have to wait and see. I'm also looking into finally going to some other competitions soon...:) Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Just so the non-United States people know about this, the US National > 2006 competition will be open to everyone. We're going to host > international competitors in a "separate" bracket so the press doesn't > get confused. Two years ago, we had some article about Chotaru > Makiyzumi being disqualified for being Japanese. > > So, international competitors will be in their own bracket, but we'll > compile the results so you can see where you would have stacked up. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3020. [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:44:47 -0000

I improved my record, it's now 1.828 sec. I think I can't go any faster... Erik --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > My computer at home is too slow, so when I'm done it goes on till all > letters have passed, the times there are like 10 sec... Now I am in > computer science class (with faster computers), my best time is 2.824. > Nice game, I did it a couple of months ago too. Funny that it's now > popular among speedcubers. > > Erik > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Well, my best time is 2.61, and I've been sub-2.7 10 times or so. :- > ) > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller- > nicolato > > <maltmn@> wrote: > > > > > > 2.63 hah beat that > > > > > > --- Dan <dan_j_harris@> wrote: > > > > > > > 2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't try to > > > > improve unless a > > > > cuber beats it :) > > > > > > > > DanH :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > > > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > > > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > > > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > > > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... > > > just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... > > > some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... > > > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > > > you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... > > > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > > > and i solve it faster behind my back... > > > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > > > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > > > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... > > > speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... > > > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >
3021. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:15:54 +0100

If plenty of time, why not try to beat Les Stewart´s record? (Typewriting). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...u.se> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game > Well, my best time is 2.61, and I've been sub-2.7 10 times or so. :-) > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, matteo miller-nicolato > <maltmn@...> wrote: > > > > 2.63 hah beat that > > > > --- Dan <dan_j_harris@...> wrote: > > > > > 2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't try to > > > improve unless a > > > cuber beats it :) > > > > > > DanH :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... > > just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... > > some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... > > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > > you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... > > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > > and i solve it faster behind my back... > > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... > > speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... > > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3022. Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:37:12 +0100

Hello cubeheads! This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner method. Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast out there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to share them with me. At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside me, printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm starting to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What was your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if I learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn into a bad habit. Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought of, but can't remember at the moment. Best regards, Aron Stansvik
3023. Re: [Speed cubing group] some of you owe me
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:24:27 +0100

Is it going to be an open or a closed competition ? I don't promise at all that I'll come, but I guess that you might have some canadian guys who would be interested in that championship. Just a thought. Just a small note : hotels in Las Vegas are quite cheap, what's expensive is the casino :D Congratulations Tyson for this organisation that looks like a quite big event. Have fun ! Gilles 2006/3/23, Tyson Mao <tmao@...>: > Okay, so this is what happened. Originally, I was going to do US > Nationals at Caltech, and everything was going to be very quick and > easy, but then someone, and I think his name begins with a "Mike," > spoke up and said that something like Vegas would be really fun. Then > more of you guys, (rhymes with badam) chimed in and agreed that US > Nationals 2006 in Vegas would be really fun. > > I'm really close to this. However, I need help from you guys. > Basically, I'm going to look like a fool if we can't draw 100 > competitors, so please help me out. The competition is scheduled for > August 5 and 6. That's a weekend, Saturday to Sunday. > > We had 56 people for US Nationals. Everyone native to California is > within driving distance of Vegas. That should be 100 people right > there. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm putting a lot on the line here. If this > thing flops, I look like a big fool, people get pissed at me, and all > that other stuff, and it just sucks a lot for me. > > So yeah, tell your friends, get people addicted to cubing, get people > to go to US Nationals. Look at your calendars, try to keep August 5 to > 6 free, and yes... > > The goal... 100 competitors, or else Tyson sucks. I'll look really bad > if 20 people show up to this thing. > > Is money your problem? I have ideas to help you raise money. If you > can find a large group of people who want to learn how to cube, I'll > try to work out a way so that you can get cubes for cheap, sell them, > and make some money to go to Vegas. > > Or do what Frank Morris does and get a company to sponsor you. > > Please come! > > Note — Vegas is not finalized yet, but it's getting really close, and > I'm going to be very nervous if it does get finalized... because I'm > basically promising them 100 competitors. We had 56 in San > Francisco... we should be able to do 100 for a national competition. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3024. Re: [Speed cubing group] some of you owe me
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:26:16 +0100

Sorry, I just read the other post. 2006/3/23, Gilles van den Peereboom <gillesvdp@...>: > Is it going to be an open or a closed competition ? > I don't promise at all that I'll come, but I guess that you might have > some canadian guys who would be interested in that championship. > > Just a thought. > > Just a small note : hotels in Las Vegas are quite cheap, what's > expensive is the casino :D > Congratulations Tyson for this organisation that looks like a quite big event. > > Have fun ! > Gilles > > 2006/3/23, Tyson Mao <tmao@...>: > > Okay, so this is what happened. Originally, I was going to do US > > Nationals at Caltech, and everything was going to be very quick and > > easy, but then someone, and I think his name begins with a "Mike," > > spoke up and said that something like Vegas would be really fun. Then > > more of you guys, (rhymes with badam) chimed in and agreed that US > > Nationals 2006 in Vegas would be really fun. > > > > I'm really close to this. However, I need help from you guys. > > Basically, I'm going to look like a fool if we can't draw 100 > > competitors, so please help me out. The competition is scheduled for > > August 5 and 6. That's a weekend, Saturday to Sunday. > > > > We had 56 people for US Nationals. Everyone native to California is > > within driving distance of Vegas. That should be 100 people right > > there. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm putting a lot on the line here. If this > > thing flops, I look like a big fool, people get pissed at me, and all > > that other stuff, and it just sucks a lot for me. > > > > So yeah, tell your friends, get people addicted to cubing, get people > > to go to US Nationals. Look at your calendars, try to keep August 5 to > > 6 free, and yes... > > > > The goal... 100 competitors, or else Tyson sucks. I'll look really bad > > if 20 people show up to this thing. > > > > Is money your problem? I have ideas to help you raise money. If you > > can find a large group of people who want to learn how to cube, I'll > > try to work out a way so that you can get cubes for cheap, sell them, > > and make some money to go to Vegas. > > > > Or do what Frank Morris does and get a company to sponsor you. > > > > Please come! > > > > Note — Vegas is not finalized yet, but it's getting really close, and > > I'm going to be very nervous if it does get finalized... because I'm > > basically promising them 100 competitors. We had 56 in San > > Francisco... we should be able to do 100 for a national competition. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3025. RE: [Speed cubing group] some of you owe me
From: "Mark Spangler" <markspangler@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:53:00 -0700

Is there info on a web page - or can you send direct for us newbees..... -----Original Message----- From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Mao Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:11 AM To: caltechrubiks@yahoogroups.com Cc: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Speed cubing group] some of you owe me Okay, so this is what happened. Originally, I was going to do US Nationals at Caltech, and everything was going to be very quick and easy, but then someone, and I think his name begins with a "Mike," spoke up and said that something like Vegas would be really fun. Then more of you guys, (rhymes with badam) chimed in and agreed that US Nationals 2006 in Vegas would be really fun. I'm really close to this. However, I need help from you guys. Basically, I'm going to look like a fool if we can't draw 100 competitors, so please help me out. The competition is scheduled for August 5 and 6. That's a weekend, Saturday to Sunday. We had 56 people for US Nationals. Everyone native to California is within driving distance of Vegas. That should be 100 people right there. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm putting a lot on the line here. If this thing flops, I look like a big fool, people get pissed at me, and all that other stuff, and it just sucks a lot for me. So yeah, tell your friends, get people addicted to cubing, get people to go to US Nationals. Look at your calendars, try to keep August 5 to 6 free, and yes... The goal... 100 competitors, or else Tyson sucks. I'll look really bad if 20 people show up to this thing. Is money your problem? I have ideas to help you raise money. If you can find a large group of people who want to learn how to cube, I'll try to work out a way so that you can get cubes for cheap, sell them, and make some money to go to Vegas. Or do what Frank Morris does and get a company to sponsor you. Please come! Note - Vegas is not finalized yet, but it's getting really close, and I'm going to be very nervous if it does get finalized... because I'm basically promising them 100 competitors. We had 56 in San Francisco... we should be able to do 100 for a national competition. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology Yahoo! Groups Links
3026. Re: finger frenzy game
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:05:27 -0000

Yeah...! I got sub3.. 2.7xx Only now I bought a new keyboard...: http://www.pixmania.be/be/nl/158021/art/microsoft/natural-ergonomic- keyboar.html Now I really have to get used to this... - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > I guess some of you will be really fast at this. My record upto now is > 3.9s > > http://www.offthewrist.com/frenzy/index.jsp > > Michiel >
3027. Re: [Speed cubing group] one handed solving speed...
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:22:31 -0000

Hi Eric I use the same method one handed as two but you prbably will want to optimise some algorithms as you get better. Chris Hardwick has a lot of tips on http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/3x3onehand.html Good luck Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "ericdstalter" <ericdstalter@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] one handed solving speed... >I just tried one handed for the first time and timed myself. Did 3 > solves, (2:23, 2:28, 2:19) (avr. w/2hands = 45s) > > I know that practice will bring my times down and when my solving > 2hand time comes down, but do most solvers use a different method? I > use Petrus. if people do use a different method, to make it easier to > do alg's, then where is that information on the web? > > Eric > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3028. Anssi's world record on video
From: "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:52:08 -0000

Cubers, Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 /Anders
3029. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:59:07 +0000 (GMT)

Oh, man...that's impressive! and he just walks away as if it was nothing special...haha Pedro Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@...> escreveu: Cubers, Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 /Anders --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3030. new 4x4x4 edges method
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:26:12 -0000

Hey everyone, I've been working a lot on my 4x4x4 edges method and I have found a new approach that I really like a lot and have switched to. I used to use only RDdL turns to pair up my edges, and occasionaly I would change my storage and pairing layers if I saw something better to pair. Then I saw that Yuki (from what I have seen on his videos, and again I could be wrong) seems to use RuUL turns to do most of his pairing. I tried doing this and often got fast times, but sometimes I would still have slow edges because of not being able to find a piece I needed. Then I tried mixing the best parts of both and I have to say I like this better. I now view the edges in a way of just trying to pair two edges up. I do this however is convenient based on how I am holding the cube. So I mostly use rUudDL moves to do my pairing. I also move around the cube a lot and don't stick to just the d and u layers to pair. If I see other pieces I like somewhere else I switch to them instead of sticking with my 2 pair chain like on my 4x4x4 speed solve solution page. My philosopy used to be to be a little less efficient but to have a mindless process that I can do without having to think. Now I like to make it a little more efficient, and add a little more thought into it, but it seems to be working so far. I don't know what my times will be doing it this way, but I can only hope it will be faster. I feel like getting a sub-60 solve this way is much easier than with my old method, and I've even gotten a sub- 60 double parity solve using this new approach, so I want to work on it. I don't know if others use this idea, but my philosophy has changed for 4x4 edges. I now just pair up whatever I see, instead of following a rigid chain like I used to. Not sure if anyone already does this, but I feel like I can improve and move past the barrier I am at by trying this. Hope this helps for anyone interested in the 4x4x4. Chris P.S. Now if only I could stop being lazy and work on my centers, they're 2-3 seconds slower than most people I've talked to :-( Does anyone have a good centers approach? I feel like my edges must be fairly good to overcome my slower than average centers, anyone willing to trade centers tricks for some edges tricks?
3031. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:03:16 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > Cubers, > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > /Anders > Oh your god!!! After watching the video, I think I should stop speedcubing (but not cubing). I would feel like running behind Carl Lewis, or chasing a Testarossa with my Renault Mégane! (-> ridiculous) Gilles.
3032. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:46:34 +0000 (GMT)

Oh, I don't feel like that...I feel more motivated by knowing that is posible to be that fast. Well, maybe someday I'll get close to that...haha Pedro Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> escreveu: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > Cubers, > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > /Anders > Oh your god!!! After watching the video, I think I should stop speedcubing (but not cubing). I would feel like running behind Carl Lewis, or chasing a Testarossa with my Renault Mégane! (-> ridiculous) Gilles. --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3033. Re: [Speed cubing group] new 4x4x4 edges method
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:54:16 +0000 (GMT)

I think Stefan has a good approach to centers...it's on his site Pedro cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: P.S. Now if only I could stop being lazy and work on my centers, they're 2-3 seconds slower than most people I've talked to :-( Does anyone have a good centers approach? I feel like my edges must be fairly good to overcome my slower than average centers, anyone willing to trade centers tricks for some edges tricks? --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3034. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:01:05 -0800

Yeah, well, it all depends how much time you're willing to put into it right? Just be where you're supposed to be and you won't lose 50 dkp. That's a 50 dkp minus! Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Pedro wrote: > Oh, I don't feel like that...I feel more motivated by knowing that is > posible to be that fast. Well, maybe someday I'll get close to > that...haha > > Pedro > > Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> escreveu: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@...> wrote: >> >> Cubers, >> >> Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. >> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 >> >> >> /Anders >> > > > Oh your god!!! > > After watching the video, I think I should stop speedcubing (but not > cubing). I would feel like running behind Carl Lewis, or chasing a > Testarossa with my Renault Mégane! (-> ridiculous) > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3035. I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making the right choice?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:07:20 -0000

I see his method and his 13.88 average and it just amazes me. I think it's great that he was able to come up with a new method that is (or seems to be) as fast as Fridrich. I don't really want to learn Fridrich because there are so many people using it and I thought I would try something else. Also, someone has to test his method. I also thought about learning Petrus (and using the algorithms Josef Jelinek made) but it seems like it is slower. What kind of averages should I expect to get? I haven't seen anyone have an average close to Lars with his method so is the same thing going to happen with this and not many people are going to get sub 20? I've been working on it and I finally figured out how to use Gilles corners table (after asking him how). My fastest time with it so far is only 53 seconds. I am really slow in the beginning building the blocks but in the end I am really fast. I haven't learned all of the corners algorithms yet either. Hopefully I'll get more help here than I did on twistypuzzles.
3036. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:24:17 -0300 (ART)

Sorry by my ignorance, but what's "dkp"? Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@its.caltech.edu> escreveu: Yeah, well, it all depends how much time you're willing to put into it right? Just be where you're supposed to be and you won't lose 50 dkp. That's a 50 dkp minus! Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Pedro wrote: > Oh, I don't feel like that...I feel more motivated by knowing that is > posible to be that fast. Well, maybe someday I'll get close to > that...haha > > Pedro > > Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> escreveu: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > <anders.larsson@...> wrote: >> >> Cubers, >> >> Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. >> >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 >> >> >> /Anders >> > > > Oh your god!!! > > After watching the video, I think I should stop speedcubing (but not > cubing). I would feel like running behind Carl Lewis, or chasing a > Testarossa with my Renault Mégane! (-> ridiculous) > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Search Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3037. Puck Puzzles
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:29:14 -0000

a little off topic, but just curious whether anyone here has played around with puck puzzles and if so, what your opinions of them were. I'd never seen them until just the other day and don't really know anything about them. thanks --Kirk
3038. Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:58:42 -0000

Welcome, Aron I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that didn't help because there were just too many and I just got confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that case, just not an optimal alg]. Good luck! --Kirk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> wrote: > > Hello cubeheads! > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > method. > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast out > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to share > them with me. > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside me, > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm starting > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What was > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if I > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > into a bad habit. > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought of, > but can't remember at the moment. > > Best regards, > Aron Stansvik >
3039. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:50:39 -0800 (PST)

I'm not much better than you, but I think the following site helped me a lot: http://www.snkenjoi.com/wikicube/mediawiki-1.5.3/index.php?title=Intuitive_F2L I have been working on it for around a month now (or so?) and am really just now starting to understand how to do it well, and my times are finally decreasing a lot from where they were when I used layer-by-layer method. I also have a sheet with the 41 algs, and they help a LOT to show you how to do it efficiently. Once you get the basics down of intuitive F2L, start using the alg sheet and understanding how it works. David kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Welcome, Aron I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that didn't help because there were just too many and I just got confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that case, just not an optimal alg]. Good luck! --Kirk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> wrote: > > Hello cubeheads! > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > method. > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast out > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to share > them with me. > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside me, > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm starting > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What was > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if I > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > into a bad habit. > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought of, > but can't remember at the moment. > > Best regards, > Aron Stansvik > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3040. Re: new 4x4x4 edges method
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:52:41 -0000

Hi Chris, My average for the centers is around 15 seconds, so you may be faster than that, ubt I can tell you what my approach is. First I build the white and yellow centers on opposite sides, then I build whatever center that seems fast to build, having the yellow centers to the right. I have remembered the order that the colors are coming in if I rotate the cube along the x-axis, Green-Red-Blue-Purple (Meffert's color scheme), and I build them in that way. Piece of cake... :-D /Gunnar Krig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > I've been working a lot on my 4x4x4 edges method and I have found a > new approach that I really like a lot and have switched to. > > I used to use only RDdL turns to pair up my edges, and occasionaly I > would change my storage and pairing layers if I saw something better > to pair. > > Then I saw that Yuki (from what I have seen on his videos, and again > I could be wrong) seems to use RuUL turns to do most of his pairing. > > I tried doing this and often got fast times, but sometimes I would > still have slow edges because of not being able to find a piece I > needed. > > Then I tried mixing the best parts of both and I have to say I like > this better. I now view the edges in a way of just trying to pair > two edges up. I do this however is convenient based on how I am > holding the cube. So I mostly use rUudDL moves to do my pairing. I > also move around the cube a lot and don't stick to just the d and u > layers to pair. If I see other pieces I like somewhere else I > switch to them instead of sticking with my 2 pair chain like on my > 4x4x4 speed solve solution page. > > My philosopy used to be to be a little less efficient but to have a > mindless process that I can do without having to think. Now I like > to make it a little more efficient, and add a little more thought > into it, but it seems to be working so far. > > I don't know what my times will be doing it this way, but I can only > hope it will be faster. I feel like getting a sub-60 solve this way > is much easier than with my old method, and I've even gotten a sub- > 60 double parity solve using this new approach, so I want to work on > it. > > I don't know if others use this idea, but my philosophy has changed > for 4x4 edges. I now just pair up whatever I see, instead of > following a rigid chain like I used to. > > Not sure if anyone already does this, but I feel like I can improve > and move past the barrier I am at by trying this. > > Hope this helps for anyone interested in the 4x4x4. > > Chris > > P.S. Now if only I could stop being lazy and work on my centers, > they're 2-3 seconds slower than most people I've talked to :-( Does > anyone have a good centers approach? I feel like my edges must be > fairly good to overcome my slower than average centers, anyone > willing to trade centers tricks for some edges tricks? >
3041. Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making the right choice?
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:03:43 -0000

I think you have the mentality that I had "everyone is doing fridrich, I'll be the cool one who does something different". Which is fun, but less support is avaliable for roux. This is actually an advantage. You find out everything yourself and a lot of the time you invent looads of little tricks. basically you're gonna wanna go over his page time and time again and extract every single word you can from it, reading the archived versions of the page will help aswell. I've knocked off a second on average on the trip down here just by seeing a sentence on that page and having a different way of going about a step. Mike Bennetts page is fun, too. It's worth reading his algs. Fast times with this method are entirly possable, as i've acheived a sub-20 average with it in under a year of cubing. probibly from about 4 - 5 months of roux. Don't worry about being at a minate right now, I went up to about 1:20 from 30 seconds (when i used petrus), and i belive Gilles went from under 20 to about 1:30 or something. Low times are entirly possable with this method, and apparently possable for sub-20's with a two look corners. You should learn a lot of tricks and shortcuts, here are the ones I use; CMLL ELL Apply the concept of multislotting, not using anything solidly learnt opposite block building (being able to choose to start on a white or a yellow block) inverted block building (being able to build those two sets of blocks upside-down) non-matching blocks (being able to build different blocks form each other) NMCMLL (solve teh top corners in one look when non-matching blocks are applyed - the big table under CMLL - about 30% done) simultaneous block building (looking after a corner edge while you build the first block) AWOL centres in the LSE (rare) Placing UF + UB instead of UL and UR (rare) This along with hundereds of special configurations during the second block that you'll find out yourself gave me a sub-20 average, but I don't advise using pretty much any of it, you should keep it simple untli you get to about 18, as I'm trying to use all thses at teh same time while working on my speed and it's given me slower overall progress. But, the final result will be muuch faster. That's all the juice I have for now :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > I see his method and his 13.88 average and it just amazes me. I think > it's great that he was able to come up with a new method that is (or > seems to be) as fast as Fridrich. I don't really want to learn > Fridrich because there are so many people using it and I thought I > would try something else. Also, someone has to test his method. > > I also thought about learning Petrus (and using the algorithms Josef > Jelinek made) but it seems like it is slower. > > What kind of averages should I expect to get? I haven't seen anyone > have an average close to Lars with his method so is the same thing > going to happen with this and not many people are going to get sub 20? > > I've been working on it and I finally figured out how to use Gilles > corners table (after asking him how). My fastest time with it so far > is only 53 seconds. I am really slow in the beginning building the > blocks but in the end I am really fast. I haven't learned all of the > corners algorithms yet either. > > Hopefully I'll get more help here than I did on twistypuzzles. >
3042. Re: [Speed cubing group] some of you owe me
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:39:15 -0000

Hi Everyone, To make a long story short... The place that I worked at for the past 10 years closed. Not only does this put me out of a job, but I also lost my sponsor. So I most likely will not be able to make it to Nationals. Jon http://www.nascarjon.us
3043. Re: US Nationals 2006
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:41:15 -0000

Tyson -- It sounds like you essentially want to have a separate "World" Division/Competition that runs in parallel with the US Championships. A question would be: do the top 24/16/8 overall competitors advance to the next round, or do the top 24/16/8 US competitors advance along with the top 24/16/8 "World" competitors? I think it's a nice model, that of having a World Division along with the US division ("this is a friendly sport, all nations are welcome in the world of competitive speedcubing"). I'd just suggest working out the details ahead of time and making them public, both to competitors and to the media. Awesome job, Tyson! Maybe you can make a career out of competitive speedcubing. Heck, Bob Fox makes a living from competitive cup stacking. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > Just so the non-United States people know about this, the US National > 2006 competition will be open to everyone. We're going to host > international competitors in a "separate" bracket so the press doesn't > get confused. Two years ago, we had some article about Chotaru > Makiyzumi being disqualified for being Japanese. > > So, international competitors will be in their own bracket, but we'll > compile the results so you can see where you would have stacked up. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3044. Re: [Speed cubing group] some of you owe me
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:43:04 -0600

:( hope it works out for the best. On 3/23/06, nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > To make a long story short... The place that I worked at for the > past 10 years closed. Not only does this put me out of a job, but I > also lost my sponsor. So I most likely will not be able to make it to > Nationals. > > Jon > http://www.nascarjon.us > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
3045. Re: some of you owe me
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:57:14 -0000

Tyson -- First of all: You Are Amazing! Pulling off a Nationals at the Palms in Vegas (along with all the tournaments you've helped organized before this) I think earns you some serious write-in votes for Most Influential Cuber. I know the tournaments are why I got back into cubing and have stayed involved. Second: I looked back through some competitions in the past. SF 2006 was the largest US competition (56 people in 3x), but at Worlds there were about 150 people in 3x, 100 of whom were listed as from the US. 100 at Vegas might be a stretch, but let's go for it! Third: Eating competitions and Worlds Strongest Person only have 8- 12 competitors, and they're popular. Fourth: Maybe it's time to try to get ESPN2 involved? Anyone have any contacts? (perhaps the folks who ran Worlds2005 could help, since it was at a Disney park and CapCities owns Disney and ESPN2). Great work, Tyson. If Palms happens, let's all try to make it a great competition. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Okay, so this is what happened. Originally, I was going to do US > Nationals at Caltech, and everything was going to be very quick and > easy, but then someone, and I think his name begins with a "Mike," > spoke up and said that something like Vegas would be really fun. Then > more of you guys, (rhymes with badam) chimed in and agreed that US > Nationals 2006 in Vegas would be really fun. > > I'm really close to this. However, I need help from you guys. > Basically, I'm going to look like a fool if we can't draw 100 > competitors, so please help me out. The competition is scheduled for > August 5 and 6. That's a weekend, Saturday to Sunday. > > We had 56 people for US Nationals. Everyone native to California is > within driving distance of Vegas. That should be 100 people right > there. PLEASE HELP ME! I'm putting a lot on the line here. If this > thing flops, I look like a big fool, people get pissed at me, and all > that other stuff, and it just sucks a lot for me. > > So yeah, tell your friends, get people addicted to cubing, get people > to go to US Nationals. Look at your calendars, try to keep August 5 to > 6 free, and yes... > > The goal... 100 competitors, or else Tyson sucks. I'll look really bad > if 20 people show up to this thing. > > Is money your problem? I have ideas to help you raise money. If you > can find a large group of people who want to learn how to cube, I'll > try to work out a way so that you can get cubes for cheap, sell them, > and make some money to go to Vegas. > > Or do what Frank Morris does and get a company to sponsor you. > > Please come! > > Note — Vegas is not finalized yet, but it's getting really close, and > I'm going to be very nervous if it does get finalized... because I'm > basically promising them 100 competitors. We had 56 in San > Francisco... we should be able to do 100 for a national competition. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3046. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: finger frenzy game
From: matteo miller-nicolato <maltmn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:13:47 -0800 (PST)

NOOO just when i got to 2.25 seconds too ='( --- megafrikkie <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > I improved my record, it's now 1.828 sec. I think I > can't go any > faster... > Erik > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "megafrikkie" > <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > > > My computer at home is too slow, so when I'm done > it goes on till > all > > letters have passed, the times there are like 10 > sec... Now I am in > > computer science class (with faster computers), my > best time is > 2.824. > > Nice game, I did it a couple of months ago too. > Funny that it's now > > popular among speedcubers. > > > > Erik > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, my best time is 2.61, and I've been > sub-2.7 10 times or > so. :- > > ) > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > matteo miller- > > nicolato > > > <maltmn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > 2.63 hah beat that > > > > > > > > --- Dan <dan_j_harris@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 2.719 - 1599th on the table thingy. I won't > try to > > > > > improve unless a > > > > > cuber beats it :) > > > > > > > > > > DanH :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... > > > > they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... > > > > sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... > > > > and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... > > > > my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one > day... > > > > just in the corner of my room, getting swept > by a broom... > > > > some people dont think this rhymes... its not > spossed to....... > > > > meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! > > > > you might question if im a guy at first > sight....mew! prrr... > > > > i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... > > > > and i solve it faster behind my back... > > > > who really cares? perhaps my cat... > > > > my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... > > > > ah well, thats life....dont read this, its > just my > signature..... > > > > speaking of signatures, i sign > backwards.....it says meow... > > > > yea, ok, so bye for now.......... > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > im "The Guy" - they call me kibbles... they call me maltmn, they call me Cat... sometimes i meow and sometimes i mew... and i cant play golf for the brim of my hat... my cat plays guitar by the way, i saw her one day... just in the corner of my room, getting swept by a broom... some people dont think this rhymes... its not spossed to....... meow...meow...prrr...meow....mee-yow! you might question if im a guy at first sight....mew! prrr... i solve Rubik's cube in 1 minute.... and i solve it faster behind my back... who really cares? perhaps my cat... my mom thinks im a lowbro retard...... ah well, thats life....dont read this, its just my signature..... speaking of signatures, i sign backwards.....it says meow... yea, ok, so bye for now.......... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3047. Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making the right choice?
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:15:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > I see his method and his 13.88 average and it just amazes me. I think I never completely trust unofficial averages. Competition results are the only ones that should matter now. > it's great that... Gilles.
3048. [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:55:36 -0000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DKP_(Point_System) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Sorry by my ignorance, but what's "dkp"? > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > Yeah, well, it all depends how much time you're willing to put into it > right? Just be where you're supposed to be and you won't lose 50 dkp. > That's a 50 dkp minus! > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 23, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > Oh, I don't feel like that...I feel more motivated by knowing that is > > posible to be that fast. Well, maybe someday I'll get close to > > that...haha > > > > Pedro > > > > Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> escreveu: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Larsson" > > <anders.larsson@> wrote: > >> > >> Cubers, > >> > >> Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > >> > >> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > >> > >> > >> /Anders > >> > > > > > > Oh your god!!! > > > > After watching the video, I think I should stop speedcubing (but not > > cubing). I would feel like running behind Carl Lewis, or chasing a > > Testarossa with my Renault Mégane! (-> ridiculous) > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Search > Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3049. Minus 50 DKP
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:31:52 -0000

http://onyserious.ytmnsfw.com/ rofl
3050. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making the right choice?
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:06:32 -0600

The method is fantastic. It's nice that it averages fewer moves, and for someone who enjoys slice moves, it can't be beat. If you don't like them now, try Roux for a month. You'll be hooked. M'U is so fast it's scary. There are lots of things you can do with this method to improve. His page and method are great, but the beginner/intermediate step 4 on the archived page will be easier to pick up. Using that, and CLL for corners, you can average sub 20. I made it down to 19 for a while, but I had some extra tricks thrown in. Your mileage may vary. The real secret is to practice. But if you find that you like the idea behind the method, or you're seeing good results, steady practice will multiply the good results many times over. So, go slow, and get the method down as good as you can. Don't worry about times. Eventually, with enough practice, the decisions (what take up the time) will become almost instant. The small decisions in this method are fantastic for that. So practice, and kick some butt. Good luck, and happy cubing. -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3051. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:22:33 +0100

On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Welcome, Aron > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. Okay. When learning just a few of the algorithms, do you train them "back and forth", i.e. doing them and then doing their reverse and so on? Or is that a bad way to practice? Should I just cube along and if one of the cases I'm training comes up, I'll do the algorithm, and if it's another case I'll solve it using my old layer-by-layer method? This is what I'm doing now. I'm in Sweden, and I had plans to go to the Swedish Championships last week, to meet some other cubers for the first time, but I'd forgot that I was booked up that weekend. I'll be going to Chalmers Open though, also here in Sweden. > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > case, just not an optimal alg]. Yea, pretty often I can do that, or I can resort to doing what I did using the layer-by-layer method, though that doesn't really count, as the side is not layed down simultaneously with the corner :) > Good luck! Thanks! Aron PS. Do people want to also be Cc:d messages to the list? Different lists have different rules. DS. > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > <elvstone@...> wrote: > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > method. > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > out > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > share > > them with me. > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > me, > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > starting > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > was > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > I > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > into a bad habit. > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > of, > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > Best regards, > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3052. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:28:32 +0100

On 3/23/06, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > I'm not much better than you, but I think the following site helped me a lot: > > http://www.snkenjoi.com/wikicube/mediawiki-1.5.3/index.php?title=Intuitive_F2L Thanks. Haven't seen that wiki before. I'll check it out. > I have been working on it for around a month now (or so?) and am really just now starting to understand how to do it well, and my times are finally decreasing a lot from where they were when I used layer-by-layer method. Okay. I think that I'm at a stage now where when I'm solving using the few F2L algos that I've got in my head, I'm about the same when it comes to speed as with the old LBL method. This is only due to some inspection overhead, which I'm hoping to get rid of real soon :) > I also have a sheet with the 41 algs, and they help a LOT to show you how to do it efficiently. Once you get the basics down of intuitive F2L, start using the alg sheet and understanding how it works. Yea. At first I had the sheet nearby, and successively corrected how I was doing things, but maybe it's better to let the intuitive F2L sink in a bit, then match it with the "optimal" F2L. Thanks a lot for your advice. Aron > kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Welcome, Aron > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > Good luck! > --Kirk > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > <elvstone@...> wrote: > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > method. > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > out > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > share > > them with me. > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > me, > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > starting > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > was > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > I > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > into a bad habit. > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > of, > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > Best regards, > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3053. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:37:56 +0100

Oh I forgot one question I meant to ask. When I'm inserting the F2L pair, I seem to do it not like what is normally described. For instance: U R U' R' .. when I do: R' F R F'.. Is there something inherently better with the first approach? Maybe I'm holding the cube a bit differently.. Aron On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Welcome, Aron > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > Good luck! > --Kirk > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > <elvstone@...> wrote: > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > method. > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > out > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > share > > them with me. > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > me, > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > starting > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > was > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > I > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > into a bad habit. > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > of, > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > Best regards, > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3054. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:57:29 +0100

"We're sorry, but this video may not be available." :( Aron On 3/23/06, Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > Cubers, > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > /Anders > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3055. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:34:41 -0000

I got the same thing... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> wrote: > > "We're sorry, but this video may not be available." > > :( > > Aron > > On 3/23/06, Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@...> wrote: > > Cubers, > > > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > > > > /Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3056. Re: new 4x4x4 edges method
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:40:14 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > So I mostly use rUudDL moves to do my pairing. I don't really get it, particularly I wonder why use r instead of Rr. Can you give a concrete example algorithm? > P.S. Now if only I could stop being lazy and work on my centers, > they're 2-3 seconds slower than most people I've talked to :-( How fast are you? Cheers! Stefan
3057. [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:11:35 -0000

both get the job done, but have different effect on the OLL edges. I'm trying to pay attention to this as I insert the last F2L pair to anticipate (and manipulate) what kind of OLL I'll end up with, but that's about where I'm at as a cuber. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> wrote: > > Oh I forgot one question I meant to ask. When I'm inserting the F2L > pair, I seem to do it not like what is normally described. For > instance: U R U' R' .. when I do: R' F R F'.. Is there something > inherently better with the first approach? Maybe I'm holding the cube > a bit differently.. > > Aron > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Welcome, Aron > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > > > Good luck! > > --Kirk > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > > method. > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > > out > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > share > > > them with me. > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > > me, > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > starting > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > > was > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > > I > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > > of, > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3058. [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:25:55 -0000

definitely practice just the algs you're working on over and over, and their reverses (and the inverse and its reverse if applicable). often the reverse, or set up moves, is an alg you're going to want to know anyway, esp. in OLL and PLL, though sometimes they can differ from what you'll do with the other case. i.e., when I'm practicing some new OLL algs, start with solved cube, do an OLL alg you know and you're left with a different OLL case (call it the first OLL's pair). you can do those moves in reverse order to get back to solved and again to set up the OLL case you know, or if you know a different OLL alg for the pair, just do that alg 2x, then the first one's alg 2x and you can get some good practice on just those algs. also helpful for me was to not even look at the cube (hold it under your desk), and see how fast you can do the algs over and over again several times, then look at the cube at the end to make sure you did it right. I know I'm not alone in saying I find it helpful to sometimes just focus on F2L algs over and over again (and later OLL, PLL, etc.). and then put it all together for some solves. good luck --Kirk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> wrote: > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Welcome, Aron > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me that > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time and > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them directly-- > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > Okay. When learning just a few of the algorithms, do you train them > "back and forth", i.e. doing them and then doing their reverse and so > on? Or is that a bad way to practice? Should I just cube along and if > one of the cases I'm training comes up, I'll do the algorithm, and if > it's another case I'll solve it using my old layer-by-layer method? > This is what I'm doing now. > > I'm in Sweden, and I had plans to go to the Swedish Championships last > week, to meet some other cubers for the first time, but I'd forgot > that I was booked up that weekend. I'll be going to Chalmers Open > though, also here in Sweden. > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at as > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case for > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can usually > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > Yea, pretty often I can do that, or I can resort to doing what I did > using the layer-by-layer method, though that doesn't really count, as > the side is not layed down simultaneously with the corner :) > > > Good luck! > > Thanks! > > Aron > > PS. Do people want to also be Cc:d messages to the list? Different > lists have different rules. DS. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. I'm 22 > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months ago, > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little here and > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the beginner > > > method. > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, solving the > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly fast > > out > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the F2L, > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > share > > > them with me. > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases beside > > me, > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > starting > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. What > > was > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels as if > > I > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but I'm > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast turn > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when I'm > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've thought > > of, > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3059. Re: new 4x4x4 edges method
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:45:48 -0000

Hi, I use the same method as Gunnar (except that I hold the white centers on the right face after building the white and yellow centers). If I am in shape I can do sub-14 avg for the centers. During the centers I also try to look ahead, so that I can make my next step so easy as possible. But my weak point is that I can't start with every color, I can only start with white or yellow. Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > My average for the centers is around 15 seconds, so you may be faster > than that, ubt I can tell you what my approach is. > > First I build the white and yellow centers on opposite sides, then I > build whatever center that seems fast to build, having the yellow > centers to the right. I have remembered the order that the colors are > coming in if I rotate the cube along the x-axis, Green-Red-Blue-Purple > (Meffert's color scheme), and I build them in that way. > > Piece of cake... :-D > > /Gunnar Krig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > Hey everyone, > > > > I've been working a lot on my 4x4x4 edges method and I have found a > > new approach that I really like a lot and have switched to. > > > > I used to use only RDdL turns to pair up my edges, and occasionaly I > > would change my storage and pairing layers if I saw something better > > to pair. > > > > Then I saw that Yuki (from what I have seen on his videos, and again > > I could be wrong) seems to use RuUL turns to do most of his pairing. > > > > I tried doing this and often got fast times, but sometimes I would > > still have slow edges because of not being able to find a piece I > > needed. > > > > Then I tried mixing the best parts of both and I have to say I like > > this better. I now view the edges in a way of just trying to pair > > two edges up. I do this however is convenient based on how I am > > holding the cube. So I mostly use rUudDL moves to do my pairing. I > > also move around the cube a lot and don't stick to just the d and u > > layers to pair. If I see other pieces I like somewhere else I > > switch to them instead of sticking with my 2 pair chain like on my > > 4x4x4 speed solve solution page. > > > > My philosopy used to be to be a little less efficient but to have a > > mindless process that I can do without having to think. Now I like > > to make it a little more efficient, and add a little more thought > > into it, but it seems to be working so far. > > > > I don't know what my times will be doing it this way, but I can only > > hope it will be faster. I feel like getting a sub-60 solve this way > > is much easier than with my old method, and I've even gotten a sub- > > 60 double parity solve using this new approach, so I want to work on > > it. > > > > I don't know if others use this idea, but my philosophy has changed > > for 4x4 edges. I now just pair up whatever I see, instead of > > following a rigid chain like I used to. > > > > Not sure if anyone already does this, but I feel like I can improve > > and move past the barrier I am at by trying this. > > > > Hope this helps for anyone interested in the 4x4x4. > > > > Chris > > > > P.S. Now if only I could stop being lazy and work on my centers, > > they're 2-3 seconds slower than most people I've talked to :-( Does > > anyone have a good centers approach? I feel like my edges must be > > fairly good to overcome my slower than average centers, anyone > > willing to trade centers tricks for some edges tricks? > > >
3060. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:55:00 +0100

On 3/24/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > both get the job done, but have different effect on the OLL edges. > I'm trying to pay attention to this as I insert the last F2L pair to > anticipate (and manipulate) what kind of OLL I'll end up with, but > that's about where I'm at as a cuber. I just realized that. Maybe I'll try to practice with both to keep me fast on either of them until the day when I start to worry about Fridrich OLL/PLL (just using a couple of simple algos at the moment). Aron > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > <elvstone@...> wrote: > > > > Oh I forgot one question I meant to ask. When I'm inserting the F2L > > pair, I seem to do it not like what is normally described. For > > instance: U R U' R' .. when I do: R' F R F'.. Is there something > > inherently better with the first approach? Maybe I'm holding the > cube > > a bit differently.. > > > > Aron > > > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Welcome, Aron > > > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me > that > > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time > and > > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them > directly-- > > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > > > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at > as > > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case > for > > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can > usually > > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > > > > > Good luck! > > > --Kirk > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. > I'm 22 > > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months > ago, > > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little > here and > > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the > beginner > > > > method. > > > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, > solving the > > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly > fast > > > out > > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the > F2L, > > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > > share > > > > them with me. > > > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases > beside > > > me, > > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > > starting > > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. > What > > > was > > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels > as if > > > I > > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but > I'm > > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast > turn > > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when > I'm > > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've > thought > > > of, > > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3061. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Newbie seeking tips on Fridrich F2L
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:01:37 +0100

On 3/24/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > definitely practice just the algs you're working on over and over, > and their reverses (and the inverse and its reverse if applicable). > often the reverse, or set up moves, is an alg you're going to want > to know anyway, esp. in OLL and PLL, though sometimes they can > differ from what you'll do with the other case. i.e., when I'm > practicing some new OLL algs, start with solved cube, do an OLL alg > you know and you're left with a different OLL case (call it the > first OLL's pair). you can do those moves in reverse order to get > back to solved and again to set up the OLL case you know, or if you > know a different OLL alg for the pair, just do that alg 2x, then the > first one's alg 2x and you can get some good practice on just those > algs. That's a great idea! Come to think of it, I think I sometimes trained OLL/PLL algos that I actually know that way, back when I first learned them. They're only a few so far though, trying to focus on F2L. > also helpful for me was to not even look at the cube (hold it under > your desk), and see how fast you can do the algs over and over again > several times, then look at the cube at the end to make sure you did > it right. I'll try it out. > I know I'm not alone in saying I find it helpful to sometimes just > focus on F2L algs over and over again (and later OLL, PLL, etc.). > and then put it all together for some solves. Yes, I'm not doing any LL at the moment, just a few solves here and there for good spirit :) > good luck Is it really luck? hehe :) Aron > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > <elvstone@...> wrote: > > > > On 3/23/06, kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Welcome, Aron > > > > > > I tried that method (printing out the F2L algs and looking at the > > > sheet as I did them). everyone learns differently, but for me > that > > > didn't help because there were just too many and I just got > > > confused. better approach for me was to learn a few at a time > and > > > also explore intuitively so I understood what the alg does. Also > > > helpful is meeting up with other cubers to learn from them > directly-- > > > don't know where you are, but these days it seems odds are good > > > there's another cuber somewhere relatively close. > > > > Okay. When learning just a few of the algorithms, do you train them > > "back and forth", i.e. doing them and then doing their reverse and > so > > on? Or is that a bad way to practice? Should I just cube along and > if > > one of the cases I'm training comes up, I'll do the algorithm, and > if > > it's another case I'll solve it using my old layer-by-layer method? > > This is what I'm doing now. > > > > I'm in Sweden, and I had plans to go to the Swedish Championships > last > > week, to meet some other cubers for the first time, but I'd forgot > > that I was booked up that weekend. I'll be going to Chalmers Open > > though, also here in Sweden. > > > > > I don't know all of the algs, but I know enough for where I'm at > as > > > a cuber. If you learn a handful really well, and you get a case > for > > > an alg you don't know yet, with very little practice you can > usually > > > manipulate it rather easily into a case for which you do know the > > > alg. [I suppose that could be viewed as knowing an alg for that > > > case, just not an optimal alg]. > > > > Yea, pretty often I can do that, or I can resort to doing what I > did > > using the layer-by-layer method, though that doesn't really count, > as > > the side is not layed down simultaneously with the corner :) > > > > > Good luck! > > > > Thanks! > > > > Aron > > > > PS. Do people want to also be Cc:d messages to the list? Different > > lists have different rules. DS. > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello cubeheads! > > > > > > > > This is my first mail to the list, I just joined yesterday. > I'm 22 > > > > years old and solved the cube for the first time a few months > ago, > > > > using a beginner layer-by-layer method. I haven't started my > > > > speedcubing carrier very intensively, just cubing a little > here and > > > > there, so my average is around 60 seconds, still with the > beginner > > > > method. > > > > > > > > Recently I started looking at improving my cross speed, > solving the > > > > cross in D and the Fridrich F2L algos. If any of you wickedly > fast > > > out > > > > there can remember what it was like when you first learned the > F2L, > > > > and have any tips/suggestions et.c. you're more than welcome to > > > share > > > > them with me. > > > > > > > > At first I started with having the algos for the 41 cases > beside > > > me, > > > > printed on a piece of paper.. But the last couple of days I'm > > > starting > > > > to think that it's better to work out them out intuitively. > What > > > was > > > > your approach? Trying to figure them out by myself, it feels > as if > > > I > > > > learn them better, as if they "stick" better in my head, but > I'm > > > > worried that often I make unneccessary moves, that could fast > turn > > > > into a bad habit. > > > > > > > > Anyway, glad I found this fine sport. It kills off time when > I'm > > > > sitting in my bookshop with no customers ;) > > > > > > > > I'm sure there are more questions for this list that I've > thought > > > of, > > > > but can't remember at the moment. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Aron Stansvik > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3062. [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making the right choice?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:09:11 -0000

Thanks Mike and Thom. What are the archived pages both of you talked about? Gilles, are you saying your average isn't 13.88?
3063. Most Influential Cuber (Update)
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:14:33 -0000

Hi all, The poll has been closed and the results final. Ron van Bruchem has been voted the most influential cuber. In retrospect, I feel I should not have ran this poll. It demeans the ideal that I emphasized the most; All cubers who have influenced one other, or influenced many, have achieved a great thing. The original intent of this effort will still be maintained and I will give another update in the next few days. On a side note, I've started another poll, and I would appreciate everyones vote: www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/poll2 This will give me a better understanding of what the community wants :) Best Regards, -Richard
3064. move count on bigger cubes
From: "ericdstalter" <ericdstalter@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:51:11 -0000

What is an average move count on the 4x4x4 and 5x5x5? I have only done 5 solves on the 4x4x4 while counting and keeping track and so far am averaging about 150 moves. I have not had a chance to try the 5x5. I did this with my 3x3 and brought my average from 85 moves to 53 moves.(my times also dropped) Can't find move count information on the web. ERic
3065. Strange yahoo group copy
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:21:05 -0000

Anyone know what this is: http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.games.rubiks.speedsolving/last=/force_load=t I found it via a google search. It looks like a slightly outdated copy of this yahoo group. Anyone know anymore about it? Peter Greenwood
3066. YOUNGEST
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:44:40 +0000 (GMT)

Indeed, I am very happy that so many kids are lured to cubing. I was amazed today when I was browsing the youngest to solve 3*3*3 cube page in www.speedcubing.com. Thanks to some nice and wonderful cubers like Stefan, Ron, Chris Hradwick, Bob Burton, Dan Harris, Joel et al for influencing cubing among the kids. It is good for the cubing sport and also for its future. However, when I view it from other angle, as a teacher, parent and memory trainer, are the kids enjoying it ? are they taking it as fun ? or are they forced by their parents/teachers ? I think we have to wait and only time will answer this question. How many are going to sustain or stick ? As far as Bernett is concerned, he is enjoying it till this moment. It is fun for him. But, I have my own doubt how long he is going to sustain it ? I am doing my best to keep himmotivated. Thanks to Stefan Poachmann for guiding him in such a way since beginning. (Although, he was over ambitious last year for blindsolving, he realised his mistake and corrected it). After meeting Ron, his interest is multiplied. Let us hope, like Bernett every kid is enjoying cubing. I remember, someone from Japan pointed out to have a seperate cubing event for kids in RWC-2005 ? Chess have U-8, U-10, U-12, U-14, U-16, U-25 categories. Even memory sports have junior category. The number of memory athletes in this world are negligible when compared to number of cubers/cubists. I like to know how the other people in this group think about very young kids taking cubing as a hobby or sport. How is the world cube organisation going to keep them motivated ? We all know, priority changes for kids very often. Kudos to all young kids, their parents (and trainers if any). John Louis --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3067. Re: Strange yahoo group copy
From: "Andreas Renberg" <rubikssites@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:51:40 -0000

I think that that is a place where someone is either storing RSS feeds of all the messages to back them up, or it is a branch where yahoo groups stores its messages for mayn groups... Because, if you look at the post recently, all the newest posts in this group are all there... I wonder, Andreas --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Anyone know what this is: > http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.games.rubiks.speedsolving/last=/force_ load=t > I found it via a google search. It looks like a slightly outdated copy > of this yahoo group. Anyone know anymore about it? > > Peter Greenwood >
3068. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:41:49 -0000

Me, too. Can we get it from some other place? Btw, what does "MAY not be available" mean, don't they know what they have or what?!? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...> wrote: > > I got the same thing... > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > "We're sorry, but this video may not be available." > > > > :( > > > > Aron > > > > On 3/23/06, Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > Cubers, > > > > > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > > > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > > > > > > > /Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3069. Re: Strange yahoo group copy
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 00:06:48 -0000

I actually kind of like the format of that, easy to find replies to posts...hehehe Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Renberg" <rubikssites@...> wrote: > > I think that that is a place where someone is either storing RSS feeds > of all the messages to back them up, or it is a branch where yahoo > groups stores its messages for mayn groups... > > Because, if you look at the post recently, all the newest posts in this > group are all there... > > I wonder, > Andreas > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > Anyone know what this is: > > > http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.games.rubiks.speedsolving/last=/force_ > load=t > > I found it via a google search. It looks like a slightly outdated copy > > of this yahoo group. Anyone know anymore about it? > > > > Peter Greenwood > > >
3070. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "m.gson" <geezen88@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 00:45:40 -0000

I've got many videos från SveKub Annual Meeting competition 2006 including all of Anssi's 5 solves in his world record average. Unfourtanley i've got no good place too upload them. Only found rapidshare.de but it's not super. Anyway here's the fastest solve in his WR average: http://rapidshare.de/files/16347878/Anssi_12.47.wmv.html (press "free" and then wait 20 sec before you can download the file) /Marcus --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Me, too. Can we get it from some other place? Btw, what does "MAY not > be available" mean, don't they know what they have or what?!? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "megafrikkie" > <megafrikkie@> wrote: > > > > I got the same thing... > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > "We're sorry, but this video may not be available." > > > > > > :( > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > On 3/23/06, Anders Larsson <anders.larsson@> wrote: > > > > Cubers, > > > > > > > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > > > > > > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > > > > > > > > > > /Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3071. Re: [Speed cubing group] YOUNGEST
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:51:54 -0800

The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is that cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just kids... What's the point of having an U-18 category, when basically U-18 is where all the crazy people are? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:44 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > Indeed, I am very happy that so many kids are lured to cubing. I was > amazed today when I was browsing the youngest to solve 3*3*3 cube page > in www.speedcubing.com. Thanks to some nice and wonderful cubers like > Stefan, Ron, Chris Hradwick, Bob Burton, Dan Harris, Joel et al for > influencing cubing among the kids. It is good for the cubing sport and > also for its future. > However, when I view it from other angle, as a teacher, parent and > memory trainer, are the kids enjoying it ? are they taking it as fun ? > or are they forced by their parents/teachers ? I think we have to wait > and only time will answer this question. How many are going to sustain > or stick ? > As far as Bernett is concerned, he is enjoying it till this moment. > It is fun for him. But, I have my own doubt how long he is going to > sustain it ? I am doing my best to keep himmotivated. Thanks to Stefan > Poachmann for guiding him in such a way since beginning. (Although, he > was over ambitious last year for blindsolving, he realised his mistake > and corrected it). After meeting Ron, his interest is multiplied. Let > us hope, like Bernett every kid is enjoying cubing. > > I remember, someone from Japan pointed out to have a seperate cubing > event for kids in RWC-2005 ? Chess have U-8, U-10, U-12, U-14, U-16, > U-25 categories. Even memory sports have junior category. The number > of memory athletes in this world are negligible when compared to > number of cubers/cubists. > > I like to know how the other people in this group think about very > young kids taking cubing as a hobby or sport. How is the world cube > organisation going to keep them motivated ? We all know, priority > changes for kids very often. > Kudos to all young kids, their parents (and trainers if any). > > John Louis > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3072. Re: [Speed cubing group] YOUNGEST
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:16:50 -0000

To give the old farts a chance :p Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is that > cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other > words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's > played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just > kids... > > What's the point of having an U-18 category, when basically U-18 is > where all the crazy people are? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:44 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > > > Indeed, I am very happy that so many kids are lured to cubing. I was > > amazed today when I was browsing the youngest to solve 3*3*3 cube page > > in www.speedcubing.com. Thanks to some nice and wonderful cubers like > > Stefan, Ron, Chris Hradwick, Bob Burton, Dan Harris, Joel et al for > > influencing cubing among the kids. It is good for the cubing sport and > > also for its future. > > However, when I view it from other angle, as a teacher, parent and > > memory trainer, are the kids enjoying it ? are they taking it as fun ? > > or are they forced by their parents/teachers ? I think we have to wait > > and only time will answer this question. How many are going to sustain > > or stick ? > > As far as Bernett is concerned, he is enjoying it till this moment. > > It is fun for him. But, I have my own doubt how long he is going to > > sustain it ? I am doing my best to keep himmotivated. Thanks to Stefan > > Poachmann for guiding him in such a way since beginning. (Although, he > > was over ambitious last year for blindsolving, he realised his mistake > > and corrected it). After meeting Ron, his interest is multiplied. Let > > us hope, like Bernett every kid is enjoying cubing. > > > > I remember, someone from Japan pointed out to have a seperate cubing > > event for kids in RWC-2005 ? Chess have U-8, U-10, U-12, U-14, U-16, > > U-25 categories. Even memory sports have junior category. The number > > of memory athletes in this world are negligible when compared to > > number of cubers/cubists. > > > > I like to know how the other people in this group think about very > > young kids taking cubing as a hobby or sport. How is the world cube > > organisation going to keep them motivated ? We all know, priority > > changes for kids very often. > > Kudos to all young kids, their parents (and trainers if any). > > > > John Louis > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3073. Re: [Speed cubing group] YOUNGEST
From: "David Skolnik" <lockjaw17des@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:20:39 -0000

As a young cuber, I would like to give my two cents. Well, I'm 14 and I have been cubing for about 8-9 months, and although I'm no where near some of the other cubers in my age group I am still completely motivated in becoming better. I can also speak for a couple of my friends who are speedcubers. We all plan to cube for the rest of our lives. We were not taught by anyone, this is all self-motivated. In fact, my parents could not care less. I tried teaching my dad how to solve the magic and he had no patience for it. Anyways, on my and many other cuber's behaves I can say that this is something that is bound to stick with us. -David
3074. Re: [Speed cubing group] YOUNGEST
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:10:37 +0000 (GMT)

Once agin well done Anssi and Macky. Indeed, they are the biggest inspiration for many others. > cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. That is why, I feel you can lure more kids to this sport by having age wise category, like in chess. In future we can expect many more Anssis' and Mackys'. >the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's played the game for 20 years. A veteran need not be the best cuber in the world. A newbie need not be in the botom of the ranking list. It all depends on their commitment, practice and updating themselves with the latest techniques you veteran show them. Just my thoughts. John Louis Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is that cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just kids... What's the point of having an U-18 category, when basically U-18 is where all the crazy people are? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:44 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > Indeed, I am very happy that so many kids are lured to cubing. I was > amazed today when I was browsing the youngest to solve 3*3*3 cube page > in www.speedcubing.com. Thanks to some nice and wonderful cubers like > Stefan, Ron, Chris Hradwick, Bob Burton, Dan Harris, Joel et al for > influencing cubing among the kids. It is good for the cubing sport and > also for its future. > However, when I view it from other angle, as a teacher, parent and > memory trainer, are the kids enjoying it ? are they taking it as fun ? > or are they forced by their parents/teachers ? I think we have to wait > and only time will answer this question. How many are going to sustain > or stick ? > As far as Bernett is concerned, he is enjoying it till this moment. > It is fun for him. But, I have my own doubt how long he is going to > sustain it ? I am doing my best to keep himmotivated. Thanks to Stefan > Poachmann for guiding him in such a way since beginning. (Although, he > was over ambitious last year for blindsolving, he realised his mistake > and corrected it). After meeting Ron, his interest is multiplied. Let > us hope, like Bernett every kid is enjoying cubing. > > I remember, someone from Japan pointed out to have a seperate cubing > event for kids in RWC-2005 ? Chess have U-8, U-10, U-12, U-14, U-16, > U-25 categories. Even memory sports have junior category. The number > of memory athletes in this world are negligible when compared to > number of cubers/cubists. > > I like to know how the other people in this group think about very > young kids taking cubing as a hobby or sport. How is the world cube > organisation going to keep them motivated ? We all know, priority > changes for kids very often. > Kudos to all young kids, their parents (and trainers if any). > > John Louis > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3075. Re: [Speed cubing group] YOUNGEST
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 04:19:24 +0000 (GMT)

Once agin well done Anssi and Macky. Indeed, they are the biggest inspiration for many others. > cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. That is why, I feel more kids can be lured to this sport by having age wise category, like in chess. In future we can expect many more Anssis' and Mackys'. The championships are not only just finding the best and crowning him/her, but also should influence and motivate others. >the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's played the game for 20 years. A veteran need not be the best cuber in the world. A newbie need not be in the botom of the ranking list. It all depends on their commitment, practice and updating themselves with the latest techniques you veteran show them. Just my thoughts. John Louis Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is that cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just kids... What's the point of having an U-18 category, when basically U-18 is where all the crazy people are? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:44 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > Indeed, I am very happy that so many kids are lured to cubing. I was > amazed today when I was browsing the youngest to solve 3*3*3 cube page > in www.speedcubing.com. Thanks to some nice and wonderful cubers like > Stefan, Ron, Chris Hradwick, Bob Burton, Dan Harris, Joel et al for > influencing cubing among the kids. It is good for the cubing sport and > also for its future. > However, when I view it from other angle, as a teacher, parent and > memory trainer, are the kids enjoying it ? are they taking it as fun ? > or are they forced by their parents/teachers ? I think we have to wait > and only time will answer this question. How many are going to sustain > or stick ? > As far as Bernett is concerned, he is enjoying it till this moment. > It is fun for him. But, I have my own doubt how long he is going to > sustain it ? I am doing my best to keep himmotivated. Thanks to Stefan > Poachmann for guiding him in such a way since beginning. (Although, he > was over ambitious last year for blindsolving, he realised his mistake > and corrected it). After meeting Ron, his interest is multiplied. Let > us hope, like Bernett every kid is enjoying cubing. > > I remember, someone from Japan pointed out to have a seperate cubing > event for kids in RWC-2005 ? Chess have U-8, U-10, U-12, U-14, U-16, > U-25 categories. Even memory sports have junior category. The number > of memory athletes in this world are negligible when compared to > number of cubers/cubists. > > I like to know how the other people in this group think about very > young kids taking cubing as a hobby or sport. How is the world cube > organisation going to keep them motivated ? We all know, priority > changes for kids very often. > Kudos to all young kids, their parents (and trainers if any). > > John Louis > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3076. Re: YOUNGEST
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:14:09 -0000

I agree with John here. I still remember, a couple of years a 7 year old boy came to our chessclub, I was 13 then. I already played several years and was kind of one of the better players at my club. After 1 year the boy was almost as good as I was. He went to the Dutch Championships of his age, he finished 2nd (after 1 year playing chess!). Now, he doesn't play chess anymore because he doesn't like being pushed. I don't say that we should leave those talented young boys alone, carefull we don't push them, support is always a good thing. Age is irrelevant indeed in cubing, aswell as the time you've been cubing. (which is different in chess, because still it takes a supertalented boy a couple of years to get all knowledge). Youngsters are often even better than the veterans, in cubing it is the same I think. How older you get, the more stiff your fingers get (I think). Erik --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Once agin well done Anssi and Macky. Indeed, they are the biggest inspiration for many others. > > cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. > That is why, I feel more kids can be lured to this sport by having age wise category, like in chess. In future we can expect many more Anssis' and Mackys'. > The championships are not only just finding the best and crowning him/her, but also should influence and motivate others. > > >the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's played the game for 20 years. > A veteran need not be the best cuber in the world. A newbie need not be in the botom of the ranking list. It all depends on their commitment, practice and updating themselves with the latest techniques you veteran show them. > Just my thoughts. > > John Louis > > > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is that > cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other > words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's > played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just > kids... > > What's the point of having an U-18 category, when basically U-18 is > where all the crazy people are? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:44 PM, JohnLouis Louis wrote: > > > Indeed, I am very happy that so many kids are lured to cubing. I was > > amazed today when I was browsing the youngest to solve 3*3*3 cube page > > in www.speedcubing.com. Thanks to some nice and wonderful cubers like > > Stefan, Ron, Chris Hradwick, Bob Burton, Dan Harris, Joel et al for > > influencing cubing among the kids. It is good for the cubing sport and > > also for its future. > > However, when I view it from other angle, as a teacher, parent and > > memory trainer, are the kids enjoying it ? are they taking it as fun ? > > or are they forced by their parents/teachers ? I think we have to wait > > and only time will answer this question. How many are going to sustain > > or stick ? > > As far as Bernett is concerned, he is enjoying it till this moment. > > It is fun for him. But, I have my own doubt how long he is going to > > sustain it ? I am doing my best to keep himmotivated. Thanks to Stefan > > Poachmann for guiding him in such a way since beginning. (Although, he > > was over ambitious last year for blindsolving, he realised his mistake > > and corrected it). After meeting Ron, his interest is multiplied. Let > > us hope, like Bernett every kid is enjoying cubing. > > > > I remember, someone from Japan pointed out to have a seperate cubing > > event for kids in RWC-2005 ? Chess have U-8, U-10, U-12, U-14, U-16, > > U-25 categories. Even memory sports have junior category. The number > > of memory athletes in this world are negligible when compared to > > number of cubers/cubists. > > > > I like to know how the other people in this group think about very > > young kids taking cubing as a hobby or sport. How is the world cube > > organisation going to keep them motivated ? We all know, priority > > changes for kids very often. > > Kudos to all young kids, their parents (and trainers if any). > > > > John Louis > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3077. Re: Strange yahoo group copy
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0000

It's just a mailing list archive. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Anyone know what this is: > http://news.gmane.org/group/gmane.games.rubiks.speedsolving/last=/force_load=t > I found it via a google search. It looks like a slightly outdated copy > of this yahoo group. Anyone know anymore about it? > > Peter Greenwood >
3078. [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making th
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:44:10 -0000

Put in archive.org and enter gilles' page. As for the average, I trust Gilles and belive it's real, but as for others, he's saying you can't be too sure how accurate theyt are, and only the official ones give a complete idea of how good people are. I disagree, people can do worse in competitions ;) I belive the best method is video, but even that can't be trusted. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > Thanks Mike and Thom. What are the archived pages both of you talked > about? > > Gilles, are you saying your average isn't 13.88? >
3079. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "rubikorkow" <calcdude@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:04:55 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "m.gson" <geezen88@...> wrote: > > I've got many videos från SveKub Annual Meeting competition 2006 > including all of Anssi's 5 solves in his world record average. > Unfourtanley i've got no good place too upload them. Only found > rapidshare.de but it's not super. > > Anyway here's the fastest solve in his WR average: > http://rapidshare.de/files/16347878/Anssi_12.47.wmv.html > (press "free" and then wait 20 sec before you can download the file) > > /Marcus > You could make them into a torrent. Those don't require anymore than about a few kb's of uploading. If you want, I could do it for you if you sent me the files to korkow@...
3080. Re: YOUNGEST
From: makimoto2000us <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:43:53 -0000

Hi, I suggested age category a while ago and am exploring how should we set. >The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is that >cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other >words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran who's >played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just >kids... #1 Learing periods Tyson is partly right. For teenagers, it may be easy to achieve world class speed in short term. Yes, this is one of good things in cubing. But it isn't true for all the people. Anssi and Macky are great kids. However, even Macky took 4 years to achieve first sub20 average accoring to unofficial records. I think 4 year is not short for kids. Macky quickly stretched his records after he participated in wc2003. He must be motivated by participating in wc2003. #2 Cubing and Chess And I think cubing requires more physical ability than chess. That's why all the cubers at final of wc2005 was under30 except Jon. #3 Some rewards for kids It is great thing for kids to participate in the same competition with the world champion. But they should be more motivated for speed if he could be rewarded. #4 Future of cubing community And I am not sure how long I can contribute for cubing community. I don't know how long Ron, Tyson, and Gilles can do as same as for now. Someone may take over those role but we should set age categories, and lure more kids to cube and seed for future. #5 Difference in each country and area I don't understand why U-18 was raised for discussion. I feel the situation is different between California and the other region. Obviously, there is Caltech Cube Club and I believe there are many high school and university students in California. In case of Japan, there are not many student cubers, unfortunately, although we wished for someone to establish cube clubs in universities and high schools. Instead, many Japanese kids are started cubing and listed on unofficial youngest solvers. Those kids are encouraged to cube by seeing their name on unofficial list. Think that we started unofficial record lists, could not be satisfied with it, and finally established official lists. They should want to have that kinds. #6 My suggestion is following. ###1 12 and under 12 To my knowledge, those kids go to elementary school. A few kids may go to junior high. But the start of school year is different in each country, categorizing by age must be better. ###2 10 and under 10 To our experience, there are a few very fast (20-30 sec) kids at 12 year-old. Since most of those kids solve in 1-3 min, this may be good to to motivate relatively slow kids. Masayuki P.S. Please consider senior group there are several cubers more than 70- year-old in Japan. And I am 40 now.
3081. Re: YOUNGEST
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:12:53 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, makimoto2000us <no_reply@...> wrote: > > #2 Cubing and Chess > And I think cubing requires more physical ability than chess. > That's why all the cubers at final of wc2005 was under30 except Jon. Right, physical ability is the only thing that differs. It's not like youngsters have way more spare time to practice.
3082. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:15:52 +0100

There is also an economical factor. A six year old boy may get some dubiuos cube as an Xmas gift, but he is hardly in the position to run to some eBay auction for finding anything better. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, makimoto2000us > <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > #2 Cubing and Chess > > And I think cubing requires more physical ability than chess. > > That's why all the cubers at final of wc2005 was under30 except Jon. > > Right, physical ability is the only thing that differs. It's not like > youngsters have way more spare time to practice. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3083. Re: YOUNGEST
From: Gaétan Guimond <rubiks99ca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:40:50 -0000

The chess gamer look for the best move my explanation is easy and real no ? Only to realize that nobody controls it completely the fewest move on the smallest or 2x2x2, it's magic. My average of 3 consecutive game on swedish club on the web is 11,9,9. I presume for this club, the best cuber is the fastest physical ability, time reaction, memorisation, not for me. I pushed the limit of cartesian on tv show with my cube 3x3x3=27. open your spririt. My contribution is inspiration + frustration. I'm the first behind his back on tv or this web is not important I don't know anyway my game look super fast. I was not declared normal I was the first. I was a sun direct on dead zone time. My friend inventor 5x5x5 in 1981, patent, paper and machine is ++$10000. 100 % aluminium smooth and stable. On ne cherche pas des sponsors et personne nous a offert un billet d'avion. This communauty look for egotrip only sorry innocent maybe and I wish. "I studied variations of a 2x2x2 cube. I was immediately struck by the wealth that could be sensed only from this start " (Erno Rubik). M. Rubik had only an intuition that there must be a method. He started out by aligning the eight corner cubies correctly on the rubik's cube 3x3x3". My primate picture on Toronto on this web is a curious hazard only for you This world is English universal language or podium. I'm better now maybe:) Where is the cube 99 x 99 x 99 anyway the number of corner on this imaginary cube is 8 too. The news paper or the spectator is a neophyte he look the fast hand only. The 2x2x2 is not the puzzle for me because never cube exist without him. I like Sergio Leone use the serious and humor. This life is fragile and important. The 2x2x2 look easy too. Many webmaster or cuber is very poor with my link and my show is special.. I'm a cartesian of cube me too. Anyway who is the better u, me or him, is my perception and the 3x3x3 is only a cube for the beast on thescene but the 2x2x2 is the son of god, do you see god cube ? I like the stairway to heaven version of Frank Zappa song. GG PS: The 99 is not the fast on the ice but he is fast with the puck. My best visitor is the young Uwe Wong. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, makimoto2000us <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hi, > > I suggested age category a while ago and am exploring how should we > set. > > >The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is > that > >cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In other > >words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran > who's > >played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are just > >kids... > #1 Learing periods > Tyson is partly right. > For teenagers, it may be easy to achieve world class speed in short > term. > Yes, this is one of good things in cubing. > > But it isn't true for all the people. > Anssi and Macky are great kids. > However, even Macky took 4 years to achieve first sub20 average > accoring to unofficial records. > I think 4 year is not short for kids. > Macky quickly stretched his records after he participated in wc2003. > He must be motivated by participating in wc2003. > > #2 Cubing and Chess > And I think cubing requires more physical ability than chess. > That's why all the cubers at final of wc2005 was under30 except Jon. > > #3 Some rewards for kids > It is great thing for kids to participate in the same competition > with the world champion. > But they should be more motivated for speed if he could be rewarded. > > > #4 Future of cubing community > And I am not sure how long I can contribute for cubing community. > I don't know how long Ron, Tyson, and Gilles can do as same as for > now. > Someone may take over those role but we should set age categories, > and lure more kids to cube and seed for future. > > #5 Difference in each country and area > I don't understand why U-18 was raised for discussion. > I feel the situation is different between California and the other > region. > Obviously, there is Caltech Cube Club and I believe there are many > high school and university students in California. > In case of Japan, there are not many student cubers, unfortunately, > although we wished for someone to establish cube clubs in > universities and high schools. > Instead, many Japanese kids are started cubing and listed on > unofficial youngest solvers. > Those kids are encouraged to cube by seeing their name on unofficial > list. > > Think that we started unofficial record lists, could not be > satisfied with it, and finally established official lists. > They should want to have that kinds. > > > #6 My suggestion is following. > ###1 12 and under 12 > To my knowledge, those kids go to elementary school. A few kids may > go to junior high. > But the start of school year is different in each country, > categorizing by age must be better. > > ###2 10 and under 10 > To our experience, there are a few very fast (20-30 sec) kids at 12 > year-old. > Since most of those kids solve in 1-3 min, this may be good to to > motivate relatively slow kids. > > > Masayuki > > P.S. > Please consider senior group there are several cubers more than 70- > year-old in Japan. > And I am 40 now. >
3084. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:08:59 -0800

The fancifle 3x3x3 sticker is indeed a 3x3x3 = 27, but sometimes in my inspiration, I solve +1 to be dominant 28 denomination. The spirit transcends the PVC, and the class-1 Lever of the metatarsals used to manipulate said item becomes credit card plastic. Blindfold it is must, and D2 R2 is reverse of Starwars droid, so it must be magic. But then we consider, with intrepid imagination, the journey to the dead zone called sun, where SPF protection orders of magnitude greater than 3x3x3 is not 27, but is far higher, so we look at 5x5x5, the inventor who died trying to +1 to 126. Sun is main sequence dwarf, and 8 corners Mr. Rubik aligned, and realized Yoda grammar is not funny, but the cube he solved. Though our webskills decline, not everyone has privilege of cartesian design. My website is in cylindrical, and my friends use polar. Convert formats and coordinates by paying Russian college math students we must, but even so, the best average for the Moldovan club still exceeds 8 seconds, and 8 is 2x2x2. Magic? No? Yes... maybe. Probably, maybe, will you go to prom with me? If 2x2x2 is the son of god, then 3x3x3 is the incarnation of god, and humans transcend the ultimate deity in our sport by aligning the pretty colors, which look so pretty, how ever pretty, when one takes acid. But solve cube alfresco with redivivus chagrin and sometimes gaucherie panache. I sit on toilet and have lots of logorrhea, sometimes smells very assiduous, but brown sylvan eats my magic, and food voluptuary tickles inure organ. I have fun! Because sometimes, control is auspicious, and if English is the universal language, then tmesis is the solution, carapace can be used to protect us because Leroy Jenkins is paladin and hales and needs sacrosanct melange of sword to find vainglory. Stupid! Nonsense, and hogwash! But arctic tundra finds sub rosa digerati and confrere is NOT A NEOPHYTE becomes querulous and vociferous with cube, we find pot full of boiling water and cook our own brother, but find ourselves thrown into a firmament because The Bible was real, and flackja can jollification and find benefaction and good feelings, without orgasm, apposite from cynosure and quiddity, but the perquisite, is to eat Hogmanay. But the toilet also has room for http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2005/12/. All right, what's the point of all of this? The message is hardly intelligible, but if you're trying to prove something, that you're the fastest in the world, or that you're the father of blindfolding, or that you're the best blindfold cuber in the world, I welcome you to our competition, where I will eagerly await the challenge of setting a blindfold time less than half of yours. I solved one in 1:20 last night. Let's go. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 25, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Gaétan Guimond wrote: > The chess gamer look for the best move my explanation is easy and > real no ? Only to realize that nobody controls it completely the > fewest move on the smallest or 2x2x2, it's magic. > > My average of 3 consecutive game on swedish club on the web is > 11,9,9. > > I presume for this club, the best cuber is the fastest physical > ability, time reaction, memorisation, not for me. > I pushed the limit of cartesian on tv show with my cube 3x3x3=27. > open your spririt. My contribution is inspiration + frustration. I'm > the first behind his back on tv or this web is not important I don't > know anyway my game look super fast. I was not declared normal I was > the first. > I was a sun direct on dead zone time. > My friend inventor 5x5x5 in 1981, patent, paper and machine is > ++$10000. 100 % aluminium smooth and stable. > On ne cherche pas des sponsors et personne nous a offert un billet > d'avion. > This communauty look for egotrip only sorry innocent maybe and I > wish. > > "I studied variations of a 2x2x2 cube. I was immediately struck by > the wealth that could be sensed only from this start " (Erno Rubik). > > M. Rubik had only an intuition that there must be a method. He > started out by aligning the eight corner cubies correctly on the > rubik's cube 3x3x3". > > My primate picture on Toronto on this web is a curious hazard only > for you > > This world is English universal language or podium. I'm better now > maybe:) > > Where is the cube 99 x 99 x 99 anyway the number of corner on this > imaginary cube is 8 too. > > The news paper or the spectator is a neophyte he look the fast hand > only. The 2x2x2 is not the puzzle for me because never cube exist > without him. > > I like Sergio Leone use the serious and humor. This life is fragile > and important. The 2x2x2 look easy too. > > Many webmaster or cuber is very poor with my link and my show is > special.. I'm a cartesian of cube me too. Anyway who is the better > u, me or him, is my perception and the 3x3x3 is only a cube for the > beast on thescene but the 2x2x2 is the son of god, do you see god > cube ? I like the stairway to heaven version of Frank Zappa song. > > GG > > PS: The 99 is not the fast on the ice but he is fast with the puck. > My best visitor is the young Uwe Wong. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, makimoto2000us > <no_reply@...> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I suggested age category a while ago and am exploring how should > we >> set. >> >>> The problem I feel with having age divisions, like in chess, is >> that >>> cubing is not something that takes many years to mature. In > other >>> words, the best cuber in the world isn't an experienced veteran >> who's >>> played the game for 20 years. People like Anssi and Macky are > just >>> kids... >> #1 Learing periods >> Tyson is partly right. >> For teenagers, it may be easy to achieve world class speed in > short >> term. >> Yes, this is one of good things in cubing. >> >> But it isn't true for all the people. >> Anssi and Macky are great kids. >> However, even Macky took 4 years to achieve first sub20 average >> accoring to unofficial records. >> I think 4 year is not short for kids. >> Macky quickly stretched his records after he participated in > wc2003. >> He must be motivated by participating in wc2003. >> >> #2 Cubing and Chess >> And I think cubing requires more physical ability than chess. >> That's why all the cubers at final of wc2005 was under30 except > Jon. >> >> #3 Some rewards for kids >> It is great thing for kids to participate in the same competition >> with the world champion. >> But they should be more motivated for speed if he could be > rewarded. >> >> >> #4 Future of cubing community >> And I am not sure how long I can contribute for cubing community. >> I don't know how long Ron, Tyson, and Gilles can do as same as for >> now. >> Someone may take over those role but we should set age categories, >> and lure more kids to cube and seed for future. >> >> #5 Difference in each country and area >> I don't understand why U-18 was raised for discussion. >> I feel the situation is different between California and the other >> region. >> Obviously, there is Caltech Cube Club and I believe there are many >> high school and university students in California. >> In case of Japan, there are not many student cubers, > unfortunately, >> although we wished for someone to establish cube clubs in >> universities and high schools. >> Instead, many Japanese kids are started cubing and listed on >> unofficial youngest solvers. >> Those kids are encouraged to cube by seeing their name on > unofficial >> list. >> >> Think that we started unofficial record lists, could not be >> satisfied with it, and finally established official lists. >> They should want to have that kinds. >> >> >> #6 My suggestion is following. >> ###1 12 and under 12 >> To my knowledge, those kids go to elementary school. A few kids > may >> go to junior high. >> But the start of school year is different in each country, >> categorizing by age must be better. >> >> ###2 10 and under 10 >> To our experience, there are a few very fast (20-30 sec) kids at > 12 >> year-old. >> Since most of those kids solve in 1-3 min, this may be good to to >> motivate relatively slow kids. >> >> >> Masayuki >> >> P.S. >> Please consider senior group there are several cubers more than 70- >> year-old in Japan. >> And I am 40 now. >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3085. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:13:11 +1100

On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 03:43:53PM -0000, makimoto2000us wrote: > #6 My suggestion is following. > ###1 12 and under 12 I have also been thinking about divisions, but maybe they should be based on rankings rather than age. For example, one division for all the sub-20 cubists, and another for over 20. Ryan
3086. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:29:28 -0800

What do the divisions do though? Is it just a separate competition pool? Would people expect prizes for the lower division? If there were prizes involved, I see the problem of people "sandbagging." Is that the right use of the term? Someone who averages 19 would want to compete in the over 20 seconds category, because he would get killed by the 17 second cubers, but could take a top position in the lesser category. So... what's the point of all of this? Just to have a division for the sake of having a division, or do people actually want to accomplish something? One possibility is that we could change the format a little bit. Everyone competes, the "elite" group goes on into their own bracket which would then determine the winner of the competition. The other group would have a chance to compete against each other. The motivation for this is that the slowest people get more than one chance to record an average. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 25, 2006, at 3:13 PM, Ryan Heise wrote: > On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 03:43:53PM -0000, makimoto2000us wrote: >> #6 My suggestion is following. >> ###1 12 and under 12 > > I have also been thinking about divisions, but maybe they should be > based on rankings rather than age. For example, one division for all > the > sub-20 cubists, and another for over 20. > > Ryan > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3087. [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making th
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:44:15 -0000

Thanks. How do you use the NMCMLL table? I looked at it last night and I understand that it's showing you what the top and sides are going to look like for the corners but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with it. I hope you know what I'm trying to say because I don't completely know myself. Why would someone build non-matching blocks? Would you just do it at times where you find that there is a corner edge pair that isn't really what you are looking for? What about building the 2nd block on top, how would you move that to the side and how would you solve it from there?
3088. extended cross solutions
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:55:45 -0000

Greetings. I've been looking over Chris Hardwick's extended cross ideas and intrigued by the prospect of being able to save 4-5 moves by this method. Chris or others, have you been using this and had good success with it? It seems that your speed will to some degree be dictated in the end by the number of moves used in the solve, so if one uses maneuvers to decrease moves, speed will increase. Thanks. Roger Wood
3089. Re: extended cross solutions
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:59:32 -0000

Hey Roger, I solve with the extended cross very frequently actually, especially after picking up Richard Patter's dual solving idea, where I solve either white or yellow cross each time. I did a 100 average one time counting the number of moves for different steps of my solve and found that 28/100 or 28% of those solves were extended style cross solves. One of those solves was a double extended cross, or 1% of the total. I did all solves solving only with a white cross, so without dual solving. With dual solving ideally I should solve an extended cross 1-(1-0.28) ^2=48.16% of the time. Also with a 1% double extended corss percentage on one color I should ideally do a double extended cross 1-(1-0.01)^2=1.99% of the time. I would say that those numbers feel about right for me, I end up doing some sort of Xcross type solve roughly half the time now and I occasionaly get a double Xcross as well. I average about 9-10 seconds for the F2L, but the really good guys average 8 seconds. Without using Xcross and dual solving (always choosing the better setup color between white and yellow as my cross) there is no way I could average sub-10 seconds. Just solving the same color every time and not doing Xcross I consistently average 12-13 seconds for F2L. But again there are people who don't do Xcross often or use dual solving who average very fast, maybe even some of the 8 second people solve that way. So in short I don't know what to say other than to find a strategy that works best for you. There's no way I can average under even 11 seconds without using Xcross or dual solving (and I've tried for years!) but with both Xcross and dual solving I can often get to 9 seconds average for F2L. It's all about finding what works for you, if Xcross works for you stick with it, if it just slows you down then scrap it and try something else. Personally I swear by the combination of using Xcross and dual solving together, and I won't ever switch back to a more "regular" approach. Hope that helps, Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Greetings. > > I've been looking over Chris Hardwick's extended cross ideas and > intrigued by the prospect of being able to save 4-5 moves by this > method. > > Chris or others, have you been using this and had good success with it? > > It seems that your speed will to some degree be dictated in the end by > the number of moves used in the solve, so if one uses maneuvers to > decrease moves, speed will increase. > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood >
3090. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making th
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:48:58 -0600

I think he means more that competition results matter more, because anyone can be great at their desk. My best home average is over 4 seconds faster than my fastest competition solve. For his table, you use the side column to see which corners need to flip. Use the top row to determine which corners need to switch. If there is a certain orientation, you run across the row to see which corners need to switch, and use the alg there. Easy as pie. Also, Gilles himself doesn't even use non-matching blocks. He said it was too hard in a chat the other night. After my mammoth difficulties, I'm inclined to believe him. Besides, concentrating on regular block is plenty fast, and hard enough. -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3091. Re: extended cross solutions
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:34:39 -0000

Thanks for the reply, Chris. I'm nowhere near as fast in my F2L yet (average about 40 secs), but I guess I've been thinking about strategies to decrease moves so if I can pick up some "good" habits now, the strategies will pay off in decreased time in the end. It seems like most F2L algs involve 7-8 moves (except for the very few simple cases). With extended cross, one might be able to save 4- 5 moves on average. Have you done any averages using moves to extended cross vs. cross and optimal first pair? Later, Roger Wood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey Roger, > > I solve with the extended cross very frequently actually, especially > after picking up Richard Patter's dual solving idea, where I solve > either white or yellow cross each time. > > I did a 100 average one time counting the number of moves for > different steps of my solve and found that 28/100 or 28% of those > solves were extended style cross solves. One of those solves was a > double extended cross, or 1% of the total. I did all solves solving > only with a white cross, so without dual solving. > > With dual solving ideally I should solve an extended cross 1-(1- 0.28) > ^2=48.16% of the time. > > Also with a 1% double extended corss percentage on one color I > should ideally do a double extended cross 1-(1-0.01)^2=1.99% of the > time. > > I would say that those numbers feel about right for me, I end up > doing some sort of Xcross type solve roughly half the time now and I > occasionaly get a double Xcross as well. > > I average about 9-10 seconds for the F2L, but the really good guys > average 8 seconds. Without using Xcross and dual solving (always > choosing the better setup color between white and yellow as my > cross) there is no way I could average sub-10 seconds. Just solving > the same color every time and not doing Xcross I consistently > average 12-13 seconds for F2L. > > But again there are people who don't do Xcross often or use dual > solving who average very fast, maybe even some of the 8 second > people solve that way. > > So in short I don't know what to say other than to find a strategy > that works best for you. There's no way I can average under even 11 > seconds without using Xcross or dual solving (and I've tried for > years!) but with both Xcross and dual solving I can often get to 9 > seconds average for F2L. > > It's all about finding what works for you, if Xcross works for you > stick with it, if it just slows you down then scrap it and try > something else. > > Personally I swear by the combination of using Xcross and dual > solving together, and I won't ever switch back to a more "regular" > approach. > > Hope that helps, > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" > <pawsnwhiskers@> wrote: > > > > Greetings. > > > > I've been looking over Chris Hardwick's extended cross ideas and > > intrigued by the prospect of being able to save 4-5 moves by this > > method. > > > > Chris or others, have you been using this and had good success > with it? > > > > It seems that your speed will to some degree be dictated in the > end by > > the number of moves used in the solve, so if one uses maneuvers to > > decrease moves, speed will increase. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Roger Wood > > >
3092. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:20:00 -0000

He's talking about the NMCMLL table, not the CMLL one :) My method for the corners when using non-matching blocks has changed and is much better now. I can pretty much solve them in one move. Lets do a non-matching solve. Green on top, orange on front. F2 L' R2 U2 D R' F R' F2 R' L' U' F B' R U2 B D2 L2 R U2 R2 D U' F2 Now, on the left I see the block i normally would create and solve. But! on the right is pretty much all of another block. Problem is, it's the upside-down version of one of the regular blocks we use. (At this point, I'd like to mention that if you always start on one block, you're limiting your times a lot. You should definatly use an L and R block, and if you're brave, expand to the 4 that I use - L, R, Upside down L, upside down R. This is one of the big advantages to non-matching blocks - loads of cases to take advantages of. This is also a big help in the second block) this block will be built and we'll try to preserve the other blockso we can built that much quicker than normal aswell. F'M2FU'R'Uxy2 First block done, now we create the second one, but upside down. Another cool thing is that I imagine blue and green as the top and bottom colours, and because you see them as a group in step 4 anyway, it's easy to see them as one now. The four blocks all look teh same to me. Ur'U'RUMU'rU'R' And you have your two blocks! It's important to note at this stage that we orientated centres aswell, as they pretty much cost nothing to do. Lets look at the corners.... Ok, it's a sune case and one that I don't know the quick colour combinations of. I've been trying to learn all teh ways the patterns come up in different block combinations. This is one i don't know, if I did I'd be executing the alg :) so lets fall back into failsafe mode. You can see the two corners nearest to you need swapping, as the top two are in place. not a single rotation for this one :D It's C4 (we don't think this, we think "this alg" - BLD people know what I mean :) URU'L'UR'U'L' Corners done! :D One of my favourite algs. If this were practise we'd make a note of the colour configurations, the white and yellow and red and orange and green and blue. It's odd, because it's the same colour configuration as the normal CMLL case, I only found this out when i went to check over the solve - didn't catch it the first time. Then you continue as normal, after a while, the LSE is surprisingly normal.... MUMUM'UM' - Orient and pair U'M2UMU2LR - Insert, fix permutation, fix blocks My first and only attempt at solving it, not even optimised! 38 moves, yeah, this is kinda a lower bound for speed solving, but still :) (Using the metric where one turn = one turn ;) The NMCMLL table isn't too helpful. You can find it all out yourself. Thanks ~Thom
3093. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:24:29 -0000

Whoops corners alg is URU'L'UR'U'L - thanks tomasu. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > He's talking about the NMCMLL table, not the CMLL one :) > > My method for the corners when using non-matching blocks has changed > and is much better now. I can pretty much solve them in one move. > > Lets do a non-matching solve. > > Green on top, orange on front. > > F2 L' R2 U2 D R' F R' F2 R' L' U' F B' R U2 B D2 L2 R U2 R2 D U' F2 > > Now, on the left I see the block i normally would create and solve. > But! on the right is pretty much all of another block. Problem is, > it's the upside-down version of one of the regular blocks we use. (At > this point, I'd like to mention that if you always start on one block, > you're limiting your times a lot. You should definatly use an L and R > block, and if you're brave, expand to the 4 that I use - L, R, Upside > down L, upside down R. This is one of the big advantages to > non-matching blocks - loads of cases to take advantages of. This is > also a big help in the second block) this block will be built and > we'll try to preserve the other blockso we can built that much quicker > than normal aswell. > > F'M2FU'R'Uxy2 > > First block done, now we create the second one, but upside down. > Another cool thing is that I imagine blue and green as the top and > bottom colours, and because you see them as a group in step 4 anyway, > it's easy to see them as one now. The four blocks all look teh same to me. > > Ur'U'RUMU'rU'R' > > And you have your two blocks! > > It's important to note at this stage that we orientated centres > aswell, as they pretty much cost nothing to do. > > Lets look at the corners.... > > Ok, it's a sune case and one that I don't know the quick colour > combinations of. I've been trying to learn all teh ways the patterns > come up in different block combinations. This is one i don't know, if > I did I'd be executing the alg :) so lets fall back into failsafe mode. > > You can see the two corners nearest to you need swapping, as the top > two are in place. not a single rotation for this one :D > > It's C4 (we don't think this, we think "this alg" - BLD people know > what I mean :) > > URU'L'UR'U'L' > > Corners done! :D One of my favourite algs. If this were practise we'd > make a note of the colour configurations, the white and yellow and red > and orange and green and blue. It's odd, because it's the same colour > configuration as the normal CMLL case, I only found this out when i > went to check over the solve - didn't catch it the first time. > > Then you continue as normal, after a while, the LSE is surprisingly > normal.... > > MUMUM'UM' - Orient and pair > U'M2UMU2LR - Insert, fix permutation, fix blocks > > My first and only attempt at solving it, not even optimised! > > 38 moves, yeah, this is kinda a lower bound for speed solving, but > still :) > > (Using the metric where one turn = one turn ;) > > The NMCMLL table isn't too helpful. You can find it all out yourself. > > Thanks > > ~Thom >
3094. Re: new 4x4x4 edges method
From: Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:07:19 -0000

Hi Chris, I'm working a lot on my 4x4x4 edges method too. The idea was to find an alg for each lenght of cycle with the same start position. I set up the first pair, the second, the third ect... until the 10th always by the same way, but I use the appropriate alg if the cycle is shorter than 10. I try to calculate the parity during this step. In average, it leaves 3 or 4 pairs unsolved then I fix them and parity with the appropriate alg. Here's the website : frederickbadie.free.fr , I wrote it quickly. Any comments are welcome. Frederick. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > I've been working a lot on my 4x4x4 edges method and I have found a > new approach that I really like a lot and have switched to. > > I used to use only RDdL turns to pair up my edges, and occasionaly I > would change my storage and pairing layers if I saw something better > to pair. > > Then I saw that Yuki (from what I have seen on his videos, and again > I could be wrong) seems to use RuUL turns to do most of his pairing. > > I tried doing this and often got fast times, but sometimes I would > still have slow edges because of not being able to find a piece I > needed. > > Then I tried mixing the best parts of both and I have to say I like > this better. I now view the edges in a way of just trying to pair > two edges up. I do this however is convenient based on how I am > holding the cube. So I mostly use rUudDL moves to do my pairing. I > also move around the cube a lot and don't stick to just the d and u > layers to pair. If I see other pieces I like somewhere else I > switch to them instead of sticking with my 2 pair chain like on my > 4x4x4 speed solve solution page. > > My philosopy used to be to be a little less efficient but to have a > mindless process that I can do without having to think. Now I like > to make it a little more efficient, and add a little more thought > into it, but it seems to be working so far. > > I don't know what my times will be doing it this way, but I can only > hope it will be faster. I feel like getting a sub-60 solve this way > is much easier than with my old method, and I've even gotten a sub- > 60 double parity solve using this new approach, so I want to work on > it. > > I don't know if others use this idea, but my philosophy has changed > for 4x4 edges. I now just pair up whatever I see, instead of > following a rigid chain like I used to. > > Not sure if anyone already does this, but I feel like I can improve > and move past the barrier I am at by trying this. > > Hope this helps for anyone interested in the 4x4x4. > > Chris > > P.S. Now if only I could stop being lazy and work on my centers, > they're 2-3 seconds slower than most people I've talked to :-( Does > anyone have a good centers approach? I feel like my edges must be > fairly good to overcome my slower than average centers, anyone > willing to trade centers tricks for some edges tricks? >
3095. Sreadsheet?
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:01:13 -0000

Hey guys, I'm trying to find a spreadsheet I've seen. It starts as just a registration sheet. You enter the competitor's names and what events they are in. After that you press a button, and it makes a cheet for each of the events with all oc the correct names in them. Anyone seen this and know where I can get it? It would be a great help! Thanks in advance. Peter Greenwood
3096. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:38:06 -0000

Why would someone use non-matching blocks? Just when there happens to be a little bit of one already made for you when you complete the left block?
3097. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:58:48 +1100

On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 03:29:28PM -0800, Tyson Mao wrote: > What do the divisions do though? What I was thinking is similar to the B-grade competitions of many other sports. They allow you to compete with others of similar skill. > If there were prizes involved, I see the problem of people > "sandbagging." Is that the right use of the term? Someone who > averages 19 would want to compete in the over 20 seconds category, > because he would get killed by the 17 second cubers, but could take a > top position in the lesser category. Maybe we can have a look at how other sports sort people into divisions. I'm not really sure how it is done, but they seem to have a system that works. Ryan
3098. [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 04:28:56 -0000

I would prefer Tyson's idea of giving another round to those who don't advance to the second round rather than creating a separate division. Most people would try to qualify for the second round rather than win among those that didn't qualify. If we really want a separate division, it should be based on official records alone. Once WCA website can do things like calculate all-time competition average for each cuber, it'll be easy to create separate divisions by setting appropriate promotion/relegation stats. Of course, the problem then is how to deal with really fast cubers that compete for the first time. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 03:29:28PM -0800, Tyson Mao wrote: > > What do the divisions do though? > > What I was thinking is similar to the B-grade competitions of many other > sports. They allow you to compete with others of similar skill. > > > If there were prizes involved, I see the problem of people > > "sandbagging." Is that the right use of the term? Someone who > > averages 19 would want to compete in the over 20 seconds category, > > because he would get killed by the 17 second cubers, but could take a > > top position in the lesser category. > > Maybe we can have a look at how other sports sort people into divisions. > I'm not really sure how it is done, but they seem to have a system that > works. > > Ryan >
3099. [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making th
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:47:30 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > Thanks Mike and Thom. What are the archived pages both of you talked > about? > > Gilles, are you saying your average isn't 13.88? > I mean that if you're asking for a fast method, you want evidence of how fast it is, how consistent it can be, with solves timed officially, compared to cubes solved with other methods in the same conditions. But you're right, my best average isn't 13.88s. (*) Gilles. (*) It now is 13.44s :-)
3100. [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:39:19 -0000

Or cubers who were previously slow at competitions, but have improved a lot since their previous competition. I would hate to be stuck competing in the wrong division based only my previous "track record." There should definitely be a way for everyone to progress to the "real" final round if you are capable of it (regardless of track record). In practice, these type of mini-competitions between cubers of similar skill spring up informally at every competition I've attended. So why not just organize them, since that's what we obviously enjoy? Of course it might take more judges to make it actually happen. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > divisions by setting appropriate promotion/relegation stats. Of > course, the problem then is how to deal with really fast cubers that > compete for the first time. > > Macky
3101. [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:47:25 -0000

General question: The suggested purpose of age (or any other) divisions is to let you compare yourself to others with about the same speed, right? Can't you get that simply by looking around you in the overall ranklist?
3102. 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:29:25 -0000

Hey everybody, I have been practicing 4x4 a bit today.. And yesterday on a meeting with the Dutch guys, Ron showed me how he did the (orientation) parity fix. The way I do it is really awkward... Does anyone have an algorithm (or a version of the same algorithm I use) that is optimized for good fingertricks? - Joël.
3103. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:34:15 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey everybody, > > I have been practicing 4x4 a bit today.. And yesterday on a meeting > with the Dutch guys, Ron showed me how he did the (orientation) parity > fix. The way I do it is really awkward... Does anyone have an > algorithm (or a version of the same algorithm I use) that is optimized > for good fingertricks? > > - Joël. For a few minutes, I tried to read your mind to find out what alg you're using. I failed, I don't feel strong enough right now. This one was 4.27 seconds (not counting the start/end rotation): http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/4x4opf.wmv Cheers! Stefan
3104. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:17:45 -0800

If we had the resources, it would be amazing to have a website where you could sort the data. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:47 AM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > General question: The suggested purpose of age (or any other) > divisions is to let you compare yourself to others with about the same > speed, right? Can't you get that simply by looking around you in the > overall ranklist? > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3105. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:44:29 -0300 (ART)

LOL! Can you tell us what are you doing? It's so fast that I can't understand anything...well...just the x' (Uu)' R2' at the start...haha Pedro Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> escreveu: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey everybody, > > I have been practicing 4x4 a bit today.. And yesterday on a meeting > with the Dutch guys, Ron showed me how he did the (orientation) parity > fix. The way I do it is really awkward... Does anyone have an > algorithm (or a version of the same algorithm I use) that is optimized > for good fingertricks? > > - Joël. For a few minutes, I tried to read your mind to find out what alg you're using. I failed, I don't feel strong enough right now. This one was 4.27 seconds (not counting the start/end rotation): http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/4x4opf.wmv Cheers! Stefan SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Search Dê uma espiadinha e saiba tudo sobre o Big Brother Brasil. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3106. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:46:43 -0000

Hi :-) I believe Ron is doing a double fix for the orientation parity. This means his fix is actually fixing both tha orientation and permutation parities. This is what he has done in the past anyway. Since the chance of permutation parity is 50/50 this is still not bad. Especially if this double-fix is faster to perform than the sole orientation parity fix. And anyway, u can ask Ron which alg he was actually showing u. I assume that the permutation parity can be fixed in about 1.5 to 2.0 secs. It can be done either as : r2 U2 r2 (Uu)2 r2 u2 (Chris Hardwick) or (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) In any case it should be productive to recognize whether one/both or none of the parities occur ;-) If both do actually occur then do a double fix alg directly :D Being able to see this should be more productive than being able to eliminate the orientation parity when pairing up the edges :-) Have fun! -Per PS! For my cage method there is actually only 1 parity anyway. So what do i care? ;-) > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hey everybody, > > > > I have been practicing 4x4 a bit today.. And yesterday on a meeting > > with the Dutch guys, Ron showed me how he did the (orientation) > parity > > fix. The way I do it is really awkward... Does anyone have an > > algorithm (or a version of the same algorithm I use) that is > optimized > > for good fingertricks? > > > > - Joël. > > For a few minutes, I tried to read your mind to find out what alg > you're using. I failed, I don't feel strong enough right now. > > This one was 4.27 seconds (not counting the start/end rotation): > http://stefan-pochmann.de/foo/4x4opf.wmv > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3107. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:24:49 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) Geez, that's the (slow) 5x5 version of this 4x4 alg: (Uu)2 (Rr)2 U2 r2 U2 (Rr)2 (Uu)2 Don't make me look worse than I am...
3108. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:42:47 +0100 (BST)

It is not just comparision. The age wise division, irrespective of the level one has already achieved, will definetly lure more kids and youth into cubing sport. This is how chess flourished. John Louis Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: General question: The suggested purpose of age (or any other) divisions is to let you compare yourself to others with about the same speed, right? Can't you get that simply by looking around you in the overall ranklist? SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3109. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:19:14 -0000

Haha ... okay okay ... Yes as u can see i'm more focused on the 5x5x5 than the 4x4x4 ;-) I like the slow 5x5x5 version cause it's kinder to the centers. And it extends nicely to larger cubes as well :-) -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) > > Geez, that's the (slow) 5x5 version of this 4x4 alg: > (Uu)2 (Rr)2 U2 r2 U2 (Rr)2 (Uu)2 > Don't make me look worse than I am... >
3110. Wonderful Puzzler
From: "Evan" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:24:58 -0000

Does anyone know if the Wonderful Puzzler brand cubes are any good? Just curious, any feedback would be much appreciated. -Evan Until next time, Happy Cubing http://www.deepcube.net
3111. [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:36:55 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > It is not just comparision. The age wise division, irrespective > of the level one has already achieved, will definetly lure more > kids and youth into cubing sport. Why?
3112. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:46:59 -0000

http://www.snkenjoi.com/videos/Kirjava-NMBlocks.wmv Less moves, luckyer cases etc. Also, people don't have a clue what you're doing :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > Why would someone use non-matching blocks? Just when there happens to > be a little bit of one already made for you when you complete the left > block? >
3113. Re: Wonderful Puzzler
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:56:32 -0000

Most people would say no good. However they're not terrible. My first cube was a Wonderful Puzzler and it was plenty fast once I broke it in. The mechanism is the same as an Ideal cube but the plastic is different and the corners have no caps. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" <evan.gates@...> wrote: > > Does anyone know if the Wonderful Puzzler brand cubes are any good? > Just curious, any feedback would be much appreciated. > > -Evan > Until next time, Happy Cubing > http://www.deepcube.net >
3114. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:29:57 -0000

Ok.. I learned a new alg today: r2 B2 r' U2 r' U2 B2 r' B2 r B2 r' B2 r2 B2 Much better than what I used to do :D. - Joël --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Haha ... okay okay ... > > Yes as u can see i'm more focused on the 5x5x5 than the 4x4x4 ;-) I > like the slow 5x5x5 version cause it's kinder to the centers. And it > extends nicely to larger cubes as well :-) > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > Fredlund" > > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) > > > > Geez, that's the (slow) 5x5 version of this 4x4 alg: > > (Uu)2 (Rr)2 U2 r2 U2 (Rr)2 (Uu)2 > > Don't make me look worse than I am... > > >
3115. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:05:30 -0000

Hey Joel :-) That's a double parity fixer actually ;-) And besides, it works nicely on 5x5x5 too. I like it :D Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Ok.. I learned a new alg today: > > r2 B2 r' U2 r' U2 B2 r' B2 r B2 r' B2 r2 B2 > > Much better than what I used to do :D. > > - Joël > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > Haha ... okay okay ... > > > > Yes as u can see i'm more focused on the 5x5x5 than the 4x4x4 ;- ) > I > > like the slow 5x5x5 version cause it's kinder to the centers. And > it > > extends nicely to larger cubes as well :-) > > > > -Per > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > > Fredlund" > > > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) > > > > > > Geez, that's the (slow) 5x5 version of this 4x4 alg: > > > (Uu)2 (Rr)2 U2 r2 U2 (Rr)2 (Uu)2 > > > Don't make me look worse than I am... > > > > > >
3116. [Speed cubing group] Re: I have decided to learn the Roux method, am I making th
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:10:03 -0000

> I mean that if you're asking for a fast method, you want evidence of > how fast it is, how consistent it can be, with solves timed > officially, compared to cubes solved with other methods in the same > conditions. Thanks for clearing that up. > But you're right, my best average isn't 13.88s. (*) > > Gilles. > > (*) It now is 13.44s :-) > Haha. Man, you're great. So, you will be 4th in the unofficial records when you post it.
3117. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:20:05 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > http://www.snkenjoi.com/videos/Kirjava-NMBlocks.wmv > > Less moves, luckyer cases etc. > > Also, people don't have a clue what you're doing :) > > ~Thom Hmm, I'll work on that for a few days and see what I get out of it. What kind of non-matching blocks should I do? Do you (once you complete the left block) just all of a sudden think "I think I'll do one upside down this time" or "I'm going to do a sideways one"?
3118. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:42:48 -0000

Don't bother trying it just yet, you're gonna wanna do this when you get pretty advanced. You probibly shouldn't try it at all, Gilles doesn't. basically, after the first block I go into solving the normal next block. But if I see a pair of something else or an easyer NM block, and I'm feeling especially reckless, I'll do that. Oh, I only build upside-down blocks. Sideways is a little too 'out-there' for me. Maybe when I'm sub-15 :D ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > http://www.snkenjoi.com/videos/Kirjava-NMBlocks.wmv > > > > Less moves, luckyer cases etc. > > > > Also, people don't have a clue what you're doing :) > > > > ~Thom > > > > Hmm, I'll work on that for a few days and see what I get out of it. > What kind of non-matching blocks should I do? Do you (once you > complete the left block) just all of a sudden think "I think I'll do > one upside down this time" or "I'm going to do a sideways one"? >
3119. Non-matching blocks tutorial - Re: Roux method
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:19:18 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > Don't bother trying it just yet, you're gonna wanna do this when you > get pretty advanced. You probibly shouldn't try it at all, Gilles doesn't. I can't believe you said that, especially in your "Non-matching blocks tutorial ". [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3120. categorizing OLL?
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:43:24 -0500

I'm trying to finish learning OLL and would like to use some kind of categorization to divide and conquer the algorithms. Does anyone have a helpful way to keep all those algorithms straight while learning them? Now that I'm familiar with PLL, when I see a case I just know what to do, but while learning them, I relied heavily on the PLL names (H, Z, E, F, etc.) to associate an algorithm with each case. I've come up with similar names the OE cases (+, L, and -) and the OC cases (C, I, E, F, J, Y), and each OLL case can be reduced to a combination of an edge case and a corner case (for example, E- or CL), but this is not a perfect system because two cases can be different combinations of the same edge case and corner case, with the edges oriented differently in relation to the corners. I'm curious what has worked for others while learning OLL. Thanks, Matt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3121. Re: categorizing OLL?
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:23:58 -0000

Hey Matt, I categorised the OLL-algorithms according their algorithm - structure: http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php?location=tutorial4 I didn't really do this while I was learning it, but people that learn OLL from my page say it's useful. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > I'm trying to finish learning OLL and would like to use some kind of > categorization to divide and conquer the algorithms. Does anyone have a > helpful way to keep all those algorithms straight while learning them? Now > that I'm familiar with PLL, when I see a case I just know what to do, but > while learning them, I relied heavily on the PLL names (H, Z, E, F, etc.) to > associate an algorithm with each case. > > I've come up with similar names the OE cases (+, L, and -) and the OC cases > (C, I, E, F, J, Y), and each OLL case can be reduced to a combination of an > edge case and a corner case (for example, E- or CL), but this is not a > perfect system because two cases can be different combinations of the same > edge case and corner case, with the edges oriented differently in relation > to the corners. I'm curious what has worked for others while learning OLL. > > Thanks, > Matt > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3122. [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: makimoto2000us <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:30:08 -0000

According to the regulation, we can have only one event for each category. If we devide only one division may be official and the other unofficial. It is good for kids if we could have division. But it is also good to see 5 yr kid, 70 yr old man, and the champion competing together. Actually, we had two unofficial events for kids (U-12, U-15) in Osaka2006 while we scramle big cubes for the final. I would like to give kids a chance to set world official records and recognize by age group. For fastest, it should be easy. We only need the inforamtion of their age. For average, they may not qualifiy for semifinal and final. In case, we need to set another round for them based on their 1st round results. Shall we start official 3x3x3 fastest list for U12 in 2006? If we see a lot of kids cubers on the list, we may need to think something like another round in 2007. Masayuki P.S. I supposed U-12 include age of 12 and under 12. Am I correct?
3123. [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:47:25 -0000

Maybe separate results charts + prizes? So you solve your cubes like regular and then, during the awards ceremony, the top three or whatever are recognized + awarded like usual, then first (and, depending on size of competition, second)-placed U12 and U15 get recognized + awarded as well. Speedcubing.com could show these charts as well. Of course, things like this can be completely up to the organizer if no additional cubes are solved. You could also do things like "Best first-time competitor" and (this would work for contests that occur on a regular basis like Caltech or German Cube Day) "Most improved since last contest" Things like these make people who aren't the fastest overall but impressive in their own way get recognized. Tim
3124. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:51:57 -0800 (PST)

gah i'll just throw my cents in and say that adding categories based on age isn't a good idea. it doesn't accomplish anything except make things much more complicated than they need to be. i think keeping everyone on a level playing field is the way to go. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:47:25 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: YOUNGEST Maybe separate results charts + prizes? So you solve your cubes like regular and then, during the awards ceremony, the top three or whatever are recognized + awarded like usual, then first (and, depending on size of competition, second)-placed U12 and U15 get recognized + awarded as well. Speedcubing.com could show these charts as well. Of course, things like this can be completely up to the organizer if no additional cubes are solved. You could also do things like "Best first-time competitor" and (this would work for contests that occur on a regular basis like Caltech or German Cube Day) "Most improved since last contest" Things like these make people who aren't the fastest overall but impressive in their own way get recognized. Tim YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3125. # of moves
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:54:50 -0000

How can I get less moves on my solve other than doing the last layer in an alg or 2? Right now I'm at about 100 +,- 15 moves and I'm really slow (average of 1 min 15 sec). I solve the cube using a working corner and anywhere from 4-11 moves on the last corner.
3126. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:48:54 -0000

Greetings. Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is parity? Thanks. Roger Wood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hey Joel :-) > > That's a double parity fixer actually ;-) > > And besides, it works nicely on 5x5x5 too. I like it :D > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Ok.. I learned a new alg today: > > > > r2 B2 r' U2 r' U2 B2 r' B2 r B2 r' B2 r2 B2 > > > > Much better than what I used to do :D. > > > > - Joël > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > > Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > > > Haha ... okay okay ... > > > > > > Yes as u can see i'm more focused on the 5x5x5 than the 4x4x4 ;- > ) > > I > > > like the slow 5x5x5 version cause it's kinder to the centers. > And > > it > > > extends nicely to larger cubes as well :-) > > > > > > -Per > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan > Pochmann" > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > > > Fredlund" > > > > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) > > > > > > > > Geez, that's the (slow) 5x5 version of this 4x4 alg: > > > > (Uu)2 (Rr)2 U2 r2 U2 (Rr)2 (Uu)2 > > > > Don't make me look worse than I am... > > > > > > > > > >
3127. 5x5x5 News
From: "Frank" <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:48:24 -0000

Hi everyone, I don't normally post or brag or whatever about my achievements, but I did something really cool today. I was able to average 1:57.61 for an average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average, so it shows a lot of consistency. I am really happy with the result. The limit for the 5x5x5 is a long way away. Let's get some more interest in this puzzle! I am always willing to give advice or whatever anyone may need. Frank Morris
3128. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:16:56 -0000

I'd like to know your approach, lol. When I solve a 5x5x5 I solve the centers intuitively (and usually end up doing a lot of BS switching on the last two centers until it works), pair up wings and edges (although I do it in a long way) in an intuitive fashion, and solve as a big 3x3x3. But it takes me forever to solve this thing this way. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I don't normally post or brag or whatever about my achievements, but I > did something really cool today. I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average, so it > shows a lot of consistency. I am really happy with the result. > > The limit for the 5x5x5 is a long way away. Let's get some more > interest in this puzzle! I am always willing to give advice or > whatever anyone may need. > > Frank Morris >
3129. tiles
From: "Evan" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:13:30 -0000

So I just got my first set of cubesmith tiles and put them on a blank cube I had, and they are amazing. But at the same time, they are more just stiff stickers than actual tiles. I was wondering if there is anywhere to get tiles more like those on a deluxe cube. I use to have a bunch of cheep cubes with tiles, but the tiles broke easily and now I'm out. So if anyone knows anything, just let me know. Thank you, -Evan Until next time, Happy Cubing http://www.deepcube.net
3130. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Frank" <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:39:39 -0000

My approach is the same. Solve centers, then edges, and finish with the 3x3.. You can see some more detailed info at www.bigcubes.com.
3131. Re: # of moves
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:39:32 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > How can I get less moves on my solve other than doing the last layer > in an alg or 2? Right now I'm at about 100 +,- 15 moves and I'm > really slow (average of 1 min 15 sec). I solve the cube using a > working corner and anywhere from 4-11 moves on the last corner. Try to eliminate wasteful moves during F2L (including cross). [This currently takes me about 40 turns on average using WC, and less if I go slowly.] Practice very slowly indeed -- think of minimizing the moves as a puzzle in itself: makes it more interesting. Try to remember how you dealt with the "awkward" cases, especially when they are cases that come up frequently. When solving the F2L, keep an eye open for a likely next piece to solve. This is much easier for WC than with Fridrich, as you only have to find one candidate piece! For the last layer, investigate a 3-look method. These don't take too much learning and probably average under 30 turns for the LL. Mike
3132. Re: categorizing OLL?
From: "Paul Nixon" <yahoo@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:27:13 -0000

matt i agree with joel. i've recently learnt most (well, ok 45 or so) olls. thanks to joel's excellent resource i minted through them in about a month. the only problem i have is that i've learnt all of the 'easy ones', for example, the sune variants and am now struggling to find the motivation to learn the not so nice ones. dan harris also has a great oll resource (http://www.cubestation.co.uk/) and recommends a different order starting with horrible ones precisely, i suspect, for the reason i now don't know them all :-). however, for me, 57 algs looked like a bit of a learning burden so i wanted to get off to a flying start. i have 'summarised' and re-grouped joel's olls a bit into a spreadsheet. if you're interested i can email it. cheers and good luck paul --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey Matt, > > I categorised the OLL-algorithms according their algorithm - > structure: > > http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php?location=tutorial4 > > I didn't really do this while I was learning it, but people that > learn OLL from my page say it's useful. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > > > I'm trying to finish learning OLL and would like to use some kind > of > > categorization to divide and conquer the algorithms. Does anyone > have a > > helpful way to keep all those algorithms straight while learning > them? Now > > that I'm familiar with PLL, when I see a case I just know what to > do, but > > while learning them, I relied heavily on the PLL names (H, Z, E, > F, etc.) to > > associate an algorithm with each case. > > > > I've come up with similar names the OE cases (+, L, and -) and the > OC cases > > (C, I, E, F, J, Y), and each OLL case can be reduced to a > combination of an > > edge case and a corner case (for example, E- or CL), but this is > not a > > perfect system because two cases can be different combinations of > the same > > edge case and corner case, with the edges oriented differently in > relation > > to the corners. I'm curious what has worked for others while > learning OLL. > > > > Thanks, > > Matt > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3133. Re: categorizing OLL?
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:54:27 -0000

Joël's page is really good (I was able to learn all the OLL algs from his page in 3 weeks with 1 hour practice per day). Also, I recommend using another resource such as Dan Harris' website to repeat the algorithms and store them in your long term memory. Then a lot of practice is needed to put them in your "reflex zone". Good luck with that, Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Nixon" <yahoo@...> wrote: > > matt > > i agree with joel. i've recently learnt most (well, ok 45 or so) > olls. thanks to joel's excellent resource i minted through them in > about a month. > > the only problem i have is that i've learnt all of the 'easy ones', > for example, the sune variants and am now struggling to find the > motivation to learn the not so nice ones. > > dan harris also has a great oll resource > (http://www.cubestation.co.uk/) and recommends a different order > starting with horrible ones precisely, i suspect, for the reason i now > don't know them all :-). however, for me, 57 algs looked like a bit > of a learning burden so i wanted to get off to a flying start. > > i have 'summarised' and re-grouped joel's olls a bit into a > spreadsheet. if you're interested i can email it. > > cheers and good luck > > paul > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hey Matt, > > > > I categorised the OLL-algorithms according their algorithm - > > structure: > > > > http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php?location=tutorial4 > > > > I didn't really do this while I was learning it, but people that > > learn OLL from my page say it's useful. > > > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to finish learning OLL and would like to use some kind > > of > > > categorization to divide and conquer the algorithms. Does anyone > > have a > > > helpful way to keep all those algorithms straight while learning > > them? Now > > > that I'm familiar with PLL, when I see a case I just know what to > > do, but > > > while learning them, I relied heavily on the PLL names (H, Z, E, > > F, etc.) to > > > associate an algorithm with each case. > > > > > > I've come up with similar names the OE cases (+, L, and -) and the > > OC cases > > > (C, I, E, F, J, Y), and each OLL case can be reduced to a > > combination of an > > > edge case and a corner case (for example, E- or CL), but this is > > not a > > > perfect system because two cases can be different combinations of > > the same > > > edge case and corner case, with the edges oriented differently in > > relation > > > to the corners. I'm curious what has worked for others while > > learning OLL. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
3134. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:59:10 -0000

Hey Frank, Thats great to hear. Just admit it, it's cool to brag about your results... :D. You worked hard for it, so it's just cool if you share your good results. I've been working on the larger cubes myself lately... If I ever need help, I'll let you know. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I don't normally post or brag or whatever about my achievements, but I > did something really cool today. I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average, so it > shows a lot of consistency. I am really happy with the result. > > The limit for the 5x5x5 is a long way away. Let's get some more > interest in this puzzle! I am always willing to give advice or > whatever anyone may need. > > Frank Morris >
3135. Re: categorizing OLL?
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:02:05 -0000

Hey Paul, I am also interested in that, actually! If you think it need some adjustments, tell me. Could you mail that spreadsheet to jnoort [at] gmail [dot] com? Thanks! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Nixon" <yahoo@...> wrote: > > matt > > i agree with joel. i've recently learnt most (well, ok 45 or so) > olls. thanks to joel's excellent resource i minted through them in > about a month. > > the only problem i have is that i've learnt all of the 'easy ones', > for example, the sune variants and am now struggling to find the > motivation to learn the not so nice ones. > > dan harris also has a great oll resource > (http://www.cubestation.co.uk/) and recommends a different order > starting with horrible ones precisely, i suspect, for the reason i now > don't know them all :-). however, for me, 57 algs looked like a bit > of a learning burden so i wanted to get off to a flying start. > > i have 'summarised' and re-grouped joel's olls a bit into a > spreadsheet. if you're interested i can email it. > > cheers and good luck > > paul > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hey Matt, > > > > I categorised the OLL-algorithms according their algorithm - > > structure: > > > > http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php? location=tutorial4 > > > > I didn't really do this while I was learning it, but people that > > learn OLL from my page say it's useful. > > > > - Joël. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to finish learning OLL and would like to use some kind > > of > > > categorization to divide and conquer the algorithms. Does anyone > > have a > > > helpful way to keep all those algorithms straight while learning > > them? Now > > > that I'm familiar with PLL, when I see a case I just know what to > > do, but > > > while learning them, I relied heavily on the PLL names (H, Z, E, > > F, etc.) to > > > associate an algorithm with each case. > > > > > > I've come up with similar names the OE cases (+, L, and -) and the > > OC cases > > > (C, I, E, F, J, Y), and each OLL case can be reduced to a > > combination of an > > > edge case and a corner case (for example, E- or CL), but this is > > not a > > > perfect system because two cases can be different combinations of > > the same > > > edge case and corner case, with the edges oriented differently in > > relation > > > to the corners. I'm curious what has worked for others while > > learning OLL. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
3136. Re: 4x4 parity fix (does anyone have an optimized alg?)
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:23:56 +0200

It's a case that cannot happen on a 3x3 such as one edge flipped, or only 2 pieces swapped. Gilles. 2006/3/28, Stacie Wood <pawsnwhiskers@...>: > Greetings. > > Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is parity? > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Per Kristen > Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > > > Hey Joel :-) > > > > That's a double parity fixer actually ;-) > > > > And besides, it works nicely on 5x5x5 too. I like it :D > > > > Cheers! > > > > -Per > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > > > Ok.. I learned a new alg today: > > > > > > r2 B2 r' U2 r' U2 B2 r' B2 r B2 r' B2 r2 B2 > > > > > > Much better than what I used to do :D. > > > > > > - Joël > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > > > Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Haha ... okay okay ... > > > > > > > > Yes as u can see i'm more focused on the 5x5x5 than the > 4x4x4 ;- > > ) > > > I > > > > like the slow 5x5x5 version cause it's kinder to the centers. > > And > > > it > > > > extends nicely to larger cubes as well :-) > > > > > > > > -Per > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan > > Pochmann" > > > > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen > > > > Fredlund" > > > > > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > (Rr)2 (Ff)2 U2 r2 U2 (Ff)2 (Rr)2 (Stefan Pochmann) > > > > > > > > > > Geez, that's the (slow) 5x5 version of this 4x4 alg: > > > > > (Uu)2 (Rr)2 U2 r2 U2 (Rr)2 (Uu)2 > > > > > Don't make me look worse than I am... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3137. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:29:18 -0000

There is only one reason Frank is faster than us All... His Cube...IT IS AMAZING!!! He can do finger tricks like on a 3x3...its sick to watch... Hehehe...Just kidding Frank, you are amazing at solving it too :D But your 5x5s do rock... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey Frank, > > Thats great to hear. Just admit it, it's cool to brag about your > results... :D. You worked hard for it, so it's just cool if you > share your good results. > > I've been working on the larger cubes myself lately... If I ever > need help, I'll let you know. > > - Joël. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I don't normally post or brag or whatever about my achievements, > but I > > did something really cool today. I was able to average 1:57.61 > for an > > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the > best > > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average, so it > > shows a lot of consistency. I am really happy with the result. > > > > The limit for the 5x5x5 is a long way away. Let's get some more > > interest in this puzzle! I am always willing to give advice or > > whatever anyone may need. > > > > Frank Morris > > >
3138. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: categorizing OLL?
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:41:04 -0500

Thanks Joel... very nice page. Since I've already learned the corners-only and edges-only algorithms, learning the rest by their similarity to the ones I already know is probably a much better way than naming them. I picked up 5 or 6 more really quickly last night! On 3/28/06, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey Paul, > > I am also interested in that, actually! If you think it need some > adjustments, tell me. > > Could you mail that spreadsheet to jnoort [at] gmail [dot] com? > > Thanks! > > Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Nixon" > > <yahoo@...> wrote: > > > > matt > > > > i agree with joel. i've recently learnt most (well, ok 45 or so) > > olls. thanks to joel's excellent resource i minted through them in > > about a month. > > > > the only problem i have is that i've learnt all of the 'easy ones', > > for example, the sune variants and am now struggling to find the > > motivation to learn the not so nice ones. > > > > dan harris also has a great oll resource > > (http://www.cubestation.co.uk/) <http://www.cubestation.co.uk/%29> and > recommends a different order > > starting with horrible ones precisely, i suspect, for the reason i > now > > don't know them all :-). however, for me, 57 algs looked like a > bit > > of a learning burden so i wanted to get off to a flying start. > > > > i have 'summarised' and re-grouped joel's olls a bit into a > > spreadsheet. if you're interested i can email it. > > > > cheers and good luck > > > > paul > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Matt, > > > > > > I categorised the OLL-algorithms according their algorithm - > > > structure: > > > > > > http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php?<http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/%7Ejnoort/index.php?> > location=tutorial4 > > > > > > I didn't really do this while I was learning it, but people that > > > learn OLL from my page say it's useful. > > > > > > - Joël. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > > > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm trying to finish learning OLL and would like to use some > kind > > > of > > > > categorization to divide and conquer the algorithms. Does > anyone > > > have a > > > > helpful way to keep all those algorithms straight while > learning > > > them? Now > > > > that I'm familiar with PLL, when I see a case I just know what > to > > > do, but > > > > while learning them, I relied heavily on the PLL names (H, Z, > E, > > > F, etc.) to > > > > associate an algorithm with each case. > > > > > > > > I've come up with similar names the OE cases (+, L, and -) and > the > > > OC cases > > > > (C, I, E, F, J, Y), and each OLL case can be reduced to a > > > combination of an > > > > edge case and a corner case (for example, E- or CL), but this > is > > > not a > > > > perfect system because two cases can be different combinations > of > > > the same > > > > edge case and corner case, with the edges oriented differently > in > > > relation > > > > to the corners. 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3139. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:58:47 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> wrote: > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average?
3140. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:17:07 -0800 (PST)

It was better. Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> wrote: > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average? SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3141. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:43:09 +0200

Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? My feeling is that it's impossible. But how could we prove this mathematically ? Gilles. 2006/3/28, Frank Morris <ephem825@...>: > It was better. > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> > wrote: > > > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average > > Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average? > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3142. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:26:20 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > Gilles. 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1
3143. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:08:14 +0200

Show the same with two extreme values descarded! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den > Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > > > Gilles. > > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3144. Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:30:48 -0000

All -- I think the point would be to build interest in speedcubing by providing a couple more avenues for younger or older competitors (or for "newbies") to get some recognition when competing against the "professionals". Here's three models I can think of, leveraged from other competitions: - Age Grouping. This is often done in athletic competitions (swimming, running, etc). Everyone runs the same race and there is an overall winner, but also there is recognition for Under-12, Under-18, 18-25, 25-35, etc. For cubing, you have the one standard competition but at the end, recognize the top 12-and-under, the best 40-and-over, and any other age categories. So, a John Louis might be 22nd, but the top 12-and- under. And I can dream of one day beating Lars in the 40-and-over. - Competition Result Grouping. This is done in crossword competitions. You are a rookie until you're one of the top 4-8 rookies in a competition, then you move up to C division, then B division, etc (up to Open division). Everyone does the same competition, but recognition is done based on the divisions. You can also self-place in divisions, if you are new but good and want a shot at being in a higher division. But once you self-place, you're in that division for future competitions. This requires tracking past competition results, which we have on speedcubing.com, but also requires having large enough competitions so that you aren't in top 4-8 with a big time. Probably not as workable right now, except at the big competitions. - Self-Grouping. This is how some european football leagues run. When you sign up, you put yourself in a division. If you place high enough in that division, you move up. Similar to Competition Result Grouping, but with self-placing. Personally, I like the concept of adding a couple age divisions (Youth and Masters). But that could be because I'm now over 40! And if it makes the competitions more complicated, forget it - they're already complicated enough as it is. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > So... what's the point of all of this? Just to have a division for the > sake of having a division, or do people actually want to accomplish > something?
3145. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:46:11 -0800

The Rubik's Cube is VERY easy to master and age has nothing to do with a person's ability to master it. It is not a physical sport and young or old competitors do not have any disadvantage. I think having separate divisions is not necessary. Those who dedicate more effort towards mastering the cube will win, that's how it should be!! There is no reason to celebrate those who did not achieve top rankings because they have an equal opportunity to reach those positions, if they put in the effort. I remember when I first started cubing, I was waaaaaaaay slower than everyone else. I thought sub-20 was completely unattainable for me. Knowing that I had to get to that point to be competitive was a motivation and I got faster because of it. If we celebrate mediocrity, then people will have no reason to practice! The best cuber is the one who puts forth the more effort...and wins! That's how it should be. -Chris On 3/28/06, Jeff Soesbe <yeff@...> wrote: > All -- > > I think the point would be to build interest in speedcubing by > providing a couple more avenues for younger or older competitors (or > for "newbies") to get some recognition when competing against > the "professionals". > > Here's three models I can think of, leveraged from other competitions: > > - Age Grouping. This is often done in athletic competitions (swimming, > running, etc). Everyone runs the same race and there is an overall > winner, but also there is recognition for Under-12, Under-18, 18-25, > 25-35, etc. > > For cubing, you have the one standard competition but at the end, > recognize the top 12-and-under, the best 40-and-over, and any other > age categories. So, a John Louis might be 22nd, but the top 12-and- > under. And I can dream of one day beating Lars in the 40-and-over. > > > - Competition Result Grouping. This is done in crossword competitions. > You are a rookie until you're one of the top 4-8 rookies in a > competition, then you move up to C division, then B division, etc (up > to Open division). Everyone does the same competition, but recognition > is done based on the divisions. > > You can also self-place in divisions, if you are new but good and want > a shot at being in a higher division. But once you self-place, you're > in that division for future competitions. > > This requires tracking past competition results, which we have on > speedcubing.com, but also requires having large enough competitions so > that you aren't in top 4-8 with a big time. Probably not as workable > right now, except at the big competitions. > > > - Self-Grouping. This is how some european football leagues run. When > you sign up, you put yourself in a division. If you place high enough > in that division, you move up. Similar to Competition Result Grouping, > but with self-placing. > > > Personally, I like the concept of adding a couple age divisions (Youth > and Masters). But that could be because I'm now over 40! And if it > makes the competitions more complicated, forget it - they're already > complicated enough as it is. > > yeff > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: > > So... what's the point of all of this? Just to have a division for > the > > sake of having a division, or do people actually want to accomplish > > something? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3146. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "rubikorkow" <calcdude@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:52:52 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > There is only one reason Frank is faster than us All... > > His Cube...IT IS AMAZING!!! He can do finger tricks like on a > 3x3...its sick to watch... > > Hehehe...Just kidding Frank, you are amazing at solving it too :D But > your 5x5s do rock... > > Craig > Lol, the thing I regret the most for not doing when I when to the Caltech winter competition was not asking to feel/try out Frank's 5x5. Oh, how I loath not doing that. (FYI Frank, I was the 13 year old hanging out with Bob and Clancy most of the time.)
3147. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:58:22 -0800 (PST)

Heheh... I remember you. Crazy fast magic solver. You should have asked, I would have let you. :) rubikorkow <calcdude@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > There is only one reason Frank is faster than us All... > > His Cube...IT IS AMAZING!!! He can do finger tricks like on a > 3x3...its sick to watch... > > Hehehe...Just kidding Frank, you are amazing at solving it too :D But > your 5x5s do rock... > > Craig > Lol, the thing I regret the most for not doing when I when to the Caltech winter competition was not asking to feel/try out Frank's 5x5. Oh, how I loath not doing that. (FYI Frank, I was the 13 year old hanging out with Bob and Clancy most of the time.) --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3148. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:10:51 -0000

Hi Gilles, Yes, it is possible. It already happened to me almost two moths ago. These where the times: 2:17.80 (1:53.35) 2:10.04 2:10.49 (2:44.40) 2:15.10 2:17.15 2:20.49 2:07.47 2:08.84 2:12.41 2:00.79 The average of 10 is 2:12.06. Try to find out a better average of 5 (7 solves, discarding best and worst times) :). Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > Gilles. > > 2006/3/28, Frank Morris <ephem825@...>: > > It was better. > > > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > > > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > > > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average > > > > Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@...m > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3149. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:02:50 -0000

True, but you have to admit there is something special (if just for spectators) about an under-12 or "kids" division. And as long as everyone is still competing in the same event, anyone in the kids division can still place 1st in the whole thing if they're good enough. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > The Rubik's Cube is VERY easy to master and age has nothing to do with > a person's ability to master it. It is not a physical sport and young > or old competitors do not have any disadvantage.
3150. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:34:12 +0200

Hi guys, Lots of great ideas. But personally I do not understand which problem we are trying to solve. It is already a great joy to be among other cubers! Competitions are like reunions. For the bigger competitions we often have trophies for the youngest and oldest solver, or for the person travelling the longest distance to the competition. We also keep track of the youngest (and soon when I find the time, also the oldest) solver in a competition for the WCA world records. And we could also add a trophy for a special achievement, which could be for anything, including age, style, bad luck, being physically challenged or whatever. Noone should be ashamed of his times. If you solve you are already among the top 2% (rough estimate) of the population. In this case I prefer the Olympic slogan: participating is more important than winning. :-) Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: christopher_pelley To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) True, but you have to admit there is something special (if just for spectators) about an under-12 or "kids" division. And as long as everyone is still competing in the same event, anyone in the kids division can still place 1st in the whole thing if they're good enough. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > The Rubik's Cube is VERY easy to master and age has nothing to do with > a person's ability to master it. It is not a physical sport and young > or old competitors do not have any disadvantage. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3151. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:42:34 +0100

I don't think I'm really for this non-puzzle-related categorisation either. Obviously we need to categorise events based on different puzzles, and different types of solving (e.g. regular speedsolving, one-handed, BLD, etc.), but any categorisation other than this seems a bit random to me. If we were going to categorise on age, then why not gender? (No, I don't think we should, I'm just using the gender example to illustrate a point.) If it's about encouraging other demographics to get involved with cubing then I reckon there are far fewer females into cubing than there are young kids! Even though categorising based on gender would obviously work in my favour, I don't really think it's needed. I'm happy to compete directly against the guys (of any age!) Also, age categorisation sounds like it'd be even *more* work for the competition organisers who are just volunteers and have enough to do already! Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:46:11 -0800, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> said: > > The Rubik's Cube is VERY easy to master and age has nothing to do with > a person's ability to master it. It is not a physical sport and young > or old competitors do not have any disadvantage. I think having > separate divisions is not necessary. Those who dedicate more effort > towards mastering the cube will win, that's how it should be!! There > is no reason to celebrate those who did not achieve top rankings > because they have an equal opportunity to reach those positions, if > they put in the effort. > I remember when I first started cubing, I was waaaaaaaay slower than > everyone else. I thought sub-20 was completely unattainable for me. > Knowing that I had to get to that point to be competitive was a > motivation and I got faster because of it. If we celebrate mediocrity, > then people will have no reason to practice! > The best cuber is the one who puts forth the more effort...and wins! > That's how it should be. > -Chris > On 3/28/06, Jeff Soesbe <yeff@...> wrote: > > All -- > > > > I think the point would be to build interest in speedcubing by > > providing a couple more avenues for younger or older competitors (or > > for "newbies") to get some recognition when competing against > > the "professionals". > > > > Here's three models I can think of, leveraged from other competitions: > > > > - Age Grouping. This is often done in athletic competitions (swimming, > > running, etc). Everyone runs the same race and there is an overall > > winner, but also there is recognition for Under-12, Under-18, 18-25, > > 25-35, etc. > > > > For cubing, you have the one standard competition but at the end, > > recognize the top 12-and-under, the best 40-and-over, and any other > > age categories. So, a John Louis might be 22nd, but the top 12-and- > > under. And I can dream of one day beating Lars in the 40-and-over. > > > > > > - Competition Result Grouping. This is done in crossword competitions. > > You are a rookie until you're one of the top 4-8 rookies in a > > competition, then you move up to C division, then B division, etc (up > > to Open division). Everyone does the same competition, but recognition > > is done based on the divisions. > > > > You can also self-place in divisions, if you are new but good and want > > a shot at being in a higher division. But once you self-place, you're > > in that division for future competitions. > > > > This requires tracking past competition results, which we have on > > speedcubing.com, but also requires having large enough competitions so > > that you aren't in top 4-8 with a big time. Probably not as workable > > right now, except at the big competitions. > > > > > > - Self-Grouping. This is how some european football leagues run. When > > you sign up, you put yourself in a division. If you place high enough > > in that division, you move up. Similar to Competition Result Grouping, > > but with self-placing. > > > > > > Personally, I like the concept of adding a couple age divisions (Youth > > and Masters). But that could be because I'm now over 40! And if it > > makes the competitions more complicated, forget it - they're already > > complicated enough as it is. > > > > yeff > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > > wrote: > > > So... what's the point of all of this? Just to have a division for > > the > > > sake of having a division, or do people actually want to accomplish > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > [1]Jigsaw puzzle game [2]Free puzzle inlay games [3]Educational game and > puzzle > [4]Word puzzle game [5]Kid puzzle game [6]Puzzle games > ____________________________________________________________ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "[7]speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [8]speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [9]Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > ____________________________________________________________ > > References > > 1. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > 2. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw > 3. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ > 4. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg > 5. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ > 6. > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA > 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > 8. > mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe > 9. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service?
3152. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:45:52 -0000

Gilles! Ur question was not really what u wanted to ask i guess. U meant to ask if it's possible that the best 7/5 average out of 12 consecutive solves is worse than the full 12/10 avg. And nope, that is not possible. It's not too trivial to prove it rigorously but it's intuitive nevertheless ;-) One would have to use something like the pigeonhole principle :-) Or arrive at a contradiction somehow ... Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den > Peereboom" <gillesvdp@> wrote: > > > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > > > Gilles. > > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 >
3153. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:57:00 -0000

What about my counterexample below? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Gilles! > > Ur question was not really what u wanted to ask i guess. U meant to > ask if it's possible that the best 7/5 average out of 12 consecutive > solves is worse than the full 12/10 avg. And nope, that is not > possible. It's not too trivial to prove it rigorously but it's > intuitive nevertheless ;-) One would have to use something like the > pigeonhole principle :-) Or arrive at a contradiction somehow ... > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den > > Peereboom" <gillesvdp@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 > out > > > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > > > > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > > > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 > > >
3154. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:57:15 -0000

Hi Per, Your are not right. Stefan and I already give an counterexample. In Stefan's example: the 12/10 average is 1.95, while all the six 7/5 averages are 2. Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Gilles! > > Ur question was not really what u wanted to ask i guess. U meant to > ask if it's possible that the best 7/5 average out of 12 consecutive > solves is worse than the full 12/10 avg. And nope, that is not > possible. It's not too trivial to prove it rigorously but it's > intuitive nevertheless ;-) One would have to use something like the > pigeonhole principle :-) Or arrive at a contradiction somehow ... > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den > > Peereboom" <gillesvdp@> wrote: > > > > > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 > out > > > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > > > > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > > > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 > > >
3155. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:36:54 -0000

2:15.10 2:17.15 (2:20.49) 2:07.47 2:08.84 2:12.41 (2:00.79) That the best 5??? Hmmm...lemme calculate in my head...a minute later.........Yah, that would be about 2:12.3x or 2:12.4x...its not far off...but still... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > Hi Gilles, > Yes, it is possible. It already happened to me almost two moths ago. > These where the times: > > 2:17.80 (1:53.35) 2:10.04 2:10.49 (2:44.40) 2:15.10 2:17.15 2:20.49 > 2:07.47 2:08.84 2:12.41 2:00.79 > > The average of 10 is 2:12.06. Try to find out a better average of 5 (7 > solves, discarding best and worst times) :). > > Michael Fung > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den > Peereboom" <gillesvdp@> wrote: > > > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > > > Gilles. > > > > 2006/3/28, Frank Morris <ephem825@>: > > > It was better. > > > > > > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@> wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > > > > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > > > > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average > > > > > > Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3156. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:45:03 -0000

Ummm...One question that will end this debate... What is the average age in the top 10 (15,20, whatever you want)...and what are the highest and lowest...I guarantee they range from 14-30+...AGE DOESN'T MATTER... The end... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...> wrote: > > I don't think I'm really for this non-puzzle-related categorisation > either. Obviously we need to categorise events based on different > puzzles, and different types of solving (e.g. regular speedsolving, > one-handed, BLD, etc.), but any categorisation other than this seems a > bit random to me. If we were going to categorise on age, then why not > gender? (No, I don't think we should, I'm just using the gender example > to illustrate a point.) If it's about encouraging other demographics to > get involved with cubing then I reckon there are far fewer females into > cubing than there are young kids! > > Even though categorising based on gender would obviously work in my > favour, I don't really think it's needed. I'm happy to compete directly > against the guys (of any age!) > > Also, age categorisation sounds like it'd be even *more* work for the > competition organisers who are just volunteers and have enough to do > already! > > Jasmine > http://speedcuber.blogspot.com > > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:46:11 -0800, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> > said: > > > > The Rubik's Cube is VERY easy to master and age has nothing to do with > > a person's ability to master it. It is not a physical sport and young > > or old competitors do not have any disadvantage. I think having > > separate divisions is not necessary. Those who dedicate more effort > > towards mastering the cube will win, that's how it should be!! There > > is no reason to celebrate those who did not achieve top rankings > > because they have an equal opportunity to reach those positions, if > > they put in the effort. > > I remember when I first started cubing, I was waaaaaaaay slower than > > everyone else. I thought sub-20 was completely unattainable for me. > > Knowing that I had to get to that point to be competitive was a > > motivation and I got faster because of it. If we celebrate mediocrity, > > then people will have no reason to practice! > > The best cuber is the one who puts forth the more effort...and wins! > > That's how it should be. > > -Chris > > On 3/28/06, Jeff Soesbe <yeff@...> wrote: > > > All -- > > > > > > I think the point would be to build interest in speedcubing by > > > providing a couple more avenues for younger or older competitors (or > > > for "newbies") to get some recognition when competing against > > > the "professionals". > > > > > > Here's three models I can think of, leveraged from other competitions: > > > > > > - Age Grouping. This is often done in athletic competitions (swimming, > > > running, etc). Everyone runs the same race and there is an overall > > > winner, but also there is recognition for Under-12, Under-18, 18-25, > > > 25-35, etc. > > > > > > For cubing, you have the one standard competition but at the end, > > > recognize the top 12-and-under, the best 40-and-over, and any other > > > age categories. So, a John Louis might be 22nd, but the top 12-and- > > > under. And I can dream of one day beating Lars in the 40-and-over. > > > > > > > > > - Competition Result Grouping. This is done in crossword competitions. > > > You are a rookie until you're one of the top 4-8 rookies in a > > > competition, then you move up to C division, then B division, etc (up > > > to Open division). Everyone does the same competition, but recognition > > > is done based on the divisions. > > > > > > You can also self-place in divisions, if you are new but good and want > > > a shot at being in a higher division. But once you self-place, you're > > > in that division for future competitions. > > > > > > This requires tracking past competition results, which we have on > > > speedcubing.com, but also requires having large enough competitions so > > > that you aren't in top 4-8 with a big time. Probably not as workable > > > right now, except at the big competitions. > > > > > > > > > - Self-Grouping. This is how some european football leagues run. When > > > you sign up, you put yourself in a division. If you place high enough > > > in that division, you move up. Similar to Competition Result Grouping, > > > but with self-placing. > > > > > > > > > Personally, I like the concept of adding a couple age divisions (Youth > > > and Masters). But that could be because I'm now over 40! And if it > > > makes the competitions more complicated, forget it - they're already > > > complicated enough as it is. > > > > > > yeff > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > > > So... what's the point of all of this? Just to have a division for > > > the > > > > sake of having a division, or do people actually want to accomplish > > > > something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > [1]Jigsaw puzzle game [2]Free puzzle inlay games [3]Educational game and > > puzzle > > [4]Word puzzle game [5]Kid puzzle game [6]Puzzle games > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "[7]speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > [8]speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [9]Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > References > > > > 1. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > > 2. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6ReWEw > > 3. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R94IVKMFNQ > > 4. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg > > 5. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ > > 6. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA > > 7. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube > > 8. > > mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe > > 9. http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - I mean, what is it about a decent email service? >
3157. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:03:33 +0200

2006/3/28, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...>: > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 With this, the average of 12 (so removing th best and the worst) is 1.9 and the best of average of 5 (so removing the best and the worst out of these 5 times) is always 2.0 So your example doesn't prove that the best average of 5 can be worse than the average of 12 ;-) (maybe my first question was not so clear) GIlles
3158. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:11:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > 2006/3/28, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...>: > > > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 > > > With this, the average of 12 (so removing th best and the worst) is 1.9 > and the best of average of 5 (so removing the best and the worst out > of these 5 times) is always 2.0 > > So your example doesn't prove that the best average of 5 can be worse > than the average of 12 ;-) (maybe my first question was not so clear) > > GIlles Now I'm really confused. Are you saying 2.0 is not worse than 1.9? If for some reason you say better=larger then replace the 1's by 3's.
3159. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:31:23 +1100

On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 07:43:09PM +0200, Gilles van den Peereboom wrote: > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > But how could we prove this mathematically ? Do you mean average of 12, or average of the middle 10 of 12? And, Do you mean average of 5, or average of the middle 3 of 5? Ryan
3160. Re: tiles
From: "qwertyelmer123" <qwertyelmer123@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 05:35:35 -0000

> Try Mefferts.com <http://www.mefferts.com> . The assembly cube isn't anything impressive, but they have sets of ABS plastic tiles for sale > > Ben > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" <evan.gates@...> wrote: > > So I just got my first set of cubesmith tiles and put them on a blank > cube I had, and they are amazing. But at the same time, they are more > just stiff stickers than actual tiles. I was wondering if there is > anywhere to get tiles more like those on a deluxe cube. I use to have > a bunch of cheep cubes with tiles, but the tiles broke easily and now > I'm out. So if anyone knows anything, just let me know. > > Thank you, > -Evan > > Until next time, Happy Cubing > http://www.deepcube.net > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3161. Re: new 4x4x4 edges method
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:09:55 -0000

Hey Frederick and Stefan and everyone, I've been still working on this new pairing technique and I really do like it. I think it will be faster, but I don't have proof of that yet. I've been working on doing some stop/start solves and I either get the edges right and really fast or I screw them up and get a slow time. So take it as you will. I did a stop start average stopping for centers/edges/3x3x3 to record the time. The total is on the right. 15.16 23.62 24.02 = 62.80 no parities 14.31 20.66 28.03 = 63.00 both parities 14.18 31.75 32.25 = 78.18 OLL parity 14.69 24.92 23.00 = 62.61 no parities Again the times are in the format centers/edges/3x3. those times aren't much evidence, but I'm getting fairly tired. I'll try to do this some more. It seems I either mess up my edges and get 1:20+ or I get them right and like just now I got a 63.87 solve with both parities. So my times are all over the place. In short I hope it will be faster in the long run, but for now it is slower. I want to try it anyway, since I think it is fun. Now as to what I do, I either do d R U R' d' or u' R U R' u rather than always doing d R U R' d' type moves. This seems like a really insignificant change, but it is more looking than I am used to, but I think it will be worth it. Again it sounds like a small change, but I think it will speed me up personally. Also, Frederick, I like your idea how is it working out for you? I like the ability to just solve a significant groups of edges all together without having to do 2 pairing or 6 pairing the usual way. Does it seem like it will be faster, or is it faster for you already? I think the 4x4 can really get to sub-60 but man it still seems like a long way away. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if it's already been done but no one has posted it. Just my ramblings in case anyone is interested. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frédérick BADIE <f_badie@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I'm working a lot on my 4x4x4 edges method too. > > The idea was to find an alg for each lenght of cycle with the same > start position. > > I set up the first pair, the second, the third ect... until the 10th > always by the same way, but I use the appropriate alg if the cycle is > shorter than 10. > I try to calculate the parity during this step. > In average, it leaves 3 or 4 pairs unsolved then I fix them and parity > with the appropriate alg. > > Here's the website : frederickbadie.free.fr , I wrote it quickly. > > Any comments are welcome. > > Frederick. >
3162. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:05:49 +0200

Are you serious (or joking as Stefan)? ----- Original Message ----- From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:10 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News Hi Gilles, Yes, it is possible. It already happened to me almost two moths ago. These where the times: 2:17.80 (1:53.35) 2:10.04 2:10.49 (2:44.40) 2:15.10 2:17.15 2:20.49 2:07.47 2:08.84 2:12.41 2:00.79 The average of 10 is 2:12.06. Try to find out a better average of 5 (7 solves, discarding best and worst times) :). Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > Gilles. > > 2006/3/28, Frank Morris <ephem825@...>: > > It was better. > > > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > > > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > > > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average > > > > Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
3163. Re: 5x5x5 News
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:11:25 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > 2006/3/28, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...>: > > > 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 > > With this, the average of 12 (so removing th best and the worst) is 1.9 > and the best of average of 5 (so removing the best and the worst out > of these 5 times) is always 2.0 > > So your example doesn't prove that the best average of 5 can be worse > than the average of 12 ;-) (maybe my first question was not so clear) Er... are you just worrying about the fact that the averages of 5 are all the same, so there is no single "best" average of 5? If this is the problem, just add a little "random noise" to Stefan's numbers: 1.089206578 2.055663178 2.052116335 2.081878728 2.051945906 2.068590858 2.007672076 2.034954337 2.043153836 2.020417679 2.054760135 1.031008413 Best average of 5/7 = 2.032191612 Average of 10/12 = 1.947848092 Mike
3164. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:17:48 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Are you serious (or joking as Stefan)? It's a serious (and interesting!) point. ;) For 12 times drawn from a given, fixed distribution (Gaussian, say), what is the probability that the best average of 5/7 is bigger than the average of 10/12? I would have to answer this question by running a simulation... Mike
3165. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:34:28 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) > The Rubik's Cube is VERY easy to master and age has nothing to do with a person's ability to master it. Wait 50 years or so and repeat your statement! (But still, I think the idea with age divisions is nonsens. I would rather prefer to take part in a local contest, competing with all, than to go to a WC and be placed in a group for feeble-minded). R
3166. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:53:52 -0800

Fair enough. I will reply in the year 2056 :) -Chris On 3/29/06, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Wait 50 years or so and repeat your statement! > (But still, I think the idea with age divisions is nonsens. I would rather prefer to take part in a local contest, competing with all, than to go to a WC and be placed in a group for feeble-minded). > R
3167. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:45:57 +0200

I´ll be waiting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) Fair enough. I will reply in the year 2056 :) -Chris On 3/29/06, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Wait 50 years or so and repeat your statement! > (But still, I think the idea with age divisions is nonsens. I would rather prefer to take part in a local contest, competing with all, than to go to a WC and be placed in a group for feeble-minded). > R Yahoo! Groups Links
3168. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:10:05 -0000

Rune, Were you just saying that in 50 years the beginner methods will be Fridrich and Petrus, and the advanced will be like...something insane??? So beginners will take longer to learn?!?! Whats the difference between now and 50 years???(I know you are older than us...but I think that young and old alike can learn at whatever pace they want to) Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I´ll be waiting. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) > > > Fair enough. I will reply in the year 2056 :) > > -Chris > > On 3/29/06, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Wait 50 years or so and repeat your statement! > > (But still, I think the idea with age divisions is nonsens. I would rather prefer to take part in a local contest, competing with all, than to go to a WC and be placed in a group for feeble-minded). > > R > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
3169. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:58:39 -0000

Hi, This average is not a joke. Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Are you serious (or joking as Stefan)? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:10 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News > > > Hi Gilles, > Yes, it is possible. It already happened to me almost two moths ago. > These where the times: > > 2:17.80 (1:53.35) 2:10.04 2:10.49 (2:44.40) 2:15.10 2:17.15 2:20.49 > 2:07.47 2:08.84 2:12.41 2:00.79 > > The average of 10 is 2:12.06. Try to find out a better average of 5 (7 > solves, discarding best and worst times) :). > > Michael Fung > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den > Peereboom" <gillesvdp@> wrote: > > > > Just a math question : is it possible than the best average of 5 out > > of an average of 12 could be worse than the average of 12 ? > > > > My feeling is that it's impossible. > > But how could we prove this mathematically ? > > > > Gilles. > > > > 2006/3/28, Frank Morris <ephem825@>: > > > It was better. > > > > > > > > > Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@> wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I was able to average 1:57.61 for an > > > > average of 10 on the 5x5x5. There were no lucky times, and the best > > > > average of 5 wasn't too different from the overall average > > > > > > Was the best average of 5 better or worse than the overall average? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and > 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links >
3170. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:05:00 +0200

Craig, you are drawing strange conclusions from what I have said! Chris is 22 now and telling us that cubing ability has nothing to do with age. HOw can he be so sure? That´s why I asked him (indirectly) to confirm his statement after half a century. (And what do you mean by "young and old alike can learn at whatever pace they want to"? If I understand you correctly (I often misunderstand things nowadays), you yourself can - if you wish - get an average e.g. under ten sec. So why not go ahead! I´m waiting with exitement.) Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) Rune, Were you just saying that in 50 years the beginner methods will be Fridrich and Petrus, and the advanced will be like...something insane??? So beginners will take longer to learn?!?! Whats the difference between now and 50 years???(I know you are older than us...but I think that young and old alike can learn at whatever pace they want to) Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I´ll be waiting. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) > > > Fair enough. I will reply in the year 2056 :) > > -Chris > > On 3/29/06, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Wait 50 years or so and repeat your statement! > > (But still, I think the idea with age divisions is nonsens. I would rather prefer to take part in a local contest, competing with all, than to go to a WC and be placed in a group for feeble-minded). > > R > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Links
3171. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:44:29 +0200

I thougt two extreme values were supposed to have been descarded, when the question is given. In that case it´s close to an axiom that the overall average can´t be better than the best average of 5. Is it clear that the "best average of 5" implies discarding of two extreme values? But the interesting thing is why the question on the whole was given? Could the reason be anything else than to give someone a little puzzling? R From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:17 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Are you serious (or joking as Stefan)? It's a serious (and interesting!) point. ;) For 12 times drawn from a given, fixed distribution (Gaussian, say), what is the probability that the best average of 5/7 is bigger than the average of 10/12? I would have to answer this question by running a simulation... Mike Yahoo! Groups Links
3172. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:49:39 +0200

No, I think he meant that some people learn more or less quickly, depending on motivation, free time, etc. but not necessarily age. For example, some people learn the full set of 21PLL in, say, 3 days, and it takes some people 2 weeks or longer, because either they don't have much spare time or are bad at remembering things or just don't practice enough or whatnot. And while I'm at it, I might as well give my opinion. Unless you have a physical or technical excuse to not being fast, with more or less practice, just about anyone (at any age) can be fast at cubing. Fast being, sub-20 at least, and I do believe it's quite easy with some motivation to get sub-15. But let's say sub-20 is already considered as good. However, with getting older some problems start coming, like, I dunno, sight problems, your reflexes get slower, why not Parkinson while we are at it, but that's something I consider as a technicality rather than an age issue. And as for any other sport, there will be the elite, for example the sub-15 guys (that's not being that much of an elite nowadays...), but see, I don't see why someone aged 13 would be starting off with an advantage on someone aged 45. On a lesser extent, take the current unofficial top-10. I don't know everyone, but being French, I do know most of these guys (hehe... sorry.) The first 2 are around 20-21, then Macky (I'm not 100% sure so I wouldn't want to upset him by telling a wrong age), Thibault Jacquinot (should be around 17), Nathan is somewhere near 20, the next 2 I have no idea, then take Gilles, he speedsolves cubes in lesser moves (STM, although... it might work in HTM too?) than his age (in years) on a daily basis and is still fast! So my point is: cubing is one of those "cool" things. Many cubers cube because, yeah, it's fun, it's fast, it's impressive and why not, it gets you chicks (although that's not a proved fact). But for (many of, I don't want to upset anyone, I'm just pretty sure a good part of) those aged 30+, cubing was "cool" in the 80es, and most likely they either picked up the habit since to just cube around or they put it aside for 20 years and then found it in a corner of the house. But you won't find a lot of new cubers aged 30 (although that's still feasible), 40 or 50. Therefore, with less people with possibly less free time than High School kids, and other things to worry about, you get to a smaller pool of competitive people. Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random people in good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 people having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give each of these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from pool A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? I think it's all a matter of time you put into cubing rather than a matter of age. You can be good at whatever age you want if you don't miss a thumb or an arm and if you practice enough. The only thing that really differs is probably the method of learning which can be fairly different between two people (not the solving method, I don't care about it). I was probably a slow learner, and more than that, a lazy learner, the least algs I knew the better, took me one year to get under 20s. But many here get sub-16 in one year, and know a couple different methods plus blindfolded plus own about a dozen different cubes and are good at each one of them. I'm not. I don't know the OLL, nor any fancy trick for solving the F2L, I just solve it routinely and that's all I want. Different aims, different purposes. That, or I'm completely off-topic and have been spaming everyone about a discussion I haven't been completely following since its beginning. If that's the case, just ignore me. I've been writing for too long and I definitely had better things to do. Like, practicing what is going to not become my job it I keep being so lazy. F. Rune Wesström a écrit : > Craig, > you are drawing strange conclusions from what I have said! Chris is > 22 now and telling us that cubing ability has nothing to do with age. > HOw can he be so sure? That´s why I asked him (indirectly) to confirm > his statement after half a century. (And what do you mean by "young > and old alike can learn at whatever pace they want to"? If I > understand you correctly (I often misunderstand things nowadays), you > yourself can - if you wish - get an average e.g. under ten sec. > So why not go ahead! I´m waiting with exitement.) > Rune > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > re: YOUNGEST) > > > Rune, > > Were you just saying that in 50 years the beginner methods will be > Fridrich and Petrus, and the advanced will be like...something > insane??? So beginners will take longer to learn?!?! Whats the > difference between now and 50 years???(I know you are older than > us...but I think that young and old alike can learn at whatever pace > they want to) > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > I´ll be waiting. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:53 AM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models > (was re: YOUNGEST) > > > > > > Fair enough. I will reply in the year 2056 :) > > > > -Chris > > > > On 3/29/06, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > Wait 50 years or so and repeat your statement! > > > (But still, I think the idea with age divisions is nonsens. I > would rather prefer to take part in a local contest, competing with > all, than to go to a WC and be placed in a group for feeble-minded). > > > R > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3173. Hi guys
From: eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:55:07 -0000

lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have YET to solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if someone could teach me how to even solve it =P. Thanks.
3174. Re: [Speed cubing group] Hi guys
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:09:17 +0200

There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them are so called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you should find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now I'm averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I think your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) Good luck! Aron On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have YET to > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if someone > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3175. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:38:09 +0200

I should have done this from the beginning : an excel sheet ! Times Best 1 1 1 2 2 Worst 2 3 2 4 2 5 2 Average of 12 : 1,9 6 2 Average of 5 : 2 7 2 8 2 9 2 10 2 11 2 12 1 SI this proves that my first statement was wrong. THank you very much everybody and excuse me for being stubborn :p GIlles. 2006/3/29, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>: > I thougt two extreme values were supposed to have been descarded, when the question is given. In that case it´s close to an axiom that the overall average can´t be better than the best average of 5. Is it clear that the "best average of 5" implies discarding of two extreme values? > But the interesting thing is why the question on the whole was given? Could the reason be anything else than to give someone a little puzzling? > R From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:17 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Are you serious (or joking as Stefan)? > > It's a serious (and interesting!) point. ;) > > For 12 times drawn from a given, fixed distribution (Gaussian, say), > what is the probability that the best average of 5/7 is bigger than the > average of 10/12? I would have to answer this question by running a > simulation... > > Mike > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3176. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:59:45 +0200

And What was your first statement? (It seemes to me that you have pointed out the worst average). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@...m> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News I should have done this from the beginning : an excel sheet ! Times Best 1 1 1 2 2 Worst 2 3 2 4 2 5 2 Average of 12 : 1,9 6 2 Average of 5 : 2 7 2 8 2 9 2 10 2 11 2 12 1 SI this proves that my first statement was wrong. THank you very much everybody and excuse me for being stubborn :p GIlles. 2006/3/29, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@hem.utfors.se>: > I thougt two extreme values were supposed to have been descarded, when the question is given. In that case it´s close to an axiom that the overall average can´t be better than the best average of 5. Is it clear that the "best average of 5" implies discarding of two extreme values? > But the interesting thing is why the question on the whole was given? Could the reason be anything else than to give someone a little puzzling? > R From: "mike_go_uk" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:17 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Are you serious (or joking as Stefan)? > > It's a serious (and interesting!) point. ;) > > For 12 times drawn from a given, fixed distribution (Gaussian, say), > what is the probability that the best average of 5/7 is bigger than the > average of 10/12? I would have to answer this question by running a > simulation... > > Mike > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
3177. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:32:37 -0000

Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of practice. You dare to say sub-15? It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). My opinion differs. Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random people in > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 people > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give each of > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from pool > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? Yes I do. Definitely! Gilles.
3178. [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:53:26 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > But the interesting thing is why the question on the whole was > given? Could the reason be anything else than to give someone a > little puzzling? > R If you mean my question then yeah, sole reason was that I thought people would believe it's not possible for the shorter average to be worse.
3179. Re: 5x5x5 News (probability)
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:57:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > For 12 times drawn from a given, fixed distribution (Gaussian, say), > what is the probability that the best average of 5/7 is bigger than the > average of 10/12? I would have to answer this question by running a > simulation... OK, I did the simulation for Gaussian- and uniformly-distributed random numbers, using 10,000,000 trials each time. The probability that the best average of 5/7 is greater than the average of 10/12 comes out as Gaussian: 0.05550 +/- 0.00007 Uniform: 0.05467 +/- 0.00007 Surprising (maybe) that the results are so similar for the two distributions -- about 5.5% in each case. Mike
3180. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 5x5x5 News
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:39:58 +0200

THat's exactly that Stefan, thank you :-) Gilles. 2006/3/29, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...>: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > But the interesting thing is why the question on the whole was > > given? Could the reason be anything else than to give someone a > > little puzzling? > > R > > If you mean my question then yeah, sole reason was that I thought > people would believe it's not possible for the shorter average to be > worse. > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3181. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:06:01 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > My opinion differs. > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > people in > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > people > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > each of > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > pool > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > Yes I do. > Definitely! > > > Gilles. > It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change the above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are in the ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but sprinters, Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the same. The muscles in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the legs, like the nerves (and the brain) behind. They are all subject of aging (which begins at birth). The difference is that the deterioration in the fingers goes so slow that we notice it relatively late. Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be exceptional. R > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3182. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 12:41:50 -0800

How do you explain musicians? The muscles in the fingers do age, but the muscles aren't being pushed to their physical limits. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > re: YOUNGEST) > > >> >> Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of >> practice. You dare to say sub-15? >> >> It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a >> 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when >> I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). >> >> My opinion differs. >> >> Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are >> easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without >> suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! >> >> >>> Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good >>> physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random >> people in >>> good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 >> people >>> having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give >> each of >>> these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come >>> back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from >> pool >>> A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? >> >> Yes I do. >> Definitely! >> >> >> Gilles. >> > It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change > the above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are > in the ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but > sprinters, Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the > same. The muscles in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the > legs, like the nerves (and the brain) behind. They are all subject of > aging (which begins at birth). The difference is that the > deterioration in the fingers goes so slow that we notice it relatively > late. > Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > exceptional. > R >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3183. Re: [Speed cubing group] Hi guys
From: "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:31:33 -0000

Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that came with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how long you want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January 28th of this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend at least two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week after I did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every couple of days. So be persistant and have fun! Mike <elvstone@...> wrote: > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them are so > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you should > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now I'm > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I think > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > Good luck! > > Aron > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have YET to > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if someone > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3184. One-handed slice moves?
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:00:19 -0000

Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too much :S i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what direction teh move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the fastest way I can think of doing it. Thanks ~Thom
3185. My first successful blindfolded solve!!!!
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:07:53 -0000

Hi everybody!! I just did my first succesful blindfolded solve in a time of 7:53.86. :-D It was like my 10th try so I´m really happy to finally make it all the way, and don't mess up anything with the setup-moves. I memorized the permutation of the pieces as cycles and for the orientation I just memorized them as how I´m going to solve them. /Gunnar
3186. Re: [Speed cubing group] My first successful blindfolded solve!!!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:13:31 -0300 (ART)

Congratulations! Is a really good feel to open your eyes and see the cube solved, no? Pedro Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> escreveu: Hi everybody!! I just did my first succesful blindfolded solve in a time of 7:53.86. :-D It was like my 10th try so I´m really happy to finally make it all the way, and don't mess up anything with the setup-moves. I memorized the permutation of the pieces as cycles and for the orientation I just memorized them as how I´m going to solve them. /Gunnar SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger com voz - Instale agora e faça ligações de graça. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3187. Re: [Speed cubing group] My first successful blindfolded solve!!!!
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:25:41 -0000

Yes, it surely is a good feeling. My excitement when I saw the solved cube is in quite a big contrast to my disappointment when I failed my first 10 tries. :-) /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Congratulations! > > Is a really good feel to open your eyes and see the cube solved, no? > > Pedro > > Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> escreveu: > Hi everybody!! > > I just did my first succesful blindfolded solve in a time of 7:53.86. :-D > It was like my 10th try so I´m really happy to finally make it all the > way, and don't mess up anything with the setup-moves. > > I memorized the permutation of the pieces as cycles and for the > orientation I just memorized them as how I´m going to solve them. > > /Gunnar > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger com voz - Instale agora e faça ligações de graça. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3188. Re: [Speed cubing group] Hi guys
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:37:40 -0000

I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all days except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 sec. How do you do that? I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased from my memory now. -toad "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@...> wrote: > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that came > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how long you > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January 28th of > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend at least > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week after I > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every couple > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > Mike > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them are so > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you should > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now I'm > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I think > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > Good luck! > > > > Aron > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have YET to > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if someone > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3189. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 17:32:55 -0600

L2 U S U2 S' U L2 is really pretty easily accomplished with one hand. Way back in the day I used to use it for speedsolving. I think that describes the way you're doing it. -Mike On 3/29/06, thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too much :S > > i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with > the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what direction teh > move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the > fastest way I can think of doing it. > > Thanks > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3190. Re: Hi guys
From: "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:46:44 -0000

For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, put the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle layer edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet the edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you do that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned pair or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are oriented correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then execute an OLL. From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all days > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 sec. > How do you do that? > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased from > my memory now. > > -toad > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that came > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how long > you > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January 28th > of > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend at > least > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > after I > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every > couple > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > Mike > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them > are so > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you > should > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now > I'm > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I > think > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have > YET to > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > someone > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3191. Re: Hi guys
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 02:11:37 -0000

Do you put the cross on the D lair, L lair, or U lair? I just tried the alg you posted and it messed up another corner edge pair the I already placed. Or do you just not use a cross at all? I sometimes use the 2x2 block method. "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...> wrote: > > For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner > sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, put > the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle layer > edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet the > edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you do > that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you > only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned pair > or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. > On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are oriented > correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then > execute an OLL. >From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all days > > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 sec. > > How do you do that? > > > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased from > > my memory now. > > > > -toad > > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that came > > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how long > > you > > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January 28th > > of > > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend at > > least > > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > > after I > > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every > > couple > > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them > > are so > > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you > > should > > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now > > I'm > > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I > > think > > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have > > YET to > > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > > someone > > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3192. Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 02:18:34 -0000

What is your favorite Rubik's Cube (no pyraminx, etc...)? Mine is the 2x2, except that my only one was broken at a concert and I wont see another one for a week. I'm surprisingly better at a keychain 3x3 than a regular 3x3...and it takes less silacone and speedcube making than a regular one :)
3193. 2 or 3 Look LL algs
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 02:26:50 -0000

Where can I find some? I've looked on a bunch of sites, but can't find any. Or mabey I'm just really clueless and have seen hundreds and not known it...
3194. Re: 2 or 3 Look LL algs
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:32:43 -0000

http://cubewhiz.com/oll.html http://cubewhiz.com/pll.html If you don't like all of the sequences listed on that site, then try from the 16 links at the bottom of the page. You'll find ones that you like :) For a typical 2-look LL you need 57 orientation (OLL) and 21 permutation (PLL) algorithms. Generally, 3-look LL is orient edges (3 algs), orient corners (7 algs), and then PLL (21). Try different sites; mix and match to make your own list of algorithms. Also, start with a 4-look LL and build up to a 2--don't dive right into OLL and expect to learn it easily. Hope this helps, Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > > Where can I find some? I've looked on a bunch of sites, but can't find > any. Or mabey I'm just really clueless and have seen hundreds and not > known it... >
3195. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:38:09 -0500

----- Original Message ----- From: "jond93" <jond93@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at > What is your favorite Rubik's Cube (no pyraminx, etc...)? The 3x3x3, without a doubt. It's the classic cube that started it all. Definitely my favorite by far. Anthony Hsu
3196. Re: [Speed cubing group] 2 or 3 Look LL algs
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:36:48 -0800 (PST)

Any site has LL algs. If you want a 2LLL, learn all of the algorithms on one of these sites... 78 algs in all. For a 3LLL, you simply learn the algs which orient only edges, th ose which orient only corners, and you learn all the permutation algs. http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html learn all 21 cases for a 3LLL or 2LLL http://www.cubewhiz.com/oll.html learn the first 10 cases for a 3LLL I dont think I'll ever even try to learn a full 2LLL. I am just finishing learning a full 3LLL and from what I've heard, that is good enough to average sub-20, and I dont plan on ever geting that good even,... so ya. I learned a 4LLL first. I am able to average around a minute with a 4LLL, so maybe do that first if you haven't yet... but maybe i'm making an ass of myself, and you can already average better than a minute.. hehe (for a 4LLL, you learn only the first 7 of the algs on the PLL page) good luck David jond93 <jond93@...> wrote: Where can I find some? I've looked on a bunch of sites, but can't find any. Or mabey I'm just really clueless and have seen hundreds and not known it... SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3197. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2 or 3 Look LL algs
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:39:24 -0800 (PST)

And Tim responded before me and gave you exactly the same links and info. Oh well :) Too bad it is taking a while for these messages to deliver. Good luck Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: http://cubewhiz.com/oll.html http://cubewhiz.com/pll.html If you don't like all of the sequences listed on that site, then try from the 16 links at the bottom of the page. You'll find ones that you like :) For a typical 2-look LL you need 57 orientation (OLL) and 21 permutation (PLL) algorithms. Generally, 3-look LL is orient edges (3 algs), orient corners (7 algs), and then PLL (21). Try different sites; mix and match to make your own list of algorithms. Also, start with a 4-look LL and build up to a 2--don't dive right into OLL and expect to learn it easily. Hope this helps, Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > > Where can I find some? I've looked on a bunch of sites, but can't find > any. Or mabey I'm just really clueless and have seen hundreds and not > known it... > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1��/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3198. Re: Hi guys
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:37:15 -0000

Hello Mike. For your method, it should always have no more than 4 moves per corner, and the edge is 6-7 moves, so you end up with 38 moves after the cross on average just for the first two layers. Now, a normal LBL method would use only a couple more. Do you use any of the other easy ones like when the edge is already inserted correctly and the easy connected pair ones? Because I really don't see too much of an advantage with this method. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...> wrote: > > For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner > sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, put > the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle layer > edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet the > edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you do > that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you > only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned pair > or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. > On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are oriented > correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then > execute an OLL. From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all days > > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 sec. > > How do you do that? > > > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased from > > my memory now. > > > > -toad > > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that came > > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how long > > you > > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January 28th > > of > > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend at > > least > > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > > after I > > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every > > couple > > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them > > are so > > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you > > should > > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now > > I'm > > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I > > think > > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have > > YET to > > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > > someone > > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3199. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:42:38 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jond93" <jond93@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:18 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at > > What is your favorite Rubik's Cube (no pyraminx, etc...)? > > The 3x3x3, without a doubt. It's the classic cube that started it all. > Definitely my favorite by far. > > Anthony Hsu > 5x5x5. I figured it out all by myself, that's why I like it. :) Bleh, if all Rubik's puzzles allowed, it'd have to be Magic or Megaminx.
3200. Re: Hi guys
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:50:28 -0000

Hi Tim If you're doing Fridrich's method, 56 moves is average according to her page (http://tinyurl.com/mwcb) I'm not sure about that claim of the average for LBL being just over 38...doing a standard LBL with no F2L with 4LLL would be somewhere around 90 moves. The (RUR'U')*2 sequence can be done quite quickly, which is an advantage. Also, what makes sense to one person might not make a whole lot of sense to another (which makes teaching the cube difficult). If it works for him, and makes sense to him, good. Self-developed methods make infinite amounts of sense to the inventor, making them powerful in that sense. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Hello Mike. > > For your method, it should always have no more than 4 moves per > corner, and the edge is 6-7 moves, so you end up with 38 moves after > the cross on average just for the first two layers. Now, a normal > LBL method would use only a couple more. Do you use any of the other > easy ones like when the edge is already inserted correctly and the > easy connected pair ones? Because I really don't see too much of an > advantage with this method. > > Tim > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Stewart" > <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner > > sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, > put > > the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle > layer > > edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet > the > > edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you > do > > that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you > > only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned > pair > > or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. > > On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are > oriented > > correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then > > execute an OLL. From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. > > > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > > > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all > days > > > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 > sec. > > > How do you do that? > > > > > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased > from > > > my memory now. > > > > > > -toad > > > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that > came > > > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how > long > > > you > > > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January > 28th > > > of > > > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend > at > > > least > > > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > > > after I > > > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes > every > > > couple > > > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of > them > > > are so > > > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and > you > > > should > > > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, > and now > > > I'm > > > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, > so I > > > think > > > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: > > > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i > have > > > YET to > > > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by > say a > > > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > > > someone > > > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3201. Re: Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:55:14 -0000

Bleagh, I'll be dull and say 3x3. I take longer to solve 2x2 than 3x3 and my 5x5 times are even more despicable. 4x4 is second-placed, but I usually stick to the 3. Best cube? Rubiks.com DIY. Although my PB is with a cube from...eh...yeah, I don't remember where I got it. I think it was a birthday present a few years back. Not sure, really, at all where I got it. Keychain is too small for my hands. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > > What is your favorite Rubik's Cube (no pyraminx, etc...)? Mine is the > 2x2, except that my only one was broken at a concert and I wont see > another one for a week. > > I'm surprisingly better at a keychain 3x3 than a regular 3x3...and it > takes less silacone and speedcube making than a regular one :) >
3202. Re: Hi guys
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 04:04:41 -0000

Hello Tim. :P Hrm. It seems that the corners on LBL takes more moves than I thought. It should be something like 50 for the F2L minus cross. :/ I meant a few over 38 for the corners on first layer and middle edges. Well, she claims 56, but it doesn't take into account for 1) setting up each corner pair on F2L 2) positioning move in between OLL and PLL. I tried out the method described here (improperly placing corners) the night before reading that message, actually. :P It seemed to work pretty well, except I came to parts with improperly orient corners in the wrong place. When I'm doing this method, where I put the edges match with the centers, for example: DFR corner twisted so that D sticker is at F. Where I put the edge on the U-layer depends on the sticker that's not at U. If that sticker is an F-sticker, then I put it at UB, if it's R, UR. If the corner is in the wrong place, it gets harder, since I don't have the centers as reference points. Bleh, I hate making mistakes in this method. Is there any easier way of doing this? Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > Hi Tim > > If you're doing Fridrich's method, 56 moves is average according to > her page > (http://tinyurl.com/mwcb) > I'm not sure about that claim of the average for LBL being just over > 38...doing a standard LBL with no F2L with 4LLL would be somewhere > around 90 moves. The (RUR'U')*2 sequence can be done quite quickly, > which is an advantage. Also, what makes sense to one person might > not make a whole lot of sense to another (which makes teaching the > cube difficult). If it works for him, and makes sense to him, > good. Self-developed methods make infinite amounts of sense to the > inventor, making them powerful in that sense. > > Tim
3203. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:15:00 -0800

I do one handed slice moves, and I think it's pretty efficient. Assume the right hand. You put your thumb on the F sticker of the UF edge, and the middle finger on the opposite sticker on UB. Then simultaneously move the L and R layer using the index and ring fingers. That's it! It's a pretty good grip to keep doing other moves with too. /Lars On Mar 29, 2006, at 14:00, thomkirjava wrote: > Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too > much :S > > i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with > the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what direction teh > move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the > fastest way I can think of doing it. > > Thanks > > ~Thom
3204. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:28:51 -0800

Do you know how musicians' performance change with their age? I know dancers retire at around 40, but that's an extreme form. I wouldn't expect much in the way of extreme virtuoso performances from the over 40 crowd, but maybe I'm wrong? It's another matter that older musicians can play better is some ways due to their life experience and emotional maturity etc. Personally I don't *feel* any slower than 25 years ago, but I would guess that I probably am. It's very hard to notice a (say) 1% per year degradation. The biggest difference is probably that I just don't care nearly as much, and that I have 10 times as many other things to preoccupy my mind with. /Lars On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:41, Tyson Mao wrote: > How do you explain musicians? The muscles in the fingers do age, but > the muscles aren't being pushed to their physical limits. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology
3205. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:39:50 +0200

Rune, well, being a cellist, I think I know quite well what fingers can or can't do at certain ages. Rostropovitch kinda stopped playing, he still conducts though, but he can't play anymore (I heard him the other day, it wasn't that nice, let's say he had an easy and uncontrolled vibrato...). But he's almost 80 and not in his best shape. And again, that's more a physical constraint than just an age issue. He can't play anymore, well, then he just doesn't play, that's all. A runner with no legs, no matter what age, wouldn't run. Jacqueline Du Pré died at age 42, she was probably able to play until she was 30 or so. Then she quit. You know, if I feel I can't do a particular passage at a certain pace, I either go slower or practice some more. Let me reformulate my example. Give all people in both pools not the same amount of time, but the very amount they think they need to get good. If someone is a quick learner, he/she will need less time, and if someone is a slow learner, he/she will need more time. You'll get a few very good people in each pool, and I must insist on the fact everyone has about the same motivation and dedication in learning, I believe you'll get good people of about the same level in both pools. Gilles, your argument about not being able to solve a cube blindfolded isn't right. I mean, have you (and I mean you personally) ever tried Stefan's method at least a bit seriously? So how many numbers are you using on a daily basis? credit card, that's 4 digits, pin code of your cell phone, 4 again, your phone number, that's 10, maybe your entrance code (yeah I know you don't have one...), that would be around 4, and a few passwords. That's way over 24 numbers for permutations, and for orientation, photographic memory would do. Then you just go through these numbers and solve them one at a time. Where's the difficulty? Of course, I'm not good at it, I'm slow, I don't succeed every time, but I *can* solve *a* cube blindfolded. In other words, I know how to, I've already solved a cube blindfolded. It just takes some motivation, and again, practice. As for music, I get that feeling of "I'm sorry, but I heard that guy play this concerto, and I'm positive I can't play it" every time I open a new music. Then I get myself to work, start slowly, it sounds bad, then after a while it eventually gets better, I get it up to tempo, I feel safer, I start playing music and not just notes. When I teach musicians how to cube, I often like to compare cubing to sightreading. Sight reading is playing through a piece for the first time, for those who aren't into music. You don't know what's coming next, but you set a pace at the beginning, and don't want to stop, miss something, fail a spot, whatnot. And it seems weird, but sight reading is actually a full-time job in itself. You can learn how to sight read, you can get better at it, of course with being a better player but not only, with practicing sight reading. I once heard a guy accompanying a singer on the piano who was rehearsing his part on some random Wagner opera, you know, one of these huge pieces that last forever with some guy in the middle who's singing while he's taking about 35minutes to die. Anyway. The pianist came in, said "ok, what are we going to play today", the singer tells him, "ah, Parsifal, ok, let's see". The pianist opens the piano, takes the orchestra score and opens it, and starts reducing the 40 parts or so (a typical Wagner orchestra), while playing a minor third lower because it was too high for the singer otherwise, and sings along the bass part. That guy was no particular genius, it just took him a while to learn. It's all a matter of dedication, really, and you can probably start off by being a bit more predisposed to a certain type of work, but that's all. I just doubt all the middle aged people here take as much time to practice their cubing skills as the rest of the kids. Back in High School, I used to cube around 3 or 4 hours a day, counting the bus rides and the solves under the table during the philosophy lesson. I can't afford to lose that much time now, I'm already having enough trouble with fitting my girlfriend into my schedule. Gilles, you're fast, that's a fact, but honestly (I don't know the answer to that question, I could be surprised, but I doubt it), how much have you been practicing, lately? As a musician, I practice around 6h/day. Or at least that's the plan, but I try not to fall under 4h. If I did only one hour each day, I don't even know where I would be now. How many of you above 30 practice more than 2 or 3 hours a day? On a side note, I had a nice concert tonight. We played in the Gaveau Hall in Paris, wonderful sound, Schubert's "Unfinished" symphony (who's the idiot who started calling it unfinished?) and Beethoven's 5th piano concerto. Since we recorded that exact same program last month, we might get a CD shortly, if anyone is interested, email me. Oh and pff, I don't care about it, why did I reply, after all? Does it really matter to you? I mean, if it's a physical issue, then there's nothing we can do about, perhaps having a paralympics sort of event, if you feel you're slow, practice more, if you know that you're slow and don't care, where's the problem, and if you think you're fast, good for you. It's that simple. I think I'll stop replying, considering the time it takes me. I have to wake up in 5h17mins, I think I better fall asleep before. F. Rune Wesström a écrit : > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@free.fr> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > re: YOUNGEST) > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > people in > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > people > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > each of > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > > pool > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > Yes I do. > > Definitely! > > > > > > Gilles. > > > It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change > the above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are > in the ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but > sprinters, Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the > same. The muscles in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the > legs, like the nerves (and the brain) behind. They are all subject of > aging (which begins at birth). The difference is that the > deterioration in the fingers goes so slow that we notice it relatively > late. > Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > exceptional. > R > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3206. Re: Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:32:43 -0000

4x4x4 is by far my favorite cube. I mean the edge pieces are completely independent of the rest of the cube, you can swap two edges without affecting any other piece at all. I just can't get over that. It's like having two different puzzles glued together where a turn on one puzzle will affect pieces in the other one, but both puzzles are still technically completely independent of eachother. So cool! I like the 25th anniversary 3x3's. I've had a bad experience with the DIY so far, but I will get another one with my next cube purchase and see how it goes. Chris
3207. Anywhere to get cubes in London?
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:01:51 -0000

I lost my cube on a recent flight into London. The cube dropped from my seat and, because the seatbelt signs were on, I couldn't look for it. Also, because the plane had been delayed for a day and a half (being the recent snow storm in NYC), I didn't have time to do a search for it after the plane landed. So now I need a new cube. I'm sure there must be a place to get one in London, but I've never bought one here before.
3208. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anywhere to get cubes in London?
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:08:33 +0100

Try Hamleys in Regent Street. Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Anywhere to get cubes in London? > > I lost my cube on a recent flight into London. The cube dropped from my > seat and, > because the seatbelt signs were on, I couldn't look for it. Also, because > the plane had been > delayed for a day and a half (being the recent snow storm in NYC), I > didn't have time to do > a search for it after the plane landed. > So now I need a new cube. I'm sure there must be a place to get one in > London, but I've > never bought one here before. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3209. Re: [Speed cubing group] My first successful blindfolded solve!!!!
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:28:16 +0200

On 3/30/06, Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: > Hi everybody!! > > I just did my first succesful blindfolded solve in a time of 7:53.86. :-D Congratulations man! Trägen vinner. Aron
3210. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:35:19 -0800

Hey, I can solve the cube averaging less moves than my age, too ;-) I am 56, and average about 54 moves per solve...54 slooow moves ;-) about 2 turns per second. As far as aging effects, my best average was about 29 in the 1980's, with a very consistent 14 second average for the first 2 layers (with working corner) and a really poor 4 stage last layer... Now, my first two layers are about 17 average on good days, and my best average is about 24.5 for the entire cube with my 2 look last layer. My first two layers are MUCH more efficient now, and my cubes are much better, but my hand speed is terrible...my time spent practicing is about the same... the hand speed thing seems to be due to aging... People that have seen me cube will say, "sure he's slow, but he doesn't use fingertricks"... and I am working on that...but the point is, I didn't use them averaging 14 for the F2L in 1985... Bill McGaugh >From: Rune Wesstr�m <rune.wesstrom@...> >Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: >YOUNGEST) >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:06:01 +0200 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: >YOUNGEST) > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > people in > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > people > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > each of > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > > pool > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > Yes I do. > > Definitely! > > > > > > Gilles. > > >It�s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change the >above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are in the >ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but sprinters, >Francois would say: "Oh, it�s not the same!" It *is* the same. The muscles >in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the legs, like the nerves >(and the brain) behind. They are all subject of aging (which begins at >birth). The difference is that the deterioration in the fingers goes so >slow that we notice it relatively late. >Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in >lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be >exceptional. >R > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3211. 5x5x5 supercubing algs for the 6th center
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:53:09 -0000

Hey everyone, I just wrote an e-mail sending these to Clancy, but I figured if anyone else was interested I would post here too. Here are some of the algs I use for the 6th center for the 5x5x5. I really just use commutators here, so the center should be all intuitive. But for those looking for just some algs to look at/learn here are the ones I use. Notation: lowercase m,e,s stand for the centralmost slice only. So m is just the inner m slice only. Uppercase M is the turn (l m r') and uppercase S is the turn (f s b') etc.. ------------ edge/+center parity fix: [(Rr)' U2]x4 (Rr)' ------------ 3 cycles: Xcenters: (Rr)2 (Bb)2 (Rr) F (Rr)' (Bb)2 (Rr) F' (Rr) (Rr)' F (Rr)' (Bb)2 (Rr) F' (Rr)' (Bb)2 (Rr)2 and any other commutator you like here, don't have to use rigid algs here. +centers: (Rr) (Ll) e2 (Ll)' U (Ll) e2 (Ll)' U' (Rr)' and any other commutator you like here, don't have to use rigid algs here. blocks: (Ff)' r' (eu') r U r' (e'u) r U' (Ff) and any other commutator you like here, don't have to use rigid algs here. -------------- 2 swaps: E perm on X centers: (Rr)' u' R (Dd)' L' u' (Rr) U2 (Rr)' u L (Dd) R' u (Rr) Z perm on + centers: m s (Dd) s' (Dd)2 m' U2 m (Dd)2 s (Dd)' s' m' H perm on +centers: (Rr) (Ll) e2 (Ll)' (Rr)' U (Rr) (Ll) e2 (Ll)' (Rr)' H perm on Xcenters: (Rr) (Ll) (Dd)2 (Ll)' (Rr)' U (Rr) (Ll) (Dd)2 (Ll)' (Rr)' ----------------- Chris
3212. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:30:17 +0200

I wrote "may". Your 54 moves in average with that speed is astonishing. It´s better than "official" fridrich. And your first two layers in 17 moves is really fantastic. You must describe the method! R PS. I think I´m mistaken. You surely mean 17 sec! (But that´s good too). ----- Original Message ----- From: "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) > > Hey, > > I can solve the cube averaging less moves than my age, too ;-) > > I am 56, and average about 54 moves per solve...54 slooow moves ;-) > about 2 turns per second. > > As far as aging effects, my best average was about 29 in the 1980's, > with a very consistent 14 second average for the first 2 layers (with > working corner) and > a really poor 4 stage last layer... > > Now, my first two layers are about 17 average on good days, and my > best average is about 24.5 for the entire cube with my 2 look last layer. > > My first two layers are MUCH more efficient now, and my cubes are much > better, but my hand speed is terrible...my time spent practicing is about > the same... > the hand speed thing seems to be due to aging... > > People that have seen me cube will say, "sure he's slow, but he doesn't use > fingertricks"... > and I am working on that...but the point is, I didn't use them averaging 14 > for the F2L in 1985... > > > Bill McGaugh > > >From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> > >Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: > >YOUNGEST) > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:06:01 +0200 > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@free.fr> > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: > >YOUNGEST) > > > > > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > > people in > > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > > people > > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > > each of > > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > > > pool > > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > > > Yes I do. > > > Definitely! > > > > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > >It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change the > >above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are in the > >ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but sprinters, > >Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the same. The muscles > >in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the legs, like the nerves > >(and the brain) behind. They are all subject of aging (which begins at > >birth). The difference is that the deterioration in the fingers goes so > >slow that we notice it relatively late. > >Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > >lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > >exceptional. > >R > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3213. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:47:18 +0200

Of course I meant you have to memorize a string of 20 numbers for permutation, not 24... realized that when I woke up this morning. And I forgot to add something, that was nothing against both of you. But that's funny, because I didn't read Tyson's post before (which was, btw, much more concise than mine) nor Lars' (I believe it was Lars'?) about the possible age "limit" in music, and I think I answered both of them at the same time... Anyway. My last comment would be, take it easy, cubing is supposed to be fun, isn't it? (yeah I know, considering these 2 long posts I wrote, I don't quite sound like it...) F. Fran�ois Sechet a �crit : > " That's way over 24 numbers for permutations, and for > orientation, photographic memory would do." ___________________________________________________________________________ Nouveau : t�l�phonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! D�couvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international. T�l�chargez sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com
3214. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:16:54 +0200

Can you do M as well as M´ this way? (If it is so called). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Petrus" <lars@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves? > I do one handed slice moves, and I think it's pretty efficient. > > Assume the right hand. You put your thumb on the F sticker of the UF > edge, and the middle finger on the opposite sticker on UB. Then > simultaneously move the L and R layer using the index and ring > fingers. That's it! > > It's a pretty good grip to keep doing other moves with too. > > /Lars > > On Mar 29, 2006, at 14:00, thomkirjava wrote: > > > Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too > > much :S > > > > i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with > > the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what direction teh > > move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the > > fastest way I can think of doing it. > > > > Thanks > > > > ~Thom > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3215. Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:55:35 -0000

I finally finished my page about the Hungarian Championships that Dan, Jasmine and I visited a few months ago: http://stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/events/budapest2005/ Includes report and pictures as well as links, some to pages with nice videos. Cheers! Stefan
3216. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:24:48 -0800

yes...I did mean 17 seconds for the first two layers...sorry to be unclear. >From: Rune Wesstr�m <rune.wesstrom@...> >Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: >YOUNGEST) >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:30:17 +0200 > >I wrote "may". Your 54 moves in average with that speed is astonishing. >It�s better than "official" fridrich. And your first two layers in 17 moves >is really fantastic. You must describe the method! >R >PS. I think I�m mistaken. You surely mean 17 sec! (But that�s good too). >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...> >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:35 AM >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: >YOUNGEST) > > > > > > Hey, > > > > I can solve the cube averaging less moves than my age, too ;-) > > > > I am 56, and average about 54 moves per solve...54 slooow moves ;-) > > about 2 turns per second. > > > > As far as aging effects, my best average was about 29 in the 1980's, > > with a very consistent 14 second average for the first 2 layers (with > > working corner) and > > a really poor 4 stage last layer... > > > > Now, my first two layers are about 17 average on good days, and my > > best average is about 24.5 for the entire cube with my 2 look last >layer. > > > > My first two layers are MUCH more efficient now, and my cubes are much > > better, but my hand speed is terrible...my time spent practicing is >about > > the same... > > the hand speed thing seems to be due to aging... > > > > People that have seen me cube will say, "sure he's slow, but he doesn't >use > > fingertricks"... > > and I am working on that...but the point is, I didn't use them averaging >14 > > for the F2L in 1985... > > > > > > Bill McGaugh > > > > >From: Rune Wesstr�m <rune.wesstrom@...> > > >Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was >re: > > >YOUNGEST) > > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:06:01 +0200 > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> > > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was >re: > > >YOUNGEST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, >when > > > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > > > people in > > > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > > > people > > > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > > > each of > > > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, >come > > > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people >from > > > > pool > > > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > > > > > Yes I do. > > > > Definitely! > > > > > > > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > >It�s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change >the > > >above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are in the > > >ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but sprinters, > > >Francois would say: "Oh, it�s not the same!" It *is* the same. The >muscles > > >in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the legs, like the >nerves > > >(and the brain) behind. They are all subject of aging (which begins at > > >birth). The difference is that the deterioration in the fingers goes so > > >slow that we notice it relatively late. > > >Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > > >lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > > >exceptional. > > >R > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3217. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:01:53 -0800

No. You'd have to switch hand, but most one handed competitions won't allow that. But you can do M U2 M' U2 easily. /Lars On Mar 30, 2006, at 4:16, Rune Wesström wrote: > Can you do M as well as M´ this way? (If it is so called). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lars Petrus" <lars@netgate.net> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:15 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves? > > >> I do one handed slice moves, and I think it's pretty efficient. >> >> Assume the right hand. You put your thumb on the F sticker of the UF >> edge, and the middle finger on the opposite sticker on UB. Then >> simultaneously move the L and R layer using the index and ring >> fingers. That's it! >> >> It's a pretty good grip to keep doing other moves with too. >> >> /Lars >> >> On Mar 29, 2006, at 14:00, thomkirjava wrote: >> >>> Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too >>> much :S >>> >>> i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with >>> the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what >>> direction teh >>> move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the >>> fastest way I can think of doing it. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> ~Thom >>
3218. Re: Anywhere to get cubes in London?
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:48:57 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > > Try Hamleys in Regent Street. > > Duncan Thanks - I'll check them out. You wouldn't happen to know (off hand) where I can get strangely coloured nail varnish (green, yellow etc.) to paint it? Last time I had to do that I was living on the desolate Isle Of Man which had such a store but I suspect that green and yellow are not common in general. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Anywhere to get cubes in London? > > > > > > I lost my cube on a recent flight into London. The cube dropped from my > > seat and, > > because the seatbelt signs were on, I couldn't look for it. Also, because > > the plane had been > > delayed for a day and a half (being the recent snow storm in NYC), I > > didn't have time to do > > a search for it after the plane landed. > > So now I need a new cube. I'm sure there must be a place to get one in > > London, but I've > > never bought one here before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3219. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:17:54 -0000

Hehe ... Average of 17 moves for f2l is better than most fewest moves experts can normally do :-o So im delighted u didn't make us look like beginners there :-P Have fun ! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...> wrote: > > yes...I did mean 17 seconds for the first two layers...sorry to be unclear. > > >From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> > >Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: > >YOUNGEST) > >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:30:17 +0200 > > > >I wrote "may". Your 54 moves in average with that speed is astonishing. > >It´s better than "official" fridrich. And your first two layers in 17 moves > >is really fantastic. You must describe the method! > >R > >PS. I think I´m mistaken. You surely mean 17 sec! (But that´s good too). > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...> > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:35 AM > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: > >YOUNGEST) > > > > > > > > > > Hey, > > > > > > I can solve the cube averaging less moves than my age, too ;-) > > > > > > I am 56, and average about 54 moves per solve...54 slooow moves ;-) > > > about 2 turns per second. > > > > > > As far as aging effects, my best average was about 29 in the 1980's, > > > with a very consistent 14 second average for the first 2 layers (with > > > working corner) and > > > a really poor 4 stage last layer... > > > > > > Now, my first two layers are about 17 average on good days, and my > > > best average is about 24.5 for the entire cube with my 2 look last > >layer. > > > > > > My first two layers are MUCH more efficient now, and my cubes are much > > > better, but my hand speed is terrible...my time spent practicing is > >about > > > the same... > > > the hand speed thing seems to be due to aging... > > > > > > People that have seen me cube will say, "sure he's slow, but he doesn't > >use > > > fingertricks"... > > > and I am working on that...but the point is, I didn't use them averaging > >14 > > > for the F2L in 1985... > > > > > > > > > Bill McGaugh > > > > > > >From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> > > > >Reply-To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > >re: > > > >YOUNGEST) > > > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:06:01 +0200 > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> > > > >To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > >re: > > > >YOUNGEST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > > > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > > > > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > > > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, > >when > > > > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > > > > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > > > > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > > > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > > > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > > > > people in > > > > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > > > > people > > > > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > > > > each of > > > > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, > >come > > > > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people > >from > > > > > pool > > > > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > > > > > > > Yes I do. > > > > > Definitely! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > >It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change > >the > > > >above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are in the > > > >ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but sprinters, > > > >Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the same. The > >muscles > > > >in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the legs, like the > >nerves > > > >(and the brain) behind. They are all subject of aging (which begins at > > > >birth). The difference is that the deterioration in the fingers goes so > > > >slow that we notice it relatively late. > > > >Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > > > >lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > > > >exceptional. > > > >R > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3220. Evil Twin on ebay
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:36:06 -0000

I know most of you aren't interested in custom puzzles, but it seems like this one appeals to speedcubers because of it's solved state. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6047440475 thanks -mg
3221. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:29:45 -0000

Yeah, you kinda need ot be able to do M and M'.... ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > No. You'd have to switch hand, but most one handed competitions won't > allow that. > > But you can do M U2 M' U2 easily. > > /Lars > > On Mar 30, 2006, at 4:16, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > Can you do M as well as M´ this way? (If it is so called). > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lars Petrus" <lars@...> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves? > > > > > >> I do one handed slice moves, and I think it's pretty efficient. > >> > >> Assume the right hand. You put your thumb on the F sticker of the UF > >> edge, and the middle finger on the opposite sticker on UB. Then > >> simultaneously move the L and R layer using the index and ring > >> fingers. That's it! > >> > >> It's a pretty good grip to keep doing other moves with too. > >> > >> /Lars > >> > >> On Mar 29, 2006, at 14:00, thomkirjava wrote: > >> > >>> Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too > >>> much :S > >>> > >>> i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with > >>> the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what > >>> direction teh > >>> move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the > >>> fastest way I can think of doing it. > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> ~Thom > >> >
3222. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:02:52 +0200

"People", was it Macky et consortes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "bmcgaugh49 MCGAUGH" <bmcgaugh49@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) > People that have seen me cube will say, "sure he's slow, but he doesn't use > fingertricks"...
3223. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:33:59 -0000

Hi :-) Megaminx is not a rubik's puzzle. I wouldn't really call the 5x5x5 a rubik's puzzle either since it was invented by Udo Krell in 1983. Likewise the 4x4x4 was invented by Peter Sebesteny in 1982. However rubiks.com do sell those 2 latter puzzles and have right to do so ;-) Megaminx is invented by Uwe Meffert and sold by Mefferts ;-) My favorite is also the 5x5x5 cube, at least when it comes to speedcubing. I also like fewest moves puzling on various puzzles, particularly on the 3x3x3 6-color cube (and supercube). Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Hsu > <erwaman@> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "jond93" <jond93@> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:18 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at > > > What is your favorite Rubik's Cube (no pyraminx, etc...)? > > > > The 3x3x3, without a doubt. It's the classic cube that started it > all. > > Definitely my favorite by far. > > > > Anthony Hsu > > > > 5x5x5. I figured it out all by myself, that's why I like it. :) Bleh, > if all Rubik's puzzles allowed, it'd have to be Magic or Megaminx. >
3224. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:14:26 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Megaminx is invented by Uwe Meffert and sold by Mefferts ;-) Sure? Have a look at the introductory quotes: http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/puzzles/megaminx.htm
3225. Re: Hi guys
From: "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:33:59 -0000

Whoops. Sorry about my first post, it wasn't quite detailed enough. I do it with the cross on the bottom, and I meant FR'F'R instead of FRF'R'. Sorry about that. What I put was the bare outline of what I do. If the edge is placed and oriented correctly, I pull it out with the corner while I'm placing it, and most of the time line the two up in the process. If my D color is facing up, I do the [RUR'U']x3. If the edge is placed, but not oriented, I either line it up with the corner(D color facing up), or pull it out while inserting my corner. For different corner orientations, I do different algorithms to insert it(like RU'R'). I also normally try to put the corner and edge im more favorable positions before I try to insert the corner(Example: Corner in FRU with D color up, and edge in UL position, F color up. I do U'RU'R'U before inserting the corner, because if you do the RUR'U' to place the corner right off the bat, the edge goes in with it. -Mike <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Hello Tim. :P > > Hrm. It seems that the corners on LBL takes more moves than I > thought. It should be something like 50 for the F2L minus cross. :/ > I meant a few over 38 for the corners on first layer and middle > edges. > > Well, she claims 56, but it doesn't take into account for 1) setting > up each corner pair on F2L 2) positioning move in between OLL and > PLL. > > I tried out the method described here (improperly placing corners) > the night before reading that message, actually. :P It seemed to > work pretty well, except I came to parts with improperly orient > corners in the wrong place. When I'm doing this method, where I put > the edges match with the centers, for example: DFR corner twisted so > that D sticker is at F. Where I put the edge on the U-layer depends > on the sticker that's not at U. If that sticker is an F-sticker, > then I put it at UB, if it's R, UR. If the corner is in the wrong > place, it gets harder, since I don't have the centers as reference > points. Bleh, I hate making mistakes in this method. Is there any > easier way of doing this? > > Tim > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > Hi Tim > > > > If you're doing Fridrich's method, 56 moves is average according > to > > her page > > (http://tinyurl.com/mwcb) > > I'm not sure about that claim of the average for LBL being just > over > > 38...doing a standard LBL with no F2L with 4LLL would be somewhere > > around 90 moves. The (RUR'U')*2 sequence can be done quite > quickly, > > which is an advantage. Also, what makes sense to one person might > > not make a whole lot of sense to another (which makes teaching the > > cube difficult). If it works for him, and makes sense to him, > > good. Self-developed methods make infinite amounts of sense to > the > > inventor, making them powerful in that sense. > > > > Tim >
3226. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:10:10 -0000

AAhhh .... Okay, i have actually heard of something called the Halpern-Meier pyramid. But anyway, my point was that the Megaminx is not a rubik invention ;-) His name is credited to far too many puzzles. This actually brings the real inventors into discredit and is not fair. We as a community should know better than the average man in the street and should honor the proper originators of each puzzle :-) This should be reflected in how we refer to the various puzzles. Adding rubik to the "name" of all kinds of possible 3d-twisting puzzles does not make sense ;-) Greets! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > Megaminx is invented by Uwe Meffert and sold by Mefferts ;-) > > Sure? Have a look at the introductory quotes: > http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/puzzles/megaminx.htm >
3227. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:15:07 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > AAhhh .... > > Okay, i have actually heard of something called the Halpern-Meier > pyramid. But anyway, my point was that the Megaminx is not a rubik > invention ;-) His name is credited to far too many puzzles. This > actually brings the real inventors into discredit and is not fair. We > as a community should know better than the average man in the street > and should honor the proper originators of each puzzle :-) This should > be reflected in how we refer to the various puzzles. Adding rubik to > the "name" of all kinds of possible 3d-twisting puzzles does not make > sense ;-) > > Greets! > > -Per It does make sense if you don't see "Rubik" strictly only as the name of the person but as the name of the genre. Compare to this, look at both definitions: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=kleenex&btnG=Go+Dictionary Cheers! Stefan
3228. Ambidexterity
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:37:28 -0000

I've been trying to become ambidextrous for a while now, and I'm thinking of starting to apply it to cubing, even if it's only handy so you don't have to change your hand positions. I've learnt the T-perm with the left hand and am trying fingertricks to build up skills. The thing is, methods in general are one-handed. You do most of the moves with one hand and most tricks. Maybe if you get good at both hands you can apply tricks and maybe do things simultaneously? Thing is, when you get to a senario where you're just using U and M, you use both hands a lot. Mostly for U, as M is a bit weird about being used :P So do you think there are any advanges to this? I can't think of anything particularly good, but maybe someone knows something. Less U rotations during PLL/OLL maybe? I can imagine it'd help you mirrors algs more easily though :) ~Thom
3229. Re: Ambidexterity
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:01:11 -0000

Hey Thom, I've also been trying to become more ambidextrous, in all things not just cubing. I can write slowly left handed with poorer handwriting but still legible and am almost to the point where I can throw a baseball left handed with some speed, but it still feels weird to me. As for ambi-cubing I think it helps definitely. I've found that I'm not really ambidextrous, but that my hands are better at different things. My right hand is good with dextrous hand/wrist movements. Triggers like [(R U') (R' U)] which are "harder triggers" than somthing like (R U R') I tend to prefer right handed. More finger based triggers (LUF type algs) and also finger things like cup stacking or one-handed cubing I tend to be better at left handed. I cup stack left handed and I do my T perm (LUF alg) left handed. I've even tried to get my right handed T perm as fast as my left handed one and I can't do it, my lefty T is faster by a quarter of a second consistently. As to your question, I think ambi-cubing is a really good idea. Even if you don't do everything with both hands equally well, try to find the strengths for each of your hands. I tend to use hand/wrist movements with my right hand and finger triggers with my left when I have a choice. Just my rambling 0.02 Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > I've been trying to become ambidextrous for a while now, and I'm > thinking of starting to apply it to cubing, even if it's only handy so > you don't have to change your hand positions. > > I've learnt the T-perm with the left hand and am trying fingertricks > to build up skills. > > The thing is, methods in general are one-handed. You do most of the > moves with one hand and most tricks. Maybe if you get good at both > hands you can apply tricks and maybe do things simultaneously? > > Thing is, when you get to a senario where you're just using U and M, > you use both hands a lot. Mostly for U, as M is a bit weird about > being used :P > > So do you think there are any advanges to this? I can't think of > anything particularly good, but maybe someone knows something. Less U > rotations during PLL/OLL maybe? > > I can imagine it'd help you mirrors algs more easily though :) > > ~Thom >
3230. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:20:21 +1100

On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:32:43AM -0000, cmhardw wrote: > 4x4x4 is by far my favorite cube. --- 8< --- > It's like having two different puzzles glued together where a turn on > one puzzle will affect pieces in the other one, I think it is 4 puzzles glued together: 1. Corners 2. Left edges 3. Right edges 4. Centres where the left/right edges run around the same orbit, but are out of phase. Maybe you can consider it three puzzles if the left/right edge distinction doesn't matter. Ryan
3231. Re: Ambidexterity
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:00:30 -0000

I've also been trying to do this with cubing. My Ls, L's, U's, and F's are pretty fast but I still have a hard time with M. I can do M' fast but not M. The cube tends to get mis-aligned.
3232. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:07:38 -0000

A couple of weeks ago I was trying to figure out ways to do slices one handed and I came up with a great way for both M and M'. For M, I put my ring finger on the back left line of stickers and my middle finger on the back right line and that creates a gap and I push on the DF sticker. For M', I lay the DF edge at bottom of my fingers and hold onto UBL and UBR with my ring and index finger and I have my thumb on the UR line of stickers and my pinky on the left side for grip. I then pull down on the UB sticker with my middle finger.
3233. Re: Evil Twin on ebay
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:10:39 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...> wrote: > > I know most of you aren't interested in custom puzzles, but it seems > like this one appeals to speedcubers because of it's solved state. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6047440475 > > thanks -mg > Do you have a guide on how to make that? That is amazing. It looks like it is supposed to fall apart when you scramble it.
3234. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:24:59 -0600

I have exactly the same experience as Chris with left and right handedness, as far as cubing is concerned. It's one of the reasons I prefer algs in LUR, instead of RUF(D) like a lot of people. A lot of commutators and COLL cases are very nice reflections of others that way, and things of that nature. I even know a lot of algs from both directions, or even multiple directions (a lot of Sune type cases, some corner swaps, and some miscellaneous orientations). More angles means fewer rotations means less time lost means faster solves. Go for it. -Mike On 3/30/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hey Thom, > > I've also been trying to become more ambidextrous, in all things not > just cubing. I can write slowly left handed with poorer handwriting > but still legible and am almost to the point where I can throw a > baseball left handed with some speed, but it still feels weird to me. > > As for ambi-cubing I think it helps definitely. I've found that I'm > not really ambidextrous, but that my hands are better at different > things. My right hand is good with dextrous hand/wrist movements. > Triggers like [(R U') (R' U)] which are "harder triggers" than > somthing like (R U R') I tend to prefer right handed. More finger > based triggers (LUF type algs) and also finger things like cup > stacking or one-handed cubing I tend to be better at left handed. I > cup stack left handed and I do my T perm (LUF alg) left handed. > I've even tried to get my right handed T perm as fast as my left > handed one and I can't do it, my lefty T is faster by a quarter of a > second consistently. > > As to your question, I think ambi-cubing is a really good idea. > Even if you don't do everything with both hands equally well, try to > find the strengths for each of your hands. I tend to use hand/wrist > movements with my right hand and finger triggers with my left when I > have a choice. > > Just my rambling 0.02 > > Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3235. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:13:06 -0300 (ART)

Some time ago I tought: "I'll do T perm left-handed"...well, my right-handed version is way faster...haha...but this can be useful, surely. But my left hand is a bit egotistic...it wants to do all the moves...haha that, or my right hand is jealous, and don't want to help the left...haha...LOL maybe I just have to practice doing at least the U with the right... Pedro Mike Bennett <mikeisadumbname@...> escreveu: I have exactly the same experience as Chris with left and right handedness, as far as cubing is concerned. It's one of the reasons I prefer algs in LUR, instead of RUF(D) like a lot of people. A lot of commutators and COLL cases are very nice reflections of others that way, and things of that nature. I even know a lot of algs from both directions, or even multiple directions (a lot of Sune type cases, some corner swaps, and some miscellaneous orientations). More angles means fewer rotations means less time lost means faster solves. Go for it. -Mike On 3/30/06, cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hey Thom, > > I've also been trying to become more ambidextrous, in all things not > just cubing. I can write slowly left handed with poorer handwriting > but still legible and am almost to the point where I can throw a > baseball left handed with some speed, but it still feels weird to me. > > As for ambi-cubing I think it helps definitely. I've found that I'm > not really ambidextrous, but that my hands are better at different > things. My right hand is good with dextrous hand/wrist movements. > Triggers like [(R U') (R' U)] which are "harder triggers" than > somthing like (R U R') I tend to prefer right handed. More finger > based triggers (LUF type algs) and also finger things like cup > stacking or one-handed cubing I tend to be better at left handed. I > cup stack left handed and I do my T perm (LUF alg) left handed. > I've even tried to get my right handed T perm as fast as my left > handed one and I can't do it, my lefty T is faster by a quarter of a > second consistently. > > As to your question, I think ambi-cubing is a really good idea. > Even if you don't do everything with both hands equally well, try to > find the strengths for each of your hands. I tend to use hand/wrist > movements with my right hand and finger triggers with my left when I > have a choice. > > Just my rambling 0.02 > > Chris [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3236. Re: Hi guys
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 02:08:41 -0000

I tried this way befor, it was reall effective for me until i had an upside-down one. I just tried the UR and then RUR'U' and it messed up another corner edge pair next to it. Do you do your cross on the bottom or the top? I do mine on the top, but I'm trying to get out of it, I'm starting to do on the left every now and then but I try to put it on the bottom. "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...> wrote: > > For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner > sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, put > the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle layer > edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet the > edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you do > that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you > only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned pair > or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. > On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are oriented > correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then > execute an OLL. From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all days > > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 sec. > > How do you do that? > > > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased from > > my memory now. > > > > -toad > > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that came > > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how long > > you > > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January 28th > > of > > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend at > > least > > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > > after I > > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every > > couple > > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of them > > are so > > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and you > > should > > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and now > > I'm > > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so I > > think > > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i have > > YET to > > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by say a > > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > > someone > > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3237. Leyan Lo 1:28.82 Blindfold World Record
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:54:57 -0800

Does anyone have this on video? It was from the Chattahoochee Spring Competition 2006. Thanks, -Chris
3238. Re: Hi guys
From: "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:59:39 -0000

If you put the piece in the UR position(where the U face meets the R face) and do RUR'U'RUR'U' it should solve the corner-edge pair. Out of curiousity, what do you mean by "an upside-down one"? Oh, and my cross is on the bottom. Mike "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > > I tried this way befor, it was reall effective for me until i had an > upside-down one. > > I just tried the UR and then RUR'U' and it messed up another corner > edge pair next to it. Do you do your cross on the bottom or the top? > > I do mine on the top, but I'm trying to get out of it, I'm starting > to do on the left every now and then but I try to put it on the > bottom. > > "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner > > sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, > put > > the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle > layer > > edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet > the > > edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you > do > > that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you > > only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned > pair > > or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. > > On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are > oriented > > correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then > > execute an OLL. From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. > > > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > > > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all > days > > > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 > sec. > > > How do you do that? > > > > > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased > from > > > my memory now. > > > > > > -toad > > > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that > came > > > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how > long > > > you > > > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January > 28th > > > of > > > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend > at > > > least > > > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > > > after I > > > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every > > > couple > > > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of > them > > > are so > > > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and > you > > > should > > > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and > now > > > I'm > > > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so > I > > > think > > > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i > have > > > YET to > > > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by > say a > > > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > > > someone > > > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3239. Re: Leyan Lo 1:28.82 Blindfold World Record
From: "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:01:20 -0000

Right here: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~leyanlo/LeyanLo3x3x3bldrecordCHS.wmv Mike "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > Does anyone have this on video? It was from the Chattahoochee Spring > Competition 2006. > > Thanks, > > -Chris >
3240. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Leyan Lo 1:28.82 Blindfold World Record
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:04:50 -0800

I'm glad I asked :) Thanks -Chris On 3/30/06, Mike Stewart <cocoa32301@yahoo.com> wrote: > Right here: > http://www.its.caltech.edu/~leyanlo/LeyanLo3x3x3bldrecordCHS.wmv > > Mike > > "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > > > Does anyone have this on video? It was from the Chattahoochee Spring > > Competition 2006. > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3241. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:43:23 +0200

Rune, well, being a cellist, I think I know quite well what fingers can or can't do at certain ages. Rostropovitch kinda stopped playing, he still conducts though, but he can't play anymore (I heard him the other day, it wasn't that nice, let's say he had an easy and uncontrolled vibrato...). But he's almost 80 and not in his best shape. And again, that's more a physical constraint than just an age issue. He can't play anymore, well, then he just doesn't play, that's all. A runner with no legs, no matter what age, wouldn't run. Jacqueline Du Pré died at age 42, she was probably able to play until she was 30 or so. Then she quit. You know, if I feel I can't do a particular passage at a certain pace, I either go slower or practice some more. Let me reformulate my example. Give all people in both pools not the same amount of time, but the very amount they think they need to get good. If someone is a quick learner, he/she will need less time, and if someone is a slow learner, he/she will need more time. You'll get a few very good people in each pool, and I must insist on the fact everyone has about the same motivation and dedication in learning, I believe you'll get good people of about the same level in both pools. Gilles, your argument about not being able to solve a cube blindfolded isn't right. I mean, have you (and I mean you personally) ever tried Stefan's method at least a bit seriously? So how many numbers are you using on a daily basis? credit card, that's 4 digits, pin code of your cell phone, 4 again, your phone number, that's 10, maybe your entrance code (yeah I know you don't have one...), that would be around 4, and a few passwords. That's way over 24 numbers for permutations, and for orientation, photographic memory would do. Then you just go through these numbers and solve them one at a time. Where's the difficulty? Of course, I'm not good at it, I'm slow, I don't succeed every time, but I *can* solve *a* cube blindfolded. In other words, I know how to, I've already solved a cube blindfolded. It just takes some motivation, and again, practice. As for music, I get that feeling of "I'm sorry, but I heard that guy play this concerto, and I'm positive I can't play it" every time I open a new music. Then I get myself to work, start slowly, it sounds bad, then after a while it eventually gets better, I get it up to tempo, I feel safer, I start playing music and not just notes. When I teach musicians how to cube, I often like to compare cubing to sightreading. Sight reading is playing through a piece for the first time, for those who aren't into music. You don't know what's coming next, but you set a pace at the beginning, and don't want to stop, miss something, fail a spot, whatnot. And it seems weird, but sight reading is actually a full-time job in itself. You can learn how to sight read, you can get better at it, of course with being a better player but not only, with practicing sight reading. I once heard a guy accompanying a singer on the piano who was rehearsing his part on some random Wagner opera, you know, one of these huge pieces that last forever with some guy in the middle who's singing while he's taking about 35minutes to die. Anyway. The pianist came in, said "ok, what are we going to play today", the singer tells him, "ah, Parsifal, ok, let's see". The pianist opens the piano, takes the orchestra score and opens it, and starts reducing the 40 parts or so (a typical Wagner orchestra), while playing a minor third lower because it was too high for the singer otherwise, and sings along the bass part. That guy was no particular genius, it just took him a while to learn. It's all a matter of dedication, really, and you can probably start off by being a bit more predisposed to a certain type of work, but that's all. I just doubt all the middle aged people here take as much time to practice their cubing skills as the rest of the kids. Back in High School, I used to cube around 3 or 4 hours a day, counting the bus rides and the solves under the table during the philosophy lesson. I can't afford to lose that much time now, I'm already having enough trouble with fitting my girlfriend into my schedule. Gilles, you're fast, that's a fact, but honestly (I don't know the answer to that question, I could be surprised, but I doubt it), how much have you been practicing, lately? As a musician, I practice around 6h/day. Or at least that's the plan, but I try not to fall under 4h. If I did only one hour each day, I don't even know where I would be now. How many of you above 30 practice more than 2 or 3 hours a day? On a side note, I had a nice concert tonight. We played in the Gaveau Hall in Paris, wonderful sound, Schubert's "Unfinished" symphony (who's the idiot who started calling it unfinished?) and Beethoven's 5th piano concerto. Since we recorded that exact same program last month, we might get a CD shortly, if anyone is interested, email me. Oh and pff, I don't care about it, why did I reply, after all? Does it really matter to you? I mean, if it's a physical issue, then there's nothing we can do about, perhaps having a paralympics sort of event, if you feel you're slow, practice more, if you know that you're slow and don't care, where's the problem, and if you think you're fast, good for you. It's that simple. I think I'll stop replying, considering the time it takes me. I have to wake up in 5h17mins, I think I better fall asleep before. F. Rune Wesström a écrit : > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@free.fr> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > re: YOUNGEST) > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > people in > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > people > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > each of > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > > pool > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > Yes I do. > > Definitely! > > > > > > Gilles. > > > It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change > the above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are > in the ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but > sprinters, Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the > same. The muscles in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the > legs, like the nerves (and the brain) behind. They are all subject of > aging (which begins at birth). The difference is that the > deterioration in the fingers goes so slow that we notice it relatively > late. > Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > exceptional. > R > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3242. Re: Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:53:52 -0000

Hey Ryan, Well the reason I said two puzzles is more related to the 4x4x4 supercube than the regular cube (though the regular one in a weird way is a supercube). Even though you can't see it, to change the parity of the corners you absolutely *must* change the parity of the centers too. This can't be noticed on a regular 4x4x4 but it still happens. So the least destructive effect you can do is to swap two corners and two center pieces. Even though this isn't noticable you still had to do it, that's why I grouped corners and edges together. Also, left/right distinction for the edges is just an arbitrary definition, there really is no difference between them at all, they are all edges in the same orbital. So I guess to allow the fact that you can't actually "see" the odd permutation you perform on the centers then yes it would be: 1) corners 2) edges 3) centers But I like it much better to view it as a physical object where all 24 centers are actually distinct (they really are since they occupy different points in space), but we don't consider them to be since the sticker colors are the same. This message is probably a little too nit-picky, but I just wanted to say how I view the 4x4 and why it is my favorite lol. I view it as (corners + edges) tied together since the parity of one *has* to be the same as the parity of the other, and the edge orbit which does it's own thing and doesn't listen to anybody else lol. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 06:32:43AM -0000, cmhardw wrote: > > 4x4x4 is by far my favorite cube. > --- 8< --- > > It's like having two different puzzles glued together where a turn on > > one puzzle will affect pieces in the other one, > > I think it is 4 puzzles glued together: > > 1. Corners > 2. Left edges > 3. Right edges > 4. Centres
3243. Santa Ana Tournament?
From: "darereck" <darereck@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:12:46 -0000

I just noticed there was a tournament for Santa Ana on April 7. But now its not on the speedcubing.com website. Was it cancelled?
3244. Re: [Speed cubing group] Santa Ana Tournament?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:19:26 -0800

We're going to re-announce it as an unofficial competition. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:12 PM, darereck wrote: > I just noticed there was a tournament for Santa Ana on April 7. But > now its not on the speedcubing.com website. Was it cancelled? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3245. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:30:39 -0000

I think I've read this post before... Yahoo has gone yahoo?! Yesterday, a message I wrote got lost. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet <frsechet@...> wrote: > > Rune, > well, being a cellist, I think I know quite well what fingers can or > can't do at certain ages. Rostropovitch kinda stopped playing, he still > conducts though, but he can't play anymore (I heard him the other day, > it wasn't that nice, let's say he had an easy and uncontrolled > vibrato...). But he's almost 80 and not in his best shape. And again, > that's more a physical constraint than just an age issue. He can't play > anymore, well, then he just doesn't play, that's all. A runner with no > legs, no matter what age, wouldn't run. Jacqueline Du Pré died at age > 42, she was probably able to play until she was 30 or so. Then she quit. > You know, if I feel I can't do a particular passage at a certain pace, I > either go slower or practice some more. Let me reformulate my example. > Give all people in both pools not the same amount of time, but the very > amount they think they need to get good. If someone is a quick learner, > he/she will need less time, and if someone is a slow learner, he/she > will need more time. You'll get a few very good people in each pool, and > I must insist on the fact everyone has about the same motivation and > dedication in learning, I believe you'll get good people of about the > same level in both pools. > Gilles, your argument about not being able to solve a cube blindfolded > isn't right. I mean, have you (and I mean you personally) ever tried > Stefan's method at least a bit seriously? So how many numbers are you > using on a daily basis? credit card, that's 4 digits, pin code of your > cell phone, 4 again, your phone number, that's 10, maybe your entrance > code (yeah I know you don't have one...), that would be around 4, and a > few passwords. That's way over 24 numbers for permutations, and for > orientation, photographic memory would do. Then you just go through > these numbers and solve them one at a time. Where's the difficulty? Of > course, I'm not good at it, I'm slow, I don't succeed every time, but I > *can* solve *a* cube blindfolded. In other words, I know how to, I've > already solved a cube blindfolded. It just takes some motivation, and > again, practice. > As for music, I get that feeling of "I'm sorry, but I heard that guy > play this concerto, and I'm positive I can't play it" every time I open > a new music. Then I get myself to work, start slowly, it sounds bad, > then after a while it eventually gets better, I get it up to tempo, I > feel safer, I start playing music and not just notes. When I teach > musicians how to cube, I often like to compare cubing to sightreading. > Sight reading is playing through a piece for the first time, for those > who aren't into music. You don't know what's coming next, but you set a > pace at the beginning, and don't want to stop, miss something, fail a > spot, whatnot. And it seems weird, but sight reading is actually a > full-time job in itself. You can learn how to sight read, you can get > better at it, of course with being a better player but not only, with > practicing sight reading. I once heard a guy accompanying a singer on > the piano who was rehearsing his part on some random Wagner opera, you > know, one of these huge pieces that last forever with some guy in the > middle who's singing while he's taking about 35minutes to die. Anyway. > The pianist came in, said "ok, what are we going to play today", the > singer tells him, "ah, Parsifal, ok, let's see". The pianist opens the > piano, takes the orchestra score and opens it, and starts reducing the > 40 parts or so (a typical Wagner orchestra), while playing a minor third > lower because it was too high for the singer otherwise, and sings along > the bass part. That guy was no particular genius, it just took him a > while to learn. It's all a matter of dedication, really, and you can > probably start off by being a bit more predisposed to a certain type of > work, but that's all. > I just doubt all the middle aged people here take as much time to > practice their cubing skills as the rest of the kids. Back in High > School, I used to cube around 3 or 4 hours a day, counting the bus rides > and the solves under the table during the philosophy lesson. I can't > afford to lose that much time now, I'm already having enough trouble > with fitting my girlfriend into my schedule. Gilles, you're fast, that's > a fact, but honestly (I don't know the answer to that question, I could > be surprised, but I doubt it), how much have you been practicing, lately? > As a musician, I practice around 6h/day. Or at least that's the plan, > but I try not to fall under 4h. If I did only one hour each day, I don't > even know where I would be now. How many of you above 30 practice more > than 2 or 3 hours a day? > On a side note, I had a nice concert tonight. We played in the Gaveau > Hall in Paris, wonderful sound, Schubert's "Unfinished" symphony (who's > the idiot who started calling it unfinished?) and Beethoven's 5th piano > concerto. Since we recorded that exact same program last month, we might > get a CD shortly, if anyone is interested, email me. > Oh and pff, I don't care about it, why did I reply, after all? Does it > really matter to you? I mean, if it's a physical issue, then there's > nothing we can do about, perhaps having a paralympics sort of event, if > you feel you're slow, practice more, if you know that you're slow and > don't care, where's the problem, and if you think you're fast, good for > you. It's that simple. > I think I'll stop replying, considering the time it takes me. I have to > wake up in 5h17mins, I think I better fall asleep before. > F. > > > Rune Wesström a écrit : > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > > re: YOUNGEST) > > > > > > > > > > Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > > > practice. You dare to say sub-15? > > > > > > It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > > > 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > > > I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > > > > > > My opinion differs. > > > > > > Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > > > easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > > > suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > > > > > > > > > > Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > > > > physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > > > people in > > > > good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > > > people > > > > having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > > > each of > > > > these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > > > > back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > > > pool > > > > A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > > > > > > Yes I do. > > > Definitely! > > > > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change > > the above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are > > in the ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but > > sprinters, Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the > > same. The muscles in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the > > legs, like the nerves (and the brain) behind. They are all subject of > > aging (which begins at birth). The difference is that the > > deterioration in the fingers goes so slow that we notice it relatively > > late. > > Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > > lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > > exceptional. > > R > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3246. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:43:35 +0200

Better have a look at http://tinyurl.com/k8ky3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video > Cubers, > > Here's a video of Anssi's 3x3x3 average world record. > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1645563721887617159 > > > /Anders > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3247. Re: Ambidexterity
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:59:15 -0000

Hi Thom, I use my left hand a lot to help my right hand a litte. It can work very fast if both of my hand cooperate.. I have noticed that both of my hands are dexterous, only they can do different types of moves. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > I've been trying to become ambidextrous for a while now, and I'm > thinking of starting to apply it to cubing, even if it's only handy so > you don't have to change your hand positions. > > I've learnt the T-perm with the left hand and am trying fingertricks > to build up skills. > > The thing is, methods in general are one-handed. You do most of the > moves with one hand and most tricks. Maybe if you get good at both > hands you can apply tricks and maybe do things simultaneously? > > Thing is, when you get to a senario where you're just using U and M, > you use both hands a lot. Mostly for U, as M is a bit weird about > being used :P > > So do you think there are any advanges to this? I can't think of > anything particularly good, but maybe someone knows something. Less U > rotations during PLL/OLL maybe? > > I can imagine it'd help you mirrors algs more easily though :) > > ~Thom >
3248. Re: [Speed cubing group] One-handed slice moves?
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:46:01 -0000

1 inner slice move is not the difficulty, the problem comes as always from full sequences. For example, who can set the best time for MU2M'UM2UM'U'MU'MU2M'U ? (of course, feel free to use RE instead of MU, or face moves) Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > I do one handed slice moves, and I think it's pretty efficient. > > Assume the right hand. You put your thumb on the F sticker of the UF > edge, and the middle finger on the opposite sticker on UB. Then > simultaneously move the L and R layer using the index and ring > fingers. That's it! > > It's a pretty good grip to keep doing other moves with too. > > /Lars > > On Mar 29, 2006, at 14:00, thomkirjava wrote: > > > Is this even possable to do fast? I find myself doing rR' way too > > much :S > > > > i've developed a method where i use my thumb and hold teh cube with > > the other fingers, and rotate around z depending on what direction teh > > move is going in, but it's slow and inefficient. Yet, this is the > > fastest way I can think of doing it. > > > > Thanks > > > > ~Thom >
3249. The funniest WCA regulation
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:59:17 +1100

(4e) A competitor can choose to insert orientations into the beginning of the scrambling sequence that he/she hasn't seen beforehand. Ryan
3250. Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 11:49:03 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > A competitor can choose to insert orientations into the beginning of the > scrambling sequence that he/she hasn't seen beforehand. Sounds weird. What does it mean? Mike
3251. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:03:24 +1100

On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:49:03AM -0000, mike_go_uk wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> > wrote: > > A competitor can choose to insert orientations into the beginning of > > the scrambling sequence that he/she hasn't seen beforehand. > > Sounds weird. What does it mean? Suppose you are at a competition. Your cube will be scrambled by the sequence ?????????????????? which is unknown to you. This regulation gives you the option to ask for ?????????????????? to be changed to x'yz?????????????????? if, say, you are unhappy with ????????????????. EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ??????????????? is! Ryan
3252. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:20:18 +0200

Hrm. Sounds weird, I've never been to a competition. Is the cube orientation before the scramble always the same? If the scramble is always performed with say white in U and green in R, maybe some competitor would like say a z' in the beginning because he/she thinks that it might increase the chances of the cube being handed to him/her in a certain orientation, and that in turn would benefit his/her inspection in some way. Note that his is a VERY far fetched stab at explaining a rule that does not make sense to me ;) Aron On 3/31/06, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:49:03AM -0000, mike_go_uk wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> > > wrote: > > > A competitor can choose to insert orientations into the beginning of > > > the scrambling sequence that he/she hasn't seen beforehand. > > > > Sounds weird. What does it mean? > > Suppose you are at a competition. Your cube will be scrambled by the > sequence ?????????????????? which is unknown to you. This regulation > gives you the option to ask for ?????????????????? to be changed to > x'yz?????????????????? if, say, you are unhappy with ????????????????. > > EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ??????????????? is! > > Ryan > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3253. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:03:49 -0600

I forgot another good piece of advice: Try one handed cubing with both hands. It helps a ton. -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3254. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:07:17 +0200

Doesn´t it mean that he has the right to choose e.g. red up or...? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Heise" <ryan@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:49:03AM -0000, mike_go_uk wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> > > wrote: > > > A competitor can choose to insert orientations into the beginning of > > > the scrambling sequence that he/she hasn't seen beforehand. > > > > Sounds weird. What does it mean? > > Suppose you are at a competition. Your cube will be scrambled by the > sequence ?????????????????? which is unknown to you. This regulation > gives you the option to ask for ?????????????????? to be changed to > x'yz?????????????????? if, say, you are unhappy with ????????????????. > > EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ??????????????? is! > > Ryan > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3255. [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:25:30 -0000

It makes sense to me. I believe it's designed to ensure fairness, since not everyone starts with a white cross. If you use Japanese color scheme, and start with a blue cross, you might choose (x2) +scramble. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> wrote: > > Hrm. Sounds weird, I've never been to a competition. Is the cube > orientation before the scramble always the same? If the scramble is > always performed with say white in U and green in R, maybe some > competitor would like say a z' in the beginning because he/she thinks > that it might increase the chances of the cube being handed to him/her > in a certain orientation, and that in turn would benefit his/her > inspection in some way. Note that his is a VERY far fetched stab at > explaining a rule that does not make sense to me ;) > > Aron > > On 3/31/06, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 11:49:03AM -0000, mike_go_uk wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@> > > > wrote: > > > > A competitor can choose to insert orientations into the beginning of > > > > the scrambling sequence that he/she hasn't seen beforehand. > > > > > > Sounds weird. What does it mean? > > > > Suppose you are at a competition. Your cube will be scrambled by the > > sequence ?????????????????? which is unknown to you. This regulation > > gives you the option to ask for ?????????????????? to be changed to > > x'yz?????????????????? if, say, you are unhappy with ????????????????. > > > > EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT ??????????????? is! > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3256. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:33:53 -0000

Very cool. Did you get to meet Rubik? Which photos are from the actual Rubik Studio? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I finally finished my page about the Hungarian Championships that Dan, > Jasmine and I visited a few months ago: > > http://stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/events/budapest2005/ > > Includes report and pictures as well as links, some to pages with nice > videos. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3257. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "blindfoldcubist" <jmittan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:50:23 -0000

Actually musicians (especially pianists) do age, and it does show in their playing. There are certain pieces for the piano that do stress the muscles to their limit, such as most of the Etudes by Liszt, Ravel's "Gaspard de la nuit", and Rachmaninoff's Third Piano Concerto. The performer becomes totally out of breath from the exertion. When you compare performances of these pieces, you will find that younger performers are able to play faster and more accurately. Older performers play a bit slower and with more "emotional maturity". In speedcubing, faster is all that matters. I would love to say that my cubing has gained in emotional maturity over the 25 years that I have been cubing, but I frankly don't have a clue what "cubing with emotional maturity" could possibly mean. I suspect that the idea of divisions based on age will appeal to you once you are a bit older. Maybe some day we will have enough data from competitions to do a study to determine some statistical trends that relate age to fastest times in competition. It's true that we don't have that many years of data from competitions, but then again, humanity hasn't been around long enough to see a star go through its entire lifecycle, and yet astronomers know plenty about the lifecyle of stars. Might it be possible to use a similar process to determine the lifecycle of a typical cubist? Is Leyan likely to continue to get faster? Is Rune slowing down? Does anyone know of a young astrophysicist who might be willing to tackle this project? (Just don't stop organizing competitions if you decide to do this.) Jim Mittan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > How do you explain musicians? The muscles in the fingers do age, but > the muscles aren't being pushed to their physical limits. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Mar 29, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> > > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > > re: YOUNGEST) > > > > > >> > >> Many fast cubers seem to consider that sub-20 is just a matter of > >> practice. You dare to say sub-15? > >> > >> It reminds me Stefan's page claiming that everyone can memorize a > >> 3x3x3 and solve a cube blindfolded (it looks so difficult to me, when > >> I read this page I feel insulted and sad :-) ). > >> > >> My opinion differs. > >> > >> Some (or a majority of) people may be talented and think things are > >> easy to achieve, but others may have much more problems, without > >> suffering from a mental disease or global dexterity problem! > >> > >> > >>> Now, say you start of with 1000 kids in good > >>> physical shape (pool A) aged between 10 and 20 and 1000 random > >> people in > >>> good physical shape (pool B) between 30 and 60, all of these 2000 > >> people > >>> having the same motivation and same interest in cubing, now give > >> each of > >>> these guys/girls a good cube and the same amount of free time, come > >>> back, say, one year later, do you really think the good people from > >> pool > >>> A will be that much better than the good people from pool B? > >> > >> Yes I do. > >> Definitely! > >> > >> > >> Gilles. > >> > > It´s always pleasant to find someone to agree with. If we now change > > the above conditions a little so that the participants in pool A are > > in the ages 20-30 and we are no longer talking about cubers but > > sprinters, Francois would say: "Oh, it´s not the same!" It *is* the > > same. The muscles in the fingers are fundamentally the same as in the > > legs, like the nerves (and the brain) behind. They are all subject of > > aging (which begins at birth). The difference is that the > > deterioration in the fingers goes so slow that we notice it relatively > > late. > > Just a remark.Gilles and I may be the only ones that solve the cube in > > lesser moves than our ages respectively show, but His method must be > > exceptional. > > R > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3258. [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:59:00 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > It makes sense to me. I believe it's designed to ensure fairness, > since not everyone starts with a white cross. If you use Japanese > color scheme, and start with a blue cross, you might choose (x2) > +scramble. > > Chris Fairness can't be the point. In your example, the blue-crosser tries to get the "same" scramble as the white-crossers. WHY? Does he think otherwise he'll get a "harder scramble"? Crap, it could just as well turn out to be easier. And there's no way to know. The only explanation that makes sense to me is friends who use the same method but with different colors who want to get the "same" scramble for personal rivalry comparison.
3259. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:05:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Very cool. Did you get to meet Rubik? Which photos are from the > actual Rubik Studio? > > Chris No, he wasn't there. But maybe we breathed the same air he had breathed (maybe I should've taken some with me in some jam glass and sold it on Ebay?). The Russian art thing and the two mastermagic pictures are from the Studio. I have some more but we were asked not to make them public, I only show these three because I specifically asked for permission and got an ok.
3260. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:06:46 -0500

How about inspection time? If you're used to blue being on top, could inspection time be wasted reorienting the cube? This is probably negligible, but it's the only other valid reason I can think of. It does seem like whether orientation is done before or after the scramble is completely arbitrary. Kind of like "burning" a card in poker when the deck is already randomly shuffled. Silly superstitions. Maybe there should be a regulation for how many lucky charms cubers are allowed to have on the table during their solve. :-) On 3/31/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > It makes sense to me. I believe it's designed to ensure fairness, > > since not everyone starts with a white cross. If you use Japanese > > color scheme, and start with a blue cross, you might choose (x2) > > +scramble. > > > > Chris > > Fairness can't be the point. In your example, the blue-crosser tries > to get the "same" scramble as the white-crossers. WHY? Does he think > otherwise he'll get a "harder scramble"? Crap, it could just as well > turn out to be easier. And there's no way to know. > > The only explanation that makes sense to me is friends who use the > same method but with different colors who want to get the "same" > scramble for personal rivalry comparison. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3261. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:11:14 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > Yesterday, a message I wrote got lost. I bet it'll turn up the next 48 hours. Sometimes it just does that. I posted about an update of my Budapest page yesterday which hasn't appeared yet but I'm expecting it to do so soon...
3262. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:43:15 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "blindfoldcubist" <jmittan@....com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) Does anyone know of a young astrophysicist who might be willing to tackle this project? Isn´t Tyson the right man for that?
3263. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:20:20 +0200

On 3/31/06, Matt Moberly <mmoberly@...> wrote: > How about inspection time? If you're used to blue being on top, could > inspection time be wasted reorienting the cube? This is probably > negligible, but it's the only other valid reason I can think of. That was what I was thinking, my post above was pretty unclear now that I read it :) But I mean, is there really any guarantees that the cube will be handed to you with blue in U, just because the scramble started out with blue in U? Or is that also a regulation? "The cube shall be placed before the contestant in the orientation used during scrambling."?.. it sounds very far fetched.. If this was really the reason for the regulation, why not just "The contestant may choose the initial cube orientation after scrambling."? :) Aron > It does seem like whether orientation is done before or after the scramble > is completely arbitrary. Kind of like "burning" a card in poker when the > deck is already randomly shuffled. Silly superstitions. Maybe there should > be a regulation for how many lucky charms cubers are allowed to have on the > table during their solve. :-) > > On 3/31/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > > > <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > > > It makes sense to me. I believe it's designed to ensure fairness, > > > since not everyone starts with a white cross. If you use Japanese > > > color scheme, and start with a blue cross, you might choose (x2) > > > +scramble. > > > > > > Chris > > > > Fairness can't be the point. In your example, the blue-crosser tries > > to get the "same" scramble as the white-crossers. WHY? Does he think > > otherwise he'll get a "harder scramble"? Crap, it could just as well > > turn out to be easier. And there's no way to know. > > > > The only explanation that makes sense to me is friends who use the > > same method but with different colors who want to get the "same" > > scramble for personal rivalry comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3264. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:57:13 +0200

Why discuss? Somebody must have written it. May he explain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: The funniest WCA regulation > On 3/31/06, Matt Moberly <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > How about inspection time? If you're used to blue being on top, could > > inspection time be wasted reorienting the cube? This is probably > > negligible, but it's the only other valid reason I can think of. > > That was what I was thinking, my post above was pretty unclear now > that I read it :) But I mean, is there really any guarantees that the > cube will be handed to you with blue in U, just because the scramble > started out with blue in U? Or is that also a regulation? "The cube > shall be placed before the contestant in the orientation used during > scrambling."?.. it sounds very far fetched.. If this was really the > reason for the regulation, why not just "The contestant may choose the > initial cube orientation after scrambling."? > > :) > > Aron > > > It does seem like whether orientation is done before or after the scramble > > is completely arbitrary. Kind of like "burning" a card in poker when the > > deck is already randomly shuffled. Silly superstitions. Maybe there should > > be a regulation for how many lucky charms cubers are allowed to have on the > > table during their solve. :-) > > > > On 3/31/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > > > > > <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > It makes sense to me. I believe it's designed to ensure fairness, > > > > since not everyone starts with a white cross. If you use Japanese > > > > color scheme, and start with a blue cross, you might choose (x2) > > > > +scramble. > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > Fairness can't be the point. In your example, the blue-crosser tries > > > to get the "same" scramble as the white-crossers. WHY? Does he think > > > otherwise he'll get a "harder scramble"? Crap, it could just as well > > > turn out to be easier. And there's no way to know. > > > > > > The only explanation that makes sense to me is friends who use the > > > same method but with different colors who want to get the "same" > > > scramble for personal rivalry comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > > > on the web. > > > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3265. [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:11:15 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...> wrote: > > I forgot another good piece of advice: > > Try one handed cubing with both hands. It helps a ton. > > -Mike > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > I had to read that twice before I got it :P yeah, of course I use my left hand to do some algs, and it's better at some things than my right hand. But I'm after true ambidexterity, where I can do any move with either hand. I'm happy for a compromise, though. This isn't really related to cubing too much, it's mroe of a life goal, but i wondered if it'd help. I do do one-handed with my 'weak' hand though. On another note, I did my maths lesson with my left hand again today :D ~Thom
3266. Re: Ambidexterity
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:23:29 -0000

Interesting, since I do the same. I'm left-handed, yet I feel more comfortable on my right hand. I've never seen any one-hand cubers use their right hands... and I don't think there are that many lefties, are there? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" > <mikeisadumbname@> wrote: > > > > I forgot another good piece of advice: > > > > Try one handed cubing with both hands. It helps a ton. > > > > -Mike > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > I had to read that twice before I got it :P > > yeah, of course I use my left hand to do some algs, and it's better at > some things than my right hand. But I'm after true ambidexterity, > where I can do any move with either hand. I'm happy for a compromise, > though. > > This isn't really related to cubing too much, it's mroe of a life > goal, but i wondered if it'd help. > > I do do one-handed with my 'weak' hand though. > > On another note, I did my maths lesson with my left hand again today :D > > ~Thom >
3267. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:52:20 -0000

That is so cool. You got to visit the Rubik Studio! I always wondered what that place looked like. Which photo(s) in particular are from there? And did you get to meet Rubik himself? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I finally finished my page about the Hungarian Championships that Dan, > Jasmine and I visited a few months ago: > > http://stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/events/budapest2005/ > > Includes report and pictures as well as links, some to pages with nice > videos. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3268. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:43:50 -0000

That is so cool. Did you get to meet Rubik himself? Which photos are from the actual Rubik Studio? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I finally finished my page about the Hungarian Championships that Dan, > Jasmine and I visited a few months ago: > > http://stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/events/budapest2005/ > > Includes report and pictures as well as links, some to pages with nice > videos. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3269. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:49:55 -0000

All these posts are coming through a day late. Sorry for the multiple posts, but this forum is screwed up :( Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > That is so cool. Did you get to meet Rubik himself? Which photos are > from the actual Rubik Studio? > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > I finally finished my page about the Hungarian Championships that > Dan, > > Jasmine and I visited a few months ago: > > > > http://stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/events/budapest2005/ > > > > Includes report and pictures as well as links, some to pages with > nice > > videos. > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
3270. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:52:22 -0000

Very mysterious! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > Studio. I have some more but we were asked not to make them public,
3271. BATG2 In the Netherlands
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:24:40 -0000

Hey guys, Looks like the 2nd season of Beauty and the Geek 2 will be broadcasted here in Holland... The first episode is next monday. I am gonna watch it for sure :). - Joël.
3272. Me on TV...
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:35:18 -0000

Hey all, The show I taped a LONG time ago...probably mid-December...will be airing on April 6, at 7:00 PM on CBC on a show called "On the Road Again." There is a little bit of information on: http://www.cbc.ca/ontheroadagain And I will most likely be getting a copy of the episode on DVD...just thought I'd let anyone who might wanna watch it know... Craig
3273. Re: Hungarian Championships 2005 - report, pictures, links
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:09:49 -0000

Update: Added a link to the website of Olivér Nagy, Hungarian competitor. He has lots of photos, newspaper scans and videos: http://www.freeweb.hu/rubikkocka/versenykepek.html Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I finally finished my page about the Hungarian Championships that Dan, > Jasmine and I visited a few months ago: > > http://stefan-pochmann.de/spocc/events/budapest2005/ > > Includes report and pictures as well as links, some to pages with nice > videos. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3274. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:32:43 -0600

I use either hand depending on which feels better. I generally switch off every other. They're pretty close in speed. I did my three solves in Orlando with my left, right, and right again. -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3275. commutator question
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 03:27:58 -0000

Thanks to Joel's website, I have a basic, rudimentary idea of commutators. My question is how does one find useful algs on a cube using this principle? Is it trial and error or is there a strategy? I guess for instance, does one sit down with a cube and start doing moves and then do restorative moves to see what cubies are moved? Thanks. Roger Wood
3276. (off topic) I rediscovered an old hobby of mine
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 06:15:38 -0000

Hey everyone, this is really, really off topic, but as eclectic as our group is I figured I'd have a chance of meeting someone else here who might do this too. I used to really practice blowgun shooting when I was younger, but stopped when I was about 13. Well, after trying to go through some boxes and clean up I finally found my old blowgun, some darts, and my target! I decided to take a bunch of shots and determine my accuracy. Here is what I did: The blowgun I use is a 40 caliber Vyper with a 31in (78.74cm) barrel and looks a lot like this http://tinyurl.com/rg87q only it shoots 4.25in (10.80cm) metal darts instead of paintballs. My target is 11.44in (29.06cm) across and split up into 5 areas. It looks like the one on this page http://tinyurl.com/kzsd5 only it doesn't have the outermost ring as the one on that website, mine is 1 ring smaller. Bullseye measures 2.00in (5.08cm) diameter within the first ring including the bullseye has a diameter of 4.38in (11.13cm) within the second ring up to bullseye has a diameter 6.63in (16.84cm) within the third ring up to bullseye has a diameter 9.13in (23.19cm) and the whole target again has diameter 11.44in (29.06cm) When shooting at it I placed it at one end of my house and I shot from the furthest end away I could get to which measured out to 30 feet 2 inches almost exactly or 9.19 meters. This distance is from the target itself to the end of the barrel on the blowgun from where I was shooting. Here were my stats with this setup. Overall tonight I took 301 shots at the target from that distance and hit the various areas the following number of times: bullseye: 41 hits 1st ring only: 105 hits 2nd ring only: 87 hits 3rd ring only: 52 hits 4th ring only: 10 hits missed the target completely: 4 shots So I got the bullseye (3.14in^2 or 20.26cm^2) with 13.6% accuracy 1st ring + bullseye (15.08in^2 or 97.29cm^2) with 48.5% accuracy bulls + 1st ring + 2nd ring (34.52in^2 or 222.71cm^2) with 77.4% accuracy bulls + 1st + 2nd + 3rd (65.47in^2 or 422.39cm^2) with 94.7% accuracy whole target (102.79in^2 or 663.16cm^2) with 98.7% accuracy I don't know what the standard is for blowgun shooting but I feel like this must be not bad at least. I'm rusty from when I used to practice a lot, but I feel like with practice I could improve on this. I think the 98.7% accuracy on hitting a target roughly 11.5in (29.06cm) diameter from 30 feet away must be pretty good, and I'm happy with the 13.6% accuracy on the bullseye which is only 2in (5.08cm) diameter from the same distance. Does anyone else practice target shooting with blowguns here? Are these numbers good or am I a rookie compared to the real pros? Just wanted to ask, I was happy with the results but I guess the pros who do this all the time must be insanely good, like any sport that people do a lot. Anyway I was very happy to rediscover an old hobby and wanted to see if anyone else does this. Chris
3277. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 09:10:43 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Ambidexterity > Interesting, since I do the same. I'm left-handed, yet I feel more > comfortable on my right hand. I've never seen any one-hand cubers > use their right hands... and I don't think there are that many > lefties, are there? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Bennett" > > <mikeisadumbname@> wrote: > > > > > > I forgot another good piece of advice: > > > > > > Try one handed cubing with both hands. It helps a ton. And here another piece of advice: ......To be able to use both hands equally well, practice is the key. During the day, use your left hand more (if you're right-handed) by consciously switching when you're about ready to do something -- pouring a glass of milk, bouncing a ball, flipping and picking up coins, hammering a nail, cutting and buttering bread, stirring your coffee, swirling water in a glass, twisting off bottle caps, etc. Wherever you would use your one hand, use the other instead -- putting a key in the door, combing your hair, brushing your teeth, shaving, grasping objects, etc. When putting on your clothes, put your other hand or foot into the garment first. Thread your belt around your waist in the opposite direction. Put your watch on your other hand. Use your other hand in sports -- hitting a baseball or a tennis ball, throwing a football, shooting a basketball, etc. Practice stirring 2 cups of tea simultaneously, swirling 2 half filled glasses of water clockwise and counterclockwise, and bouncing two balls at the same time. Get used to the kinesthetic feeling of using the muscles of both your hands and arms together. Catch 2 balls thrown to you at the same time. Throw 2 paper wads at the same time into the same paper basket -- one underhand and the other overhand. Throw 2 darts simultaneously at a dart board with both hands. Write with both hands at the same time. Draw a butterfly, a vase or a geometric figure using both hands simultaneously, but keep practicing these exercises.
3278. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:51:11 -0800

I think Tyson is busy trying to find a date for his Friday nights. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:43 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "blindfoldcubist" <jmittan@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > re: YOUNGEST) > > > > Does anyone know of a young > astrophysicist who might be willing to tackle this project? > > > Isn´t Tyson the right man for that? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3279. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST)
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 11:13:59 +0200

For the real scientist the Science must stand above all! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was re: YOUNGEST) I think Tyson is busy trying to find a date for his Friday nights. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:43 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "blindfoldcubist" <jmittan@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 4:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition and Division Models (was > re: YOUNGEST) > > > > Does anyone know of a young > astrophysicist who might be willing to tackle this project? > > > Isn´t Tyson the right man for that? > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
3280. Re: commutator question
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:00:00 -0000

Hello Roger, Well, you see, the formula XyX^-1y^-1, X actually has a specific function. For example, the three edge cycle: X: MSDS'D2M' y: U Let's say the commuter applies to the three edges ABC. A being at UF, B being at UR, C at UB. "X" swaps A and B, leaving the top layer untouched, and the rest of it in whatever mess it is. Then, "y" is applied, the top layer is moved, which is allowed, since it's not any of the part messed up, and the process is reversed, fixing everything that was messed up. So few cubies were moved in the entire process. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Thanks to Joel's website, I have a basic, rudimentary idea of > commutators. > > My question is how does one find useful algs on a cube using this > principle? Is it trial and error or is there a strategy? > > I guess for instance, does one sit down with a cube and start doing > moves and then do restorative moves to see what cubies are moved? > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood >
3281. Re: [Speed cubing group] BATG2 In the Netherlands
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 13:27:43 +0200

Are they going to translate it in dutch ? (so that we can hear Tyson "speak" dutch ?) :D Gilles. 2006/3/31, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>: > Hey guys, > > Looks like the 2nd season of Beauty and the Geek 2 will be broadcasted > here in Holland... The first episode is next monday. I am gonna watch > it for sure :). > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3282. Re: [Speed cubing group] Favorite Cube, and 3x3 you're best at
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 11:29:51 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hi :-) > > Megaminx is not a rubik's puzzle. I wouldn't really call the 5x5x5 a > rubik's puzzle either since it was invented by Udo Krell in 1983. > Likewise the 4x4x4 was invented by Peter Sebesteny in 1982. However > rubiks.com do sell those 2 latter puzzles and have right to do so ;-) > > Megaminx is invented by Uwe Meffert and sold by Mefferts ;-) > > My favorite is also the 5x5x5 cube, at least when it comes to > speedcubing. I also like fewest moves puzling on various puzzles, > particularly on the 3x3x3 6-color cube (and supercube). > > Cheers! > > -Per Well you see, once you put it to Prof. Rubik's puzzles only, we're limited to only a handful. :P
3283. Re: commutator question
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:09:50 -0000

I think I understand what you are saying, X will accomplish a three edge swap in the upper layer, keeping the corners and remaining edge in their correct orientation and permutation, is this correct? Then U changes their position on the cube and then the process is undone to get a solved cube with the 3 edges in a location. Is this correct? So how does one intuitively find these x algs that make these changes? Is there some strategy to this? Roger Wood- -- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Hello Roger, > > Well, you see, the formula XyX^-1y^-1, X actually has a specific > function. For example, the three edge cycle: > > X: MSDS'D2M' > y: U > > Let's say the commuter applies to the three edges ABC. A being at > UF, B being at UR, C at UB. "X" swaps A and B, leaving the top layer > untouched, and the rest of it in whatever mess it is. Then, "y" is > applied, the top layer is moved, which is allowed, since it's not > any of the part messed up, and the process is reversed, fixing > everything that was messed up. So few cubies were moved in the > entire process. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" > <pawsnwhiskers@> wrote: > > > > Thanks to Joel's website, I have a basic, rudimentary idea of > > commutators. > > > > My question is how does one find useful algs on a cube using this > > principle? Is it trial and error or is there a strategy? > > > > I guess for instance, does one sit down with a cube and start > doing > > moves and then do restorative moves to see what cubies are moved? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Roger Wood > > >
3284. Re: (off topic) I rediscovered an old hobby of mine
From: "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 15:30:25 -0000

Sounds fun! Even though it's not really much like blowgun shooting, I used to be really into archery... until the day when one of my arrows knicked my target, hit the chainlink fence, and flew into the roof of a shed that belongs to the crazy lady in my neighborhood. I've been grounded from it since. Anyways, I have a Cherokee-made blowgun sitting somewhere in my basement, but I don't have any good-condition darts for it. I'll have to pick some up sometime. Mike cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > this is really, really off topic, but as eclectic as our group is I > figured I'd have a chance of meeting someone else here who might do > this too. > > I used to really practice blowgun shooting when I was younger, but > stopped when I was about 13. Well, after trying to go through some > boxes and clean up I finally found my old blowgun, some darts, and > my target! I decided to take a bunch of shots and determine my > accuracy. > > Here is what I did: > > The blowgun I use is a 40 caliber Vyper with a 31in (78.74cm) barrel > and looks a lot like this > http://tinyurl.com/rg87q > > only it shoots 4.25in (10.80cm) metal darts instead of paintballs. > > My target is 11.44in (29.06cm) across and split up into 5 areas. It > looks like the one on this page http://tinyurl.com/kzsd5 only it > doesn't have the outermost ring as the one on that website, mine is > 1 ring smaller. > > Bullseye measures 2.00in (5.08cm) diameter > within the first ring including the bullseye has a diameter of > 4.38in (11.13cm) > within the second ring up to bullseye has a diameter 6.63in (16.84cm) > within the third ring up to bullseye has a diameter 9.13in (23.19cm) > and the whole target again has diameter 11.44in (29.06cm) > > When shooting at it I placed it at one end of my house and I shot > from the furthest end away I could get to which measured out to 30 > feet 2 inches almost exactly or 9.19 meters. This distance is from > the target itself to the end of the barrel on the blowgun from where > I was shooting. > > Here were my stats with this setup. > > Overall tonight I took 301 shots at the target from that distance > and hit the various areas the following number of times: > > bullseye: 41 hits > 1st ring only: 105 hits > 2nd ring only: 87 hits > 3rd ring only: 52 hits > 4th ring only: 10 hits > missed the target completely: 4 shots > > So I got the bullseye (3.14in^2 or 20.26cm^2) with 13.6% accuracy > 1st ring + bullseye (15.08in^2 or 97.29cm^2) with 48.5% accuracy > bulls + 1st ring + 2nd ring (34.52in^2 or 222.71cm^2) with 77.4% > accuracy > bulls + 1st + 2nd + 3rd (65.47in^2 or 422.39cm^2) with 94.7% accuracy > whole target (102.79in^2 or 663.16cm^2) with 98.7% accuracy > > I don't know what the standard is for blowgun shooting but I feel > like this must be not bad at least. I'm rusty from when I used to > practice a lot, but I feel like with practice I could improve on > this. I think the 98.7% accuracy on hitting a target roughly 11.5in > (29.06cm) diameter from 30 feet away must be pretty good, and I'm > happy with the 13.6% accuracy on the bullseye which is only 2in > (5.08cm) diameter from the same distance. > > Does anyone else practice target shooting with blowguns here? Are > these numbers good or am I a rookie compared to the real pros? Just > wanted to ask, I was happy with the results but I guess the pros who > do this all the time must be insanely good, like any sport that > people do a lot. > > Anyway I was very happy to rediscover an old hobby and wanted to see > if anyone else does this. > > Chris >
3285. Re: [Speed cubing group] BATG2 In the Netherlands
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 16:23:28 -0000

There will only be subtitles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Are they going to translate it in dutch ? (so that we can hear Tyson > "speak" dutch ?) :D > > Gilles. > > 2006/3/31, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>: > > Hey guys, > > > > Looks like the 2nd season of Beauty and the Geek 2 will be broadcasted > > here in Holland... The first episode is next monday. I am gonna watch > > it for sure :). > > > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3286. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:37:22 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Better have a look at http://tinyurl.com/k8ky3 Usually I don't like to install new software (Google video player in this case) but at least it was quick 'n easy and these videos are well worth it. Didn't someone say Anssi looks slow (compared to Gunnar, I think)?? I can't agree :-). I only wish the cameraman had zoomed in more closely in more of the videos... I especially like Anssi's one-handed solve, crazy fast twisting around 10 seconds into the video! Cheers! Stefan
3287. Re: Hi guys
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 19:06:45 -0000

upside down i meant not placed right. you have to do the RUR'U'RUR'U move to fix it. hard to explain, hope you know what i mean. i messed up because i had the corner in the B layer instead, so the next time i had it like that i put the corner edge pair in the F layer and did F'U'FUF'U'FU "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...> wrote: > > If you put the piece in the UR position(where the U face meets the R > face) and do RUR'U'RUR'U' it should solve the corner-edge pair. Out of > curiousity, what do you mean by "an upside-down one"? Oh, and my cross > is on the bottom. > > Mike > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > I tried this way befor, it was reall effective for me until i had an > > upside-down one. > > > > I just tried the UR and then RUR'U' and it messed up another corner > > edge pair next to it. Do you do your cross on the bottom or the top? > > > > I do mine on the top, but I'm trying to get out of it, I'm starting > > to do on the left every now and then but I try to put it on the > > bottom. > > > > "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > For F2L, I developed my own method that involves inserting a corner > > > sideways(for instance, if you're solving the FR corner-edge pair, > > put > > > the corner in so the D color faces right. Then, with the middle > > layer > > > edge in the last layer, you can either turn the corner up to meet > > the > > > edge with a simple R turn, or, if the edge is upside down when you > > do > > > that, place it in the UR position and do [RUR'U']x2. This way, you > > > only need to practice FRF'R' for insertion of a correctly aligned > > pair > > > or RUR'U' for a malaligned pair. > > > On my LL, I know all of the algorithms for when the edges are > > oriented > > > correctly, so I use combos of FRUR'U'F' to orient the edges, then > > > execute an OLL. From there I just use a Fridrich PLL to solve it. > > > > > > "jond93" <jond93@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I use an open corner and do the last lair in a max of 4 algs. I > > > > started on Christmas of last year, practice over 4 hours on all > > days > > > > except Wednesdays (church), and I'm still at 50 sec- 1 min 10 > > sec. > > > > How do you do that? > > > > > > > > I learned from NerdParadise.com, but that is pretty muh erased > > from > > > > my memory now. > > > > > > > > -toad > > > > "cocoa32301" <cocoa32301@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I learned from the little purple book thingy that > > came > > > > > with my cube. Your time in a year is totally dependent on how > > long > > > > you > > > > > want to spend cubing every day. I started(I think) on January > > 28th > > > > of > > > > > this year and am currently averaging in the low 30's. I spend > > at > > > > least > > > > > two hours cubing every day. I have a friend who started a week > > > > after I > > > > > did, and still goes above 2 minutes because he only cubes every > > > > couple > > > > > of days. So be persistant and have fun! > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many good website with newbie solutions, most of > > them > > > > are so > > > > > > called layer-by-layer methods. Just google around a bit and > > you > > > > should > > > > > > find something. I had never solved the cube 3 months ago, and > > now > > > > I'm > > > > > > averaging around 60 seconds, and I'm not cubing that much, so > > I > > > > think > > > > > > your aim at one year for just solving it is a bit low :) > > > > > > > > > > > > Good luck! > > > > > > > > > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/29/06, eduardo_de_cisse <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > lol hi ppl. i am kinda new to this Rubik's cube thingy i > > have > > > > YET to > > > > > > > solve it. =) I am aiming to learn how to solve the cube by > > say a > > > > > > > minute's time in 1 year and i would much appreciate it if > > > > someone > > > > > > > could teach me how to even solve it =P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3288. SPAM messages on the group
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 21:33:00 -0000

Hey everyone, I just wanted to send a message to address something that comes up fairly frequently. If you see an inappropriate SPAM post on the group or in your inbox with the group address on it please know that one of the moderators will delete the message and ban the poster upon finding out about it. Please do not reply to the inappropriate message, as this makes more work for the moderators to also have to delete your reply as well as the original message itself. If a message seems inappropriate or offensive and you cannot wait please e-mail me chris [at] speedcubing [dot] com or IM me over yahoo messenger at cmhardw and I will take care of it as soon as possible. Please do not reply to the message in question. This is not directed at any one person in particular, and is something that has happened often by a number of people on the group. Thanks, Chris (moderator)
3289. Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 15:17:47 -0800 (PST)

Hey guys/gals/pals, When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. **Stiff Cubes** -------- -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no lockups. -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes practice to get used to). **Super loose cubes** ------ -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15-16. -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques (takes practice to get used to). So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) -Brent Morgan :) --Brent --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3290. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:29:52 -0300 (ART)

Hey Brent I don't know if my main speedcube is a "super loose" one, but the other one feels stiffer. I prefer the loose one, 'cause I need less effort to turn the sides. But those stupid flat centers (is the old white DIY) makes it pops a lot...but I think it can be avoided...well...not totally...haha but, strangely, I most use my stiffer cube for one-handed cubing...I think the other is kinda "nervous", unstable when I'm cubing one-handed...and maybe because I take the stiffer cube to school, so that people can borrow and play with it... Also, I use the stiffer one more on BLD cubing, so I have less risk of poping...which is very bad on BLD... I'm thinking about buying a new DIY kit...btw, does someone know how the PVC stickers from Rubiks are? are they much better than the (horrible) paper ones? or should I just buy the one without stickers and put on cubesmith stickers/tiles? Pedro Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> escreveu: Hey guys/gals/pals, When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. **Stiff Cubes** -------- -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no lockups. -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes practice to get used to). **Super loose cubes** ------ -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15-16. -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques (takes practice to get used to). So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) -Brent Morgan :) --Brent --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3291. Re: commutator question
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 04:59:43 -0000

Well, the X in my example has a defined function: Switch two edges, while leaving the rest of the layer untouched. http://grrroux.free.fr/ Gilles Roux's site taught me commuters, hopefully, it helps you, too. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > I think I understand what you are saying, X will accomplish a three > edge swap in the upper layer, keeping the corners and remaining edge > in their correct orientation and permutation, is this correct? Then > U changes their position on the cube and then the process is undone > to get a solved cube with the 3 edges in a location. Is this > correct? > > So how does one intuitively find these x algs that make these > changes? Is there some strategy to this? > > Roger Wood- > > -- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" > <linkpoke@> wrote: > > > > Hello Roger, > > > > Well, you see, the formula XyX^-1y^-1, X actually has a specific > > function. For example, the three edge cycle: > > > > X: MSDS'D2M' > > y: U > > > > Let's say the commuter applies to the three edges ABC. A being at > > UF, B being at UR, C at UB. "X" swaps A and B, leaving the top > layer > > untouched, and the rest of it in whatever mess it is. Then, "y" is > > applied, the top layer is moved, which is allowed, since it's not > > any of the part messed up, and the process is reversed, fixing > > everything that was messed up. So few cubies were moved in the > > entire process. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" > > <pawsnwhiskers@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks to Joel's website, I have a basic, rudimentary idea of > > > commutators. > > > > > > My question is how does one find useful algs on a cube using > this > > > principle? Is it trial and error or is there a strategy? > > > > > > I guess for instance, does one sit down with a cube and start > > doing > > > moves and then do restorative moves to see what cubies are moved? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Roger Wood > > > > > >
3292. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 08:04:42 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Didn't someone say Anssi looks slow (compared to Gunnar, I think)?? I > can't agree :-) Just to clarify: Didn't mean to say Gunnar looks slow, either... particularly not in that 13.64 solve, of course. Cheers! Stefan
3293. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 09:51:12 -0000

Thanx! :-) By the way, I did 11.30 without luck yesterday, during my 16.78 average of 50. :-D /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > Didn't someone say Anssi looks slow (compared to Gunnar, I think)?? > I > > can't agree :-) > > Just to clarify: Didn't mean to say Gunnar looks slow, either... > particularly not in that 13.64 solve, of course. > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3294. NEw 4x4 approach?
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 10:29:24 -0000

HEllo ALL until last week, I hadn't touched my 4x4 since San Francisco. I averaged 2:13 there with a best time of 1:40. USing standard centers first strategy, pairing up edges. This is my new way I've been solving the 4x4 1. Build a 4x3x1 block (most of the white layer) [20 s] 2. Finish remaining 5 centers [15s] 3. Pair up 6 edges [15 s] This is really pairing up 3, and then pairing up 3 more as you restore the centers. I do this the same way as Frank Morris shows in his video (this is where I learned how- about a week ago). However, I think that here it is slightly easier, because the edges are rarely on the Left side. They are usually on the right and easy to spot. 4. Pair up remaining 3 edges. [10 s] I do this by doing 1 pair, and then doing the other 2 on way back. just like when you do 3, and then 3 on the way back. Sometimes you'll get "lucky" and have only 2 unpaired edges. put in U slice oriented correctly and do(R'r')(U'RU)M'(UR'U')(Rr) I like getting 3 better, but either way, pairing up all 9 edges is a 2 step process. 5. build Block 2 (13 moves) [5 s] 6. CLL (9 moves) [5 s] 7. Last 6 edges (13 moves) [10] NOTE ON CENTERS Right now I build white and yellow centers, and then build my 4x3x1 block on the white side. Then do the 4 remaing centers. I would like to just solve the 4x3x1 block directly, and then build centers with Stefans method. but I dont know if I can use this method, and keep my block intact. I like this method because you can mostly use R r U moves. Because everything takes place on one side of the CUbe (the RIGHT side), it simplifies things a bit. FOr example, I only use U R'U' and U'R U to insert edges. THis is really only useful if you use Roux. If you use CFOP, it's like having your cross done already when you finish pairing up edges. I would go so far as to say that is equivalent to having an xcross already. I didn't really account for the parities in my time estimates. Using my rough estimates for time, one should be able to avg 80-90s no problem. LONG POST>> Jason K DOES anyone else use this approach already? Or did I finally do something original?
3295. Re: [Speed cubing group] NEw 4x4 approach?
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 07:59:04 -0500

For a while, I toyed with doing centers, then pairing/placing the edges of the first layer correctly to start. After that, pair the middle layer edges, and use F2L to solve the pairs. Then, pair up the U edges using commutators. My best times were under 2 minutes with this, but I didn't work on it long. It's very much the same as traditional centers first, but you have the added bonus of good recognition for all steps always, and your F2L and cross are made easier. Anyone else played with this at all? -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3296. Re: NEw 4x4 approach?
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 13:39:38 -0000

Umm ... looks interesting ... Btw, are the moves and times given averages or maximums. If they are maximums i can't believe it ;-) How would u for instance flip the last 6 edges in 13 turns? Or would u be able to avoid those bad cases? Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...> wrote: > > HEllo ALL > > until last week, I hadn't touched my 4x4 since San Francisco. I > averaged 2:13 there with a best time of 1:40. USing standard centers > first strategy, pairing up edges. > > This is my new way I've been solving the 4x4 > > 1. Build a 4x3x1 block (most of the white layer) [20 s] > > 2. Finish remaining 5 centers [15s] > > 3. Pair up 6 edges [15 s] > This is really pairing up 3, and then pairing up 3 more as you > restore the centers. I do this the same way as Frank Morris shows in > his video (this is where I learned how- about a week ago). However, I > think that here it is slightly easier, because the edges are rarely on > the Left side. They are usually on the right and easy to spot. > > 4. Pair up remaining 3 edges. [10 s] > I do this by doing 1 pair, and then doing the other 2 on way back. > just like when you do 3, and then 3 on the way back. Sometimes > you'll get "lucky" and have only 2 unpaired edges. put in U slice > oriented correctly and do(R'r')(U'RU)M'(UR'U')(Rr) > I like getting 3 better, but either way, pairing up all 9 edges is a 2 > step process. > > 5. build Block 2 (13 moves) [5 s] > > 6. CLL (9 moves) [5 s] > > 7. Last 6 edges (13 moves) [10] > > > > > > NOTE ON CENTERS > Right now I build white and yellow centers, and then build my 4x3x1 > block on the white side. Then do the 4 remaing centers. > I would like to just solve the 4x3x1 block directly, and then build > centers with Stefans method. but I dont know if I can use this method, > and keep my block intact. > > > I like this method because you can mostly use R r U moves. Because > everything takes place on one side of the CUbe (the RIGHT side), it > simplifies things a bit. FOr example, I only use U R'U' and U'R U to > insert edges. > > THis is really only useful if you use Roux. If you use CFOP, it's > like having your cross done already when you finish pairing up edges. > I would go so far as to say that is equivalent to having an xcross > already. > I didn't really account for the parities in my time estimates. > Using my rough estimates for time, one should be able to avg 80- 90s no > problem. > > > > > > LONG POST>> > > Jason K > > > DOES anyone else use this approach already? Or did I finally do > something original? >
3297. Spring Tournament
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 14:05:32 -0000

Hi all, Just a quick reminder that I will be hosting a Spring competition in Murfreesboro,TN on April 22nd. If you're attending please fill out a registration form in advance. There have been a few small changes in the details and the schedule of the tournament as well, so if you haven't checked recently please do so. And of course if you have any questions email me: richy_jr_2000@.... www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia -Richard
3298. I created a new group
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:05:48 -0000

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rubikinkuutio/ It's for Finnish cubers mostly.
3299. Re: [Speed cubing group] I created a new group
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 20:41:05 +0200

You could do me a great favour, Anssi, if you could find out the ethymological background of the Finnish "kuutio" (cube). Learned men (Finnish) here in Sweden maintain that it comes from "kuusi" (six, (not spruce)), but I don´t believe them. (I have a feeling that it comes from Russian "кость" (bone). Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:05 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] I created a new group > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rubikinkuutio/ > > It's for Finnish cubers mostly. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3300. Re: Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:14:29 +0200

I'm pretty new to cubing, and I've never felt another speedcubers cube, so I have nothing to compare with. My guess is that my cube is "close to really loose". Just a couple of days I got my new stickers, and took the time to lubricate the cube again (I use silicone spray). I must say, my cube is feeling better than ever and I've been doing personal bests for a couple of days (still only around 40-45 seconds, since I'm new). I know that I _definately_ can't cube with the cubes without some lubrication (I've only used 25th anniversary cubes), then again I'm a programmer, I have no arm muscles :) Regards, Aron On 4/2/06, Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> wrote: > Hey guys/gals/pals, > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my > special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube > (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really > stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy > averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different > techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). > A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up > with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. > This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to > be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It > takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which > isn't a big deal with practice. > > **Stiff Cubes** > -------- > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" > moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster > moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no > lockups. > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still > possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes > practice to get used to). > > **Super loose cubes** > ------ > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15-16. > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which > takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques > (takes practice to get used to). > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully > everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results > are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for > better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > -Brent Morgan > > > :) > --Brent > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call > rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3301. New scramble algorithm
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 19:19:12 -0000

It's a fast one. http://grrroux.free.fr/me/scr.avi Gilles.
3302. Re: [Speed cubing group] New scramble algorithm
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 12:39:24 -0700

HA! That was wonderful! -Chris On 4/2/06, Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > It's a fast one. > > http://grrroux.free.fr/me/scr.avi > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3303. Vote!
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 12:43:50 -0700

http://characters.usanetwork.com/portal/characters/4028.html Vote 5's for me please! Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3304. Re: New scramble algorithm
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 20:22:56 -0000

Someone finally found an unsolvable scrambling algorithm. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > HA! > > That was wonderful! > > -Chris > > On 4/2/06, Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > > > > It's a fast one. > > > > http://grrroux.free.fr/me/scr.avi > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3305. Re: New scramble algorithm
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:43:52 -0000

Haha, cube got pwned. It's the same box of matches as the one from the flambée video, right? I think i spend too much time on your site :P ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > > It's a fast one. > > http://grrroux.free.fr/me/scr.avi > > Gilles. >
3306. Re: New scramble algorithm
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:49:35 -0000

Any chance someone can convert that to WMV??? My computer doesn't like AVIs :( Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > Haha, cube got pwned. > > It's the same box of matches as the one from the flambée video, right? > > I think i spend too much time on your site :P > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a fast one. > > > > http://grrroux.free.fr/me/scr.avi > > > > Gilles. > > >
3307. Re: NEw 4x4 approach?
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:32:39 -0000

Hello Per. The times listed were just estimates. I've only just started using this method, But I think I can get to 80 sec with it in no time. The move estimates are averages. 9 for CLL, 13 for L6E, 13 for B2. FLIPPING 6 edges in 9 moves: (RU')MU'M'U(rUr') typical roux solve. set up: M2U2M2UMU'M' Execution:(M'UM'U2)(MU)(M'U')(M2U2M2) another typical roux solve set up: M'U2MUMU2M'UM'U'M Execution: (M'U)(MU')(MU2)(M'U')(M'U2M) Getting 4 bad edges is the best situation If I get the orientation parity, I try to influence edges. Because you finish every solve with the M slice, the permutation parity is easy to recognize. I use U2 r2 U2 r2 u2 r2 u2 HERE IS A POST WORTH LOOKING AT. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/23725 Jason KOvacic --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Umm ... looks interesting ... > > Btw, are the moves and times given averages or maximums. If they are > maximums i can't believe it ;-) How would u for instance flip the > last 6 edges in 13 turns? Or would u be able to avoid those bad > cases? > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" > <kovacic81@> wrote: > > > > HEllo ALL > > > > until last week, I hadn't touched my 4x4 since San Francisco. I > > averaged 2:13 there with a best time of 1:40. USing standard > centers > > first strategy, pairing up edges. > > > > This is my new way I've been solving the 4x4 > > > > 1. Build a 4x3x1 block (most of the white layer) [20 s] > > > > 2. Finish remaining 5 centers [15s] > > > > 3. Pair up 6 edges [15 s] > > This is really pairing up 3, and then pairing up 3 more as you > > restore the centers. I do this the same way as Frank Morris shows > in > > his video (this is where I learned how- about a week ago). > However, I > > think that here it is slightly easier, because the edges are > rarely on > > the Left side. They are usually on the right and easy to spot. > > > > 4. Pair up remaining 3 edges. [10 s] > > I do this by doing 1 pair, and then doing the other 2 on way > back. > > just like when you do 3, and then 3 on the way back. Sometimes > > you'll get "lucky" and have only 2 unpaired edges. put in U slice > > oriented correctly and do(R'r')(U'RU)M'(UR'U')(Rr) > > I like getting 3 better, but either way, pairing up all 9 edges is > a 2 > > step process. > > > > 5. build Block 2 (13 moves) [5 s] > > > > 6. CLL (9 moves) [5 s] > > > > 7. Last 6 edges (13 moves) [10] > > > > > > > > > > > > NOTE ON CENTERS > > Right now I build white and yellow centers, and then build my 4x3x1 > > block on the white side. Then do the 4 remaing centers. > > I would like to just solve the 4x3x1 block directly, and then build > > centers with Stefans method. but I dont know if I can use this > method, > > and keep my block intact. > > > > > > I like this method because you can mostly use R r U moves. Because > > everything takes place on one side of the CUbe (the RIGHT side), it > > simplifies things a bit. FOr example, I only use U R'U' and U'R U > to > > insert edges. > > > > THis is really only useful if you use Roux. If you use CFOP, it's > > like having your cross done already when you finish pairing up > edges. > > I would go so far as to say that is equivalent to having an > xcross > > already. > > I didn't really account for the parities in my time estimates. > > Using my rough estimates for time, one should be able to avg 80- > 90s no > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > LONG POST>> > > > > Jason K > > > > > > DOES anyone else use this approach already? Or did I finally do > > something original? > > >
3308. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:25:13 -0000

Plastic PVC stickers for all cubes are $4.99 USD. You get 3 sets of stickers for the 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and 5x5, each 3 sets cost $4.99. They are a ton better than the paper-the paper stickers come off with the protectors in about 4 days, the PVC protectors go off fast but the color is extremely hard to get off (I scratched at one color for 10 minutes with no effect). -toad Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hey Brent > > I don't know if my main speedcube is a "super loose" one, but the other one feels stiffer. I prefer the loose one, 'cause I need less effort to turn the sides. But those stupid flat centers (is the old white DIY) makes it pops a lot...but I think it can be avoided...well...not totally...haha > > but, strangely, I most use my stiffer cube for one-handed cubing...I think the other is kinda "nervous", unstable when I'm cubing one-handed...and maybe because I take the stiffer cube to school, so that people can borrow and play with it... > > Also, I use the stiffer one more on BLD cubing, so I have less risk of poping...which is very bad on BLD... > > I'm thinking about buying a new DIY kit...btw, does someone know how the PVC stickers from Rubiks are? are they much better than the (horrible) paper ones? or should I just buy the one without stickers and put on cubesmith stickers/tiles? > > Pedro > > Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> escreveu: > Hey guys/gals/pals, > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. > > **Stiff Cubes** > -------- > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no lockups. > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > **Super loose cubes** > ------ > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15- 16. > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > -Brent Morgan > > > :) > --Brent > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3309. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 21:31:06 -0300 (ART)

But when you buy the PVC stickers with the DIY kit, they cost $2.00 (10.99 - 8.99), and you get 2 sets...I was wondering what is better...buy the cube that comes just with the lube, and put cubesmith stickers; or buy the one that comes with 2 sets of PVC stickers... Pedro jond93 <jond93@yahoo.com> escreveu: Plastic PVC stickers for all cubes are $4.99 USD. You get 3 sets of stickers for the 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and 5x5, each 3 sets cost $4.99. They are a ton better than the paper-the paper stickers come off with the protectors in about 4 days, the PVC protectors go off fast but the color is extremely hard to get off (I scratched at one color for 10 minutes with no effect). -toad Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hey Brent > > I don't know if my main speedcube is a "super loose" one, but the other one feels stiffer. I prefer the loose one, 'cause I need less effort to turn the sides. But those stupid flat centers (is the old white DIY) makes it pops a lot...but I think it can be avoided...well...not totally...haha > > but, strangely, I most use my stiffer cube for one-handed cubing...I think the other is kinda "nervous", unstable when I'm cubing one-handed...and maybe because I take the stiffer cube to school, so that people can borrow and play with it... > > Also, I use the stiffer one more on BLD cubing, so I have less risk of poping...which is very bad on BLD... > > I'm thinking about buying a new DIY kit...btw, does someone know how the PVC stickers from Rubiks are? are they much better than the (horrible) paper ones? or should I just buy the one without stickers and put on cubesmith stickers/tiles? > > Pedro > > Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> escreveu: > Hey guys/gals/pals, > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. > > **Stiff Cubes** > -------- > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no lockups. > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > **Super loose cubes** > ------ > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15- 16. > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > -Brent Morgan > > > :) > --Brent > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! 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3310. RE: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: "James Stuber" <jestuber@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:34:26 -0700

Cubesmith stickers definitely. IMO of course. _____ From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Pedro Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:31 PM To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times But when you buy the PVC stickers with the DIY kit, they cost $2.00 (10.99 - 8.99), and you get 2 sets...I was wondering what is better...buy the cube that comes just with the lube, and put cubesmith stickers; or buy the one that comes with 2 sets of PVC stickers... Pedro jond93 <jond93@...> escreveu: Plastic PVC stickers for all cubes are $4.99 USD. You get 3 sets of stickers for the 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and 5x5, each 3 sets cost $4.99. They are a ton better than the paper-the paper stickers come off with the protectors in about 4 days, the PVC protectors go off fast but the color is extremely hard to get off (I scratched at one color for 10 minutes with no effect). -toad Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hey Brent > > I don't know if my main speedcube is a "super loose" one, but the other one feels stiffer. I prefer the loose one, 'cause I need less effort to turn the sides. But those stupid flat centers (is the old white DIY) makes it pops a lot...but I think it can be avoided...well...not totally...haha > > but, strangely, I most use my stiffer cube for one-handed cubing...I think the other is kinda "nervous", unstable when I'm cubing one-handed...and maybe because I take the stiffer cube to school, so that people can borrow and play with it... > > Also, I use the stiffer one more on BLD cubing, so I have less risk of poping...which is very bad on BLD... > > I'm thinking about buying a new DIY kit...btw, does someone know how the PVC stickers from Rubiks are? are they much better than the (horrible) paper ones? or should I just buy the one without stickers and put on cubesmith stickers/tiles? > > Pedro > > Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> escreveu: > Hey guys/gals/pals, > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. > > **Stiff Cubes** > -------- > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no lockups. > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > **Super loose cubes** > ------ > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15- 16. > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > -Brent Morgan > > > :) > --Brent > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! 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3311. Re: Vote!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:23:39 -0000

Done. Wow, they really DID make you guys dress funny. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > http://characters.usanetwork.com/portal/characters/4028.html > > Vote 5's for me please! > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3312. Re: Vote!
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 07:21:19 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > http://characters.usanetwork.com/portal/characters/4028.html Noncubers might think "What the f*!% is he talking about, 1:58? He's doing it in 0:55 right here!".
3313. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: "jond93" <jond93@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:43:41 -0000

In paper stickers, they all come off with the protectos, with the PVC, they don't. -toad Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > But when you buy the PVC stickers with the DIY kit, they cost $2.00 (10.99 - 8.99), and you get 2 sets...I was wondering what is better...buy the cube that comes just with the lube, and put cubesmith stickers; or buy the one that comes with 2 sets of PVC stickers... > > Pedro > > jond93 <jond93@...> escreveu: > Plastic PVC stickers for all cubes are $4.99 USD. You get 3 sets of > stickers for the 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and 5x5, each 3 sets cost $4.99. > > They are a ton better than the paper-the paper stickers come off > with the protectors in about 4 days, the PVC protectors go off fast > but the color is extremely hard to get off (I scratched at one color > for 10 minutes with no effect). > > -toad > > Pedro <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Hey Brent > > > > I don't know if my main speedcube is a "super loose" one, but > the other one feels stiffer. I prefer the loose one, 'cause I need > less effort to turn the sides. But those stupid flat centers (is the > old white DIY) makes it pops a lot...but I think it can be > avoided...well...not totally...haha > > > > but, strangely, I most use my stiffer cube for one-handed > cubing...I think the other is kinda "nervous", unstable when I'm > cubing one-handed...and maybe because I take the stiffer cube to > school, so that people can borrow and play with it... > > > > Also, I use the stiffer one more on BLD cubing, so I have less > risk of poping...which is very bad on BLD... > > > > I'm thinking about buying a new DIY kit...btw, does someone know > how the PVC stickers from Rubiks are? are they much better than the > (horrible) paper ones? or should I just buy the one without stickers > and put on cubesmith stickers/tiles? > > > > Pedro > > > > Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@> escreveu: > > Hey guys/gals/pals, > > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, > though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages > with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super > loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging > between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, > solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving > with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute > force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the > stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average > sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose > cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces > move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the > super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. > > > > **Stiff Cubes** > > -------- > > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute > force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly > lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to > smoothness and no lockups. > > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though > still possible for a few single times). Requires some different > techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > > > **Super loose cubes** > > ------ > > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15- > 16. > > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, > very often. > > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 > lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires > different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? > Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. > Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just > suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the > quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you > do. > > > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > > -Brent Morgan > > > > > > :) > > --Brent > > > > --------------------------------- > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to- Phone > call rates. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e- mail > no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Acesso Grátis > Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3314. Re: Anywhere to get cubes in London?
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:50:49 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > > Try Hamleys in Regent Street. I checked it out. I ended up not leaving with a 3x3x3 but with a 5x5x5 instead. Not the best colour scheme (white opposite yellow!) and also with a purplish side. I guess I need to paint it some time. Unfortunately at least one of the centre caps came off as well. No good for blindfolding if that happens. Maybe I'll have to glue it on. Is glue generally OK to use on plastic? It does seem to turn quite well, even though it isn't lubricated yet, which could be a good sign. > > Duncan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GameOfDeath2" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:01 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Anywhere to get cubes in London? > > > > > > I lost my cube on a recent flight into London. The cube dropped from my > > seat and, > > because the seatbelt signs were on, I couldn't look for it. Also, because > > the plane had been > > delayed for a day and a half (being the recent snow storm in NYC), I > > didn't have time to do > > a search for it after the plane landed. > > So now I need a new cube. I'm sure there must be a place to get one in > > London, but I've > > never bought one here before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3315. Re: New scramble algorithm
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:22:02 -0000

Wait, you popped! ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > > It's a fast one. > > http://grrroux.free.fr/me/scr.avi > > Gilles. >
3316. 5*5*5 edge pairing up
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 19:39:28 +0100 (BST)

How does Mr.Frank Morris go about soving 5*5*5 edges. Is he solving all yellow triplets first, followed by white tripplets and finally the rest? What is his best and worst edge pairing up time? Does he spend 10 + sec in the last 2 pairs, if pairity arise or is he having any knack of eliminating pairity ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3317. 4*4*4 blindfold methods comparision - STEFAN vs CHRIS HARDWICK
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 20:31:33 +0100 (BST)

PBP METHOD(Piece By Piece) or STEFAN POACHMANN METHOD :- I memorise centers, edges and corners and solves them in the same order. I solve one piece at a time. I solve corners using T- permutation algm. If it happens to be odd number of times, then I swap UL and UR edges at the end. In this method the solving phase is almost continuous without stopping for thinking and peak concentration is not required. The set up and reset up moves are almost a second nature after practicing a while.But the number of turns is much more than any other method. The percentage of success is very high. The perfect solve is a pleasure even if the time taken is more. Well done Stefan! FC METHOD (Free Cycling) or CHRIS HARDWICK METHOD :- The memorisation is same as the previous method. Solves 2 centers and 2 edges at a time by free cycling. The steps are all intutive. Every step has different algm. After every cycle, I have to pause to think about my next cycle and posssible commutator or algm. This pause supercede the time taken for solving by Stefan's method. But the idea behind it and the pleasure I derive by thinking on the spot is inexplicable. It is a challenge. Peak concentration is a must throughout the solve. You have to be a very confident person. The percentage of success is not so high as the PBP method for me. I am yet to master this method. However, this method forces me to think a lot and develops my confidence about myself. Well done Chris Hardwick ! process--------..................stefan method..............chris hardwick method 1. memorisation time...........same ........................ same 2. thinking time....................less............................more 3.solving time.....................more...........................less 4.concentration level........... low is enough..............peak level is required 5.accuracy-------------------------% is high.................... I have to test myself (depends much on concentration level) I am learning chris hardwicks' method and practicing nowadays. The free cycling idea is fantastic. I havealready mastered Stefans method. Thanks to both of them. I like to hear all your experiences with these 2 methods and your tips to improve my free cycling method and any more idea. J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3318. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5*5*5 edge pairing up
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 12:36:04 -0700 (PDT)

i know frank is pretty busy today so he might not be able to respond, but from what i know he has gotten past strictly using white and yellow first, but he does 8 sets of edges, using the E (u e d) ring as the work layers and storing on U and D. Then finishes the last 4, i'll be updating bigcubes with the better edge method sometime this week hopefully, which should demonstrate the first 8 edges method. the last 4 can be pretty complex to do all at once, so usually you can just break it down into a couple smaller cases. as far as the parity goes, it would be pretty hard to eliminate it entirely (counting cycles on this would be impossible for me anyway) i know he uses the stuff from bigcubes.com final edges index, some algs from other people (like the 3 middle edge flip from frederick), as well as some advanced stuff he has come up with to get those last 4 done quicker, as of right now i know he's still working on that so its not on bigcubes and won't be public for a while. His typical breakdown is around 35 centers 55 edges and 25 final solve. feel free to throw up, i know i did. ;) ----- Original Message ---- From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.comf Sent: Monday, April 3, 2006 11:39:28 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5*5*5 edge pairing up How does Mr.Frank Morris go about soving 5*5*5 edges. Is he solving all yellow triplets first, followed by white tripplets and finally the rest? What is his best and worst edge pairing up time? Does he spend 10 + sec in the last 2 pairs, if pairity arise or is he having any knack of eliminating pairity ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3319. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5*5*5 edge pairing up
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 13:02:05 -0700 (PDT)

Yeah, what Clancy said :) I am pretty busy, but I took an "average" of the phases over 7 solves, and here are the stats. Centers: (41.17), 34.38, 41.12, (39.18), 33.29, 38.01, 34.20 = 36.2 avg Edges: (48.22), 55.11, 57.10, 53.78, (61.47), 55.88, 49.69 = 54.31 avg 3x3 Solve: 21.57, 23.29, 25.81, 25.82, 25.43, (26.33), (20.62) = 24.38 avg I am adjusting some things in my method, and those are evident in some areas, such as the 41's in the centers, and the 61 on edges. There is still alot of improvement left. Hope this is of some help, or whatever. Frank Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: i know frank is pretty busy today so he might not be able to respond, but from what i know he has gotten past strictly using white and yellow first, but he does 8 sets of edges, using the E (u e d) ring as the work layers and storing on U and D. Then finishes the last 4, i'll be updating bigcubes with the better edge method sometime this week hopefully, which should demonstrate the first 8 edges method. the last 4 can be pretty complex to do all at once, so usually you can just break it down into a couple smaller cases. as far as the parity goes, it would be pretty hard to eliminate it entirely (counting cycles on this would be impossible for me anyway) i know he uses the stuff from bigcubes.com final edges index, some algs from other people (like the 3 middle edge flip from frederick), as well as some advanced stuff he has come up with to get those last 4 done quicker, as of right now i know he's still working on that so its not on bigcubes and won't be public for a while. His typical breakdown is around 35 centers 55 edges and 25 final solve. feel free to throw up, i know i did. ;) ----- Original Message ---- From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.comf Sent: Monday, April 3, 2006 11:39:28 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5*5*5 edge pairing up How does Mr.Frank Morris go about soving 5*5*5 edges. Is he solving all yellow triplets first, followed by white tripplets and finally the rest? What is his best and worst edge pairing up time? Does he spend 10 + sec in the last 2 pairs, if pairity arise or is he having any knack of eliminating pairity ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3320. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: "Mike Stewart" <cocoa32301@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:05:07 -0000

I have no idea how to describe my cube. I just scrubbed and lubed it last night, and today, it does double turns with about the same strength it took me to do a quarter turn. Sometimes my U layer moves a half turn when doing RUR'U' now. Anyways, my times have ranged from high fifties(first solve with it) to a 27.xx (best time). I still don't know whether I want to "unlube" it or try to get used to it as it is. Mike "jond93" <jond93@...> wrote: > > In paper stickers, they all come off with the protectos, with the > PVC, they don't. > > -toad > > Pedro <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > But when you buy the PVC stickers with the DIY kit, they cost > $2.00 (10.99 - 8.99), and you get 2 sets...I was wondering what is > better...buy the cube that comes just with the lube, and put > cubesmith stickers; or buy the one that comes with 2 sets of PVC > stickers... > > > > Pedro > > > > jond93 <jond93@> escreveu: > > Plastic PVC stickers for all cubes are $4.99 USD. You get 3 > sets of > > stickers for the 2x2, 3x3, 4x4, and 5x5, each 3 sets cost $4.99. > > > > They are a ton better than the paper-the paper stickers come off > > with the protectors in about 4 days, the PVC protectors go off > fast > > but the color is extremely hard to get off (I scratched at one > color > > for 10 minutes with no effect). > > > > -toad > > > > Pedro <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Brent > > > > > > I don't know if my main speedcube is a "super loose" one, but > > the other one feels stiffer. I prefer the loose one, 'cause I need > > less effort to turn the sides. But those stupid flat centers (is > the > > old white DIY) makes it pops a lot...but I think it can be > > avoided...well...not totally...haha > > > > > > but, strangely, I most use my stiffer cube for one-handed > > cubing...I think the other is kinda "nervous", unstable when I'm > > cubing one-handed...and maybe because I take the stiffer cube to > > school, so that people can borrow and play with it... > > > > > > Also, I use the stiffer one more on BLD cubing, so I have less > > risk of poping...which is very bad on BLD... > > > > > > I'm thinking about buying a new DIY kit...btw, does someone > know > > how the PVC stickers from Rubiks are? are they much better than > the > > (horrible) paper ones? or should I just buy the one without > stickers > > and put on cubesmith stickers/tiles? > > > > > > Pedro > > > > > > Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@> escreveu: > > > Hey guys/gals/pals, > > > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, > > though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few > averages > > with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super > > loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging > > between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. > However, > > solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than > solving > > with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A > rather "brute > > force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with > the > > stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > > > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to > average > > sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose > > cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the > slices/pieces > > move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the > > super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. > > > > > > **Stiff Cubes** > > > -------- > > > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > > > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute > > force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could > possibly > > lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to > > smoothness and no lockups. > > > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though > > still possible for a few single times). Requires some different > > techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > > > > > **Super loose cubes** > > > ------ > > > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15- > > 16. > > > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, > > very often. > > > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 > > lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. > Requires > > different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > > > > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? > > Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. > > Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just > > suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the > > quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > > > > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if > you > > do. > > > > > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > > > -Brent Morgan > > > > > > > > > :) > > > --Brent > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to- > Phone > > call rates. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! 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3321. Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs?
From: "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 21:46:53 -0000

I'm wondering because Roux's site is sorta compacted by (D1)' and sym notation. So does anybody actually have a site where the algs are typed rather than looking here and connecting the dots?
3322. Re: Cube quality/preparation and Solving times
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:33:06 -0000

Hey Brent, Well... I can say I prefer cubes that are super loose, and I also have a 'gentle style', that is adjusted to this loose cube. I prefer loose and smooth cubes (internals should be smooth), and I also like it when the lube is still a little wet.. :). To illustrate how loose it is, and how I adjusted my style to it: I barely ever pop with my cube, but when I gave my cube to Ton Dennebroek at a Dutch meeting recently, he popped after 5 seconds. I think this is quite typical... In order to cube, I have to be extremely relaxed and smooth. I kinda trained myself a relaxed and focussed style... (inspired by some cool cubers). I also have some new DIY's, that are quite loose, but not smooth inside yet, and with those cubes I can't come at the same speed that I have with my main speedcube. With the main speedcube, I average under 15 seconds quite frequently now, but with the newer cubes, sub16 is pretty hard. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> wrote: > > Hey guys/gals/pals, > When I started cubing, I used a super stiff cube. Now, though, my special cube is super loose. I just tried a few averages with a stiff cube (really stiff), and some averages using a super loose cube. With the really stiff cube, I got averages ranging between 16-18 seconds. A few 16.xy averages, with effort. However, solving with stiff cubes required different techniques than solving with a super loose cube (which I'll mention soon). A rather "brute force" moving style was needed, and some good times came up with the stiff cube- but didn't come up as often as a loose cube. > With a super loose cube, I found it much easier to average sub 16. This "brute force" approach is useless with a super loose cube- you have to be _very_ gentle, it seems, and the slices/pieces move very easily. It takes a little practice to get used to the super loose style, however, which isn't a big deal with practice. > > **Stiff Cubes** > -------- > -(My) Average times: 16.5-18.00 > -Advantages: Virtually 0% lockups [stiff + smooth]. A "brute force" moving style (which I like), which in the end could possibly lead to faster moves/second. Less room for moving errors, due to smoothness and no lockups. > -Disantages to stiff cubes: harder to get faster times (though still possible for a few single times). Requires some different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > **Super loose cubes** > ------ > -(My) Average times: (best ever: 13.88); usually range from 15- 16. > -Advantages to super loose cubes: Capable of very fast times, very often. > -Disantages to super loose cubes: almost always atleast 1 lockup, which takes away time. POPs, too, are very often. Requires different techniques (takes practice to get used to). > > So, I ask everyone, what type of cube do you use for speed? Hopefully everyone can answer, so a statistic can be gathered. Maybe these results are different for each person, but I'm just suggesting that a possiblity for better times is the quality/preparation of the cube itself. > > Does anyone else have opinions about this? Please reply if you do. > > Anyhow, peace out friends/fellaz. :) > -Brent Morgan > > > :) > --Brent > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3323. who is this?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:11:54 -0700

I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg Don't cheat by using facebook. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3324. Re: [Speed cubing group] who is this?
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:15:25 -0700 (PDT)

omg is that bob? ----- Original Message ---- From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 3, 2006 9:11:54 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] who is this? I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg Don't cheat by using facebook. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3325. Re: [Speed cubing group] who is this?
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:18:29 -0700 (PDT)

Heheh.. I want to say Bob Burton.. :) Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg Don't cheat by using facebook. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3326. Re: [Speed cubing group] who is this?
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 21:59:49 -0700

For those of us with facebook.... -Chris On 4/3/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@its.caltech.edu> wrote: > I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: > > http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg > > Don't cheat by using facebook. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3327. Re: [Speed cubing group] who is this?
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:38:37 +0200

It looks like Bob without....hair :D Gilles. 2006/4/4, Chris Hunt <huntca@...>: > For those of us with facebook.... > > -Chris > > On 4/3/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: > > > > http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg > > > > Don't cheat by using facebook. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3328. Re: [Speed cubing group] 5*5*5 edge pairing up
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:09:21 +0100 (BST)

Thanks to Mr.Clancy and Mr.Frank. Wow! 55 sec avg for edges! That is incredible. I am pretty close with frank's centers and 3*3*3 solve. But in edges I am far behind, say 60 to 80 sec. I must practice a lot and I will try my best. J.Bernett Orlando Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: Yeah, what Clancy said :) I am pretty busy, but I took an "average" of the phases over 7 solves, and here are the stats. Centers: (41.17), 34.38, 41.12, (39.18), 33.29, 38.01, 34.20 = 36.2 avg Edges: (48.22), 55.11, 57.10, 53.78, (61.47), 55.88, 49.69 = 54.31 avg 3x3 Solve: 21.57, 23.29, 25.81, 25.82, 25.43, (26.33), (20.62) = 24.38 avg I am adjusting some things in my method, and those are evident in some areas, such as the 41's in the centers, and the 61 on edges. There is still alot of improvement left. Hope this is of some help, or whatever. Frank Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: i know frank is pretty busy today so he might not be able to respond, but from what i know he has gotten past strictly using white and yellow first, but he does 8 sets of edges, using the E (u e d) ring as the work layers and storing on U and D. Then finishes the last 4, i'll be updating bigcubes with the better edge method sometime this week hopefully, which should demonstrate the first 8 edges method. the last 4 can be pretty complex to do all at once, so usually you can just break it down into a couple smaller cases. as far as the parity goes, it would be pretty hard to eliminate it entirely (counting cycles on this would be impossible for me anyway) i know he uses the stuff from bigcubes.com final edges index, some algs from other people (like the 3 middle edge flip from frederick), as well as some advanced stuff he has come up with to get those last 4 done quicker, as of right now i know he's still working on that so its not on bigcubes and won't be public for a while. His typical breakdown is around 35 centers 55 edges and 25 final solve. feel free to throw up, i know i did. ;) ----- Original Message ---- From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.comf Sent: Monday, April 3, 2006 11:39:28 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] 5*5*5 edge pairing up How does Mr.Frank Morris go about soving 5*5*5 edges. Is he solving all yellow triplets first, followed by white tripplets and finally the rest? What is his best and worst edge pairing up time? Does he spend 10 + sec in the last 2 pairs, if pairity arise or is he having any knack of eliminating pairity ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3329. Re: [Speed cubing group] who is this?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 11:12:58 -0000

That was the first thing that popped into my mind too! I don't think it really is though? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Heheh.. I want to say Bob Burton.. :) > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: > > http://photos- 705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg > > Don't cheat by using facebook. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3330. Re: Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:21:05 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Beyer" <dbeyer816@...> wrote: > > I'm wondering because Roux's site is sorta compacted by (D1)' and sym > notation. So does anybody actually have a site where the algs are > typed rather than looking here and connecting the dots? > I think it's better to learn them the way he has it. That way you don't have to learn 48 algorithms. You can just practice doing ones you already know, backwards, and a few of them symmetrically.
3331. Re: Vote!
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 13:54:01 -0000

Great finish, though. :P
3332. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:28:26 +0200

Hello Chris, To-day I got my DIYs (four black sets) and with your excellent guidance even I succeeded in assembling the cubes. Unfortunately, in one set there were only five washers, in another four (I Have looked in the edge pieces). But for the first, such things always happen to me, so why shouldn´t it happen this time? For the second, Stefan´s washers seem to fit, so there is nothing to worry about. Well, thank you! Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!! > I like to assemble as follows: > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > wet (replace them if they do). > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > loosening each screw the same amount. > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > Chris
3333. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:45:51 -0000

Rune, Regarding the missing washers: I was sure that I had a missing one too. I know you said you checked the edge pieces, but take each one and bang it on a hard surface. Mine was actually lodged deep inside the foot of an edge piece and it wasn't rattling around. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Hello Chris, > To-day I got my DIYs (four black sets) and with your excellent guidance even I succeeded in assembling the cubes. Unfortunately, in one set there were only five washers, in another four (I Have looked in the edge pieces). But for the first, such things always happen to me, so why shouldn´t it happen this time? For the second, Stefan´s washers seem to fit, so there is nothing to worry about. > Well, thank you! > Rune > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!! > > > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris >
3334. AW: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs?
From: "thomasstadler" <thomasstadler@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 18:13:58 +0200

Hi, on my site i've got a CMLL table to download (Lösung Roux/CMLL) Some algs i've changed. Attention: i've written it in my own notation. 1= R 2= R' 3= L 4= L' 5= F 6= F' 7= U 8= U' 9=B 0=B' x= D y= D' My notation you will find on my site. Look at it. Perhaps it helps.. Cheers Thomas (Switzerland) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Daniel Beyer Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2006 23:47 An: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs? I'm wondering because Roux's site is sorta compacted by (D1)' and sym notation. So does anybody actually have a site where the algs are typed rather than looking here and connecting the dots? Yahoo! Groups Links
3335. WG: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs?
From: "thomasstadler" <thomasstadler@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 18:16:02 +0200

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: thomasstadler [mailto:thomasstadler@...] Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. April 2006 18:14 An: 'speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com' Betreff: AW: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs? Hi, on my site i've got a CMLL table to download (Lösung Roux/CMLL) Some algs i've changed. Attention: i've written it in my own notation. 1= R 2= R' 3= L 4= L' 5= F 6= F' 7= U 8= U' 9=B 0=B' x= D y= D' My notation you will find on my site. Look at it. Perhaps it helps.. Cheers Thomas (Switzerland) www.speedcubingschweiz.cabanova.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Daniel Beyer Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2006 23:47 An: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs? I'm wondering because Roux's site is sorta compacted by (D1)' and sym notation. So does anybody actually have a site where the algs are typed rather than looking here and connecting the dots? Yahoo! Groups Links
3336. AW: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs?
From: "thomasstadler" <thomasstadler@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 18:17:31 +0200

Hi, on my site i've got a CMLL table to download (Lösung Roux/CMLL) Some algs i've changed. Attention: i've written it in my own notation. 1= R 2= R' 3= L 4= L' 5= F 6= F' 7= U 8= U' 9=B 0=B' x= D y= D' My notation you will find on my site. Look at it. Perhaps it helps.. Cheers Thomas (Switzerland) Here my Site: www.speedcubingschweiz.cabanova.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Daniel Beyer Gesendet: Montag, 3. April 2006 23:47 An: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Betreff: [Speed cubing group] Does anybody have a site of Compiled CMLL Algs? I'm wondering because Roux's site is sorta compacted by (D1)' and sym notation. So does anybody actually have a site where the algs are typed rather than looking here and connecting the dots? Yahoo! Groups Links
3337. Chalmers Open 2006
From: "Anders Larsson" <anders.larsson@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 17:12:52 -0000

Cubers, The registration has open for Chalmers Open, 10 June in Gothenburg, Sweden: http://tinyurl.com/n3xe4. For those of you who do not understand Swedish, please consult nearest viking in your neighbourhood. /Anders
3338. Times for F2L/LL
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:15:19 -0000

Hey guys, I have a feeling that my F2L is just too slow. (I mean relatively) I took some F2L averages, and I could barely get under 10 seconds. I did some LL averages, and got a sub5 average (this does not include recognition of the OLL btw). Anyways, do any of you faster guys (sub16 or faster) ever take F2L/LL averages..? I have a feeling my F2L should be faster. - Joël.
3339. Re: [Speed cubing group] Times for F2L/LL
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:31:35 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Joel, I'm not necessarily a "fast" guy, but I am in the same situation that you are. I can average sub 5 for the LL, but I struggle to get under 10 seconds on average for the F2L. I wish I knew where to improve my F2L.. Frank Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hey guys, I have a feeling that my F2L is just too slow. (I mean relatively) I took some F2L averages, and I could barely get under 10 seconds. I did some LL averages, and got a sub5 average (this does not include recognition of the OLL btw). Anyways, do any of you faster guys (sub16 or faster) ever take F2L/LL averages..? I have a feeling my F2L should be faster. - Joël. --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3340. Re: [Speed cubing group] Times for F2L/LL
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 12:49:30 -0700 (PDT)

Yo Joel, This relates to my issue on "super loose cubes" and stiffer cubes. On my faster cube (which happens to be the super loose one), I can average sub 9 [www.speedcubing.com records-->f2l avg]. I think 10 secs would be an "average average" most likely... But it is an ideal time nonetheless. -Brent M Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: Hi Joel, I'm not necessarily a "fast" guy, but I am in the same situation that you are. I can average sub 5 for the LL, but I struggle to get under 10 seconds on average for the F2L. I wish I knew where to improve my F2L.. Frank Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hey guys, I have a feeling that my F2L is just too slow. (I mean relatively) I took some F2L averages, and I could barely get under 10 seconds. I did some LL averages, and got a sub5 average (this does not include recognition of the OLL btw). Anyways, do any of you faster guys (sub16 or faster) ever take F2L/LL averages..? I have a feeling my F2L should be faster. - Joël. --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3341. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 22:24:28 +0200

OK, I didn´t bang the pieces in the table but so far it seems to work with the help of Stefan´s washers. And may the hidden washers - if they are hidden - sleep an eternal sleep in the inner dark of some edge pieces. (Maybe they will be snoring). Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!! Rune, Regarding the missing washers: I was sure that I had a missing one too. I know you said you checked the edge pieces, but take each one and bang it on a hard surface. Mine was actually lodged deep inside the foot of an edge piece and it wasn't rattling around. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Hello Chris, > To-day I got my DIYs (four black sets) and with your excellent guidance even I succeeded in assembling the cubes. Unfortunately, in one set there were only five washers, in another four (I Have looked in the edge pieces). But for the first, such things always happen to me, so why shouldn´t it happen this time? For the second, Stefan´s washers seem to fit, so there is nothing to worry about. > Well, thank you! > Rune > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:26 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!! > > > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > Yahoo! Groups Links
3342. Re: who is this?
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:58:54 -0000

Is that you, Tyson? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I'll give a quarter to the first person who correctly names who this is: > > http://photos- 705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_14392.jpg > > Don't cheat by using facebook. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3343. Re: Times for F2L/LL
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 20:09:44 -0000

I'm also not really a "fast guy" but my F2L tends to be low 10.x or sub-10 very consistently. I guess that qualifies me as "struggling for sub-10" since I often get 10 second averages, but if I am concentrating well I can do a sub-10 without a huge amount effort it seems. I've never been sub-9 for F2L on average. My LL is bad compared to my F2L. A really good average is about 6.00 seconds or very slightly sub-6 (5.9x). I found that even when I use the same algs (like the T perm) as you fast LL guys I can't seem to do the triggers as fast. Wish I had faster fingers :-P If you want to help your F2L consider Xcross and dual solving combined. A roughly 50% chance for an Xcross on any given solve sped me up considerably. I average about 12-13 seconds on F2L if I always solve the same color cross and never do Xcross. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...> wrote: > > Yo Joel, > This relates to my issue on "super loose cubes" and stiffer cubes. On my faster cube (which happens to be the super loose one), I can average sub 9 [www.speedcubing.com records-->f2l avg]. I think 10 secs would be an "average average" most likely... But it is an ideal time nonetheless. > -Brent M >
3344. Re: 4*4*4 blindfold methods comparision - STEFAN vs CHRIS HARDWICK
From: GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:02:35 -0000

What is free cycling?
3345. Re: [Speed cubing group] Times for F2L/LL
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:22:36 -0300 (ART)

I wish I had a F2L avg like that...haha... I don't want to make F2L averages, 'cause if I get a really good, I'll think: "Oh, no...that could have been a great time..." Pedro Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> escreveu: Hey guys, I have a feeling that my F2L is just too slow. (I mean relatively) I took some F2L averages, and I could barely get under 10 seconds. I did some LL averages, and got a sub5 average (this does not include recognition of the OLL btw). Anyways, do any of you faster guys (sub16 or faster) ever take F2L/LL averages..? I have a feeling my F2L should be faster. - Joël. --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3346. First Layer
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:31:17 -0000

Hello, I'm currently learning Duncan Dick's L2L4 method on his site, and wondering: is there a faster way than cross->corners? Because according to him, in order for this method to be effective you can only have a 15-17 move first layer, and I'm getting stuff like 25-27. Are there any alternatives to the traditional method? Thanks in advance, Tim
3347. Re: 4*4*4 blindfold methods comparision - STEFAN vs CHRIS HARDWICK
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:07:40 -0000

Hi J. Bernett and Richard, Richard: I define a "freestyle commutator" to be a commutator used on the cube for blindfolded purposes where one of the permutation parts of the commutator is only a single slice turn, and the other is what I call an "insert alg". So if you have PQP'Q' then either P or Q, but not both, is only a single slice turn, and the other part inserts one piece onto the slice that the slice turn affects. That doesn't sound clear to me, so it would be that say P is a slice turn and Q inserts one piece onto the slice that P turns leaving the rest of the slice unaffected. Same with the vice versa switching P and Q. J. Bernett: That's awesome that you're getting more interested in the free cycling approach! I personally like it a whole lot, and as far as ways to practice it and get better just try to find different "types" of commutators that you can use. The more types you have the more options you'll see during your solve. Here are some of the most important types of commutators I use: Edges: Slide on the bottom: r' D r U2 r' D' r U2 direct insert: R' d' R U R' d R U' mostly face move type 1: R U R' u' R U' R' u mostly face move type 2: R U2 R' d R U2 R' d' pull from the lower middle: R' d R U R' d' R U' pull from the upper middle: R' u' R U R' u R U' merry-go-round: U R u R' U R u' R' U2 Centers: cycle on opposite faces: b2 r F r' b2 r F' r' on 3 different faces: r U2 r' d r U2 r' d' on 2 faces type 1: r' d r U r' d' r U' on 2 faces type 2: r' d r U2 r' d' r U2 on 1 face: (do 1 setup turn to make it cycling on opposite faces or a on 2 faces type) center blocks: on 2 different faces: r' (ud') r U2 r' (du') r U2 on 3 different faces: r U2 r' (u'd) r U2 r' (ud') Edge blocks: if NO corner parity: Do as two commutators. If you have (PQ)(ST) as the pieces that swap do the commutator cycle (PQS) followed by (PTS) to solve those two 2swaps. if corner parity: finish this two edge groups and the 2 corners together using a T permutation or something similar from the 3x3x3 when you run into parity on a 3x3x3 solve. You MUST do this after solving the centers, since fixing the corner parity *requires* that you perform an odd cycle on the centers. If your centers are unsolved, you must account for this fix, which is a pain. Be careful that the two edge groups are "flipped" the same way as per the 3x3, or else you'll end the cube with two edges swapped. The trick is being able to view these commutators as "types" rather than as algs. For example the alg above mostly face move type 2: R U2 R' d R U2 R' d' is just a type. I would also do "mostly face move type 2" like this also: 1) R' F2 R f R' F2 R f' 2) F R2 F' l F R2 F' l' 3) R' D2 R u' R' D2 R u 4) B L2 B' r B L2 B' r' 5) R B2 R' b' R B2 R' b 6) etc.. and the same goes for every type above. Be able to do each of the "types" from any possible angle and on any face combination. Do not limit yourself to using them as I wrote them, be able to do them on all faces, and be comfortable looking for them everywhere. ---------- Example: (fUR->rUF->dFR) This situation for edges looks like you need to do the setup move f' then use the "pull from the lower middle" type of edge commutator. But in fact this is already a "merry-go-round" without any setup turns. Use the merry-go-round type like this: F' L f2 L' F' L f2 L' F2 ----------- The basic premise of freestyle cycling is to try to never, ever ever ever never ever ever do setup moves. This isn't possible of course, you need right at 1.0 on average. However, try your best to never ever do any setup moves whatsoever. This will speed up your solve since the setup moves are not like for Stefan's method, they create a whole new setup and make you rethink which pieces cycle where. Also the setup moves are not, and cannot be memorized like for Stefan's method, since you always have two other pieces in random positions of the cube to try to preserve, or account for if your setup moves include moving one of them too. So in short, just have a lot of types of freestyle commutators and avoid setup moves whenever possible and as much as possible. Hope this helps, Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > What is free cycling? >
3348. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 19:32:49 +0100

Hi Tim, Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the UL edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and putting them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This leaves you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if you like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. Good luck. Duncan PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. Might get a pro to do it for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] First Layer > Hello, > > I'm currently learning Duncan Dick's L2L4 method on his site, and > wondering: is there a faster way than cross->corners? Because > according to him, in order for this method to be effective you can > only have a 15-17 move first layer, and I'm getting stuff like 25-27. > Are there any alternatives to the traditional method? > > Thanks in advance, > > Tim > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
3349. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:35:03 -0500

Duncan, I have somewhat of a silly request for you. I'm in the process of switching to a method where you coompletely orient all edges at the beginning of a solve. As such, it leaves one with all edges oriented throughout the F2L steps. For many cases, the final corner is already in place, but an edge is still in the U layer. As the algs to preserve the orientation, while inserting that edge are not very fast, I was thinking that perhaps it would be good to palce that edge and simultaneously orient the U corners, or even permute them instead. Do you have any algs that place the final edge and orient or permute corners without affecting edge orientation? -Mike On 4/5/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the UL > edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and putting > them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This > leaves > you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if you > like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. > > Good luck. > > Duncan > PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. Might > get > a pro to do it for me. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3350. F2L next step
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:46:09 -0700 (PDT)

Hey guys, I started using intuitive fridrich F2L about 2.5 months ago, and I am now finally at the point where I can look at most of the 41 cases and know an optimized way to solve it. The only ones for which I can not quickly see an optimized (or close) solution are the ones where the corner and edege are incorrectly placed, but in the correct slot... for these cases, I just remove them from that slot and solve them normally, wasting a few moves. My best F2L times are ~25 seconds, but average is closer to 40 seconds, and sometimes even slower than that. My overall average is now under a minute (yesterday i was averaging around 56-57 seconds).. Although I know I will get better with more practice, I want to keep learning new things. I know how advanced and complicated this F2L solving can get, and I was wondering what tricks I should start learning next. What is the best way to handle cases (for example) where both of my pieces aren't in the LL ? When I have a corner in the LL, and an edge which isn't, I usually rotate the LL and then bring the edge up so that I can get one of the R U R' moves, or F' U' F. I bet this isn't the best way to handle these. When I have an edge which is on the LL, and a corner which is not, i rotate the LL until I can bring my corner up and form a U' F' U F case. I know I can be better!! Let me know, and of course general tips for anything are welcome as well! Thanks, David --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3351. Back to cubing after 3 months... any suggestions?
From: "master_bater_0000" <master_bater_0000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 04:39:07 -0000

hello everyone, i stopped cubing for about 3 months, because i had some other things to worry about. but now im back doing it, and love it. but my time has slowed since i havent been doing it (obviously). i can get between 60 and 75 seconds, using layer by layer. its slow, and i would like to know what the easiest way to improve my time would be. i was thinking f2l, but couldnt find an easy, clear site to go off of. if anyone has a specific method or tips to help me get into maybe the 40's or 50's that would be great. thansk in advance -adam
3352. Re: [Speed cubing group] Back to cubing after 3 months... any suggestions?
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 21:53:53 -0700 (PDT)

If you don't know all the algs for a 4LLL, you should prolly learn those. A while back when I wanted to learn 4LLL, Craig Bouchard compiled a list of all the verions of the algs that he thought would be easiest to perform for a beginner. These are all the algs you need for a 4LLL: ----------- Orient Edges(the cross): http://www.cubewhiz.com/oll.html Cases 1 and 2 http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/OLL5.html the first case on there... Orient Corners: http://www.cubewhiz.com/oll.html Cases 4-10 (all good) Permute Corners: http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/permutations/permutationslist.php Cases 3 and 4 http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html Case 3 Permute Edges: http://cubefreak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/PLL.html Case 1 and 2 and 6 (Dan's Cubestation) http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/permutations/permutationslist.php Case 5 the first algorithm that begins with the x... ------------ petty simple, just one alg for every orientation of the corners, for every orientation of the edges, every corner permutation, and every edge permutation. I'm not an expert, but i average in the 50's now, and my average is dropping like 2 seconds per day, which is really exciting. the most important thing is F2L though.. i am just getting started with Fridrich F2L (well, i've been doing it for 2-3 months, but I'm just starting to be able to use it well), and i will say that it makes cubing much more fun. Using the LBL method is really, really boring. Ya, there is no clear site to go off of, b/c it's intuitive. Sadly, Doug Reed's page (which offered a decent explnation) and WikiCube (which is the same thing) are BOTH down right now, and have been for a few days... all you do really is learn to recognize 2 cases (4 cases, 2 of them are mirrors) http://speedcubing.com/f2l_crossbottom.html cases: b02 b04 b13 b15 It is obvious how those algorithms work... understand it, and how to recognize it. Then, the fun part is to take corner-edge pairs, get them into the last layer (IE, not into random F2L slots), and then pair them up so that they look like one of those 4 cases... then solve them. Print out that whole page too, all 41 algorithms... after an hour or so of tinkering, use the cheat-sheet to help you see the fastest way to get any situation into a pair. hope this helps david master_bater_0000 <master_bater_0000@...> wrote: hello everyone, i stopped cubing for about 3 months, because i had some other things to worry about. but now im back doing it, and love it. but my time has slowed since i havent been doing it (obviously). i can get between 60 and 75 seconds, using layer by layer. its slow, and i would like to know what the easiest way to improve my time would be. i was thinking f2l, but couldnt find an easy, clear site to go off of. if anyone has a specific method or tips to help me get into maybe the 40's or 50's that would be great. thansk in advance -adam SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1��/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3353. Re: 4*4*4 blindfold methods comparision - STEFAN vs CHRIS HARDWICK
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 06:05:59 -0000

Hi :-) Reading about Chris' freestyle cycles approach sounds almost like i do most of the stuff for my cage method. I't all about being able to make up various kinds of 3-cycles on the fly. Here are some rules of thumb regarding when setup moves are necessary: - all 3 cubies are on the same slice, then setup move(s) is needed ... must bring at least one cubie out of the slice that will be turned by Q (PQP'Q') - none of the 3 cubies are on the same slice, then setup move(s) is needed ... must bring 2 cubies into same slice - even if 2 cubies are on the same slice, those 2 cubies must be rotation-invariant by the move Q ... those 2 cubies must lie on the same orbital on that slice Example : for an edge 3-cycle ... assuming 2 of the edges are URf and ULf ... they are rotation invariant if Q is moving the f layer, but NOT rotation invariant if Q moves U ... if the locations were URf and ULb they are rotation invariant on the U layer :D Actually for the most part i will have Q moving an outer layer when doing my commutator 3-cycles. It just seems easier to me ;-) Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hi J. Bernett and Richard, > > Richard: I define a "freestyle commutator" to be a commutator used on > the cube for blindfolded purposes where one of the permutation parts > of the commutator is only a single slice turn, and the other is what I > call an "insert alg". So if you have PQP'Q' then either P or Q, but > not both, is only a single slice turn, and the other part inserts one > piece onto the slice that the slice turn affects. That doesn't sound > clear to me, so it would be that say P is a slice turn and Q inserts > one piece onto the slice that P turns leaving the rest of the slice > unaffected. Same with the vice versa switching P and Q. > > J. Bernett: That's awesome that you're getting more interested in the > free cycling approach! I personally like it a whole lot, and as far > as ways to practice it and get better just try to find > different "types" of commutators that you can use. The more types you > have the more options you'll see during your solve. > > Here are some of the most important types of commutators I use: > > Edges: > Slide on the bottom: r' D r U2 r' D' r U2 > direct insert: R' d' R U R' d R U' > mostly face move type 1: R U R' u' R U' R' u > mostly face move type 2: R U2 R' d R U2 R' d' > pull from the lower middle: R' d R U R' d' R U' > pull from the upper middle: R' u' R U R' u R U' > merry-go-round: U R u R' U R u' R' U2 > > Centers: > cycle on opposite faces: b2 r F r' b2 r F' r' > on 3 different faces: r U2 r' d r U2 r' d' > on 2 faces type 1: r' d r U r' d' r U' > on 2 faces type 2: r' d r U2 r' d' r U2 > on 1 face: (do 1 setup turn to make it cycling on opposite faces or a > on 2 faces type) > > center blocks: > on 2 different faces: r' (ud') r U2 r' (du') r U2 > on 3 different faces: r U2 r' (u'd) r U2 r' (ud') > > Edge blocks: > if NO corner parity: Do as two commutators. If you have (PQ)(ST) as > the pieces that swap do the commutator cycle (PQS) followed by (PTS) > to solve those two 2swaps. > > if corner parity: finish this two edge groups and the 2 corners > together using a T permutation or something similar from the 3x3x3 > when you run into parity on a 3x3x3 solve. You MUST do this after > solving the centers, since fixing the corner parity *requires* that > you perform an odd cycle on the centers. If your centers are > unsolved, you must account for this fix, which is a pain. Be careful > that the two edge groups are "flipped" the same way as per the 3x3, or > else you'll end the cube with two edges swapped. > > The trick is being able to view these commutators as "types" rather > than as algs. For example the alg above > > mostly face move type 2: R U2 R' d R U2 R' d' > > is just a type. I would also do "mostly face move type 2" like this > also: > 1) R' F2 R f R' F2 R f' > 2) F R2 F' l F R2 F' l' > 3) R' D2 R u' R' D2 R u > 4) B L2 B' r B L2 B' r' > 5) R B2 R' b' R B2 R' b > 6) etc.. > > and the same goes for every type above. Be able to do each of > the "types" from any possible angle and on any face combination. Do > not limit yourself to using them as I wrote them, be able to do them > on all faces, and be comfortable looking for them everywhere. > > ---------- > > Example: > > (fUR->rUF->dFR) > > This situation for edges looks like you need to do the setup move f' > then use the "pull from the lower middle" type of edge commutator. > But in fact this is already a "merry-go-round" without any setup turns. > > Use the merry-go-round type like this: > F' L f2 L' F' L f2 L' F2 > > ----------- > > The basic premise of freestyle cycling is to try to never, ever ever > ever never ever ever do setup moves. This isn't possible of course, > you need right at 1.0 on average. However, try your best to never > ever do any setup moves whatsoever. This will speed up your solve > since the setup moves are not like for Stefan's method, they create a > whole new setup and make you rethink which pieces cycle where. Also > the setup moves are not, and cannot be memorized like for Stefan's > method, since you always have two other pieces in random positions of > the cube to try to preserve, or account for if your setup moves > include moving one of them too. > > So in short, just have a lot of types of freestyle commutators and > avoid setup moves whenever possible and as much as possible. > > Hope this helps, > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > What is free cycling? > > >
3354. Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 08:37:57 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Anssi's world record on video > Better have a look at http://tinyurl.com/k8ky3 Usually I don't like to install new software (Google video player in this case) but at least it was quick 'n easy and these videos are well worth it. Didn't someone say Anssi looks slow (compared to Gunnar, I think)?? I can't agree :-). I only wish the cameraman had zoomed in more closely in more of the videos... I especially like Anssi's one-handed solve, crazy fast twisting around 10 seconds into the video! Cheers! Stefan "Finnish Artistry in Swedish Design" (And another Clarity at http://rapidshare.de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html ) Yahoo! Groups Links
3355. Re: [Speed cubing group] Back to cubing after 3 months... any suggestions?
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:25:06 -0000

HEy David, (and Adam) This is a better list of them...because the Orient Corners some of them aren't as beautiful as they could be...I swiched the Orient Corners to what it should be (these are the ones I gave you David, way back...) Orient Edges(the cross): http://www.cubewhiz.com/oll.html Cases 1 and 2 http://www.geocities.com/rubiks_galaxia/OLL5.html the first case on there... Orient Corners: http://www.cubewhiz.com/oll.html Only use 4, 6, 7 and 9 from this page... http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/orientations/ollprintablepage.html Case 52, 50(the one that is (R U R' U R U' R' U R)(U2 R')) http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/3-orientations.html Case 36B) b) Permute Corners: http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/permutations/permutationslist.php Cases 3 and 4 http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html Case 3 Permute Edges: http://cubefreak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/PLL.html Case 1 and 2 and 6 (Dan's Cubestation) http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/permutations/permutationslist.php Case 5 the first algorithm that begins with the x... Hope you like... Craig
3356. Short Parade Magazine piece about speedcubing
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:49:29 -0000

There was a tiny blurb about speedcubing in the Parade Magazine this week: http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2006/edition_04-02- 2006/Ask_Marilyn For ease: http://tinyurl.com/za79x Chris
3357. Re: Short Parade Magazine piece about speedcubing
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:53:45 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > There was a tiny blurb about speedcubing in the Parade Magazine this > week: > > http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2006/edition_04-02- > 2006/Ask_Marilyn > > For ease: > > http://tinyurl.com/za79x > > Chris > Wow, Marilyn became sloppy. Assumption 1 is not included in the question at all and the "most" in assumption 2 isn't, either. Real newbie mistakes...
3358. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:27:34 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > (And another Clarity at http://rapidshare. de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html ) All those videos give me the impression there was always just one person solving at a time. Is that correct? Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The ending looks sweet.
3359. Re: Times for F2L/LL
From: "zemalinou" <l_f_l_x@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:57:28 -0000

hi all, it seems we all have had the same problem to improve our F2L and LL steps. My experience in this domain isnt huge but it seems that F2L can be relatively easily mastered under 10s of average but doing it sub9 requires a lot of practice and regular practice. I spend 2 monthes without cubing and my F2L times decrease a lot. I think you should have a particular feeling with F2L especially with the cross-1st slot transition, this will drop f2l times under 9s. for LL, sub5 is really respectable but sub4 could be a reasonable goal for motivated persons. To my mind transitions are the most important things with the fridrich method. PS:franck and joel, join me on messenger we could have a talk on this. KEEP ON CUBING SEBASTIEN
3360. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Times for F2L/LL
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 17:23:31 -0300 (ART)

Hi Sebastien I'm also a (not very fast) speedcuber. My normal average is about 17-19 seconds, with a PB of 17.12. Can I add you on messenger so you can give me some tips? thanks Pedro zemalinou <l_f_l_x@hotmail.com> escreveu: hi all, it seems we all have had the same problem to improve our F2L and LL steps. My experience in this domain isnt huge but it seems that F2L can be relatively easily mastered under 10s of average but doing it sub9 requires a lot of practice and regular practice. I spend 2 monthes without cubing and my F2L times decrease a lot. I think you should have a particular feeling with F2L especially with the cross-1st slot transition, this will drop f2l times under 9s. for LL, sub5 is really respectable but sub4 could be a reasonable goal for motivated persons. To my mind transitions are the most important things with the fridrich method. PS:franck and joel, join me on messenger we could have a talk on this. KEEP ON CUBING SEBASTIEN SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3361. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 21:10:20 -0000

Yeah that one is incredible. The last few turns, it looks like the cube is twisting itself! His right hand is already heading towards the timer pad. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > (And another Clarity at http://rapidshare. > de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html ) > > All those videos give me the impression there was always just one > person solving at a time. Is that correct? > > Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The ending > looks sweet. >
3362. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 10:39:03 +0200

Hi Mike, You wrote: "As the algs to preserve the orientation, while inserting that edge are not very fast". I think R'U'R'U'R' URUR is fast. Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Bennett To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer Duncan, I have somewhat of a silly request for you. I'm in the process of switching to a method where you coompletely orient all edges at the beginning of a solve. As such, it leaves one with all edges oriented throughout the F2L steps. For many cases, the final corner is already in place, but an edge is still in the U layer. As the algs to preserve the orientation, while inserting that edge are not very fast, I was thinking that perhaps it would be good to palce that edge and simultaneously orient the U corners, or even permute them instead. Do you have any algs that place the final edge and orient or permute corners without affecting edge orientation? -Mike On 4/5/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the UL > edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and putting > them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This > leaves > you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if you > like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. > > Good luck. > > Duncan > PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. Might > get > a pro to do it for me. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3363. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 01:41:51 -0700

Yeah, that one is fast. It's basically a truncated version of the 2-gen U-permutation. Useful in blindfolding... though you probably want to add a U. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 7, 2006, at 1:39 AM, Ron van Bruchem wrote: > Hi Mike, > > You wrote: "As the algs to preserve the orientation, while inserting > that edge are not very fast". > > I think R'U'R'U'R' URUR is fast. > > Have fun, > > Ron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Bennett > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer > > > Duncan, I have somewhat of a silly request for you. I'm in the > process of > switching to a method where you coompletely orient all edges at the > beginning of a solve. As such, it leaves one with all edges oriented > throughout the F2L steps. > > For many cases, the final corner is already in place, but an edge is > still > in the U layer. As the algs to preserve the orientation, while > inserting > that edge are not very fast, I was thinking that perhaps it would be > good to > palce that edge and simultaneously orient the U corners, or even > permute > them instead. Do you have any algs that place the final edge and > orient or > permute corners without affecting edge orientation? > > -Mike > > On 4/5/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the UL >> edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and >> putting >> them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This >> leaves >> you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if >> you >> like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Duncan >> PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. >> Might >> get >> a pro to do it for me. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3364. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:14:51 -0000

Hi :-) B2 D2 F2 L' F2 D2 B2 R' is shorter but horrible to perform ;-) By first turning the cube physically it's faster performed as: L2 D2 R2 F' R2 D2 L2 B' :D Still not as fast as the 2-g solution though! Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > You wrote: "As the algs to preserve the orientation, while inserting > that edge are not very fast". > > I think R'U'R'U'R' URUR is fast. > > Have fun, > > Ron > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Bennett > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer > > > Duncan, I have somewhat of a silly request for you. I'm in the process of > switching to a method where you coompletely orient all edges at the > beginning of a solve. As such, it leaves one with all edges oriented > throughout the F2L steps. > > For many cases, the final corner is already in place, but an edge is still > in the U layer. As the algs to preserve the orientation, while inserting > that edge are not very fast, I was thinking that perhaps it would be good to > palce that edge and simultaneously orient the U corners, or even permute > them instead. Do you have any algs that place the final edge and orient or > permute corners without affecting edge orientation? > > -Mike > > On 4/5/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Tim, > > Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the UL > > edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and putting > > them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This > > leaves > > you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if you > > like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. > > > > Good luck. > > > > Duncan > > PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. Might > > get > > a pro to do it for me. > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3365. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:39:19 -0000

Hi :-) Actually this one is probably the best version : (R2 u2 R2 F')*2 Just adjust the cube appropriately first. (R2 u2 R2 F)*2 is useful too ;-) Have fun! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hi :-) > > B2 D2 F2 L' F2 D2 B2 R' is shorter but horrible to perform ;-) > > By first turning the cube physically it's faster performed as: > > L2 D2 R2 F' R2 D2 L2 B' :D > > Still not as fast as the 2-g solution though! > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" > <ron@> wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > You wrote: "As the algs to preserve the orientation, while > inserting > > that edge are not very fast". > > > > I think R'U'R'U'R' URUR is fast. > > > > Have fun, > > > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mike Bennett > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer > > > > > > Duncan, I have somewhat of a silly request for you. I'm in the > process of > > switching to a method where you coompletely orient all edges at > the > > beginning of a solve. As such, it leaves one with all edges > oriented > > throughout the F2L steps. > > > > For many cases, the final corner is already in place, but an > edge is still > > in the U layer. As the algs to preserve the orientation, while > inserting > > that edge are not very fast, I was thinking that perhaps it > would be good to > > palce that edge and simultaneously orient the U corners, or even > permute > > them instead. Do you have any algs that place the final edge > and orient or > > permute corners without affecting edge orientation? > > > > -Mike > > > > On 4/5/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tim, > > > Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge > (say the UL > > > edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) > and putting > > > them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and > UD). This > > > leaves > > > you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional > pair if you > > > like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. > > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > Duncan > > > PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I > promise. Might > > > get > > > a pro to do it for me. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of Service. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3366. Rubiks.com 3x3x3 DIY cubes
From: "yasheeve" <j6@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 12:35:58 -0000

I recently bought a couple of DIY cubes from rubiks.com Nomatter how I've tried I cant get em to work properly. Compared to the rubik.com DIY's I bought 4 months ago there's a HUGE difference. The ones bought in december are my absolute favourite ones. The ones I got home last week is barely usable nomatter how much time I've spent trying to adjust the springs, lubricate, and cut uneven plastic-edges away. The difference in weight between thoose cubes are also big. The plastic material also seems to be different. E.g there are two different type of cubes I got here. Is this something I have to calculate with when ordering cubes online? Is anyoneelse having the same experience ? Anyone know how to get thoose recently bought cubes to a good state? I've contacted rubiks.com but havent received any answer yet. Thanx in advance. /// Jonas
3367. Re: Rubiks.com 3x3x3 DIY cubes
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 13:01:25 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "yasheeve" <j6@...> wrote: > > I recently bought a couple of DIY cubes from rubiks.com > Nomatter how I've tried I cant get em to work properly. > > Compared to the rubik.com DIY's I bought 4 months ago there's a HUGE > difference. > The ones bought in december are my absolute favourite ones. > The ones I got home last week is barely usable nomatter how much time > I've spent trying to adjust the springs, lubricate, and cut uneven > plastic-edges away. > > The difference in weight between thoose cubes are also big. Can you tell the weight of the new cubes?
3368. Re: Rubiks.com 3x3x3 DIY cubes
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:07:56 -0000

Hmmm... well the kits that went on sale at the beginning of 2006 are of a different manufacture. But in my opinion the new ones are better. They are lighter (the plastic walls are thinner than last year), and the manufacturing of each piece is more precise. Refer to message 26318 for some photos and descriptions I posted. See if those match what you received. I've been extremely happy with mine-- it's basically all I use now. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "yasheeve" <j6@...> wrote: > > I recently bought a couple of DIY cubes from rubiks.com > Nomatter how I've tried I cant get em to work properly. > > Compared to the rubik.com DIY's I bought 4 months ago there's a HUGE > difference. > The ones bought in december are my absolute favourite ones. > The ones I got home last week is barely usable nomatter how much time > I've spent trying to adjust the springs, lubricate, and cut uneven > plastic-edges away. > > The difference in weight between thoose cubes are also big. > The plastic material also seems to be different. > E.g there are two different type of cubes I got here. > > Is this something I have to calculate with when ordering cubes online? > Is anyoneelse having the same experience ? > Anyone know how to get thoose recently bought cubes to a good state? > > I've contacted rubiks.com but havent received any answer yet. > > Thanx in advance. > > /// Jonas >
3369. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 15:37:51 -0000

Hello Duncan, I've tried something similar, but do you have tips on how to actually connect them together? Because as of right now, I'm getting something around my original average. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the UL > edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and putting > them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This leaves > you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if you > like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. > > Good luck. > > Duncan > PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. Might get > a pro to do it for me. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:31 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] First Layer > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently learning Duncan Dick's L2L4 method on his site, and > > wondering: is there a faster way than cross->corners? Because > > according to him, in order for this method to be effective you can > > only have a 15-17 move first layer, and I'm getting stuff like 25- 27. > > Are there any alternatives to the traditional method? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3370. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 17:04:32 +0100

Hi Tim, Suppose you have UL in place. Then I place UF in the FL position (U sticker on the F face) and then position the UFL corner next to it in the FDL position. Then F puts them in place. (Or this whole process mirror image on B instead of F). Each pair should be 3-5 moves I think. The moves to position the corner next to the edge are pretty quick and intuitive and I haven't written them all out but there aren't any especially difficult cases - certainly easier than some F2L pairs! You should definitely average under 20 like this and with practice of spotting moves you should get in the 15-17 region. Personally if it looks like a tricky case that I don't spot quickly I am likely to miss 1, 2 or 3 corners and use L2L1, or 2 instead or L2L4. But this shouldnt' be necessary! I think it was Paul Nixon who suggested that an adaption of the Petrus start would be a good way to start the first layer too but I haven't tried this. The fastest L2L method is to combine steps 2 and 3 of the L2L4 - moves found but not on the site. this allows you to leave one first layer corner unfinished and put in F2L pair there instead. Good luck again - keep trying and if you are still struggling e-mail me private and I will try to write out the FL cases (promises promises - not got much time!) Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer > Hello Duncan, > > I've tried something similar, but do you have tips on how to actually > connect them together? Because as of right now, I'm getting something > around my original average. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" > <duncan@...> wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> Lots of ideas for this. I suggest something like one edge (say the > UL >> edge), then pairing up the next corner and edge (UFL and UF) and > putting >> them in, then the next (UFR and UR) and the next (URD and UD). This > leaves >> you with a singe corner which you can use for a traditional pair if > you >> like. there are other ways but this is pretty efficient. >> >> Good luck. >> >> Duncan >> PS Will improve the site to all those who have asked - I promise. > Might get >> a pro to do it for me. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> >> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 4:31 PM >> Subject: [Speed cubing group] First Layer >> >> >> > Hello, >> > >> > I'm currently learning Duncan Dick's L2L4 method on his site, and >> > wondering: is there a faster way than cross->corners? Because >> > according to him, in order for this method to be effective you can >> > only have a 15-17 move first layer, and I'm getting stuff like 25- > 27. >> > Are there any alternatives to the traditional method? >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
3371. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:19:06 -0000

Hi Duncan, Wow, that was a lot of help in just a few lines. :) I was thinking up a way using L2L4 in the same order of steps, such that when you finish your FL, you already have 1-3 of the 2nd layer edges in already (which conflicts with the current L2L4 system). The best, IMO, would be a Corners-Edges LL system, since skipping one or two edges in more common. For 1 edge in already, you do steps 1-3 (preserving, of course), and then do one of the three edge PLL algorithms. For 2, you do 1-2 preserving, and do all the edges in one algorithm. In the rare case of 3-4 edges in, just step 1 (instead of 3) and do one of two of the corner permutation algors and go on with the edges. Four edges, well, consider yourself lucky to have a 35/37-move cube. :P What are your thoughts on this? Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > Suppose you have UL in place. Then I place UF in the FL position (U sticker > on the F face) and then position the UFL corner next to it in the FDL > position. Then F puts them in place. (Or this whole process mirror image > on B instead of F). Each pair should be 3-5 moves I think. The moves to > position the corner next to the edge are pretty quick and intuitive and I > haven't written them all out but there aren't any especially difficult > cases - certainly easier than some F2L pairs! You should definitely average > under 20 like this and with practice of spotting moves you should get in the > 15-17 region. Personally if it looks like a tricky case that I don't spot > quickly I am likely to miss 1, 2 or 3 corners and use L2L1, or 2 instead or > L2L4. But this shouldnt' be necessary! > I think it was Paul Nixon who suggested that an adaption of the Petrus start > would be a good way to start the first layer too but I haven't tried this. > The fastest L2L method is to combine steps 2 and 3 of the L2L4 - moves found > but not on the site. this allows you to leave one first layer corner > unfinished and put in F2L pair there instead. > > Good luck again - keep trying and if you are still struggling e-mail me > private and I will try to write out the FL cases (promises promises - not > got much time!) > > Duncan
3372. Re: Rubiks.com 3x3x3 DIY cubes
From: "Jonas Andersson" <j6@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:20:43 -0000

It seems like I have the same type of pieces as shown at the pics in message #26318. Hopefully I was to quick with my negative oppinion about this new type of cube. I reassembled my six new cubes. scrambled all the pieces and rebuilt them from scratch. I made 2 cubes with realy "hard" springs. 2 with loose springs and two with normal (something inbetween hard and loose). It seems like the ones with hard springs works fine now. The ones with loose springs isn't working at all. (stucking all the time when twisting) It feels like you have to have screw in thoose screws more than you're used to from the old cubies to get them to work fine. So if you're used to realy loose springs (as I) it might be a problem. one more thing; you realy need to glue thoose centercaps... no way they are staying in right place otherwise. I gotta fix my other cubes now. I'm quite sure they're going to work much better with more tensed springs. Reg Jonas --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hmmm... well the kits that went on sale at the beginning of 2006 are > of a different manufacture. But in my opinion the new ones are > better. They are lighter (the plastic walls are thinner than last > year), and the manufacturing of each piece is more precise. Refer > to message 26318 for some photos and descriptions I posted. See if > those match what you received. I've been extremely happy with mine-- > it's basically all I use now. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "yasheeve" <j6@> > wrote: > > > > I recently bought a couple of DIY cubes from rubiks.com > > Nomatter how I've tried I cant get em to work properly. > > > > Compared to the rubik.com DIY's I bought 4 months ago there's a > HUGE > > difference. > > The ones bought in december are my absolute favourite ones. > > The ones I got home last week is barely usable nomatter how much > time > > I've spent trying to adjust the springs, lubricate, and cut uneven > > plastic-edges away. > > > > The difference in weight between thoose cubes are also big. > > The plastic material also seems to be different. > > E.g there are two different type of cubes I got here. > > > > Is this something I have to calculate with when ordering cubes > online? > > Is anyoneelse having the same experience ? > > Anyone know how to get thoose recently bought cubes to a good > state? > > > > I've contacted rubiks.com but havent received any answer yet. > > > > Thanx in advance. > > > > /// Jonas > > >
3373. Re: Rubiks.com 3x3x3 DIY cubes
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 16:47:40 -0000

> It feels like you have to have screw in thoose screws more than you're > used to from the old cubies to get them to work fine. Yes, that's true. It used to be about 1mm was good. Now it's more like 0.5mm depending on your preference. The old DIY when assembled were actually slightly less than 57mm. The new ones seem to be back to standard size again. I think the pieces are just a fraction larger. Of course it probably depends on the particular batch, but I really believe they updated the molds for these latest parts. > one more thing; you realy need to glue thoose centercaps... no way > they are staying in right place otherwise. Nah, just cut a square piece of paper to fit over the center (including the walls) and mash the cap onto it. Mine have stayed put for several weeks now like that. That was one of the best improvements of the new manufacture-- caps that don't need glue! (Right, Stefan?) Actually I found that the old caps can be modified by breaking off the two tabs with pliers. Then they behave like the new ones. Chris
3374. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 19:26:28 +0200

In the final there were four competitors and we decided to have them solve one at a time since we only have one display. BTW I'm the judge in the background :) /Gustav Stefan Pochmann skrev: >--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesstr�m <rune. >wesstrom@...> wrote: > > >>(And another Clarity at http://rapidshare. >> >> >de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html ) > >All those videos give me the impression there was always just one >person solving at a time. Is that correct? > >Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The ending >looks sweet. > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > > > >
3375. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:16:40 +0200

We are interested, Anssi. Answer please! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Fredell" <gufr5747@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video > In the final there were four competitors and we decided to have them > solve one at a time since we only have one display. BTW I'm the judge in > the background :) > > /Gustav > > Stefan Pochmann skrev: > > >--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > >wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > > >>(And another Clarity at http://rapidshare.de/files/17063002/arsmotes_.zip.html > >All those videos give me the impression there was always just one > >person solving at a time. Is that correct? > > > >Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The ending > >looks sweet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3376. Fw: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 20:43:03 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rune Wesström" <Rune.Wesstrom@hem.utfors.se> To: "Rune Wesström" <Rune.Wesstrom@...> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video The link is obviously wrong. It should be: http://rapidshare.de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html We are interested, Anssi. Answer please! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gustav Fredell" <gufr5747@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Anssi's world record on video > In the final there were four competitors and we decided to have them > solve one at a time since we only have one display. BTW I'm the judge in > the background :) > > /Gustav > > Stefan Pochmann skrev: > > >--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > >wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > > >>(And another Clarity at http://rapidshare.de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html > >All those videos give me the impression there was always just one > >person solving at a time. Is that correct? > > > >Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The ending > >looks sweet.
3377. Re: [Speed cubing group] First Layer
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:02:53 -0500

That's a neat alg, Per. I'm going to steal that and play with it. And I know that the 2 gen alg Ron posted can be quite fast, but the corners only come up oriented 1/27 of the time. I'm looking for algs to help transform the Sune, Double Sune, and Bruno cases into U/T/L/skips for corner orientation. This is all done very easily and intuitively for the cases with a normal pair to insert (case 1 or 13 from Chris Hardwick's ZBF2L page), but I'm looking for a better way to influence corner orientation from the edge and corner correctly placed cases than just taking them out and putting them back in. -Mike On 4/7/06, Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hi :-) > > Actually this one is probably the best version : > > (R2 u2 R2 F')*2 > > Just adjust the cube appropriately first. > > (R2 u2 R2 F)*2 is useful too ;-) > > Have fun! > > -Per > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" > > <ron@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > You wrote: "As the algs to preserve the orientation, while > > inserting > > > that edge are not very fast". > > > > > > I think R'U'R'U'R' URUR is fast. > > > > > > Have fun, > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > Duncan, I have somewhat of a silly request for you. I'm in > the > > process of > > > switching to a method where you coompletely orient all edges > at > > the > > > beginning of a solve. As such, it leaves one with all edges > > oriented > > > throughout the F2L steps. > > > > > > For many cases, the final corner is already in place, but an > > edge is still > > > in the U layer. As the algs to preserve the orientation, > while > > inserting > > > that edge are not very fast, I was thinking that perhaps it > > would be good to > > > palce that edge and simultaneously orient the U corners, or > even > > permute > > > them instead. Do you have any algs that place the final edge > > and orient or > > > permute corners without affecting edge orientation? > > > > > > -Mike [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3378. Rubik's Game
From: "Evan" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:17:15 -0000

So something just hit me... There exists to my knowledge one multiplayer game involving the Rubik's cube, and that is the Rubik's Game, the cube with the holes and the pegs. So why on earth, at tournaments, is there not a Rubik's Game competition!?!? There are 2-6 players, there can be brackets, or points for getting a certain place with a certain number of people, etc. Just an idea -Evan Until next time, Happy Cubing http://www.deepcube.net
3379. cubes on amazon.com
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 02:47:25 -0000

Does anyone know anything about the 4x4 and 5x5 available on amazon.com? Are these rubik variety or some cheap knock-off? Thanks. Roger Wood
3380. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 4*4*4 blindfold methods comparision - STEFAN vs CHRIS HARDWICK
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:07:39 +0100 (BST)

Thanks a lot to Chris Hardwick and Per kristen Fredlund for all the interesting tips. I not only like it but also enjoy doing it. J.Bernett Orlando Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: Hi :-) Reading about Chris' freestyle cycles approach sounds almost like i do most of the stuff for my cage method. I't all about being able to make up various kinds of 3-cycles on the fly. Here are some rules of thumb regarding when setup moves are necessary: - all 3 cubies are on the same slice, then setup move(s) is needed ... must bring at least one cubie out of the slice that will be turned by Q (PQP'Q') - none of the 3 cubies are on the same slice, then setup move(s) is needed ... must bring 2 cubies into same slice - even if 2 cubies are on the same slice, those 2 cubies must be rotation-invariant by the move Q ... those 2 cubies must lie on the same orbital on that slice Example : for an edge 3-cycle ... assuming 2 of the edges are URf and ULf ... they are rotation invariant if Q is moving the f layer, but NOT rotation invariant if Q moves U ... if the locations were URf and ULb they are rotation invariant on the U layer :D Actually for the most part i will have Q moving an outer layer when doing my commutator 3-cycles. It just seems easier to me ;-) Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hi J. Bernett and Richard, > > Richard: I define a "freestyle commutator" to be a commutator used on > the cube for blindfolded purposes where one of the permutation parts > of the commutator is only a single slice turn, and the other is what I > call an "insert alg". So if you have PQP'Q' then either P or Q, but > not both, is only a single slice turn, and the other part inserts one > piece onto the slice that the slice turn affects. That doesn't sound > clear to me, so it would be that say P is a slice turn and Q inserts > one piece onto the slice that P turns leaving the rest of the slice > unaffected. Same with the vice versa switching P and Q. > > J. Bernett: That's awesome that you're getting more interested in the > free cycling approach! I personally like it a whole lot, and as far > as ways to practice it and get better just try to find > different "types" of commutators that you can use. The more types you > have the more options you'll see during your solve. > > Here are some of the most important types of commutators I use: > > Edges: > Slide on the bottom: r' D r U2 r' D' r U2 > direct insert: R' d' R U R' d R U' > mostly face move type 1: R U R' u' R U' R' u > mostly face move type 2: R U2 R' d R U2 R' d' > pull from the lower middle: R' d R U R' d' R U' > pull from the upper middle: R' u' R U R' u R U' > merry-go-round: U R u R' U R u' R' U2 > > Centers: > cycle on opposite faces: b2 r F r' b2 r F' r' > on 3 different faces: r U2 r' d r U2 r' d' > on 2 faces type 1: r' d r U r' d' r U' > on 2 faces type 2: r' d r U2 r' d' r U2 > on 1 face: (do 1 setup turn to make it cycling on opposite faces or a > on 2 faces type) > > center blocks: > on 2 different faces: r' (ud') r U2 r' (du') r U2 > on 3 different faces: r U2 r' (u'd) r U2 r' (ud') > > Edge blocks: > if NO corner parity: Do as two commutators. If you have (PQ)(ST) as > the pieces that swap do the commutator cycle (PQS) followed by (PTS) > to solve those two 2swaps. > > if corner parity: finish this two edge groups and the 2 corners > together using a T permutation or something similar from the 3x3x3 > when you run into parity on a 3x3x3 solve. You MUST do this after > solving the centers, since fixing the corner parity *requires* that > you perform an odd cycle on the centers. If your centers are > unsolved, you must account for this fix, which is a pain. Be careful > that the two edge groups are "flipped" the same way as per the 3x3, or > else you'll end the cube with two edges swapped. > > The trick is being able to view these commutators as "types" rather > than as algs. For example the alg above > > mostly face move type 2: R U2 R' d R U2 R' d' > > is just a type. I would also do "mostly face move type 2" like this > also: > 1) R' F2 R f R' F2 R f' > 2) F R2 F' l F R2 F' l' > 3) R' D2 R u' R' D2 R u > 4) B L2 B' r B L2 B' r' > 5) R B2 R' b' R B2 R' b > 6) etc.. > > and the same goes for every type above. Be able to do each of > the "types" from any possible angle and on any face combination. Do > not limit yourself to using them as I wrote them, be able to do them > on all faces, and be comfortable looking for them everywhere. > > ---------- > > Example: > > (fUR->rUF->dFR) > > This situation for edges looks like you need to do the setup move f' > then use the "pull from the lower middle" type of edge commutator. > But in fact this is already a "merry-go-round" without any setup turns. > > Use the merry-go-round type like this: > F' L f2 L' F' L f2 L' F2 > > ----------- > > The basic premise of freestyle cycling is to try to never, ever ever > ever never ever ever do setup moves. This isn't possible of course, > you need right at 1.0 on average. However, try your best to never > ever do any setup moves whatsoever. This will speed up your solve > since the setup moves are not like for Stefan's method, they create a > whole new setup and make you rethink which pieces cycle where. Also > the setup moves are not, and cannot be memorized like for Stefan's > method, since you always have two other pieces in random positions of > the cube to try to preserve, or account for if your setup moves > include moving one of them too. > > So in short, just have a lot of types of freestyle commutators and > avoid setup moves whenever possible and as much as possible. > > Hope this helps, > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, GameOfDeath2 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > What is free cycling? > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. 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3381. cube injury - help please
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 05:15:00 +0100 (BST)

OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. How can I overcome this please ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3382. Re: Rubik's Game
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 07:25:48 -0000

Well uh, you see, it's multi-player, unlike all the other events in the competition. But also, where can you find a Rubik's Game today anyways? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" <evan.gates@...> wrote: > > So something just hit me... > There exists to my knowledge one multiplayer game involving the > Rubik's cube, and that is the Rubik's Game, the cube with the holes > and the pegs. So why on earth, at tournaments, is there not a Rubik's > Game competition!?!? There are 2-6 players, there can be brackets, or > points for getting a certain place with a certain number of people, > etc. Just an idea > > -Evan > > Until next time, Happy Cubing > http://www.deepcube.net >
3383. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:42:15 +0200

Hello, I've had some troubles with my hands a while ago, the only good medicine I can advice is rest. These days I'm resting my hands a lot because they will have a tough month (German Open, Belgian Open). If it is very painful (as it seems), maybe you should ask a doctor. Recover well, Gilles. 2006/4/8, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>: > OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. > As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. > How can I overcome this please ? > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3384. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Rubik's Game
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:43:07 +0200

on ebay...sometimes... :D Gilles 2006/4/8, Timothy Sun <linkpoke@...m>: > Well uh, you see, it's multi-player, unlike all the other events in > the competition. But also, where can you find a Rubik's Game today > anyways? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Evan" > <evan.gates@...> wrote: > > > > So something just hit me... > > There exists to my knowledge one multiplayer game involving the > > Rubik's cube, and that is the Rubik's Game, the cube with the > holes > > and the pegs. So why on earth, at tournaments, is there not a > Rubik's > > Game competition!?!? There are 2-6 players, there can be > brackets, or > > points for getting a certain place with a certain number of > people, > > etc. Just an idea > > > > -Evan > > > > Until next time, Happy Cubing > > http://www.deepcube.net > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3385. Re: cubes on amazon.com
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:41:42 -0000

They are Winning Moves, which is officially Rubik licensed. CHris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about the 4x4 and 5x5 available on > amazon.com? Are these rubik variety or some cheap knock-off? > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood >
3386. [Speed cubing group] Re: Rubik's Game
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:17:51 -0000

On ebay quite a bit. I have 4 of them. Jon
3387. Re: cube injury - help please
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:38:48 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. > As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. > How can I overcome this please ? > > J.Bernett Orlando If you haven't yet, tell your dad about it. Maybe you should really go to a doctor, it sounds very bad. Even if it's not dangerous, he can give you the best advice what to do and not to do. Stop cubing and other hand/arm straining activities for a while. Maybe read books, practice memorization, ...
3388. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cube injury - help please
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:44:03 -0700

You need to take a break. Cubing through pain can only exacerbate the condition. I don't know of any sports where one would continue to train through an injury. Doing so can only risk permanent damage to your body. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 8, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@...> wrote: >> >> OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did > not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could > not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. >> As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not > hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. >> How can I overcome this please ? >> >> J.Bernett Orlando > > If you haven't yet, tell your dad about it. Maybe you should really go > to a doctor, it sounds very bad. Even if it's not dangerous, he can > give you the best advice what to do and not to do. Stop cubing and > other hand/arm straining activities for a while. Maybe read books, > practice memorization, ... > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3389. Roux Cube Stool??
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:03:52 -0700

Is this from one of his videos? http://www.shopnbc.com/product/? familyid=V38641&storeid=1&track=-51003&oasid=1000 - - - - - - - - - - - - "A closed mouth gathers no foot" Lars Petrus - lars@... http://lar5.com
3390. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: "FD-Rubik" <fdrubik@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 20:10:29 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnLouis Louis" <pjlmem@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 6:15 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please > OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. > As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. > How can I overcome this please ? > > J.Bernett Orlando I would stop cubing for at least ONE MONTH, even if the condition seems to improve. Don't play with your health. I guess over-cubing could induce tendinitis, and other bone/nerve/tendon injuries. I wonder if it could induce CTS (carpal tunnel syndrome), like for the people who use a keyboard intensively. If I had your problems I would check my symptoms against CTS. If CTS is suspected, I would definitely stop cubing and switch to sudoku. Good luck. -- Francois.
3391. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cube injury - help please
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 19:44:54 +0100 (BST)

Thanks for all your suggestions and advise. Yes, I am taking a break now. I informed my dad and he is taking me to our doctor tomorrow. School is closed for 75 days for summer vacation. It is too hot here nowadays(42 degree celcius). So I can not go out to play also. I already had a mild pain. But since solving 142 cubes in an hour a few days ago, the pain was severe. My mum applied some pain reliever today. But still it is paining severely. My dad was joking that he also has severe pain because he scrambled 142 cubes so fast. I am wooried taking a break might slow down my speed when I restart. So this forced me to do something different today. I found an old VCD in my mums table marked John Louis WEDS Poulin Selvarani, 19 MAY 1989. I watched this hour long cd fully again and again. It was all fun. My mum and dad looked very different. My grand parents were looking young and I could not identify many of my relatives and my dads friends. I was really surprised to see such a big crowd in my parents wedding day and my mum told me that my dad has many good friends and that is his only wealth. Anybody has the chance to watch your parents wedding vcd ? J.Bernett Orlando Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: You need to take a break. Cubing through pain can only exacerbate the condition. I don't know of any sports where one would continue to train through an injury. Doing so can only risk permanent damage to your body. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 8, 2006, at 7:38 AM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@...> wrote: >> >> OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did > not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could > not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. >> As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not > hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. >> How can I overcome this please ? >> >> J.Bernett Orlando > > If you haven't yet, tell your dad about it. Maybe you should really go > to a doctor, it sounds very bad. Even if it's not dangerous, he can > give you the best advice what to do and not to do. Stop cubing and > other hand/arm straining activities for a while. Maybe read books, > practice memorization, ... > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3392. Re: Roux Cube Stool??
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 18:56:14 -0000

Hehe. I read that "roux cubes" were very useful in cooking too, but I don't know exactly what they are. Some funny quotes I found on the web: - "I used a quick roux substitute method I'd read about on another cooking website". - "Many Cajun grandmothers have switched over to instant roux because it is easier and quicker". - "I suppose you could make a roux in the microwave, and I guess that with practice you can learn how to do it properly. But it seems like a pretty dicey proposition to me." Roux is such a common name (about 60000 Rouxes in France), it's not very surprising some have given their name to things like cube objects. Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > Is this from one of his videos? > > http://www.shopnbc.com/product/? > familyid=V38641&storeid=1&track=-51003&oasid=1000 > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - > "A closed mouth gathers no foot" > > Lars Petrus - lars@... http://lar5.com >
3393. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: cube injury - help please
From: Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 15:06:19 -0400

Maybe you could practice feet-solving :-). Anthony
3394. Country WRs
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:24:49 -0000

Yet another useless statistic I was curios about... wrote this program since I'm too lazy to count and because I just like Perl hacks like that: map{$c{$2}++ if /(<td>(.*?)<\/td>){4}/}<>; for(sort{$c{$b}<=>$c{$a}}keys(%c)){ print "$c{$_} $_\n"; } Applied to http://www.speedcubing.com/rankings/worldrecords.html 11 USA 5 Germany 4 Finland 3 Japan 2 Belgium 2 Sweden 2 Norway 1 Poland 1 Czech Republic 1 Netherlands 1 France 1 Israel Germany+Finland close behind USA :-)
3395. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:38:04 -0700 (PDT)

My mom is a physical therapist and is very knowledgeable with these problems. She says you need to get exercise (especially something that can involve your arms/wrists). You also need to stretch the affected areas every day (Try different kinds of stretches and be sure you are getting all of the muscles) She also recommends a break from cubing, but I know you wont do that. Perhaps just cube less for a week or two. David JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. How can I overcome this please ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3396. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:38:03 -0700 (PDT)

My mom is a physical therapist and is very knowledgeable with these problems. She says you need to get exercise (especially something that can involve your arms/wrists). You also need to stretch the affected areas every day (Try different kinds of stretches and be sure you are getting all of the muscles) She also recommends a break from cubing, but I know you wont do that. Perhaps just cube less for a week or two. David JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. How can I overcome this please ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3397. Re: Country WRs
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:35:56 -0000

Hopefully Sweden will get one more when I break the WR for 2*2*2 average. :-) Weel, that is at least my goal. If I don't break it at German Open I'm going to switch to a more complex, and faster, method so I can get closer. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Yet another useless statistic I was curios about... wrote this program > since I'm too lazy to count and because I just like Perl hacks like > that: > > map{$c{$2}++ if /(<td>(.*?)<\/td>){4}/}<>; > for(sort{$c{$b}<=>$c{$a}}keys(%c)){ > print "$c{$_} $_\n"; > } > > Applied to http://www.speedcubing.com/rankings/worldrecords.html > > 11 USA > 5 Germany > 4 Finland > 3 Japan > 2 Belgium > 2 Sweden > 2 Norway > 1 Poland > 1 Czech Republic > 1 Netherlands > 1 France > 1 Israel > > Germany+Finland close behind USA :-) >
3398. How did I scramble that ?!?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 20:56:31 -0000

I just scrambled randomly while reading something, like I usually do. Then I looked at the cube and all edges and one corner are solved, the other seven corners are scrambled. Anybody else had this before? The best explanation I have is that I might have solved the edges before the scrambling and then applied an identity scrambling by unconsciously perfectly repeating some sequence and stopping exactly when reaching the initial state. I'm currently practicing my blindsolving method sighted and start with the edges, so that could be. Though, I usually do the whole solve, I don't think I'd stop after the edges and scramble... weird.
3399. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 04:50:47 -0000

The same thing happened to me like a week ago. I just took a break for 24-36 hrs and it went away. Just stretch and relax ;) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > My mom is a physical therapist and is very knowledgeable with these problems. She says you need to get exercise (especially something that can involve your arms/wrists). You also need to stretch the affected areas every day (Try different kinds of stretches and be sure you are getting all of the muscles) > > She also recommends a break from cubing, but I know you wont do that. Perhaps just cube less for a week or two. > > David > > JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. > As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. > How can I overcome this please ? > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3400. Belgian Open 2006
From: "gillesvdp" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 08:19:31 -0000

Hello everyone, As you know there is a Belgian Open in Brussels the 6 May. We have the following events : 2x2, 3x3, 3x3 BLD, 3x3 OHD, 4x4, 5x5, Clock, Magic, MasterMagic, Square-1, Megaminx and a special event in the evening : a cupe-cup. I just would like to remind you that the registration closes on 26 April. If you intend to compete, please register as soon as possible. If you have already registered, please talk to other cubers so that they will come. I'll look forward to you all at this championship. :-) Gilles.
3401. Re: [Speed cubing group] How did I scramble that ?!?
From: "FD-Rubik" <fdrubik@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:23:02 +0200

If I consult the logs of my spycam in your room, here's what you did : 1. You scrambled with (RUR'U'L')^9.L 2. the initial state was a solved cube. 3. you should stop "reading" hustler while scrambling, you loose concentration and the scrambles are poor. -- FD. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 10:56 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] How did I scramble that ?!? > I just scrambled randomly while reading something, like I usually do. > Then I looked at the cube and all edges and one corner are solved, the > other seven corners are scrambled. Anybody else had this before? > > The best explanation I have is that I might have solved the edges > before the scrambling and then applied an identity scrambling by > unconsciously perfectly repeating some sequence and stopping exactly > when reaching the initial state. I'm currently practicing my > blindsolving method sighted and start with the edges, so that could > be. Though, I usually do the whole solve, I don't think I'd stop after > the edges and scramble... weird.
3402. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 09:56:14 -0000

About two months ago, I started feeling pains in my right thumb, directly after playing with my EXTREMELY stiff Rubik's 5*5*5. It didn't go away, so I had a break from cubing for 3-4 weeks. Then I started practicing for the Swedish cube competition. I can still feel it every once in a while, but it's not as bad as it was. I usually feel it while cubing, so I don't practice as much now as I did before. After German Open I'm thinking of tkeing a break for a month or so to see if it dissappears, so I can tart training for the European Championships. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, broncoviper <no_reply@...> wrote: > > The same thing happened to me like a week ago. I just took a break > for 24-36 hrs and it went away. Just stretch and relax ;) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > My mom is a physical therapist and is very knowledgeable with > these problems. She says you need to get exercise (especially > something that can involve your arms/wrists). You also need to > stretch the affected areas every day (Try different kinds of > stretches and be sure you are getting all of the muscles) > > > > She also recommends a break from cubing, but I know you wont do > that. Perhaps just cube less for a week or two. > > > > David > > > > JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@> wrote: > > OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I > did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I > could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. > > As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not > hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. > > How can I overcome this please ? > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > low rates. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3403. Re: Belgian Open 2006
From: "Koen Heltzel" <allyourbase@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 10:25:44 -0000

I'm thinking about going to the Belgian open, also because I can't make it to the German Open (again...). The only problem I have is I have to be back at home saturday night because of a concert sunday. - Koen --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "gillesvdp" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > As you know there is a Belgian Open in Brussels the 6 May. > > We have the following events : 2x2, 3x3, 3x3 BLD, 3x3 OHD, 4x4, 5x5, > Clock, Magic, MasterMagic, Square-1, Megaminx and a special event in > the evening : a cupe-cup. > > I just would like to remind you that the registration closes on 26 April. > > If you intend to compete, please register as soon as possible. > If you have already registered, please talk to other cubers so that > they will come. > > I'll look forward to you all at this championship. :-) > > Gilles. >
3404. Re: Country WRs
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:37:20 -0000

Wow, the UK sucks record-wise. Thank god for our good looks. ;) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Yet another useless statistic I was curios about... wrote this program > since I'm too lazy to count and because I just like Perl hacks like > that: > > map{$c{$2}++ if /(<td>(.*?)<\/td>){4}/}<>; > for(sort{$c{$b}<=>$c{$a}}keys(%c)){ > print "$c{$_} $_\n"; > } > > Applied to http://www.speedcubing.com/rankings/worldrecords.html > > 11 USA > 5 Germany > 4 Finland > 3 Japan > 2 Belgium > 2 Sweden > 2 Norway > 1 Poland > 1 Czech Republic > 1 Netherlands > 1 France > 1 Israel > > Germany+Finland close behind USA :-) >
3405. Re: How did I scramble that ?!?
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 11:38:34 -0000

I've had similar things before. But i usually have all corners solved instead, as I scramble with a lot fo slice moves. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I just scrambled randomly while reading something, like I usually do. > Then I looked at the cube and all edges and one corner are solved, the > other seven corners are scrambled. Anybody else had this before? > > The best explanation I have is that I might have solved the edges > before the scrambling and then applied an identity scrambling by > unconsciously perfectly repeating some sequence and stopping exactly > when reaching the initial state. I'm currently practicing my > blindsolving method sighted and start with the edges, so that could > be. Though, I usually do the whole solve, I don't think I'd stop after > the edges and scramble... weird. >
3406. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Country WRs
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:08:13 +0100

Hey Thom - but we used to hold two in the 80s and 90s :) Maybe we weren't so good looking then! Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Country WRs > Wow, the UK sucks record-wise. > > Thank god for our good looks. ;) > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> Yet another useless statistic I was curios about... wrote this program >> since I'm too lazy to count and because I just like Perl hacks like >> that: >> >> map{$c{$2}++ if /(<td>(.*?)<\/td>){4}/}<>; >> for(sort{$c{$b}<=>$c{$a}}keys(%c)){ >> print "$c{$_} $_\n"; >> } >> >> Applied to http://www.speedcubing.com/rankings/worldrecords.html >> >> 11 USA >> 5 Germany >> 4 Finland >> 3 Japan >> 2 Belgium >> 2 Sweden >> 2 Norway >> 1 Poland >> 1 Czech Republic >> 1 Netherlands >> 1 France >> 1 Israel >> >> Germany+Finland close behind USA :-) >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
3407. [Speed cubing group] Re: Country WRs
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 13:26:19 -0000

We were, everyone else just got uglyer :P ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...> wrote: > > Hey Thom - but we used to hold two in the 80s and 90s :) > Maybe we weren't so good looking then! > Duncan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> > To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:37 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Country WRs > > > > Wow, the UK sucks record-wise. > > > > Thank god for our good looks. ;) > > > > ~Thom > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > > <pochmann@> wrote: > >> > >> Yet another useless statistic I was curios about... wrote this program > >> since I'm too lazy to count and because I just like Perl hacks like > >> that: > >> > >> map{$c{$2}++ if /(<td>(.*?)<\/td>){4}/}<>; > >> for(sort{$c{$b}<=>$c{$a}}keys(%c)){ > >> print "$c{$_} $_\n"; > >> } > >> > >> Applied to http://www.speedcubing.com/rankings/worldrecords.html > >> > >> 11 USA > >> 5 Germany > >> 4 Finland > >> 3 Japan > >> 2 Belgium > >> 2 Sweden > >> 2 Norway > >> 1 Poland > >> 1 Czech Republic > >> 1 Netherlands > >> 1 France > >> 1 Israel > >> > >> Germany+Finland close behind USA :-) > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3408. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Country WRs
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 14:43:55 +0100 (BST)

Where is India ? No one so far!!! Perhaps, UK & India are good in CRICKET atleast. J.Bernett Orlando Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: Hey Thom - but we used to hold two in the 80s and 90s :) Maybe we weren't so good looking then! Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Country WRs > Wow, the UK sucks record-wise. > > Thank god for our good looks. ;) > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@...> wrote: >> >> Yet another useless statistic I was curios about... wrote this program >> since I'm too lazy to count and because I just like Perl hacks like >> that: >> >> map{$c{$2}++ if /(<td>(.*?)<\/td>){4}/}<>; >> for(sort{$c{$b}<=>$c{$a}}keys(%c)){ >> print "$c{$_} $_\n"; >> } >> >> Applied to http://www.speedcubing.com/rankings/worldrecords.html >> >> 11 USA >> 5 Germany >> 4 Finland >> 3 Japan >> 2 Belgium >> 2 Sweden >> 2 Norway >> 1 Poland >> 1 Czech Republic >> 1 Netherlands >> 1 France >> 1 Israel >> >> Germany+Finland close behind USA :-) >> > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3409. Harvey Mudd
From: "Evan" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 14:44:47 -0000

Hey, if there are any cubers at Harvey Mudd, I'm going to be there today and tomorrow (April 9-10). I'm going to the admitted student thing and doing the overnighter in someone's dorm. Hopefully I'll be able to check email to I get any responses, so let me know. -Evan Until next time, Happy Cubing http://www.deepcube.net
3410. Re: [Speed cubing group] Harvey Mudd
From: "Evan Gates" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 08:06:41 -0700

One more thing, I'll be wearing a bright orange US Rubik's Cube Championships 2004 shirt. -Evan On 4/9/06, Evan <evan.gates@...> wrote: > > Hey, if there are any cubers at Harvey Mudd, I'm going to be there > today and tomorrow (April 9-10). I'm going to the admitted student > thing and doing the overnighter in someone's dorm. Hopefully I'll be > able to check email to I get any responses, so let me know. > > -Evan > > Until next time, Happy Cubing > http://www.deepcube.net > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3411. New average record
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 16:04:18 -0000

11.37 LC (11.31) 12.69 13.19 15.05 11.53 14.55 13.30 13.18 13.02 12.42 (18.51) => 13.03 Five days ago my best average was 14.17 seconds.. I probably averaged 8 seconds or even less for F2L.
3412. Re: [Speed cubing group] New average record
From: "FD-Rubik" <fdrubik@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 20:23:53 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] New average record > 11.37 LC (11.31) 12.69 13.19 15.05 11.53 14.55 13.30 13.18 13.02 12.42 > (18.51) => 13.03 > Five days ago my best average was 14.17 seconds.. > I probably averaged 8 seconds or even less for F2L. Congrats. All you have to do now is to be the first below 12. If your progression is linear, that'll be before next sunday. Good luck. -- FD.
3413. Re: [Speed cubing group] How did I scramble that ?!?
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2006 20:25:01 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "FD-Rubik" <fdrubik@... > wrote: > > If I consult the logs of my spycam in your room, here's > what you did : > 1. You scrambled with (RUR'U'L')^9.L > 2. the initial state was a solved cube. Right... apart from the camera, that's the much better explanation. Now I feel a bit stupid :-) > 3. you should stop "reading" hustler while scrambling, > you loose concentration and the scrambles are poor. Ok, in the future I'll print computer generated scrambles on its pages and use those.
3414. Rutgers spring 2006
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:56:50 -0000

I was wondering if anyone knows if there will be a rutgers spring competition. If so does anyone have any details Thanks
3415. Re: Rutgers spring 2006
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 01:14:07 -0000

Last I talked to Bob, it will be near the end of April, not sure when though. Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone knows if there will be a rutgers spring > competition. If so does anyone have any details > > Thanks >
3416. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 10:35:30 -0000

Peter Jansen's case 16-1 + U2 --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > (And another Clarity at http://rapidshare. > de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html ) > > All those videos give me the impression there was always just one > person solving at a time. Is that correct? > > Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The ending > looks sweet. >
3417. Re: Anssi's world record on video
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:43:51 -0000

Ah, ok... thanks. I already thought you ended with R' U R U' but the U2 ending explains even better why the right hand seems to be done much earlier than the left. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > Peter Jansen's case 16-1 + U2 > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. > > wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > (And another Clarity at http://rapidshare. > > de/files/17063002/Arsmotes_tavling.zip.html ) > > > > All those videos give me the impression there was always just one > > person solving at a time. Is that correct? > > > > Anssi, can you tell the PLL algorithm of your 14.08 solve? The > ending > > looks sweet. > > >
3418. Cubing in Paris
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:04:08 -0000

In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting places. For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... Gilles.
3419. starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:13:03 -0000

I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and stopping the timer. http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's *NOT* done". Cheers! Stefan
3420. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:29:01 +0200

Hi Stefan, The intention of the regulations (stopping with fingers) is that you cannot manipulate the puzzle when you use your fingers to stop the timer. If you use your palms you can (un)intentionally cheat. Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Stefan Pochmann To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and stopping the timer. http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's *NOT* done". Cheers! Stefan SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3421. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:43:49 +0200

And in the whole Paris, nothing for 3x3x3ing!? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilles Roux To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting places. For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... Gilles. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3422. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:08:12 -0000

Hey everyone, Ok I have a question about this now. I just got back from the sport stacking world championships and they allow their competitors to start and stop the timer anywhere above the wrist. You can use palms, fingers, palm on one hand and fingers and the other etc. Why do we even have this rule anyway? I can't think of the logic behind it. Even being able to start the timer with your palms for sport stacking has your hands closer to the cups than if you start with fingers but they allow it and it is totally fine. So why do we have to start and stop with our fingers? To be honest this doesn't make sense to me. I can understand how this might be an issue for the magic, but then again sport stacking is just like doing the magic (do the same thing every time) and if they allow it why don't we? How is it cheating for us and not for them? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and > stopping the timer. > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html > > We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I > noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it > completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html > > Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's > *NOT* done". > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3423. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:13:28 -0000

I didn't see this post by Ron before posting my other one, but I still have more comments. There was a competitior at the sport stacking championships who had his fingers touching the last stack of cups each time he stopped the timer with his palms. The judges noticed this each time he did it and disqualified those attempts. Having seen that they can handle it, why can't we train our judges to notice if the cuber uses their fingers to manipulate the cubes as they stop the timer? Seriously, if their sport is much harder to judge than ours (it really is, by far) then why can't we also train our judges to allow competitors to stop above the wrist and just watch for if they touch the cube as they stop? I really do not like the stop with the figners rule at all. Having seen that even sport stacking competitions don't this rule (much more ability to "cheat" by our definition), then really why do we have the rule at all for us? I really want to campaign for us to get rid of this rule. Sorry to be a pain, but I feel very strongly about this issue now. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > The intention of the regulations (stopping with fingers) is that you cannot manipulate the puzzle when you use your fingers to stop the timer. > If you use your palms you can (un)intentionally cheat. > > Have fun, > > Ron
3424. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:14:11 -0000

Yeah I would think the rule about not being able to touch both the timer and puzzle at the same time covers the issue. Although if someone were skilled enough I guess they could squeak an extra half- twist in without the judge noticing. I always use my fingers on the pads anyway-- seems more natural. Plus it makes better contact so you get fewer false starts/stops. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Ok I have a question about this now. I just got back from the sport > stacking world championships and they allow their competitors to start > and stop the timer anywhere above the wrist. You can use palms, > fingers, palm on one hand and fingers and the other etc. > > Why do we even have this rule anyway? I can't think of the logic > behind it. Even being able to start the timer with your palms for > sport stacking has your hands closer to the cups than if you start > with fingers but they allow it and it is totally fine. > > So why do we have to start and stop with our fingers? To be honest > this doesn't make sense to me. > > I can understand how this might be an issue for the magic, but then > again sport stacking is just like doing the magic (do the same thing > every time) and if they allow it why don't we? How is it cheating for > us and not for them? > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and > > stopping the timer. > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html > > > > We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I > > noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it > > completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) > > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html > > > > Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's > > *NOT* done". > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
3425. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:23:44 -0000

For unofficial purposes, I don't follow WCA regulations, but I do follow the UWR rules. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and > stopping the timer. > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html > > We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I > noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it > completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html > > Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's > *NOT* done". > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3426. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 11:26:21 -0700 (PDT)

i'm on board with chris here, i think that finding a good way to stop the timer, as well as getting to puzzle quickly is all part of the strategy for the magic. obviously the palms are closer to the timer so it just makes sense to use them. i think that it is totally feasible (especially with magic) for the judges to be able to see if a competitior is touching the puzzle and the timer at the same time. now if we can just get downi what a true DNF is we will be all set. :) ----- Original Message ---- From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:13:28 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer I didn't see this post by Ron before posting my other one, but I still have more comments. There was a competitior at the sport stacking championships who had his fingers touching the last stack of cups each time he stopped the timer with his palms. The judges noticed this each time he did it and disqualified those attempts. Having seen that they can handle it, why can't we train our judges to notice if the cuber uses their fingers to manipulate the cubes as they stop the timer? Seriously, if their sport is much harder to judge than ours (it really is, by far) then why can't we also train our judges to allow competitors to stop above the wrist and just watch for if they touch the cube as they stop? I really do not like the stop with the figners rule at all. Having seen that even sport stacking competitions don't this rule (much more ability to "cheat" by our definition), then really why do we have the rule at all for us? I really want to campaign for us to get rid of this rule. Sorry to be a pain, but I feel very strongly about this issue now. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > The intention of the regulations (stopping with fingers) is that you cannot manipulate the puzzle when you use your fingers to stop the timer. > If you use your palms you can (un)intentionally cheat. > > Have fun, > > Ron YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3427. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:26:52 -0000

Hey everyone, Here is a scenario I want you to follow with me. A person walks up to the timer, does a successful solve but stops the timer with their palms. They do not touch the cube as they stop the timer. This person's time should be a DNF and thrown out. They did not successfully solve their cube by competitions standards. They picked up and solve their cube successfully instead of picking up and solving their cube "successfully". How can that make sense? Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? As much work as it takes to train a judge to look for our current rule, you could easily train them to look for whether they touched the cube as they stopped the timer with their palms or fingers or whatever. Imagine the future for cubing. Some day when our sport takes off we could possibly be filmed for TV (maybe ESPN2 will film us one day). So now while ESPN if filming someone solve their cube in an awesome 12.xx seconds on camera, clearly solved (no +2 penalty) and the audience goes crazy after seeing the clearly good solve and the fast time. Then the judge throws out the solve because the right hand was touching the timer with the top part of the palm. How can we ever convince anyone that that is not a successful solve of a Rubik's cube? This rule hinders the future of our sport's credibility. Take this rule to its conclusion in the future. You could easily have the world record solve filmed by a TV company be thrown out because the right hand touhed the timer pad with the upper part of the palm. And by this rule that solve had *better* be a DNF, since if you count it you undermine the credibility of *all* our records. Upper part of the palm is not the same as fingers, so if that person's time is not thrown out as a DNF then we are not a consistent sport and don't deserve to be filmed. See what I mean about this rule? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Yeah I would think the rule about not being able to touch both the > timer and puzzle at the same time covers the issue. Although if > someone were skilled enough I guess they could squeak an extra half- > twist in without the judge noticing. I always use my fingers on the > pads anyway-- seems more natural. Plus it makes better contact so > you get fewer false starts/stops. > > Chris
3428. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:29:26 -0000

I kinda agree with you, Chris... As long as the competitor is not touching the puzzle before the timer started, and after it stopped, I also don't see any problems... - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I didn't see this post by Ron before posting my other one, but I still > have more comments. > > There was a competitior at the sport stacking championships who had > his fingers touching the last stack of cups each time he stopped the > timer with his palms. The judges noticed this each time he did it and > disqualified those attempts. > > Having seen that they can handle it, why can't we train our judges to > notice if the cuber uses their fingers to manipulate the cubes as they > stop the timer? > > Seriously, if their sport is much harder to judge than ours (it really > is, by far) then why can't we also train our judges to allow > competitors to stop above the wrist and just watch for if they touch > the cube as they stop? > > I really do not like the stop with the figners rule at all. Having > seen that even sport stacking competitions don't this rule (much more > ability to "cheat" by our definition), then really why do we have the > rule at all for us? I really want to campaign for us to get rid of > this rule. > > Sorry to be a pain, but I feel very strongly about this issue now. > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" > <ron@> wrote: > > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > The intention of the regulations (stopping with fingers) is that you > cannot manipulate the puzzle when you use your fingers to stop the > timer. > > If you use your palms you can (un)intentionally cheat. > > > > Have fun, > > > > Ron >
3429. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:04:44 -0000

Hi Ron, no need to tell me, *I* know this... I hope you didn't think I'm against it. I'm somewhat neutral here, seeing reasons both for and against it. I just noticed some people don't follow it and wanted to get the rule some attention (it worked :-) so we can do something about this. Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Hi Stefan, > > The intention of the regulations (stopping with fingers) is that you cannot manipulate the puzzle when you use your fingers to stop the timer. > If you use your palms you can (un)intentionally cheat. > > Have fun, > > Ron > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stefan Pochmann > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:13 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] starting/stopping the timer > > > I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and > stopping the timer. > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html > > We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I > noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it > completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html > > Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's > *NOT* done". > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3430. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:13:04 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this > rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever > competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? That's an easy one to answer: Because sadly neither you nor your judges knew or cared about the rule. Which is my main point. Stefan P.S. Does your confession mean I'll get my BLD5x5 record back? ;-)
3431. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:19:16 -0700

Just to be clear, what about the start of a competition? Are you upset about the rule for that as well? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> > wrote: >> >> Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this >> rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever >> competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? > > That's an easy one to answer: > > Because sadly neither you nor your judges knew or cared about the > rule. Which is my main point. > > Stefan > > P.S. Does your confession mean I'll get my BLD5x5 record back? ;-) > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3432. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:33:55 -0000

> > Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this > > rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever > > competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? > > That's an easy one to answer: > > Because sadly neither you nor your judges knew or cared about the > rule. Which is my main point. I think it is good that we are dicussing this rule, because I do agree, having a rule on the books that is not being enforced is not a good thing. I think we should either 1) train judges to notice whether or not the competitor uses their fingers to stop the timer on both hands and enforce all DNF disqualifications on solves where they use their palms with *either* hand or both. or 2) Allow the competitiors to stop the timer above the wrist, same as for sport stacing, and train the judges to notice whether or not the competitor is touching the puzzle when the time stops. I really could not be more against option 1 than I am right now. If that is the direction we go in then I think it will change our sport in a very weird direction. Think of the implications for future TV events or for documentaries even. The biggest problem I see with option 1 is a judge who is not well trained. If they have a world class competitor come up and the world class competitor actually *does* stop the timer with the upper part of their palm on their right hand and the judge throws out the solve don't you think the competitor could easily intimidate the judge by yelling or getting very angry at them? Maybe the next time the judge wouldn't even call out the competitor even if the competitor did cheat and use their palm. Also what if a judge who is not very competent disqualifies a good solve that was very close (lower part of the fingers but not the upper palm). For close calls like this the WSSA has a video review option since they film all solves in the final rounds. I'll say this, I will stop campaigning for the fingers rule to be removed if we also film all solves for every competitor in the final round. Spotting something like this is very difficult, and even a judge who is competent could still make mistakes in enforcing this. If we include video review and filming of all solves in a final round I think the fingers rule will be ok, albeit very very weird in my own personal opinion. If we do not include the option to video review a solve that is questionable then I will be very vocal and adamamantly against the enforcement of the fingers only stop rule. What if the judge was paid off by another competitor to disqualify a high level competitor who has a shot to win the competition? How could we protect against this without video evidence to show that the judge was in fact lying? Chris > > Stefan > > P.S. Does your confession mean I'll get my BLD5x5 record back? ;-) > ****P.S. response***** That wasn't on a stackmat though. So I guess, so far, that solve is my only non-DNF solve since 2003 ;-)
3433. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:46:17 -0000

Hey Tyson, If you are referring to the start of a solve then yes I also think that is a bit weird to require a fingers only start. My question is, what are we trying to prevent by enforcing that? For sport stacking their times are done by repetition of the same sequence, so starting with palms on the timer has your fingers closer to the first stack of cups. And you had better start with palms on the timer in a competition if you hope to get the best time you can get. I didn't see a single person start with their fingers on the timer in any of the higher age divisions, you hurt yourself to do that since your hand has to travel further to reach the cups. Some people did use the middle of their hands, sort of half palm and half fingers, but I didn't see anyone choose to use a fingers only start. Now if you started with your palms on the timer and your fingers were already touching the cups your judge would be very unhappy with you and would force you to stop if you had already started the stacking sequence or would not allow you to start if you had not yet started. I'm asking, what are we preventing by making people start with their fingers on the pads? I mean standardizing the start is one reason I've heard. But do we enforce this rule fully? How far can the competitors push this? What if I start the timer with the lower part of my fingers all the time? Should the judge DNF my solve if I accidently had part of my upper palm touching the timer pad as I started? If so then I would be unhappy if judges didn't keep their head level with the timer pads to make sure competitiors follow this. I just wonder that if we keep this rule we make it harder for the judges to judge our solves than the sport stackers do. If by our definition they are cheating (their fingers are too close to the cups before they start, that's what I here is cheating for us) then why does every single cup stacker start that way? Is it cheating if everyone does it? Maybe I'm not wording this well, but I really don't understand this rule. Why is it in place at all? Or more appropriately what situation occured at tournaments or in the planning of tournaments that this rule was brought up and implimented? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Just to be clear, what about the start of a competition? Are you upset > about the rule for that as well? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology
3434. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:47:40 -0700

Chris... What's to prevent anyone from paying me off? There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA delegate at the competition that he/she is making sure the competition abides by all rules and is run honestly. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:33 PM, cmhardw wrote: >>> Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this >>> rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever >>> competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? >> >> That's an easy one to answer: >> >> Because sadly neither you nor your judges knew or cared about the >> rule. Which is my main point. > > I think it is good that we are dicussing this rule, because I do > agree, having a rule on the books that is not being enforced is not a > good thing. > > I think we should either > 1) train judges to notice whether or not the competitor uses their > fingers to stop the timer on both hands and enforce all DNF > disqualifications on solves where they use their palms with *either* > hand or both. > > or > > 2) Allow the competitiors to stop the timer above the wrist, same as > for sport stacing, and train the judges to notice whether or not the > competitor is touching the puzzle when the time stops. > > I really could not be more against option 1 than I am right now. If > that is the direction we go in then I think it will change our sport > in a very weird direction. Think of the implications for future TV > events or for documentaries even. > > The biggest problem I see with option 1 is a judge who is not well > trained. If they have a world class competitor come up and the world > class competitor actually *does* stop the timer with the upper part of > their palm on their right hand and the judge throws out the solve > don't you think the competitor could easily intimidate the judge by > yelling or getting very angry at them? Maybe the next time the judge > wouldn't even call out the competitor even if the competitor did cheat > and use their palm. > > Also what if a judge who is not very competent disqualifies a good > solve that was very close (lower part of the fingers but not the upper > palm). For close calls like this the WSSA has a video review option > since they film all solves in the final rounds. > > I'll say this, I will stop campaigning for the fingers rule to be > removed if we also film all solves for every competitor in the final > round. Spotting something like this is very difficult, and even a > judge who is competent could still make mistakes in enforcing this. > > If we include video review and filming of all solves in a final round > I think the fingers rule will be ok, albeit very very weird in my own > personal opinion. > > If we do not include the option to video review a solve that is > questionable then I will be very vocal and adamamantly against the > enforcement of the fingers only stop rule. What if the judge was paid > off by another competitor to disqualify a high level competitor who > has a shot to win the competition? How could we protect against this > without video evidence to show that the judge was in fact lying? > > Chris > >> >> Stefan >> >> P.S. Does your confession mean I'll get my BLD5x5 record back? ;-) >> > > ****P.S. response***** > > That wasn't on a stackmat though. So I guess, so far, that solve is > my only non-DNF solve since 2003 ;-) > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3435. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:50:48 -0700

The spirit of the rule is that the hands are completely flat on the timing pad so that the puzzle cannot be manipulated at all before the timer is started. This is why I think Generation 2 timers are a problem. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:46 PM, cmhardw wrote: > Hey Tyson, > > If you are referring to the start of a solve then yes I also think > that is a bit weird to require a fingers only start. > > My question is, what are we trying to prevent by enforcing that? > > For sport stacking their times are done by repetition of the same > sequence, so starting with palms on the timer has your fingers > closer to the first stack of cups. And you had better start with > palms on the timer in a competition if you hope to get the best time > you can get. I didn't see a single person start with their fingers > on the timer in any of the higher age divisions, you hurt yourself > to do that since your hand has to travel further to reach the cups. > Some people did use the middle of their hands, sort of half palm and > half fingers, but I didn't see anyone choose to use a fingers only > start. > > Now if you started with your palms on the timer and your fingers > were already touching the cups your judge would be very unhappy with > you and would force you to stop if you had already started the > stacking sequence or would not allow you to start if you had not yet > started. > > I'm asking, what are we preventing by making people start with their > fingers on the pads? I mean standardizing the start is one reason > I've heard. But do we enforce this rule fully? How far can the > competitors push this? What if I start the timer with the lower > part of my fingers all the time? Should the judge DNF my solve if I > accidently had part of my upper palm touching the timer pad as I > started? If so then I would be unhappy if judges didn't keep their > head level with the timer pads to make sure competitiors follow this. > > I just wonder that if we keep this rule we make it harder for the > judges to judge our solves than the sport stackers do. If by our > definition they are cheating (their fingers are too close to the > cups before they start, that's what I here is cheating for us) then > why does every single cup stacker start that way? Is it cheating if > everyone does it? > > Maybe I'm not wording this well, but I really don't understand this > rule. Why is it in place at all? Or more appropriately what > situation occured at tournaments or in the planning of tournaments > that this rule was brought up and implimented? > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Just to be clear, what about the start of a competition? Are you > upset >> about the rule for that as well? >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3436. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 12:48:56 -0700

We are trying to prevent people from touching the puzzle before the timer starts. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:46 PM, cmhardw wrote: > My question is, what are we trying to prevent by enforcing that?
3437. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:58:13 -0000

So DQ the solve if they touch the puzzle before the timer starts. Have the judge watch for that. I guess I don't see why doing that instead is a bad thing, that seems like in the long run it would require less training than watching exactly where the competitor's palm is resting so as to not be on the timer pads. You watch the puzzle (1 thing) rather than both palms (two things spread apart). Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > We are trying to prevent people from touching the puzzle before the > timer starts. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:46 PM, cmhardw wrote: > > > My question is, what are we trying to prevent by enforcing that? >
3438. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:56:03 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Chris... > > What's to prevent anyone from paying me off? There needs to be trust > in the role of the WCA delegate at the competition that he/she is > making sure the competition abides by all rules and is run honestly. > That's very true, paying someone off is a long stretch (I meant it to be) but does exist as a problem in all aspects of a competition. But, the delegate can't disqualify two of the 5 solves of a competitor's final round attempts because they want to. A judge who wanted to by the fingers only stop rule could call 2 of Macky's or Leyan's 5 solves in the final a false palm stop and they would be disqualified. What's worse is there there would be no video evidence to refute the judge's word. Think of cubing 10 years down the line, what if the #2 competitior paid off the judges to disqualify the #1 competitor via false stops? There's no video evidence to say the judge is not lying... That far fetched but still possible situation sucks in my opinion. How can we get around this situation if the fingers only rule is a good one to keep? My suggestion I think does it well enough, video tape all final round solves. The downside to this is that a new world record solve set in the first or second round doesn't count (same as for sport stacking, an official world record has to be captured on video). But that downside is better than disqualifying someone who is fast just because you want to (were paid off or whatever). Why not just allow people to start and stop up to the wrist? We've modeled ourselves after sport stacking in the past, why are we changing this one particular rule when the nature of our events are similar (do something with the hands as fast as possible). Chris
3439. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:55:30 +0200

Hi Chris, I see two different situations: 1) competitor stops timer with palms while still doing moves 2) competitor stops timer with palms without still doing moves In the first case I would give a DNF. In the second case I would give a warning first, and would give a DNF later in the competition for that competitor. This is what I have done, even at WC 2005. Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop with your palms. But it isn't. Even with the best training situation 1 is hard to detect. Just remember the video of the former Rubik's Magic record. I really do not want video analysis. At least not until we really need it. I think having two degrees is still the best. In case of small doubt (palms only) you can give a warning first, in case of serious doubt (palms and possible movements) you can DNF immediately. Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: cmhardw To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer Hey everyone, Here is a scenario I want you to follow with me. A person walks up to the timer, does a successful solve but stops the timer with their palms. They do not touch the cube as they stop the timer. This person's time should be a DNF and thrown out. They did not successfully solve their cube by competitions standards. They picked up and solve their cube successfully instead of picking up and solving their cube "successfully". How can that make sense? Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? As much work as it takes to train a judge to look for our current rule, you could easily train them to look for whether they touched the cube as they stopped the timer with their palms or fingers or whatever. Imagine the future for cubing. Some day when our sport takes off we could possibly be filmed for TV (maybe ESPN2 will film us one day). So now while ESPN if filming someone solve their cube in an awesome 12.xx seconds on camera, clearly solved (no +2 penalty) and the audience goes crazy after seeing the clearly good solve and the fast time. Then the judge throws out the solve because the right hand was touching the timer with the top part of the palm. How can we ever convince anyone that that is not a successful solve of a Rubik's cube? This rule hinders the future of our sport's credibility. Take this rule to its conclusion in the future. You could easily have the world record solve filmed by a TV company be thrown out because the right hand touhed the timer pad with the upper part of the palm. And by this rule that solve had *better* be a DNF, since if you count it you undermine the credibility of *all* our records. Upper part of the palm is not the same as fingers, so if that person's time is not thrown out as a DNF then we are not a consistent sport and don't deserve to be filmed. See what I mean about this rule? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Yeah I would think the rule about not being able to touch both the > timer and puzzle at the same time covers the issue. Although if > someone were skilled enough I guess they could squeak an extra half- > twist in without the judge noticing. I always use my fingers on the > pads anyway-- seems more natural. Plus it makes better contact so > you get fewer false starts/stops. > > Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3440. New Here :-)
From: "johnadams182" <johnadams182@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:58:36 -0000

Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not that good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, one of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. Wish I could do that! -John http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/
3441. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:58:49 -0700 (PDT)

yeah the start especially is easy to govern, in all of these cases i believe it is easier to watch for touching of the puzzle before/after the solve, then trying to see where the hands are on timer. there have to be better ways to regulate this then by stiffling the technique. i should be able to get as close as possible while still having the timer set as long as i'm not touching the puzzle, and i should be able to stop the timer with my palms as long as i have finished the final transform. ----- Original Message ---- From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 12:58:13 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer So DQ the solve if they touch the puzzle before the timer starts. Have the judge watch for that. I guess I don't see why doing that instead is a bad thing, that seems like in the long run it would require less training than watching exactly where the competitor's palm is resting so as to not be on the timer pads. You watch the puzzle (1 thing) rather than both palms (two things spread apart). Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > We are trying to prevent people from touching the puzzle before the > timer starts. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:46 PM, cmhardw wrote: > > > My question is, what are we trying to prevent by enforcing that? > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3442. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:02:02 +0200

Hi Chris, I just read your report on the sport stacking world championship. Great stuff! A difference I see is that stacking is done with your hands, whereas cubing can be done with fingers. The movements are much wider and bigger than in speedcubing. Also the end position of speedstacks is better defined (standing stacks) than in speedcubing (just thrown down your puzzle). This IMHO makes it harder in speedcubing to detect movements while stopping the timer. Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: cmhardw To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer Hey everyone, Ok I have a question about this now. I just got back from the sport stacking world championships and they allow their competitors to start and stop the timer anywhere above the wrist. You can use palms, fingers, palm on one hand and fingers and the other etc. Why do we even have this rule anyway? I can't think of the logic behind it. Even being able to start the timer with your palms for sport stacking has your hands closer to the cups than if you start with fingers but they allow it and it is totally fine. So why do we have to start and stop with our fingers? To be honest this doesn't make sense to me. I can understand how this might be an issue for the magic, but then again sport stacking is just like doing the magic (do the same thing every time) and if they allow it why don't we? How is it cheating for us and not for them? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and > stopping the timer. > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html > > We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I > noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it > completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html > > Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's > *NOT* done". > > Cheers! > Stefan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3443. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:01:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Chris... > > What's to prevent anyone from paying me off? That depends... What do you charge? <evil grin> Chris
3444. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:03:55 -0700 (PDT)

Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop with your palms. But it isn't. Even with the best training situation 1 is hard to detect. Just remember the video of the former Rubik's Magic record. maybe it is a little difficult to detect, but it's not fair for the great magicers to hinder their times, because its not easy for judges. also i dont' see how you could stop the timer and still be doing moves without it being pretty obvious. has this rule ever been brought up for a vote? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3445. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Ron" <ron@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:10:42 -0000

Hi Clancy, I like it when you say "hinder". :-) "Not easy for judges" is your interpretation. I would have said "More fair to competitors". If we want the times to go down, then we could always start with the Magic in the hand and the palms on the timer. No, this has never been brought up for a vote, because there has never been a vote at all. Everyone was asked to give feedback on the regulations several times in the past. As far as I know noone has ever given feedback on this regulation. Last feedback round was in January 2006. Have fun, Ron --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop with your palms. > But it isn't. Even with the best training situation 1 is hard to detect. > Just remember the video of the former Rubik's Magic record. > > > maybe it is a little difficult to detect, but it's not fair for the great magicers to hinder their times, because its not easy for judges. also i dont' see how you could stop the timer and still be doing moves without it being pretty obvious. has this rule ever been brought up for a vote? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3446. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT)

yes but that cross the fine line between touching it and not touching it. the magic is currently a competition that involves picking it up, transforming it, then setting it down and stopping the timer. actually think that it is very easy for judges to see actually, as well as if there is any fumbling at the end, the magic is such a fast puzzle it should be no problem for the judges to see anything that is unfair and maintain concentraition for the couple seconds it takes. maybe we should cut everyones fingers down so everyone has the same length and there is no advantage for anyone. hopefully there will be a feedback session soon, so we can take a group vote or something to find out what the masses think is fair and best. any other top magicers have an opinions on this? (especially if you are for the rule, in case there is something i'm not seeing in previous posts supporting the rule) ----- Original Message ---- From: Ron <ron@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:10:42 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer Hi Clancy, I like it when you say "hinder". :-) "Not easy for judges" is your interpretation. I would have said "More fair to competitors". If we want the times to go down, then we could always start with the Magic in the hand and the palms on the timer. No, this has never been brought up for a vote, because there has never been a vote at all. Everyone was asked to give feedback on the regulations several times in the past. As far as I know noone has ever given feedback on this regulation. Last feedback round was in January 2006. Have fun, Ron --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop with your palms. > But it isn't. Even with the best training situation 1 is hard to detect. > Just remember the video of the former Rubik's Magic record. > > > maybe it is a little difficult to detect, but it's not fair for the great magicers to hinder their times, because its not easy for judges. also i dont' see how you could stop the timer and still be doing moves without it being pretty obvious. has this rule ever been brought up for a vote? > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3447. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:22:08 -0000

Hey Ron, I agree that differentiating situation 1 from situation 2 is hard, but I think we overestimate how hard that would be. The judges at the sport stacking event had to watch for corrected fumbles during a 7-8 second cycle. *THAT* is hard (trust me I know, I had to be trained to do it too). Despite the difficulty they still trust judges to do it since they are rigorously trained. If you up stack your 3 then your 6 then your 3 and the top cup of the 6 pyramid falls off, the judge has to determine whether or not the last 3 pyramid was up stacked or not (if not then it's a fumble and has to be fixed, and if the 3 was finished then it's a clean stack still). When someone does the cycle in 7 seconds, this particular situation can all happen in less than 0.10 second. I think having the judge visually spot whether or not a move is being done on the cube as the timer is stopped would be no different than determining if a fumble occurs in the transition from the 3-6-3 into the 6-6 (the spot where fumbles are hardest to catch). I wish I could let you guys have seen what this event was like. Compared to our judges, sport stacking judges are much more qualified and have so many more responsibilities. I think we're so used to the judge not really having to do anything, that the idea of having the judge spot a complicated situation seems too far fetched, but I assure you they can do it with some training beforehand. I still think if a sport stacking judge can spot a fumnle in the 3-6-3 into the 6-6 transition during the cycle, then spotting a move done on the cube as the timer stops would easily be manageable by a cubing judge as well. We just need to train them that their role does not stop after the person starts solving, they must stay focused on the cube until the point where it is put down and the timer is stopped. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I see two different situations: > 1) competitor stops timer with palms while still doing moves > 2) competitor stops timer with palms without still doing moves > > In the first case I would give a DNF. > In the second case I would give a warning first, and would give a DNF later in the competition for that competitor. > This is what I have done, even at WC 2005. > > Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop with your palms. > But it isn't. Even with the best training situation 1 is hard to detect. > Just remember the video of the former Rubik's Magic record. > > I really do not want video analysis. At least not until we really need it. > > I think having two degrees is still the best. > In case of small doubt (palms only) you can give a warning first, in case of serious doubt (palms and possible movements) you can DNF immediately. > > Have fun, > > Ron
3448. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:28:56 -0000

I'm not upset about any rule. (Or did you mean Chris? You replied to *my* message...) Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Just to be clear, what about the start of a competition? Are you upset > about the rule for that as well? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Why have we not had a false stop DNF in a tournament yet? By this > >> rule none of my times should count for any tournament I've ever > >> competed in. So why am I still officially ranked? > > > > That's an easy one to answer: > > > > Because sadly neither you nor your judges knew or cared about the > > rule. Which is my main point. > > > > Stefan > > > > P.S. Does your confession mean I'll get my BLD5x5 record back? ;-)
3449. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:32:30 -0000

Hey Ron, I mean this as respectfully as I can, my goal here is not to be a nuisance but to really bring up an issue I think we are all facing. I see what you mean about how someone could do a U or U' trigger while their palms are still on the timer pads, but I assure you a judge could notice this. Again, please see my other post about the situation a judge faces during a fumble from the 3-6-3 into the 6-6 transition. If they can spot a fumble there in 0.10 second, I know a cubing judge could easily watch for a move done before the timer starts if they are trained to know that this is a situation they *must* watch for everyone on every solve. They train all sport stacking judges to watch the 6 pyramid and the final 3 pyramid during the 3-6-3 into the 6-6 transition to make sure they catch all the most likely fumble possibilities. Also they are farily flexible about the stacks at the end like we are. If the stacks are all wobbling and about to topple over as you stop the timer, but they come to a standing resting state on their own, that is just as clean of a run as if you stopped and they were all standing perfectly. It's just like we do it, resting state is all that matters, only for us the resting state can be on the floor and for them it has to be on the mat. I just know that a judge can be trained to see the situations that we want to avoid with the timer starts and stops, because the job of a sport stacking judge involves some very intense decisions over situations that happen very quickly. All the judges I dealt with were well trained and comfortable with making these decisions when they came up. One of the judges in the final was able to notice that one of the competitors had his finger on one of the 3 stacks during his stop in the final rounds. This is also a fast paced situation, and his decision proved to be correct based on the video analysis. I think as long as we include a stricter training regimen for judges, or a video for them to watch showing what to look for, then we can avoid the problem situations we want to avoid without having to limit all competitors by forcing them to start and stop the same way. Again I mean to disagree as respectfully as I can, but I fully disagree with how difficult it would be to have a judge watch for these situations, I think they could easily manage it *IF* we train them better than we do now. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris, > > I just read your report on the sport stacking world championship. Great stuff! > > A difference I see is that stacking is done with your hands, whereas cubing can be done with fingers. The movements are much wider and bigger than in speedcubing. > Also the end position of speedstacks is better defined (standing stacks) than in speedcubing (just thrown down your puzzle). > This IMHO makes it harder in speedcubing to detect movements while stopping the timer. > > Have fun, > > Ron
3450. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Crispy <redivre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:36:50 -0700 (PDT)

I think I agree with Chris. As long as the timer starts/stops without the competitor touching the puzzle then it shouldn't matter how they stop it. I was curious and looked at the speedstacking rules on stopping/starting and they state "The timer starts when the stacker lifts one or both hands from the touch pads and stops when the stacker places both hands back on the touch pads (Note:Starting&Stopping hand positions - A stacker may use any part of the hand(s)(from below the wrist to the fingertips) on the touchpad but may not be in contact with any cups...." I also agree with Chris that it would be very hard to prove without video of the finishes - especially in the final round. Unless there was a seasoned judge in the area that wasn't biased. Even then you'd have to have something to look at if the cuber wanted to challenge the judges decision. Hehe I like Clancy's note about chopping everyones fingers off to make it even - another idea may be (not as gruesome) is to designate a spot on the mat that all cubes have to start from - therefore it wouldn't matter if it was a fingertip or palm start/stop. Designate a square on the mat (like the square on a basketball backboard) where the cube must lie within at the start - an equal distance from the timer for everyone. On a side note: What about one handed solving? Can a competitor leave one hand on the touchpads while they cube with the other? --- Ron <ron@...> wrote: > Hi Clancy, > > I like it when you say "hinder". :-) > "Not easy for judges" is your interpretation. I > would have > said "More fair to competitors". If we want the > times to go down, > then we could always start with the Magic in the > hand and the palms > on the timer. > > No, this has never been brought up for a vote, > because there has > never been a vote at all. Everyone was asked to give > feedback on the > regulations several times in the past. As far as I > know noone has > ever given feedback on this regulation. Last > feedback round was in > January 2006. > > Have fun, > > Ron > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > > > Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop > with your palms. > > But it isn't. Even with the best training > situation 1 is hard to > detect. > > Just remember the video of the former Rubik's > Magic record. > > > > > > maybe it is a little difficult to detect, but it's > not fair for > the great magicers to hinder their times, because > its not easy for > judges. also i dont' see how you could stop the > timer and still be > doing moves without it being pretty obvious. has > this rule ever > been brought up for a vote? > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD Christy (Crispy) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3451. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:37:19 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@...> wrote: > > As far as I know noone has ever given feedback on this regulation. I think I gave "feedfront" :-). That is, been involved in the creation (or rather clarification by giving feedback on an earlier version). Cheers! Stefan
3452. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Ron" <ron@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:42:25 -0000

Hi Chris, I agree with you that in the future we should try and improve our judging. But this is a matter of time and money. I am happy that the regulations are relatively simple and that we can train our voluntary judges in a short time frame. I don't have the time and money to hire judges or professionally train judges. Judges are still human. Even after a lot of training. Mistakes are made. The regulations had better be simple. I was the judge for the former Magic world record. I am relatively well trained, and I only saw the mistake when I rewatched the video. You could criticise me for not paying enough attention. But in that case you would criticise the average judge in a competition. I think that would be overreacting to the issue we are now talking about. I do not fully agree about the fumbling. Yes, it would be great if an experienced judge would see incorrect fumbling and give a DNF. On the other hand it would be really bad if some correct fumbling would be given a DNF. My personal feeling in competitions has always been that I should be sure before I judge negatively. So I sometimes give someone the benefit of the doubt (i.e. give a warning). Anyway, everyone is free to make a good proposal for upcoming versions of the WCA regulations. Criticising is OK, coming with good proposals is better. Have fun, Ron --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey Ron, > > I agree that differentiating situation 1 from situation 2 is hard, but > I think we overestimate how hard that would be. > > The judges at the sport stacking event had to watch for corrected > fumbles during a 7-8 second cycle. *THAT* is hard (trust me I know, I > had to be trained to do it too). Despite the difficulty they still > trust judges to do it since they are rigorously trained. > > If you up stack your 3 then your 6 then your 3 and the top cup of the > 6 pyramid falls off, the judge has to determine whether or not the > last 3 pyramid was up stacked or not (if not then it's a fumble and > has to be fixed, and if the 3 was finished then it's a clean stack > still). When someone does the cycle in 7 seconds, this particular > situation can all happen in less than 0.10 second. > > I think having the judge visually spot whether or not a move is being > done on the cube as the timer is stopped would be no different than > determining if a fumble occurs in the transition from the 3-6-3 into > the 6-6 (the spot where fumbles are hardest to catch). > > I wish I could let you guys have seen what this event was like. > Compared to our judges, sport stacking judges are much more qualified > and have so many more responsibilities. I think we're so used to the > judge not really having to do anything, that the idea of having the > judge spot a complicated situation seems too far fetched, but I assure > you they can do it with some training beforehand. > > I still think if a sport stacking judge can spot a fumnle in the 3- 6-3 > into the 6-6 transition during the cycle, then spotting a move done on > the cube as the timer stops would easily be manageable by a cubing > judge as well. We just need to train them that their role does not > stop after the person starts solving, they must stay focused on the > cube until the point where it is put down and the timer is stopped. > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron van Bruchem" > <ron@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > I see two different situations: > > 1) competitor stops timer with palms while still doing moves > > 2) competitor stops timer with palms without still doing moves > > > > In the first case I would give a DNF. > > In the second case I would give a warning first, and would give a > DNF later in the competition for that competitor. > > This is what I have done, even at WC 2005. > > > > Your solution looks simple: just allow to stop with your palms. > > But it isn't. Even with the best training situation 1 is hard to detect. > > Just remember the video of the former Rubik's Magic record. > > > > I really do not want video analysis. At least not until we really > need it. > > > > I think having two degrees is still the best. > > In case of small doubt (palms only) you can give a warning first, in > case of serious doubt (palms and possible movements) you can DNF > immediately. > > > > Have fun, > > > > Ron >
3453. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:44:59 -0700

Yeah, I kind of which I could be like that too. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 1:58 PM, johnadams182 wrote: > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not that > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, one > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > Wish I could do that! > > -John > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3454. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 21:48:16 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > but it's not fair for the great magicers to hinder their times Not sure I'm still in that group, but I like the rule as it is. And actually helped making it the way it is particularly because of the magic. Using palms, I do not even trust *myself* to not cheat (unintentionally, of course). Cheers! Stefan
3455. Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Crispy <redivre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:01:28 -0700 (PDT)

It has been a while since I have read and posted here and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I see that the 2006 official records were posted. I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. The final results used to say that they were all official times but then right before the 2006 official results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as unofficial on the final results of that competition. I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not make some sort of public announcement or comment on the final results page of that competition as to why his times did not count. I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree with the final result - especially for no explanation to the general cube community. Granted those involved and the few that heard the rumors have their own opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an explanation? "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." That is an interesting comment. "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD Christy (Crispy) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3456. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:05:59 -0000

> Hehe I like Clancy's note about chopping everyones > fingers off to make it even - another idea may be (not > as gruesome) is to designate a spot on the mat that > all cubes have to start from - therefore it wouldn't > matter if it was a fingertip or palm start/stop. > Designate a square on the mat (like the square on a > basketball backboard) where the cube must lie within > at the start - an equal distance from the timer for > everyone. This I like a lot, this could really resolve a lot of issues. When starting, have a sqaure set up on the mat (marked in tape) and NO part of the hand may touch the line of the square or be inside it. You could start with palms or fingers, as long as your hand is not inside the square. When finishing you put down the cube and stop the timer any way you like. If your hand is touching the cube as you stop the timer than that solve is a DNF (same if you have a hand on the cups when you stop in stacking). This would be easy for the judges, only at the end of the solve must they watch to make sure the hands do not touch the cube as the timer stops. For the beginning, any possiblity of cheating is relieved by the start sqaure. The only thing we would have to decide is a good position of the square to accomodate both children and adults. Perhaps just a few centimeters away from the actual timer itself and in the center? This means that most likely you would have to start with fingers anyway, but if you can wrap your hands around the square as long as you are not within the square things would be ok. The square itself could be done with thin tape applied to the mat, so as not to damage it or mark it for when we send them back to speedstacks, and the dimensions could be just just a few millimeters larger than the largest puzzle (5x5x5 cube I would guess). We could also designate the bottom line of the square (the one closest to the timer) as the no pass line for magicing. If you fingers pass that line it is an illegal start, but if not then you can start however you want as long as fingers don't cross the line. What do you guys think? Chris
3457. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:08:48 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > If you up stack your 3 then your 6 then your 3 and the top cup of the > 6 pyramid falls off, the judge has to determine whether or not the > last 3 pyramid was up stacked or not (if not then it's a fumble and > has to be fixed, and if the 3 was finished then it's a clean stack > still). When someone does the cycle in 7 seconds, this particular > situation can all happen in less than 0.10 second. I dare to claim if someone does the cycle in 7 seconds then there was no such mistake :-) Where's your report that Ron mentioned? Cheers! Stefan
3458. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:10:10 -0700

We talked to Frank about it. Isn't he the main person that needs to know? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > It has been a while since I have read and posted here > and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I > see that the 2006 official records were posted. > > I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank > Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. > The final results used to say that they were all > official times but then right before the 2006 official > results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as > unofficial on the final results of that competition. > > I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, > but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not > make some sort of public announcement or comment on > the final results page of that competition as to why > his times did not count. > > I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up > being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree > with the final result - especially for no explanation > to the general cube community. Granted those involved > and the few that heard the rumors have their own > opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an > explanation? > > "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." > > That is an interesting comment. > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD > Christy (Crispy) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3459. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:12:27 -0700

Yeah, I'm not really sure it matters if you agree. Frank agrees, and we agree. You have absolutely nothing to do with that record. I do not believe you have ever participated in a 5x5x5 competition. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > It has been a while since I have read and posted here > and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I > see that the 2006 official records were posted. > > I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank > Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. > The final results used to say that they were all > official times but then right before the 2006 official > results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as > unofficial on the final results of that competition. > > I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, > but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not > make some sort of public announcement or comment on > the final results page of that competition as to why > his times did not count. > > I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up > being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree > with the final result - especially for no explanation > to the general cube community. Granted those involved > and the few that heard the rumors have their own > opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an > explanation? > > "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." > > That is an interesting comment. > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD > Christy (Crispy) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3460. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:21:45 -0000

Forget it, those TV celebs are too cool for you. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Yeah, I kind of which I could be like that too. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 1:58 PM, johnadams182 wrote: > > > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not that > > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, one > > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > > > Wish I could do that! > > > > -John > > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/
3461. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:22:29 -0000

> > I dare to claim if someone does the cycle in 7 seconds then there was > no such mistake :-) Hey Stefan, Yeah to get a 7 second cycle those people had a pretty much flawless execution, but a few of the really fast people did still get 8.xx seconds with a fumble. It was absolutely crazy to watch, kind of like Macky's sub-20 pop solve in competition; it just blew everyone away. The fastest cycle time I heard of at the tournament was a 6.70 done during warmups. So their records still have a long way to go, a lot of people have beaten Emily's 7.43 record unofficially, but none have done it officially yet. Kind of like our 9's in the UWR list but 11.13 is the official record. > > Where's your report that Ron mentioned? > I sent an e-mail to the WCA board members about my experience there as it relates to cubing tournaments. I still plan on writing a report about my experience there in general. It was a very awesome event, and I highly recommend anyone who is interested in stacking try a local tournament if you get the chance, it was an absolute blast! Stefan, if you get a chance you should talk to some of the guys on the German team. A few of them know of you already through Boris Konrad and blindfolded cubing. Also Dennis Schleussner is a world class yo-yo person and he knew of you too. Those guys were really cool, I had a chance to hang out with them some. If you're still interested in stacking you should look them up, they were very nice people and very fun to hang out with. Chris > Cheers! > Stefan >
3462. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:21:31 -0000

1) We want to make sure there's no move done before the timer starts or after the timer stops. 2) If I control the pads with my wrists, I can execute the whole solve without starting the timer. If I control the pads with my wrists, I can still make moves after the timer stops. 3) Controling the pads with fingers prevents people from cheating, intentionaly or not. Of course, when the competitor stops the timer with his wrists/palms and the puzzle is 31.41 centimeters away, there's no reason for disqualification. We should make the rule more clear about this point. On your page (http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html) you show 2 videos of solves. On both of them, you stop the timer with the cube under your fingers! Video analyzis only can tell if you're cheating or not. I think a juge should warn you the first time. And the next time, you should stop the timer with your fingers, or end with the cube far away, unless you want to risk DNF. By the way, I wanted an even more standardized way of starting, with a minimum distance between fingers and the puzzle. The others decided is wasn't required. Gilles. (Wow, 30 left to read on this subject...) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > Ok I have a question about this now. I just got back from the sport > stacking world championships and they allow their competitors to start > and stop the timer anywhere above the wrist. You can use palms, > fingers, palm on one hand and fingers and the other etc. > > Why do we even have this rule anyway? I can't think of the logic > behind it. Even being able to start the timer with your palms for > sport stacking has your hands closer to the cups than if you start > with fingers but they allow it and it is totally fine. > > So why do we have to start and stop with our fingers? To be honest > this doesn't make sense to me. > > I can understand how this might be an issue for the magic, but then > again sport stacking is just like doing the magic (do the same thing > every time) and if they allow it why don't we? How is it cheating for > us and not for them? > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" > <pochmann@> wrote: > > > > I wonder how many people violate the WCA rules when starting and > > stopping the timer. > > http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html > > > > We must start and stop with our *fingers*, not with the palms. I > > noticed even some top cubers do it wrong, including Chris doing it > > completely wrong in his competition tutorial videos (sorry, Chris :-) > > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/competitiontutorial.html > > > > Those first two screenshots are missing the text "this is how it's > > *NOT* done". > > > > Cheers! > > Stefan > > >
3463. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:29:08 -0700

Yeah, those losers. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > Forget it, those TV celebs are too cool for you. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> Yeah, I kind of which I could be like that too. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Apr 10, 2006, at 1:58 PM, johnadams182 wrote: >> >>> Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not > that >>> good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, > one >>> of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. >>> >>> Wish I could do that! >>> >>> -John >>> http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3464. Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:34:40 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > We could also designate the bottom line of the square (the one closest > to the timer) as the no pass line for magicing. That's not a "could", that's a "must". And not just for magic. Otherwise you could start with your fingers around the square and the judge says "ok" and then you move your fingers into the square by rotating your hands and *before* leaving the sensors. Cheers! Stefan
3465. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:36:27 -0700

Actually, I have the perfect solution to this. Frank's times were not counted as official because of a mistake I made at the competition. Frank didn't register until late and so I guess it was my fault that I didn't have advance warning that he was coming and didn't squeeze in the 5x5x5 round appropriately. I guess it's also my fault that I cut some 4x4x4 solves out of the competition just so that Frank would have time to solve the 5x5x5. It's also my fault that I scrapped the 2x2x2 in favor of the 5x5x5 because Frank is very good at that event. In the end, there was a mixup with the regulations and it's completely my fault that Frank's times didn't count. The simple solution will be to not do a 5x5x5 event at my competitions, because I'm sick of people like you complaining and whining about every little thing, when I actually go through extra efforts in an attempt to accommodate Frank's presence at the competition. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > It has been a while since I have read and posted here > and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I > see that the 2006 official records were posted. > > I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank > Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. > The final results used to say that they were all > official times but then right before the 2006 official > results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as > unofficial on the final results of that competition. > > I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, > but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not > make some sort of public announcement or comment on > the final results page of that competition as to why > his times did not count. > > I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up > being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree > with the final result - especially for no explanation > to the general cube community. Granted those involved > and the few that heard the rumors have their own > opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an > explanation? > > "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." > > That is an interesting comment. > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD > Christy (Crispy) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3466. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:45:38 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > ... > I think having the judge visually spot whether or not a move is being > done on the cube as the timer is stopped would be no different than > determining if a fumble occurs in the transition from the 3-6-3 into > the 6-6 (the spot where fumbles are hardest to catch). > ... I remember that one of the main reasons why the WCA refused to give Eric Johanson's timer (http://www.mission-designs.com/timer) a chance was because of the "free move" possibility. Stackmats were supposed to make such a cheat impossible. Hearing now that the judge should make a decision based on visual criteria is very amusing. Gilles.
3467. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:45:44 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@...> wrote: > > Anyway, everyone is free to make a good proposal for upcoming > versions of the WCA regulations. Criticising is OK, coming with good > proposals is better. I'm gonna do that in a moment, but in the WCA forum. In case someone doesn't know, it's here: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/forum/ Cheers! Stefan
3468. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:55:34 -0700 (PDT)

well that's seems a little unfair to all of us, why is there never enough time for the 5x5? other countries have great setups where you are given 1 solve, if its under a certain time you go on, if not ur done. that seems to be the best then those that want to just get a solve in can, and those looking to break/set records also have their shot, without tying up too much competition time. i think that as long as at least 2 people are preregistered for the event it should happen. i don't think this was a matter of anything except the exploratorium pushing us to be done faster than was really possible, and unfortunatly frank had to suffer for it. hopefully at caltech or future tournamtents we can accomadate this from the participant side by being on time and registered, and the competition starting on time, 6 hrs should be enough with a lunch break to get all the events in. also tyson, you are awesome and have helped out the community not to mention me personally a lot, but try and watch the anger buddy, you're too cool to be flipping on people for asking ?'s, if you can put up with my constant potty mouth then it should be no problem ;) again no offense intended. --- Original Message ---- From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:36:27 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination? Actually, I have the perfect solution to this. Frank's times were not counted as official because of a mistake I made at the competition. Frank didn't register until late and so I guess it was my fault that I didn't have advance warning that he was coming and didn't squeeze in the 5x5x5 round appropriately. I guess it's also my fault that I cut some 4x4x4 solves out of the competition just so that Frank would have time to solve the 5x5x5. It's also my fault that I scrapped the 2x2x2 in favor of the 5x5x5 because Frank is very good at that event. In the end, there was a mixup with the regulations and it's completely my fault that Frank's times didn't count. The simple solution will be to not do a 5x5x5 event at my competitions, because I'm sick of people like you complaining and whining about every little thing, when I actually go through extra efforts in an attempt to accommodate Frank's presence at the competition. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > It has been a while since I have read and posted here > and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I > see that the 2006 official records were posted. > > I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank > Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. > The final results used to say that they were all > official times but then right before the 2006 official > results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as > unofficial on the final results of that competition. > > I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, > but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not > make some sort of public announcement or comment on > the final results page of that competition as to why > his times did not count. > > I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up > being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree > with the final result - especially for no explanation > to the general cube community. Granted those involved > and the few that heard the rumors have their own > opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an > explanation? > > "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." > > That is an interesting comment. > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD > Christy (Crispy) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3469. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 16:02:55 -0700

Sure, we screwed up. We underestimated the number of participants at the Exploratorium. Again, our mistake. What more do you want? We try our hardest, and things don't happen every time. There's no reason to accuse anyone of dishonesty. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Clancy Cochran wrote: > well that's seems a little unfair to all of us, why is there never > enough time for the 5x5? other countries have great setups where you > are given 1 solve, if its under a certain time you go on, if not ur > done. that seems to be the best then those that want to just get a > solve in can, and those looking to break/set records also have their > shot, without tying up too much competition time. i think that as long > as at least 2 people are preregistered for the event it should happen. > i don't think this was a matter of anything except the exploratorium > pushing us to be done faster than was really possible, and > unfortunatly frank had to suffer for it. hopefully at caltech or > future tournamtents we can accomadate this from the participant side > by being on time and registered, and the competition starting on time, > 6 hrs should be enough with a lunch break to get all the events in. > also tyson, you are awesome and have helped out the community not to > mention me personally a lot, > but try and watch the anger buddy, you're too cool to be flipping on > people for asking ?'s, if you can put up with my constant potty mouth > then it should be no problem ;) again no offense intended. > > > > > --- Original Message ---- > From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:36:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination? > > Actually, I have the perfect solution to this. > > Frank's times were not counted as official because of a mistake I made > at the competition. Frank didn't register until late and so I guess > it > was my fault that I didn't have advance warning that he was coming and > didn't squeeze in the 5x5x5 round appropriately. I guess it's also my > fault that I cut some 4x4x4 solves out of the competition just so that > Frank would have time to solve the 5x5x5. It's also my fault that I > scrapped the 2x2x2 in favor of the 5x5x5 because Frank is very good at > that event. > > In the end, there was a mixup with the regulations and it's completely > my fault that Frank's times didn't count. The simple solution will be > to not do a 5x5x5 event at my competitions, because I'm sick of people > like you complaining and whining about every little thing, when I > actually go through extra efforts in an attempt to accommodate Frank's > presence at the competition. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > >> It has been a while since I have read and posted here >> and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I >> see that the 2006 official records were posted. >> >> I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank >> Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. >> The final results used to say that they were all >> official times but then right before the 2006 official >> results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as >> unofficial on the final results of that competition. >> >> I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, >> but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not >> make some sort of public announcement or comment on >> the final results page of that competition as to why >> his times did not count. >> >> I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up >> being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree >> with the final result - especially for no explanation >> to the general cube community. Granted those involved >> and the few that heard the rumors have their own >> opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an >> explanation? >> >> "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." >> >> That is an interesting comment. >> >> >> "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD >> Christy (Crispy) >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3470. [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 23:19:32 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@> wrote: > > > > Anyway, everyone is free to make a good proposal for upcoming > > versions of the WCA regulations. Criticising is OK, coming with good > > proposals is better. > > I'm gonna do that in a moment, but in the WCA forum. Ok, have a look here now: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62 Cheers! Stefan
3471. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Crispy <redivre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:20:01 -0700 (PDT)

--- Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: >We talked to Frank about it. Isn't he the main >person that needs to know? Yea he is the main person that needs to know but at the same time what about the people who wonder and just want to ask? You could of simply said something to the effect of "the WCA board spoke with Frank about the situation and he understands the reasoning...blah blah blah" >Yeah, I'm not really sure it matters if you agree. >Frank agrees, and we agree. You have absolutely >nothing to do with that record. I do >not believe you have ever participated in a 5x5x5 >competition. I'm not saying it matters if I agree or not, obviously it is my opinion that is all. You are right, I don't have anything to do with that record. I didn't set it. But what if I had (in like a million years). What if I had been the one that set a new record and then had it taken away. I would want some public explaination about the whole thing. Since I see the final results of the competition and the 2006 official records - I guess I was just asking for an explaination. I have heard several answers/rumors about it but thought I'd ask the ones who knew -which in this case is you all. I don't believe if I have competed in a 5x5 competition is relevant here. >Actually, I have the perfect solution to this. >Frank's times were not counted as official because >of a mistake I made at the competition. Frank >didn't register until late and so I guess it >was my fault that I didn't have advance warning that >he was coming and didn't squeeze in the 5x5x5 round >appropriately. I guess it's also my fault that I >cut some 4x4x4 solves out of the competition just so >that Frank would have time to solve the 5x5x5. It's >also my fault that I scrapped the 2x2x2 in favor of >the 5x5x5 because Frank is very good at that event. I can say that was a thoughtful and generous gesture. Attempting to bend and be flexible enough to attempt to allow a 5x5 is awesome coordination on your part I'm not saying you didn't try. But at the same time, since he registered late - why punish the rest of the competitors who registered on time by scrapping or shortening the other events? Granted if someone is very good at an event and they register late, whose fault is that? If someone registers late can they request an event be added? Just like college, if you register late for classes - you have to settle with what is available. >In the end, there was a mixup with the regulations >and it's completely my fault that Frank's times >didn't count. And in the end that is all I needed to hear. Just a simple reason for the discrepancy. >The simple solution will be to not do a 5x5x5 event >at my competitions, because I'm sick of people >like you complaining and whining about every little >thing, when I actually go through extra efforts in >an attempt to accommodate Frank's presence at the >competition. Hey if you wish to not hold 5x5 competitions that is your perogative. You have been doing competitions for a while now and with the popularity of the puzzle there are going to be certain things or aspects that need to change. They are your competitions and you can do what you want. If you took my curiosity as "whining and complaining" that is all you. All I asked was a question and you apparently felt personally attacked -which of course was not my intent. I admire the fact that you attempting to work in an event for someone who is good at it. As for "people like me" some of us are born to ask questions and figure out the how, why things are the way they are. If I have a question, I am going to ask it, I'm not going to sit and just wonder, not my style. You don't have to like me or "people like me" - such is life, I am sure everyone feels that way towards someone at one point or another. > Sure, we screwed up. We underestimated the number > of participants at the Exploratorium. Again, our > mistake. What more do you want? We try > our hardest, and things don't happen every time. > There's no reason to accuse anyone of dishonesty. Again that is all that needed to be said "We underestimated the number of participants at the Exploratorium. Our mistake" I just wanted an explaination. As for accusing anyone of being dishonest...to me changing the results of anything without an explaination - either to the public or a side note on the bottom of the final results page seems a little sneaky - like something was trying to be avoided (perhaps an email string like this). "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD Christy (Crispy) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3472. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:36:55 -0700

It's just a TV trick. He can't really solve the thing. That guy was such a poser. -Chris On 4/10/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@...> wrote: > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not that > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, one > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > Wish I could do that! > > -John > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3473. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 00:50:20 -0000

Hahahahaha John...We all can :) Hes what some may count as "slow" lol... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > It's just a TV trick. He can't really solve the thing. That guy was > such a poser. > > -Chris > > On 4/10/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@...> wrote: > > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not that > > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, one > > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > > > Wish I could do that! > > > > -John > > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3474. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: Brent Morgan <brentmorganmaster@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:52:01 -0700 (PDT)

I have a say on this topic, as I experienced something in WC2005 that relates to this issue. When walking up to the timer, I put my hands on the timer as usual (like I always and usually do), and the judge did the following: 1) Put my fingers on the pads AND 2) Placed the cube _away_ from my fingers. there is no way I can prove distance between the cube and my fingers in this post, but there lies an issue in this principle. This issue on "starting" and "stopping" the timer DOES need to be defined, and I completely agree with Chris on this. The "minimal distance between pad and cube" and "taped square" where the cube should be are all good ideas. As long as your not touching the cube, starting the timer and stopping the timer should not matter at all- the ideal is to solve the cube, not deal with such matters as "how our hands should be placed." With hundreds of people competing nowadays, this can be a weird thing to regulate through the judges- and like Ron said, costs $ to train such judges to watch for this. In conclusion, the whole point boils down to this: we, the cubing community, need a new timer. A new timer would define such a situation enough to resolve this problem. Though, I believe a defined set of rules, such as "minimal distance from the touch-pads" or "cube in a particular square" is good, in addition to using hands/palms of course (or using hands on the pads in any way you wish). I will continue this in the WCA forum. These are just my two cents... Thanks, -Brent Morgan Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@...> wrote: --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@> wrote: > > > > Anyway, everyone is free to make a good proposal for upcoming > > versions of the WCA regulations. Criticising is OK, coming with good > > proposals is better. > > I'm gonna do that in a moment, but in the WCA forum. Ok, have a look here now: http://www.worldcubeassociation.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62 Cheers! Stefan --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- :) --Brent --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1��/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3475. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:03:26 -0700 (PDT)

i never accused anyone of being dishonest. i believe that everyone involved in the judgeing has high moral character and fiber. and as a participant i know i'm not always on time and registered and i will work hard to amend that. i know you guys do everything you can to make it go off without a hitch, and you always do a great job. hope we can all work together to make it even better. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:02:55 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination? Sure, we screwed up. We underestimated the number of participants at the Exploratorium. Again, our mistake. What more do you want? We try our hardest, and things don't happen every time. There's no reason to accuse anyone of dishonesty. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Clancy Cochran wrote: > well that's seems a little unfair to all of us, why is there never > enough time for the 5x5? other countries have great setups where you > are given 1 solve, if its under a certain time you go on, if not ur > done. that seems to be the best then those that want to just get a > solve in can, and those looking to break/set records also have their > shot, without tying up too much competition time. i think that as long > as at least 2 people are preregistered for the event it should happen. > i don't think this was a matter of anything except the exploratorium > pushing us to be done faster than was really possible, and > unfortunatly frank had to suffer for it. hopefully at caltech or > future tournamtents we can accomadate this from the participant side > by being on time and registered, and the competition starting on time, > 6 hrs should be enough with a lunch break to get all the events in. > also tyson, you are awesome and have helped out the community not to > mention me personally a lot, > but try and watch the anger buddy, you're too cool to be flipping on > people for asking ?'s, if you can put up with my constant potty mouth > then it should be no problem ;) again no offense intended. > > > > > --- Original Message ---- > From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:36:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination? > > Actually, I have the perfect solution to this. > > Frank's times were not counted as official because of a mistake I made > at the competition. Frank didn't register until late and so I guess > it > was my fault that I didn't have advance warning that he was coming and > didn't squeeze in the 5x5x5 round appropriately. I guess it's also my > fault that I cut some 4x4x4 solves out of the competition just so that > Frank would have time to solve the 5x5x5. It's also my fault that I > scrapped the 2x2x2 in favor of the 5x5x5 because Frank is very good at > that event. > > In the end, there was a mixup with the regulations and it's completely > my fault that Frank's times didn't count. The simple solution will be > to not do a 5x5x5 event at my competitions, because I'm sick of people > like you complaining and whining about every little thing, when I > actually go through extra efforts in an attempt to accommodate Frank's > presence at the competition. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > >> It has been a while since I have read and posted here >> and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I >> see that the 2006 official records were posted. >> >> I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank >> Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. >> The final results used to say that they were all >> official times but then right before the 2006 official >> results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as >> unofficial on the final results of that competition. >> >> I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, >> but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not >> make some sort of public announcement or comment on >> the final results page of that competition as to why >> his times did not count. >> >> I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up >> being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree >> with the final result - especially for no explanation >> to the general cube community. Granted those involved >> and the few that heard the rumors have their own >> opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an >> explanation? >> >> "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." >> >> That is an interesting comment. >> >> >> "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD >> Christy (Crispy) >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. 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3476. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:57:09 -0700 (PDT)

I don't think anyone would ever even *try* to cheat in this manner... not if judges were trained to look for it. No world class cubist would risk it (assuming a raised awareness), and they are the only ones where the extra 0.10 second would actually matter. If judges were trained to look for this, not only would they probably become more qualified, but it would act as a deterent and the problem would probably never happen in the first place. Quite frankly I don't really care, b/c a fraction of a second has never meant much to me, but i know for some people, this time does matter. my 2 cents David cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I dare to claim if someone does the cycle in 7 seconds then there was > no such mistake :-) Hey Stefan, Yeah to get a 7 second cycle those people had a pretty much flawless execution, but a few of the really fast people did still get 8.xx seconds with a fumble. It was absolutely crazy to watch, kind of like Macky's sub-20 pop solve in competition; it just blew everyone away. The fastest cycle time I heard of at the tournament was a 6.70 done during warmups. So their records still have a long way to go, a lot of people have beaten Emily's 7.43 record unofficially, but none have done it officially yet. Kind of like our 9's in the UWR list but 11.13 is the official record. > > Where's your report that Ron mentioned? > I sent an e-mail to the WCA board members about my experience there as it relates to cubing tournaments. I still plan on writing a report about my experience there in general. It was a very awesome event, and I highly recommend anyone who is interested in stacking try a local tournament if you get the chance, it was an absolute blast! Stefan, if you get a chance you should talk to some of the guys on the German team. A few of them know of you already through Boris Konrad and blindfolded cubing. Also Dennis Schleussner is a world class yo-yo person and he knew of you too. Those guys were really cool, I had a chance to hang out with them some. If you're still interested in stacking you should look them up, they were very nice people and very fun to hang out with. Chris > Cheers! > Stefan > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3477. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:32:28 -0700 (PDT)

I feel kind of obligated to post my thoughts here....although, I am a little apprehensive since I can only imagine all of the retorts I will recieve. When I found out that I would be able to go to the comp in January, I asked for a 5x5 event, with full belief that there would not be one. I know it isn't everyone's favorite event, and I know that a big turnout was expected. However, I believe that it never hurts to ask. Luckily, Tyson worked hard to fit an event in for me, and made other sacrifices as well. Next time I won't ask if I am coming to an event on short notice. My fault. Do I agree with the ruling? No. However, I know that fighting it was a losing battle, and I made a statement off the top of my head which helps that battle. I respect the WCA board and will just let it go. Am I still bitter? Yes. I won't lie, it sucks. However, I know that there are other opportunities to compete, and possibly to better than I did in January. Let's just drop this before anymore is said here. If you want to bash on what I have said here, send me a personal email. The harsh words, sarcasm and all the bullshit may make some people not want to ask questions. I know I am hesitant sometimes. In the meantime, I will just be busting my ass on the 5x5. Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: i never accused anyone of being dishonest. i believe that everyone involved in the judgeing has high moral character and fiber. and as a participant i know i'm not always on time and registered and i will work hard to amend that. i know you guys do everything you can to make it go off without a hitch, and you always do a great job. hope we can all work together to make it even better. ----- Original Message ---- From: Tyson Mao <tmao@its.caltech.edu> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:02:55 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination? Sure, we screwed up. We underestimated the number of participants at the Exploratorium. Again, our mistake. What more do you want? We try our hardest, and things don't happen every time. There's no reason to accuse anyone of dishonesty. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Clancy Cochran wrote: > well that's seems a little unfair to all of us, why is there never > enough time for the 5x5? other countries have great setups where you > are given 1 solve, if its under a certain time you go on, if not ur > done. that seems to be the best then those that want to just get a > solve in can, and those looking to break/set records also have their > shot, without tying up too much competition time. i think that as long > as at least 2 people are preregistered for the event it should happen. > i don't think this was a matter of anything except the exploratorium > pushing us to be done faster than was really possible, and > unfortunatly frank had to suffer for it. hopefully at caltech or > future tournamtents we can accomadate this from the participant side > by being on time and registered, and the competition starting on time, > 6 hrs should be enough with a lunch break to get all the events in. > also tyson, you are awesome and have helped out the community not to > mention me personally a lot, > but try and watch the anger buddy, you're too cool to be flipping on > people for asking ?'s, if you can put up with my constant potty mouth > then it should be no problem ;) again no offense intended. > > > > > --- Original Message ---- > From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 3:36:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination? > > Actually, I have the perfect solution to this. > > Frank's times were not counted as official because of a mistake I made > at the competition. Frank didn't register until late and so I guess > it > was my fault that I didn't have advance warning that he was coming and > didn't squeeze in the 5x5x5 round appropriately. I guess it's also my > fault that I cut some 4x4x4 solves out of the competition just so that > Frank would have time to solve the 5x5x5. It's also my fault that I > scrapped the 2x2x2 in favor of the 5x5x5 because Frank is very good at > that event. > > In the end, there was a mixup with the regulations and it's completely > my fault that Frank's times didn't count. The simple solution will be > to not do a 5x5x5 event at my competitions, because I'm sick of people > like you complaining and whining about every little thing, when I > actually go through extra efforts in an attempt to accommodate Frank's > presence at the competition. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > >> It has been a while since I have read and posted here >> and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I >> see that the 2006 official records were posted. >> >> I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank >> Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. >> The final results used to say that they were all >> official times but then right before the 2006 official >> results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as >> unofficial on the final results of that competition. >> >> I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, >> but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not >> make some sort of public announcement or comment on >> the final results page of that competition as to why >> his times did not count. >> >> I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up >> being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree >> with the final result - especially for no explanation >> to the general cube community. Granted those involved >> and the few that heard the rumors have their own >> opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an >> explanation? >> >> "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." >> >> That is an interesting comment. >> >> >> "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD >> Christy (Crispy) >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. 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3478. Re: [Speed cubing group] Isn't there a public explaination?
From: kirk83616 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 04:13:48 -0000

I agree with Christy that this is relevant to the community and a lot of us are curious about it. At a minimum, it should be a learning opportunity for others who try to organize tournaments so that they are cognizant of some of the more obscure (and questionable) rules of the WCA. This mistake shouldn't happen again if people are informed, but if no one mentions it, the mistakes of history are doomed to be repeated. But don't beat yourself up, Tyson; it's one mistake, and after all you have done, I think you're entitled to make a mistake or two. We all make mistakes. I don't think anyone was attacking you or complaining about your efforts; we all should be very grateful for all you have done to promote cubing -- from tournaments to tv and everything in between -- (I know I am). But open and frank dialog (no pun intended) is good for the community, and may ensure that no one else has to go through what Frank had to go through. Happy cubing, --Kirk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > Yeah, I'm not really sure it matters if you agree. Frank agrees, and > we agree. You have absolutely nothing to do with that record. I do > not believe you have ever participated in a 5x5x5 competition. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Crispy wrote: > > > It has been a while since I have read and posted here > > and I am catching up from ALL the past emails and I > > see that the 2006 official records were posted. > > > > I know there was an issue back in Jan about Frank > > Morris's 5x5 times at the Caltech Winter Tournament. > > The final results used to say that they were all > > official times but then right before the 2006 official > > results were posted his 5x5 times were posted as > > unofficial on the final results of that competition. > > > > I know the "reason" they were not posted as official, > > but I think it shows poor form of the WCA board to not > > make some sort of public announcement or comment on > > the final results page of that competition as to why > > his times did not count. > > > > I didn't read all the commentary of why it ended up > > being unofficial - but I can state that I didn't agree > > with the final result - especially for no explanation > > to the general cube community. Granted those involved > > and the few that heard the rumors have their own > > opinion but doesn't something like that deserve an > > explanation? > > > > "There needs to be trust in the role of the WCA..." > > > > That is an interesting comment. > > > > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD > > Christy (Crispy) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3479. Centers + pairing up edges avg (4x4x4)
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:23:56 -0000

Hi, I have a question for the fast 4x4x4 cubers. How long do you need to solve the centers and pairing up the edges for the 4x4x4? Today I took a (rolling) average for this. The times were: 32.92 36.13 46.87 32.87 36.06 36.66 (1:01.40) 34.59 35.54 36.99 (30.51) 32.74 ==> 36.14 seconds (The 46.87 and 1:01.40 was because I made a mistake.) For pairing up the edges I used this method: I solve the first six pairs at once. After this I (usually) do four pairs at once. And then the last two pairs if necessary. Michael Fung
3480. picture from the different methodes
From: "thomasstadlerschweiz" <thomasstadler@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 17:43:38 -0000

hi at all, a few days ago i've seen a picture in the web, that shows the different methodes for solving the 3x3x3. (fridrich, roux, petrus, ZB,...)All methodes explained on one site. does anyone knows the internet site? thx thomas
3481. Re: [Speed cubing group] picture from the different methodes
From: "Duncan Dicks" <duncan@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:35:12 +0100

Hi Thomas, I think that might be Chris Hardwick's speedcubing.com page http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/index.html#newmethods Unless someone else knows better? Duncan ----- Original Message ----- From: "thomasstadlerschweiz" <thomasstadler@...> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:43 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] picture from the different methodes > hi at all, > a few days ago i've seen a picture in the web, that shows the > different methodes for solving the 3x3x3. (fridrich, roux, petrus, > ZB,...)All methodes explained on one site. > does anyone knows the internet site? > thx > > thomas > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >
3482. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 18:39:40 -0000

Since you asked, it seems the organizers decided to build something near the competition venue... http://grrroux.free.fr/build3.jpg :-) Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > And in the whole Paris, nothing for 3x3x3ing!? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilles Roux > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting places. > > For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg > For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg > For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg > > The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3483. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 21:22:01 +0200

Fantastic! But I doubt. A photomontage? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gilles Roux To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris Since you asked, it seems the organizers decided to build something near the competition venue... http://grrroux.free.fr/build3.jpg :-) Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > And in the whole Paris, nothing for 3x3x3ing!? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilles Roux > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting places. > > For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg > For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg > For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg > > The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3484. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:27:43 +0200

Not at all, I took a picture from several angles, that cube is really on the facade of the European Champs venue. We've been dreaming about customizing it for the champs, but I doubt they let us do it. http://sylmuzox.free.fr/CSI/CIMG2963.jpg http://sylmuzox.free.fr/CSI/CIMG2968.jpg François Rune Wesström a écrit : > Fantastic! But I doubt. A photomontage? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilles Roux > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > Since you asked, it seems the organizers decided to build something > near the competition venue... > > http://grrroux.free.fr/build3.jpg > > :-) > > Gilles. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > And in the whole Paris, nothing for 3x3x3ing!? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilles Roux > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:04 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > > > > > In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting > places. > > > > For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg > > For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg > > For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg > > > > The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3485. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:41:56 +0200

I always liked that place in Paris, but I didn't know why. Now I know :D Gilles. PS : it's really a really nice place :-) 2006/4/11, François Sechet <frsechet@...>: > Not at all, I took a picture from several angles, that cube is really on > the facade of the European Champs venue. We've been dreaming about > customizing it for the champs, but I doubt they let us do it. > http://sylmuzox.free.fr/CSI/CIMG2963.jpg > http://sylmuzox.free.fr/CSI/CIMG2968.jpg > François > > Rune Wesström a écrit : > > Fantastic! But I doubt. A photomontage? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilles Roux > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:39 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > > > > > Since you asked, it seems the organizers decided to build something > > near the competition venue... > > > > http://grrroux.free.fr/build3.jpg > > > > :-) > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > > <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > > > And in the whole Paris, nothing for 3x3x3ing!? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Gilles Roux > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:04 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > > > > > > > > > In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting > > places. > > > > > > For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg > > > For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg > > > For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg > > > > > > The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... > > > > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3486. Re: [Speed cubing group] picture from the different methodes
From: "Mike Bennett" <mikeisadumbname@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:48:26 -0500

And if that wasn't it, perhaps it was the cubing wiki? -Mike On 4/11/06, Duncan Dicks <duncan@...> wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > I think that might be Chris Hardwick's speedcubing.com page > http://www.speedcubing.com/chris/index.html#newmethods > Unless someone else knows better? > > Duncan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3487. Re: [Speed cubing group] cube injury - help please
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:20:33 +0100 (BST)

I am feeling fine. My pain is reduced a lot. I am completely keeping away from cubing for the 6th day. My doctor told me not to worry. Thanks everyone for your suggestion and advise. J.Bernett Orlando Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: About two months ago, I started feeling pains in my right thumb, directly after playing with my EXTREMELY stiff Rubik's 5*5*5. It didn't go away, so I had a break from cubing for 3-4 weeks. Then I started practicing for the Swedish cube competition. I can still feel it every once in a while, but it's not as bad as it was. I usually feel it while cubing, so I don't practice as much now as I did before. After German Open I'm thinking of tkeing a break for a month or so to see if it dissappears, so I can tart training for the European Championships. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, broncoviper <no_reply@...> wrote: > > The same thing happened to me like a week ago. I just took a break > for 24-36 hrs and it went away. Just stretch and relax ;) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > My mom is a physical therapist and is very knowledgeable with > these problems. She says you need to get exercise (especially > something that can involve your arms/wrists). You also need to > stretch the affected areas every day (Try different kinds of > stretches and be sure you are getting all of the muscles) > > > > She also recommends a break from cubing, but I know you wont do > that. Perhaps just cube less for a week or two. > > > > David > > > > JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@> wrote: > > OMG! My hands are paining very severly right from my shoulder. I > did not sleep last night at all. My parents are worried now. But, I > could not break or stop cubing, because i enjoy it. > > As I am a bit improved cuber after meeting Ron uncle, I am not > hurting my fingers anymore. But my hands are paining a lot. > > How can I overcome this please ? > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously > low rates. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3488. 11.13 video
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:15:43 -0700

Hi Everyone, Do you remember who took the other video of the 11.13 second solve? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3489. Re: [Speed cubing group] 11.13 video
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:28:34 -0700

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/26821 On 4/12/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Do you remember who took the other video of the 11.13 second solve? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3490. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 10:34:13 +0200

In that case it only remains to you to go there some dark night and colour it in suitable colours (why not flourescent?). R ----- Original Message ----- From: François Sechet To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris Not at all, I took a picture from several angles, that cube is really on the facade of the European Champs venue. We've been dreaming about customizing it for the champs, but I doubt they let us do it. http://sylmuzox.free.fr/CSI/CIMG2963.jpg http://sylmuzox.free.fr/CSI/CIMG2968.jpg François Rune Wesström a écrit : > Fantastic! But I doubt. A photomontage? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gilles Roux > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:39 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > Since you asked, it seems the organizers decided to build something > near the competition venue... > > http://grrroux.free.fr/build3.jpg > > :-) > > Gilles. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > And in the whole Paris, nothing for 3x3x3ing!? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Gilles Roux > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:04 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cubing in Paris > > > > > > > > In Paris, if you need inspiration, there are some interesting > places. > > > > For 5x5x5ing: http://grrroux.free.fr/arche.jpg > > For masterballing: http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg > > For pyraminxing: http://grrroux.free.fr/pyra.jpg > > > > The european champ should take place close to one of these sites... > > > > > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3491. Re: Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "Tyson Mao" <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:43:51 -0000

Is this John Lwin? Could I get the raw file for this solve? Rubik's wants to put it on their website. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > The video of new World Record (11.13). > > http://www.youtube.com/?v=QAZ20aL9E84 > > :p
3492. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:45:01 -0000

May be you´ll find it here? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > I'm an idiot. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:11 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > huntca@ wrote: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/gszbn > >> > >> -Chris
3493. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:52:42 -0700

I need the actual raw file... can't be compressed. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:45 AM, uweren2000 wrote: > May be you´ll find it here? > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> I'm an idiot. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:11 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: >> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" >>> huntca@ wrote: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/gszbn >>>> >>>> -Chris > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3494. Re: [Speed cubing group] Video of Rubik's Cube 3x3 World Record (11.13) ~~
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:53:16 -0700

And further more, it can't be from that angle. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 12, 2006, at 1:45 AM, uweren2000 wrote: > May be you´ll find it here? > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> > wrote: >> >> I'm an idiot. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Feb 23, 2006, at 10:11 AM, cwlin1010 wrote: >> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" >>> huntca@ wrote: >>>> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/gszbn >>>> >>>> -Chris > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3495. starting pairs with incorrectly oriented cross
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 14:43:13 -0400

This is happening less and less, but it still happens. I get my first pair or two done and realize that I forgot to orient the cross before starting my pairs. If the cross is incorrectly oriented by a half-twist, I can correct the situation without messing up my solved pairs by flipping the cube upside down and doing an H perm when I'm done. Is there anything I can do if I'm only a quarter twist off? Do you typically just call it a DNF as soon as you realize the cross is wrong and move on, or try to fix it and take that solve as (hopefully) your worst time? I'm just talking about doing unofficial averages of 10, but I'd be interested in your opinion when this happens in a competition setting as well. - Matt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3496. Re: starting pairs with incorrectly oriented cross
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:08:03 -0000

Oh man I hated it when this happens. If you've only done 1 or 2 pairs, you can take them out and reorient, then put them back in. But obviously the best thing is to work on never doing it at all. I did one just earlier today, so I shouldn't talk! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > This is happening less and less, but it still happens. I get my first pair > or two done and realize that I forgot to orient the cross before starting my > pairs. If the cross is incorrectly oriented by a half-twist, I can correct > the situation without messing up my solved pairs by flipping the cube upside > down and doing an H perm when I'm done. Is there anything I can do if I'm > only a quarter twist off? > > Do you typically just call it a DNF as soon as you realize the cross is > wrong and move on, or try to fix it and take that solve as (hopefully) your > worst time? I'm just talking about doing unofficial averages of 10, but I'd > be interested in your opinion when this happens in a competition setting as > well. > > - Matt > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3497. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting pairs with incorrectly oriented cross
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 12:40:20 -0700

As soon as you notice, fix it. If you already have f2l done, then you could flip it over and do a zperm, then flip it back over so that U is where it's suppose to be, and do M2 U2 M2 Your cross will be fixed and you can continue with the last layer. It truly sucks when this happens...I hate it. -Chris On 4/12/06, Matt Moberly <mmoberly@...> wrote: > This is happening less and less, but it still happens. I get my first pair > or two done and realize that I forgot to orient the cross before starting my > pairs. If the cross is incorrectly oriented by a half-twist, I can correct > the situation without messing up my solved pairs by flipping the cube upside > down and doing an H perm when I'm done. Is there anything I can do if I'm > only a quarter twist off? > > Do you typically just call it a DNF as soon as you realize the cross is > wrong and move on, or try to fix it and take that solve as (hopefully) your > worst time? I'm just talking about doing unofficial averages of 10, but I'd > be interested in your opinion when this happens in a competition setting as > well. > > - Matt > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3498. RE: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer
From: "James Stuber" <jestuber@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 16:08:08 -0700

0.10 seconds does matter a lot to those not in the finals. I would’ve made it to semifinals at WC2005 if I was .06 seconds faster. -James Stuber _____ From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Pritts Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:57 PM To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: starting/stopping the timer I don't think anyone would ever even *try* to cheat in this manner... not if judges were trained to look for it. No world class cubist would risk it (assuming a raised awareness), and they are the only ones where the extra 0.10 second would actually matter. If judges were trained to look for this, not only would they probably become more qualified, but it would act as a deterent and the problem would probably never happen in the first place. Quite frankly I don't really care, b/c a fraction of a second has never meant much to me, but i know for some people, this time does matter. my 2 cents David cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I dare to claim if someone does the cycle in 7 seconds then there was > no such mistake :-) Hey Stefan, Yeah to get a 7 second cycle those people had a pretty much flawless execution, but a few of the really fast people did still get 8.xx seconds with a fumble. It was absolutely crazy to watch, kind of like Macky's sub-20 pop solve in competition; it just blew everyone away. The fastest cycle time I heard of at the tournament was a 6.70 done during warmups. So their records still have a long way to go, a lot of people have beaten Emily's 7.43 record unofficially, but none have done it officially yet. Kind of like our 9's in the UWR list but 11.13 is the official record. > > Where's your report that Ron mentioned? > I sent an e-mail to the WCA board members about my experience there as it relates to cubing tournaments. I still plan on writing a report about my experience there in general. It was a very awesome event, and I highly recommend anyone who is interested in stacking try a local tournament if you get the chance, it was an absolute blast! Stefan, if you get a chance you should talk to some of the guys on the German team. A few of them know of you already through Boris Konrad and blindfolded cubing. Also Dennis Schleussner is a world class yo-yo person and he knew of you too. Those guys were really cool, I had a chance to hang out with them some. If you're still interested in stacking you should look them up, they were very nice people and very fun to hang out with. Chris > Cheers! > Stefan > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscri be> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3499. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting pairs with incorrectly oriented cross
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 01:00:05 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@.. .> wrote: > > As soon as you notice, fix it. If you already have f2l done, then you > could flip it over and do a zperm, then flip it back over so that U is > where it's suppose to be, and do M2 U2 M2 > > Your cross will be fixed and you can continue with the last layer. How about (M2 S2 U M2 S2) instead? Cheers! Stefan
3500. Re: [Speed cubing group] starting pairs with incorrectly oriented cross
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:06:56 -0700

I GUESS that will work :) -Chris On 4/12/06, Stefan Pochmann <pochmann@gmx.de> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@.. > .> wrote: > > > > As soon as you notice, fix it. If you already have f2l done, then > you > > could flip it over and do a zperm, then flip it back over so that U > is > > where it's suppose to be, and do M2 U2 M2 > > > > Your cross will be fixed and you can continue with the last layer. > > How about (M2 S2 U M2 S2) instead? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3501. Cool?
From: kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:56:23 -0000

http://webserver.ifdesign.de/beitrag_details.php? offset=4&sprache=1&award_id=115&beitrag_id=27284
3502. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cool?
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:03:47 -0700

Interesting. I would try it for a reasonable price. -Chris On 4/12/06, kyuubree <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > http://webserver.ifdesign.de/beitrag_details.php? > offset=4&sprache=1&award_id=115&beitrag_id=27284 > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3503. Re: Cool?
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:47:00 -0000

http://tinyurl.com/oqy8y Nice.. maybe my uncle likes this :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > http://webserver.ifdesign.de/beitrag_details.php? > offset=4&sprache=1&award_id=115&beitrag_id=27284 >
3504. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Cool?
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:09:17 +0200

Very similar to a certain German man. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joël van Noort To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Cool? http://tinyurl.com/oqy8y Nice.. maybe my uncle likes this :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@...> wrote: > > http://webserver.ifdesign.de/beitrag_details.php? > offset=4&sprache=1&award_id=115&beitrag_id=27284 > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3505. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "johnadams182" <johnadams182@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:26:48 -0000

really? that sucks. What is teh fasted time someone has solved a cube? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > It's just a TV trick. He can't really solve the thing. That guy was > such a poser. > > -Chris > > On 4/10/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@...> wrote: > > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am not that > > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the Geek, one > > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > > > Wish I could do that! > > > > -John > > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3506. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:47:12 -0400

Take a look at the records pages on speedcubing.com. Or maybe it's better if you don't. Sometimes it just makes me feel depressed. ;-) And Chris was joking. "That guy" (Tyson Mao) is the real deal. On 4/13/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@...> wrote: > > really? that sucks. What is teh fasted time someone has solved a cube? > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@...> wrote: > > > > It's just a TV trick. He can't really solve the thing. That guy was > > such a poser. > > > > -Chris > > > > On 4/10/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@...> wrote: > > > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am > not that > > > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the > Geek, one > > > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > > > > > Wish I could do that! > > > > > > -John > > > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > -- http://procool.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3507. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:45:30 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > And Chris was joking. "That guy" (Tyson Mao) is the real deal. Party pooper...
3508. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:10:53 -0700

Have you not been noticing how I sign my e-mails? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 13, 2006, at 8:45 AM, Stefan Pochmann wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@...> wrote: >> >> And Chris was joking. "That guy" (Tyson Mao) is the real deal. > > Party pooper... > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3509. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 21:48:20 -0000

The record for the fastest single solve is 8.91 by Casey Pernsteiner. Like Matt said it might make you depressed or it might make you want to work harder...either way..good look! lol..I can't believe you feel for that...:D --Zarqa Malik--- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" <mmoberly@...> wrote: > > Take a look at the records pages on speedcubing.com. Or maybe it's better > if you don't. Sometimes it just makes me feel depressed. ;-) > > And Chris was joking. "That guy" (Tyson Mao) is the real deal. > > > On 4/13/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@...> wrote: > > > > really? that sucks. What is teh fasted time someone has solved a cube? > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > > > It's just a TV trick. He can't really solve the thing. That guy was > > > such a poser. > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > On 4/10/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@> wrote: > > > > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I am > > not that > > > > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the > > Geek, one > > > > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > > > > > > > Wish I could do that! > > > > > > > > -John > > > > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolv ingrubikscube>" > > on the web. > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube- unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > -- > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3510. Re: [Speed cubing group] New Here :-)
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:30:21 -0000

8.91s for 51 moves. If you consider the time to start/stop the timer. That's at least 6 moves/s on average. I suppose she's got a lube that prevents overheating. Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...> wrote: > > The record for the fastest single solve is 8.91 by Casey > Pernsteiner. Like Matt said it might make you depressed or it might > make you want to work harder...either way..good look! > > lol..I can't believe you feel for that...:D > > --Zarqa Malik--- > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Moberly" > <mmoberly@> wrote: > > > > Take a look at the records pages on speedcubing.com. Or maybe > it's better > > if you don't. Sometimes it just makes me feel depressed. ;-) > > > > And Chris was joking. "That guy" (Tyson Mao) is the real deal. > > > > > > On 4/13/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@> wrote: > > > > > > really? that sucks. What is teh fasted time someone has solved > a cube? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > > > > > It's just a TV trick. He can't really solve the thing. That > guy was > > > > such a poser. > > > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > > > On 4/10/06, johnadams182 <johnadams182@> wrote: > > > > > Hello all, I'm new here (new to message boards actually). I > am > > > not that > > > > > good with a Rubiks Cube BUT if anyone watched Beautya nd the > > > Geek, one > > > > > of teh contestants was REALLY good with one. > > > > > > > > > > Wish I could do that! > > > > > > > > > > -John > > > > > http://www.imaginationrunway.com/puzzle/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > - Visit your > group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolv > ingrubikscube>" > > > on the web. > > > > > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube- > unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://procool.blogspot.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3511. German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:24:31 +0100 (BST)

Exactly a week is away from German Open-2006. Before asking my question, let me wish everyone all the very best. Could you plz share how are you tuning yourself mentally and keeping fit physically for the event? And how you feel emotionally ?!?! What is the climatic condition in Germany nowadays? How big the tournament hall is ? How many are competing in each category ? Who is the hot favorite for each event ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3512. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Ron van Bruchem" <ron@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:45:04 +0200

Hi Bernett, Thanks, I am sure we will have a lot of fun over there! Of course I am practicing more than average shortly before a competition. But I am also busy with the preparation of the competition itself. A lot of small things still need to be done. In the past I tried to mentally prepare for competitions. Now I do not do anything anymore. When I am on stage I just try to feel like I am at home on the sofa. It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. The competition hall has the size of a basketball hall. At the back is a large starge, in the front we will have the tables for puzzle market. You can find information on the registrations at http://www.speedcubing.com/events/gcd2006. 49 competitors from 10 countries. 32 people in 4x4x4! When you check the list you can see the favorites for each event. Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 Exactly a week is away from German Open-2006. Before asking my question, let me wish everyone all the very best. Could you plz share how are you tuning yourself mentally and keeping fit physically for the event? And how you feel emotionally ?!?! What is the climatic condition in Germany nowadays? How big the tournament hall is ? How many are competing in each category ? Who is the hot favorite for each event ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3513. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:14:31 +0100 (BST)

My favorites are as follows 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France 2).444 speed solve - Ron/Lars Vandenberg/Oliver Goucher. 3).555 speed solve - Ron/Lars Vandenberg/Oliver Goucher. 4).333 bld - Joel Van Noort/Jean Pons. 5).Megaminx - Stefan Poachmann 6).Square-1 - Lars Vandenberg 7).Clock - Stefan Poachmann 8).Magic - Stefan Poachmann 9).444 bld - ------------------------- 10).555 bld - ----------------------- J.Bernett Orlando JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: Exactly a week is away from German Open-2006. Before asking my question, let me wish everyone all the very best. Could you plz share how are you tuning yourself mentally and keeping fit physically for the event? And how you feel emotionally ?!?! What is the climatic condition in Germany nowadays? How big the tournament hall is ? How many are competing in each category ? Who is the hot favorite for each event ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3514. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 17:56:10 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 My favorites are as follows 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France Did you know that Anssi will not come? a.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3515. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 16:35:18 -0000

If he isn't preregistered he can't... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnLouis Louis > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > My favorites are as follows > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > > Did you know that Anssi will not come? > > > > > > > a.. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3516. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:27:11 +0200

Did you understand me, Craig? (I just said: "Anssi will not come"). Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Bouchard To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 If he isn't preregistered he can't... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnLouis Louis > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > My favorites are as follows > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > > Did you know that Anssi will not come? > > > > > > > a.. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3517. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:14:59 +0100 (BST)

I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing everything! Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not see me!!!!! J.BERNETT ORLANDO Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 My favorites are as follows 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France Did you know that Anssi will not come? a.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3518. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:12:56 +0100 (BST)

>It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube at all at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees celsius. Best wishes Ron uncle. J.Bernett Orlando Ron van Bruchem <ron@...> wrote: Hi Bernett, Thanks, I am sure we will have a lot of fun over there! Of course I am practicing more than average shortly before a competition. But I am also busy with the preparation of the competition itself. A lot of small things still need to be done. In the past I tried to mentally prepare for competitions. Now I do not do anything anymore. When I am on stage I just try to feel like I am at home on the sofa. It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. The competition hall has the size of a basketball hall. At the back is a large starge, in the front we will have the tables for puzzle market. You can find information on the registrations at http://www.speedcubing.com/events/gcd2006. 49 competitors from 10 countries. 32 people in 4x4x4! When you check the list you can see the favorites for each event. Have fun, Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 Exactly a week is away from German Open-2006. Before asking my question, let me wish everyone all the very best. Could you plz share how are you tuning yourself mentally and keeping fit physically for the event? And how you feel emotionally ?!?! What is the climatic condition in Germany nowadays? How big the tournament hall is ? How many are competing in each category ? Who is the hot favorite for each event ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3519. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:50:08 -0000

I, myself, practice a lot on 222, 333 of course and 333 one-handed. The other events I practice a little but my focus is on those three events. I'm hoping to do a great average for 222, unless I din't get to nervous. Most of the french cubers are going to the french championships, so I guess my money is on Joël van Norrt for the main event, but there are a lot of fast cubers. My goal is to get to the finals. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > My favorites are as follows > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > 2).444 speed solve - Ron/Lars Vandenberg/Oliver Goucher. > 3).555 speed solve - Ron/Lars Vandenberg/Oliver Goucher. > 4).333 bld - Joel Van Noort/Jean Pons. > 5).Megaminx - Stefan Poachmann > 6).Square-1 - Lars Vandenberg > 7).Clock - Stefan Poachmann > 8).Magic - Stefan Poachmann > 9).444 bld - ------------------------- > 10).555 bld - ----------------------- > > J.Bernett Orlando > > JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > Exactly a week is away from German Open-2006. Before asking my question, let me wish everyone all the very best. > > Could you plz share how are you tuning yourself mentally and keeping fit physically for the event? And how you feel emotionally ?!?! > > What is the climatic condition in Germany nowadays? How big the tournament hall is ? How many are competing in each category ? > > Who is the hot favorite for each event ? > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3520. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 20:54:05 -0000

The competition will be held indoors, so the outside temperature is no problem. :-) Keeping your fingers warm is important however, so I'll bring my gloves. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > >It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. > > I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube at all at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees celsius. > > Best wishes Ron uncle. > J.Bernett Orlando > > > Ron van Bruchem <ron@...> wrote: > Hi Bernett, > > Thanks, I am sure we will have a lot of fun over there! > > Of course I am practicing more than average shortly before a competition. But I am also busy with the preparation of the competition itself. A lot of small things still need to be done. In the past I tried to mentally prepare for competitions. Now I do not do anything anymore. When I am on stage I just try to feel like I am at home on the sofa. > > It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. > The competition hall has the size of a basketball hall. At the back is a large starge, in the front we will have the tables for puzzle market. > You can find information on the registrations at http://www.speedcubing.com/events/gcd2006. 49 competitors from 10 countries. 32 people in 4x4x4! > When you check the list you can see the favorites for each event. > > Have fun, > > Ron > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnLouis Louis > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:24 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > Exactly a week is away from German Open-2006. Before asking my question, let me wish everyone all the very best. > > Could you plz share how are you tuning yourself mentally and keeping fit physically for the event? And how you feel emotionally ?!?! > > What is the climatic condition in Germany nowadays? How big the tournament hall is ? How many are competing in each category ? > > Who is the hot favorite for each event ? > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3521. Does anyone have this 3x3 cube?
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 05:49:16 -0000

Hi, all Does anyone have this 3x3 cube? http://tinyurl.com/sxs22 <http://tinyurl.com/sxs22> Is this one suitable for speedcubing? Thank you for replying. :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3522. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 06:57:59 -0000

-20 celsius is quite normal here during the winter... Finnish record is about -55, I think. Here +16 celsius is warm. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > >It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. > > I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube at all at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees celsius. > > Best wishes Ron uncle. > J.Bernett Orlando >
3523. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:13:26 -0000

Here, it's 8-10 celsius nowadays. The spring is delayed a little bit, but it's getting warmer now I think. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > -20 celsius is quite normal here during the winter... > Finnish record is about -55, I think. > Here +16 celsius is warm. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > >It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. > > > > I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube at all > at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees celsius. > > > > Best wishes Ron uncle. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > >
3524. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 10:24:33 +0100 (BST)

Today it is +37 degree celsius here. Yesterday it was 40. You people are lucky to have very cool climate. Even cubing makes you tired here. We have only 3 seasons - hot, hotter , hottest. Wish u good luck Gunner. J.Bernett Orlando Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: Here, it's 8-10 celsius nowadays. The spring is delayed a little bit, but it's getting warmer now I think. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > -20 celsius is quite normal here during the winter... > Finnish record is about -55, I think. > Here +16 celsius is warm. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > >It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. > > > > I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube at all > at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees celsius. > > > > Best wishes Ron uncle. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3525. Re: German open - 2006
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:41:21 -0000

Here in Finland it has never been over 35.9 celsius degrees. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Today it is +37 degree celsius here. Yesterday it was 40. You people are lucky to have very cool climate. Even cubing makes you tired here. We have only 3 seasons - hot, hotter , hottest. > > Wish u good luck Gunner. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: > Here, it's 8-10 celsius nowadays. The spring is delayed a little bit, > but it's getting warmer now I think. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" > <mahtianssi@> wrote: > > > > -20 celsius is quite normal here during the winter... > > Finnish record is about -55, I think. > > Here +16 celsius is warm. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > > > >It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day time. > > > > > > I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube at all > > at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees celsius. > > > > > > Best wishes Ron uncle. > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3526. Re: Does anyone have this 3x3 cube?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 11:15:20 -0000

Yes, I have one. At least I have one that appears identical to that photo. See here: http://tinyurl.com/efwkb And no, they are terrible for speedcubing. It's a shame because the centers have arches and the plastic is nice and soft. But there is no way to get the proper tension due to lack of springs/screws. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > > Hi, all > > Does anyone have this 3x3 cube? http://tinyurl.com/sxs22 > <http://tinyurl.com/sxs22> > > Is this one suitable for speedcubing? > > Thank you for replying. :) > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3527. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: German open - 2006
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:34:18 +0530

I dont check this group quite as often as earlier, but i just wanted to wish everyone good luck. May everyone fulfill their wishes in this competition. Lets see some more records broken this time :-) As mentioned in the rules, the first three qualifying guys will have the honour to send me cubes of their liking. My address will be given to them later :P Sachin. On 4/15/06, Anssi Vanhala <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > Here in Finland it has never been over 35.9 celsius degrees. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > > > Today it is +37 degree celsius here. Yesterday it was 40. You > people are lucky to have very cool climate. Even cubing makes you > tired here. We have only 3 seasons - hot, hotter , hottest. > > > > Wish u good luck Gunner. > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Here, it's 8-10 celsius nowadays. The spring is delayed a little > bit, > > but it's getting warmer now I think. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" > > <mahtianssi@> wrote: > > > > > > -20 celsius is quite normal here during the winter... > > > Finnish record is about -55, I think. > > > Here +16 celsius is warm. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > > > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > > > > > >It is now around 10-12 degrees Celsius around here during day > time. > > > > > > > > I might be freezing at this temp. I may not be able to cube > at all > > > at this temperature. I had never experienced below 16 degrees > celsius. > > > > > > > > Best wishes Ron uncle. > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3528. Re: Centers + pairing up edges avg (4x4x4)
From: "Frank" <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:49:09 -0000

Hi Michael, I took an average and here was the result.. (36.78), 41.20, 42.97, 39.32, 40.10, 41.18, 40.32, 44.78, 39.01, (45.60), 37.10, 43.78 = 40.97 Average I guess I have a long way to go. Frank --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I have a question for the fast 4x4x4 cubers. How long do you need to > solve the centers and pairing up the edges for the 4x4x4? > > Today I took a (rolling) average for this. The times were: > 32.92 36.13 46.87 32.87 36.06 36.66 (1:01.40) 34.59 35.54 36.99 > (30.51) 32.74 ==> 36.14 seconds > > (The 46.87 and 1:01.40 was because I made a mistake.) > > For pairing up the edges I used this method: I solve the first six > pairs at once. After this I (usually) do four pairs at once. And then > the last two pairs if necessary. > > Michael Fung >
3529. Results 4/15
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 17:50:28 -0700

http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 Ryan Patricio is a monster. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3530. Re: Results 4/15
From: "David Skolnik" <lockjaw17des@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 01:45:03 -0000

I agree. He was amazing. His fingers are seriously like twice as long as mine. That's probably why he's so damn good at one handed. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 > > Ryan Patricio is a monster. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3531. US Nationals
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 18:46:10 -0700

San Francisco Exploratorium, Aug. 4, 5, 6. More details to come after I sleep. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3532. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:47:32 +0000 (GMT)

Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 avgs... that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? And what's that "B Final" thing? Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 Ryan Patricio is a monster. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3533. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 02:48:34 +0000 (GMT)

And what are those 99999 times? Pedro Pedro <pedrosino1@...> escreveu: Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 avgs... that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? And what's that "B Final" thing? Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@....edu> escreveu: http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 Ryan Patricio is a monster. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3534. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:15:17 -0700 (PDT)

just figured i'd let you know my 4x4 times aren't on the sheet so they can make it on speedcubing :D ----- Original Message ---- From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:48:34 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15 And what are those 99999 times? Pedro Pedro <pedrosino1@yahoo.com.br> escreveu: Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 avgs... that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? And what's that "B Final" thing? Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 Ryan Patricio is a monster. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3535. No Subject
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 20:20:09 -0700 (PDT)

and by the way, another big thanks to the caltech crew that put this together, it was an amazing tournament, i saw probably 10 12 second solves, its nice to see the progress that the organization as a whole and individual cubers have made. nationals will be absolutely amazing i'm sure so i hope everyone can make it. :) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3536. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 22:39:37 -0700

The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round who wanted to participate. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Pedro wrote: > Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 > avgs... > that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? > And what's that "B Final" thing? > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 > > Ryan Patricio is a monster. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3537. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Centers + pairing up edges avg (4x4x4)
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 09:23:19 +0100 (BST)

Mr.Michael & Mr.Frank, (42.05), 47.59, (51.54), 45.57, 48.25, 50.69, 42.21, 49.24, 44.78, 49.96, 51.19, 41.92 sec. Avg = 47.94 sec. Normally my avg is around 40 sec. This avg was taken when I was not in cubing mood at all. I am happy with the result. J.bernett Orlando Frank <ephem825@...> wrote: Hi Michael, I took an average and here was the result.. (36.78), 41.20, 42.97, 39.32, 40.10, 41.18, 40.32, 44.78, 39.01, (45.60), 37.10, 43.78 = 40.97 Average I guess I have a long way to go. Frank --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...> wrote: > > Hi, > I have a question for the fast 4x4x4 cubers. How long do you need to > solve the centers and pairing up the edges for the 4x4x4? > > Today I took a (rolling) average for this. The times were: > 32.92 36.13 46.87 32.87 36.06 36.66 (1:01.40) 34.59 35.54 36.99 > (30.51) 32.74 ==> 36.14 seconds > > (The 46.87 and 1:01.40 was because I made a mistake.) > > For pairing up the edges I used this method: I solve the first six > pairs at once. After this I (usually) do four pairs at once. And then > the last two pairs if necessary. > > Michael Fung > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3538. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:44:36 +0200

>From where did Daniel Lo come? (Who won the B final). ----- Original Message ----- From: Tyson Mao To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15 The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round who wanted to participate. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Pedro wrote: > Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 > avgs... > that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? > And what's that "B Final" thing? > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 > > Ryan Patricio is a monster. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3539. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 05:04:36 -0700

The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round who wanted to participate. Daniel Lo was attending the competition and did not advance to the second round. Daniel Lo decided he wanted to participate in the Pool B final. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:44 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > From where did Daniel Lo come? (Who won the B final). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tyson Mao > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:39 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15 > > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second > round > who wanted to participate. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Pedro wrote: > >> Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 >> avgs... >> that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? >> And what's that "B Final" thing? >> >> Pedro >> >> Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: >> http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 >> >> Ryan Patricio is a monster. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> >> >> SPONSORED LINKS >> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational >> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games >> >> --------------------------------- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> Service. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3540. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 12:32:48 -0000

I think rune is wondering why he wasn't in round one. No need to be rude. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round > who wanted to participate. > > Daniel Lo was attending the competition and did not advance to the > second round. Daniel Lo decided he wanted to participate in the Pool B > final. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:44 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > From where did Daniel Lo come? (Who won the B final). > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tyson Mao > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15 > > > > > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second > > round > > who wanted to participate. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > >> Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 > >> avgs... > >> that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? > >> And what's that "B Final" thing? > >> > >> Pedro > >> > >> Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > >> http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 > >> > >> Ryan Patricio is a monster. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> > >> > >> SPONSORED LINKS > >> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > >> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > >> > >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > >> Service. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3541. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:05:22 +0200

Right you are, sir! ----- Original Message ----- From: thomkirjava To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15 I think rune is wondering why he wasn't in round one. No need to be rude. ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round > who wanted to participate. > > Daniel Lo was attending the competition and did not advance to the > second round. Daniel Lo decided he wanted to participate in the Pool B > final. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 16, 2006, at 1:44 AM, Rune Wesström wrote: > > > From where did Daniel Lo come? (Who won the B final). > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tyson Mao > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 7:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15 > > > > > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second > > round > > who wanted to participate. > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Apr 15, 2006, at 7:47 PM, Pedro wrote: > > > >> Oh, man...it seems that it was a great tournament...a lot of sub-15 > >> avgs... > >> that 20.09 is VERY fast...does someone got it on video? > >> And what's that "B Final" thing? > >> > >> Pedro > >> > >> Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > >> http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 > >> > >> Ryan Patricio is a monster. > >> > >> Tyson Mao > >> Astrophysics '06 > >> California Institute of Technology > >> > >> > >> > >> SPONSORED LINKS > >> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > >> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > >> > >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > >> Service. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3542. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 16:18:33 -0000

Daniel Lo was the organizer. That's also why Tyson could compete in speedsolving. Macky > I think rune is wondering why he wasn't in round one. > > No need to be rude. > > ~Thom
3543. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 17:22:50 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > My favorites are as follows > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France I would be quite surprised if that happens, since nobody from France is comming ;).
3544. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 20:15:50 +0200

Have you missed this, Joël? ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing everything! Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not see me!!!!! J.BERNETT ORLANDO Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 My favorites are as follows 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France Did you know that Anssi will not come? a.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3545. "magnetic acrylic rubik's cube"
From: "Joe Allen" <wallen@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:44:11 -0000

http://tinyurl.com/s74h4 I don't know if you guys have seen this already...but pretty neat none the less.
3546. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 19:48:41 -0000

It should be noted, however, that Tyson was still doing the annoucements as well as scrambling and judging in puzzles in which he didn't compete. Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > Daniel Lo was the organizer. That's also why Tyson could compete in > speedsolving. > > Macky > > > > I think rune is wondering why he wasn't in round one. > > > > No need to be rude. > > > > ~Thom
3547. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 14:03:34 -0700

I try not to use that as an excuse for my third round results. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 16, 2006, at 12:48 PM, mackymakisumi wrote: > It should be noted, however, that Tyson was still doing the > annoucements as well as scrambling and judging in puzzles in which he > didn't compete. > > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" > <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: >> >> Daniel Lo was the organizer. That's also why Tyson could compete in >> speedsolving. >> >> Macky >> >> >>> I think rune is wondering why he wasn't in round one. >>> >>> No need to be rude. >>> >>> ~Thom > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3548. Re: "magnetic acrylic rubik's cube"
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:13:17 -0000

That is unbelievably cool, I wish I had the machine skills and funding to make one. Higher order cubes possible like this? -Daniel --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Allen" <wallen@...> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/s74h4 > > I don't know if you guys have seen this already...but pretty neat none > the less. >
3549. Ryan Patricio 3x3x3 one-handed 20.09
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:54:09 -0700

Does anyone have this video? Thanks, -Chris
3550. Kernel density estimate...
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 23:50:44 -0000

Hey, http://www.wessa.net/rwasp_density.wasp I think this is pretty cool... Just enter a few (preferably a lot) of consecutive times in the 'Data' box, and click 'compute'. I made this one, based on my latest average of 100 cubes: http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/kernel_density_estimate.png I'd like to compare this to others... - Joël.
3551. solving cross and first F2L pair
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 00:56:52 -0000

Greetings. Slowly, my average times have been coming down to around 80 secs and I think sub 60 is possible with good OLL and PLL. I've been working a lot on the cross and my question is what strategy does one take when looking for the first pair after the cross? Do most people follow corners and focus on a corner in the U layer during pre-inspection? Or some other method? Thanks. Roger Wood
3552. Re: [Speed cubing group] Ryan Patricio 3x3x3 one-handed 20.09
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 18:24:39 -0700

Someone has the video. Hopefully they'll step forward soon. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 16, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Chris Hunt wrote: > Does anyone have this video? > > Thanks, > > -Chris > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3553. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:47:51 -0300 (ART)

And what's that 99999,00 times? Pedro Tyson Mao <tmao@....edu> escreveu: http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 Ryan Patricio is a monster. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3554. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 01:51:29 -0000

I believe those are DNF's. For the purposes of an average of 5, the spreadsheet counts it as the worst time. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > And what's that 99999,00 times? > > Pedro > > Tyson Mao <tmao@...> escreveu: > http://tinyurl.com/zg8e4 > > Ryan Patricio is a monster. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3555. Re: "magnetic acrylic rubik's cube"
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:02:50 -0000

^_^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDY80TsTuQ --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...> wrote: > > That is unbelievably cool, I wish I had the machine skills and funding > to make one. Higher order cubes possible like this? > > -Daniel > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Allen" > <wallen@> wrote: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/s74h4 > > > > I don't know if you guys have seen this already...but pretty neat none > > the less. > > >
3556. Re: solving cross and first F2L pair
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:05:45 -0000

Usually, when you start off with the Fridrich method, you should do a "slow cross", this allows you to search for the pair while forming the cross. As you do this more and more, you'll starting picking it up sooner. It'll all come with time and practice. -Toby --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...> wrote: > > Greetings. > > Slowly, my average times have been coming down to around 80 secs and I > think sub 60 is possible with good OLL and PLL. > > I've been working a lot on the cross and my question is what strategy > does one take when looking for the first pair after the cross? Do > most people follow corners and focus on a corner in the U layer during > pre-inspection? Or some other method? > > Thanks. > > Roger Wood >
3557. Re: "magnetic acrylic rubik's cube"
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:27:11 -0000

http://www.flickr.com/photos/garyfixler/tags/rubikscube/ http://www.instructables.com/ex/i/C3178D8E1D0910299AD7001143E7E506/ --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > ^_^ > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaDY80TsTuQ > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Hayes" > <swedishlf@> wrote: > > > > That is unbelievably cool, I wish I had the machine skills and funding > > to make one. Higher order cubes possible like this? > > > > -Daniel > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Allen" > > <wallen@> wrote: > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/s74h4 > > > > > > I don't know if you guys have seen this already...but pretty neat > none > > > the less. > > > > > >
3558. Hello/New Beginner.
From: "juggle508" <kellyhickman508@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:50:57 -0000

Hello all. I have always thought that the Rubik's Cube was a cool hobby but never got into it. I am now an owner of one and would appreciate any help that you all would give a begginer. Beginner solutions, advice, and any other info is accepted. Thanks for anyone who replies. Kelly from Oklahoma.
3559. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:54:53 -0000

All -- Well, I have to say that after all the flame wars back and forth on topics like this (B final, tiering, age divisions, etc), you guys found a very reasonable way to do it: "Didn't make second round? Want to keep competing? Join in the B final!" I know I would have given it another shot! Well done - looks like it was a great competition, yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round > who wanted to participate.
3560. RE: [Speed cubing group] Hello/New Beginner.
From: "Hai Pham" <aznboi1234321@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 22:57:37 -0400

You shld try developing your own solution. Take some time to figure it out, itll be worth it in the end. But if you really need some tutorials, you should goto www.solvethecube.co.uk <http://www.solvethecube.co.uk/> an look for the solution there. Good luck! _____ From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of juggle508 Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 10:51 PM To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Speed cubing group] Hello/New Beginner. Hello all. I have always thought that the Rubik's Cube was a cool hobby but never got into it. I am now an owner of one and would appreciate any help that you all would give a begginer. Beginner solutions, advice, and any other info is accepted. Thanks for anyone who replies. Kelly from Oklahoma. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+gam e&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+g ame&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=aR-DP6ec8tvroD_ujh4RIQ> puzzle game Free <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzl e+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puz zle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=_HQyec41D62inOWXGV6LE Q> puzzle inlay games Educational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+p uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word +puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=_iBaOcMxfjGOZwx7B 5W8GQ> game and puzzle Word <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game& w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+gam e&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=h4cnVVmR9GjoR6io3-aTgg> puzzle game Puzzle <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=F ree+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5 =Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=mbaDyh-YZXs1tlnkdvXiVA> games Game <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Game+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Fr ee+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5= Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=zlOQ1RvV4Jb6bmAF-XtKjw> puzzle _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube> " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscri be> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3561. Re: [Speed cubing group] Results 4/15
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 02:59:45 -0000

Now, all I need is an "Old Folks" category and I'll have two chances for some glory. Also, nice job on recognition of top under-15 solvers with the prizes. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...> wrote: > > All -- > > Well, I have to say that after all the flame wars back and forth on topics like this (B final, > tiering, age divisions, etc), you guys found a very reasonable way to do it: "Didn't make > second round? Want to keep competing? Join in the B final!" I know I would have given it > another shot! > > Well done - looks like it was a great competition, > > yeff > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> wrote: > > > > The "B final" was for everyone who didn't advance into the second round > > who wanted to participate. >
3562. Re: US Nationals
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:04:03 -0000

Excellent! I'll block it out on the calendar right now. Uh oh - did I promise to consider making some sort of show? Darn me and my foolish tongue. Let me think about it and try out some test runs with video and imac and I'll see what I can do. yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > San Francisco Exploratorium, Aug. 4, 5, 6. More details to come after > I sleep. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3563. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 05:42:50 +0100 (BST)

Wish you all the very best Joel. You/Ron are my hot favorite for 333 and you are the one for 333 bld. J.Bernett Orlando Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: Have you missed this, Joël? ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing everything! Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not see me!!!!! J.BERNETT ORLANDO Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 My favorites are as follows 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France Did you know that Anssi will not come? a.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3564. Re: Kernel density estimate...
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:36:51 -0000

Although my times do not compare, my kernel density is quite funny looking. http://tinyurl.com/zofva Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey, > > http://www.wessa.net/rwasp_density.wasp > > I think this is pretty cool... Just enter a few (preferably a lot) of > consecutive times in the 'Data' box, and click 'compute'. > > I made this one, based on my latest average of 100 cubes: > > http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/kernel_density_estimate.png > > I'd like to compare this to others... > > - Joël. >
3565. time distribution - quick questions
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:10:32 -0700 (PDT)

Im sure this has been discussed before.. but... What is the average time distribution for the best cubists in terms of F2L/LL? How long does Macky take to solve the F2L on average? How about cubists who average 20 seconds, and those who average around 30 seconds? How many moves does it take you? (does this include cross?) Just wondering... I average around 45-50 right now. David --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1��/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3566. Re: [Speed cubing group] time distribution - quick questions
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:37:56 +0200

I'm around 19-20 seconds, and usualle F2L takes me usually 12 seconds, and LL 78 seconds... but it's getting better :-) Gilles. 2006/4/17, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>: > Im sure this has been discussed before.. but... > > What is the average time distribution for the best cubists in terms of F2L/LL? How long does Macky take to solve the F2L on average? > > How about cubists who average 20 seconds, and those who average around 30 seconds? > > How many moves does it take you? (does this include cross?) > > Just wondering... I average around 45-50 right now. > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3567. Help! Megaminx minor calamity...
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:44:41 -0000

Hi All -- I've had a minor calamity with my megaminx, and could use a couple pointers in the right direction. I have a 12-color tiled megaminx, and the tiles fall off with some regularity (i'm an ape with my turning style). So, I usually glue them back on and all is fine. Well, I was gluing on a tile (using Krazy Glue) and the glue was warmer than I thought it was so it *shot* out of the bottle, went right onto the Megaminx, and started seeping in the cracks between faces! Panicked, I quickly turned it upside down and sopped up as much glue as I could but I wasn't fast enough. As a result, three cubies (a corner and two edges) are currently *cemented* to a center. I'm currently planning on trying to saw through the cement with a scalpel or razor blade, but I realize it would be easier if the Megaminx was taken apart (at least partially). However, I can't find disassembly instructions. I found Grant and Jaap's web pages with solutions, I found Stefan's web page with various puzzle disassembly instructions (but no megaminx) and I found the speedcubing records for assembly (implying that Stefan and Parker have taken one apart). Alas, no posted disassembly instructions. If someone could send me a link or some instructions, I'd greatly appreciate it! My email is yeff@.... yeff
3568. Re: time distribution - quick questions
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:50:54 -0000

David -- I'm definitely not one of the "best" cubists, but I average slightly under 35 seconds. Cross/F2L takes a little under 20 seconds, my 4- step LL takes about 10-15 seconds. Overall move count is 70-80, split up as 40 for Cross/F2L and 30-40 for 4-step LL. LL specifics: Method is Orient Edges, Permute Corners, Orient Corners, Permute Edges; Worst case move count for LL would be about 50 (longest algs, quarter turn measurement); worst case time would be about 17 seconds (longest algs, no mistakes). yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > How about cubists who average 20 seconds, and those who average around 30 seconds? > > How many moves does it take you? (does this include cross?)
3569. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help! Megaminx minor calamity...
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:53:36 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Jeff, You can disassemble the minx similar to the 3x3. If the minx is too tight, then you can pop a center cap off, and loosen the screws. Hope this helps! Frank Jeff Soesbe <yeff@...> wrote: Hi All -- I've had a minor calamity with my megaminx, and could use a couple pointers in the right direction. I have a 12-color tiled megaminx, and the tiles fall off with some regularity (i'm an ape with my turning style). So, I usually glue them back on and all is fine. Well, I was gluing on a tile (using Krazy Glue) and the glue was warmer than I thought it was so it *shot* out of the bottle, went right onto the Megaminx, and started seeping in the cracks between faces! Panicked, I quickly turned it upside down and sopped up as much glue as I could but I wasn't fast enough. As a result, three cubies (a corner and two edges) are currently *cemented* to a center. I'm currently planning on trying to saw through the cement with a scalpel or razor blade, but I realize it would be easier if the Megaminx was taken apart (at least partially). However, I can't find disassembly instructions. I found Grant and Jaap's web pages with solutions, I found Stefan's web page with various puzzle disassembly instructions (but no megaminx) and I found the speedcubing records for assembly (implying that Stefan and Parker have taken one apart). Alas, no posted disassembly instructions. If someone could send me a link or some instructions, I'd greatly appreciate it! My email is yeff@.... yeff SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3570. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help! Megaminx minor calamity...
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:17:45 -0700 (PDT)

The mefferts megaminx I have (I assume this is the one you have) will pop if it is poorly lined up... just disalign one of the faces, and then turn another one to cut through that face... it should create a lot of tension, and certain pieces will soon pop... obviously once one piece is out it is easy to get the rest of them out. good luck!! David Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: Hi Jeff, You can disassemble the minx similar to the 3x3. If the minx is too tight, then you can pop a center cap off, and loosen the screws. Hope this helps! Frank Jeff Soesbe <yeff@...> wrote: Hi All -- I've had a minor calamity with my megaminx, and could use a couple pointers in the right direction. I have a 12-color tiled megaminx, and the tiles fall off with some regularity (i'm an ape with my turning style). So, I usually glue them back on and all is fine. Well, I was gluing on a tile (using Krazy Glue) and the glue was warmer than I thought it was so it *shot* out of the bottle, went right onto the Megaminx, and started seeping in the cracks between faces! Panicked, I quickly turned it upside down and sopped up as much glue as I could but I wasn't fast enough. As a result, three cubies (a corner and two edges) are currently *cemented* to a center. I'm currently planning on trying to saw through the cement with a scalpel or razor blade, but I realize it would be easier if the Megaminx was taken apart (at least partially). However, I can't find disassembly instructions. I found Grant and Jaap's web pages with solutions, I found Stefan's web page with various puzzle disassembly instructions (but no megaminx) and I found the speedcubing records for assembly (implying that Stefan and Parker have taken one apart). Alas, no posted disassembly instructions. If someone could send me a link or some instructions, I'd greatly appreciate it! My email is yeff@.... yeff SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3571. LL trainer
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 17:22:43 -0000

Hello cubers, I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David Barr. You can Download the LL trainer here. http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a while. i hope you all like this and any commands is good. Greets to all Alexander
3572. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:56:49 -0700 (PDT)

I will probably use this program, thanks. However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able to turn it off though. I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight advantage in terms of recognition time. perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the picture off? thanks David a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello cubers, I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David Barr. You can Download the LL trainer here. http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a while. i hope you all like this and any commands is good. Greets to all Alexander --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3573. Re: time distribution - quick questions
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:04:46 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > I'm around 19-20 seconds, and usualle F2L takes me usually 12 seconds, > and LL 78 seconds... > but it's getting better :-) > > Gilles. Shame that it takes you over a minute to do LL...Or did you mean 7-8 seconds? :-) Me, I'm around 20-25 seconds. F2L is usually 15-16 seconds, LL 7-9 seconds. Did an average of 10 for each: F2L Average: 15.84 seconds Individual Times: 15.08, 18.94, (11.90), 14.40, 14.41, 12.39, 17.82, 17.83, 15.75, 19.10, 12.68, (22.90) LL Average: 07.75 seconds Individual Times: 08.71, 08.35, 07.79, (09.29), 09.06, 07.96, (05.53), 07.96, 05.96, 06.98, 07.21, 07.48 So I seriously need to work on F2L. I get sub-15 F2L if I don't hesitate or mess up. In other words, I messed up and/or hesitated on nearly every F2L solve. That sup-20 was pathetic. Screwed up the cross, put the wrong corner in the first F2L slot...bleagh. Tim
3574. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 15:17:41 -0300 (ART)

Well...you can just put a piece of paper over the picture...haha But...does the countdown has sound? mine is not making any sound... Pedro David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> escreveu: I will probably use this program, thanks. However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able to turn it off though. I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight advantage in terms of recognition time. perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the picture off? thanks David a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello cubers, I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David Barr. You can Download the LL trainer here. http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a while. i hope you all like this and any commands is good. Greets to all Alexander --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3575. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:37:31 -0000

No there is no sound yet sorry :( --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Well...you can just put a piece of paper over the picture...haha > > But...does the countdown has sound? mine is not making any sound... > > Pedro > > David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> escreveu: > I will probably use this program, thanks. > > However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able to turn it off though. > > I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight advantage in terms of recognition time. > > perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the picture off? > > thanks > > David > a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hello cubers, > > I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of > 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) > > So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David Barr. > > > You can Download the LL trainer here. > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip > > There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a > while. > > i hope you all like this and any commands is good. > > Greets to all > > Alexander > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3576. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:42:37 -0000

Turn the pic off is a nice thing.I add it to the to do list :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I will probably use this program, thanks. > > However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able to turn it off though. > > I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight advantage in terms of recognition time. > > perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the picture off? > > thanks > > David > a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hello cubers, > > I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of > 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) > > So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David Barr. > > > You can Download the LL trainer here. > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip > > There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a > while. > > i hope you all like this and any commands is good. > > Greets to all > > Alexander > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3577. Re: time distribution - quick questions
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:55:18 -0000

I'm near the 30-second mark; mine takes roughly 20 for F2L, 10 for LL. You can see the breakdown on the subtitles on this clip: http://tinyurl.com/epbd3 Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > Im sure this has been discussed before.. but... > > What is the average time distribution for the best cubists in terms of F2L/LL? How long does Macky take to solve the F2L on average? > > How about cubists who average 20 seconds, and those who average around 30 seconds? > > How many moves does it take you? (does this include cross?) > > Just wondering... I average around 45-50 right now. > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3578. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Dan" <dan_j_harris@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:58:24 -0000

Yes, I would put my money on Joel too... maybe if I do that he will get nervous and give me a chance ;) Hehe not really of course :) I am really looking forward to seeing all of you again! DanH :) PS Sorry I have been away for a while, but hopefully you will see and hear more from me again now. Well, perhaps that should be unfortunately, I don't want to sound arrogant or anything ;) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Wish you all the very best Joel. You/Ron are my hot favorite for 333 and you are the one for 333 bld. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Have you missed this, Joël? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnLouis Louis > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. > > Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing everything! > > Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not see me!!!!! > > J.BERNETT ORLANDO > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnLouis Louis > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > My favorites are as follows > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > > Did you know that Anssi will not come? > > > > > > > a.. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3579. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Jasmine Lee" <speedcuber@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:24:41 +0100

Hi Everyone, Have a great time at the German Comp this weekend. I would be going too if the date didn't clash with my brother's wedding! So instead, I'm now sitting at Heathrow airport waiting for my flight to Australia. I'll be back in the UK next month, but unfortunately not in time for the Belgium comp, so I'll miss that too! I think I'll probably be able to make it to the Dutch Open though, so maybe I'll see you all in The Netherlands later this year. :) Jasmine http://speedcuber.blogspot.com On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 18:58:24 -0000, "Dan" <dan_j_harris@...> said: > > Yes, I would put my money on Joel too... maybe if I do that he will > get nervous and give me a chance ;) > Hehe not really of course :) I am really looking forward to seeing > all of you again! > DanH :) > PS Sorry I have been away for a while, but hopefully you will see > and hear more from me again now. Well, perhaps that should be > unfortunately, I don't want to sound arrogant or anything ;) > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > > > Wish you all the very best Joel. You/Ron are my hot favorite for > 333 and you are the one for 333 bld. > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Have you missed this, Joël? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: JohnLouis Louis > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > > > > I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from > France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. > > > > Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are > registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing > everything! > > > > Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right > there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not see > me!!!!! > > > > J.BERNETT ORLANDO > > > > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: JohnLouis Louis > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > > > > My favorites are as follows > > > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > > > > Did you know that Anssi will not come? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! 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3580. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:03:59 +0530

Hey Alexander could you tell ur mail id, i just had some questions abt the program, and also some bugs i found. Lets talk personally. Sachin. On 4/18/06, a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Turn the pic off is a nice thing.I add it to the to do list :) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > > > I will probably use this program, thanks. > > > > However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I > don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able > to turn it off though. > > > > I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of > the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c > even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight > advantage in terms of recognition time. > > > > perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the > picture off? > > > > thanks > > > > David > > a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hello cubers, > > > > I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of > > 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) > > > > So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David > Barr. > > > > > > You can Download the LL trainer here. > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip > > > > There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a > > while. > > > > i hope you all like this and any commands is good. > > > > Greets to all > > > > Alexander > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3581. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 19:43:30 -0000

My adress is talesatchellodotnl or go here http://www.freejavachat.com/chat.php?chan=Rubik im there alot :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...> wrote: > > Hey Alexander could you tell ur mail id, i just had some questions abt > the program, and also some bugs i found. Lets talk personally. > > Sachin. > > On 4/18/06, a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Turn the pic off is a nice thing.I add it to the to do list :) > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > > > I will probably use this program, thanks. > > > > > > However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I > > don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able > > to turn it off though. > > > > > > I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of > > the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c > > even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight > > advantage in terms of recognition time. > > > > > > perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the > > picture off? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > David > > > a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hello cubers, > > > > > > I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of > > > 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) > > > > > > So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David > > Barr. > > > > > > > > > You can Download the LL trainer here. > > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip > > > > > > There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a > > > while. > > > > > > i hope you all like this and any commands is good. > > > > > > Greets to all > > > > > > Alexander > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3582. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help! Megaminx minor calamity...
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:14:24 -0000

Hey, that worked! Popping an edge was my first thought, but the Megaminx was a little resistant so I wasn't sure if that was the case. Spurred on by Frank's endorsement, I put more force into it and it worked just fine. Thanks, Frank! yeff ps - and yes, I'll be more careful with the Krazy Glue in the future. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Hi Jeff, > > You can disassemble the minx similar to the 3x3. If the minx is too tight, then you can pop a center cap off, and loosen the screws. Hope this helps! > > Frank > > Jeff Soesbe <yeff@...> wrote: > Hi All -- > > I've had a minor calamity with my megaminx, and could use a couple > pointers in the right direction. > > I have a 12-color tiled megaminx, and the tiles fall off with some > regularity (i'm an ape with my turning style). So, I usually glue > them back on and all is fine. > > Well, I was gluing on a tile (using Krazy Glue) and the glue was > warmer than I thought it was so it *shot* out of the bottle, went > right onto the Megaminx, and started seeping in the cracks between > faces! > > Panicked, I quickly turned it upside down and sopped up as much glue > as I could but I wasn't fast enough. As a result, three cubies (a > corner and two edges) are currently *cemented* to a center. > > I'm currently planning on trying to saw through the cement with a > scalpel or razor blade, but I realize it would be easier if the > Megaminx was taken apart (at least partially). However, I can't find > disassembly instructions. > > I found Grant and Jaap's web pages with solutions, I found Stefan's > web page with various puzzle disassembly instructions (but no > megaminx) and I found the speedcubing records for assembly (implying > that Stefan and Parker have taken one apart). Alas, no posted > disassembly instructions. > > If someone could send me a link or some instructions, I'd greatly > appreciate it! My email is yeff@... > > yeff > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3583. new celebrity cuber (or wannabe)
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:20:55 -0000

Folks -- On the back of a recent issue of The New Yorker, there's an American Express ad featuring M. Night Shyamalan (director of "Sixth Sense", "Unbreakable", "Signs", etc). The ad consists of a picture of Shyamalan, along with his apparently handwritten responses to various questions. To the question of "Childhood Ambition", his response is "Rubik's cube champion." You can see the ad at the URL: http://www.mylifemycard.com/mylifemycard.html. In the picture box at the lower middle, move the mouse to the sides until you see a guy sitting at a chair with a pad in his lap (his signature will be on the right). Click on the picture to bring up the ad. yeff
3584. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 20:29:20 -0000

If you want to have a chance, just stand 3 meters in front of me (or the minimum distance WCA will allow), and shout: 'JOEL JOEL JOEL WE LOVE YOU!!!', as I am solving. ;) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" <dan_j_harris@...> wrote: > > Yes, I would put my money on Joel too... maybe if I do that he will > get nervous and give me a chance ;) > Hehe not really of course :) I am really looking forward to seeing > all of you again! > > DanH :) > > PS Sorry I have been away for a while, but hopefully you will see > and hear more from me again now. Well, perhaps that should be > unfortunately, I don't want to sound arrogant or anything ;) > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > Wish you all the very best Joel. You/Ron are my hot favorite for > 333 and you are the one for 333 bld. > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > Have you missed this, Joël? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: JohnLouis Louis > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > > > > I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from > France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. > > > > Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are > registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing > everything! > > > > Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right > there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not see > me!!!!! > > > > J.BERNETT ORLANDO > > > > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: JohnLouis Louis > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > > > > My favorites are as follows > > > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > > > > Did you know that Anssi will not come? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------------- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game > Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of Service. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3585. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 21:57:48 -0000

Joel, the only problem is, some of us might actually mean it :( Hehehehe...u know what I'm talking about :p Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > If you want to have a chance, just stand 3 meters in front of me (or > the minimum distance WCA will allow), and shout: 'JOEL JOEL JOEL WE > LOVE YOU!!!', as I am solving. > > ;) > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Dan" > <dan_j_harris@> wrote: > > > > Yes, I would put my money on Joel too... maybe if I do that he will > > get nervous and give me a chance ;) > > Hehe not really of course :) I am really looking forward to seeing > > all of you again! > > > > DanH :) > > > > PS Sorry I have been away for a while, but hopefully you will see > > and hear more from me again now. Well, perhaps that should be > > unfortunately, I don't want to sound arrogant or anything ;) > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > > > Wish you all the very best Joel. You/Ron are my hot favorite for > > 333 and you are the one for 333 bld. > > > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > Have you missed this, Joël? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: JohnLouis Louis > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:14 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > > > > > > > I find, not only Annssi is pre-registered but also no one from > > France pre-registered. In such case I bet on Joel/Ron. > > > > > > Wow! 32 for 444 and 22 for 555 and 19 for 333 bld are > > registered. It is going to be all fun there. I will be missing > > everything! > > > > > > Thanks Ron uncle, for all your informations. I will be right > > there in the hall with you all mentally, but you all could not > see > > me!!!!! > > > > > > J.BERNETT ORLANDO > > > > > > > > > Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: JohnLouis Louis > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 5:14 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > > > > > > > My favorites are as follows > > > > > > 1).333 speed solve - Someone from France > > > > > > Did you know that Anssi will not come? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle > game > > Puzzle games > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all > the > > time. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ----------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms > > of Service. > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ----------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > > time. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
3586. Re: Hello/New Beginner.
From: "juggle508" <kellyhickman508@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:25:29 -0000

Okay, I have learned how to do the first layer but i can;t keep the pieces in the "T" as in this figure. http://www.geocities.com/jasmine_ellen/RubiksCubeSolution.html (at the spot that says "This is what the first layer should look like when finished." right before it says THE MIDDLE LAYER. Why cant i do this? I don;t get it....whats the matter? Kelly.
3587. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:45:47 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > If you want to have a chance, just stand 3 meters in front of me (or > the minimum distance WCA will allow), and shout: 'JOEL JOEL JOEL WE > LOVE YOU!!!', as I am solving. Looking forward to that. Cheers! Stefan
3588. Re: [Speed cubing group] LL trainer
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 01:53:37 -0000

Maybe for the next version. But for the sound it will take a while for me :) im not that good at programming :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > No there is no sound yet sorry :( > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Well...you can just put a piece of paper over the picture...haha > > > > But...does the countdown has sound? mine is not making any > sound... > > > > Pedro > > > > David Pritts <ladartfrog@> escreveu: > > I will probably use this program, thanks. > > > > However, what is the point of having a 15 second countdown? I > don't see why any countdown is really necessary.. at least I'm able > to turn it off though. > > > > I am also not sure why anyone would need to have a picture of > the cube..... seems to me that it makes the time less realistic, b/c > even if you try not to look at it, you already have a slight > advantage in terms of recognition time. > > > > perhaps in future versions, the user will be able to turn the > picture off? > > > > thanks > > > > David > > a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hello cubers, > > > > I know the LL is not the main key its F2L but if you have a F2l of > > 12 sec and a LL of 20 thats not good :) > > > > So this Tool came up to me.And started working on it with David > Barr. > > > > > > You can Download the LL trainer here. > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/LL-trainer1.9.zip > > > > There will be some changes in the future but i stick to this for a > > while. > > > > i hope you all like this and any commands is good. > > > > Greets to all > > > > Alexander > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e- mail > no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3589. Re: Hello/New Beginner.
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:22:14 -0000

Hi Kelly, First of all, you should look for a piece that is in the D layer (the last layer), that has to go to the middle layer. Look what colors that piece has. In the example, red blue is chosen, so the cube is rotated with red to the left, and blue to the front. But if the piece you found is blue/orange, you have to rotate, so the blue center (the blue face) is at the left, and orange is on the front. Then rotate that piece in the D layer under it's corresponding center (so the colors match). The T pattern can be on the LEFT face, in that case, D L D' L' D' F' D F will solve the edge piece to the middle layer. If the T pattern is on the FRONT face, D' F' D F D L D' L' will bring the piece to the middle layer. Also read the part about "What if the edge piece is not in the last layer?" on the website! If you still have difficulties, try my website: http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php?location=tutorial1 I think this tutorial is quite beginner friendly... Good luck! Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "juggle508" <kellyhickman508@...> wrote: > > Okay, I have learned how to do the first layer but i can;t keep the > pieces in the "T" as in this figure. > http://www.geocities.com/jasmine_ellen/RubiksCubeSolution.html > (at the spot that says "This is what the first layer should look like > when finished." right before it says THE MIDDLE LAYER. Why cant i do > this? I don;t get it....whats the matter? Kelly. >
3590. Re: Hello/New Beginner.
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 10:26:38 -0000

Sorry, the last part has gone wrong.. It should be: The T pattern can be on the FRONT face, in that case, D L D' L' D' F' D F will solve the edge piece to the middle layer. If the T pattern is on the LEFT face, D' F' D F D L D' L' will bring the piece to the middle layer. It's because of the L and F faces that are used, instead of F and R.. Why Jasmine..? :p - Joël --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hi Kelly, > > First of all, you should look for a piece that is in the D layer (the > last layer), that has to go to the middle layer. Look what colors that > piece has. In the example, red blue is chosen, so the cube is rotated > with red to the left, and blue to the front. But if the piece you > found is blue/orange, you have to rotate, so the blue center (the blue > face) is at the left, and orange is on the front. Then rotate that > piece in the D layer under it's corresponding center (so the colors > match). The T pattern can be on the LEFT face, in that case, D L D' L' > D' F' D F will solve the edge piece to the middle layer. If the T > pattern is on the FRONT face, D' F' D F D L D' L' will bring the piece > to the middle layer. > > Also read the part about "What if the edge piece is not in the last > layer?" on the website! > > If you still have difficulties, try my website: > > http://www.math.leidenuniv.nl/~jnoort/index.php?location=tutorial1 > > I think this tutorial is quite beginner friendly... > > Good luck! > > Joël. > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "juggle508" > <kellyhickman508@> wrote: > > > > Okay, I have learned how to do the first layer but i can;t keep the > > pieces in the "T" as in this figure. > > http://www.geocities.com/jasmine_ellen/RubiksCubeSolution.html > > (at the spot that says "This is what the first layer should look > like > > when finished." right before it says THE MIDDLE LAYER. Why cant i do > > this? I don;t get it....whats the matter? Kelly. > > >
3591. Re: solving cross and first F2L pair
From: "Stacie Wood" <pawsnwhiskers@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:37:00 -0000

I guess what I'm thinking is that I've heard people on this forum suggest that during the 15 sec pre-inspection, they have the cross solution in their head + the first pair in the F2L. Is there any particular strategy people use? To me, it would seem logical to follow the corners of the D layer, as they seem easy to spot on the U layer, however, I was seeing if anyone else had thoughts. Thanks. Roger Wood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > > Usually, when you start off with the Fridrich method, you should do a > "slow cross", this allows you to search for the pair while forming the > cross. As you do this more and more, you'll starting picking it up > sooner. It'll all come with time and practice. > -Toby > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stacie Wood" > <pawsnwhiskers@> wrote: > > > > Greetings. > > > > Slowly, my average times have been coming down to around 80 secs and I > > think sub 60 is possible with good OLL and PLL. > > > > I've been working a lot on the cross and my question is what strategy > > does one take when looking for the first pair after the cross? Do > > most people follow corners and focus on a corner in the U layer during > > pre-inspection? Or some other method? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Roger Wood > > >
3592. SPeed DIstributiOn... How do you get to sub 15?
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:27:36 -0000

HEllo All It has been a while since I had looked at speedcubing.com and WOW! 25 people have a sub 15 average! 17 people are sub 14.. That means that there are 25 people that can help me. I got too frustrated timing myself, so I have not taken an average in a while. And my stackmat broke. I was always sub 25 but never sub 20. How does a 13 sec average break down? Cross 1.5 P1 1.5 P2 1.5 P3 1.5 P4 1.5 OLL 2.5 PLL 3.0
3593. My 4x4 IDEA
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:55:04 -0000

HEllo I recently posted about a 4x4 approach. I don't know if anyone else uses this approach, but I like it. http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/28011 NEw 4x4 approach? BASICALLY: 1. 4x3x1 block 2. 5 centers 3. pair up 9 edges 4. finish with a roux solve (35 moves w/o accounting for parities) I have been using this and have done pretty well with it. I always start with the same 4x3x1 block (white/orange), which makes center recognition easier (I do Green, Red, Orange, Blue). I pair up 6 edges and then pair up 3more to make the 3x3. I can do the edges very fast now. I waste a lot of time on building the block (30s?) and a lot of time on the centers (20s?) RIght now I can only average about 2:10. Best time is around 90 seconds. Lots of sub 2min solves Jason Kovacic QUESTIONS What is a good goal for a 4x3x1 block on a 4x4? 15 s? What is the fastest way to do the ORIENTATION PARITY?
3594. My new 4x4 IDEA
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:33:13 -0000

HEllo Again THIS method doesn't require that you do the centers and then pair up edges. The Idea instead is to do the corners first, and then do centers and edges simultaneously at the end. THE 4x4 is my new favorite cube. It can be a 4x4, a 3x3 or a 2x2. Usually we transform a scrambled 4x4 into a scrambled 3x3. WHy not instead transform the scrambled 4x4 into a scrambled 2x2? You would have to look at each corner as its own entity, and try to link 3 edges and 3 centers to each corner. If this can be successfully done, then you are left with nothing but a 2x2. 20 moves is a lot better than 55... Orientation parity can't occur. It doesn't seem like the permutation parity would come up either. If I can take a New 4x4 and scramble it into a 2x2, and then scramble it into randomness... DOes it stand to reason that I should be able to do these steps in reverse order? Is this a possible method? Has anyone else tried this? Can anyone help me with this Jason Kovacic
3595. Re: My 4x4 IDEA
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:49:05 -0000

Hi :-) I can do a complete first layer in sub 15 secs on a good day. So a good target for the 4x3x1 block is maybe 12 secs. Note that u will probably be slower cause u have to be selective what pieces u solve, whereas while doing a complete layer there is more freedom in how to solve the various cubies :-) Regarding orientation parity it depends on what u have to preserve. For a pure version check out the ones on Stefan Pochmanns site: http://www.stefan- pochmann.de/spocc/other_stuff/4x4_5x5_algs/#FixOrientationParity Good luck !! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...> wrote: > > HEllo > > I recently posted about a 4x4 approach. I don't know if anyone else > uses this approach, but I like it. > > http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/message/28 011 > NEw 4x4 approach? > > BASICALLY: > 1. 4x3x1 block > 2. 5 centers > 3. pair up 9 edges > 4. finish with a roux solve (35 moves w/o accounting for parities) > > > I have been using this and have done pretty well with it. I always > start with the same 4x3x1 block (white/orange), which makes center > recognition easier (I do Green, Red, Orange, Blue). I pair up 6 edges > and then pair up 3more to make the 3x3. I can do the edges very fast > now. I waste a lot of time on building the block (30s?) and a lot of > time on the centers (20s?) > > RIght now I can only average about 2:10. > Best time is around 90 seconds. Lots of sub 2min solves > > > Jason Kovacic > > QUESTIONS > What is a good goal for a 4x3x1 block on a 4x4? 15 s? > What is the fastest way to do the ORIENTATION PARITY? >
3596. Re: My new 4x4 IDEA
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:07:14 -0000

What a coincidence. I have been working on this idea for the 5x5x5. My plan was to fix all of the corners into big corners and have the edges be 3 connected parts and it acts like a 3x3x3. Maybe this is already online somewhere, I don't read much about the 5x5x5. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...> wrote: > > HEllo Again > > THIS method doesn't require that you do the centers and then pair up > edges. The Idea instead is to do the corners first, and then do > centers and edges simultaneously at the end. > > THE 4x4 is my new favorite cube. It can be a 4x4, a 3x3 or a 2x2. > Usually we transform a scrambled 4x4 into a scrambled 3x3. WHy not > instead transform the scrambled 4x4 into a scrambled 2x2? > > You would have to look at each corner as its own entity, and try to > link 3 edges and 3 centers to each corner. If this can be > successfully done, then you are left with nothing but a 2x2. 20 moves > is a lot better than 55... > Orientation parity can't occur. It doesn't seem like the permutation > parity would come up either. > > If I can take a New 4x4 and scramble it into a 2x2, and then scramble > it into randomness... DOes it stand to reason that I should be able > to do these steps in reverse order? > > Is this a possible method? > Has anyone else tried this? > Can anyone help me with this > > Jason Kovacic >
3597. Re: SPeed DIstributiOn... How do you get to sub 15?
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:34:42 -0000

So if you divide 56 (avg on Fridrich) moves by 13, you get rougly 4. 3moves/sec. That means: Cross 1.6 [.93] CE1 1.7 [.69] CE2 1.7 [.69] CE3 1.7 [.69] CE4 1.7 [.69] OLL 2.1 [1.39] PLL 2.5 [2.09] Total 13.0 [7.17] (Brackets indicate fastest possible, which is a just-for-fun statistic) Which looks pretty good, except there's a problem: between steps. Jean Pons' average of 100: 14.19 Average F2L: 8.08 So, that means something like 6.1 seconds for the last ~20 moves. So basically, your F2L has to be pretty fast, perhaps faster than what I told you to get 13sec solves.
3598. HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:35:57 +0100 (BST)

One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th April 2006. Can you all guess who is it ? Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. Have a nice day Ron uncle. J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3599. Re: My new 4x4 IDEA
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:35:13 -0000

Hi :-) I also had ur idea at some point a few yrs ago. Around the same time i developed my cage-system. There are a few reasons why i think it won't work well: - There will be more parts to "line up" than for any other system. One will have to line up 8 corner-2x2x2-blocks as well as 12 2x2- edges. I can't see how this will be possible without very problematic recognition. I see this approach to be interesting mostly from a theoretical point of view. - I also think there will be a slightly problematic parity issue with such a method. Normal parity fix will either completely ignore centers (as for my cage method) or be based upon preserving the centers. With the proposed method neither is really feasible :-o There might exist slight adjustments to this approach that will _solve_ the above mentioned problems ... :-) Let me know if this approach leads to something interesting :D Kind regards, -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > What a coincidence. I have been working on this idea for the 5x5x5. > My plan was to fix all of the corners into big corners and have the > edges be 3 connected parts and it acts like a 3x3x3. Maybe this is > already online somewhere, I don't read much about the 5x5x5. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "kovacic81" > <kovacic81@> wrote: > > > > HEllo Again > > > > THIS method doesn't require that you do the centers and then pair up > > edges. The Idea instead is to do the corners first, and then do > > centers and edges simultaneously at the end. > > > > THE 4x4 is my new favorite cube. It can be a 4x4, a 3x3 or a 2x2. > > Usually we transform a scrambled 4x4 into a scrambled 3x3. WHy not > > instead transform the scrambled 4x4 into a scrambled 2x2? > > > > You would have to look at each corner as its own entity, and try to > > link 3 edges and 3 centers to each corner. If this can be > > successfully done, then you are left with nothing but a 2x2. 20 moves > > is a lot better than 55... > > Orientation parity can't occur. It doesn't seem like the permutation > > parity would come up either. > > > > If I can take a New 4x4 and scramble it into a 2x2, and then scramble > > it into randomness... DOes it stand to reason that I should be able > > to do these steps in reverse order? > > > > Is this a possible method? > > Has anyone else tried this? > > Can anyone help me with this > > > > Jason Kovacic > > >
3600. Re: [Speed cubing group] HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:34:15 +0530

Hey i didnt know today was Ron's bday. Anyways many happy returns of the day! And talking abt influential, what happened to that poll which was started? What were its results? Sachin. On 4/19/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@yahoo.co.in> wrote: > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th April 2006. > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3601. Rutgers Spring 2006 tournament
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:17:08 -0000

Rutgers will be hosting its Spring 2006 tournament on Saturday, April 29, 2006 at Rutgers University. The tournament will run from 10am - 4:30pm and registration will be from 9am - 10am. Admission is free and there is a rumor that there MAY be free pizza (depends on how much money is left over). The competition will be held at Scott Hall, Room 123 on the College Ave Campus on College Avenue itself (it is between Seminary Place and Hamilton Street). I know where it is, so if you need directions, e-mail me. The events include 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, 3x3 one-handed, 3x3 blindfold, magic, and master magic (though 5x5 will be the first to be dropped if there are time constraints). You may pre-register (this will save you time on competition day) by e-mailing me with your Name, Country of representation (if not USA) and events you are participating in. My e-mail address is bob@.... If you have any questions, e-mail me. ~ Bob
3602. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:30:27 -0300 (ART)

Hi Chris How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: I like to assemble as follows: 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces wet (replace them if they do). 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and loosening each screw the same amount. 8. Sticker and enjoy! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just bought a > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could not > put them together > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little smoother > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I am on > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think that > > these > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good one? > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give it > > a go. > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > around! I > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing another > > go, and > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my girlfriend : > > ( I am > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3603. Re: [Speed cubing group] HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: "Sapan Upadhyay" <cubekid@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:57:57 -0500

lol... man.... that's so awesome that I share the same birthday as Ron. at least it outweighs the other bad things that happen/happened on this day (Hitler's birthday, Columbine Shooting, "Get High" Day, etc.) On 4/19/06, Sachin Shirwalkar <sachinss@...> wrote: > Hey i didnt know today was Ron's bday. Anyways many happy returns of the day! > > And talking abt influential, what happened to that poll which was > started? What were its results? > > Sachin. > > On 4/19/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th April 2006. > > > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid
3604. Re: [Speed cubing group] HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:59:49 +0100 (BST)

Happy Birth Day to you too Mr.Sapan Upadhyay. Have a nice day. J.Bernett Orlando Sapan Upadhyay <cubekid@...> wrote: lol... man.... that's so awesome that I share the same birthday as Ron. at least it outweighs the other bad things that happen/happened on this day (Hitler's birthday, Columbine Shooting, "Get High" Day, etc.) On 4/19/06, Sachin Shirwalkar <sachinss@...> wrote: > Hey i didnt know today was Ron's bday. Anyways many happy returns of the day! > > And talking abt influential, what happened to that poll which was > started? What were its results? > > Sachin. > > On 4/19/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th April 2006. > > > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > -- -cubekid --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3605. Re: ANOTHER SPEEDCUBIST?
From: "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:30:01 -0000

Some good old words... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, jessica_fridrich <no_reply@...> wrote: > > There seems to be way too much emphasis being put on the method or > individual algorithms, whether they can be performed in 1.5 sec. or > 1.9 sec., and other not really essential details. Here is my personal > observation - pick the 10 fastest people, who will all be sub-20 > consistently BTW, and I am quite sure you would find out a surprising > variety in their systems, algorithms, finger shortcuts, cubing > styles, cross on a side or bottom, corners first, by layers, God > knows what else. > > You can study all chess books, replay all games, memorize a huge > amount of information, but still you may not play great chess. > Because after all, it is the person, his ingenuity, talent, and > physical and mental abilities, who plays the chess, not the system. > > Furthermore, I do not mean this to be directed to any particular > person, but in all sports there is certain distribution of > performance among contestants no matter how hard we practice. We all > have our limits in everything, different gifts, degree of > determination and motivation. There will be those who can achieve > with ease and those who have to work hard for their success. That's > life. > > Good luck with the cube to everybody and turn more to yourself for > answers because this is where the real answers are ... > > Sorry for sounding like a mentor, but I just could not stand back > anymore. > > Finally, Eligeon, I encourage you to try the corners-first system. It > is possible that the by-layer system "does not fit" your mind. Josef > Jelinek's (Gloom) site has quite a collection of useful moves for > this system. Keep us posted on your progress. > > Jessica
3606. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 11:17:58 -0000

I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is almost unnecessary. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > I like to assemble as follows: > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > wet (replace them if they do). > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > loosening each screw the same amount. > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just bought a > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could not > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > smoother > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > am on > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > that > > > these > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > one? > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give > it > > > a go. > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > around! I > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > another > > > go, and > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > girlfriend : > > > ( I am > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3607. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:44:04 -0000

Hi :-) One should of course inspect each cubie carefully before assembling the DIY. Molding imperfections and such should be removed with a sharp knife/stanley or something. Also all tuning of tension should be done before attaching the centercaps. Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing > it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down > or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is > almost unnecessary. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris > > > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make > the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into > the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop > when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just > bought a > > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could > not > > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > > smoother > > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > > am on > > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao > <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > > that > > > > these > > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and > give > > it > > > > a go. > > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > > around! I > > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > > another > > > > go, and > > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > > girlfriend : > > > > ( I am > > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e- mail > no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3608. Re: HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: "megafrikkie" <megafrikkie@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:03:47 -0000

Happy Birthday Ron!!!! Have a great day today Erik Akkersdijk --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th April 2006. > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3609. Re: HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:33:28 -0000

Happy birthday Ron! > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a lot, > motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only cuber I > have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th April 2006. > > > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him > with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3610. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help! Megaminx minor calamity...
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:50:33 -0000

How do you get the centers off? Tim > Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > You can disassemble the minx similar to the 3x3. If the minx is too tight, then you can pop a center cap off, and loosen the screws. Hope this helps! > > Frank
3611. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help! Megaminx minor calamity...
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 08:05:04 -0700 (PDT)

My center caps pop off rather easily. A thumbnail or a screwdriver under the cap and a little pressure will pop it right off. Frank Timothy Sun <linkpoke@...> wrote: How do you get the centers off? Tim > Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > You can disassemble the minx similar to the 3x3. If the minx is too tight, then you can pop a center cap off, and loosen the screws. Hope this helps! > > Frank --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1��/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3612. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:14:17 +0000 (GMT)

Oh...I think I made that already...maybe even more...: ) I'll do some more twisting, 'cause I can't really solve them! They're all black!...hahahaha just kidding oh, another thing... you said to stop when you have 0.5mm from the burr, and after lubing, loose each screw the same amount...is that really necessary? isn't it better to adjust the tension at the beggining? Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is almost unnecessary. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > I like to assemble as follows: > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > wet (replace them if they do). > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > loosening each screw the same amount. > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, kyuubree <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just bought a > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could not > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > smoother > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > am on > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > that > > > these > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > one? > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give > it > > > a go. > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > around! I > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > another > > > go, and > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > girlfriend : > > > ( I am > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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3613. New file uploaded to speedsolvingrubikscube
From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: 20 Apr 2006 17:15:37 -0000

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the speedsolvingrubikscube group. File : /france2006_mod.xls Uploaded by : gogozergus <grrroux@...> Description : France 2006 - Results You can access this file at the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube/files/france2006_mod.xls To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files Regards, gogozergus <grrroux@...>
3614. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 14:16:22 -0300 (ART)

Hmm...I didn't really check all the cubies...but yeah, I still didn't attach the centercaps...I'll just do that when the tension is nice Pedro Per Kristen Fredlund <aspiring_to_love@...> escreveu: Hi :-) One should of course inspect each cubie carefully before assembling the DIY. Molding imperfections and such should be removed with a sharp knife/stanley or something. Also all tuning of tension should be done before attaching the centercaps. Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing > it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down > or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is > almost unnecessary. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris > > > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make > the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into > the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop > when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just > bought a > > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could > not > > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > > smoother > > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > > am on > > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao > <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > > that > > > > these > > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and > give > > it > > > > a go. > > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > > around! I > > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > > another > > > > go, and > > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > > girlfriend : > > > > ( I am > > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e- mail > no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3615. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:05:55 -0000

Well I like to start it off tight to wear it in, then loosen it to my preference. It's an art, not a science :) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > oh, another thing... > you said to stop when you have 0.5mm from the burr, and after lubing, loose each screw the same amount...is that really necessary? isn't it better to adjust the tension at the beggining? > > Pedro
3616. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 18:20:20 +0000 (GMT)

Hmm...I see...well, I think that each one has to do what's better for himself thanks for your tutorial I hope this new DIY kits turn at least as good as my white one (with flat centers) Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Well I like to start it off tight to wear it in, then loosen it to my preference. It's an art, not a science :) Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > oh, another thing... > you said to stop when you have 0.5mm from the burr, and after lubing, loose each screw the same amount...is that really necessary? isn't it better to adjust the tension at the beggining? > > Pedro --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger com voz - Instale agora e faça ligações de graça. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3617. Re: [Speed cubing group] HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:43:35 +0200

Yet another Birthday you may classify as a "good" or "bad" thing (as you wish) on April 20th: Carmen Electra! F. Sapan Upadhyay a écrit : > lol... man.... that's so awesome that I share the same birthday as > Ron. at least it outweighs the other bad things that happen/happened > on this day (Hitler's birthday, Columbine Shooting, "Get High" Day, > etc.) > > On 4/19/06, Sachin Shirwalkar <sachinss@...> wrote: > > Hey i didnt know today was Ron's bday. Anyways many happy returns of > the day! > > > > And talking abt influential, what happened to that poll which was > > started? What were its results? > > > > Sachin. > > > > On 4/19/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a > lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only > cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th > April 2006. > > > > > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > > > > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him > with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > > > > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -cubekid > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3618. Re: [Speed cubing group] HAPPY BIRTH DAY
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:48:16 +0200

oops, forgot to add before sending: happy birthday Ron! F. François Sechet a écrit : > Yet another Birthday you may classify as a "good" or "bad" thing (as you > wish) on April 20th: Carmen Electra! > F. > > Sapan Upadhyay a écrit : > > lol... man.... that's so awesome that I share the same birthday as > > Ron. at least it outweighs the other bad things that happen/happened > > on this day (Hitler's birthday, Columbine Shooting, "Get High" Day, > > etc.) > > > > On 4/19/06, Sachin Shirwalkar <sachinss@...> wrote: > > > Hey i didnt know today was Ron's bday. Anyways many happy returns of > > the day! > > > > > > And talking abt influential, what happened to that poll which was > > > started? What were its results? > > > > > > Sachin. > > > > > > On 4/19/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > > > One of the most influential cubers in the world, who travels a > > lot, motivating every other cuber, fun loving person and the only > > cuber I have met so far is celebrating his 39th birth day on 20 th > > April 2006. > > > > > > > > Can you all guess who is it ? > > > > > > > > Let me FIRST wish him "A HAPPY BIRTH DAY". and may GOD bless him > > with all strength, love and power he needs to live happily. > > > > > > > > Have a nice day Ron uncle. > > > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the > time. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -cubekid > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the > web. > > > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3619. FRANCE-2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:06:43 +0100 (BST)

Well done and congrats to all winners. 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut 333 bld = Jean Pons 444 speed solve avg = Clement 555 speed solve avg = Clement Could you Plz share your experience with us ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3620. Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:01:17 -0000

Let them have a well deserved rest and answer the media, it was a busy day you know :-) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Well done and congrats to all winners. > 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut > 333 bld = Jean Pons > 444 speed solve avg = Clement > 555 speed solve avg = Clement > Could you Plz share your experience with us ? > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3621. Olympicubes now gone?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:37:19 -0000

Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked him when they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of months". Is there a new site?
3622. Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 23:43:29 -0000

They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to fill the first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want final testing to be safe... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked him when > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of > months". > > Is there a new site? >
3623. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: Frank Morris <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:55:32 -0700 (PDT)

http://www.olympicube.gr They were having server problems, but all is well. Frank Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to fill the first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want final testing to be safe... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@...> wrote: > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked him when > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of > months". > > Is there a new site? > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1��/min. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3624. Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:53:50 -0000

What Craig said... Also see http://www.olympicube.gr Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to fill the > first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want > final testing to be safe... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@> > wrote: > > > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked him when > > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of > > months". > > > > Is there a new site? > > >
3625. Stickers in Competition
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:03:03 -0000

I was watching some videos and a thought popped into my head that im sure has been talked about before but i was wondering if someone who has worn down stickers could potentially be able to recognize an edge or corner piece by only seeing one side. They may subconciously know that for example, the edge piece with the worn red is the red/yellow cubie. This may help looking ahead during f2l. This does not really affect me because I use Cubesmith stickers which don't really come off, but i know i used to subconciously do this. I was just wondering if anything has been done about this or if its just another part of cubing. Thanks and I hope to see many people at Rutgers in a week
3626. Re: Stickers in Competition
From: "Ben King" <grsbmd@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:44:53 -0000

There's a WCA regulation that says that the color of the sticker is the only thing that is supposed to distinguish different pieces. This is why you can't mix black cubes and white cubes and also why most people have to replace their stickers before entering a competition. -Ben. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > I was watching some videos and a thought popped into my head that im > sure has been talked about before but i was wondering if someone who > has worn down stickers could potentially be able to recognize an edge > or corner piece by only seeing one side. They may subconciously know > that for example, the edge piece with the worn red is the red/yellow > cubie. This may help looking ahead during f2l. This does not really > affect me because I use Cubesmith stickers which don't really come > off, but i know i used to subconciously do this. I was just wondering > if anything has been done about this or if its just another part of > cubing. > > Thanks and I hope to see many people at Rutgers in a week >
3627. Re: Stickers in Competition
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:57:53 -0000

True, but if you use a Rubik's Game or Deluxe cube from the 80's, the tiles stick out so far that you can see the "far side" of pieces if the cube is at the right angle. I guess in the end, it doesn't matter too much since all the fastest guys can mentally "see" and deduce what color must be on the back side of an edge, etc. I'm getting to the point where I can do it near the end of the F2L quite easily. On a similar note, I'm surprised no one has ever complained about the use of flourescent orange stickers (whether 80's, Studio, or Cubesmith). These have a distinctly different feel from the other 5 vinyl colors, and that could theoretically aid in blindfolded solving. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > There's a WCA regulation that says that the color of the sticker is the > only thing that is supposed to distinguish different pieces. > > This is why you can't mix black cubes and white cubes and also why most > people have to replace their stickers before entering a competition. > > -Ben. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > I was watching some videos and a thought popped into my head that im > > sure has been talked about before but i was wondering if someone who > > has worn down stickers could potentially be able to recognize an edge > > or corner piece by only seeing one side. They may subconciously know > > that for example, the edge piece with the worn red is the red/yellow > > cubie. This may help looking ahead during f2l. This does not really > > affect me because I use Cubesmith stickers which don't really come > > off, but i know i used to subconciously do this. I was just wondering > > if anything has been done about this or if its just another part of > > cubing. > > > > Thanks and I hope to see many people at Rutgers in a week > > >
3628. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Stickers in Competition
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 03:05:58 +0000 (GMT)

How can the bright orange help on BLD? Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: True, but if you use a Rubik's Game or Deluxe cube from the 80's, the tiles stick out so far that you can see the "far side" of pieces if the cube is at the right angle. I guess in the end, it doesn't matter too much since all the fastest guys can mentally "see" and deduce what color must be on the back side of an edge, etc. I'm getting to the point where I can do it near the end of the F2L quite easily. On a similar note, I'm surprised no one has ever complained about the use of flourescent orange stickers (whether 80's, Studio, or Cubesmith). These have a distinctly different feel from the other 5 vinyl colors, and that could theoretically aid in blindfolded solving. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" <grsbmd@...> wrote: > > There's a WCA regulation that says that the color of the sticker is the > only thing that is supposed to distinguish different pieces. > > This is why you can't mix black cubes and white cubes and also why most > people have to replace their stickers before entering a competition. > > -Ben. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > I was watching some videos and a thought popped into my head that im > > sure has been talked about before but i was wondering if someone who > > has worn down stickers could potentially be able to recognize an edge > > or corner piece by only seeing one side. They may subconciously know > > that for example, the edge piece with the worn red is the red/yellow > > cubie. This may help looking ahead during f2l. This does not really > > affect me because I use Cubesmith stickers which don't really come > > off, but i know i used to subconciously do this. I was just wondering > > if anything has been done about this or if its just another part of > > cubing. > > > > Thanks and I hope to see many people at Rutgers in a week > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3629. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: FRANCE-2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:17:39 +0100 (BST)

Well done Mr.Gilles Roux for organising a national championship. Hope you too are very tired. Yes I shall wait. I am disappointed to note that Mr.Oliver Goucher and Mr.Fredrick............both could not make it. J.Bernett Orlando Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> wrote: Let them have a well deserved rest and answer the media, it was a busy day you know :-) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Well done and congrats to all winners. > 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut > 333 bld = Jean Pons > 444 speed solve avg = Clement > 555 speed solve avg = Clement > Could you Plz share your experience with us ? > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3630. [Speed cubing group] Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:37:41 -0000

Winning Moves was the organizer of this championship, with the assistance of Seven Towns. I helped a bit, and thanks to those who volunteered for the scrambles! I guess Olivier and Frédérick will give their best at the European Championship in September. By the way, Dave Jones and Thierry Karpiel confirmed we are going here: http://www.citedessciences.fr/english/indexFLASH.htm http://grrroux.free.fr/geode.jpg Official information soon. Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Well done Mr.Gilles Roux for organising a national championship. Hope you too are very tired. Yes I shall wait. > I am disappointed to note that Mr.Oliver Goucher and Mr.Fredrick............both could not make it. > > J.Bernett Orlando > Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> wrote: > > Let them have a well deserved rest and answer the media, it was a busy > day you know :-) > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > Well done and congrats to all winners. > > 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut > > 333 bld = Jean Pons > > 444 speed solve avg = Clement > > 555 speed solve avg = Clement > > Could you Plz share your experience with us ? > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3631. [Speed cubing group] Re: Stickers in Competition
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:39:20 -0000

Because it feels different, so you can tell orange apart with your eyes closed. I mean, that alone could not allow you to solve the cube blindfolded, of course. But in case you ever got accidentally "lost" during a solve, the location of the orange stickers might help you re-orient yourself. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > How can the bright orange help on BLD? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > True, but if you use a Rubik's Game or Deluxe cube from the 80's, > the tiles stick out so far that you can see the "far side" of pieces > if the cube is at the right angle. I guess in the end, it doesn't > matter too much since all the fastest guys can mentally "see" and > deduce what color must be on the back side of an edge, etc. I'm > getting to the point where I can do it near the end of the F2L quite > easily. > > On a similar note, I'm surprised no one has ever complained about > the use of flourescent orange stickers (whether 80's, Studio, or > Cubesmith). These have a distinctly different feel from the other 5 > vinyl colors, and that could theoretically aid in blindfolded > solving. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ben King" > <grsbmd@> wrote: > > > > There's a WCA regulation that says that the color of the sticker > is the > > only thing that is supposed to distinguish different pieces. > > > > This is why you can't mix black cubes and white cubes and also why > most > > people have to replace their stickers before entering a > competition. > > > > -Ben. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > I was watching some videos and a thought popped into my head > that im > > > sure has been talked about before but i was wondering if someone > who > > > has worn down stickers could potentially be able to recognize an > edge > > > or corner piece by only seeing one side. They may subconciously > know > > > that for example, the edge piece with the worn red is the > red/yellow > > > cubie. This may help looking ahead during f2l. This does not > really > > > affect me because I use Cubesmith stickers which don't really > come > > > off, but i know i used to subconciously do this. I was just > wondering > > > if anything has been done about this or if its just another part > of > > > cubing. > > > > > > Thanks and I hope to see many people at Rutgers in a week > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3632. Cubing and caffeine
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:42:51 -0000

How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic...
3633. Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:03:57 -0000

Nobody did sub-15 average... French = bad nerves? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Well done and congrats to all winners. > 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut > 333 bld = Jean Pons > 444 speed solve avg = Clement > 555 speed solve avg = Clement > Could you Plz share your experience with us ? > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3634. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:19:45 -0000

Hahaha, this rocks... I dunno, I've been thinking about this, and I usually have a Half French Vanilla Half Hot Chocolate in the morning before I start cubing, and it seems to give me better times...I think in competition though, red bull would be my solution...but I dunno if I'd need anything to get me excited :p My name is Craig Bouchard, and I'm a cubaholic... I also got a 13.02 non-lucky yesterday, and did over 700 solves between Sunday, Monday and Tuesday...and I am going to Bob's Tournament... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... >
3635. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:30:08 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... > Red Bull. All the way.
3636. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:54:43 -0300 (ART)

Well...the cubes are lubed, and one is stickered (actually tiled)...and...they don't feel like my old white one...but that's normal, right? They shouldn't be really good at the beggining, they need some work...or no? Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is almost unnecessary. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Hi Chris > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > I like to assemble as follows: > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into the > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop when > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > wet (replace them if they do). > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > loosening each screw the same amount. > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just bought a > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could not > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > smoother > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > am on > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > that > > > these > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > one? > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and give > it > > > a go. > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > around! I > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > another > > > go, and > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > girlfriend : > > > ( I am > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3637. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: FRANCE-2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:11:52 +0200

Maybe you are one of the very few, Anssi, not suffering from "French nerves". ----- Original Message ----- From: Anssi Vanhala To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: FRANCE-2006 Nobody did sub-15 average... French = bad nerves? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Well done and congrats to all winners. > 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut > 333 bld = Jean Pons > 444 speed solve avg = Clement > 555 speed solve avg = Clement > Could you Plz share your experience with us ? > J.Bernett Orlando > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3638. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "Jonas Andersson" <j6@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:01:00 -0000

At weekends I prefer drinking "cube". I have to admit it adds abit of "randomness" to your cubing times. Probably because of the alcohol ;) Have a quick look at http://www.carlsberg.se/wbch3.exe?p=1001344 (all info in swedish though) Have a nice cubing weekend. /// Jonas --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... > > > > Red Bull. All the way. >
3639. Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:24:16 -0000

Four people have done it so far. You, and the rest are in Southern California! =), Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > Nobody did sub-15 average... > French = bad nerves? >
3640. First time in a competition
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:16:26 -0000

Next Satudrday I will be in my first competition. I was wondering if anyone has any tips on when to lube my cube and how much practicing i should be doing. I am worried about tiring my hands, but I also do not want to become rusty. Also I don't want my cube to be too tight or loose. If anyone has any tips it would be greatly appreciated. Thankss
3641. Rutgers Spring 2006 website
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:58:02 -0000

I made a website for the Spring 2006 tournament: http://www.cubewhiz.com/rutgers/ Enjoy. ~ Bob
3642. Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "Guillaume M" <becubik@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:52:34 -0000

Hi, Yes, right ;). Guillaume. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > Nobody did sub-15 average... > French = bad nerves? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis > <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > Well done and congrats to all winners. > > 333 speed solve avg = Thibaut > > 333 bld = Jean Pons > > 444 speed solve avg = Clement > > 555 speed solve avg = Clement > > Could you Plz share your experience with us ? > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3643. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 00:36:53 -0000

Well if your old one has flat centers, the new one (with arched centers) will feel different, and may take some getting used to. But it should pop a lot less. "Good" is a subjective term. In my experience, the new DIY kits are good right away (once tuned and lubed). No significant break-in should be required. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Well...the cubes are lubed, and one is stickered (actually tiled)...and...they don't feel like my old white one...but that's normal, right? They shouldn't be really good at the beggining, they need some work...or no? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing > it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down > or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is > almost unnecessary. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris > > > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make > the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into > the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop > when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just > bought a > > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could > not > > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > > smoother > > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > > am on > > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao > <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > > that > > > > these > > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and > give > > it > > > > a go. > > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > > around! I > > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > > another > > > > go, and > > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > > girlfriend : > > > > ( I am > > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! 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3644. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 21:46:31 -0300 (ART)

Well...so I guess is the difference between the arched and flat centers...and between the cubesmith's stickers (on the old one) and tiles (on the new ones) but the other one is a lot more used, so it might be better...Joël told me that his DIY was good after a month or two...or three, I don't remember...: ) but the cubes surely have a lot of potential Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Well if your old one has flat centers, the new one (with arched centers) will feel different, and may take some getting used to. But it should pop a lot less. "Good" is a subjective term. In my experience, the new DIY kits are good right away (once tuned and lubed). No significant break-in should be required. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Well...the cubes are lubed, and one is stickered (actually tiled)...and...they don't feel like my old white one...but that's normal, right? They shouldn't be really good at the beggining, they need some work...or no? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing > it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down > or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is > almost unnecessary. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris > > > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make > the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into > the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop > when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, kyuubree > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just > bought a > > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could > not > > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > > smoother > > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > > am on > > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, Tyson Mao > <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > > that > > > > these > > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and > give > > it > > > > a go. > > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > > around! I > > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > > another > > > > go, and > > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > > girlfriend : > > > > ( I am > > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e- mail > no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3645. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:22:39 -0000

I try to drink as much coffee as I can before a tournament. I think I focus easier and time itself seems to slow down all around me. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... >
3646. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 03:25:01 +0000 (GMT)

Chris, could you tell me your email adress so that we can talk a bit more about the DIY kits? thanks again Pedro Pedro <pedrosino1@yahoo.com.br> escreveu: Well...so I guess is the difference between the arched and flat centers...and between the cubesmith's stickers (on the old one) and tiles (on the new ones) but the other one is a lot more used, so it might be better...Joël told me that his DIY was good after a month or two...or three, I don't remember...: ) but the cubes surely have a lot of potential Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Well if your old one has flat centers, the new one (with arched centers) will feel different, and may take some getting used to. But it should pop a lot less. "Good" is a subjective term. In my experience, the new DIY kits are good right away (once tuned and lubed). No significant break-in should be required. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Well...the cubes are lubed, and one is stickered (actually tiled)...and...they don't feel like my old white one...but that's normal, right? They shouldn't be really good at the beggining, they need some work...or no? > > Pedro > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > I'd say just do maybe the equivalent of 6-12 solves before lubing > it, just to make sure any minor bumps in the plastic get worn down > or shaved off. These M1005B parts are so precise that this step is > almost unnecessary. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro > <pedrosino1@> wrote: > > > > Hi Chris > > > > How long do I need to break the cube in? a week? 2? a month? > > > > Pedro > > > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: > > I like to assemble as follows: > > > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make > the > > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six. > > > > 2. Using a screwdriver, push the screw all the way into one of the > > centers (compressing the spring all the way), then screw it into > the > > burr. Make sure you screw it in as straight as possible. Stop > when > > you get about 0.5 mm from the burr. Do that for all six. > > > > 3. Assemble the edges and corners to complete the cube. > > > > 4. Cut six square pieces of paper the same size as the center (use > > the center caps to trace the outline onto paper before cutting). > > Lay each square so it covers the center. It should rest neatly > > between the surrounding four edge pieces. Mash the cap onto the > > center, deforming the paper as you press it in. The tension will > > keep the cap in place nicely. Do that for all six. > > > > 5. Break the cube in before lubing, to remove any stray plastic > > shavings. Don't worry if it feels too tight. > > > > 6. Turn two adjacent faces a tiny bit, to create an opening near a > > center. Drop a few drops of silicone oil into the opening, then > > scramble the cube thoroughly. Careful not to get the paper pieces > > wet (replace them if they do). > > > > 7. Adjust the tension by temporarily removing the center caps and > > loosening each screw the same amount. > > > > 8. Sticker and enjoy! > > > > Chris > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > How could you figure out how to put them together?I just > bought a > > > white and black diy and using jon morris and ton's site i could > not > > > put them together > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The DIY is good by itself but the lube makes it go a little > > smoother > > > > as well. I don't know what good silicone feels like yet but I > > am on > > > > the lookout for the Prestone brand. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao > <tmao@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to hear about that. > > > > > > > > > > Did you lube the cube to get it to fly nicely? Do you think > > that > > > > these > > > > > DIY cubes are all amazing, or that you got lucky with a good > > one? > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:18 PM, kyuubree wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I arrange my DIY into a nice tidy little package and > give > > it > > > > a go. > > > > > > MAN do these things fly! It's so effortless to move thing > > > > around! I > > > > > > studied a few speedsolving algs, gave the speedcubing > > another > > > > go, and > > > > > > the strain is so much less than it is with my old cube. > > > > > > > > > > > > In other news I just recently had a breakup with my > > girlfriend : > > > > ( I am > > > > > > not very happy right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle > games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@...m > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! 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3647. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:12:55 -0000

i inject excess lube --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...> wrote: > > I try to drink as much coffee as I can before a tournament. I think I > focus easier and time itself seems to slow down all around me. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... > > >
3648. Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 05:30:58 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Anssi Vanhala" <mahtianssi@...> wrote: > > Nobody did sub-15 average... > French = bad nerves? Perhaps... But finishing 1st and 2nd in a world championship requires nerves, don't you think? Jean had a lot of pressure put on him. Journalists, interviews, TV cameras. Everybody was looking at him as the world champion who can beat records. Between the 2 rounds, his average improved a lot. 1.78s. Thibaut improved much more. A third round could have made a sub-15 average possible. I don't know. During the Swedish competition, you had 3 rounds. With about thrice the number of competitors, we only had 2. Gilles.
3649. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "Ryan Patricio" <ryn_patricio@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 05:38:44 -0000

I have a confession to make...I drank 6 red bull the day of the Caltech Spring Competition...I don't deserve 2nd place. I'm not really sub 15. I really suck ; ) Ryan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > > i inject excess lube > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > I try to drink as much coffee as I can before a tournament. I think I > > focus easier and time itself seems to slow down all around me. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > > > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > > > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > > > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > > > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > > > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > > > > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... > > > > > >
3650. Fun Forum
From: "marc7760" <digiretreat@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 08:18:44 -0000

Hi, I'd like to invite you to a great forum board called digiretreat. It's packed with members like you from all across the globe. It's a fairly new venture and we are looking to expand on the site and would love YOU to be part of it. We cover everything from music to TV, soaps to movies, politics to pets. In fact anything you want on the web you will find it at digiretreat. We are gtowing everyday but would love to have you join! Check us out at www.digiretreat.tk Look forward to seeing you soon!
3651. [Speed cubing group] Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:26:11 -0000

Hey :-) With all the agitated interest and demand for the olympicube(s) to become available (!!) it's no wonder that it is "dangerous" to set a day for the release. I'm still confident at least the 6x6x6 will finally be made widely available. Too much work has gone into it to stop it now. And surely, if money is the issue there will be a solution somehow :-) Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote: > > http://www.olympicube.gr > > They were having server problems, but all is well. > > Frank > > Craig Bouchard <logitewty@...> wrote: > They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to fill the > first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want > final testing to be safe... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@> > wrote: > > > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked him when > > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of > > months". > > > > Is there a new site? > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3652. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:17:25 -0000

Is that good for ur health??? It might kill you...how are you still alive??? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...> wrote: > > i inject excess lube > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "skeneegee" > <skeneegee@> wrote: > > > > I try to drink as much coffee as I can before a tournament. I think I > > focus easier and time itself seems to slow down all around me. > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > > > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > > > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > > > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > > > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > > > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > > > > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... > > > > > >
3653. AC Method
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:35:57 -0000

Hey everyone, today I'm competing at the Draughons Spring competition. When we arrived at the hotel, I was surprised that the air conditioning unit used the same method preferred by many top cubers: http://tinyurl.com/pz797 Wish me luck! Chris
3654. Re: AC Method
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:47:24 -0000

Hahaha Chris, only you...good luck man...u better win... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, today I'm competing at the Draughons Spring > competition. When we arrived at the hotel, I was surprised that the > air conditioning unit used the same method preferred by many top > cubers: > > http://tinyurl.com/pz797 > > Wish me luck! > Chris >
3655. rule question
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 13:48:51 +0200

Hey, so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop during the last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger in place of the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not completely before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought it would be no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece was kinda not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, and after not finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give me a 2 seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in the race for victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. But in case this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the edge correctly back in...)? Tyson, Ron? F. ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services pr�f�r�s : v�rifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualit� en temps r�el. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set
3656. Re: FRANCE-2006
From: "zemalinou" <l_f_l_x@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 12:00:34 -0000

I think that there was a big pressure during this championship, and knowing there is 7 persons that can eventually win increase the pressure. I dont want to decrease anssi performance but i think there was less cameras at the swedish open and less sub20 competitors, so I say RDV to the european championships for everybody and we'll see the real pressure:) keep on cubing sebastien
3657. Re: rule question
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:01:40 -0000

There's something in the rules, read 10d). Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, not edge pieces. *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly put back in its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, we decided to accept it with a +2 penalty. Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this moment, it looked a bit cruel. And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet <frsechet@...> wrote: > > Hey, > so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop during the > last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger in place of > the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not completely > before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought it would be > no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece was kinda > not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, and after not > finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give me a 2 > seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in the race for > victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. But in case > this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the edge > correctly back in...)? > Tyson, Ron? > F. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. > Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set >
3658. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: rule question
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:10:51 +0200

HAHAHAHA rofl lol hyark hyark hyark..... ok, je saurai pour la prochaine fois, et puis bon, tu es devant pour le 3x3x3, comme dirait la dame, le premier francilien est à la 4e place... F. Gilles Roux a écrit : > > There's something in the rules, read 10d). > Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, not edge > pieces. > *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** > > But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly put back in > its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, we decided > to accept it with a +2 penalty. > > Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this moment, it > looked a bit cruel. > And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) > > Gilles. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet > <frsechet@...> wrote: > > > > Hey, > > so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop during the > > last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger in > place of > > the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not > completely > > before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought it > would be > > no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece was kinda > > not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, and after not > > finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give me a 2 > > seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in the race for > > victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. But in case > > this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the edge > > correctly back in...)? > > Tyson, Ron? > > F. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver > directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, > lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. > > Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3659. Re: AC Method
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:28:36 -0000

Hehe, same thing at my music school, I notice that every week at my violin lesson ;) sadly it worked too well over the winter, to the point of me becoming overheated and slightly dizzy. Is that a sign that the Fridrich method is too powerful? I doubt it. By the way, how did the 7:40 AM BLD round go? Were there way more DNF's due to the timing? Or did people get over that? Personally I detest solving in any form before 10 AM; however, the only time I succeeded in solving 2 cubes BLD was at about 7:50 AM. BLD'ers at Draughons, what do you think? Wish I coulda gone *grumble* but due to the two upcoming, more convenient contests in the northeast (Rutgers, Trumbull) I had to let this one go. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, today I'm competing at the Draughons Spring > competition. When we arrived at the hotel, I was surprised that the > air conditioning unit used the same method preferred by many top > cubers: > > http://tinyurl.com/pz797 > > Wish me luck! > Chris >
3660. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: FRANCE-2006
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:02:16 -0700

Though, a big part of pressure is really all just in the head, and this fact is undeniable. For myself, I don't really care too much and I'm just having a good time so my competition times generally reflect my top performances unofficially. The lesson is really just to have fun, be happy, and not worry too much. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 22, 2006, at 5:00 AM, zemalinou wrote: > I think that there was a big pressure during this championship, and > knowing there is 7 persons that can eventually win increase the > pressure. I dont want to decrease anssi performance but i think there > was less cameras at the swedish open and less sub20 competitors, so I > say RDV to the european championships for everybody and we'll see the > real pressure:) > > keep on cubing > > sebastien > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3661. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: rule question
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 10:02:53 -0700

It's cruel, but then again, you could have taken less than 2 seconds to put the puzzle back together right? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, François Sechet wrote: > HAHAHAHA rofl lol hyark hyark hyark..... > ok, je saurai pour la prochaine fois, et puis bon, tu es devant pour le > 3x3x3, comme dirait la dame, le premier francilien est à la 4e place... > F. > > Gilles Roux a écrit : >> >> There's something in the rules, read 10d). >> Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, not edge >> pieces. >> *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** >> >> But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly put back in >> its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, we decided >> to accept it with a +2 penalty. >> >> Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this moment, it >> looked a bit cruel. >> And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) >> >> Gilles. >> >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet >> <frsechet@...> wrote: >>> >>> Hey, >>> so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop during the >>> last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger in >> place of >>> the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not >> completely >>> before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought it >> would be >>> no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece was kinda >>> not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, and after >>> not >>> finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give me a 2 >>> seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in the race >>> for >>> victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. But in >>> case >>> this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the edge >>> correctly back in...)? >>> Tyson, Ron? >>> F. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> _____ >> >>> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver >> directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, >> lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. >>> Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the >> web. >> >> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? >> subject=Unsubscribe> >> >> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3662. Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:11:14 -0000

Just add your name to the list... 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, master magic 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.
3663. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: rule question
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:14:10 +0200

yeah, well, I'll know better next time. I did really think it didn't matter that much so I didn't really care about put it back in. F. Tyson Mao a �crit : > It's cruel, but then again, you could have taken less than 2 seconds to > put the puzzle back together right? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Fran�ois Sechet wrote: > > > HAHAHAHA rofl lol hyark hyark hyark..... > > ok, je saurai pour la prochaine fois, et puis bon, tu es devant pour le > > 3x3x3, comme dirait la dame, le premier francilien est � la 4e place... > > F. > > > > Gilles Roux a �crit : > >> > >> There's something in the rules, read 10d). > >> Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, not edge > >> pieces. > >> *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** > >> > >> But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly put back in > >> its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, we decided > >> to accept it with a +2 penalty. > >> > >> Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this moment, it > >> looked a bit cruel. > >> And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) > >> > >> Gilles. > >> > >> > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Fran�ois Sechet > >> <frsechet@...> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey, > >>> so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop during the > >>> last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger in > >> place of > >>> the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not > >> completely > >>> before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought it > >> would be > >>> no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece was kinda > >>> not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, and after > >>> not > >>> finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give me a 2 > >>> seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in the race > >>> for > >>> victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. But in > >>> case > >>> this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the edge > >>> correctly back in...)? > >>> Tyson, Ron? > >>> F. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> ______________________________________________________________________ > >> _____ > >> > >>> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver > >> directement vos services pr�f�r�s : v�rifiez vos nouveaux mails, > >> lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualit� en temps r�el. > >>> Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > >> * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the > >> web. > >> > >> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? > >> subject=Unsubscribe> > >> > >> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > >> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" on the web. > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ___________________________________________________________________________ Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services pr�f�r�s : v�rifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualit� en temps r�el. Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set
3664. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 17:43:59 -0000

only ten people going? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Just add your name to the list... > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > master magic > 2. > 3. > 4. > 5. > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. >
3665. play the da vinci code puzzle
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 18:09:07 -0000

http://flash.sonypictures.com/movies/davincicodequest/ Michiel
3666. [Speed cubing group] Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:28:01 -0000

Oh good, I'm glad to know that it's not gone. I am very interested in getting one also. I wonder how long it would take to solve one of those 11x11's. 15 minutes? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hey :-) > > With all the agitated interest and demand for the olympicube(s) to > become available (!!) it's no wonder that it is "dangerous" to set a > day for the release. I'm still confident at least the 6x6x6 will > finally be made widely available. Too much work has gone into it to > stop it now. And surely, if money is the issue there will be a > solution somehow :-) > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > http://www.olympicube.gr > > > > They were having server problems, but all is well. > > > > Frank > > > > Craig Bouchard <logitewty@> wrote: > > They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to > fill the > > first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want > > final testing to be safe... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > > > > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked > him when > > > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of > > > months". > > > > > > Is there a new site? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3667. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:43:10 -0000

If more than 10 ppl reply, then they can add numbers, not impossible u know... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > only ten people going? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Just add your name to the list... > > > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > > master magic > > 2. > > 3. > > 4. > > 5. > > 6. > > 7. > > 8. > > 9. > > 10. > > >
3668. Re: A nice forum...
From: broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:04:31 -0000

Here is what the forums looks like: http://rubiks.has.it --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > > Hello speedcubing friends, > > This is just a proposal, to see if anyone agrees with me. Most > conversations between speedcubers are probably done online. That's > why a discussion group or forum is very valueable for the > speedcubing community. However, I must say, I don't really enjoy > posting on this yahoo group. It's not very organized, the replies on > one specific topic are hard to find, there are too many ads etc. I > also heard another cuber say he would post more if there was a > better forum. I think I would also have a lot more fun posting on a > speedcubing forum if we just had a good looking, organized forum. > For an example, take a look at this forum: > http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo.php. > > As an example of what I have in mind, I have been fooling around > with this free forum today: http://speedcubing.proboards20.com/. > > DON'T get me wrong! I don't want everybody to agree with me, of > course. If you really like this yahoo group, that's fine with me... > I am just interested in your opinion! Am I the only one used to nice > forums? :) > > I am also not saying that the example I made is perfect, but it's > just an example. > > Happy cubing, > > Joël. >
3669. Re: A nice forum...
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:17:25 -0000

I've been wanting a better forum too. I mean, this is great but it just doesn't feel right. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, broncoviper <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here is what the forums looks like: > http://rubiks.has.it > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello speedcubing friends, > > > > This is just a proposal, to see if anyone agrees with me. Most > > conversations between speedcubers are probably done online. That's > > why a discussion group or forum is very valueable for the > > speedcubing community. However, I must say, I don't really enjoy > > posting on this yahoo group. It's not very organized, the replies on > > one specific topic are hard to find, there are too many ads etc. I > > also heard another cuber say he would post more if there was a > > better forum. I think I would also have a lot more fun posting on a > > speedcubing forum if we just had a good looking, organized forum. > > For an example, take a look at this forum: > > http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo.php. > > > > As an example of what I have in mind, I have been fooling around > > with this free forum today: http://speedcubing.proboards20.com/. > > > > DON'T get me wrong! I don't want everybody to agree with me, of > > course. If you really like this yahoo group, that's fine with me... > > I am just interested in your opinion! Am I the only one used to nice > > forums? :) > > > > I am also not saying that the example I made is perfect, but it's > > just an example. > > > > Happy cubing, > > > > Joël. > > >
3670. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 20:29:34 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > If more than 10 ppl reply, then they can add numbers, not impossible u > know... > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > only ten people going? > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > Just add your name to the list... > > > > > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > > > master magic > > > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. > > > 3. > > > 4. > > > 5. > > > 6. > > > 7. > > > 8. > > > 9. > > > 10. > > > > > >
3671. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:02:15 +0000

I kind of agree, but there's one more thing to consider; people using their e-mail client to read/post to the forum. You know this is also a mailing list, and I'm using my Gmail to read/post. Am I alone? Regards, Aron On 4/22/06, broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Here is what the forums looks like: > http://rubiks.has.it > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > > > > > Hello speedcubing friends, > > > > This is just a proposal, to see if anyone agrees with me. Most > > conversations between speedcubers are probably done online. That's > > why a discussion group or forum is very valueable for the > > speedcubing community. However, I must say, I don't really enjoy > > posting on this yahoo group. It's not very organized, the replies on > > one specific topic are hard to find, there are too many ads etc. I > > also heard another cuber say he would post more if there was a > > better forum. I think I would also have a lot more fun posting on a > > speedcubing forum if we just had a good looking, organized forum. > > For an example, take a look at this forum: > > http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo.php. > > > > As an example of what I have in mind, I have been fooling around > > with this free forum today: http://speedcubing.proboards20.com/. > > > > DON'T get me wrong! I don't want everybody to agree with me, of > > course. If you really like this yahoo group, that's fine with me... > > I am just interested in your opinion! Am I the only one used to nice > > forums? :) > > > > I am also not saying that the example I made is perfect, but it's > > just an example. > > > > Happy cubing, > > > > Joël. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3672. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Chris Sz..." <s2chris2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 21:31:52 -0000

I don't think I'll be making it to this one. I'm going to hold off for the Trumball spring competition which is a bit closer. Hopefully there will be a large turnout. Anyone here planning on going to it? --Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > If more than 10 ppl reply, then they can add numbers, not impossible u > > know... > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > only ten people going? > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Just add your name to the list... > > > > > > > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > > > > master magic > > > > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am > not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. > > > > 3. > > > > 4. > > > > 5. > > > > 6. > > > > 7. > > > > 8. > > > > 9. > > > > 10. > > > > > > > > > >
3673. quick lucky solve question
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 14:49:08 -0700 (PDT)

[I am sorry if this message gets sent twice, my yahoo! mail is screwed up and i dont think it sent the first time] I use 3LLL and just obtained a 31.58 solve with a edge-orientation skip. When using a 3LLL, does a 1/2 OLL skip count as lucky? They occur fairly regularly. thanks David --------------------------------- Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3674. Re: quick lucky solve question
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:37:10 -0000

Unfortunately, yes (oh, how I hate good lucky solves...) Your LL has 3 steps. The solve you're describing had 2. Since the probability of skipping edge orientation is 1/8, skipping it would be lucky (P<0.20). Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > [I am sorry if this message gets sent twice, my yahoo! mail is screwed up and i dont think it sent the first time] > > I use 3LLL and just obtained a 31.58 solve with a edge- orientation skip. > > When using a 3LLL, does a 1/2 OLL skip count as lucky? They occur fairly regularly. > > thanks > > David > > > --------------------------------- > Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3675. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:41:05 -0000

I'm doing both. I live kinda in the middle of Rutgers + Trumbull (half hour closer to Trumbull) so neither is really inconvenient. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Sz..." <s2chris2@...> wrote: > > I don't think I'll be making it to this one. I'm going to hold off for > the Trumball spring competition which is a bit closer. Hopefully there > will be a large turnout. Anyone here planning on going to it? > > --Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > If more than 10 ppl reply, then they can add numbers, not impossible u > > > know... > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > only ten people going? > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just add your name to the list... > > > > > > > > > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > > > > > master magic > > > > > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am > > not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. > > > > > 3. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 > > > > > 4. > > > > > 5. > > > > > 6. > > > > > 7. > > > > > 8. > > > > > 9. > > > > > 10. > > > > > 11. > > > > > 12. > > > > > 13. > > > > > 14. > > > > > 15. > > > > > 16. > > > > > 17. > > > > > 18. > > > > > 19. > > > > > 20. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3676. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:18:14 -0700

You are not alone. I use my gmail account and much prefer the mailing list to a forum. -Chris On 4/22/06, Aron Stansvik <elvstone@...> wrote: > I kind of agree, but there's one more thing to consider; people using > their e-mail client to read/post to the forum. You know this is also a > mailing list, and I'm using my Gmail to read/post. Am I alone? > > Regards, > Aron
3677. [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:32:27 -0000

ditto. I like to read things using my email client, not a browser. Michiel --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...> wrote: > > You are not alone. I use my gmail account and much prefer the mailing > list to a forum. > > -Chris > > On 4/22/06, Aron Stansvik <elvstone@...> wrote: > > I kind of agree, but there's one more thing to consider; people using > > their e-mail client to read/post to the forum. You know this is also a > > mailing list, and I'm using my Gmail to read/post. Am I alone? > > > > Regards, > > Aron >
3678. Re: quick lucky solve question
From: "David Skolnik" <lockjaw17des@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 00:45:19 -0000

I've got my own lucky solve question. If you use the ZB method to insert the final pair in F2L, but after that use regular CFOP, is an OLL skip considered lucky? Afterall, you are way more likely to have an OLL skip with ZB than when using pure Fridrich. It happens often, so it's not vey lucky. -David
3679. Re: quick lucky solve question
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:14:09 -0000

So your last F2L -> LL method is this: (1) Insert CE pair while orienting LL edges (2) Orient LL corners (3) Permute LL Your situation describes skipping step 2. That probability (I believe) is 1/27. I'm afraid that's still lucky. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David Skolnik" <lockjaw17des@...> wrote: > > I've got my own lucky solve question. If you use the ZB method to > insert the final pair in F2L, but after that use regular CFOP, is an > OLL skip considered lucky? Afterall, you are way more likely to have > an OLL skip with ZB than when using pure Fridrich. It happens often, > so it's not vey lucky. > -David >
3680. Re: A nice forum...
From: broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:02:23 -0000

I have had quite a few people say that they prefer reading messages through email, and not having to browse the forums. To those people (it seems like few compared to the overall "cubing population", I think the main reason is because this is how Yahoo is setup and has been for so long), I can come up with at least 2 options: 1) Have you ever tried browsing a forum? I used to like reading everything out of the email too, but a forum is quite nifty. You may want to give it a try. 2) In the forums, you can subscribe to forums/posts that interest you. Of course, the whole point of having a forum in that format is so posts can easily be read right off the forum. But you can do that if nothing else. 3) I am seeing if I can get a script that works just like Yahoo! so that ALL messages can be emailed off the forums. But not sure if that is possible. Thanks, Patrick --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" <blonkm@...> wrote: > > ditto. I like to read things using my email client, not a browser. > > Michiel > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > You are not alone. I use my gmail account and much prefer the mailing > > list to a forum. > > > > -Chris > > > > On 4/22/06, Aron Stansvik <elvstone@> wrote: > > > I kind of agree, but there's one more thing to consider; people > using > > > their e-mail client to read/post to the forum. You know this is > also a > > > mailing list, and I'm using my Gmail to read/post. Am I alone? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Aron > > >
3681. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 19:28:06 -0700

Howdy! I actually spend most of my days on a forum! It happens to be a photography forum that has about 1400+ users active at any given time of the day. There are hundreds of posts made every minute and the forum is a great way to divide those posts and make it a manageable community. The only reason why I prefer this email group to a speedcubing forum is because the speedcubing community is relatively small. We have very few people that post, and those that do, don't post 100 messages a day. I enjoy reading every single post that people make to the group and it's not hard to manage because there is so few posts! If I was to go to a speedcubing forum, then there would be the same relatively low post count, but it would be divided among many different 'subject' forums and I would have to search through every forum on a daily basis and try to find all the new posts that were made. I realize I can subscribe to particular threads and get an email notification when it is modified, however, I would rather subscribe to ALL threads in ALL forums and receive an email notification instantly when ANY posts are made. The yahoo group allows all this. I like forums, I just think it would be much more difficult to read and contribute to all the active conversations. I don't talk that much, but I certainly read everything :) -Chris On 4/22/06, broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I have had quite a few people say that they prefer reading messages > through email, and not having to browse the forums. To those people > (it seems like few compared to the overall "cubing population", I > think the main reason is because this is how Yahoo is setup and has > been for so long), I can come up with at least 2 options: > 1) Have you ever tried browsing a forum? I used to like reading > everything out of the email too, but a forum is quite nifty. You may > want to give it a try. > 2) In the forums, you can subscribe to forums/posts that interest you. > Of course, the whole point of having a forum in that format is so > posts can easily be read right off the forum. But you can do that if > nothing else. > 3) I am seeing if I can get a script that works just like Yahoo! so > that ALL messages can be emailed off the forums. But not sure if that > is possible. > > Thanks, > Patrick > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" > <blonkm@...> wrote: > > > > ditto. I like to read things using my email client, not a browser. > > > > Michiel > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > > > You are not alone. I use my gmail account and much prefer the mailing > > > list to a forum. > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > On 4/22/06, Aron Stansvik <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > I kind of agree, but there's one more thing to consider; people > > using > > > > their e-mail client to read/post to the forum. You know this is > > also a > > > > mailing list, and I'm using my Gmail to read/post. Am I alone? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3682. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Bruce Norskog" <brnorsk@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 04:30:28 -0000

I haven't registered yet, but I believe I will go to this one since it is closer for me than other events have been. I haven't been to any cube competitions yet, or even touched a Stackmat. I certainly am not fast enough to win any events. I will be there mainly for the experience and meeting people. I haven't decided about Trumbull. - Bruce Norskog --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > I'm doing both. I live kinda in the middle of Rutgers + Trumbull > (half hour closer to Trumbull) so neither is really inconvenient. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Sz..." > <s2chris2@> wrote: > > > > I don't think I'll be making it to this one. I'm going to hold off > for > > the Trumball spring competition which is a bit closer. Hopefully > there > > will be a large turnout. Anyone here planning on going to it? > > > > --Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If more than 10 ppl reply, then they can add numbers, not > impossible u > > > > know... > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > only ten people going? > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig > Bouchard" > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just add your name to the list... > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, > magic, > > > > > > master magic > > > > > > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I > am > > > not officially registered though, but I will most likely be > there. > > > > > > 3. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 > > > > > > 4. Bruce Norskog-USA-3x3, maybe 4x4 or 5x5 > > > > > > 5. > > > > > > 6. > > > > > > 7. > > > > > > 8. > > > > > > 9. > > > > > > 10. > > > > > > 11. > > > > > > 12. > > > > > > 13. > > > > > > 14. > > > > > > 15. > > > > > > 16. > > > > > > 17. > > > > > > 18. > > > > > > 19. > > > > > > 20. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3683. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: Anthony Hsu <erwaman@...>
To: Speedsolving Group <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 01:56:41 -0400

Just add your name to the list... 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, master magic 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. 3. Anthony Hsu - USA - everything except the magics 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3684. can somebody help me with this notations for the algorithms of square-1
From: James Benedict Caares <ben41sbr2@...>
To: speedsolving rubikscube <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 02:42:02 -0700 (PDT)

can anybody teach me the notations for the algoritms of the square-1......i really need help.....tnx!!!! --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3685. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:50:35 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hunt To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum... Howdy! The only reason why I prefer this email group to a speedcubing forum is because the speedcubing community is relatively small. We have very few people that post, and those that do, don't post 100 messages a day. I enjoy reading every single post that people make to the group and it's not hard to manage because there is so few posts! I totally agree. R ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3686. GERMAN OPEN-2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:06:05 +0100 (BST)

Kudos to the organisers. Congrats to all winners and well done all participants. Thanks to Ron uncle for updating the results immediately. I remember, my geography miss was telling us in the class, that is when altitude changes, the performance of the athletes vary to a great extent. Is it same with the cubers also? The performance of the same cuber vary widely in America and Europe. What is the altitude of Orlando, Paris and Germany (Sorry, the name of the venue is not sticking in my mind)? How altitude affects performance ? How much does it affect ? Is it due to change in gravitational force ? I am curious. J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3687. Re: GERMAN OPEN-2006
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:28:23 -0000

I think it depends on the person. Personally, I prefer less oxygen when i solve. This keeps me on my feet so that I'm completely focused on the next edge/corner pair. I also like it when my cube is lighter. I feel I have my control over it. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > Kudos to the organisers. Congrats to all winners and well done all participants. Thanks to Ron uncle for updating the results immediately. > > I remember, my geography miss was telling us in the class, that is when altitude changes, the performance of the athletes vary to a great extent. Is it same with the cubers also? The performance of the same cuber vary widely in America and Europe. What is the altitude of Orlando, Paris and Germany (Sorry, the name of the venue is not sticking in my mind)? > > How altitude affects performance ? How much does it affect ? Is it due to change in gravitational force ? I am curious. > > J.Bernett Orlando > > > > --------------------------------- > Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket > Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3688. shadow championship
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 11:29:48 +0100 (BST)

As I could not compete in any championship anywhere, I preferred to run a parallel shadow championship in my house itself. To start with I did one yesterday imagining as if I am competing in German open. In fact, it was a great feeling to move around with great cubers in my imagination shaking hands, discussing with them etc. It was all together different from solving at home. Has anyone tried before like this? If so what is your outcome ? Do you think, will it help in real championship ? J.Bernett Orlando --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3689. Re: can somebody help me with this notations for the algorithms of square-1
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:50:14 -0000

(x,y) means turn the top layer (x * 30) degrees clockwise and the bottom layer (y*30) degrees clockwise, and then make the twist. At least I think it's that. :\
3690. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: "Aron Stansvik" <elvstone@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 10:51:35 +0000

On 4/23/06, broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > I have had quite a few people say that they prefer reading messages > through email, and not having to browse the forums. To those people > (it seems like few compared to the overall "cubing population", I > think the main reason is because this is how Yahoo is setup and has > been for so long), I can come up with at least 2 options: I guess to each his own :) I subscribe to 15+ other mailing lists and I guess I like having everything accessible from one clean, (nearly) ad-free interface. > 1) Have you ever tried browsing a forum? I used to like reading > everything out of the email too, but a forum is quite nifty. You may > want to give it a try. I browse a lot of forums, and the fact that, over the years, they've started show up more and more frequently in my Google searches, is not making my that happy. I can't quite pinpoint it, but I find the majority of forums (probably phpBB installations) clunky, slow and not so user friendly. Maybe it's the content of the forums that I bump into that I don't like :) > 2) In the forums, you can subscribe to forums/posts that interest you. > Of course, the whole point of having a forum in that format is so > posts can easily be read right off the forum. But you can do that if > nothing else. I have to agree with Chris and Rune here. The volume of this list does not warrant a fine grained classification of the messages. If a particularly interesting, high volume thread comes up, as it is now I would just 'star' it in the Gmail interface, which will notify me of any new replies to it. This is specific to the Gmail e-mail client, but think about it; having the messages as e-mail allows people to use whatever interface they prefer, be it a threaded e-mail client, a mailing list archive interface or the yahoo interface, and it allows users to filter the messages any way they want. > 3) I am seeing if I can get a script that works just like Yahoo! so > that ALL messages can be emailed off the forums. But not sure if that > is possible. Maybe there's some nifty forum software out there that already does this, running a forum/mailing list in tandem. Don't reinvent the wheel ;) Regards, Aron > > Thanks, > Patrick > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Michiel van der Blonk" > <blonkm@...> wrote: > > > > ditto. I like to read things using my email client, not a browser. > > > > Michiel > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Hunt" > > <huntca@> wrote: > > > > > > You are not alone. I use my gmail account and much prefer the mailing > > > list to a forum. > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > On 4/22/06, Aron Stansvik <elvstone@> wrote: > > > > I kind of agree, but there's one more thing to consider; people > > using > > > > their e-mail client to read/post to the forum. You know this is > > also a > > > > mailing list, and I'm using my Gmail to read/post. Am I alone? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Aron > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3691. Re: GERMAN OPEN-2006
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:12:15 -0000

Orlando is basically right at sea level (like most of Florida). I think the outdoor stage facing east into the morning sun played a bigger factor at WC05. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: the same cuber vary widely in America and Europe. What is the altitude of Orlando, Paris and Germany (Sorry, the name of the
3692. help!!! will somebody teach me the square - 1 algorithms notations
From: "ben41sbr2" <ben41sbr2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:31:34 -0000

help!!! will somebody teach me the square - 1 algorithms notations, i would really appreciate it...........tanx!!!
3693. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:35:19 -0000

Just add your name to the list... 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, master magic 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. 3. Anthony Hsu - USA - everything except the magics 4. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 5. Bruce Norskog-USA-3x3, maybe 4x4 or 5x5 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. Just to make it nice and clean :)
3694. Re: [Speed cubing group] help!!! will somebody teach me the square - 1 algorithms notations
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:18:50 +0100 (BST)

You can get both types of notations- descriptive notation and Japp scherphuis notation in the following link. http://www.geocities.com/abcmcfarren/math/sq1/sq1xf.htm J.Bernett Orlando ben41sbr2 <ben41sbr2@...> wrote: help!!! will somebody teach me the square - 1 algorithms notations, i would really appreciate it...........tanx!!! --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3695. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:50:59 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: Stefan Pochmann To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:45 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 Looking forward to that. Cheers! Stefan I´m looking at your results in 333: 18.84,18.65,18.31,19.16,19.34 It must be the less standard deviation in an official contest? R SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3696. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 14:47:48 -0000

:) > Just add your name to the list... > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > master magic > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am > not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. > 3. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 > 4. Bruce Norskog-USA-3x3, maybe 4x4 or 5x5 > 5. Bob Burton - USA - Magic, master magic :P > 6. > 7. > 8. > 9. > 10. > 11. > 12. > 13. > 14. > 15. > 16. > 17. > 18. > 19. > 20.
3697. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "gillesvdp" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 15:07:20 -0000

Hello everyone, I just came back this morning from the German Open and I must say I had a really good time there ! Thank you everyne for this wonderful moment :-) I posted a few pictures on my website if you want : http://www.belgiancubes.be/pictures/GermanOpen2006/index.htm Congratulations to all the competitors and see you soon ! Gilles.
3698. Re: rule question
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:25:27 -0000

Hi :-) I never liked silly or overly strict rules. A single missing cubie and the cube is still unambiguously solved :-) So why at all a +2 sec penalty? Or even a DNF?? To me it doesn't make sense. If some wanna believe that all puzzle defects are caused by the puzzler, then so be it ... Well, this topic has been discussed far too many times already. R.I.P. -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet <frsechet@...> wrote: > > yeah, well, I'll know better next time. I did really think it didn't > matter that much so I didn't really care about put it back in. > F. > > Tyson Mao a écrit : > > It's cruel, but then again, you could have taken less than 2 seconds to > > put the puzzle back together right? > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, François Sechet wrote: > > > > > HAHAHAHA rofl lol hyark hyark hyark..... > > > ok, je saurai pour la prochaine fois, et puis bon, tu es devant pour le > > > 3x3x3, comme dirait la dame, le premier francilien est à la 4e place... > > > F. > > > > > > Gilles Roux a écrit : > > >> > > >> There's something in the rules, read 10d). > > >> Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, not edge > > >> pieces. > > >> *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** > > >> > > >> But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly put back in > > >> its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, we decided > > >> to accept it with a +2 penalty. > > >> > > >> Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this moment, it > > >> looked a bit cruel. > > >> And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) > > >> > > >> Gilles. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet > > >> <frsechet@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hey, > > >>> so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop during the > > >>> last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger in > > >> place of > > >>> the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not > > >> completely > > >>> before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought it > > >> would be > > >>> no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece was kinda > > >>> not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, and after > > >>> not > > >>> finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give me a 2 > > >>> seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in the race > > >>> for > > >>> victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. But in > > >>> case > > >>> this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the edge > > >>> correctly back in...)? > > >>> Tyson, Ron? > > >>> F. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> _____________________________________________________________________ _ > > >> _____ > > >> > > >>> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver > > >> directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, > > >> lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. > > >>> Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- -------- > > >> -- > > >> YAHOO! 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3699. taking off megaminx tiles
From: "tehguardians" <tehguardians@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 17:26:30 -0000

does anyone have any tips for removing megaminx tiles? ive tried using a chisel and that didnt work too well. any suggestions???
3700. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:41:20 -0000

Hi Gilles, Thanks for the pictures.. They are very nice... I barely took any pictures of the events on saturday, because I was so busy competing or preparing for events. It was great to meet everybody.. I saw a lot of new faces in this competition. The sport is definately growing :). It was also great winning the 3x3 competition. It's great to beat some of the fastest cubers in competition. During the races we had before the competition, I was very close to Lars, Ron (allthough I only raced him on friday, he was very fast!), Michel, Gunnar and Dan... So the competition was pretty exciting. I had a nice time, and I have some new ideas to work on my 3x3 speedsolving... I also took some pictures, and I will publish the good ones on my site soon... But right now I am really tired :). Cheers ears!! (whatever that means) Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "gillesvdp" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I just came back this morning from the German Open and I must say I > had a really good time there ! > > Thank you everyne for this wonderful moment :-) > > I posted a few pictures on my website if you want : > http://www.belgiancubes.be/pictures/GermanOpen2006/index.htm > > Congratulations to all the competitors and see you soon ! > > Gilles. >
3701. Cubers in Portugal
From: "Ron" <ron@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 19:54:27 -0000

Hi guys, Any cubers from Portugal around here? I will be in Lisboa/Estoril in the week of June 6, maybe we could meet? Have fun, Ron
3702. 2x2 cube method
From: "cubewizzard" <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:10:30 -0000

Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone else can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. Tobias
3703. Pictures of the German cube day
From: "cubewizzard" <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:16:01 -0000

I also have a lot of pictures of the German cube day 2006. Sadly, I don't have a weblog so if you want to see them, send a mail and i'll mail you them.
3704. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:43:03 -0000

I will be at Trumbull. ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > I'm doing both. I live kinda in the middle of Rutgers + Trumbull > (half hour closer to Trumbull) so neither is really inconvenient. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Sz..." > <s2chris2@> wrote: > > > > I don't think I'll be making it to this one. I'm going to hold off > for > > the Trumball spring competition which is a bit closer. Hopefully > there > > will be a large turnout. Anyone here planning on going to it? > > > > --Chris > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If more than 10 ppl reply, then they can add numbers, not > impossible u > > > > know... > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > only ten people going? > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig > Bouchard" > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Just add your name to the list... > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, > magic, > > > > > > master magic > > > > > > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I > am > > > not officially registered though, but I will most likely be > there. > > > > > > 3. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 > > > > > > 4. > > > > > > 5. > > > > > > 6. > > > > > > 7. > > > > > > 8. > > > > > > 9. > > > > > > 10. > > > > > > 11. > > > > > > 12. > > > > > > 13. > > > > > > 14. > > > > > > 15. > > > > > > 16. > > > > > > 17. > > > > > > 18. > > > > > > 19. > > > > > > 20. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3705. Re: Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Chris Sz..." <s2chris2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:59:49 -0000

I'd hope so - you are the WCA delegate :) --Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@...> wrote: > > I will be at Trumbull. > > ~ Bob > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > I'm doing both. I live kinda in the middle of Rutgers + Trumbull > > (half hour closer to Trumbull) so neither is really inconvenient. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Sz..." > > <s2chris2@> wrote: > > > > > > I don't think I'll be making it to this one. I'm going to hold off > > for > > > the Trumball spring competition which is a bit closer. Hopefully > > there > > > will be a large turnout. Anyone here planning on going to it? > > > > > > --Chris > > >
3706. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:28:02 +0100 (BST)

Well done Joel. Keep it up. Looking forward to your report with pictures in your site. Last week you were my hot favorite and now you are the winner. Gilles, your pictures are not opening up in my computer. Could you help me ? J.bernett Orlando Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: Hi Gilles, Thanks for the pictures.. They are very nice... I barely took any pictures of the events on saturday, because I was so busy competing or preparing for events. It was great to meet everybody.. I saw a lot of new faces in this competition. The sport is definately growing :). It was also great winning the 3x3 competition. It's great to beat some of the fastest cubers in competition. During the races we had before the competition, I was very close to Lars, Ron (allthough I only raced him on friday, he was very fast!), Michel, Gunnar and Dan... So the competition was pretty exciting. I had a nice time, and I have some new ideas to work on my 3x3 speedsolving... I also took some pictures, and I will publish the good ones on my site soon... But right now I am really tired :). Cheers ears!! (whatever that means) Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "gillesvdp" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I just came back this morning from the German Open and I must say I > had a really good time there ! > > Thank you everyne for this wonderful moment :-) > > I posted a few pictures on my website if you want : > http://www.belgiancubes.be/pictures/GermanOpen2006/index.htm > > Congratulations to all the competitors and see you soon ! > > Gilles. > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Jiyo cricket on Yahoo! India cricket Yahoo! Messenger Mobile Stay in touch with your buddies all the time. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3707. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:28:10 -0000

my little sister will be there too to school you (and me) in the magics. :P --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Just add your name to the list... > > 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, > master magic > 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am not > officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. > 3. Anthony Hsu - USA - everything except the magics > 4. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 > 5. Bruce Norskog-USA-3x3, maybe 4x4 or 5x5 > 6. Bob Burton - USA - magic, master magic > 7. Lacey Burton - USA - magic, master magic > 8. > 9. > 10. > > Just to make it nice and clean :) >
3708. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cubing and caffeine
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:00:43 -0700

I always get caffeine in some form, lately usually Diet Red Bull. I have no evidence that it helps me, but I think it does, and it feels good to have "done something" to help. Some scientifically minded cuber with time on their hands could easily test this. Just measure averages before and after a cup of coffee, which is randomly caffeinated and decaffed. Try not to know which is which. Repeat 20 times or so and look at the numbers. Oh, and don't do all 20 experiments the same day... I suspect the more potent helper drug would be Ritalin. Since it's prescribed to a huge percent of teenage boys, I'm sure it's already in use in competition. /Lars On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:42, christopher_pelley wrote: > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic...
3709. CAL Day
From: Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 23:05:46 -0700 (PDT)

I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go there next year! I'm very excited about the school. My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some questions. I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are out there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let me know! Thanks a bunch! Jeremy Fleischman PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is the Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the last corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge piece out, but how do I get that last one in? Thanks again! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3710. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:43:57 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: JohnLouis Louis To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:28 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 Well done Joel. Keep it up. Looking forward to your report with pictures in your site. Last week you were my hot favorite and now you are the winner. Gilles, your pictures are not opening up in my computer. Could you help me ? J.bernett Orlando In my too. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3711. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "goodxy2002" <goodxy2002@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:53:59 -0000

Hey lars, where were you for the competition? We missed ya --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > I always get caffeine in some form, lately usually Diet Red Bull. I > have no evidence that it helps me, but I think it does, and it feels > good to have "done something" to help. > > Some scientifically minded cuber with time on their hands could > easily test this. Just measure averages before and after a cup of > coffee, which is randomly caffeinated and decaffed. Try not to know > which is which. Repeat 20 times or so and look at the numbers. > > Oh, and don't do all 20 experiments the same day... > > I suspect the more potent helper drug would be Ritalin. Since it's > prescribed to a huge percent of teenage boys, I'm sure it's already > in use in competition. > > /Lars > > On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:42, christopher_pelley wrote: > > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... >
3712. Name That Cuber
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 00:58:30 -0700

http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_11478.jpg Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology
3713. Re: rule question
From: aznseashell <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:24:09 -0000

Well, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Maybe you finish a solve with a missing edge piece and a missing corner piece. Since an edge can only go in the edge hole and the corner in the corner hole, would the cube still be unambiguously solved? Though they may seem overly strict, the intent of the rules is to avoid gray areas like this. Shelley --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hi :-) > > I never liked silly or overly strict rules. A single missing cubie > and the cube is still unambiguously solved :-) So why at all a +2 > sec penalty? Or even a DNF?? To me it doesn't make sense. If some > wanna believe that all puzzle defects are caused by the puzzler, > then so be it ... Well, this topic has been discussed far too many > times already. R.I.P. > > -Per > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet > <frsechet@> wrote: > > > > yeah, well, I'll know better next time. I did really think it > didn't > > matter that much so I didn't really care about put it back in. > > F. > > > > Tyson Mao a écrit : > > > It's cruel, but then again, you could have taken less than 2 > seconds to > > > put the puzzle back together right? > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > > On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, François Sechet wrote: > > > > > > > HAHAHAHA rofl lol hyark hyark hyark..... > > > > ok, je saurai pour la prochaine fois, et puis bon, tu es > devant pour le > > > > 3x3x3, comme dirait la dame, le premier francilien est à la 4e > place... > > > > F. > > > > > > > > Gilles Roux a écrit : > > > >> > > > >> There's something in the rules, read 10d). > > > >> Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, > not edge > > > >> pieces. > > > >> *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** > > > >> > > > >> But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly > put back in > > > >> its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, > we decided > > > >> to accept it with a +2 penalty. > > > >> > > > >> Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this > moment, it > > > >> looked a bit cruel. > > > >> And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) > > > >> > > > >> Gilles. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet > > > >> <frsechet@> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Hey, > > > >>> so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop > during the > > > >>> last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger > in > > > >> place of > > > >>> the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not > > > >> completely > > > >>> before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought > it > > > >> would be > > > >>> no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece > was kinda > > > >>> not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, > and after > > > >>> not > > > >>> finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give > me a 2 > > > >>> seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in > the race > > > >>> for > > > >>> victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. > But in > > > >>> case > > > >>> this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the > edge > > > >>> correctly back in...)? > > > >>> Tyson, Ron? > > > >>> F. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > _____________________________________________________________________ > _ > > > >> _____ > > > >> > > > >>> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour > retrouver > > > >> directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux > mails, > > > >> lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. > > > >>> Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > >> -- > > > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > >> > > > >> * Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube > > > >> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the > > > >> web. > > > >> > > > >> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > >> > > > >> <mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? > > > >> subject=Unsubscribe> > > > >> > > > >> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of > > > >> Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > > >> -- > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > YAHOO! 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3714. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: rule question
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:50:24 -0700

I also don't see what's so difficult about making sure the cube is solved. It's like you go along running the 1500, and you're completely dominating everyone, and then with 10 meters to go, you trip and fall. Even if someone else trips you, it's not "it wasn't my fault, so I should have fun" deal. http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_athletics/ EL_GUERROUJ_H_19980719_GH_L.jpg That man, Hicham el Guerrouj, lost the 1996 Olympic gold medal as a result of something like that. http://www.scottchernis.com/images/olym/1.jpg What about Steven Bradburry? Didn't he win the 1000 meters short track speed skating in 2002? Why? Didn't some Chinese skater fall, and trip over a Korean, who then knocked down Apolo Anton Ohno? And this was with maybe 30 meters to go. Apolo Anton Ohno then scrambles, and finishes second. These athletes don't ask for pity when something happens to them. They wouldn't ask for pity especially if their equipment failed. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 24, 2006, at 2:24 AM, aznseashell wrote: > Well, the line has to be drawn somewhere. Maybe you finish a solve > with a missing edge piece and a missing corner piece. Since an edge > can only go in the edge hole and the corner in the corner hole, would > the cube still be unambiguously solved? Though they may seem overly > strict, the intent of the rules is to avoid gray areas like this. > > Shelley > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" > <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: >> >> Hi :-) >> >> I never liked silly or overly strict rules. A single missing cubie >> and the cube is still unambiguously solved :-) So why at all a +2 >> sec penalty? Or even a DNF?? To me it doesn't make sense. If some >> wanna believe that all puzzle defects are caused by the puzzler, >> then so be it ... Well, this topic has been discussed far too many >> times already. R.I.P. >> >> -Per >> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet >> <frsechet@> wrote: >>> >>> yeah, well, I'll know better next time. I did really think it >> didn't >>> matter that much so I didn't really care about put it back in. >>> F. >>> >>> Tyson Mao a écrit : >>>> It's cruel, but then again, you could have taken less than 2 >> seconds to >>>> put the puzzle back together right? >>>> >>>> Tyson Mao >>>> Astrophysics '06 >>>> California Institute of Technology >>>> >>>> On Apr 22, 2006, at 8:10 AM, François Sechet wrote: >>>> >>>>> HAHAHAHA rofl lol hyark hyark hyark..... >>>>> ok, je saurai pour la prochaine fois, et puis bon, tu es >> devant pour le >>>>> 3x3x3, comme dirait la dame, le premier francilien est à la 4e >> place... >>>>> F. >>>>> >>>>> Gilles Roux a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>> There's something in the rules, read 10d). >>>>>> Rule 5b5) applies to non functional parts of the puzzle only, >> not edge >>>>>> pieces. >>>>>> *** The defect should have been fully fixed *** >>>>>> >>>>>> But since it was a slight defect (edge piece not perfectly >> put back in >>>>>> its slot), and otherwise the cube was unambiguously solved, >> we decided >>>>>> to accept it with a +2 penalty. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I regret, it should have been declared DNF, but at this >> moment, it >>>>>> looked a bit cruel. >>>>>> And with a DNF, I would have taken your place ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Gilles. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet >>>>>> <frsechet@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>> so at the French champs, I finished a 4x4 solve with a pop >> during the >>>>>>> last couple of moves but decided to keep going with a finger >> in >>>>>> place of >>>>>>> the missing edge piece that I kinda put back in place but not >>>>>> completely >>>>>>> before stopping the timer, then stopped the timer. I thought >> it >>>>>> would be >>>>>>> no problem since I *did* solve the cube, only an edge piece >> was kinda >>>>>>> not completely "inside" the cube. I talked to the judges, >> and after >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> finding anything in the rules about it, we decided to give >> me a 2 >>>>>>> seconds penalty. I didn't really care, because I wasn't in >> the race >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> victory, so I accepted the penalty and everyone was happy. >> But in >>>>>>> case >>>>>>> this happens again, what shall we do (yeah I know, put the >> edge >>>>>>> correctly back in...)? >>>>>>> Tyson, Ron? >>>>>>> F. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _ >>>>>> _____ >>>>>> >>>>>>> Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour >> retrouver >>>>>> directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux >> mails, >>>>>> lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. >>>>>>> Rendez-vous sur http://fr.yahoo.com/set >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> -------- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> YAHOO! 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3715. Re: Name That Cuber
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:12:14 -0000

Uh, what was the answer to the last one? :P --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_11478. jpg > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology >
3716. Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:14:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone else > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > Tobias > First Layer OLL PLL Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P Tim
3717. [Speed cubing group] Re: rule question
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:53:55 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > [...] > > It's like you go along running the 1500, and you're completely > dominating everyone, and then with 10 meters to go, you trip and fall. > Even if someone else trips you, it's not "it wasn't my fault, so I > should have fun" deal. > > [...] :-) Sometimes, crossing the line requires efforts: http://www.prostfan.com/photos/wri/270786.jpg (A.Prost out of fuel, Hockenheim, 1986) Gilles.
3718. Re: Name That Cuber
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:18:56 -0000

Clearly its Bob Burton, cuz it says Rutgers on it, and just cuz u can't see those menacing eyes, its still him... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Uh, what was the answer to the last one? :P > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_11478. > jpg > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > >
3719. Help with a 2-generator sequence
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:27:49 -0000

Here's a sequence that twists all 4 corners of the U face: (R U') R U R U (R' U')(R' U')(R2 U' R U R' U' R U' R') It is a little long, but I like the fact that it contains only one half- turn, and the last 9 turns run together smoothly. But R U R U is awkward. I do the U turns with right index finger, but this leaves my hand badly placed for the following R or R' turns. Any hints for R U R U? Mike
3720. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help with a 2-generator sequence
From: "Johannes Laire" <johannes.laire@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:53:35 +0300

I would group the moves differently. (R U' R U) (R U R') U' (R' U' R2) U' (R U R') U' (R U' R') First four moves are maybe hard to do fast at first, but it's easy after some practice. (R' U' R2) here I would do the U' with right thumb, but left index finger is ok too. I like this alg... I'll use it for bld-solving in the future. - Johannes Laire On 4/24/06, mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Here's a sequence that twists all 4 corners of the U face: > > (R U') R U R U (R' U')(R' U')(R2 U' R U R' U' R U' R') > > It is a little long, but I like the fact that it contains only one half- > turn, and the last 9 turns run together smoothly. > > But R U R U is awkward. I do the U turns with right index finger, but > this leaves my hand badly placed for the following R or R' turns. > > Any hints for R U R U? > > Mike > > > > > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3721. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "David Barr" <david20708@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:23:47 -0400

Just add your name to the list... 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, master magic 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. 3. Anthony Hsu - USA - everything except the magics 4. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 5. Bruce Norskog-USA-3x3, maybe 4x4 or 5x5 6. Bob Burton - USA - magic, master magic 7. Lacey Burton - USA - magic, master magic 8. David Barr - USA - 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, Magic, Master Magic. 9. 10.
3722. French Championship videos - codec?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:29:30 -0000

Has anyone been able to play the videos posted on speedcubing.com of the French Championship? My PC doesn't recognize the codec. When I view the clip properties, it says this: Width: 320 pixels Height: 240 pixels Duration: 2:10 Audio format: Windows Media Audio V2 Video frame rate: 1000 frames/second Video Data rate: 53kbps Obviously the 1000 frames/second can't be right! I have the Divx codec, Flash codec, etc. What do I need for these? Chris
3723. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: A nice forum...
From: "David Barr" <david20708@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 09:42:08 -0400

On 4/22/06, broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > 1) Have you ever tried browsing a forum? I used to like reading > everything out of the email too, but a forum is quite nifty. You may > want to give it a try. Yes, I have tried forums. I prefer mailing lists to forums, mostly because forums don't keep track of which individual messages I have read. With mailing lists, I usually scan through the list subject lines every day or so and read posts that I think are the most interesting. I don't usually have time to read every message every day, especially if I miss a few days. Later on, I can go back and read the messages that missed. With a forum, this style of reading wouldn't be possible. As soon as I log off without reading all the messages, I'd lose the indicators of what messages I haven't read yet. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3724. Re: [Speed cubing group] Help with a 2-generator sequence
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:54:58 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Johannes Laire" <johannes.laire@...> wrote: > I would group the moves differently. > > (R U' R U) (R U R') U' (R' U' R2) U' (R U R') U' (R U' R') Thanks! -- it is a definite improvement for the part I was finding difficult. Mike
3725. RE: [Speed cubing group] French Championship videos - codec?
From: François Sechet <frsechet@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 16:12:20 +0200 (CEST)

Hey Chris, I'm hosting the videos, and when I told Ron about it, he then got back to me with the same kind of comments. I have absolutely no idea. It works fine on my computer. I actually got it in .wmv format, but windows media player kept telling me something about the ending not being right, ut it would still be able to read it. I then sent the files to Gilles who got the same issue, renamed it .avi, and it was fine. I did the same thing, works fine here and on a few other computers around, but some people keep having this problem. I don't know what to do, if anyone knows, let me know and I'll reupload a readable file. Ron told me, it works fine with nero, and Iwould suggest trying with vlc, just in case, but I don't know if that works too. Sorry about it! François christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Has anyone been able to play the videos posted on speedcubing.com of the French Championship? My PC doesn't recognize the codec. When I view the clip properties, it says this: Width: 320 pixels Height: 240 pixels Duration: 2:10 Audio format: Windows Media Audio V2 Video frame rate: 1000 frames/second Video Data rate: 53kbps Obviously the 1000 frames/second can't be right! I have the Divx codec, Flash codec, etc. What do I need for these? Chris --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@...m Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3726. Re: Name That Cuber
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:10:59 -0000

What menacing eyes? I am such a happy fellow! http://www.cubewhiz.com/images/football.jpg :P ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Clearly its Bob Burton, cuz it says Rutgers on it, and just cuz u > can't see those menacing eyes, its still him... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" > <linkpoke@> wrote: > > > > Uh, what was the answer to the last one? :P > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > > wrote: > > > > > > http://photos-705.facebook.com/images/profile/231/53/n8803705_11478. > > jpg > > > > > > Tyson Mao > > > Astrophysics '06 > > > California Institute of Technology > > > > > >
3727. Re: French Championship videos - codec?
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:53:18 -0000

Thanks, the VLC player is able to play it fine. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, François Sechet <frsechet@...> wrote: > > Hey Chris, > I'm hosting the videos, and when I told Ron about it, he then got back to me with the same kind of comments. I have absolutely no idea. It works fine on my computer. I actually got it in .wmv format, but windows media player kept telling me something about the ending not being right, ut it would still be able to read it. I then sent the files to Gilles who got the same issue, renamed it .avi, and it was fine. I did the same thing, works fine here and on a few other computers around, but some people keep having this problem. I don't know what to do, if anyone knows, let me know and I'll reupload a readable file. > Ron told me, it works fine with nero, and Iwould suggest trying with vlc, just in case, but I don't know if that works too. > Sorry about it! > François > > christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> a écrit : Has anyone been able to play the videos posted on speedcubing.com of > the French Championship? My PC doesn't recognize the codec. When I > view the clip properties, it says this: > > Width: 320 pixels > Height: 240 pixels > Duration: 2:10 > Audio format: Windows Media Audio V2 > Video frame rate: 1000 frames/second > Video Data rate: 53kbps > > Obviously the 1000 frames/second can't be right! I have the Divx > codec, Flash codec, etc. What do I need for these? > > Chris > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3728. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:29:32 -0000

Just add your name to the list... 1. Craig Bouchard - Canada - 3x3,4x4,5x5,3x3 OH, 3x3 BLD, magic, master magic 2. Andrew Spelman-USA- definitely 3x3, maybe bld and 4x4 I am not officially registered though, but I will most likely be there. 3. Anthony Hsu - USA - everything except the magics 4. Tim Reynolds-USA-3x3, 3x3OH, 3x3BLD, 4x4 5. Bruce Norskog-USA-3x3, maybe 4x4 or 5x5 6. Bob Burton - USA - magic, master magic 7. Lacey Burton - USA - magic, master magic 8. David Barr - USA - 3x3, 4x4, 5x5, Magic, Master Magic. 9. Chris Parlette - USA - 3x3, 4x4, 5x5 10.
3729. Re: Cubing and caffeine
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:30:45 -0000

Hi :-) I get my doses of tea every day. Sometimes as much as 5 or 6 cups. >From what im told black tea has more coffeine than coffee. Im not sure about that though. At least i use only sweetener normally, and lemon juice. No sugar. I try to use many kinds of tea for the variation. I don't like coffee :D Far too bitter for me. Love its smell though. I know many feel the same way ... Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > I always get caffeine in some form, lately usually Diet Red Bull. I > have no evidence that it helps me, but I think it does, and it feels > good to have "done something" to help. > > Some scientifically minded cuber with time on their hands could > easily test this. Just measure averages before and after a cup of > coffee, which is randomly caffeinated and decaffed. Try not to know > which is which. Repeat 20 times or so and look at the numbers. > > Oh, and don't do all 20 experiments the same day... > > I suspect the more potent helper drug would be Ritalin. Since it's > prescribed to a huge percent of teenage boys, I'm sure it's already > in use in competition. > > /Lars > > On Apr 21, 2006, at 1:42, christopher_pelley wrote: > > > How many cubers here have correlated coffee as a key to quicker > > cubing? I personally search out the local Starbucks near any > > competition venue. If caffeine's not your thing, what > > other "performance-enhancing drugs" do you use? Can of Red Bull? > > Couple puffs of a cigarette (or other smokable)? Good stiff drink to > > relax the nerves? Come on people, let's get the truth on the table! > > > > My name is Christopher Pelley, and I am a cubaholic... >
3730. Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:37:58 +0200

I'll try to find a solution, but for the time being you can access the pictures from here : http://tinyurl.com/n8t8e Have fun ! Gilles. :-) 2006/4/24, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JohnLouis Louis > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 4:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] German open - 2006 > > > Well done Joel. Keep it up. Looking forward to your report with pictures in your site. > Last week you were my hot favorite and now you are the winner. > Gilles, your pictures are not opening up in my computer. Could you help me ? > > J.bernett Orlando > > > In my too. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3731. Competition formats
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 20:36:27 -0000

Hi everybody!! I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and noiced that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about competition format?? My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel free tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon have those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a competition if you ask me. So, what's your opinions about this?? /Gunnar
3732. Re: [Speed cubing group] Competition formats
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:05:10 -0300 (ART)

I guess they did that 'cause there were a small number of participants...but, yeah, looks strange to me too... Pedro Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@student.liu.se> escreveu: Hi everybody!! I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and noiced that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about competition format?? My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel free tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon have those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a competition if you ask me. So, what's your opinions about this?? /Gunnar SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! doce lar. Faça do Yahoo! sua homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3733. Re: Competition formats
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:07:01 -0000

Well the same thing happened at the Chattahoochee Spring competition last month. I suppose there ought to be a regulation if that's an issue. I figured it just came down to a time issue. If there are dozens of competitors, obviously you wouldn't have time to advance everyone. But since both of these competitions were fairly small, it was feasible to allow everyone to advance. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and noiced > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > competition format?? > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel free > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon have > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > competition if you ask me. > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > /Gunnar >
3734. Re: Competition formats
From: "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:15:58 -0000

I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity of the organization I wouldn't have done it. In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These questions could have been raised over a month ago. -Richard --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and noiced > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > competition format?? > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel free > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon have > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > competition if you ask me. > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > /Gunnar >
3735. Re: Competition formats
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:28:04 -0000

I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a competition. By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of competing. Just wanted to raise this question. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > -Richard > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > noiced > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > competition format?? > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > free > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > have > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > competition if you ask me. > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > /Gunnar > > >
3736. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 14:42:56 -0700 (PDT)

yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps where everyone gets a couple chances. ----- Original Message ---- From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a competition. By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of competing. Just wanted to raise this question. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" <richy_jr_2000@...> wrote: > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > -Richard > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > noiced > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > competition format?? > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > free > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > have > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > competition if you ask me. > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > /Gunnar > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3737. [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 21:51:32 -0000

About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have appeared at several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added because we had some time left. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps where everyone gets a couple chances. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > competition. > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > -Richard > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > noiced > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > competition format?? > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > > free > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > have > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3738. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:25:53 -0700 (PDT)

nah its cool, just no one complain when i get my longest haired biggest bearded most tattooed fastest solve world record :P ----- Original Message ---- From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:51:32 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have appeared at several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added because we had some time left. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps where everyone gets a couple chances. > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > competition. > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > -Richard > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > noiced > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > competition format?? > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > > free > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > have > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3739. [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:34:24 -0000

What's the problem with "wierd" events? If someone works very hard at home on a particular puzzle that isn't one of the main puzzles, why can't they go and set a WR with it? After it's been set, maybe it will encourage others to work on that puzzle too, and someday it may become a main event at competitions. I would love it if someone worked hard on the Rainbow cube and asked to solve it in a competition to try and beat my record. Not only would it encourage me to work harder, but I could then talk to that person about the puzzle instead of always having to talk about the 3x3x3. I'm sure record holders in other events feel the same way. Don't put down other puzzles or events just because you don't like them. Keep working on your main puzzles if you want, and I'll work on whatever I choose, and let's all have some fun. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish > competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt > it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row > because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and > discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they > don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better > to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have appeared at > several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added because we > had some time left. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is > still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its > nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least > there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at > once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added > just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps > where everyone gets a couple chances. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@> > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, > > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > > competition. > > > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements > > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > > noiced > > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > > competition format?? > > > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > > > free > > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > > have > > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Puzzle games > Game puzzle > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! 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3740. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:41:34 -0700 (PDT)

i think so too, i think any sort of twistypuzzle is eligible and should be considered. however many many variations of that puzzle usually aren't really necessary, i don't see the point in disguishing who can solve it 3 times in row standing on one foot the fastest. :) ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Parlette <cparlett@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:34:24 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats What's the problem with "wierd" events? If someone works very hard at home on a particular puzzle that isn't one of the main puzzles, why can't they go and set a WR with it? After it's been set, maybe it will encourage others to work on that puzzle too, and someday it may become a main event at competitions. I would love it if someone worked hard on the Rainbow cube and asked to solve it in a competition to try and beat my record. Not only would it encourage me to work harder, but I could then talk to that person about the puzzle instead of always having to talk about the 3x3x3. I'm sure record holders in other events feel the same way. Don't put down other puzzles or events just because you don't like them. Keep working on your main puzzles if you want, and I'll work on whatever I choose, and let's all have some fun. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish > competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt > it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row > because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and > discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they > don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better > to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have appeared at > several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added because we > had some time left. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is > still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its > nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least > there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at > once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added > just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps > where everyone gets a couple chances. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@> > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, > > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > > competition. > > > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements > > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > > noiced > > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > > competition format?? > > > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > > > free > > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > > have > > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Puzzle games > Game puzzle > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! 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3741. [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:48:45 -0000

I agree, but if the wierdest thing is the 3-in-a-row, I think we're still doing well. That and the 2x2OH aren't too farfetched. I do think the next WC should have an official "Drunk Cubing" event on Friday night, just for hilarity. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > i think so too, i think any sort of twistypuzzle is eligible and should be considered. however many many variations of that puzzle usually aren't really necessary, i don't see the point in disguishing who can solve it 3 times in row standing on one foot the fastest. :) > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Chris Parlette <cparlett@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:34:24 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > What's the problem with "wierd" events? If someone works very hard at > home on a particular puzzle that isn't one of the main puzzles, why > can't they go and set a WR with it? After it's been set, maybe it > will encourage others to work on that puzzle too, and someday it may > become a main event at competitions. > > I would love it if someone worked hard on the Rainbow cube and asked > to solve it in a competition to try and beat my record. Not only > would it encourage me to work harder, but I could then talk to that > person about the puzzle instead of always having to talk about the > 3x3x3. I'm sure record holders in other events feel the same way. > > Don't put down other puzzles or events just because you don't like > them. Keep working on your main puzzles if you want, and I'll work on > whatever I choose, and let's all have some fun. > > -Chris Parlette > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish > > competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt > > it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row > > because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and > > discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they > > don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better > > to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have appeared at > > several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added because we > > had some time left. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is > > still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its > > nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least > > there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at > > once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added > > just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps > > where everyone gets a couple chances. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@> > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > > > > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > > > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > > > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the > world, > > > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > > > competition. > > > > > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great > achievements > > > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > > > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be > some > > > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT > tournament, > > > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > > > noiced > > > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded > to the > > > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > > > competition format?? > > > > > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can > feel > > > > free > > > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > > > have > > > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot > like a > > > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw puzzle > > game Free puzzle inlay games > > Educational game and puzzle > > Word > > puzzle game Puzzle games > > Game puzzle > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3742. [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:54:59 -0000

I still don't understand why no one will let me do a 2x2 BLD record...I've wanted to for a LONG time...meh... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...> wrote: > > I agree, but if the wierdest thing is the 3-in-a-row, I think we're > still doing well. That and the 2x2OH aren't too farfetched. I do > think the next WC should have an official "Drunk Cubing" event on > Friday night, just for hilarity. > > -Chris Parlette > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > i think so too, i think any sort of twistypuzzle is eligible and > should be considered. however many many variations of that puzzle > usually aren't really necessary, i don't see the point in disguishing > who can solve it 3 times in row standing on one foot the fastest. :) > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Chris Parlette <cparlett@> > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 3:34:24 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > > > What's the problem with "wierd" events? If someone works very > hard at > > home on a particular puzzle that isn't one of the main puzzles, why > > can't they go and set a WR with it? After it's been set, maybe it > > will encourage others to work on that puzzle too, and someday it may > > become a main event at competitions. > > > > I would love it if someone worked hard on the Rainbow cube and asked > > to solve it in a competition to try and beat my record. Not only > > would it encourage me to work harder, but I could then talk to that > > person about the puzzle instead of always having to talk about the > > 3x3x3. I'm sure record holders in other events feel the same way. > > > > Don't put down other puzzles or events just because you don't like > > them. Keep working on your main puzzles if you want, and I'll work on > > whatever I choose, and let's all have some fun. > > > > -Chris Parlette > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish > > > competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt > > > it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row > > > because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and > > > discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they > > > don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better > > > to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have > appeared at > > > several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added > because we > > > had some time left. > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > > > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, > there is > > > still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its > > > nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least > > > there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at > > > once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added > > > just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps > > > where everyone gets a couple chances. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@> > > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > > > > > > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a > similar > > > > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more > than one > > > > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the > > world, > > > > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get > to a > > > > competition. > > > > > > > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great > > achievements > > > > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > > > > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be > > some > > > > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > > > > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > > > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the > integrity > > > > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > > > > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > > > > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors > advanced to > > > > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT > > tournament, > > > > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced > to the > > > > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. > These > > > > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > > > > noiced > > > > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded > > to the > > > > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two > rounds > > > > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > > > > competition format?? > > > > > > > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format > where some > > > > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can > > feel > > > > > free > > > > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, > and let > > > > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will > soon > > > > > have > > > > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot > > like a > > > > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > > Jigsaw puzzle > > > game Free puzzle inlay games > > > Educational game and puzzle > > > Word > > > puzzle game Puzzle games > > > Game puzzle > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3743. Re: Competition formats
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:29:29 -0000

Hmm... thinking... what exactly was the point of having a third round at RWC 2005? I do understand the first/second round separation, saved the time for two solves of many slow cubers. But after the second round the top people already had an average and the fastest could've been declared winner. Why wasn't he? And just in case the reason was to give people more opportunities to do a fast average, why didn't the faster one count? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and noiced > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > competition format?? > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel free > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon have > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > competition if you ask me. > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > /Gunnar >
3744. Re: Competition formats
From: "mmwfung1985" <mmwfung1985@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 00:39:10 -0000

Hi everyone, I am really against rounds where all competitiors proceeded to the next round. Because in a competition the most important factor is competition pressure. And in these rounds this kind of pressure are missing. But I think I have a good alternative. For example if you have 8 competitiors and you want do 3 rounds you can use this system: The 4 fastest competiors in the first round will proceede to group A in the second round and the 4 slowest competiors to group B. Then the second round: the 2 fastest competiors in group A will compete for the first and second places in the third round and the two slowest competiors in group A compete for the places 3 and 4. Further the 2 fastest competiors in group B will compete for the places 5 and 6 in the third round and the two slowest competiors in group B compete for the places 7 and 8. With this system every competitior will compete in three rounds and there is still competition pressure. What do you think about this? Michael Fung --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody!! > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and noiced > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > competition format?? > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel free > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon have > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > competition if you ask me. > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > /Gunnar >
3745. [Speed cubing group] Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:15:30 -0000

Too bad you didn't make it to Tennessee. We only had 20% Chris's at the competition! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...> wrote: > > So somewhere between work and school, I was assuming you guys meant > "Tennessee" throughout this whole thing. Now that I'm on the right > page, I don't think I can come to the Chattahoochee competition. > However, I am doing my best to get to the Tennessee competition. Now > that there are 4 Chris's in the conversation (actually, cubesmith > makes 5), we might have to make those jerseys a reality! > > -Chris Parlette
3746. [Speed cubing group] Re: Chattahoochee Spring Competition
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 01:49:53 -0000

Haha I wish I could have been there, it would have been way better than what I was doing instead (2 compsci programs due within 24hrs of each other on saturday). We'll have to do those jerseys some other time. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Too bad you didn't make it to Tennessee. We only had 20% Chris's at > the competition! > > Chris > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Parlette" > <cparlett@> wrote: > > > > So somewhere between work and school, I was assuming you guys meant > > "Tennessee" throughout this whole thing. Now that I'm on the right > > page, I don't think I can come to the Chattahoochee competition. > > However, I am doing my best to get to the Tennessee competition. Now > > that there are 4 Chris's in the conversation (actually, cubesmith > > makes 5), we might have to make those jerseys a reality! > > > > -Chris Parlette >
3747. Re: Help with a 2-generator sequence
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 02:36:28 -0000

R U R' U R U' R' U R U2 R' Wait, what kind of four corner orientation? Preserving edges, or what? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Here's a sequence that twists all 4 corners of the U face: > > (R U') R U R U (R' U')(R' U')(R2 U' R U R' U' R U' R') > > It is a little long, but I like the fact that it contains only one half- > turn, and the last 9 turns run together smoothly. > > But R U R U is awkward. I do the U turns with right index finger, but > this leaves my hand badly placed for the following R or R' turns. > > Any hints for R U R U? > > Mike >
3748. Square-1 Scrambler
From: unscarred1925 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:34:25 -0000

Has anyone has a program or software for scrambling a square-1? Thanks
3749. Re: CAL Day
From: "morethanfourlove" <morethanfourlove@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 05:48:58 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go there next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some questions. I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are out there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let me know! > > Thanks a bunch! > Jeremy Fleischman > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is the Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the last corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge piece out, but how do I get that last one in? > > Thanks again! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3750. Re: Help with a 2-generator sequence
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:25:32 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > what kind of four corner orientation? > Preserving edges, or what? Yes, preserving edges. Mike
3751. Re: Square-1 Scrambler
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:28:45 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, unscarred1925 <no_reply@...> wrote: > Has anyone has a program or software for scrambling a square-1? Thanks Try Jaap's - http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/scramblesq1.htm Mike
3752. Re: [Speed cubing group] Square-1 Scrambler
From: "Dennis Nilsson" <massimo@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:28:55 +0200 (CEST)

This is what you are looking for http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/scramblesq1.htm // Dennis www.cubeloop.com > Has anyone has a program or software for scrambling a square-1? Thanks
3753. Re: Competition formats
From: "karekrig" <karkr936@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 08:25:06 -0000

I agree that qualification rounds where every one is sure to qualify to the next round is a bit strange. If there is time to let everyone make two averages I think a better way is to let the top cubers qualify for the final and let the slower ones go to a B final. Mabye with the two fastest from the b final geting a place in the a final. /Kåre --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > competition. > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > -Richard > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > noiced > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > competition format?? > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > > free > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > have > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > >
3754. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:52:46 +0200

Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to this. ----- Original Message ----- From: Timothy Sun To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone else > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > Tobias > First Layer OLL PLL Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3755. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:40:08 -0000

Hi!!! My method is like this: Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. Step 3: Permutate everything. 5 algs. That's the basic. What I try to do during inspection is to see what the second step will be and if I can execute Step 1+2 as one move. I also look for cancelling moves, meaning that I see that some, or all, of the turn I have to do in first step is the start of step 2 backwards. That way I can sometimes do step 1+2 in 5-7 moves. Now I'm planning to learn how to do step 2+3 in one move. A lot of algs to learn :-/ /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to this. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Timothy Sun > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone else > > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > > > Tobias > > > > First Layer > OLL > PLL > > Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P > > Tim > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3756. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:56:04 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi!!! > > My method is like this: > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > Step 3: Permutate everything. 5 algs. > http://rubikscube.info/ortega.html > That's the basic. What I try to do during inspection is to see what > the second step will be and if I can execute Step 1+2 as one move. I > also look for cancelling moves, meaning that I see that some, or all, > of the turn I have to do in first step is the start of step 2 > backwards. That way I can sometimes do step 1+2 in 5-7 moves. > > Now I'm planning to learn how to do step 2+3 in one move. A lot of > algs to learn :-/ 8x6x3 cases (minus symmetries), right? This method is for the courageous, but it looks like the fastest possible 2^3 strategy to me. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to this. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Timothy Sun > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" > > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > > > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone else > > > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > > > > > Tobias > > > > > > > First Layer > > OLL > > PLL > > > > Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3757. Draughons Eastern 2006
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 13:34:47 -0000

Hey everyone, I'm back from the Draughons Eastern competition. It was small but we had a good showing of some serious cubers, and it was a ton of fun. I did my best ever in a competition with a sub-30 average in the finals. Thanks to Richard Patterson and Chris Hardwick for their work in organizing and running this one. I took 5 hours of video, which will take some time to go through and edit. Here's a neat clip to start with, though. It's Frank Morris doing a 5x5x5, 4x4x4, 3x3x3, 2x2x2 relay. It was not an official event but still pretty wicked to witness: http://tinyurl.com/nvtm9 It was 3:53.12, only 25 seconds shy of his unofficial record. Enjoy! Chris
3758. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: "Evan Gates" <evan.gates@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 07:06:05 -0700

I'm not sure if they have one at Carnegie Mellon, but if they don't, then I'm definitely starting one next year. -Evan Until next time, Happy Cubing http://www.deepcube.net On 4/24/06, morethanfourlove <morethanfourlove@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go there > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some questions. > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are out > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let me > know! > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is the > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the last > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge piece > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=aR-DP6ec8tvroD_ujh4RIQ> Free > puzzle inlay games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=_HQyec41D62inOWXGV6LEQ> Educational > game and puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=_iBaOcMxfjGOZwx7B5W8GQ> Word > puzzle game<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=h4cnVVmR9GjoR6io3-aTgg> Puzzle > games<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=mbaDyh-YZXs1tlnkdvXiVA> Game > puzzle<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Game+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5=Puzzle+games&w6=Game+puzzle&c=6&s=143&.sig=zlOQ1RvV4Jb6bmAF-XtKjw> > > ------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > - Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube>" > on the web. > > - To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> > > - Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. > > > ------------------------------ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3759. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:11:23 -0000

Ortega method, in QTM, boasts a nice 20 move average, which is pretty good. Outlined here: Orient any color, disregard permutation (this part I like. :P) Orient other side, 7 algorithms. Permute all at once, 5 (?) algorithms. Very nice. :P http://www.rubikscube.info Josef Jelinek has those algorithms there. @Gunnar: Why does your PLL have five algorithms? I only see the need for two: Cycle 3, Swap two pairs.
3760. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:17:52 -0000

Will there be a Rutgers Summer competition? I'll be in NJ there at that time.
3761. [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:24:39 -0000

I want to compete in the biggest beard category; although, I just had it trimmed. :( ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > nah its cool, just no one complain when i get my longest haired biggest bearded most tattooed fastest solve world record :P > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@...> > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:51:32 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > About "wierd" events, I guess you are thinking about the swedish > competitions. We didn't choose to have them to get WRs. We just felt > it would be fun to compete in events like 2*2 OH and 3 in a row > because there are a few swedes that have been practicing that and > discussing the results in the swedish cube site. I don't mind if they > don't count as official WRs. As a matter of fact, I think it's better > to keep these odd events off the WR table, until they have appeared at > several competitions. The "3 in a row"-event was just added because we > had some time left. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > yeah i don't think it should matter at all how many rounds, there is > still only 1 winner and that's really all that counts. i think its > nice everyone got 3 chances to record a good average. and at least > there weren't any weird made up events being done, like 3 cubes at > once or 2x2 oh....i'm more concerned about random events being added > just to get wr at them because no one else does them than about comps > where everyone gets a couple chances. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Gunnar Krig <gunkr520@> > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:28:04 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats > > > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche competition had a similar > > format. I can see that it can be nice for people to get more than one > > attempt, even if they are not among the very best cubers in the world, > > because there are not that many possibilities each year to get to a > > competition. > > > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made some great achievements > > at the competition. I don't want to take away your chances of > > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, there will be some > > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I decided to advance > > > everyone. If I thought this action would compromise the integrity > > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two rounds. Sorry. > > > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all competitors advanced to > > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds at THAT tournament, > > > but the point is that everyone in that tournament advanced to the > > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to the final. These > > > questions could have been raised over a month ago. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern competition and > > > noiced > > > > that there were three rouns where all competitiors proceeded to the > > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I think that this is a > > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. The first two rounds > > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules have to say about > > > > competition format?? > > > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional format where some > > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or otherwise we can feel > > > free > > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each competition, and let > > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That way we will soon > > > have > > > > those perfect times as world records, but it won't be a lot like a > > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle > game Free puzzle inlay games > Educational game and puzzle > Word > puzzle game Puzzle games > Game puzzle > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3762. Re: CAL Day
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:28:05 -0000

We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each of mats & displays. :) ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" <morethanfourlove@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go there > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some questions. > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are out > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let me > know! > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is the > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the last > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge piece > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3763. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Competition - Who's going???
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:30:02 -0000

Unfortunately, no. The school only lets me schedule events at Rutgers during the academic year. If there was a summer competition, it would have to be at a different location. Since I am the one who holds on to the club's equipment, though, I would still have the mats & displays, etc. Just not the venue. ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Will there be a Rutgers Summer competition? I'll be in NJ there at that > time. >
3764. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:53:17 -0000

Please read the messages before answering. I already gave the link to the method on Josef's site and Gunnar do not use "PLL". Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Ortega method, in QTM, boasts a nice 20 move average, which is pretty > good. > > Outlined here: > > Orient any color, disregard permutation (this part I like. :P) > Orient other side, 7 algorithms. > Permute all at once, 5 (?) algorithms. > > Very nice. :P > > http://www.rubikscube.info > > Josef Jelinek has those algorithms there. > > @Gunnar: Why does your PLL have five algorithms? I only see the need > for two: Cycle 3, Swap two pairs. >
3765. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 14:53:15 -0000

Because I have to permutate both U and D layers. During step 1+2 I only solve two opposite SIDES, not LAYERS. It's faster and also gives shorter algorithms in step 3. /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > @Gunnar: Why does your PLL have five algorithms? I only see the need > for two: Cycle 3, Swap two pairs. >
3766. Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:49:40 +0000 (GMT)

Thanks Gilles, this method seems much faster than the one layer+ oll + pll method, wich I use. To be fast every time you should know coll, otherwise fast times are the result of a bit of luck. I'll start learning the algoritmes now. Tobias ----- Message d'origine ---- De : Gilles Roux <grrroux@free.fr> À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Mardi, 25 Avril 2006, 11h56mn 04s Objet : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Hi!!! > > My method is like this: > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > Step 3: Permutate everything. 5 algs. > http://rubikscube.info/ortega.html > That's the basic. What I try to do during inspection is to see what > the second step will be and if I can execute Step 1+2 as one move. I > also look for cancelling moves, meaning that I see that some, or all, > of the turn I have to do in first step is the start of step 2 > backwards. That way I can sometimes do step 1+2 in 5-7 moves. > > Now I'm planning to learn how to do step 2+3 in one move. A lot of > algs to learn :-/ 8x6x3 cases (minus symmetries), right? This method is for the courageous, but it looks like the fastest possible 2^3 strategy to me. > > /Gunnar > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to this. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Timothy Sun > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" > > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > > > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone else > > > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > > > > > Tobias > > > > > > > First Layer > > OLL > > PLL > > > > Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3767. Re: [Speed cubing group] Square-1 Scrambler
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 18:58:36 -0000

Check out Article 4 here: http://www.speedcubing.com/events/regulations.html Theres many handy scramblers there. Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Dennis Nilsson" <massimo@...> wrote: > > This is what you are looking for > http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/scramblesq1.htm > > // Dennis > www.cubeloop.com > > > Has anyone has a program or software for scrambling a square-1? Thanks >
3768. Re: CAL Day
From: "morethanfourlove" <morethanfourlove@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:23:25 -0000

How about california schools? UCs maybe =] --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@...> wrote: > > We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each of > mats & displays. :) > > ~ Bob > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, Jeremy Fleischman > > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go there > > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some questions. > > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are out > > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let me > > know! > > > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is the > > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the last > > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge piece > > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
3769. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:49:11 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. Not addressed to you in particular, I've just seen this too many times from too many people now: http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000245.htm Cheers! Stefan
3770. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:04:10 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > Not addressed to you in particular, I've just seen this too many times > from too many people now: > http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000245.htm > > Cheers! > Stefan > Man, learn to grammar! ~Thom
3771. Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "kovacic81" <kovacic81@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:57:46 -0000

This is the original way I learned to do the cube ("JEff solves the cube in 45 seconds") In one look, you need to know how to orient 4 corners and to know how many correct edges you have ahead of time (and where they are). You can do step 1 in less than 5 moves on avg You can do step 2 in 6 moves on avg You can then do step 3 in less than 7 moves on avg I think that this is a good method, but I think that FL + CLL has potential to be faster. Marc Waterman used to avg 16 sec with FL + CLL (he used around 500 algs for the edges-- I only know 12 of them) I previously used this for CF method. I was going to start learning lots of algs, but then I saw that someone had come up with a much faster way to make a Corners First Configuration. And an easier, more intuitive way of finishing it. jASON kOVACIc --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > Thanks Gilles, this method seems much faster than the one layer+ oll + pll method, wich I use. To be fast every time you should know coll, otherwise fast times are the result of a bit of luck. > > I'll start learning the algoritmes now. > > Tobias > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > De : Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> > À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Envoyé le : Mardi, 25 Avril 2006, 11h56mn 04s > Objet : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi!!! > > > > My method is like this: > > > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > Step 3: Permutate everything. 5 algs. > > > > > > > > That's the basic. What I try to do during inspection is to see what > > the second step will be and if I can execute Step 1+2 as one move. I > > also look for cancelling moves, meaning that I see that some, or all, > > of the turn I have to do in first step is the start of step 2 > > backwards. That way I can sometimes do step 1+2 in 5-7 moves. > > > > Now I'm planning to learn how to do step 2+3 in one move. A lot of > > algs to learn :-/ > > > 8x6x3 cases (minus symmetries), right? > This method is for the courageous, but it looks like the fastest > possible 2^3 strategy to me. > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to > this. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Timothy Sun > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" > > > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > > > > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone > else > > > > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > > > > > > > Tobias > > > > > > > > > > First Layer > > > OLL > > > PLL > > > > > > Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3772. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Competition formats
From: Crispy <redivre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:35:22 -0700 (PDT)

I can see the advantage of something like this but then it brings up the question of time. Are people going to have 3x3 A and B finals and then not have enough time for the other events? --- karekrig <karkr936@...> wrote: > > I agree that qualification rounds where every one is > sure to qualify > to the next round is a bit strange. If there is time > to let everyone > make two averages I think a better way is to let the > top cubers > qualify for the final and let the slower ones go to > a B final. Mabye > with the two fastest from the b final geting a place > in the a final. > > /K�re > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > > > I guess I didn't notice that chattahooche > competition had a similar > > format. I can see that it can be nice for people > to get more than one > > attempt, even if they are not among the very best > cubers in the world, > > because there are not that many possibilities each > year to get to a > > competition. > > > > By the way, congratulations everybody who made > some great achievements > > at the competition. I don't want to take away > your chances of > > competing. Just wanted to raise this question. > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "richy_jr_2000" > > <richy_jr_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > I've already talked to Ron and Tyson about this, > there will be some > > > guidelines added to the WCA rules regarding it. > > > > > > Because of the small number of competitors I > decided to advance > > > everyone. If I thought this action would > compromise the integrity > > > of the organization I wouldn't have done it. > > > > > > In retrospect, I should have only done two > rounds. Sorry. > > > > > > At the chattahooche (sp?) competition all > competitors advanced to > > > the final round. Yes there were only two rounds > at THAT tournament, > > > but the point is that everyone in that > tournament advanced to the > > > final, and everyone at my tournament advanced to > the final. These > > > questions could have been raised over a month > ago. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, > "Gunnar Krig" > > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi everybody!! > > > > > > > > I just saw the results from Draughons Eastern > competition and > > > noiced > > > > that there were three rouns where all > competitiors proceeded to the > > > > next round. I don't know about you, but I > think that this is a > > > > verystrange way of organizing a competition. > The first two rounds > > > > doesn't mean anything!!! What does the rules > have to say about > > > > competition format?? > > > > > > > > My point is that, either we have a traditional > format where some > > > > people do not proceed to the next round, or > otherwise we can feel > > > free > > > > tto have as many rounds as we want in each > competition, and let > > > > everybody do as many solves as they want. That > way we will soon > > > have > > > > those perfect times as world records, but it > won't be a lot like a > > > > competition if you ask me. > > > > > > > > So, what's your opinions about this?? > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Hope you have the time of your life" - GD Christy (Crispy) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3773. Re: CAL Day
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 05:36:56 -0000

I can't believe I missed it! when was this? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" <morethanfourlove@...> wrote: > > How about california schools? UCs maybe =] > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > wrote: > > > > We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > > displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each > of > > mats & displays. :) > > > > ~ Bob > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > > > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > > > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > > > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > > > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go > there > > > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > > > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > > > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some > questions. > > > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > > > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > > > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are > out > > > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > > > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > > > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let > me > > > know! > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is > the > > > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the > last > > > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > > > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge > piece > > > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > >
3774. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:48:59 +0200

Robert Burchfield, for many years the Chief Editor of the Oxford English Dictionary, has written that "I have decided to use the shorter form myself in all contexts, but the saving is not great. And one can have no fundamental quarrel with anyone who decides to use the longer of the two words." ----- Original Message ----- From: thomkirjava To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > Not addressed to you in particular, I've just seen this too many times > from too many people now: > http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000245.htm > > Cheers! > Stefan > Man, learn to grammar! ~Thom SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3775. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:06:30 -0000

Funny you would mention that. I use to say orient, but while writing that very message I thought: "Wait a minute!! Isn't it 'orientate'?? Yes, it is!!" :-) I checked it up in a swedish-english dictionary online, that said both were OK. But I see now on "your" page, that I should use "orient". /Gunnar --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > Not addressed to you in particular, I've just seen this too many times > from too many people now: > http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000245.htm > > Cheers! > Stefan >
3776. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:26:27 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: Gunnar Krig To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:06 AM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method Funny you would mention that. I use to say orient, but while writing that very message I thought: "Wait a minute!! Isn't it 'orientate'?? Yes, it is!!" :-) I checked it up in a swedish-english dictionary online, that said both were OK. But I see now on "your" page, that I should use "orient". /Gunnar I can´t follow you, Gunnar. Are you joking? R ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3777. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:40:09 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gunnar Krig > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:06 AM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > Funny you would mention that. I use to say orient, but while writing > that very message I thought: "Wait a minute!! Isn't it 'orientate'?? > Yes, it is!!" :-) > > I checked it up in a swedish-english dictionary online, that said both > were OK. But I see now on "your" page, that I should use "orient". > > /Gunnar > > I can´t follow you, Gunnar. Are you joking? > R What is unclear? I don't see what you would think is a joke. I went to this page: http://lexikon.nada.kth.se/cgi-bin/swe-eng and searched for the swedish word for orientate, and it sure was "orientera". I was satisfied with that. Now, reading on the page Stefan gave me, I see that: "Orientate is more widely accepted in the U.K. than in the U.S.A., but it should be avoided in any formal or standard writing", so I guess that means I better use "orient". A moment ago, when I searched for the translation, on "my" page, for "orient", I got the same translation as "orientate", but it also says orient (more commonly orientate) /Gunnar
3778. Re: 2x2 cube method
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 09:14:12 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > Not addressed to you in particular, I've just seen this too many times > from too many people now: Orientate is the usual form in British English. Even if it really is a back formation, it is debatable whether that is a bad thing: if we didn't allow it, we wouldn't even be able to use the noun "pea", for example! Mike
3779. Hong Kong
From: "Daniel Harris" <dan_j_harris@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>, <fewestmoveschalenge@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:52:30 +0100

Hi everybody, I am off to Hong Kong for a week, to give speedcubing demonstrations at the HK TDC Gifts & Premium Fair 28 April - 1 May 2006. I will have limited access to my email, but will post occasionally on my blog or website if I can find an Internet café, which is likely :) I’ll be back on the 4th of May, and I promise to restart the FMC when I get back! Dan H :) – www.cubestation.co.uk [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3780. Re : Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:36:05 +0000 (GMT)

I think it isn't really usefull to learn 500 algoritmes when your goal is to solve the 2x2 cube in an average of 16 seconds. ----- Message d'origine ---- De : kovacic81 <kovacic81@...> À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Mercredi, 26 Avril 2006, 1h57mn 46s Objet : Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method This is the original way I learned to do the cube ("JEff solves the cube in 45 seconds") In one look, you need to know how to orient 4 corners and to know how many correct edges you have ahead of time (and where they are). You can do step 1 in less than 5 moves on avg You can do step 2 in 6 moves on avg You can then do step 3 in less than 7 moves on avg I think that this is a good method, but I think that FL + CLL has potential to be faster. Marc Waterman used to avg 16 sec with FL + CLL (he used around 500 algs for the edges-- I only know 12 of them) I previously used this for CF method. I was going to start learning lots of algs, but then I saw that someone had come up with a much faster way to make a Corners First Configuration. And an easier, more intuitive way of finishing it. jASON kOVACIc --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > Thanks Gilles, this method seems much faster than the one layer+ oll + pll method, wich I use. To be fast every time you should know coll, otherwise fast times are the result of a bit of luck. > > I'll start learning the algoritmes now. > > Tobias > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > De : Gilles Roux <grrroux@...> > À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Envoyé le : Mardi, 25 Avril 2006, 11h56mn 04s > Objet : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > Hi!!! > > > > My method is like this: > > > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > Step 3: Permutate everything. 5 algs. > > > > > > > > That's the basic. What I try to do during inspection is to see what > > the second step will be and if I can execute Step 1+2 as one move. I > > also look for cancelling moves, meaning that I see that some, or all, > > of the turn I have to do in first step is the start of step 2 > > backwards. That way I can sometimes do step 1+2 in 5-7 moves. > > > > Now I'm planning to learn how to do step 2+3 in one move. A lot of > > algs to learn :-/ > > > 8x6x3 cases (minus symmetries), right? > This method is for the courageous, but it looks like the fastest > possible 2^3 strategy to me. > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to > this. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Timothy Sun > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" > > > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar had a > > > > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone > else > > > > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > > > > > > > Tobias > > > > > > > > > > First Layer > > > OLL > > > PLL > > > > > > Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Puzzle games Game puzzle > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3781. Re : Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 11:39:50 -0000

Except its more like 160-170 and his goal is for 4 second average Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > I think it isn't really usefull to learn 500 algoritmes when your goal is to solve the 2x2 cube in an average of 16 seconds. > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > De : kovacic81 <kovacic81@...> > À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Envoyé le : Mercredi, 26 Avril 2006, 1h57mn 46s > Objet : Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > This is the original way I learned to do the cube ("JEff solves the > cube in 45 seconds") > > In one look, you need to know how to orient 4 corners and to know how > many correct edges you have ahead of time (and where they are). > You can do step 1 in less than 5 moves on avg > You can do step 2 in 6 moves on avg > You can then do step 3 in less than 7 moves on avg > > I think that this is a good method, but I think that FL + CLL has > potential to be faster. Marc Waterman used to avg 16 sec with FL + > CLL (he used around 500 algs for the edges-- I only know 12 of them) > > I previously used this for CF method. I was going to start learning > lots of algs, but then I saw that someone had come up with a much > faster way to make a Corners First Configuration. And an easier, more > intuitive way of finishing it. > > > > jASON kOVACIc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tobias Daneels > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > Thanks Gilles, this method seems much faster than the one layer+ oll > + pll method, wich I use. To be fast every time you should know coll, > otherwise fast times are the result of a bit of luck. > > > > I'll start learning the algoritmes now. > > > > Tobias > > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > > De : Gilles Roux <grrroux@> > > À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > Envoyé le : Mardi, 25 Avril 2006, 11h56mn 04s > > Objet : [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi!!! > > > > > > My method is like this: > > > > > > Step 1: Orientate one side. Any color. Intuitive. > > > Step 2: Orientate the opposite side. 7 algs. > > > Step 3: Permutate everything. 5 algs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's the basic. What I try to do during inspection is to see what > > > the second step will be and if I can execute Step 1+2 as one move. I > > > also look for cancelling moves, meaning that I see that some, or all, > > > of the turn I have to do in first step is the start of step 2 > > > backwards. That way I can sometimes do step 1+2 in 5-7 moves. > > > > > > Now I'm planning to learn how to do step 2+3 in one move. A lot of > > > algs to learn :-/ > > > > > > 8x6x3 cases (minus symmetries), right? > > This method is for the courageous, but it looks like the fastest > > possible 2^3 strategy to me. > > > > > > > > > > /Gunnar > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > > > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Gunnar, you must be the right man to give an exhaustive answer to > > this. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Timothy Sun > > > > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 12:14 PM > > > > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cubewizzard" > > > > <cubewizzard@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Last weekend I was at the German cube day. I noticed Gunnar > had a > > > > > different way of solving the 2x2 cube. Maybe Gunnar or someone > > else > > > > > can explain this method or give a link where I can find it. > > > > > > > > > > Tobias > > > > > > > > > > > > > First Layer > > > > OLL > > > > PLL > > > > > > > > Well, at least that's how I see it, and what he says it to be. :P > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! 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3782. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:57:14 +0200

> Funny you would mention that. I use to say orient, but while writing > that very message I thought: "Wait a minute!! Isn't it 'orientate'?? > Yes, it is!!" :-) > > I checked it up in a swedish-english dictionary online, that said both > were OK. But I see now on "your" page, that I should use "orient". > > /Gunnar > > I can´t follow you, Gunnar. Are you joking? > R What is unclear? I don't see what you would think is a joke. Can´t you see the absurdity here? Some besserwisser is critizicing your use of a fully acceptable word (btw. choosing one or another word has nothing to do with "grammer") and you are ready to fall on your knees and subserviently accept "his" variant. This is supposed to be a international forum, where English is the compulsory language. At the same time the language is used here by some English spoken people on a certain continent to show there Grandness by breaking all laws valid for a correct English: spelling, slang,allusions to things that can be known only in an inner ciircle etc., etc. and in that way (with some consciousness?) making the message not understandable to many members. Tons (correct me, Thom!) of mistakes are made but nobody has never complained. Shall we, Gunnar, once for all accept the superiority of a certain nation and humbly take there behavior for good and all there words for granted? R SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3783. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:19:28 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > > Funny you would mention that. I use to say orient, but while writing > > that very message I thought: "Wait a minute!! Isn't it 'orientate'?? > > Yes, it is!!" :-) > > > > I checked it up in a swedish-english dictionary online, that said both > > were OK. But I see now on "your" page, that I should use "orient". > > > > /Gunnar > > > > I can´t follow you, Gunnar. Are you joking? > > R > > What is unclear? I don't see what you would think is a joke. > > Can´t you see the absurdity here? Some besserwisser is critizicing your use of a fully acceptable word (btw. choosing one or another word has nothing to do with "grammer") and you are ready to fall on your knees and subserviently accept "his" variant. > This is supposed to be a international forum, where English is the compulsory language. At the same time the language is used here by some English spoken people on a certain continent to show there Grandness by breaking all laws valid for a correct English: spelling, slang,allusions to things that can be known only in an inner ciircle etc., etc. and in that way (with some consciousness?) making the message not understandable to many members. Tons (correct me, Thom!) of mistakes are made but nobody has never complained. Shall we, Gunnar, once for all accept the superiority of a certain nation and humbly take there behavior for good and all there words for granted? > R OK, I see your point, Rune!! The fact that I instantly accepted Stefan's suggestion, is that I know I'm not an expert on english, so I just assumed that he knew better, otherwise he wouldn't have corrected me. Let's drop this topic now. /Gunnar
3784. Re: Hong Kong
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:19:18 -0000

Hello Dan, The last I was in Hong Kong (a month ago), the hotel I stayed at had internet. Most hotels there have internet, so you shouldn't have much of a problem. Come visit me! (I'm only two hours plane from HK) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Harris" <dan_j_harris@...> wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > > > I am off to Hong Kong for a week, to give speedcubing demonstrations at the > HK TDC Gifts & Premium Fair 28 April - 1 May 2006. > > > > I will have limited access to my email, but will post occasionally on my > blog or website if I can find an Internet caf? which is likely :) > > > > I'll be back on the 4th of May, and I promise to restart the FMC when I get > back! > > > > Dan H :) ?www.cubestation.co.uk > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3785. Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:40:41 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > Because I have to permutate both U and D layers. During step 1+2 I > only solve two opposite SIDES, not LAYERS. It's faster and also gives > shorter algorithms in step 3. > > /Gunnar > Bleh, I still only see six. But whatever, you ARE doing the Ortega method. :P
3786. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:49:15 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: Gunnar Krig To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:19 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method OK, I see your point, Rune!! The fact that I instantly accepted Stefan's suggestion, is that I know I'm not an expert on english, so I just assumed that he knew better, otherwise he wouldn't have corrected me. Gunnar Has STefan said it, I´ll excuse you. R SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3787. Timer for Speedcubing
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:14:46 -0000

Hi all http://rubiks.tw/timer/ It was made by Taiwan cuber. Welcome to join us. :)
3788. Re: [Speed cubing group] Timer for Speedcubing
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:51:15 -0300 (ART)

Nice timer man! You could just change that "Three! Two! One!" for a beep...hehe Pedro cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> escreveu: Hi all http://rubiks.tw/timer/ It was made by Taiwan cuber. Welcome to join us. :) --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3789. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:50:05 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" <gunkr520@...> wrote: > > The fact that I instantly accepted Stefan's suggestion, is that > I know I'm not an expert on english, so I just assumed that he > knew better, otherwise he wouldn't have corrected me. You guys took that quite seriously :-). I'm no expert, either. It just somehow always sounded wrong to me and the link I showed was the first result of a Google search for "orientate". And Google finds 30 times as many pages with "orient", though that might have another reason. But also 24 times as many with "permute" as with "permutate"... Cheers! Stefan
3790. Re: [Speed cubing group] Timer for Speedcubing
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:58:39 -0300 (ART)

Btw, I just set a new PB on your timer! avg of 16.82, 0.01 better than my last one. Pedro cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> escreveu: Hi all http://rubiks.tw/timer/ It was made by Taiwan cuber. Welcome to join us. :) --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3791. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: KOSTAS VERDES <verdk2003@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:09:23 -0700 (PDT)

Hi, Now everything is back. ...and a major update in the next three months. www.olympicube.com www.olympicube.gr athefre <athefre@...> wrote: Oh good, I'm glad to know that it's not gone. I am very interested in getting one also. I wonder how long it would take to solve one of those 11x11's. 15 minutes? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...> wrote: > > Hey :-) > > With all the agitated interest and demand for the olympicube(s) to > become available (!!) it's no wonder that it is "dangerous" to set a > day for the release. I'm still confident at least the 6x6x6 will > finally be made widely available. Too much work has gone into it to > stop it now. And surely, if money is the issue there will be a > solution somehow :-) > > Cheers! > > -Per > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > http://www.olympicube.gr > > > > They were having server problems, but all is well. > > > > Frank > > > > Craig Bouchard <logitewty@> wrote: > > They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to > fill the > > first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want > > final testing to be safe... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" <athefre@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > > > > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked > him when > > > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple of > > > months". > > > > > > Is there a new site? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > Great rates starting at 1��/min. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3792. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:26:07 -0700 (PDT)

Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? Jeremy Fleischman skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: I can't believe I missed it! when was this? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" <morethanfourlove@...> wrote: > > How about california schools? UCs maybe =] > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > wrote: > > > > We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > > displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each > of > > mats & displays. :) > > > > ~ Bob > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > > > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > > > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > > > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > > > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go > there > > > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > > > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > > > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some > questions. > > > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > > > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > > > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are > out > > > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > > > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > > > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let > me > > > know! > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is > the > > > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the > last > > > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > > > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge > piece > > > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3793. No Subject
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:52:46 -0700 (PDT)

hey just an update for everyone, frank and i have put some new material up on bigcubes and done some revising and whatnot. the process is still in progress, but since the majority of the big changes/add on's are done, the new stuff has been uploaded. please excuse the lack of design as is always the case with bigcubes as well as any spelling or grammatical erros, as i haven't got that far yet :) among the updates are advanced applets for 4x4 and 5x5 edge pairing, a 5x5 edge pairing video, progress gauges and some updates to the final edges index. if anyone notices parts of the site being weird over the next week or so, its probably because its being worked on. thanks again to everyone that comes to bigcubes and links to/recommends us, we have been doubleing the unique hits we get everymonth, last month had 450 new uniques! as we aim to please we were wondering if there was anything users look for on the site we are missing. we have added a lot of stuff so be sure to look it over before suggesting anything. also on the slate is a dis/re assembly page and a faq page (which we would like to collect ?'s from users as well) and a recommended links page. thanks to everyone again that has made bigcubes as popular as it is. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3794. Re: Olympicubes now gone?
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:36:04 -0000

I can't wait. When they are put on sale, will all sizes be available? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, KOSTAS VERDES <verdk2003@...> wrote: > > Hi, > Now everything is back. > ...and a major update in the next three months. > www.olympicube.com > www.olympicube.gr > > > athefre <athefre@...> wrote: > Oh good, I'm glad to know that it's not gone. I am very interested > in getting one also. > > I wonder how long it would take to solve one of those 11x11's. 15 > minutes? > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Per Kristen Fredlund" > <aspiring_to_love@> wrote: > > > > Hey :-) > > > > With all the agitated interest and demand for the olympicube(s) to > > become available (!!) it's no wonder that it is "dangerous" to set > a > > day for the release. I'm still confident at least the 6x6x6 will > > finally be made widely available. Too much work has gone into it to > > stop it now. And surely, if money is the issue there will be a > > solution somehow :-) > > > > Cheers! > > > > -Per > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Frank Morris > > <ephem825@> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.olympicube.gr > > > > > > They were having server problems, but all is well. > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > Craig Bouchard <logitewty@> wrote: > > > They'll be out soon enough, they gotta mass produce enough to > > fill the > > > first orders...that will probably take a while...and they may want > > > final testing to be safe... > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "athefre" > <athefre@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Olympicube.com doesn't appear to exist anymore. > > > > > > > > Doesn't really surprise me. When twistypuzzles members asked > > him when > > > > they would be out, he would always say "soon" or "In a couple > of > > > > months". > > > > > > > > Is there a new site? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. > > Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3795. No Subject
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:44:20 -0000

Very nice. I really like how you added descriptions of how the last sets of 5x5x5 edges algorithms work. I always find it easier to learn something with an understanding than by rote. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > hey just an update for everyone, frank and i have put some new material up on bigcubes and done some revising and whatnot. the process is still in progress, but since the majority of the big changes/add on's are done, the new stuff has been uploaded. please excuse the lack of design as is always the case with bigcubes as well as any spelling or grammatical erros, as i haven't got that far yet :) among the updates are advanced applets for 4x4 and 5x5 edge pairing, a 5x5 edge pairing video, progress gauges and some updates to the final edges index. if anyone notices parts of the site being weird over the next week or so, its probably because its being worked on. thanks again to everyone that comes to bigcubes and links to/recommends us, we have been doubleing the unique hits we get everymonth, last month had 450 new uniques! as we aim to please we were wondering if there was anything users look for on the site we are missing. we have added a lot of stuff so be sure to > look it over before suggesting anything. also on the slate is a dis/re assembly page and a faq page (which we would like to collect ?'s from users as well) and a recommended links page. thanks to everyone again that has made bigcubes as popular as it is. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3796. Re : [Speed cubing group] (unknown)
From: Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:24:54 +0000 (GMT)

This is maybe a stupid question but where can I find these uploads and 5x5 methods?? ----- Message d'origine ---- De : christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Mercredi, 26 Avril 2006, 10h44mn 20s Objet : [Speed cubing group] (unknown) Very nice. I really like how you added descriptions of how the last sets of 5x5x5 edges algorithms work. I always find it easier to learn something with an understanding than by rote. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > hey just an update for everyone, frank and i have put some new material up on bigcubes and done some revising and whatnot. the process is still in progress, but since the majority of the big changes/add on's are done, the new stuff has been uploaded. please excuse the lack of design as is always the case with bigcubes as well as any spelling or grammatical erros, as i haven't got that far yet :) among the updates are advanced applets for 4x4 and 5x5 edge pairing, a 5x5 edge pairing video, progress gauges and some updates to the final edges index. if anyone notices parts of the site being weird over the next week or so, its probably because its being worked on. thanks again to everyone that comes to bigcubes and links to/recommends us, we have been doubleing the unique hits we get everymonth, last month had 450 new uniques! as we aim to please we were wondering if there was anything users look for on the site we are missing. we have added a lot of stuff so be sure to > look it over before suggesting anything. also on the slate is a dis/re assembly page and a faq page (which we would like to collect ?'s from users as well) and a recommended links page. thanks to everyone again that has made bigcubes as popular as it is. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3797. Re: Re : [Speed cubing group] (unknown)
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:32:26 -0700 (PDT)

haha sorry www.bigcubes.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:24:54 PM Subject: Re : [Speed cubing group] (unknown) This is maybe a stupid question but where can I find these uploads and 5x5 methods?? ----- Message d'origine ---- De : christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Mercredi, 26 Avril 2006, 10h44mn 20s Objet : [Speed cubing group] (unknown) Very nice. I really like how you added descriptions of how the last sets of 5x5x5 edges algorithms work. I always find it easier to learn something with an understanding than by rote. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > hey just an update for everyone, frank and i have put some new material up on bigcubes and done some revising and whatnot. the process is still in progress, but since the majority of the big changes/add on's are done, the new stuff has been uploaded. please excuse the lack of design as is always the case with bigcubes as well as any spelling or grammatical erros, as i haven't got that far yet :) among the updates are advanced applets for 4x4 and 5x5 edge pairing, a 5x5 edge pairing video, progress gauges and some updates to the final edges index. if anyone notices parts of the site being weird over the next week or so, its probably because its being worked on. thanks again to everyone that comes to bigcubes and links to/recommends us, we have been doubleing the unique hits we get everymonth, last month had 450 new uniques! as we aim to please we were wondering if there was anything users look for on the site we are missing. we have added a lot of stuff so be sure to > look it over before suggesting anything. also on the slate is a dis/re assembly page and a faq page (which we would like to collect ?'s from users as well) and a recommended links page. thanks to everyone again that has made bigcubes as popular as it is. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3798. [Speed cubing group] Re: 2x2 cube method
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:44:23 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gunnar Krig" > <gunkr520@> wrote: > > > > The fact that I instantly accepted Stefan's suggestion, is that > > I know I'm not an expert on english, so I just assumed that he > > knew better, otherwise he wouldn't have corrected me. > > You guys took that quite seriously :-). I'm no expert, either. It just > somehow always sounded wrong to me and the link I showed was the first > result of a Google search for "orientate". And Google finds 30 times > as many pages with "orient", though that might have another reason. > But also 24 times as many with "permute" as with "permutate"... > > Cheers! > Stefan > Rune: Tonnes? I don't know, I'm awful at grammar and spelling :) To note: orientate is in the oxford english dictionary. (you can even check it online) as is permutate. http://tinyurl.com/fpmwk http://tinyurl.com/zp5nb As you can see from the links, it appears either case can be used in any situation. The oxford english dictionary is about as official as it gets for the english language. Craig: now you can shut up, I was right ;). And you can't even spell colour... :P ~Thom
3799. No Subject
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:40:39 -0000

I just got a 5x5 cube 2 days ago and I solved it a couple of times (I had a pretty hard time figuring it out) then checked that site to see if there was a faster way of doing it but there wasn't many algorithms. But now you are adding more. Thanks for updating. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, christopher_pelley <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Very nice. I really like how you added descriptions of how the last > sets of 5x5x5 edges algorithms work. I always find it easier to > learn something with an understanding than by rote. > > Chris > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > hey just an update for everyone, frank and i have put some new > material up on bigcubes and done some revising and whatnot. the > process is still in progress, but since the majority of the big > changes/add on's are done, the new stuff has been uploaded. please > excuse the lack of design as is always the case with bigcubes as > well as any spelling or grammatical erros, as i haven't got that far > yet :) among the updates are advanced applets for 4x4 and 5x5 edge > pairing, a 5x5 edge pairing video, progress gauges and some updates > to the final edges index. if anyone notices parts of the site being > weird over the next week or so, its probably because its being > worked on. thanks again to everyone that comes to bigcubes and > links to/recommends us, we have been doubleing the unique hits we > get everymonth, last month had 450 new uniques! as we aim to please > we were wondering if there was anything users look for on the site > we are missing. we have added a lot of stuff so be sure to > > look it over before suggesting anything. also on the slate is a > dis/re assembly page and a faq page (which we would like to > collect ?'s from users as well) and a recommended links page. thanks > to everyone again that has made bigcubes as popular as it is. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3800. Re: Square-1 Scrambler
From: unscarred1925 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:20:26 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, unscarred1925 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > Has anyone has a program or software for scrambling a square-1? Thanks > > Try Jaap's - > > http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/scramblesq1.htm > > Mike > Thanks for the help guys! Ironically I happened to find it after I post my Message. :) Thanks anyway!
3801. Vancouver Area Speed Cubers
From: "l3a1r0g" <l3a1r0g@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:02:15 -0000

Hello everyone, I've only been cubing for 3 1/2 months but im hopelessly addicted. I'm solving in about 60 seconds on my 3x3 and im looking for other addicts in the greater Vancouver area. If anyone wants to get together for some cubing some weekend and live in the greater vancouver please reply with a city, average time, and method. I live in South Surrey and I used petrus for 2 months and got a best average of 62.xx seconds. I'm currently learning fridrich and after a week and a half im at about 80-90 seconds (fridrich cross/f2l but petrus LL).
3802. [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:48:25 -0000

lol I thought it was a cube thing, sorry for my confusion. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: > > Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? > > Jeremy Fleischman > > skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > I can't believe I missed it! when was this? > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > How about california schools? UCs maybe =] > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > > wrote: > > > > > > We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > > > displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each > > of > > > mats & displays. :) > > > > > > ~ Bob > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > > > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > > > > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > > > > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > > > > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go > > there > > > > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > > > > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > > > > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > > > > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some > > questions. > > > > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > > > > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > > > > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are > > out > > > > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > > > > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > > > > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let > > me > > > > know! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > > > > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is > > the > > > > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the > > last > > > > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > > > > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge > > piece > > > > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3803. [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:46:19 -0000

I live in Emeryville and can see the university from my balcony. I wish I would have known.... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: > > Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? > > Jeremy Fleischman > > skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > I can't believe I missed it! when was this? > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > How about california schools? UCs maybe =] > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > > wrote: > > > > > > We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > > > displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each > > of > > > mats & displays. :) > > > > > > ~ Bob > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > > > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > > > > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > > > > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > > > > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go > > there > > > > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > > > > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > > > > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > > > > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some > > questions. > > > > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > > > > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > > > > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are > > out > > > > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > > > > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > > > > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let > > me > > > > know! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > > > > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is > > the > > > > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the > > last > > > > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > > > > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge > > piece > > > > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3804. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:21:11 -0700 (PDT)

No problem, it was like an open house for potential freshmen. So, are there any Berkeley cubers out there? And can anyone tell me how to put together my 2x2x2 with an Eastsheen inside? Jeremy Fleischman skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: lol I thought it was a cube thing, sorry for my confusion. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: > > Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? > > Jeremy Fleischman > > skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > I can't believe I missed it! when was this? > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > How about california schools? UCs maybe =] > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > > wrote: > > > > > > We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > > > displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each > > of > > > mats & displays. :) > > > > > > ~ Bob > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > > > <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > > > > <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > > > > Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > > > > > I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > > > > impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go > > there > > > > next year! I'm very excited about the school. > > > > > > > > > > My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > > > > Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > > > > However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some > > questions. > > > > I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > > > > Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > > > > from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are > > out > > > > there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > > > > club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > > > > know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let > > me > > > > know! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch! > > > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > > > > > > > PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is > > the > > > > Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the > > last > > > > corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > > > > together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge > > piece > > > > out, but how do I get that last one in? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3805. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 00:28:04 -0700

US News Collegiate Rankings Blindfold Rubik's Cube Programs 1. California Institute of Technology 2. University of North Carolina 3. University of Southern California 4. Pacific Lutheran University 5. University of California Berkeley These lists were compiled based on Blindfold Rubik's Cube facilities, professors, and overall student happiness. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Jeremy Fleischman wrote: > No problem, it was like an open house for potential freshmen. > So, are there any Berkeley cubers out there? And can anyone tell me > how to put together my 2x2x2 with an Eastsheen inside? > > Jeremy Fleischman > > skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > lol I thought it was a cube thing, sorry for my confusion. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: >> >> Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). > Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? >> >> Jeremy Fleischman >> >> skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: >> I can't believe I missed it! when was this? >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" >> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: >>> >>> How about california schools? UCs maybe =] >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 >>>> displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each >>> of >>>> mats & displays. :) >>>> >>>> ~ Bob >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" >>>> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman >>>>> <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides >>>>> Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] >>>>>> I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very >>>>> impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go >>> there >>>>> next year! I'm very excited about the school. >>>>>> >>>>>> My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill >>>>> Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. >>>>> However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some >>> questions. >>>>> I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at >>>>> Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys >>>>> from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are >>> out >>>>> there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube >>>>> club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me >>>>> know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let >>> me >>>>> know! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>>>> Jeremy Fleischman >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is >>> the >>>>> Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the >>> last >>>>> corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in >>>>> together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge >>> piece >>>>> out, but how do I get that last one in? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3806. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:38:51 -0700 (PDT)

Hahahaha!....it's funny how many college ranking lists there are out there. I think the best advice I got early into the college process was not to put too much stock in the rankings. You should go wherever feels best. Jeremy Fleischman Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: US News Collegiate Rankings Blindfold Rubik's Cube Programs 1. California Institute of Technology 2. University of North Carolina 3. University of Southern California 4. Pacific Lutheran University 5. University of California Berkeley These lists were compiled based on Blindfold Rubik's Cube facilities, professors, and overall student happiness. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Jeremy Fleischman wrote: > No problem, it was like an open house for potential freshmen. > So, are there any Berkeley cubers out there? And can anyone tell me > how to put together my 2x2x2 with an Eastsheen inside? > > Jeremy Fleischman > > skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > lol I thought it was a cube thing, sorry for my confusion. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: >> >> Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). > Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? >> >> Jeremy Fleischman >> >> skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: >> I can't believe I missed it! when was this? >> >> >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" >> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: >>> >>> How about california schools? UCs maybe =] >>> >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 >>>> displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each >>> of >>>> mats & displays. :) >>>> >>>> ~ Bob >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" >>>> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman >>>>> <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides >>>>> Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] >>>>>> I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very >>>>> impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go >>> there >>>>> next year! I'm very excited about the school. >>>>>> >>>>>> My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill >>>>> Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. >>>>> However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some >>> questions. >>>>> I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at >>>>> Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys >>>>> from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are >>> out >>>>> there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube >>>>> club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me >>>>> know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let >>> me >>>>> know! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>>>> Jeremy Fleischman >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is >>> the >>>>> Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the >>> last >>>>> corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in >>>>> together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge >>> piece >>>>> out, but how do I get that last one in? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >> >> >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3807. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:44:53 -0700

Is there someone else at PLU that I don't know about?...or is Pacific Lutheran University's ranking created entirely because of me? :) -Chris On 4/27/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > US News Collegiate Rankings > Blindfold Rubik's Cube Programs > > 1. California Institute of Technology > 2. University of North Carolina > 3. University of Southern California > 4. Pacific Lutheran University > 5. University of California Berkeley > > These lists were compiled based on Blindfold Rubik's Cube facilities, > professors, and overall student happiness. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Jeremy Fleischman wrote: > > > No problem, it was like an open house for potential freshmen. > > So, are there any Berkeley cubers out there? And can anyone tell me > > how to put together my 2x2x2 with an Eastsheen inside? > > > > Jeremy Fleischman > > > > skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > > lol I thought it was a cube thing, sorry for my confusion. > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > > <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: > >> > >> Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). > > Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? > >> > >> Jeremy Fleischman > >> > >> skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: > >> I can't believe I missed it! when was this? > >> > >> > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > >> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > >>> > >>> How about california schools? UCs maybe =] > >>> > >>> > >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 > >>>> displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each > >>> of > >>>> mats & displays. :) > >>>> > >>>> ~ Bob > >>>> > >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" > >>>> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman > >>>>> <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>> Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides > >>>>> Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] > >>>>>> I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very > >>>>> impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go > >>> there > >>>>> next year! I'm very excited about the school. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill > >>>>> Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. > >>>>> However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some > >>> questions. > >>>>> I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at > >>>>> Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys > >>>>> from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are > >>> out > >>>>> there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube > >>>>> club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me > >>>>> know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let > >>> me > >>>>> know! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks a bunch! > >>>>>> Jeremy Fleischman > >>>>>> > >>>>>> PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is > >>> the > >>>>> Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the > >>> last > >>>>> corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in > >>>>> together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge > >>> piece > >>>>> out, but how do I get that last one in? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks again! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > >> > >> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational > > game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3808. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: CAL Day
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 01:54:20 -0700

You solved sub-6 in competition. :-P I don't know of anyone else besides Caltech people, Chris Hardwick, and Chris Kreuger who's done it faster who's attending college in the US. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 27, 2006, at 1:44 AM, Chris Hunt wrote: > Is there someone else at PLU that I don't know about?...or is Pacific > Lutheran University's ranking created entirely because of me? :) > > -Chris > > On 4/27/06, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: >> US News Collegiate Rankings >> Blindfold Rubik's Cube Programs >> >> 1. California Institute of Technology >> 2. University of North Carolina >> 3. University of Southern California >> 4. Pacific Lutheran University >> 5. University of California Berkeley >> >> These lists were compiled based on Blindfold Rubik's Cube facilities, >> professors, and overall student happiness. >> >> Tyson Mao >> Astrophysics '06 >> California Institute of Technology >> >> On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:21 AM, Jeremy Fleischman wrote: >> >>> No problem, it was like an open house for potential freshmen. >>> So, are there any Berkeley cubers out there? And can anyone tell me >>> how to put together my 2x2x2 with an Eastsheen inside? >>> >>> Jeremy Fleischman >>> >>> skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: >>> lol I thought it was a cube thing, sorry for my confusion. >>> >>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman >>> <jeremyfleischman@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Do you mean CAL Day? It was over the weekend (Saturday, the 22nd). >>> Are you thinking about going to Berkeley? >>>> >>>> Jeremy Fleischman >>>> >>>> skeneegee <skeneegee@...> wrote: >>>> I can't believe I missed it! when was this? >>>> >>>> >>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" >>>> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How about california schools? UCs maybe =] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> We have a cube club at Rutgers. The club owns 4 stackmats & 4 >>>>>> displays. We hope to buy some puzzles in the Fall and 2 more each >>>>> of >>>>>> mats & displays. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Bob >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "morethanfourlove" >>>>>> <morethanfourlove@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Jeremy Fleischman >>>>>>> <jeremyfleischman@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any other cube clubs at any other colleges besides >>>>>>> Caltech? That may help people's decision in picking colleges..=] >>>>>>>> I just got back from Berkeley's "Cal Day', and I was very >>>>>>> impressed by how well it was run. Heck, it convinced my to go >>>>> there >>>>>>> next year! I'm very excited about the school. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My only complaint is that while I was touring the Foothill >>>>>>> Dorms, I saw three guys walk by, each with a cube in their hand. >>>>>>> However, I was unable to grab intercept them to ask some >>>>> questions. >>>>>>> I hindsight, I wish I had asked them about the cubing scene at >>>>>>> Berkeley. If I remember correctely, there were three or four guys >>>>>>> from Berkeley at the Caltech Spring competition (if you guys are >>>>> out >>>>>>> there, send me an email). Anyone who knows if Berkeley has a cube >>>>>>> club, or if there is some sort of unofficial group, please let me >>>>>>> know. Or if you're at Berkeley, or are going there next year, let >>>>> me >>>>>>> know! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>>>>>> Jeremy Fleischman >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: I'm looking to reassemble a 2x2x2 with what I believe is >>>>> the >>>>>>> Eastsheen mechanism on the inside. I can get all the way to the >>>>> last >>>>>>> corner and psuedo-edge piece, which I can't seem to get back in >>>>>>> together. I can reassemble the whole cube with one psuedo-edge >>>>> piece >>>>>>> out, but how do I get that last one in? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>>> >>>> >>>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>>> >>>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >>> Service. >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> SPONSORED LINKS >>> Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational >>> game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS >>> >>> >>> Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>> speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of >>> Service. >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3809. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:24:51 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: christopher_pelley To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!! Well I like to start it off tight to wear it in, then loosen it to my preference. It's an art, not a science :) Chris I have now worn in two of four new DIY cubes but no dust can be seen in the cubes. The plastic here must be of an other type than in the old ones. Do you have the same impression? R ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3810. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:38:23 -0000

Yes, definitely. They even make a different sound. I think the plastic must be a stronger type since they made the walls of the pieces a bit thinner. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > I have now worn in two of four new DIY cubes but no dust can be seen in the cubes. The plastic here must be of an other type than in the old ones. Do you have the same impression? > R
3811. Re: [Speed cubing group] Timer for Speedcubing
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:39:11 -0000

Was that using your 2006 DIY? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Btw, I just set a new PB on your timer! avg of 16.82, 0.01 better than my last one. > > Pedro > > cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> escreveu: > Hi all > > http://rubiks.tw/timer/ > > It was made by Taiwan cuber. Welcome to join us. > :) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3812. Solution of Rubik's World Puzzle
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:04:48 -0000

Hi, all I have some trouble for solving Rubik's World Puzzle. ( http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=589 ) Where can I get the solution of this puzzle? I'll appreciate if anyone could tell me. Thanks.
3813. Re: [Speed cubing group] Solution of Rubik's World Puzzle
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:44:41 +0200

Hello, I had never seen one of these before the German Open and I could solve in about 20-30 minutes. Here is how I proceed : 1. Solve the south pole (= 1st layer) 2. Fix the midle layer centers (make sure you won't have a tricky parity, you can fix it by looking for a center which has some blue on it, it's Africa.) 3. Solve the middle layer edges And here is the last layer, one of the most difficult part : 4. Oriente edges 5. Permute edges 6. Permute corners 7. Oriente corners But you will be easily lose track of where you are in the algorithm as you perform it. Therefore I suggest you to have a 3x3 next to you and to perform algorithms one move after the other on the cube world and the 3x3 at the same time so that you don't get lost. 8. Solve the centers (orientation - not all of them need to be fixed : some are completely black but some of them are not :p) Good luck ! Gilles. 2006/4/27, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...>: > Hi, all > I have some trouble for solving Rubik's World Puzzle. > ( http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=589 ) > Where can I get the solution of this puzzle? > I'll appreciate if anyone could tell me. > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3814. Re: Timer for Speedcubing
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:36:34 -0000

We add a column of country in rank list. It is clearly to show the cubers come from http://rubiks.tw/timer/index.php?action=ranklist --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...> wrote: > > Hi all > > http://rubiks.tw/timer/ > > It was made by Taiwan cuber. Welcome to join us. > :) >
3815. Re: [Speed cubing group] Timer for Speedcubing
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:16:59 -0300 (ART)

Yes, it was...but the cube says M1005B...so I guess it was made last year Pedro christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> escreveu: Was that using your 2006 DIY? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Pedro <pedrosino1@...> wrote: > > Btw, I just set a new PB on your timer! avg of 16.82, 0.01 better than my last one. > > Pedro > > cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...> escreveu: > Hi all > > http://rubiks.tw/timer/ > > It was made by Taiwan cuber. Welcome to join us. > :) > > > > > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3816. Re: [Speed cubing group] Solution of Rubik's World Puzzle
From: "cwlin1010" <cubepuzzle@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:22:28 -0000

Hi, Gilles I had solved it successfully. Thank you. :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Hello, > > I had never seen one of these before the German Open and I could solve > in about 20-30 minutes. > > Here is how I proceed : > 1. Solve the south pole (= 1st layer) > 2. Fix the midle layer centers (make sure you won't have a tricky > parity, you can fix it by looking for a center which has some blue on > it, it's Africa.) > 3. Solve the middle layer edges > > And here is the last layer, one of the most difficult part : > 4. Oriente edges > 5. Permute edges > 6. Permute corners > 7. Oriente corners > > But you will be easily lose track of where you are in the algorithm as > you perform it. Therefore I suggest you to have a 3x3 next to you and > to perform algorithms one move after the other on the cube world and > the 3x3 at the same time so that you don't get lost. > > 8. Solve the centers (orientation - not all of them need to be fixed : > some are completely black but some of them are not :p) > > Good luck ! > Gilles. > > 2006/4/27, cwlin1010 <cubepuzzle@...>: > > Hi, all > > I have some trouble for solving Rubik's World Puzzle. > > ( http://twistypuzzles.com/cgi-bin/puzzle.cgi?pid=589 ) > > Where can I get the solution of this puzzle? > > I'll appreciate if anyone could tell me. > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3817. OT: Math Songs
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:27:04 -0000

Hey guys, I hope you don't mind my making a bit off topic post real quick. I stumbled across some rather catchy math songs and thought I'd send them along for 2 reasons: 1. A bunch of us math nerds on here will probably like them. 2. If *anyone* would know where to get better copies of these it would be you guys (specifically the derivative song and the delta-epsilon song). Without further ado: http://www.haverford.edu/physics-astro/songs/lehrer/physrev.htm Again, if you guys know where to get better ones, I'd appreciate it! Enjoy! Daniel
3818. Belgian Open - registering closes by the end of the week-end
From: "gillesvdp" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 06:35:50 -0000

Hello guys, I just wanted to let you know that the registration for the Belgian Open (6 May in Brussels) will close on monday. So for those of you who haven't register yet, please do so (if you intend to come of course :p) For the moment we have 18 competitors (+ guests). So this is more like a small and friendly championship. If you have any question, feel free to ask. Belgian Open website : http://www.belgiancubes.be/belgianopen2006/ See you there ! Gilles.
3819. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:39:48 -0000

Do the rubiks.com DIY's have screws?
3820. My New Method
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 16:31:28 -0000

As of only a couple days ago, I was imagining up a method that requires 338 algorithms and is potentially just as fast as ZB and has easier case recognition. Unfortunately, my mind can't store so many algorithms, so I reduced the work into six steps instead of five. It combines Petrus (2x2x3), Duncan Dicks (place m-edges doing something to the LL), and Razoux-Schultz (ELL). Here goes: Intuitive let's say in 3tps, algorithms 3.5tps. Step 1: 2x2x2 5.5 moves, 1.8sec Step 2: 2x2x3 6.5 moves, 2.2sec Step 3: Finish First Layer 8-9 moves, 2.7-3sec <--- needs work Step 4: Insert Middle Edge, Orienting Corners 8.5 moves, 2.4sec, 27 algorithms Step 5: Insert Middle Edge, Permuting Corners 10.5 moves, 3sec, 7 algorithms (not 8 :D, since FUFUFU'F'U'F' is in both Step 4 and 5) Step 6: Edges of Last Layer 11.2 moves, 3.2sec, 19 algorithms 52-53 moves 15.9-16.2sec, 53 algorithms Reasons for making this: -I like the ideas on L2L4, but can't do step 4 permuting edges -I like intuition, just not the Fridrich style -My Fridrich F2L is horrible -My Fridrich LL is horrible -My first layer on L2L4 is horrible -My steps 4-7 on Petrus is horrible -My case recognition on CLL is horrible Any ways to make it faster? Tim
3821. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 17:09:12 -0000

Yes, although sometimes (in the past) they have additionally included rivets. Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Do the rubiks.com DIY's have screws? >
3822. Re: My New Method
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 06:25:26 -0000

Update with algorithms: Step 4 notation: 0: no twist 1: - twist 2: + twist Cx: make a clockwise turn on the x-face. 012 is...: x 1 2 0 000 F U F U F U' F' U' F' 001 F' L R' F' L' F R F 002 U R U R' U' F' U' F 010 CD F R2 U R U' R2 F' 020 F U F U F U' F' R U' R' F' 100 CR U' R' U L U L' U' R U 200 CD L F U L F L' U' F' L' 011 U R U' R' F R' F' R 012 U R U' R' U' F' U F 021 U F' R' U' R F R' U R 022 F' U' F U' F' L' U' L U2 F 101 U F R' F' R F' U' F 102 F' R' F U' F' U R F 201 F R F' U' F' U F R' 202 L R' D' F D L' F R F' 110 F U' L F L' F' U' F U2 F' 120 F U2 L F L' U2 F' 210 U' L F U L F2 L' U' F' L' 220 L U D F' U' F D' L' 111 F D' R' D F' D' R D 112 U R U' R' F R' F L F L' F R 121 F' L R' F' L' F R U' L' U L F 122 L F' R' F' R F L' U R U R' 211 F' U F U F' U F U' F' U' F 212 U F R' F' R F U F U F' U F 221 CU U' F L U' R U L' U R' U' F' 222 U B' U' B L2 D F D' L2 These haven't been optimized for finger tricks yet. Step 5 notation: 2 is the URB corner 3 is the ULF corner 4 is the URF corner 234 looks like: x 2 3 4 234: F U F U F U' F' U' F' (Step 4's 000) 243: U' F' U' F U R U' R' U2 F' U' F 432: R U' R' U2 F' U' F U R U' R' 324: CD CB F R U R' F' U2 R U' L' U R' U2 CF CU 342: U F' U' F' L F' R2 F L' F' R2 F' 423: U R U' R' U2 R U' R' U' F R' F' R (Eh, longer than 10.5 moves, and actually 5 algorithms) Step 6 is on Bernard Helmstetter's lists. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > As of only a couple days ago, I was imagining up a method that > requires 338 algorithms and is potentially just as fast as ZB and has > easier case recognition. Unfortunately, my mind can't store so many > algorithms, so I reduced the work into six steps instead of five. It > combines Petrus (2x2x3), Duncan Dicks (place m-edges doing something > to the LL), and Razoux-Schultz (ELL). Here goes: > > Intuitive let's say in 3tps, algorithms 3.5tps. > > Step 1: 2x2x2 > 5.5 moves, 1.8sec > > Step 2: 2x2x3 > 6.5 moves, 2.2sec > > Step 3: Finish First Layer > 8-9 moves, 2.7-3sec <--- needs work > > Step 4: Insert Middle Edge, Orienting Corners > 8.5 moves, 2.4sec, 27 algorithms > > Step 5: Insert Middle Edge, Permuting Corners > 10.5 moves, 3sec, 7 algorithms (not 8 :D, since FUFUFU'F'U'F' is in > both Step 4 and 5) > > Step 6: Edges of Last Layer > 11.2 moves, 3.2sec, 19 algorithms > > 52-53 moves 15.9-16.2sec, 53 algorithms > > Reasons for making this: > -I like the ideas on L2L4, but can't do step 4 permuting edges > -I like intuition, just not the Fridrich style > -My Fridrich F2L is horrible > -My Fridrich LL is horrible > -My first layer on L2L4 is horrible > -My steps 4-7 on Petrus is horrible > -My case recognition on CLL is horrible > > Any ways to make it faster? > > Tim >
3823. Rubik's Solver 2x2x2 to 8x8x8 and Megaminx Solver on Ebay
From: "hua_jz" <hua_jz@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:37:19 -0000

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Rubiks-Cube-and-Twisty-Puzzle
3824. Re: [Speed cubing group] Belgian Open - registering closes by the end of the week-end
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:03:14 +0200

Here is a little update for you competitors : We now have prizes to be divided among winners of categories : 3x3 : Cup Other categories : Special Medal I thought you would be interested :p See you soon ! Gilles 2006/4/28, gillesvdp <gillesvdp@...>: > Hello guys, > > I just wanted to let you know that the registration for the Belgian > Open (6 May in Brussels) will close on monday. > So for those of you who haven't register yet, please do so (if you > intend to come of course :p) > > For the moment we have 18 competitors (+ guests). So this is more like > a small and friendly championship. If you have any question, feel free > to ask. > > Belgian Open website : http://www.belgiancubes.be/belgianopen2006/ > > See you there ! > Gilles. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3825. RE: [Speed cubing group] Re: My New Method
From: "James Stuber" <jestuber@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:52:50 -0700

What would the 5 step method be? -James Stuber _____ From: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Sun Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:25 PM To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: My New Method Update with algorithms: Step 4 notation: 0: no twist 1: - twist 2: + twist Cx: make a clockwise turn on the x-face. 012 is...: x 1 2 0 000 F U F U F U' F' U' F' 001 F' L R' F' L' F R F 002 U R U R' U' F' U' F 010 CD F R2 U R U' R2 F' 020 F U F U F U' F' R U' R' F' 100 CR U' R' U L U L' U' R U 200 CD L F U L F L' U' F' L' 011 U R U' R' F R' F' R 012 U R U' R' U' F' U F 021 U F' R' U' R F R' U R 022 F' U' F U' F' L' U' L U2 F 101 U F R' F' R F' U' F 102 F' R' F U' F' U R F 201 F R F' U' F' U F R' 202 L R' D' F D L' F R F' 110 F U' L F L' F' U' F U2 F' 120 F U2 L F L' U2 F' 210 U' L F U L F2 L' U' F' L' 220 L U D F' U' F D' L' 111 F D' R' D F' D' R D 112 U R U' R' F R' F L F L' F R 121 F' L R' F' L' F R U' L' U L F 122 L F' R' F' R F L' U R U R' 211 F' U F U F' U F U' F' U' F 212 U F R' F' R F U F U F' U F 221 CU U' F L U' R U L' U R' U' F' 222 U B' U' B L2 D F D' L2 These haven't been optimized for finger tricks yet. Step 5 notation: 2 is the URB corner 3 is the ULF corner 4 is the URF corner 234 looks like: x 2 3 4 234: F U F U F U' F' U' F' (Step 4's 000) 243: U' F' U' F U R U' R' U2 F' U' F 432: R U' R' U2 F' U' F U R U' R' 324: CD CB F R U R' F' U2 R U' L' U R' U2 CF CU 342: U F' U' F' L F' R2 F L' F' R2 F' 423: U R U' R' U2 R U' R' U' F R' F' R (Eh, longer than 10.5 moves, and actually 5 algorithms) Step 6 is on Bernard Helmstetter's lists. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > As of only a couple days ago, I was imagining up a method that > requires 338 algorithms and is potentially just as fast as ZB and has > easier case recognition. Unfortunately, my mind can't store so many > algorithms, so I reduced the work into six steps instead of five. It > combines Petrus (2x2x3), Duncan Dicks (place m-edges doing something > to the LL), and Razoux-Schultz (ELL). Here goes: > > Intuitive let's say in 3tps, algorithms 3.5tps. > > Step 1: 2x2x2 > 5.5 moves, 1.8sec > > Step 2: 2x2x3 > 6.5 moves, 2.2sec > > Step 3: Finish First Layer > 8-9 moves, 2.7-3sec <--- needs work > > Step 4: Insert Middle Edge, Orienting Corners > 8.5 moves, 2.4sec, 27 algorithms > > Step 5: Insert Middle Edge, Permuting Corners > 10.5 moves, 3sec, 7 algorithms (not 8 :D, since FUFUFU'F'U'F' is in > both Step 4 and 5) > > Step 6: Edges of Last Layer > 11.2 moves, 3.2sec, 19 algorithms > > 52-53 moves 15.9-16.2sec, 53 algorithms > > Reasons for making this: > -I like the ideas on L2L4, but can't do step 4 permuting edges > -I like intuition, just not the Fridrich style > -My Fridrich F2L is horrible > -My Fridrich LL is horrible > -My first layer on L2L4 is horrible > -My steps 4-7 on Petrus is horrible > -My case recognition on CLL is horrible > > Any ways to make it faster? > > Tim > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+gam e&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+g ame&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > puzzle game Free <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzl e+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puz zle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6 ReWEw> puzzle inlay games Educational <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+p uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word +puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=37T2K_4zOte4R 94IVKMFNQ> game and puzzle Word <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game& w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+gam e&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> puzzle game Kid <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w 2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game &w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2-DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> puzzle game Puzzle <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=F ree+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+game&w5 =Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> games _____ YAHOO! 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3826. [Speed cubing group] Re: My New Method
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:54:57 -0000

I was thinking of combining 1-3 into one step, but it seems like it's too much. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "James Stuber" <jestuber@...> wrote: > > What would the 5 step method be? > > > > -James Stuber > > > > _____ > > From: speedsolvingrubikscube@...m > [mailto:speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Timothy Sun > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:25 PM > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: My New Method > > > > Update with algorithms: > > Step 4 notation: > > 0: no twist > 1: - twist > 2: + twist > Cx: make a clockwise turn on the x-face. > > 012 is...: > > x 1 > > 2 0 > > > 000 F U F U F U' F' U' F' > 001 F' L R' F' L' F R F > 002 U R U R' U' F' U' F > 010 CD F R2 U R U' R2 F' > 020 F U F U F U' F' R U' R' F' > 100 CR U' R' U L U L' U' R U > 200 CD L F U L F L' U' F' L' > 011 U R U' R' F R' F' R > 012 U R U' R' U' F' U F > 021 U F' R' U' R F R' U R > 022 F' U' F U' F' L' U' L U2 F > 101 U F R' F' R F' U' F > 102 F' R' F U' F' U R F > 201 F R F' U' F' U F R' > 202 L R' D' F D L' F R F' > 110 F U' L F L' F' U' F U2 F' > 120 F U2 L F L' U2 F' > 210 U' L F U L F2 L' U' F' L' > 220 L U D F' U' F D' L' > 111 F D' R' D F' D' R D > 112 U R U' R' F R' F L F L' F R > 121 F' L R' F' L' F R U' L' U L F > 122 L F' R' F' R F L' U R U R' > 211 F' U F U F' U F U' F' U' F > 212 U F R' F' R F U F U F' U F > 221 CU U' F L U' R U L' U R' U' F' > 222 U B' U' B L2 D F D' L2 > > These haven't been optimized for finger tricks yet. > > Step 5 notation: > > 2 is the URB corner > 3 is the ULF corner > 4 is the URF corner > > 234 looks like: > > x 2 > > 3 4 > > 234: F U F U F U' F' U' F' (Step 4's 000) > 243: U' F' U' F U R U' R' U2 F' U' F > 432: R U' R' U2 F' U' F U R U' R' > 324: CD CB F R U R' F' U2 R U' L' U R' U2 CF CU > 342: U F' U' F' L F' R2 F L' F' R2 F' > 423: U R U' R' U2 R U' R' U' F R' F' R > (Eh, longer than 10.5 moves, and actually 5 algorithms) > > > Step 6 is on Bernard Helmstetter's lists. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" > <linkpoke@> wrote: > > > > As of only a couple days ago, I was imagining up a method that > > requires 338 algorithms and is potentially just as fast as ZB and > has > > easier case recognition. Unfortunately, my mind can't store so many > > algorithms, so I reduced the work into six steps instead of five. It > > combines Petrus (2x2x3), Duncan Dicks (place m-edges doing something > > to the LL), and Razoux-Schultz (ELL). Here goes: > > > > Intuitive let's say in 3tps, algorithms 3.5tps. > > > > Step 1: 2x2x2 > > 5.5 moves, 1.8sec > > > > Step 2: 2x2x3 > > 6.5 moves, 2.2sec > > > > Step 3: Finish First Layer > > 8-9 moves, 2.7-3sec <--- needs work > > > > Step 4: Insert Middle Edge, Orienting Corners > > 8.5 moves, 2.4sec, 27 algorithms > > > > Step 5: Insert Middle Edge, Permuting Corners > > 10.5 moves, 3sec, 7 algorithms (not 8 :D, since FUFUFU'F'U'F' is in > > both Step 4 and 5) > > > > Step 6: Edges of Last Layer > > 11.2 moves, 3.2sec, 19 algorithms > > > > 52-53 moves 15.9-16.2sec, 53 algorithms > > > > Reasons for making this: > > -I like the ideas on L2L4, but can't do step 4 permuting edges > > -I like intuition, just not the Fridrich style > > -My Fridrich F2L is horrible > > -My Fridrich LL is horrible > > -My first layer on L2L4 is horrible > > -My steps 4-7 on Petrus is horrible > > -My case recognition on CLL is horrible > > > > Any ways to make it faster? > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > > Jigsaw > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+gam > e&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+pu zzle+g > ame&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&. sig=irjrM9wdJDBnytECiSfUCw > > puzzle game > > Free > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzl > e+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Wo rd+puz > zle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&. sig=5IEF0wvHk31uvuXI6 > ReWEw> puzzle inlay games > > Educational > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w1=Jigsaw+p > uzzle+game&w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w 4=Word > +puzzle+game&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&. sig=37T2K_4zOte4R > 94IVKMFNQ> game and puzzle > > > Word > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Word+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game& > w2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzz le+gam > e&w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&. sig=3DsIilZKH4dSS_WgIx9QRg> > puzzle game > > Kid > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Kid+puzzle+game&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w > 2=Free+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzl e+game > &w5=Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&.sig=2- DgzSlkRkTyIak1hdhkgQ> > puzzle game > > Puzzle > <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=ms&k=Puzzle+games&w1=Jigsaw+puzzle+game&w2=F > ree+puzzle+inlay+games&w3=Educational+game+and+puzzle&w4=Word+puzzle+g ame&w5 > =Kid+puzzle+game&w6=Puzzle+games&c=6&s=147&. sig=EJHY58oeC85Up2uB7KhBMA> > games > > > > _____ > > YAHOO! 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3827. Rutgers Spring 2006
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 23:55:05 -0000

I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of fun. Bob was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another great competition. It was great to see some of the new england cubers again. I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! Peter Greenwood
3828. how many algorithms do you know?
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:32:11 -0700 (PDT)

I know a 3LLL, which is 31 algs.. plus, when I was learning fridrich F2L, there were a few cases which I just memorized since they were difficult/annoying.. So there are around 35 algs that I know and actively use (i still remember some from my old beginner method but dont use them) I was just curious about how many some of you guys know, especially b/c I was looking at some algs today and I saw that some of the websites of the cubing gods recommend memorizing more than one algorithm for different cases (like in PLL) to minimize AUF (and this seems ridiculous to me, but I guess once you get the fast, it can help). And I know that a lot of you guys have more than one method for solving. just wondering David --------------------------------- How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3829. Re: how many algorithms do you know?
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 00:44:40 -0000

I actually know very few algs. I know 21 for roux, 5 for BLD solving, and a few misc algs that I rarely use. My best 3x3 avg is 25.16, and my best BLD time is 5:41. Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts <ladartfrog@...> wrote: > > I know a 3LLL, which is 31 algs.. plus, when I was learning fridrich F2L, there were a few cases which I just memorized since they were difficult/annoying.. > > So there are around 35 algs that I know and actively use (i still remember some from my old beginner method but dont use them) > > I was just curious about how many some of you guys know, especially b/c I was looking at some algs today and I saw that some of the websites of the cubing gods recommend memorizing more than one algorithm for different cases (like in PLL) to minimize AUF (and this seems ridiculous to me, but I guess once you get the fast, it can help). > > And I know that a lot of you guys have more than one method for solving. > > just wondering > > David > > > --------------------------------- > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3830. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Ian" <iwinoky@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 01:35:07 -0000

I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast crew again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in just about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic event (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my times have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going to take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get back into cubing in 2010! Take it easy, guys. Ian --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of fun. Bob > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another great > competition. It was great to see some of the new england cubers again. > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > Peter Greenwood >
3831. Re: how many algorithms do you know?
From: broncoviper <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:06:30 -0000

I know around 60, that is use all the time. And that is barely a touch on the ones I need to know. I have a few left on the f2l I need to know, I only have maybe 5-6 of the OLL (out of 57 I need to know), and I have like 5-7 PLL algs out of 13 or so. I also learned a few simple algs for the 4x4 and 5x5. Right now I average 35-40 seconds. My PLL is by far the slowest time, as my f2l is around 20-25 seconds and that includes a 4-7 second cross on average :(. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I actually know very few algs. I know 21 for roux, 5 for BLD solving, > and a few misc algs that I rarely use. My best 3x3 avg is 25.16, and > my best BLD time is 5:41. > > Peter Greenwood > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, David Pritts > <ladartfrog@> wrote: > > > > I know a 3LLL, which is 31 algs.. plus, when I was learning fridrich > F2L, there were a few cases which I just memorized since they were > difficult/annoying.. > > > > So there are around 35 algs that I know and actively use (i still > remember some from my old beginner method but dont use them) > > > > I was just curious about how many some of you guys know, > especially b/c I was looking at some algs today and I saw that some of > the websites of the cubing gods recommend memorizing more than one > algorithm for different cases (like in PLL) to minimize AUF (and this > seems ridiculous to me, but I guess once you get the fast, it can help). > > > > And I know that a lot of you guys have more than one method for > solving. > > > > just wondering > > > > David > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone > call rates. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3832. computer cubes..
From: "Joe Allen" <wallen@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 05:22:19 -0000

I don't post very often in here...but i'm pretty excited about what I solved today. I sat down at 1:00, and finished a 40x40x40 at about 9:10 (8hrs 10min 59sec). I took about 20min worth of breaks during. See www.puzzlingaddiction.com Doing this really makes me appreciate the stamina someone must have to attempt a 24hr cube marathon. or an 8hr marathon, for that matter (didn't Lars V. do one sometime back?) crazy. my brain is still scrambled.
3833. about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: "Emanuele" <bw.project@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:30:51 -0000

Hi everyone! I'm just wondering: when you scramble the cube for the sunday contest do you ALWAYS keep the same faces as U, F and R, or do you just execute the given scramble no matter which face is U, F and R? In this case the scrambled cube wouldn't be identical for all competitors. Am I right?
3834. Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:49:28 -0000

Well, it doesn't really matter, since some people are color neutral (Petrus, for example), but I think it's more important that it's random than uniform throughout the cubes. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Emanuele" <bw. project@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone! > I'm just wondering: when you scramble the cube for the sunday contest > do you ALWAYS keep the same faces as U, F and R, or do you just > execute the given scramble no matter which face is U, F and R? > In this case the scrambled cube wouldn't be identical for all > competitors. Am I right? >
3835. Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: sgowal <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:38:01 -0000

As long as you are consistent with your scrambles, that's fine. As for myself, I use the WCA regulations on scrambles: "4d) Cubes are generally scrambled with the white (or the lightest colour) face on top and green (or blue or the darkest face) on the front." Sven --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...> wrote: > > Well, it doesn't really matter, since some people are color neutral > (Petrus, for example), but I think it's more important that it's > random than uniform throughout the cubes. > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Emanuele" <bw. > project@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone! > > I'm just wondering: when you scramble the cube for the sunday > contest > > do you ALWAYS keep the same faces as U, F and R, or do you just > > execute the given scramble no matter which face is U, F and R? > > In this case the scrambled cube wouldn't be identical for all > > competitors. Am I right? > > >
3836. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:15:30 -0000

Hey All, I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and Anthony Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event almost :p Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we need to talk... Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 Master Magic - 3.09 Master Magic Average - 4.32 Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I dunno if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 the attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw it...humph...anyways... I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the only person that can say they were in every single round of the competition :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't over... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@...> wrote: > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast crew > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in just > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic event > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my times > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going to > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get back into > cubing in 2010! > > Take it easy, guys. > > Ian > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of fun. Bob > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another great > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england cubers again. > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > Peter Greenwood > > >
3837. Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:15:57 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Emanuele" <bw.project@...> wrote: > > Hi everyone! > I'm just wondering: when you scramble the cube for the sunday contest > do you ALWAYS keep the same faces as U, F and R, or do you just > execute the given scramble no matter which face is U, F and R? > In this case the scrambled cube wouldn't be identical for all > competitors. Am I right? > Random orientation, throwing the cube in the air. When you make a video, it (almost) proves you can't cheat. Given that all competitors do not have the same color scheme, scrambles can't be identical. (yeah, that's a problem) Gilles.
3838. Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: "Emanuele" <bw.project@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:36:27 -0000

Yeah, throwing the cube in the air is undoubtedly good when making a video, but I think it's a good thing to follow WCA regulations, I mean, just like in a real contest, where every cube is scrambled by the same person (or with the same techniques) for every competitor. Up to now I applied a given scramble randomly, because I didn't know, but from now on I think I'll follow this simple rule ;) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Emanuele" > <bw.project@> wrote: > > > > Hi everyone! > > I'm just wondering: when you scramble the cube for the sunday contest > > do you ALWAYS keep the same faces as U, F and R, or do you just > > execute the given scramble no matter which face is U, F and R? > > In this case the scrambled cube wouldn't be identical for all > > competitors. Am I right? > > > > Random orientation, throwing the cube in the air. When you make a > video, it (almost) proves you can't cheat. > Given that all competitors do not have the same color scheme, > scrambles can't be identical. (yeah, that's a problem) > > Gilles. >
3839. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 14:38:34 -0000

You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I know why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for me ;) I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a pop that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the corner in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me forever to notice that red was next to orange. My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube down. It was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. Can't wait for May 27! Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Hey All, > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and Anthony > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event almost :p > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we > need to talk... > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > Master Magic - 3.09 > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I dunno > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 the > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > it...humph...anyways... > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the only > person that can say they were in every single round of the competition > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't over... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> wrote: > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast crew > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in just > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic event > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my times > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going to > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get back into > > cubing in 2010! > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > Ian > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of fun. Bob > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another great > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england cubers again. > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > >
3840. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:16:41 -0000

I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I showed you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I know > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for me ;) > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a pop > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the corner > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me forever > to notice that red was next to orange. > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube down. It > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > Can't wait for May 27! > Tim > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > Hey All, > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and Anthony > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > almost :p > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we > > need to talk... > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > dunno > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 > the > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the only > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > competition > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't > over... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > wrote: > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > crew > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in > just > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic > event > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > times > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going > to > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > back into > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of > fun. Bob > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > great > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > cubers again. > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > >
3841. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:32:32 -0000

yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to think... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I showed > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > Peter Greenwood > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I know > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for me ;) > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a pop > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the corner > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me forever > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube down. It > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > Can't wait for May 27! > > Tim > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and Anthony > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > almost :p > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we > > > need to talk... > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > dunno > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 > > the > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the only > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > competition > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't > > over... > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > crew > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in > > just > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic > > event > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > times > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going > > to > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > back into > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of > > fun. Bob > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > great > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > cubers again. > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3842. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:46:44 -0000

I just checked, it was ur 3rd solve, and it gets dropped anyways :p But yah, 0s can be mistaken for 6s easy :p --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I showed > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > Peter Greenwood > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I know > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for me ;) > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a pop > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the corner > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me forever > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube down. It > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > Can't wait for May 27! > > Tim > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and Anthony > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > almost :p > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we > > > need to talk... > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > dunno > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 > > the > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the only > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > competition > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't > > over... > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > crew > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in > > just > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic > > event > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > times > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going > > to > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > back into > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of > > fun. Bob > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > great > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > cubers again. > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3843. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 15:54:58 -0000

I've had a few people ask me similar questions so I'm making a FAQ :p Q: What Happened on the 98.35? A: I was doing a good solve, about to be 20.xx, doing the A perm when 3-4 pieces flew outta my cube, so I found them on the ground, shoved them back in (didn't know how, so I just stuck them in randomly) and so I had to redo almost the whole solve, so by now it is about 35-40 and I'm restarting the solve, and I get to OLL and see that an edge is flipped, so I orient my edges, then I go to orient my corners, and they are wrongly put it, so I have to fix those, then I go to PLL, and theres a 3 edge cycle with a 2 corner cycle, so I have to pull out some pieces, put them back in, and do the F perm...and then bam I'm done :) Q: Why did all your BLD solves DNF? A: I am slowly moving over into a more advanced version that Pochmann and I are making, and I use 1 alg so far, cuz its quite good...it is: x' R2 U' R' U l' F' U' F R U R' U', I was doing it as: x' R U' R' U l' F' U' F R U R' U', so it didn't work...you can figure out why the one didn't work :) and it screws everything up...and I had that in all 3 solves, weirdly enuff... Any more questions??? Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > I just checked, it was ur 3rd solve, and it gets dropped anyways :p > But yah, 0s can be mistaken for 6s easy :p > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I showed > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > > > Peter Greenwood
3844. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:13:38 -0700

Does anyone think that results from any competitions would be different if each competitor was just gives an individual random mix? I certainly don't. It's cute that we do this, and it's for some reason really important to people who know nothing about cubing. But it's just a gimmick, nothing more. - - - - - - - - - - - - Curiosity was framed; ignorance killed the cat. Lars Petrus - lars@... http://lar5.com
3845. [Speed cubing group] Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:30:05 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> wrote: > > Does anyone think that results from any competitions would be > different if each competitor was just gives an individual random mix? > I certainly don't. I like the idea of giving every competitor the same cubes, the very same color configurations. But it's impossible with different color schemes. I share your opinion. Averages only make results fair, we all know this. Gilles.
3846. 36 year old cube..
From: "Jonas Andersson" <yasheeve@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:12:24 -0000

intresting. Feels like a "back to the future"-thing :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6054689746
3847. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:17:21 -0700

In blindfolding, it starts to matter a lot more, and I think this applies to all methods out there. The reason is because the permutation length is color neutral. So, someone who gets an 8-cycle + 12-cycle will definitely have a harder time than someone getting a 5 + 2 and a 6. We can't really have different standards for solving the cube that are dependent on method, so if it matters a little, it should be there. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 30, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Gilles Roux wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> > wrote: >> >> Does anyone think that results from any competitions would be >> different if each competitor was just gives an individual random mix? >> I certainly don't. > > I like the idea of giving every competitor the same cubes, the very > same color configurations. But it's impossible with different color > schemes. > > I share your opinion. Averages only make results fair, we all know > this. > > Gilles. > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3848. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: about the scrambles of the sunday contest
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:33:42 -0700

Actually, now that I think about it, I think it completely matters in blindfolding. In speed solving, unless you're grotesquely obvious, there probably isn't an advantage you can give me so that I could beat Macky. (Even if I started with a cross every time... though I feel that would be grotesquely obvious.) I'm pretty sure if we took 6 random scrambles, and I get to pick three based on the "parameters of the solve" (in other words, they tell me the size of the cycles), and Leyan has to solve the other three, I would win in a blindfold competition. On the other hand, if he gets to choose, he would win. Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On Apr 30, 2006, at 10:17 AM, Tyson Mao wrote: > In blindfolding, it starts to matter a lot more, and I think this > applies to all methods out there. The reason is because the > permutation length is color neutral. So, someone who gets an 8-cycle + > 12-cycle will definitely have a harder time than someone getting a 5 + > 2 and a 6. > > We can't really have different standards for solving the cube that are > dependent on method, so if it matters a little, it should be there. > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On Apr 30, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Gilles Roux wrote: > >> --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Lars Petrus <lars@...> >> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone think that results from any competitions would be >>> different if each competitor was just gives an individual random mix? >>> I certainly don't. >> >> I like the idea of giving every competitor the same cubes, the very >> same color configurations. But it's impossible with different color >> schemes. >> >> I share your opinion. Averages only make results fair, we all know >> this. >> >> Gilles. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3849. Re: 36 year old cube..
From: leftoverlinguine <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 18:23:41 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Jonas Andersson" <yasheeve@...> wrote: > > intresting. > > Feels like a "back to the future"-thing :) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6054689746 > Until just recently I was using my mom's cube from the early '80s, but had to get a new one because it kept poopping like 2+ times per solve.
3850. 36 year old cube..
From: "Jonas Andersson" <yasheeve@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 19:45:28 -0000

intresting. Feels like a "back to the future"-thing :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6054689746
3851. Cube Art - may be off topic here
From: h_kociemba <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:22:45 -0000

Next time I go to Paris I will have a look at this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205994/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205995/in/set-124207/ H. Kociemba
3852. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube Art - may be off topic here
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 22:53:07 +0200

Has mr Roux missed this? ----- Original Message ----- From: h_kociemba To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Cube Art - may be off topic here Next time I go to Paris I will have a look at this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205994/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205995/in/set-124207/ H. Kociemba SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3853. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:53:36 -0000

What? It was a shock when I looked at the photograph!!! "Passage de la Bonne Graine", that's where I live!!! The proof? I just went in the street with my camera, the cubes are only 100m away from my flat :-) http://grrroux.free.fr/bonnegraine.jpg Gilles (who just entered the twilight zone) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, h_kociemba <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Next time I go to Paris I will have a look at this: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205994/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205995/in/set-124207/ > > > H. Kociemba >
3854. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:00:07 -0000

http://grrroux.free.fr/adr.bmp ...#?!#... Is it a joke? A riddle? There are 2000 streets in Paris. They choosed mine, one of the smallest. ...?!#!!... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > What? It was a shock when I looked at the photograph!!! > "Passage de la Bonne Graine", that's where I live!!! > > The proof? I just went in the street with my camera, the cubes are > only 100m away from my flat :-) > > http://grrroux.free.fr/bonnegraine.jpg > > > Gilles (who just entered the twilight zone) > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, h_kociemba > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Next time I go to Paris I will have a look at this: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205994/ > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205995/in/set-124207/ > > > > > > H. Kociemba > > >
3855. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:22:13 -0000

We have those invader things all over manchester... ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > http://grrroux.free.fr/adr.bmp > > ...#?!#... > > Is it a joke? A riddle? > There are 2000 streets in Paris. > They choosed mine, one of the smallest. > > ...?!#!!... > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@> wrote: > > > > > > What? It was a shock when I looked at the photograph!!! > > "Passage de la Bonne Graine", that's where I live!!! > > > > The proof? I just went in the street with my camera, the cubes are > > only 100m away from my flat :-) > > > > http://grrroux.free.fr/bonnegraine.jpg > > > > > > Gilles (who just entered the twilight zone) > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, h_kociemba > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Next time I go to Paris I will have a look at this: > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205994/ > > > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteorry/61205995/in/set-124207/ > > > > > > > > > H. Kociemba > > > > > >
3856. 4x4 reassemble
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:37:08 -0000

I took apart my Rubiks 4x4 to lube it and i am not sure how to reassemble it. Can anyone explain how to do so or direct me to a site that explains it. Thanks
3857. Re: 4x4 reassemble
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 00:22:17 -0000

I am actually right now working on my 4x4 reassembly site. I will be sure to link everyone when it is ready. For now, you can join the chat room. It is #rubik on irc.ircstorm.net 6667, or here: http://www.strangepuzzle.com/chat.php My nick is pjgat09, feel free to ask me. Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...> wrote: > > I took apart my Rubiks 4x4 to lube it and i am not sure how to > reassemble it. Can anyone explain how to do so or direct me to a site > that explains it. > > Thanks >
3858. Re: 4x4 reassemble
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 02:22:34 -0000

Look around in the "photos" section on the left. There's a 4x4 assembly folder. Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I am actually right now working on my 4x4 reassembly site. I will be > sure to link everyone when it is ready. For now, you can join the chat > room. It is #rubik on irc.ircstorm.net 6667, or here: > http://www.strangepuzzle.com/chat.php > My nick is pjgat09, feel free to ask me. > > Peter Greenwood > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > I took apart my Rubiks 4x4 to lube it and i am not sure how to > > reassemble it. Can anyone explain how to do so or direct me to a site > > that explains it. > > > > Thanks > > >
3859. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Bruce Norskog" <brnorsk@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:26:41 -0000

As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality setting aimed at handheld devices. Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ seconds). 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my camera to take videos of me. - Bruce Norskog --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to think... > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I showed > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I know > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for me ;) > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a pop > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the corner > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me forever > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube down. It > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > Tim > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and Anthony > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > almost :p > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > > dunno > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 > > > the > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the only > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > competition > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't > > > over... > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > > crew > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in > > > just > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic > > > event > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > > times > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going > > > to > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > > back into > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > > great > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > cubers again. > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3860. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:47:16 -0000

You're welcome. Thank you to all who came, judged, scrambled, competed, helped out, and watched. I think the tournament was a great success and it was great to meet some new cubers. :) How about strangepuzzle.com for the videos? ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" <brnorsk@...> wrote: > > As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at > Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and > converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded > the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get > much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality > setting aimed at handheld devices. > > Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so > I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The > following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or > around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. > > 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ > seconds). > 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. > 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. > 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. > 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve > > I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. > > I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to > make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my > camera to take videos of me. > > - Bruce Norskog > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to think... > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I showed > > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I know > > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for me ;) > > > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a pop > > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the corner > > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me forever > > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube down. It > > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't get the > > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and > Anthony > > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > > almost :p > > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD attempts...Stefan, we > > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > > > dunno > > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a 1.12 > > > > the > > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the > only > > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > > competition > > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this isn't > > > > over... > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > > > crew > > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and 2nd in > > > > just > > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the Magic > > > > event > > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > > > times > > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm going > > > > to > > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > > > back into > > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a lot of > > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > > > great > > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > > cubers again. > > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3861. Lube
From: "mhsablotny" <mhsablotny@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 06:34:28 -0000

I know its probably been asked before, but what is a good lubricant to use for speedcubing? I tried both the rubiks.com cube lube and a silicone based car tire wax, and both didn't really seem to loosen my cube up much. Any suggestions as to how i can get my cube to be a little quicker?
3862. Re: [Speed cubing group] Lube
From: "Chris Hunt" <huntca@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:38:33 -0700

This works great for me, and one bottle lasts forever: http://www.castleproductsonline.com/silicone_lubricant.html -Chris On 4/30/06, mhsablotny <mhsablotny@...> wrote: > I know its probably been asked before, but what is a good lubricant to > use for speedcubing? I tried both the rubiks.com cube lube and a > silicone based car tire wax, and both didn't really seem to loosen my > cube up much. Any suggestions as to how i can get my cube to be a > little quicker? > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3863. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 14:45:34 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > We have those invader things all over manchester... Ah, thanks. I had wondered what those were. :D By the way, do you know what happened to that group of figures in bronze in St Peter's Square? Their gender-deprived condition perhaps symbolized the hideous after-effects of nuclear war: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3704 Not a very good picture. The official title of the piece was something clunky like "Nuclear Family", so it was fun now and then to think up better names for the sculpture. Mike
3864. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 14:56:18 -0000

Probibly got nicked. Look at this.... no more arguments! :D http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pwned0fl.jpg ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > We have those invader things all over manchester... > > Ah, thanks. I had wondered what those were. :D > > By the way, do you know what happened to that group of figures in > bronze in St Peter's Square? Their gender-deprived condition perhaps > symbolized the hideous after-effects of nuclear war: > > http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3704 > > Not a very good picture. The official title of the piece was something > clunky like "Nuclear Family", so it was fun now and then to think up > better names for the sculpture. > > Mike >
3865. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 15:09:59 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > Look at this.... > no more arguments! :D Oh, noooo-oo-o-o-o! Please don't resurrect that one. :) Mike
3866. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 15:15:41 -0000

Haha, i think i've put the final nail in the coffin. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > Look at this.... > > no more arguments! :D > > Oh, noooo-oo-o-o-o! Please don't resurrect that one. :) > > Mike >
3867. Re: Cube Art - may be off topic here -- Incredible!
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 14:59:51 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > Not a very good picture. The official title of the piece was ...even worse than I remembered. A better picture: http://tinyurl.com/fauvk Mike
3868. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:32:28 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Bouchard To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 5:54 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: Rutgers Spring 2006 I've had a few people ask me similar questions so I'm making a FAQ :p Q: What Happened on the 98.35? A: I was doing a good solve, about to be 20.xx, doing the A perm when 3-4 pieces flew outta my cube, so I found them on the ground, shoved them back in (didn't know how, so I just stuck them in randomly) and so I had to redo almost the whole solve, so by now it is about 35-40 and I'm restarting the solve, and I get to OLL and see that an edge is flipped, so I orient my edges, then I go to orient my corners, and they are wrongly put it, so I have to fix those, then I go to PLL, and theres a 3 edge cycle with a 2 corner cycle, so I have to pull out some pieces, put them back in, and do the F perm...and then bam I'm done :) Should this solve really be approved? Speaking highly theoretically, if four pieces "flew outta your cube", you can rearrange them to get a better situation than you had earlier. What does the law say in this case? R SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3869. [Speed cubing group] Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 18:04:29 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune. wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Should this solve really be approved? Speaking highly theoretically, if four pieces "flew outta your cube", you can rearrange them to get a better situation than you had earlier. What does the law say in this case? > R It says: "5b2) During the repairing of the puzzle, the competitor may not intentionally make the position easier to solve than before the defect." Dang... for a moment I thought there's a way for me to get the Square-1 world record... Cheers! Stefan
3870. Quick rules check
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 19:13:21 -0000

I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. Peter Greenwood
3871. Re: 4x4 reassemble
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 19:14:07 -0000

For now, you can look at the pictures I have taken which will be in the page. http://cube.ionws.com/peter/images/4x4/PA290053.JPG The pictures range from 53-92. Change the number to suit your needs. Good luck! Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I am actually right now working on my 4x4 reassembly site. I will be > sure to link everyone when it is ready. For now, you can join the chat > room. It is #rubik on irc.ircstorm.net 6667, or here: > http://www.strangepuzzle.com/chat.php > My nick is pjgat09, feel free to ask me. > > Peter Greenwood > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "bballkid2076" > <bballkid2076@> wrote: > > > > I took apart my Rubiks 4x4 to lube it and i am not sure how to > > reassemble it. Can anyone explain how to do so or direct me to a site > > that explains it. > > > > Thanks > > >
3872. Re: [Speed cubing group] Quick rules check
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 12:33:00 -0700

If you aren't sure, you can always ask the judge to straighten the cube? Tyson Mao Astrophysics '06 California Institute of Technology On May 1, 2006, at 12:13 PM, pjgat09 wrote: > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
3873. Re: [Speed cubing group] Quick rules check
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 20:32:29 -0000

Hey everyone, I'll be perfectly honest about this, I've always just straightened the faces on my cube when that happens. According to the rules I should have been disqualified immediately for doing this (something I didn't know until just now). "During this inspection time, the competitor is allowed to pick up the puzzle, but he may not manipulate the puzzle in anyway. If the competitor manipulates the puzzle, the solve is disqualified." Is the best solution to finish the inspection time. Then say that I would like the faces to be realigned? Also, am I disqualified if I look at the cube to make sure the judge is realigning them correctly? (I could be looking for an Xcross, or a better cross). I think it would be nice to allow competitors to straighten the faces, but if it would be better to have the judge do this I'll start doing that in the future. Also, maybe judges should be trained to make sure the cube is perfectly aligned before they set it down. And if something happens and the cube is misaligned the competitor can request it at the end of the 15 seconds? Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > If you aren't sure, you can always ask the judge to straighten the cube? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On May 1, 2006, at 12:13 PM, pjgat09 wrote: > > > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a > > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I > > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3874. Re: [Speed cubing group] Quick rules check
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 20:21:59 -0000

Doesn't that waste precious inspection time? Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote: > > If you aren't sure, you can always ask the judge to straighten the cube? > > Tyson Mao > Astrophysics '06 > California Institute of Technology > > On May 1, 2006, at 12:13 PM, pjgat09 wrote: > > > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a > > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I > > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3875. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Bruce Norskog" <brnorsk@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 21:45:25 -0000

I looked at strangepuzzle.com, and that site appears to require the videos to be available online already (temporarily, anyway). So I looked for a free site I could put them on. I also noticed that the files on strangepuzzle.com (the few I looked at) were .wmv files. So I downloaded some software that would convert my AVI files to that format. So I've made available .wmv files of the videos I mentioned before at the URLs listed below. If someone (particular the solver in the video clip) wants to archive them to strangepuzzle.com, that is fine with me. These URLs should work for at least 31 days (actually 31 days from the time someone last downloads the particular file). I have these five files currently available. The links bring up a web page that will allow you to download the file. Craig444_12094.wmv http://tinyurl.com/pz8nw Cory444_12985.wmv http://tinyurl.com/lflmr Lacey.wmv http://tinyurl.com/q74t8 Anthony1484.wmv http://tinyurl.com/ny9ho AnthonyBLD.wmv http://tinyurl.com/mgs26 Let me know if you want me to put up any other videos from the Rutgers event. If I taped it I should be able to locate it and post it. (I do not have Cory's 2:12.93 5x5x5 solve.) I can also post files as MPEG if you want higher quality (and larger file sizes). - Bruce Norskog --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@...> wrote: > > You're welcome. Thank you to all who came, judged, scrambled, > competed, helped out, and watched. I think the tournament was a great > success and it was great to meet some new cubers. :) > > How about strangepuzzle.com for the videos? > > ~ Bob > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" > <brnorsk@> wrote: > > > > As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at > > Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and > > converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded > > the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get > > much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality > > setting aimed at handheld devices. > > > > Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so > > I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The > > following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or > > around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. > > > > 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ > > seconds). > > 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. > > 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. > > 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. > > 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve > > > > I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. > > > > I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to > > make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my > > camera to take videos of me. > > > > - Bruce Norskog > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > > > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to > think... > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > > > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I > showed > > > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I > know > > > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for > me ;) > > > > > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a > pop > > > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the > corner > > > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me > forever > > > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube > down. It > > > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't > get the > > > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and > > Anthony > > > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > > > almost :p > > > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD > attempts...Stefan, we > > > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > > > > dunno > > > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a > 1.12 > > > > > the > > > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the > > only > > > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > > > competition > > > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this > isn't > > > > > over... > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > > > > crew > > > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and > 2nd in > > > > > just > > > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the > Magic > > > > > event > > > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > > > > times > > > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm > going > > > > > to > > > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > > > > back into > > > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a > lot of > > > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > > > > great > > > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > > > cubers again. > > > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3876. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 21:54:46 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" <brnorsk@...> wrote: > Hey Bruce, great videos. I was wondering if you have any videos of me solving (andrew spelman) as for i have never seen myself cube before and would find it interesting. If you could send it to me at bballkid2076@aim.com I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!! > I looked at strangepuzzle.com, and that site appears to require the > videos to be available online already (temporarily, anyway). So I > looked for a free site I could put them on. I also noticed that the > files on strangepuzzle.com (the few I looked at) were .wmv files. So I > downloaded some software that would convert my AVI files to that > format. So I've made available .wmv files of the videos I mentioned > before at the URLs listed below. If someone (particular the solver in > the video clip) wants to archive them to strangepuzzle.com, that is > fine with me. These URLs should work for at least 31 days (actually 31 > days from the time someone last downloads the particular file). > > I have these five files currently available. The links bring up a web > page that will allow you to download the file. > > Craig444_12094.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/pz8nw > > Cory444_12985.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/lflmr > > Lacey.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/q74t8 > > Anthony1484.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/ny9ho > > AnthonyBLD.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/mgs26 > > Let me know if you want me to put up any other videos from the Rutgers > event. If I taped it I should be able to locate it and post it. (I do > not have Cory's 2:12.93 5x5x5 solve.) I can also post files as MPEG if > you want higher quality (and larger file sizes). > > - Bruce Norskog > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > wrote: > > > > You're welcome. Thank you to all who came, judged, scrambled, > > competed, helped out, and watched. I think the tournament was a great > > success and it was great to meet some new cubers. :) > > > > How about strangepuzzle.com for the videos? > > > > ~ Bob > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" > > <brnorsk@> wrote: > > > > > > As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at > > > Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and > > > converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded > > > the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get > > > much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality > > > setting aimed at handheld devices. > > > > > > Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so > > > I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The > > > following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or > > > around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. > > > > > > 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ > > > seconds). > > > 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. > > > 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. > > > 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. > > > 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve > > > > > > I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. > > > > > > I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to > > > make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my > > > camera to take videos of me. > > > > > > - Bruce Norskog > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > > > > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to > > think... > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly > remember > > > > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I > > showed > > > > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > > > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I > > know > > > > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for > > me ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a > > pop > > > > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the > > corner > > > > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me > > forever > > > > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube > > down. It > > > > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo > stickers?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't > > get the > > > > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for > a fun > > > > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and > > > Anthony > > > > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > > > > almost :p > > > > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD > > attempts...Stefan, we > > > > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, > but I > > > > > > dunno > > > > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a > > 1.12 > > > > > > the > > > > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the > > > only > > > > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > > > > competition > > > > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this > > isn't > > > > > > over... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" > <iwinoky@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the > northeast > > > > > > crew > > > > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and > > 2nd in > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the > > Magic > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in > December, my > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm > > going > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I > get > > > > > > back into > > > > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a > > lot of > > > > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for > another > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > > > > cubers again. > > > > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3877. Re: Quick rules check
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 22:10:53 -0000

Hey Peter, I also had one occasion where this happened during the German Open... I am not sure which puzzle it was, but it might have been the megaminx (which pops very nasty, if faces are not aligned perfectly). It just needed a tiny little press of a finger to make sure that didn't happen on the first move... And I'll also admit that I did that... I think it should be allowed. Making a move of 1 milimeter is clearly different from making a full move, so judges should not have any trouble judging this. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. > > Peter Greenwood >
3878. Re: Quick rules check
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 22:31:12 -0000

Hey Peter, I noticed this too, and as I picked it up I just squeezed the cube, and you couldn't tell I did it...I just squeezed as I picked up, and it was fixed... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey Peter, > > I also had one occasion where this happened during the German Open... > I am not sure which puzzle it was, but it might have been the megaminx > (which pops very nasty, if faces are not aligned perfectly). It just > needed a tiny little press of a finger to make sure that didn't happen > on the first move... And I'll also admit that I did that... I think it > should be allowed. Making a move of 1 milimeter is clearly different > from making a full move, so judges should not have any trouble judging > this. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a > > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I > > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. > > > > Peter Greenwood > > >
3879. Re: [Speed cubing group] Quick rules check
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 00:00:19 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> wrote: > > "During this inspection time, the competitor is allowed to pick up the > puzzle, but he may not manipulate the puzzle in anyway. If the > competitor manipulates the puzzle, the solve is disqualified." I hardly think squeezing the cube would count as "manipulating" the puzzle. I'm sure that rule is there to prevent people from doing trial twists during inspection, etc. Nevertheless it would probably make sense to have a regulation instructing the judge to ensure correct alignment prior to inspection. Chris
3880. Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 00:40:50 -0000

Hey Bruce, Thanks for linking to those videos, I enjoyed watching them. If you get a chance to put any more up let us know, I for one would love to watch them. As a personal request, if you happen to have any of me, could I get some slightly uncompressed versions? Let me know at cparlett@....edu. Also, thanks again to Bob for running a great tournament. It was great to see everyone there (either again or for the first time). We had a wide range of ages, regions, and cubing experience represented, which made for a great mix. Also, I was the only Chris there, but the first few times they called me I wasn't sure if they meant me or one of the 6 other Chris's. -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" <brnorsk@...> wrote: > > I looked at strangepuzzle.com, and that site appears to require the > videos to be available online already (temporarily, anyway). So I > looked for a free site I could put them on. I also noticed that the > files on strangepuzzle.com (the few I looked at) were .wmv files. So I > downloaded some software that would convert my AVI files to that > format. So I've made available .wmv files of the videos I mentioned > before at the URLs listed below. If someone (particular the solver in > the video clip) wants to archive them to strangepuzzle.com, that is > fine with me. These URLs should work for at least 31 days (actually 31 > days from the time someone last downloads the particular file). > > I have these five files currently available. The links bring up a web > page that will allow you to download the file. > > Craig444_12094.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/pz8nw > > Cory444_12985.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/lflmr > > Lacey.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/q74t8 > > Anthony1484.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/ny9ho > > AnthonyBLD.wmv > http://tinyurl.com/mgs26 > > Let me know if you want me to put up any other videos from the Rutgers > event. If I taped it I should be able to locate it and post it. (I do > not have Cory's 2:12.93 5x5x5 solve.) I can also post files as MPEG if > you want higher quality (and larger file sizes). > > - Bruce Norskog > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > wrote: > > > > You're welcome. Thank you to all who came, judged, scrambled, > > competed, helped out, and watched. I think the tournament was a great > > success and it was great to meet some new cubers. :) > > > > How about strangepuzzle.com for the videos? > > > > ~ Bob > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" > > <brnorsk@> wrote: > > > > > > As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at > > > Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and > > > converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded > > > the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get > > > much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality > > > setting aimed at handheld devices. > > > > > > Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so > > > I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The > > > following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or > > > around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. > > > > > > 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ > > > seconds). > > > 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. > > > 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. > > > 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. > > > 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve > > > > > > I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. > > > > > > I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to > > > make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my > > > camera to take videos of me. > > > > > > - Bruce Norskog > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > > > > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to > > think... > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly > remember > > > > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I > > showed > > > > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > > > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I > > know > > > > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for > > me ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a > > pop > > > > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the > > corner > > > > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me > > forever > > > > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube > > down. It > > > > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo > stickers?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't > > get the > > > > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for > a fun > > > > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and > > > Anthony > > > > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > > > > almost :p > > > > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD > > attempts...Stefan, we > > > > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, > but I > > > > > > dunno > > > > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a > > 1.12 > > > > > > the > > > > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the > > > only > > > > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > > > > competition > > > > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this > > isn't > > > > > > over... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" > <iwinoky@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the > northeast > > > > > > crew > > > > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and > > 2nd in > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the > > Magic > > > > > > event > > > > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in > December, my > > > > > > times > > > > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm > > going > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I > get > > > > > > back into > > > > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a > > lot of > > > > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for > another > > > > > > great > > > > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > > > > cubers again. > > > > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3881. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 01:18:43 +0000 (GMT)

You could put them at www.youtube.com it's great Pedro Bruce Norskog <brnorsk@...> escreveu: I looked at strangepuzzle.com, and that site appears to require the videos to be available online already (temporarily, anyway). So I looked for a free site I could put them on. I also noticed that the files on strangepuzzle.com (the few I looked at) were .wmv files. So I downloaded some software that would convert my AVI files to that format. So I've made available .wmv files of the videos I mentioned before at the URLs listed below. If someone (particular the solver in the video clip) wants to archive them to strangepuzzle.com, that is fine with me. These URLs should work for at least 31 days (actually 31 days from the time someone last downloads the particular file). I have these five files currently available. The links bring up a web page that will allow you to download the file. Craig444_12094.wmv http://tinyurl.com/pz8nw Cory444_12985.wmv http://tinyurl.com/lflmr Lacey.wmv http://tinyurl.com/q74t8 Anthony1484.wmv http://tinyurl.com/ny9ho AnthonyBLD.wmv http://tinyurl.com/mgs26 Let me know if you want me to put up any other videos from the Rutgers event. If I taped it I should be able to locate it and post it. (I do not have Cory's 2:12.93 5x5x5 solve.) I can also post files as MPEG if you want higher quality (and larger file sizes). - Bruce Norskog --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@...> wrote: > > You're welcome. Thank you to all who came, judged, scrambled, > competed, helped out, and watched. I think the tournament was a great > success and it was great to meet some new cubers. :) > > How about strangepuzzle.com for the videos? > > ~ Bob > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" > <brnorsk@> wrote: > > > > As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at > > Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and > > converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded > > the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get > > much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality > > setting aimed at handheld devices. > > > > Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so > > I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The > > following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or > > around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. > > > > 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ > > seconds). > > 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. > > 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. > > 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. > > 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve > > > > I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. > > > > I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to > > make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my > > camera to take videos of me. > > > > - Bruce Norskog > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > > > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to > think... > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > > > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I > showed > > > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I > know > > > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for > me ;) > > > > > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a > pop > > > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the > corner > > > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me > forever > > > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube > down. It > > > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't > get the > > > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and > > Anthony > > > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > > > almost :p > > > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD > attempts...Stefan, we > > > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > > > > dunno > > > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a > 1.12 > > > > > the > > > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the > > only > > > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > > > competition > > > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this > isn't > > > > > over... > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > > > > crew > > > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and > 2nd in > > > > > just > > > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the > Magic > > > > > event > > > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > > > > times > > > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm > going > > > > > to > > > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > > > > back into > > > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a > lot of > > > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > > > > great > > > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > > > cubers again. > > > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3882. Re: South Florida Cubers
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 02:51:43 -0000

Better late than never! http://www.chrisandkori.us/fw/main/G_Wiz_Fall_2006-1502.html Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thebunze" <thebunze@...> wrote: > > Anyone from South Florida? Hollywood area perhaps? > > Also, any South Florida Cube Competitions coming up soon? >
3883. Re: [Speed cubing group] Quick rules check
From: Lars Petrus <lars@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 20:26:30 -0700

Except that judging when a cube is perfectly aligned is not a trivial thing. Maybe it's not even an objective thing. I can feel when my cube is in perfect harmony, and I can fix it while inspecting - you won't even notice, except that there'll be a bit more squeaking than usual. If it's misaligned after that, it's my fault. If it's the judges responsibility, all sorts of problems with perceived or real disadvantages, random or intentional, can occur. One of the very best things with modern cubing is that you get to supply your own cube. Thus you have no one to blame if it performs badly or not to your taste. I would just keep things simple, and treat this similarly. The only regulation would be that you can't make actual moves (duh!), and that you have to retain the cubic shape - not start with the first move quarter done. /Lars On May 1, 2006, at 17:00, christopher_pelley wrote: > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, cmhardw <no_reply@...> > wrote: >> >> "During this inspection time, the competitor is allowed to pick up > the >> puzzle, but he may not manipulate the puzzle in anyway. If the >> competitor manipulates the puzzle, the solve is disqualified." > > > I hardly think squeezing the cube would count as "manipulating" the > puzzle. I'm sure that rule is there to prevent people from doing > trial twists during inspection, etc. Nevertheless it would probably > make sense to have a regulation instructing the judge to ensure > correct alignment prior to inspection. > > Chris
3884. Re: [Speed cubing group] Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 17:02:45 +1000

On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:07:58AM -0000, harrierfalcon wrote: > I'm looking for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest > algorithoms to memorize. Any suggestions? http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html Ryan
3885. Re: [Speed cubing group] Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "Timothy Sun" <linkpoke@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 08:03:52 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:07:58AM -0000, harrierfalcon wrote: > > I'm looking for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest > > algorithoms to memorize. Any suggestions? > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > Ryan > Man that new design is hot stuff, and better. :D
3886. Re: [Speed cubing group] Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 18:03:06 +1000

On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 05:02:45PM +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:07:58AM -0000, harrierfalcon wrote: > > I'm looking for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest > > algorithoms to memorize. Any suggestions? > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html I have also put up a description of the Human Thistlethwaite algorithm which I described here a few years ago: http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/ I'm no longer developing it, but maybe someone else will find it useful. Ryan
3887. Re: [Speed cubing group] Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 08:14:08 -0000

It looks well explained and nice looking. Except "Solving the edges plus 2 corners", it's maybe the most difficult stage, but there are not a lot of details :-) Great new page Ryan!!! Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:07:58AM -0000, harrierfalcon wrote: > > I'm looking for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest > > algorithoms to memorize. Any suggestions? > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > Ryan >
3888. Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!!
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 13:22:33 +0200

Hi, I have the impression that my DIY cubes work better without washers. With washers the cubes seem more fragile and are a little "bouncing". Any comments? R ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher_pelley" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] OH MAN I love DIY!! > I like to assemble as follows: > > 1. Put the springs on the screws, followed by the washer. Make the > flat side of the washer face the spring. Insert the > screw/spring/washer into the center. Do that for all six.
3889. Re : [Speed cubing group] Re: Rutgers Spring 2006
From: Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 15:42:39 +0000 (GMT)

I didn't knew this site. It's very easy to upload some videos. Thanks man. ----- Message d'origine ---- De : Pedro <pedrosino1@...> À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Mardi, 2 Mai 2006, 3h18mn 43s Objet : Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Rutgers Spring 2006 You could put them at www.youtube.com it's great Pedro Bruce Norskog <brnorsk@...> escreveu: I looked at strangepuzzle.com, and that site appears to require the videos to be available online already (temporarily, anyway). So I looked for a free site I could put them on. I also noticed that the files on strangepuzzle.com (the few I looked at) were .wmv files. So I downloaded some software that would convert my AVI files to that format. So I've made available .wmv files of the videos I mentioned before at the URLs listed below. If someone (particular the solver in the video clip) wants to archive them to strangepuzzle.com, that is fine with me. These URLs should work for at least 31 days (actually 31 days from the time someone last downloads the particular file). I have these five files currently available. The links bring up a web page that will allow you to download the file. Craig444_12094.wmv http://tinyurl.com/pz8nw Cory444_12985.wmv http://tinyurl.com/lflmr Lacey.wmv http://tinyurl.com/q74t8 Anthony1484.wmv http://tinyurl.com/ny9ho AnthonyBLD.wmv http://tinyurl.com/mgs26 Let me know if you want me to put up any other videos from the Rutgers event. If I taped it I should be able to locate it and post it. (I do not have Cory's 2:12.93 5x5x5 solve.) I can also post files as MPEG if you want higher quality (and larger file sizes). - Bruce Norskog --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@...> wrote: > > You're welcome. Thank you to all who came, judged, scrambled, > competed, helped out, and watched. I think the tournament was a great > success and it was great to meet some new cubers. :) > > How about strangepuzzle.com for the videos? > > ~ Bob > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Norskog" > <brnorsk@> wrote: > > > > As Craig had mentioned, someone took a "whackload" of video at > > Rutgers. That was me. I've extracted some highlights and > > converted them to MPEG1 (1.4 megabits/sec). I also downloaded > > the DIVX converter. It produced somewhat smaller files, or to get > > much smaller file size than MPEG, I had had to use the quality > > setting aimed at handheld devices. > > > > Still, the files are too big to upload to the files section, so > > I am asking for suggestions on what to do with videos. The > > following list is around 55 megabytes total (MPEG1) or > > around 13 megabytes for low-quality DIVX. > > > > 1. Craig's Canadian record 4x4x4 solve (pre-inspection + last 35+ > > seconds). > > 2. Cory's 1:29.85 4x4x4 solve. > > 3. Lacey's final Master Magic attempt. > > 4. Anthony's sub-15 second solve. > > 5. Anthony's winning BLD solve > > > > I have lots of other video as well. Let me know what you want to see. > > > > I wish to add my thanks to Bob Burton and all who helped out to > > make the event happen. I also want to thank those who used my > > camera to take videos of me. > > > > - Bruce Norskog > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > yes Peter I saw that :) And Tim, good job pointing out all the > > > highlights of the day...haha...any ones you missed...trying to > think... > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think there is a problem with one of my times. I clearly remember > > > > getting a 2:15.00 on one of my 4x4x4 solves. Craig, I believe I > showed > > > > you, right? Bob, if you read this can you double check that? Thanks. > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Reynolds" > > > > <timothy.reynolds2@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You could have gotten an 8th NR if your warmup magic times had > > > > > counted...heck, maybe even WR's for magic single + average. I > know > > > > > why you didn't do so well: my dad wasn't judging you ;) > > > > > > > > > > Oh, don't blame Stefan for his BLD method. It worked fine for > me ;) > > > > > > > > > > I did horribly on 4x4 in my first two solves. First one was a > pop > > > > > that killed my concentration, not to mention that I put the > corner > > > > > in wrong, then when I fixed it I did that wrong. Second was > > > > > ridiculous: I did centers in the wrong order and it took me > forever > > > > > to notice that red was next to orange. > > > > > > > > > > My 3x3 DNF in round 2 was a 2-piece pop as I set the cube > down. It > > > > > was 24.xx so I'd have dropped it anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Nice job everyone, especially cory on almost getting a 12.40 > > > > > average ;) Too bad it was actually 19.xx. By the way, what on > > > > > earth do you plan on doing with your 54 cubesmith logo stickers?? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks very much, Bob, that was a great contest. > > > > > Can't wait for May 27! > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > > > > > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't get back until quite late last night, so I didn't > get the > > > > > > chance to jump on here. I too would like to thank Bob for a fun > > > > > > tournament (not including the slight problems :p) Cory and > > Anthony > > > > > > Cleaned up, and I was kicking at their heels in every event > > > > > almost :p > > > > > > Oh, and I know what I did wrong on all 3 BLD > attempts...Stefan, we > > > > > > need to talk... > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyways, I got 7 national records about what I was hoping for: > > > > > > 4x4x4 - 1:20.94 > > > > > > 4x4x4 Average - 1:43.71 > > > > > > 5x5x5 - 3:20.31 > > > > > > 5x5x5 Average - 3:33.62 > > > > > > Master Magic - 3.09 > > > > > > Master Magic Average - 4.32 > > > > > > Magic - 1.18 (second fastest ever in competition) > > > > > > > > > > > > Theres a good whackload of video out there someone took, but I > > > > > dunno > > > > > > if and when it will surface. I screwed up magic cuz I did a > 1.12 > > > > > the > > > > > > attempt before my official attempts, and everyone saw > > > > > > it...humph...anyways... > > > > > > > > > > > > I got some times I was really happy with too...I think I'm the > > only > > > > > > person that can say they were in every single round of the > > > > > competition > > > > > > :p It was a busy day, but I had a lot of fun...Lacey, this > isn't > > > > > over... > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Ian" <iwinoky@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also want to thank Bob. It was great seeing the northeast > > > > > crew > > > > > > > again. Congrats to Corey and Anthony for taking 1st and > 2nd in > > > > > just > > > > > > > about every event. I still can't believe a child won the > Magic > > > > > event > > > > > > > (I think Lacey is only about 8 years old!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After not cubing since the Rutgers tournament in December, my > > > > > times > > > > > > > have somehow improved on the 3x3 and the one-handed. I'm > going > > > > > to > > > > > > > take the next few years off; maybe I'll be sub 15 when I get > > > > > back into > > > > > > > cubing in 2010! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take it easy, guys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 > > > > > <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just got back from Rutgers Spring 2006, and I had a > lot of > > > > > fun. Bob > > > > > > > > was a great host, and I would like to thank him for another > > > > > great > > > > > > > > competition. It was great to see some of the new england > > > > > cubers again. > > > > > > > > I can't wait for Rutgers Fall. Thanks again Bob! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. 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3890. Canadian Cubers?
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 23:09:11 +0530

Hello all. Just caught up with the group after almost a week and now im updating myself for the last half hour :-( Why do you ppl write soo many mails after all? Hehe Anyways, i have a friend whos coming to Canada this summer, in may. He will be doing a project at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver. Do we have any cubers in that area? It would be nice to have some acquaintance there. Also since hes a very good friend of mine, im going to tell him to get a lot of cubes for me :-) Could anyone tell me any specific places where i could tell him to go and buy the cubes? Please let me know if you have any ideas. Sachin.
3891. Re: [Speed cubing group] Quick rules check
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 17:58:14 -0000

Hi :-) Scramblers doing that should be sacked! ;-) Hehe ... :D But seriously if some layers are not aligned, it must be possible to sort that out before the inspection time commenses? Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Doesn't that waste precious inspection time? > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@> > wrote: > > > > If you aren't sure, you can always ask the judge to straighten the > cube? > > > > Tyson Mao > > Astrophysics '06 > > California Institute of Technology > > > > On May 1, 2006, at 12:13 PM, pjgat09 wrote: > > > > > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed > a > > > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > > > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > > > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am > I > > > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > > > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next > competition. > > > > > > Peter Greenwood > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3892. Re: Canadian Cubers?
From: thewetdog <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 18:45:52 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...> wrote: > Anyways, i have a friend whos coming to Canada this summer, in may. He > will be doing a project at the University of British Columbia in > Vancouver. Do we have any cubers in that area? > It would be nice to have some acquaintance there. > > Also since hes a very good friend of mine, im going to tell him to get > a lot of cubes for me :-) Could anyone tell me any specific places > where i could tell him to go and buy the cubes? > > Please let me know if you have any ideas. > Sachin. I am not sure if we do have cubers in Vancouver or not. Sorry, I think the bulk of us are on the eastern side of the continent. As for a place to buy cubes, Toys R Us is always good, if you are going for the pre-packaged cube angle. And I know there are some in Vancouver (see website for details). http://tinyurl.com/fbt9a Of course, if he is here long enough, tell him to order some DIY kits from rubiks.com since it is easy and cheap to have it shipped within the country. -Dave Campbell
3893. Re: Quick rules check
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 22:40:38 -0000

Is it allowed to just push a crooked side onto the table? Kind of like how you would do a deck of cards. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, pjgat09 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I had this problem at Rutgers Spring. Sometimes I would be handed a > scramble where the sides were not aligned to the point that if I > turned an adjacent side, it would lock up. The sides were turned > enought that I knew where they were, but they were not aligned. Am I > allowed to straighten them while inspecting? (I didn't do it at > Rutgers as I wasn't sure) Just want to know for my next competition. > > Peter Greenwood >
3894. 2 gen f2l algs
From: "bballkid2076" <bballkid2076@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 02 May 2006 23:49:16 -0000

Does anyone know a site with 2 generator f2l algs? Thanks
3895. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: d_funny007 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 01:29:16 -0000

Ryan, I *highly* recommend splitting that page up (into 2 or 3). If I'm having trouble loading the page, then I'd bet a majority of people have the same issue, although it might be localized to IE6. I suspect you are using more applets than the designer orignally intended to be on the same page simutaneously. It maxed out my CPU and caused my *new* computer to crash. -Doug --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 02:07:58AM -0000, harrierfalcon wrote: > > I'm looking for a new speedcubing solution but with the fewest > > algorithoms to memorize. Any suggestions? > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > Ryan >
3896. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 13:51:44 +1000

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:29:16AM -0000, d_funny007 wrote: > I suspect you are using more applets than the designer orignally > intended to be on the same page simutaneously. It maxed out my CPU and > caused my *new* computer to crash. I've now converted most of the still applets into still images: http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html Does it still crash for you? Ryan
3897. [Speed cubing group] Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 05:28:33 -0000

Hi :-) I was having almost the same problem when using Internet Explorer. The page was extremely slow and used 100% cpu. When i reopened the page in Firefox 2.0 it worked fine, despite the high number of applets :-) Cheers! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:29:16AM -0000, d_funny007 wrote: > > I suspect you are using more applets than the designer orignally > > intended to be on the same page simutaneously. It maxed out my CPU and > > caused my *new* computer to crash. > > I've now converted most of the still applets into still images: > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > Does it still crash for you? > > Ryan >
3898. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: d_funny007 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 12:26:37 -0000

No, it loaded just fine now. Now that I can see it, I recommend splitting it into roughly 6 sections since it takes about 18 pages to print it all. It would split nicely into 4 I can see. A lot of very well organized and useful information all in one place, I like what you did. On a related note... http://software.rubikscube.info/AnimCube/index.html freezes for me. It's got to be my system or the stability of that applet. I wonder if anybody else had touble with his site. (6 minutes later, hem... so it does finish loading) -Doug --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise <ryan@...> wrote: > > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:29:16AM -0000, d_funny007 wrote: > > I suspect you are using more applets than the designer orignally > > intended to be on the same page simutaneously. It maxed out my CPU and > > caused my *new* computer to crash. > > I've now converted most of the still applets into still images: > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > Does it still crash for you? > > Ryan >
3899. G-Wiz Fall 2006 Competition (Sarasota, Florida)
From: christopher_pelley <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 14:18:00 -0000

I'm proud to announce that I will be hosting an official competition in Florida this fall (October 21) at the G-Wiz Hands-On Science Museum in Sarasota, Florida. The museum is right on beautiful Sarasota Bay, so if you're looking for a good excuse to vacation in Florida, here's your chance! Details and online registration can be found here: http://www.chrisandkori.us/fw/main/G_Wiz_Fall_2006-1502.html Chris Pelley
3900. Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 18:31:52 +0200

Hi all, This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq and feel free to ask any questions. /Gustav
3901. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution (Josef's applet)
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:19:51 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, d_funny007 <no_reply@...> wrote: > On a related note... > http://software.rubikscube.info/AnimCube/index.html freezes for me. > It's got to be my system or the stability of that applet. I wonder > if anybody else had touble with his site. Yes, I have that problem, using IE6 under Windows XP, with an up-to- date version of Java from Sun. Mike
3902. Nice algorithm for the V-permutation
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:31:52 -0000

Hey everybody, I recently found this nice alg for the V permutation: R' U R' U' z' U R' U' R U' z y R2 U' R2 d R2 I still prefer my old alg for, but I am going to use this for OH cubing.. The cube rotations are much easier.. I hope someone likes it. - Joël.
3903. Re: Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:30:08 -0000

How/where was it signed? Give us a story :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a > Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by > Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq > and feel free to ask any questions. > > /Gustav >
3904. Re: Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: "skeneegee" <skeneegee@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 17:39:51 -0000

http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18611&highlight=#18611 --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > How/where was it signed? > > Give us a story :) > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Gustav Fredell > <gufr5747@> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a > > Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by > > Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq > > and feel free to ask any questions. > > > > /Gustav > > >
3905. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 20:17:48 +0200

Yup. Thats the story. Thanks for posting. /Gustav skeneegee skrev: >http://twistypuzzles.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18611&highlight=#18611 > >--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" ><snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > >>How/where was it signed? >> >>Give us a story :) >> >> > > > >>~Thom >> >>--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Gustav Fredell >><gufr5747@> wrote: >> >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a >>>Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by >>>Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on >>> >>> >http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq > > >>>and feel free to ask any questions. >>> >>>/Gustav >>> >>> >>> > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > > > >
3906. Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 21:08:33 -0000

Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. I set it today on 2.49 Here is the Vid http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> Greets Alexander Ooms [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3907. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 21:17:01 -0000

it's 2.54 :P But yeah, congrats. So you say this method has potential? :D ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > I set it today on 2.49 > > Here is the Vid > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > Greets > Alexander Ooms > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3908. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 23:25:14 +0200

Can you do this next saturday please ? Thank you :D and congratulations by the way :p Gilles. 2006/5/3, thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...>: > it's 2.54 :P > > But yeah, congrats. So you say this method has potential? :D > > ~Thom > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> > wrote: > > > > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > > I set it today on 2.49 > > > > Here is the Vid > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > > > Greets > > Alexander Ooms > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3909. [Speed cubing group] Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 21:44:16 -0000

I didn't have any problems at all using Avant Browser, which uses IE's engine. Jon > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > <ryan@> wrote: > > > > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:29:16AM -0000, d_funny007 wrote: > > > I suspect you are using more applets than the designer orignally > > > intended to be on the same page simutaneously. It maxed out my > CPU and > > > caused my *new* computer to crash. > > > > I've now converted most of the still applets into still images: > > > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > > > Does it still crash for you? > > > > Ryan > > >
3910. [Speed cubing group] Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 22:01:23 -0000

Yeah sorry it was 2.54 :) i hope to do this on Saturday :) and braken some WR records Alexander --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > Can you do this next saturday please ? > > Thank you :D > > and congratulations by the way :p > > Gilles. > > 2006/5/3, thomkirjava <snkenjoi@...>: > > it's 2.54 :P > > > > But yeah, congrats. So you say this method has potential? :D > > > > ~Thom > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > > > I set it today on 2.49 > > > > > > Here is the Vid > > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > > > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > > > > > Greets > > > Alexander Ooms > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3911. [Speed cubing group] Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution...
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 22:42:30 -0000

Fine in lynx... ;) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I didn't have any problems at all using Avant Browser, which uses > IE's engine. > > Jon > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Ryan Heise > > <ryan@> wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:29:16AM -0000, d_funny007 wrote: > > > > I suspect you are using more applets than the designer > orignally > > > > intended to be on the same page simutaneously. It maxed out my > > CPU and > > > > caused my *new* computer to crash. > > > > > > I've now converted most of the still applets into still images: > > > > > > http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/method.html > > > > > > Does it still crash for you? > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > >
3912. Re: Canadian Cubers?
From: "l3a1r0g" <l3a1r0g@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 23:06:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, thewetdog <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" > <sachinss@> wrote: > > Anyways, i have a friend whos coming to Canada this summer, in > may. He > > will be doing a project at the University of British Columbia in > > Vancouver. Do we have any cubers in that area? > > It would be nice to have some acquaintance there. > > > > Also since hes a very good friend of mine, im going to tell him to > get > > a lot of cubes for me :-) Could anyone tell me any specific places > > where i could tell him to go and buy the cubes? > > > > Please let me know if you have any ideas. > > Sachin. > > > I am not sure if we do have cubers in Vancouver or not. Sorry, I > think the bulk of us are on the eastern side of the continent. As > for a place to buy cubes, Toys R Us is always good, if you are going > for the pre-packaged cube angle. And I know there are some in > Vancouver (see website for details). > > http://tinyurl.com/fbt9a > > Of course, if he is here long enough, tell him to order some DIY > kits from rubiks.com since it is easy and cheap to have it shipped > within the country. > > -Dave Campbell > Hey Sachin, I live in Vancouver BC. If you budy is a cuber i would love to meet up with him and share methods and tricks. Im a resomably new cuber and have been cubing for 4 months (3 speed cubing, 2 petrus, 1 fridrich) and just made a 56.xx avg earlyer today. As for a good place to buy cubes, Toys R Us is your best bet for 3x3 cubes but if your looking for 4x4 or 5x5 cubes the only place you can find them is at the Sience and Nature store. http://www.shopwillowbrook.com:8080/wma/store_detail.jsp?storeId=153 Revenge is $30.77CND after taxes and a Professor is $36CND before tax(I think). I myself am also looking for Vancouver area cubers so if you find any please contact me. Hope this is helpful, Balrog
3913. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution (Josef's applet)
From: "Lars Vandenbergh" <lars.vandenbergh@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:50:49 -0000

It works fine here (Safari/Mac OS X), but looking at the Java Console reveals that this applet uses a HUGE amount of threads (205!!), which may explain why it's not that stable. I'm going to write Jozef about this issue, because surely 205 threads for drawing an image is overkill. Regards, Lars --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, d_funny007 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > On a related note... > > http://software.rubikscube.info/AnimCube/index.html freezes for me. > > It's got to be my system or the stability of that applet. I wonder > > if anybody else had touble with his site. > > Yes, I have that problem, using IE6 under Windows XP, with an up-to- > date version of Java from Sun. > > Mike >
3914. Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution (Josef's applet)
From: "Lars Vandenbergh" <lars.vandenbergh@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 11:58:53 -0000

Ahum... Scrolling down the page I realized that there are about 20 instances of that applet running on the same page, which explains why there are so many threads alive :). So forget about what I just said. Regards, Lars --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Lars Vandenbergh" <lars.vandenbergh@...> wrote: > > It works fine here (Safari/Mac OS X), but looking at the Java Console reveals that this > applet uses a HUGE amount of threads (205!!), which may explain why it's not that stable. > > I'm going to write Jozef about this issue, because surely 205 threads for drawing an image > is overkill. > > Regards, > Lars > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, d_funny007 > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > On a related note... > > > http://software.rubikscube.info/AnimCube/index.html freezes for me. > > > It's got to be my system or the stability of that applet. I wonder > > > if anybody else had touble with his site. > > > > Yes, I have that problem, using IE6 under Windows XP, with an up-to- > > date version of Java from Sun. > > > > Mike > > >
3915. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 12:37:31 -0000

Alex, Congrats! This means I have to come out of retirement. :P I just need a couple more days. I finish finals on Monday. ;) ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > I set it today on 2.49 > > Here is the Vid > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > Greets > Alexander Ooms > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3916. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Noob Cuber looking for new solution (Josef's applet)
From: Ryan Heise <ryan@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 22:51:11 +1000

On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 11:58:53AM -0000, Lars Vandenbergh wrote: > Ahum... Scrolling down the page I realized that there are about 20 > instances of that applet running on the same page, which explains why > there are so many threads alive :). The problem is more subtle since only the first applet on that page is using a thread continously (the one in demo mode). All of the other applets are idle until you click on one of their animation buttons, at which time a temporary thread is created, just for as long as it takes to perform the animation of that(/those) move(s). So where are all those other threads coming from? The Java environment itself needs some threads itself to manage GUI events. Unfortunately, it appears that 100 Java environments have been created on that page to manage 100 applets, and so there are 100 times more system threads than should really be necessary. Ideally, there should be one set of system threads per application (i.e. the browser), not one set per applet. Ryan
3917. Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 15:22:22 -0000

Hey everybody, I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the execution. One of the nicest examples is: Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. Notice after setup moves, the UFR, UBR and UR stickers have the same color! They will all end up on the left side. If you recognise the PLL in blocks, this will often give you a good clue about where one of the 'blocks' might end up. At the same time, after the setup moves, the FLU and FU stickers are the same.. They will end up on the R face. When I get this case, I can often use this to get a clue about what kind of PLL it is... (Often I can exclude that it's an E permuation :D). And I really feel that it speeds up the PLL recognition... After the OLL, I can often adjust U exactly right without looking. Another nice example you really should see is: Setup: r U2 R' U' R U' r'. Here, the UF and UFR stickers are the same.. Also the UBR/UR and LU/LUF stickers. You can often see something comming here.. Well.. I hope someone likes this idea.. There are many more examples.. It doesnt really take a long time to learn, because once you have seen it once or twice, you know it... - Joël.
3918. Re: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 17:33:42 +0200

I have been trying to do this too, and looking ahead is always the same thing : it is good :D What I hate is when I see a 1x3 block solved, because then I hope to have a PLL skip, which is rarely the case... But keep working :-) GIlles. 2006/5/4, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>: > Hey everybody, > > I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a > part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of > OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the > execution. One of the nicest examples is: > > Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R > > OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. > > Notice after setup moves, the UFR, UBR and UR stickers have the same > color! They will all end up on the left side. If you recognise the > PLL in blocks, this will often give you a good clue about where one > of the 'blocks' might end up. > > At the same time, after the setup moves, the FLU and FU stickers are > the same.. They will end up on the R face. > > When I get this case, I can often use this to get a clue about what > kind of PLL it is... (Often I can exclude that it's an E > permuation :D). And I really feel that it speeds up the PLL > recognition... After the OLL, I can often adjust U exactly right > without looking. > > Another nice example you really should see is: > > Setup: r U2 R' U' R U' r'. > > Here, the UF and UFR stickers are the same.. Also the UBR/UR and > LU/LUF stickers. You can often see something comming here.. > > Well.. I hope someone likes this idea.. There are many more > examples.. It doesnt really take a long time to learn, because once > you have seen it once or twice, you know it... > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3919. Re: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 15:37:50 -0000

Haha.. If I see that, I hope for a U PLL :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...> wrote: > > I have been trying to do this too, and looking ahead is always the > same thing : it is good :D > > What I hate is when I see a 1x3 block solved, because then I hope to > have a PLL skip, which is rarely the case... > > But keep working :-) > > GIlles. > > 2006/5/4, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>: > > Hey everybody, > > > > I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a > > part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of > > OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the > > execution. One of the nicest examples is: > > > > Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R > > > > OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. > > > > Notice after setup moves, the UFR, UBR and UR stickers have the same > > color! They will all end up on the left side. If you recognise the > > PLL in blocks, this will often give you a good clue about where one > > of the 'blocks' might end up. > > > > At the same time, after the setup moves, the FLU and FU stickers are > > the same.. They will end up on the R face. > > > > When I get this case, I can often use this to get a clue about what > > kind of PLL it is... (Often I can exclude that it's an E > > permuation :D). And I really feel that it speeds up the PLL > > recognition... After the OLL, I can often adjust U exactly right > > without looking. > > > > Another nice example you really should see is: > > > > Setup: r U2 R' U' R U' r'. > > > > Here, the UF and UFR stickers are the same.. Also the UBR/UR and > > LU/LUF stickers. You can often see something comming here.. > > > > Well.. I hope someone likes this idea.. There are many more > > examples.. It doesnt really take a long time to learn, because once > > you have seen it once or twice, you know it... > > > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3920. Re : [Speed cubing group] Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:18:31 +0000 (GMT)

Proficiat Alexander, it's really great to watch you solve a master magic. You did it at the German cube day the first evening and I was very impressed. ----- Message d'origine ---- De : a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Envoyé le : Mercredi, 3 Mai 2006, 11h08mn 33s Objet : [Speed cubing group] Master magic UWR single solve Broken. Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. I set it today on 2.49 Here is the Vid http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> Greets Alexander Ooms [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3921. Re: Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 16:30:06 -0000

A low number of cases in steps (N) and (N+1) allows you to anticipate (N+1) at the beginning of (N) or while executing the sequence. And with experience, you can anticipate move cancelations between (N) and (N+1), and even sometimes choose a (N) or (N+1) sequence that make cancelations possible, when there's choice. That's why methods based on many simple steps are not that slow, and the potential advantage of methods using a huge number of sequences is not as big as it seems to be. But with (OLL) and (PLL), I think there are too many cases. Long ago, when I was doing (corners orientatation) and (PLL), I tried to anticipate permutations too, and optimize some. With the full scope of OLLs, I hope you have courage and patience if you want to acquire enough knowledge to cover a significant part of them! FR-Gilles --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...> wrote: > > Hey everybody, > > I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a > part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of > OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the > execution. One of the nicest examples is: > > Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R > > OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. > > Notice after setup moves, the UFR, UBR and UR stickers have the same > color! They will all end up on the left side. If you recognise the > PLL in blocks, this will often give you a good clue about where one > of the 'blocks' might end up. > > At the same time, after the setup moves, the FLU and FU stickers are > the same.. They will end up on the R face. > > When I get this case, I can often use this to get a clue about what > kind of PLL it is... (Often I can exclude that it's an E > permuation :D). And I really feel that it speeds up the PLL > recognition... After the OLL, I can often adjust U exactly right > without looking. > > Another nice example you really should see is: > > Setup: r U2 R' U' R U' r'. > > Here, the UF and UFR stickers are the same.. Also the UBR/UR and > LU/LUF stickers. You can often see something comming here.. > > Well.. I hope someone likes this idea.. There are many more > examples.. It doesnt really take a long time to learn, because once > you have seen it once or twice, you know it... > > - Joël. >
3922. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 17:07:34 -0000

Good luck with your finals. What method are you gonna use. the one i used is my new method. Its totaly not the same as the method of stefan+mod Greets Alexander --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@...> wrote: > > Alex, > > Congrats! This means I have to come out of retirement. :P I just > need a couple more days. I finish finals on Monday. ;) > > ~ Bob > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > > I set it today on 2.49 > > > > Here is the Vid > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > > > Greets > > Alexander Ooms > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3923. Re: Re : [Speed cubing group] Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 17:17:46 -0000

Tnx for the compliment.It was a very great time at GCD.It has realy been fun. I have that puzzle for so long and played many times with it. i know 4 solutions/methods for the MM 3 i figger it out on my own the other solution is stefans method my last method came because of the Magic Ball's and all i did was trying to fit some trick of that puzzle in the MM and it works but backwards hehe :) its cool to see there are more solutions/method for solving the MM maybe there are more. greets Alexander --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tobias Daneels <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > Proficiat Alexander, > > it's really great to watch you solve a master magic. > You did it at the German cube day the first evening and I was very impressed. > > > ----- Message d'origine ---- > De : a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> > À : speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Envoyé le : Mercredi, 3 Mai 2006, 11h08mn 33s > Objet : [Speed cubing group] Master magic UWR single solve Broken. > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > I set it today on 2.49 > > Here is the Vid > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > Greets > Alexander Ooms > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3924. zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 19:34:39 +0100 (BST)

J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first ever meet of Indian cubers. John Louis --------------------------------- Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3925. Re: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 20:55:51 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: Joël van Noort To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition Hey everybody, I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the execution. One of the nicest examples is: Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. Joël. I´m sure I´m missing something here, but why not x´RUBU´B´R´ ? R SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3926. Re: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: Pedro <pedrosino1@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 16:57:09 -0300 (ART)

What was that alg supposed to do, Rune? Pedro Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> escreveu: ----- Original Message ----- From: Joël van Noort To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition Hey everybody, I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the execution. One of the nicest examples is: Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. Joël. I´m sure I´m missing something here, but why not x´RUBU´B´R´ ? R SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3927. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 20:23:02 -0000

Thanks, I may need it. For now, I suppose I will stick with the only method I know. :) ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Good luck with your finals. > > What method are you gonna use. > the one i used is my new method. > > Its totaly not the same as the method of stefan+mod > > Greets Alexander > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Burton" <bob@> > wrote: > > > > Alex, > > > > Congrats! This means I have to come out of retirement. :P I just > > need a couple more days. I finish finals on Monday. ;) > > > > ~ Bob > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > > > I set it today on 2.49 > > > > > > Here is the Vid > > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > > > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > > > > > Greets > > > Alexander Ooms > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
3928. Re: [Speed cubing group] Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 21:06:39 -0000

> I´m sure I´m missing something here, but why not x´RUBU´B´R´ ? > R Use the setup as a setup for the OLL.. Setup: R'U' FR'F'R U R. If you do it on a SOLVED cube, you should get a C shaped OLL. - Joël.
3929. Re: Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 21:10:29 -0000

Hey Gilles, To make this absolutely clear: I am not talking about recognising the WHOLE PLL during the OLL recognition... I don't think that would save me any time... I am talking about recognizing small blocks of the PLL. - Joël. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > A low number of cases in steps (N) and (N+1) allows you to anticipate > (N+1) at the beginning of (N) or while executing the sequence. > And with experience, you can anticipate move cancelations between (N) > and (N+1), and even sometimes choose a (N) or (N+1) sequence that make > cancelations possible, when there's choice. > > That's why methods based on many simple steps are not that slow, and > the potential advantage of methods using a huge number of sequences is > not as big as it seems to be. > > But with (OLL) and (PLL), I think there are too many cases. Long ago, > when I was doing (corners orientatation) and (PLL), I tried to > anticipate permutations too, and optimize some. With the full scope of > OLLs, I hope you have courage and patience if you want to acquire > enough knowledge to cover a significant part of them! > > FR-Gilles > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > Hey everybody, > > > > I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by recognising a > > part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a lot of > > OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the > > execution. One of the nicest examples is: > > > > Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R > > > > OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. > > > > Notice after setup moves, the UFR, UBR and UR stickers have the same > > color! They will all end up on the left side. If you recognise the > > PLL in blocks, this will often give you a good clue about where one > > of the 'blocks' might end up. > > > > At the same time, after the setup moves, the FLU and FU stickers are > > the same.. They will end up on the R face. > > > > When I get this case, I can often use this to get a clue about what > > kind of PLL it is... (Often I can exclude that it's an E > > permuation :D). And I really feel that it speeds up the PLL > > recognition... After the OLL, I can often adjust U exactly right > > without looking. > > > > Another nice example you really should see is: > > > > Setup: r U2 R' U' R U' r'. > > > > Here, the UF and UFR stickers are the same.. Also the UBR/UR and > > LU/LUF stickers. You can often see something comming here.. > > > > Well.. I hope someone likes this idea.. There are many more > > examples.. It doesnt really take a long time to learn, because once > > you have seen it once or twice, you know it... > > > > - Joël. > > >
3930. Re: [Speed cubing group] zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 03:22:04 +0530

Oh sure! Do let me know the details of ur trip and we'll surely arrange something out Sachin. On 5/5/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. > Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first ever meet of Indian cubers. > > John Louis > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3931. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Working on PLL recognition during OLL recognition
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 07:32:23 +0200

That's what I was talking about. ;-) But, well I didn't really train on this : I just noticed that when I see solved blocks on the OLL and if they are at the right position depending on the OLL, the block will be saved. But I only know the very basic cases... Gilles. 2006/5/4, Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>: > Hey Gilles, > > To make this absolutely clear: I am not talking about recognising > the WHOLE PLL during the OLL recognition... I don't think that would > save me any time... I am talking about recognizing small blocks of > the PLL. > > - Joël. > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Gilles Roux" > <grrroux@...> wrote: > > > > > > A low number of cases in steps (N) and (N+1) allows you to > anticipate > > (N+1) at the beginning of (N) or while executing the sequence. > > And with experience, you can anticipate move cancelations between > (N) > > and (N+1), and even sometimes choose a (N) or (N+1) sequence that > make > > cancelations possible, when there's choice. > > > > That's why methods based on many simple steps are not that slow, > and > > the potential advantage of methods using a huge number of > sequences is > > not as big as it seems to be. > > > > But with (OLL) and (PLL), I think there are too many cases. Long > ago, > > when I was doing (corners orientatation) and (PLL), I tried to > > anticipate permutations too, and optimize some. With the full > scope of > > OLLs, I hope you have courage and patience if you want to acquire > > enough knowledge to cover a significant part of them! > > > > FR-Gilles > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > > > Hey everybody, > > > > > > I have recenty been speeding up my PLL recognition by > recognising a > > > part of it during OLL recognition. It maybe doesnt work for a > lot of > > > OLLs, but with some OLLs, some stickers stay together during the > > > execution. One of the nicest examples is: > > > > > > Setup: R' U' F R' F' R U R > > > > > > OLL alg: R'U' R'FRF' U R. > > > > > > Notice after setup moves, the UFR, UBR and UR stickers have the > same > > > color! They will all end up on the left side. If you recognise > the > > > PLL in blocks, this will often give you a good clue about where > one > > > of the 'blocks' might end up. > > > > > > At the same time, after the setup moves, the FLU and FU stickers > are > > > the same.. They will end up on the R face. > > > > > > When I get this case, I can often use this to get a clue about > what > > > kind of PLL it is... (Often I can exclude that it's an E > > > permuation :D). And I really feel that it speeds up the PLL > > > recognition... After the OLL, I can often adjust U exactly right > > > without looking. > > > > > > Another nice example you really should see is: > > > > > > Setup: r U2 R' U' R U' r'. > > > > > > Here, the UF and UFR stickers are the same.. Also the UBR/UR and > > > LU/LUF stickers. You can often see something comming here.. > > > > > > Well.. I hope someone likes this idea.. There are many more > > > examples.. It doesnt really take a long time to learn, because > once > > > you have seen it once or twice, you know it... > > > > > > - Joël. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3932. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 14:28:02 -0000

Please stop it, Alexander. Just when I thought I won't waste time on this puzzle again, you come along with another great solution I have to practice. Darn. Got 3.84 today after about 50 minutes. Sub3 hopefully soon, my magic wastes a lot of time in the second half cause it's not used to the new method yet and does flips I don't want it to. .. Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > I set it today on 2.49 > > Here is the Vid > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > Greets > Alexander Ooms > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3933. Re: [Speed cubing group] zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may
From: "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 03:10:33 -0000

Is it on the 27th of May? That stinks, I don't have Zee tv, do you know if they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony? That stinks the one channel I don't have...:( :( :( :( --Zarqa-- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...> wrote: > > Oh sure! > > Do let me know the details of ur trip and we'll surely arrange something out > > Sachin. > > On 5/5/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. > > Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first ever meet of Indian cubers. > > > > John Louis > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3934. Re: [Speed cubing group] zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 05:20:26 +0100 (BST)

I don't think they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony. The recording is on 27th May and not telecast which will be announced later. John Louis zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> wrote: Is it on the 27th of May? That stinks, I don't have Zee tv, do you know if they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony? That stinks the one channel I don't have...:( :( :( :( --Zarqa-- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...> wrote: > > Oh sure! > > Do let me know the details of ur trip and we'll surely arrange something out > > Sachin. > > On 5/5/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. > > Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first ever meet of Indian cubers. > > > > John Louis > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3935. Re: [Speed cubing group] zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may
From: "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 10:25:48 +0530

Dont worry. I'll try my best to record it. I think the telecast will be after a week or so. Sachin. On 5/6/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > I don't think they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony. The recording is on 27th May and not telecast which will be announced later. > > John Louis > > zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> wrote: > Is it on the 27th of May? That stinks, I don't have Zee tv, do you > know if they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony? That stinks the > one channel I don't have...:( :( :( :( > > --Zarqa-- > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" > <sachinss@...> wrote: > > > > Oh sure! > > > > Do let me know the details of ur trip and we'll surely arrange > something out > > > > Sachin. > > > > On 5/5/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > > J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are > invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The > recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park > etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th > may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. > > > Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? > Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first > ever meet of Indian cubers. > > > > > > John Louis > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. > Click here > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > --------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
3936. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Bob Burton" <bob@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 14:32:12 -0000

Hrmm...is there a video of this method online anywhere? I wanna try! :P ~ Bob --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...> wrote: > > Please stop it, Alexander. Just when I thought I won't waste time on > this puzzle again, you come along with another great solution I have > to practice. Darn. Got 3.84 today after about 50 minutes. Sub3 > hopefully soon, my magic wastes a lot of time in the second half cause > it's not used to the new method yet and does flips I don't want it to. > .. > > Cheers! > Stefan > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@> > wrote: > > > > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > > I set it today on 2.49 > > > > Here is the Vid > > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > > > Greets > > Alexander Ooms > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
3937. About the cross
From: "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 14:41:07 -0000

Hi, When counting the number of moves in some system, STM is almost always presupposed. At the same time the number of moves required for the cross, (which is "full of" slice moves) is - as far as I know - only calculated in HTM. It would be interesting to get to know the distribution of the number of moves required in STM. R
3938. Re: About the cross
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 15:10:51 -0000

Actually, most methods assume HTM, and in the cross, who uses slices?!?!?! I never do...but w/e... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Hi, > When counting the number of moves in some system, STM is almost always > presupposed. At the same time the number of moves required for the > cross, (which is "full of" slice moves) is - as far as I know - only > calculated in HTM. It would be interesting to get to know the > distribution of the number of moves required in STM. > R >
3939. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 17:24:05 +0200

Then yoy are silly, Craig! Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Bouchard To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross Actually, most methods assume HTM, and in the cross, who uses slices?!?!?! I never do...but w/e... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > Hi, > When counting the number of moves in some system, STM is almost always > presupposed. At the same time the number of moves required for the > cross, (which is "full of" slice moves) is - as far as I know - only > calculated in HTM. It would be interesting to get to know the > distribution of the number of moves required in STM. > R > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3940. Re: About the cross
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 15:35:06 -0000

You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Actually, most methods assume HTM, and in the cross, who uses > slices?!?!?! I never do...but w/e... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > When counting the number of moves in some system, STM is almost always > > presupposed. At the same time the number of moves required for the > > cross, (which is "full of" slice moves) is - as far as I know - only > > calculated in HTM. It would be interesting to get to know the > > distribution of the number of moves required in STM. > > R > > >
3941. Re: About the cross
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 15:52:19 -0000

yes I do LR', but I'd never do M' for that, cuz then I'd have to do M' x' to put my cross back on bottom, instead of F... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? > > Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) > > ~Thom
3942. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 18:13:19 +0200

But if that is the very beginning, turn the cube in that way, so the cross after M´ will be at the bottom! ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Bouchard To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross yes I do LR', but I'd never do M' for that, cuz then I'd have to do M' x' to put my cross back on bottom, instead of F... Craig --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? > > Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) > > ~Thom SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3943. Re: About the cross
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 16:25:11 -0000

LR' == slice move. so you do do them... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > yes I do LR', but I'd never do M' for that, cuz then I'd have to do M' > x' to put my cross back on bottom, instead of F... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? > > > > Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) > > > > ~Thom >
3944. Re: About the cross
From: "athefre" <athefre@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 16:52:14 -0000

I've always thought that LR' wasn't a complete slice until you do x/x'. Maybe I see things differently but when I do LR', my M edges don't move at all. Thom, did you get my last email? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...> wrote: > > LR' == slice move. so you do do them... > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > yes I do LR', but I'd never do M' for that, cuz then I'd have to do M' > > x' to put my cross back on bottom, instead of F... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? > > > > > > Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) > > > > > > ~Thom > > >
3945. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 18:56:01 +0200

LR´ is *not* a slice move. It´s L followed by R´. The slice move is M´. ----- Original Message ----- From: thomkirjava To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross LR' == slice move. so you do do them... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > yes I do LR', but I'd never do M' for that, cuz then I'd have to do M' > x' to put my cross back on bottom, instead of F... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? > > > > Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) > > > > ~Thom > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3946. Re: About the cross
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 17:03:20 -0000

Slice moves (actual slice moves) come in handy when part of the cross is already built on another face. Say three pieces of the cross are built on the R face. I would do z as my cube rotation before I start and then do M' E M to place the cross center inside the cross. I've even had solves where the cross was entirely and correctly built but on the wrong face, and that trick works really well too. It's a 3 move cross if you count in STM, and the moves are all pretty quick too. Just my two cents, Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > LR´ is *not* a slice move. It´s L followed by R´. The slice move is M´. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: thomkirjava > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:25 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross > > > LR' == slice move. so you do do them... >
3947. Re: [Speed cubing group] Rutgers Spring 2006
From: "David Barr" <david20708@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 13:48:44 -0400

I've uploaded the pictures that I took here: http://puzzlingaddiction.com/pics/rutgers-spring-2006/
3948. Re: About the cross
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 17:59:37 -0000

Hi Rune Assuming that you want the cross to have a definite orientation (so only one "solved" position), I find depth: # positions 0: 1 1: 21 2: 275 3: 2815 4: 21136 5: 88454 6: 76592 7: 786 in SHTM. Average is 5.27, compared with 5.81 (HTM). I used Jaap's solver for this. Mike
3949. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 20:37:34 +0200

Thank you, Mike! No 8-movers! (There is a lot of "hidden" slices moves here. E.g if you take up UR by R and UL by L'U'F, you are missing a 3-mover in STM). Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: mike_go_uk To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:59 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross Hi Rune Assuming that you want the cross to have a definite orientation (so only one "solved" position), I find depth: # positions 0: 1 1: 21 2: 275 3: 2815 4: 21136 5: 88454 6: 76592 7: 786 in SHTM. Average is 5.27, compared with 5.81 (HTM). I used Jaap's solver for this. Mike SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3950. Re: About the cross
From: "Per Kristen Fredlund" <aspiring_to_love@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 06 May 2006 23:13:58 -0000

Hi :-) Any speedsolving method doesn't assume any particular turn metric ;-) The only applicable metric is time :D (Fewest moves is another matter however ... ok don't start a discussion on fewest moves turn metric pls! :-P ) My 2 cents ! -Per > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...> wrote: > > Actually, most methods assume HTM, and in the cross, who uses > slices?!?!?! I never do...but w/e... > > Craig > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > When counting the number of moves in some system, STM is almost always > > presupposed. At the same time the number of moves required for the > > cross, (which is "full of" slice moves) is - as far as I know - only > > calculated in HTM. It would be interesting to get to know the > > distribution of the number of moves required in STM. > > R > > >
3951. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 00:06:05 -0000

All of your accomplishments at MM have made me want to start working on it. One problem, though...I don't own a master magic. Does anyone know of a website/store where I can purchase one? I know ebay's an option, but there's none for sale there right now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Tim Reynolds --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > I set it today on 2.49 > > Here is the Vid > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > Greets > Alexander Ooms > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3952. Re: A nice forum...
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 00:22:58 -0000

Just in case there are others like me who until now didn't notice this new forum has become quite successful by now: have a look at it (the rubiks.has.it one). Cheers! Stefan --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, broncoviper <no_reply@. ..> wrote: > > Here is what the forums looks like: > http://rubiks.has.it > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Joël van Noort > <joel_vn@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello speedcubing friends, > > > > This is just a proposal, to see if anyone agrees with me. Most > > conversations between speedcubers are probably done online. That's > > why a discussion group or forum is very valueable for the > > speedcubing community. However, I must say, I don't really enjoy > > posting on this yahoo group. It's not very organized, the replies on > > one specific topic are hard to find, there are too many ads etc. I > > also heard another cuber say he would post more if there was a > > better forum. I think I would also have a lot more fun posting on a > > speedcubing forum if we just had a good looking, organized forum. > > For an example, take a look at this forum: > > http://www.phpbb.com/styles/demo.php. > > > > As an example of what I have in mind, I have been fooling around > > with this free forum today: http://speedcubing.proboards20.com/. > > > > DON'T get me wrong! I don't want everybody to agree with me, of > > course. If you really like this yahoo group, that's fine with me.. . > > I am just interested in your opinion! Am I the only one used to nice > > forums? :) > > > > I am also not saying that the example I made is perfect, but it's > > just an example. > > > > Happy cubing, > > > > Joël. > > >
3953. ! HELP ! I broke my pocket cube
From: casey_drummer <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 00:24:34 -0000

Could anyone point me towards a resource that can help me put my 2x2x2 back together. (not solve, literally put it together) My lil bro completely disassembled it!
3954. Re: [Speed cubing group] zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may
From: "zarqa156" <zarqa156@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 01:00:06 -0000

Oh well, I was hoping to watch it, but I'll live. :) --Zarqa-- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...> wrote: > > Dont worry. I'll try my best to record it. I think the telecast will > be after a week or so. > > Sachin. > > On 5/6/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > I don't think they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony. The recording is on 27th May and not telecast which will be announced later. > > > > John Louis > > > > zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> wrote: > > Is it on the 27th of May? That stinks, I don't have Zee tv, do you > > know if they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony? That stinks the > > one channel I don't have...:( :( :( :( > > > > --Zarqa-- > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" > > <sachinss@> wrote: > > > > > > Oh sure! > > > > > > Do let me know the details of ur trip and we'll surely arrange > > something out > > > > > > Sachin. > > > > > > On 5/5/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are > > invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The > > recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park > > etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th > > may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. > > > > Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? > > Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first > > ever meet of Indian cubers. > > > > > > > > John Louis > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. > > Click here > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
3955. COLL
From: Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 18:42:30 -0700 (PDT)

ok who has a good alg for the COLL case that is a double sune, and with the toes toward/away from you, you, one verticle group will be the same color, and the others will be opposites of each other ( and not the same opposite group as the first, ie: if the ones that match are both blue, the others are red/orange) ----- Original Message ---- From: zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 6, 2006 6:00:06 PM Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] zee tv studio interview in bombay on 27th may Oh well, I was hoping to watch it, but I'll live. :) --Zarqa-- --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" <sachinss@...> wrote: > > Dont worry. I'll try my best to record it. I think the telecast will > be after a week or so. > > Sachin. > > On 5/6/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...> wrote: > > I don't think they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony. The recording is on 27th May and not telecast which will be announced later. > > > > John Louis > > > > zarqa156 <zarqa156@...> wrote: > > Is it on the 27th of May? That stinks, I don't have Zee tv, do you > > know if they might play it on Tv Asia, Geo or Sony? That stinks the > > one channel I don't have...:( :( :( :( > > > > --Zarqa-- > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Sachin Shirwalkar" > > <sachinss@> wrote: > > > > > > Oh sure! > > > > > > Do let me know the details of ur trip and we'll surely arrange > > something out > > > > > > Sachin. > > > > > > On 5/5/06, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@> wrote: > > > > J.Bernett Orlando for cubing and myself for memory skills are > > invited to bombay for a studio interview on 27th by ZEE tv. The > > recording was done at my residence, Bernett's school, in a public park > > etc in dec-2005. In addition the studio interview will be held on 27th > > may in bombay. Bombay is 2000 km away from my home town Trichy. > > > > Is there any cuber in this group from Bombay other than Sachin ? > > Bernett would love to meet Sachin and co. Perhaps it will be the first > > ever meet of Indian cubers. > > > > > > > > John Louis > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. > > Click here > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > > --------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3956. 2x2x2 Eastsheen
From: Jeremy Fleischman <jeremyfleischman@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 19:41:34 -0700 (PDT)

Can anyone help me put a 2x2x2 Eastsheen I took apart back together? I can get most of the way there, but I don't know how to fit the last corner in. Jeremy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3957. Re: COLL
From: "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 03:16:21 -0000

>From a different angle. Leyan's alg: F-RU'R'URU2'R'U'RUR'U'-F' Enjoy, Macky --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran <perscription_death@...> wrote: > > ok who has a good alg for the COLL case that is a double sune, and with the toes toward/away from you, you, one verticle group will be the same color, and the others will be opposites of each other ( and not the same opposite group as the first, ie: if the ones that match are both blue, the others are red/orange)
3958. Belgian open -2006
From: JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 05:31:28 +0100 (BST)

Congrats to Joel for winning 333. It is heartening to note 2 world records and 1 europian record tumbled. Congrats to Ron and Lars Vandenberg. John Louis --------------------------------- Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3959. Re: COLL
From: "Gilles Roux" <grrroux@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 05:10:20 -0000

Or combine two famous OLL sequences: (fRUR'U'f') (R'U'RUx'RU'R'Ux) Only 14 QTM, but not faster. Gilles. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "mackymakisumi" <mackymakisumi@...> wrote: > > From a different angle. > Leyan's alg: F-RU'R'URU2'R'U'RUR'U'-F' > > Enjoy, > Macky > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Clancy Cochran > <perscription_death@> wrote: > > > > ok who has a good alg for the COLL case that is a double sune, and > with the toes toward/away from you, you, one verticle group will be > the same color, and the others will be opposites of each other ( and > not the same opposite group as the first, ie: if the ones that match > are both blue, the others are red/orange) >
3960. [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: "thomkirjava" <snkenjoi@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 12:38:31 -0000

In STM, LR' == 1 move, right? If not, I accept I'm wrong. Otherwise, it's a slice move :) ~Thom --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > LR´ is *not* a slice move. It´s L followed by R´. The slice move is M´. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: thomkirjava > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:25 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross > > > LR' == slice move. so you do do them... > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Bouchard" > <logitewty@> wrote: > > > > yes I do LR', but I'd never do M' for that, cuz then I'd have to do M' > > x' to put my cross back on bottom, instead of F... > > > > Craig > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "thomkirjava" > > <snkenjoi@> wrote: > > > > > > You never do anything like LR' to place two pieces? > > > > > > Three question marks and three exclamation marks. :) > > > > > > ~Thom > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3961. Re: [Speed cubing group] Belgian open -2006
From: "Gilles van den Peereboom" <gillesvdp@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 15:00:31 +0200

Hello there, Here is the video of our appearance in the news (in French) : http://www.belgiancubes.be/videos/BelgianOpen2006-RTBF.avi I also wrote a report and posted some pictures over here : http://www.belgiancubes.be/pictures/BelgianOpen2006/ (I also updated the pages for those of you who had problems with the German Open pictures.) It was great to see veryone and to run my first competition :-) See you ! Gilles. 2006/5/7, JohnLouis Louis <pjlmem@...>: > Congrats to Joel for winning 333. > It is heartening to note 2 world records and 1 europian record tumbled. Congrats to Ron and Lars Vandenberg. > > John Louis > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new. Click here > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
3962. Sunday Contest.
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 13:05:02 -0000

Of all of the days for the Sunday Contest page to go down it had to be today... Sunday and I'm away for the weekend. Luckily I have the scrambles with me... Here they are: 1. L U' F' U2 L R' D U2 B' L D F' R2 L F D U' F L2 U2 F' B2 L B R 2. D F U R2 B2 L' B' R2 B2 R2 D L' U2 L U B D2 R2 D U' L' U' F' L' D' 3. B F U2 B' F' U2 R' U2 B U' B2 U2 B L D F B' R' L2 F D2 L' U F' R2 4. F' D' B F D' R' L2 D2 L2 U' F U F2 L2 U R F2 U2 R2 F2 D F R2 U2 L2 5. F B' U' R' B' L2 F' B2 R2 U L2 D' U' R2 D2 F B2 D B' L' D' B2 R' F2 D2 6. L' D' L2 U2 L R2 B' U B2 D' R' D2 L2 R B2 U2 F2 L B' D F' L' U2 R' U2 7. L' D2 U2 F' D2 R2 L' D U' L' B' U' D' R' B2 R2 B L' F' R D U F D L2 8. D L F B2 U2 L' R2 U2 D' B2 D2 B' R2 F2 D U R' D' R2 B2 U' B D R2 B2 9. U' L' B F D U B' D' L' U2 B' F2 U2 R F2 R' U' F B D2 F2 U' L' D2 L' 10. U L2 D' F' U' F2 R' L' U2 D' R2 L' D2 U F2 D R' B2 R' L2 U2 F2 R2 F L2 11. B' F2 D U2 F' D' U' F' U' B2 R2 U2 B2 U' F B2 U B F R2 U' B' D' F2 R2 12. B' D F2 D' F R B R F' D2 U2 L2 B U' F2 D' R B2 F2 U' D L B' R' L' 13. B' R2 D' R2 U2 F U2 R L U2 L2 F B' D' U2 L2 D2 F2 D U2 L2 D2 L' F' D Sorry about the inconvenience. I'll get to the bottom of this when I return home later in the week. Jon
3963. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 15:05:26 +0200

----- Original Message ----- From: thomkirjava To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:38 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross In STM, LR' == 1 move, right? If not, I accept I'm wrong. Otherwise, it's a slice move :) ~Thom May Per solve that problem! SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3964. Re: ! HELP ! I broke my pocket cube
From: pjgat09 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 13:09:56 -0000

If it is a Rubik's, use my page: http://geocities.com/pjgat09/misc2a_2.html Good luck! Peter Greenwood --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, casey_drummer <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Could anyone point me towards a resource that can help me put my > 2x2x2 back together. (not solve, literally put it together) My lil > bro completely disassembled it! >
3965. [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross
From: "Craig Bouchard" <logitewty@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 14:02:27 -0000

In STM 1 move = M', that same moved, described using LR' would be LR'x So it is your decision if LR'x is one move or not... --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: thomkirjava > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:38 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: About the cross > > > In STM, LR' == 1 move, right? > > If not, I accept I'm wrong. Otherwise, it's a slice move :) > > ~Thom > > May Per solve that problem! > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3966. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "David Barr" <david20708@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 14:15:21 -0400

On 5/6/06, Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > One problem, though...I don't own a master magic. Does anyone know > of a website/store where I can purchase one? I know ebay's an > option, but there's none for sale there right now. Any advice would > be greatly appreciated. Buy two regular Rubik's Magics from rubiks.com and use the instructions on Jaap's puzzle page (http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/puzzles/magic.htm) to make a Master Magic out of their parts. Also, I'd recommend not getting the Simpsons or Harry Potter version of the magic puzzles, because the plastic tiles in those puzzles are thinner than the standard version, and a Master Magic made from these puzzles will tend to not lay as flat when solved. This could potentially disqualify you if you are trying to solve by the WCA regulations.
3967. SUB 20 FINALLY ACHIEVED.....
From: "chrisbcubing" <chrisbcubing@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 19:23:22 -0000

Hi all i finally broke the 20 second average barrier... single times are 19.59 (17.72) 18.95 22.80 18.45 17.99 19.32 (25.71) 21.69 19.52 18.40 21.96 average: 19.87 the method i used was pure CFOP no lucky solves in this average... i just decided to sit down and focus.. I have to give props to Chris Hardwick for teaching me F2L and giving me confidence throughout my time cubing... now time to catch stefan pochmann on megaminx PB single solve 1:49.xx average 2:16.xx lata chris brownlee
3968. Re: Sunday Contest.
From: "devlish_cuber" <pdouthwright0513@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 19:44:28 -0000

How do we submit our times? --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Of all of the days for the Sunday Contest page to go down it had to > be today... Sunday and I'm away for the weekend. Luckily I have > the scrambles with me... Here they are: > > 1. L U' F' U2 L R' D U2 B' L D F' R2 L F D U' F L2 U2 F' B2 L B R > 2. D F U R2 B2 L' B' R2 B2 R2 D L' U2 L U B D2 R2 D U' L' U' F' L' D' > 3. B F U2 B' F' U2 R' U2 B U' B2 U2 B L D F B' R' L2 F D2 L' U F' R2 > 4. F' D' B F D' R' L2 D2 L2 U' F U F2 L2 U R F2 U2 R2 F2 D F R2 U2 L2 > 5. F B' U' R' B' L2 F' B2 R2 U L2 D' U' R2 D2 F B2 D B' L' D' B2 R' > F2 D2 > 6. L' D' L2 U2 L R2 B' U B2 D' R' D2 L2 R B2 U2 F2 L B' D F' L' U2 > R' U2 > 7. L' D2 U2 F' D2 R2 L' D U' L' B' U' D' R' B2 R2 B L' F' R D U F D > L2 > 8. D L F B2 U2 L' R2 U2 D' B2 D2 B' R2 F2 D U R' D' R2 B2 U' B D R2 > B2 > 9. U' L' B F D U B' D' L' U2 B' F2 U2 R F2 R' U' F B D2 F2 U' L' D2 > L' > 10. U L2 D' F' U' F2 R' L' U2 D' R2 L' D2 U F2 D R' B2 R' L2 U2 F2 > R2 F L2 > 11. B' F2 D U2 F' D' U' F' U' B2 R2 U2 B2 U' F B2 U B F R2 U' B' D' > F2 R2 > 12. B' D F2 D' F R B R F' D2 U2 L2 B U' F2 D' R B2 F2 U' D L B' R' L' > 13. B' R2 D' R2 U2 F U2 R L U2 L2 F B' D' U2 L2 D2 F2 D U2 L2 D2 L' > F' D > > > Sorry about the inconvenience. I'll get to the bottom of this when > I return home later in the week. > > Jon >
3969. Re: Sunday Contest.
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:03:57 -0000

> > How do we submit our times? > As usual submit your times in the following format to nascarjon(at) gmail(dot)com . Name Average Idividual times Quote Thanks, Jon
3970. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: adam kiss <master_bater_0000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 14:01:43 -0700 (PDT)

thats awesome!! im Hungarian, so the rubik's cube is a big part of my history. i would love to own a sigend cube by the man himself. that would be the greatest item i have ever bought :D do you still have the signed cube? could i please buy it?? send me a response to jackassinthebox04@... please, thats my other email adress. THANKS A LOT! Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: Hi all, This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq and feel free to ask any questions. /Gustav --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3971. Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: a_ooms75 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 21:05:06 -0000

Here is how i do it: http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MMAO.html <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MMAO.html> greets Alexander --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, a_ooms75 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > Broke the single MM UWR of 2.53 from BOB burton. > I set it today on 2.49 > > Here is the Vid > http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv > <http://members.chello.nl/~a.ooms4/MM249.wmv> > > Greets > Alexander Ooms > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3972. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 23:33:48 +0200

:) It is awesome. Thats why I'm keeping one for myself. The auction is still up for almost 5 more days so do bid on it if you really wan't it. I can't/won't end the auction early to sell it directly, because that would be unfair towards the other bidders. /Gustav adam kiss skrev: >thats awesome!! im Hungarian, so the rubik's cube is a big part of my history. i would love to own a sigend cube by the man himself. that would be the greatest item i have ever bought :D > >do you still have the signed cube? could i please buy it?? > >send me a response to jackassinthebox04@... please, thats my other email adress. > >THANKS A LOT! > >Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: Hi all, > > This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a > Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by > Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq > and feel free to ask any questions. > > /Gustav > > >--------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > > > >
3973. [Speed cubing group] Re: Master magic UWR single solve Broken.
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 22:10:50 -0000

Thanks. Fortunately I had a few extra magics lying around. Three broken strings + many frustrating hours later, I'm done. After about 10 solves, my best time's around 13.42 seconds. It'll be a little while till I catch up to Alexander. Tim Reynolds --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "David Barr" <david20708@...> wrote: > > On 5/6/06, Tim Reynolds <timothy.reynolds2@...> wrote: > > One problem, though...I don't own a master magic. Does anyone know > > of a website/store where I can purchase one? I know ebay's an > > option, but there's none for sale there right now. Any advice would > > be greatly appreciated. > > Buy two regular Rubik's Magics from rubiks.com and use the > instructions on Jaap's puzzle page > (http://www.geocities.com/jaapsch/puzzles/magic.htm) to make a Master > Magic out of their parts. Also, I'd recommend not getting the > Simpsons or Harry Potter version of the magic puzzles, because the > plastic tiles in those puzzles are thinner than the standard version, > and a Master Magic made from these puzzles will tend to not lay as > flat when solved. This could potentially disqualify you if you are > trying to solve by the WCA regulations. >
3974. Re: Sunday Contest.
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 23:31:01 -0000

Hello again everyone, I think that i might have had a little problem and deleted all of the Sunday Contest entries that I recieved on Saturday up until Sunday evening. Anyone who submitted times during that period should resend them if possible. I'm sorry for all of the problems this week. It just hasn't been a great week :( Jon --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > > > How do we submit our times? > > > > > As usual submit your times in the following format to nascarjon(at) > gmail(dot)com . > > Name > Average > Idividual times > Quote > > Thanks, > Jon >
3975. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: adam kiss <master_bater_0000@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 16:49:02 -0700 (PDT)

could u send me a link to the auction? i couldnt find it. i understand why you cant end it, ur right, it would be unfair. im going to hungary to visit this summer, so im going to meet erno. i know where he lives, so ill gety some signed, and hopefully even solve it with him :D!! ill take pics and show everyone :D Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: :) It is awesome. Thats why I'm keeping one for myself. The auction is still up for almost 5 more days so do bid on it if you really wan't it. I can't/won't end the auction early to sell it directly, because that would be unfair towards the other bidders. /Gustav adam kiss skrev: >thats awesome!! im Hungarian, so the rubik's cube is a big part of my history. i would love to own a sigend cube by the man himself. that would be the greatest item i have ever bought :D > >do you still have the signed cube? could i please buy it?? > >send me a response to jackassinthebox04@... please, thats my other email adress. > >THANKS A LOT! > >Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: Hi all, > > This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a > Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by > Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq > and feel free to ask any questions. > > /Gustav > > >--------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3976. Re: [Speed cubing group] Cube signed by Erno Rubik and a rare Domino on eBay
From: Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 02:26:15 +0200

Both my auctions should be visible through this link: http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq Good luck on getting to meet Erno. From what I've read though, he's a bit of a loner. /Gustav adam kiss skrev: >could u send me a link to the auction? i couldnt find it. i understand why you cant end it, ur right, it would be unfair. im going to hungary to visit this summer, so im going to meet erno. i know where he lives, so ill gety some signed, and hopefully even solve it with him :D!! ill take pics and show everyone :D > >Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: :) It is awesome. Thats why I'm keeping one for myself. The auction is > still up for almost 5 more days so do bid on it if you really wan't it. > I can't/won't end the auction early to sell it directly, because that > would be unfair towards the other bidders. > > /Gustav > > adam kiss skrev: > > >thats awesome!! im Hungarian, so the rubik's cube is a big part of my history. i would love to own a sigend cube by the man himself. that would be the greatest item i have ever bought :D > > > >do you still have the signed cube? could i please buy it?? > > > >send me a response to jackassinthebox04@... please, thats my other email adress. > > > >THANKS A LOT! > > > >Gustav Fredell <gufr5747@...> wrote: Hi all, > > > > This is a bit of shameless self-promotion, but at the moment I have a > > Studio Cube signed by Erno Rubik and an unusual Domino clone by > > Wonderful Puzzler on eBay. You'll find them on http://tinyurl.com/ejxfq > > and feel free to ask any questions. > > > > /Gustav > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------- > >Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > > > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >http://www.nod32.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > >--------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2�/min or less. > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >__________ NOD32 1.1454 (20060321) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.nod32.com > > > > >
3977. Re: Sunday Contest. (website down?)
From: "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 01:19:10 -0000

Hey Jon -- I can't get to the Sunday Contest website (www.nascarjon.us/sunday.htm) - is the web server down? If the website is down, could you post the scrambles here for this week's contest (due Sunday, May 7) Thanks! yeff --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > Hello again everyone, > > I think that i might have had a little problem and deleted all of > the Sunday Contest entries that I recieved on Saturday up until > Sunday evening. Anyone who submitted times during that period > should resend them if possible. > > I'm sorry for all of the problems this week. It just hasn't been a > great week :( > > Jon > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > How do we submit our times? > > > > > > > > > As usual submit your times in the following format to nascarjon (at) > > gmail(dot)com . > > > > Name > > Average > > Idividual times > > Quote > > > > Thanks, > > Jon > > >
3978. Re: Sunday Contest. (website down?)
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 01:35:29 -0000

http://tinyurl.com/z58o3 Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "Jeff Soesbe" <yeff@...> wrote: > > Hey Jon -- > > I can't get to the Sunday Contest website > (www.nascarjon.us/sunday.htm) - is the web server down? > > If the website is down, could you post the scrambles here for this > week's contest (due Sunday, May 7) > > Thanks! > > yeff > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hello again everyone, > > > > I think that i might have had a little problem and deleted all of > > the Sunday Contest entries that I recieved on Saturday up until > > Sunday evening. Anyone who submitted times during that period > > should resend them if possible. > > > > I'm sorry for all of the problems this week. It just hasn't been > a > > great week :( > > > > Jon > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, nascarjon2001 > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we submit our times? > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual submit your times in the following format to nascarjon > (at) > > > gmail(dot)com . > > > > > > Name > > > Average > > > Idividual times > > > Quote > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jon > > > > > >
3979. Gone for a while
From: "Frank" <ephem825@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 03:43:45 -0000

Hey all, If anyone cares, I will be gone for the next 3 weeks. My wife Christy and I are taking our belated honeymoon to Greece.. I very long overdue vacation in my eyes... Plus a little business to tend to in Athens... Take care everyone, Frank
3980. Re: [Speed cubing group] Sunday Contest.
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 21:16:14 -0700 (PDT)

Name: David Pritts Country: USA Average: 43.87 Times: 40.00, 42.14, 53.78, 45.17, 40.72, (57.88), (POP), 45.39, 41.14, 47.08, 44.03, 39.27, (39.06) Comment: Very little 3x3 practice this week, but I'm happy with these times... a little improvement since last week anyways. nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Of all of the days for the Sunday Contest page to go down it had to be today... Sunday and I'm away for the weekend. Luckily I have the scrambles with me... Here they are: 1. L U' F' U2 L R' D U2 B' L D F' R2 L F D U' F L2 U2 F' B2 L B R 2. D F U R2 B2 L' B' R2 B2 R2 D L' U2 L U B D2 R2 D U' L' U' F' L' D' 3. B F U2 B' F' U2 R' U2 B U' B2 U2 B L D F B' R' L2 F D2 L' U F' R2 4. F' D' B F D' R' L2 D2 L2 U' F U F2 L2 U R F2 U2 R2 F2 D F R2 U2 L2 5. F B' U' R' B' L2 F' B2 R2 U L2 D' U' R2 D2 F B2 D B' L' D' B2 R' F2 D2 6. L' D' L2 U2 L R2 B' U B2 D' R' D2 L2 R B2 U2 F2 L B' D F' L' U2 R' U2 7. L' D2 U2 F' D2 R2 L' D U' L' B' U' D' R' B2 R2 B L' F' R D U F D L2 8. D L F B2 U2 L' R2 U2 D' B2 D2 B' R2 F2 D U R' D' R2 B2 U' B D R2 B2 9. U' L' B F D U B' D' L' U2 B' F2 U2 R F2 R' U' F B D2 F2 U' L' D2 L' 10. U L2 D' F' U' F2 R' L' U2 D' R2 L' D2 U F2 D R' B2 R' L2 U2 F2 R2 F L2 11. B' F2 D U2 F' D' U' F' U' B2 R2 U2 B2 U' F B2 U B F R2 U' B' D' F2 R2 12. B' D F2 D' F R B R F' D2 U2 L2 B U' F2 D' R B2 F2 U' D L B' R' L' 13. B' R2 D' R2 U2 F U2 R L U2 L2 F B' D' U2 L2 D2 F2 D U2 L2 D2 L' F' D Sorry about the inconvenience. I'll get to the bottom of this when I return home later in the week. Jon SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3981. Re: Sunday contest [[ignore my previous message, sorry]]
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 21:17:32 -0700 (PDT)

Hit reply button.. meant to reply to Jon, but it replied to whole group.. lol. Name: David Pritts Country: USA Average: 43.87 Times: 40.00, 42.14, 53.78, 45.17, 40.72, (57.88), (POP), 45.39, 41.14, 47.08, 44.03, 39.27, (39.06) Comment: Very little 3x3 practice this week, but I'm happy with these times... a little improvement since last week anyways. nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Of all of the days for the Sunday Contest page to go down it had to be today... Sunday and I'm away for the weekend. Luckily I have the scrambles with me... Here they are: 1. L U' F' U2 L R' D U2 B' L D F' R2 L F D U' F L2 U2 F' B2 L B R 2. D F U R2 B2 L' B' R2 B2 R2 D L' U2 L U B D2 R2 D U' L' U' F' L' D' 3. B F U2 B' F' U2 R' U2 B U' B2 U2 B L D F B' R' L2 F D2 L' U F' R2 4. F' D' B F D' R' L2 D2 L2 U' F U F2 L2 U R F2 U2 R2 F2 D F R2 U2 L2 5. F B' U' R' B' L2 F' B2 R2 U L2 D' U' R2 D2 F B2 D B' L' D' B2 R' F2 D2 6. L' D' L2 U2 L R2 B' U B2 D' R' D2 L2 R B2 U2 F2 L B' D F' L' U2 R' U2 7. L' D2 U2 F' D2 R2 L' D U' L' B' U' D' R' B2 R2 B L' F' R D U F D L2 8. D L F B2 U2 L' R2 U2 D' B2 D2 B' R2 F2 D U R' D' R2 B2 U' B D R2 B2 9. U' L' B F D U B' D' L' U2 B' F2 U2 R F2 R' U' F B D2 F2 U' L' D2 L' 10. U L2 D' F' U' F2 R' L' U2 D' R2 L' D2 U F2 D R' B2 R' L2 U2 F2 R2 F L2 11. B' F2 D U2 F' D' U' F' U' B2 R2 U2 B2 U' F B2 U B F R2 U' B' D' F2 R2 12. B' D F2 D' F R B R F' D2 U2 L2 B U' F2 D' R B2 F2 U' D L B' R' L' 13. B' R2 D' R2 U2 F U2 R L U2 L2 F B' D' U2 L2 D2 F2 D U2 L2 D2 L' F' D Sorry about the inconvenience. I'll get to the bottom of this when I return home later in the week. Jon SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3982. Show us your character
From: "Daniel Hayes" <swedishlf@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 07:16:39 -0000

Tyson, just saw your "show us your character" commercial (2:15 AM Central on USA) Nice solve, and a well executed commercial. Do you have a copy of it you could post? Congrats man :) -Daniel
3983. help
From: "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 08:49:28 -0000

I´m looking out for some #message at speedsolvingrubikscube and therefore write that number in the square to the left. After "GO" I (always) get the error message "Python...". Does that happen only to me? R
3984. Re: help
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 10:30:13 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > I´m looking out for some #message at speedsolvingrubikscube and > therefore write that number in the square to the left. After "GO" I > (always) get the error message "Python...". Does that happen only to me? I also get a python error. Mike
3985. Re: Sunday contest
From: nascarjon2001 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 12:48:33 -0000

I'm happy to report that the Sunday Contest site is back up and running. I guess my webhost had a hard drive failure! Jon http://www.nascarjon.us
3986. Pics of the German Cube Day 2006
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 13:13:57 -0000

Hey everybody, I finally posted my pictures of the German Cube Day 2006. Well, not many pics from the actual competition, but a lot of pictures of the surrounding days. It gives a good impression of the great time I had. Check it out at www.solvethecube.co.uk. - Joël.
3987. Re: help
From: Joël van Noort <joel_vn@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 13:16:07 -0000

I tried a few times, but no problems here so far :) --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > I´m looking out for some #message at speedsolvingrubikscube and > > therefore write that number in the square to the left. After "GO" I > > (always) get the error message "Python...". Does that happen only to > me? > > I also get a python error. > > Mike >
3988. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: help
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 15:34:59 +0200

I´m glad for that. (I always think it´s me not understanding things). Btw, I´m looking for the distribution for the cross moves in HTM to compare with those in STM but I can´t find it. I´m quite sure I have seen it here. Rune ----- Original Message ----- From: mike_go_uk To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:30 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: help --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > I´m looking out for some #message at speedsolvingrubikscube and > therefore write that number in the square to the left. After "GO" I > (always) get the error message "Python...". Does that happen only to me? I also get a python error. Mike SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3989. Re: Gone for a while
From: "Chris Parlette" <cparlett@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 15:29:55 -0000

Have fun! -Chris Parlette --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Hey all, > > If anyone cares, I will be gone for the next 3 weeks. My wife Christy > and I are taking our belated honeymoon to Greece.. I very long > overdue vacation in my eyes... Plus a little business to tend to in > Athens... > > Take care everyone, > > Frank >
3990. Re: Gone for a while
From: "Stefan Pochmann" <pochmann@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 17:17:14 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Frank" <ephem825@...> wrote: > > Hey all, > > If anyone cares, I will be gone for the next 3 weeks. My wife Christy > and I are taking our belated honeymoon to Greece.. I very long > overdue vacation in my eyes... Plus a little business to tend to in > Athens... > > Take care everyone, > > Frank Hey Frank, will you please bring 6x6 cubes for all of us? :-) Cheers! Stefan
3991. Re: help
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 19:26:41 -0000

Same here. Just go to the address bar to where it says .../message/28708 and change that to the number you want Tim --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I´m looking out for some #message at speedsolvingrubikscube and > therefore write that number in the square to the left. After "GO" I > (always) get the error message "Python...". Does that happen only to me? > R >
3992. Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: help
From: Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: <speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:58:04 +0200

I believe you, but where do I find the address bar saying...? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Reynolds To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: help Same here. Just go to the address bar to where it says .../message/28708 and change that to the number you want Tim SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3993. [Speed cubing group] Re: help
From: "Tim Reynolds" <timothy.reynolds2@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 20:58:27 -0000

On Internet Explorer it's up here: http://tinyurl.com/npzbd I'm sorry if it was unclear, but by "..." I was just omitting the long http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/speedsolvingrubikscube that's in every URL in this group. --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > > I believe you, but where do I find the address bar saying...? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Reynolds > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:26 PM > Subject: [Speed cubing group] Re: help > > > Same here. Just go to the address bar to where it > says .../message/28708 and change that to the number you want > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle > Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a.. Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
3994. US National Information
From: Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, caltechrubiks@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 14:00:01 -0700

http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tmao/USNational2006/ -Tyson
3995. sub-2 minutes at last
From: "cubewizzard" <cubewizzard@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 21:18:40 -0000

minutes ago, I solved a 4x4 in less then two minutes. It took me a lot of efforts to get this sub-2 minutes. Of course I didn't have a parity wich makes it possible to have a good. Still I'm proud tough. Just had to say this.
3996. Re: sub-2 minutes at last
From: cmhardw <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 04:27:06 -0000

Congrats on your sub-2 minute solve! It's all downhill from this point (and in that getting smaller/faster times good way I mean!) Keep up the good work, and happy cubing! Chris --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@...m, "cubewizzard" <cubewizzard@...> wrote: > > minutes ago, I solved a 4x4 in less then two minutes. It took me a > lot of efforts to get this sub-2 minutes. Of course I didn't have a > parity wich makes it possible to have a good. Still I'm proud tough. > > Just had to say this. >
3997. Re: [Speed cubing group] sub-2 minutes at last
From: David Pritts <ladartfrog@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:31:01 -0700 (PDT)

congrats.. i dont think i've ever solved it in less than 5 minutes, although i only know 3 algorithms, and i have no real system. plus i've probably only solved it a dozen times total.. lol. that's mainly b/c i didn't take the time to actually memorize the 3 algorithms until recently, so most of the time i was unable to actually solve the cube. how long did it take you to get from around 5 minutes to 2 minutes? (i dont care beyond that, because i never plan on being one of the best cubists on the 4x4 or any cube... but it would be nice to get down to around 2 minutes) david cubewizzard <cubewizzard@...> wrote: minutes ago, I solved a 4x4 in less then two minutes. It took me a lot of efforts to get this sub-2 minutes. Of course I didn't have a parity wich makes it possible to have a good. Still I'm proud tough. Just had to say this. SPONSORED LINKS Jigsaw puzzle game Free puzzle inlay games Educational game and puzzle Word puzzle game Kid puzzle game Puzzle games --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "speedsolvingrubikscube" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: speedsolvingrubikscube-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
3998. Re: help (cross htm)
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 07:37:35 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström <rune.wesstrom@...> wrote: > Btw, I´m looking for the distribution for the cross moves in HTM to compare with those in STM but I can´t find it. I´m quite sure I have seen it here. You can find it on Dan Harris's page http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/cross/cross.php Mike
3999. Re: help (cross htm)
From: "uweren2000" <rune.wesstrom@...>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 07:46:59 -0000

--- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, mike_go_uk <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Rune Wesström > <rune.wesstrom@> wrote: > > Btw, I´m looking for the distribution for the cross moves in HTM to > compare with those in STM but I can´t find it. I´m quite sure I have > seen it here. > > You can find it on Dan Harris's page > > http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubestation/cross/cross.php > > Mike > Thank you! It must be There I have seen it. Rune
4000. Re: help (unoriented cross)
From: mike_go_uk <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 10:41:46 -0000

Hi Rune For comparison (and because I don't orient the cross myself), I also found the distributions for the case of an unoriented cross (4 solved positions): SHTM, unoriented 0: 4 1: 72 2: 812 3: 7144 4: 43040 5: 111500 6: 27492 7: 16 Average: 4.83 HTM, unoriented 0: 4 1: 48 2: 440 3: 3576 4: 21492 5: 74660 6: 81780 7: 8064 8: 16 Average: 5.36 Mike